STOP Doing This RIGHT NOW - It Kills GPUs
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- STOP Doing This RIGHT NOW - It Kills GPUs
With GPUs like the RTX 3080 and RTX 3090 drawing a crazy amount of power many people are reporting issues, and some of these issues may have to do with the power supply and cables being used to power these new GPUs.
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That Arnold intro was pretty good 🤣
People who buy budget parts do stuff like this you know people who use Highend Parts know it pays to do it right that's the bottom line no way around it.
This should be geared towards budget builders cutting corners this is not for people who's been in the game buying top of the line there's a mental state with all of this there's levels like they say.....
The biggest mistake PC gamers make is using a controller to play FPS games
@@GooberBrainTrollingCorp bruh
Interesting, do I need second cable for 5700 xt reference card?
Haha that intro was a good arnold impression!
Lol that wasssssz theeeee bessssszzt
@@tractordaniel It would of been great if the whole video was done in that voice :)
@@Roguey omg yeah lol
i think the power they drown is irrelevant if u can't even afford a 30 series card at all
It's still a good thing to know if you can eventually afford a GPU in a decade or so.
yeah because if u don't have a 30 series card might as well blow up whatever wannabe powerful card u have now
save power wherever you can, man
@@ASchnacky It's over 2.1 k $ for 3080Ti in my country...
This could be a huge issue next generation if the reports of leaked TDPs are correct, with Nvidia possibly releasing a 500W card. You'd need four 8-pin power connectors, none of which can have pigtails, which means you'd need a PSU with 4 PCIe power outputs on it. My 850W PSU has 4, one of which is used for the SATA power to the storage drives, so that could get interesting. Might need a 1000W PSU for the next gen high end cards. yikes!
My system used to shutdown after an hour of playing Cyberpunk with the 3090, had to get a bigger power supply and three separate 8 pin power cords for it to run.
That's exactly why I didn't get a 30 series card...my 6900xt is more than capable for the coming years and isn't ridiculously power hungry.
Yep, three power cords is what you need, although it can be argued as being worth it if you run things at 4k, inc. re village, red dead 2 and cyberpunk and doom eternal to name a few...oh and baldurs gate 3..and you're making it sound that the 6900xt draws a fraction of the power of the 3090 it's 350 Vs 300...
what power supply did you have?
At launching planet coaster my 3080 system shuts down before the game opens. Was using an evga 750w bronze psu with 2 seperate VGA cables. I've since replaced my psu for a nzxt c850 gold with 2 seperate 8 pin connectors but the game still shuts the system down..
@@nickgarcia1292 I had a 850 watts gold power supply with 2 power cables before. Think it was a cooler master. One cable was a pig tail for my third socket on the 3090. Haven't had any problems since getting a EVGA 1,000watts gold with 3 separate power cords. Makes a big difference.
All the PCIe cables that came with my 750w Seasonic are dual-connector, and their own instructions suggest not to use both connectors. Why do they include these cables if we're not really able to use them? Now I just have extra connectors floating around in the case.
This has been known since launch. I want to say that the instructions (at least for my 3080 card), also tell you use separate 8-pin cables from the PSU to power the GPU.
Well Nvidia is doing a shitty job not telling people about it openly. I knew as soon as I heard 3080s and 90s failing that was probably the issue. Later I heard the 3080 and 90 for brief spikes can hit as high as 600W which on some PSUs could trip the hardware protection for that line and cause an automatic reboot. At least that's what you'd hope it'd do but not always fast enough.
@@Skylancer727 I don’t know what else NVIDIA could do the instructions are provided in the installation manual that comes with the GPU.
@@ownage11445 put it straight as a warning as soon as you open the box, writing it in big text on the front of the box, put a sticker on the power connectors, etc. And remember, if they tell their AIBs to do it, they will. They do want to get good stock of Nvidia's next GPUs.
@@Skylancer727 at this point a 1600watt power supply makes sense for next generation 😳
Fake news. This only applies of you're using a cheap as$ psu. Two daisy chain cables to power up three pcie slots on the gpu is 100% okay
Learned this one the hard way when I got my 3070. No display. Luckily after swapping out PSUs where one with 2 cables it thankfully worked out fine
I got a red LED on my XFX RX6700XT when I first tried to run it off a pigtail so I dug though my parts bin and found the second cable that came with my Corsair PSU and hooked it up which solved the issue. Never throw that bag of extra shit they give you with your PSU away.
I used the pigtail cables on a nzxt c850 for a card pulling 280Watts without issues for multple hours.
Only GPUs that have a TDP over 275W would potentially be affected by the pigtail cables, so I doubt that was the problem with your 3070. Probably just a bad cable.
That's just a poorly made (crimped) and/or installed cable
@@dremy746 Maybe, but it served my 1070 fine for multiple years.
I'm using a pigtail cable, so I undervolted my 3080 and lost maybe 1-2FPS(depending on the game), but saved over 100w and maintained 10c better temps. I'm not certain how detrimental the pigtail really is with this card at full load, but playing it safe anyway.
that's what I'm planning on doing when I get my 3080 Ti XC3 and use 2 cables
Same here. Undervolting is so worth it with these cards.
I overclocked my 3080 by 150mhz and I'm only running my GPU fans at 65% constant and getting a max temp of 63c under full sustained system load for 2+ hours. If I back off the OC and set a fan curve, I never go above 60c. Now my question is, what are you guys doing to hit high temps? Maybe it's your airflow that sucks
@@xblur17 it's a matter of what you prioritize. I use a mid tower with lots of airflow. Some just want a quieter and more power efficient system. For me , the sweet spot is an undervolt to 0.85v (pinned at 1875 clock freq) . My temps are in the early 60s at max , mostly in the 50s with the fans spinning significantly less (quieter) . All while saving 70-90w of power for virtually the same performance as stock . With Ampere , the gains from overclocking tend to be rather insignificant and come at a huge cost in terms of energy efficiency. Some don't mind that , I find it hard to justify.
@@xblur17 I’m over clocked by 150 core 1000 mem and can run at 70% power. 55C.
Why burn power and heat for no reason?
This was actually a big concern when I built my first pc. I have my 3080 strix with 2 regular 8 pins and one pig-tailed 8 pin, I´m guessing that's fine. I had trouble finding regular 8 pins to buy separately
did it work ? i think my psu has the same cables :(
@@bogdii1337 I was being overdramatic. It's fine as long as you don't push the power too much.
I didn't know at the time also that the pcie 16x slot provided 75 watts of power. So it should be around 150 per 8 pin pcie connector plus some 75 watts from the slot. In the end it would be 150 + 150 + 75 = 375watts. It's fine bro
appreciate the reply. tomorrow ill pick the asus rog strix 3080 and i was concerned. but i got a coolmaster gold 750w with 4x8 pins pcie so it should rock fine @@sebastianirala7714
The pigtail cable only becomes an issue if your card is trying to draw over 275 watts, so it would affect the 3080, 3080ti, and 3090, but not the other 30 series RTX cards. Too high a power draw could cause the cable to melt, which could theoretically start a fire. I don't see how this would cause the GPU itself to be damaged (outside of a fire). The GPU is rated to draw that level of power, it's the cable that isn't. Those pigtail cables are usually only rated for about 200 watts (+75 watts from the PCIe on the motherboard). Previous generations of graphics cards didn't really get above 300 watts until the 30 series, so it wasn't really an issue until now.
I always use two cables when there's two sockets. Did that with GTX 1080 TI Aorus, doing it of course with the RTX 3080 Gigabyte.
There's a reason there are two sockets. 🐖 tailing will work with low-end cards.
Starting at the beginning here: one single 8pin atx cable/connector is officially rated for 150 watts. It has a safety margin of 100% so it can be loaded up to 300 watts (AMD did this in the past with their Radeon R9 295x2: 2x 8pin with a total power draw of 560 watts) and it still works flawless.
The "pig tail" is only intended as an extention or when the card it should be plugged in is flipped, thats why the pig tail usually is flipped horizontal compared to the regular pin.
Now drawing too much power through one cable means, that "over current protection" or "over voltage protection" from your power supply jumps in and hits the kill-switch, turning your pc off. If it doesn't, your power supply sucks.
The gpu is not rated to any power consumption, thus you have variying numbers when comparing the same gpu model by different vendors like ASUS or MSI. The GPU designers (AMD, Nvidia, Intel) usually give you an estimated value, like "typical load" or "average load in scenario xyz" which is usually given as TBP or TDP - Total Board Power or Thermal Design Power - or similar.
Also: previous generations DID get over 300 watts, as i mentioned before. Pascal and Turing could also reach 300+ watts, especially when overclocked.
And last but not least: 75 watts for the PCIe slot is wrong. PCI-SIG specified the max current that an extension card may draw from the slot as 5.5 amps. Multiplied with 12 volts, that is 66 watts.
75 watts is only with safety margin in mind, given again that your power supply sucks and is overvolting your 12V rail up to 13.6 volts.
If you want sources for any of the facts i stated here, feel free to ask, but mind your manners 😘
@@novocainDaimon hey daimon it seems like you have good knowledge regarding this topic. I have a 3090 Ti FE which draws max at about 450watt. I have 2 PCIe cables with each 2x6+2 PINs. As it seems the cables are 18 gauge cables. Do you thhink 2 cables are enough or should I better get 3? Thanks in advance
@@outdatedTV I've used a EVGA 1080ti SC2 for 5 years, no issues ever. Still works but i upgraded to a 6800xt, and this time i did use 2 cables just in case, that thing is a monster.
@@Fucklesticks While it worked ok with 1080 Ti, I also had that card and used 2 separate cables. Because it's even better. When I have the option to improve I just do it. Currently my 3080 draws 360W. I would call separate cables best practice. If you have the cables, a modular PSU then there are no reasons not to do it :)
I'd need a new PSU if I went with a RTX 3080... But I did have questions about what cables to use. Thanks for this.
Buh! I think you saved me some money. I thought I was in the clear using 1 cable because it's a 5700 XT but after watching this I decided to check the manufacture recommendations and noticed they recommended 2 cables. I immediately dug up the box for the cable and fixed it. It's a good thing I've been underclocking all this time...
A good rule is if it has multiple power inputs, you should use a separate cable for each, if the PSU has multiple rails, use the different rails.
So I do think that what Graphically Challenged is recommended is definitely best practice, but I have yet to see any confirmed instances of physical damage on components.
My personal pet peeve is that the cables aren't reversible, so the pig tail will always be on the care end, dangling around uselessly :P
Can we request for you to do more Arnold Impressions?
Also buy a power supply with at least 20% higher power rating than the entire power draw of your build. Under rated and maxed out psu can cause damage to your system as well especially when it gets older and starts degrading a bit.
No
The 8 pin connector is rated at 150w not the cable. The cable can Cary more. The regulators will not allow you to sell a power supply that has more 8 pin connectors connected to a single cable that will allow any load (within rated spec) would exceed the cable limit as a whole. So this is why you can only have 2 connectors on the cable instead or 3 or more. Because the cable can only safely (with a bit of margin defined by the specifications provided by the regulators) carry 300w. Not 150w. Soo 300w for the daisy chained and another 150w for the 3rd 8pin and 75w for the pcie.. thats 525w capable on a 3090 with 3 8pins. Please don't spread misinformation if you do not understand what you are talking about
Half the people saying this and others like the video - still confused haha Using my 3090 with one PCIe cable & the Pig tail - Working fine so far, no issues with performance etc. but concerned with all these news. I have a Corsair 1000 psu
I can confirm that cables matter. I mostly make Deepfakes on my Threadripper/3090 FTW3 workstation. When I first started doing Deepfakes, I had a lot of system hard resets which I couldn't account for.. Eventually I found that my custom cable extensions were the culprit. They couldn't handle the huge spikes in power (as you mentioned, the card was getting into the 470w range at times), and the system would power down quickly and reboot.
You're talking about load balancing in this video btw. The AMD Vega 64 cards used to have a lot of power issues because people wouldn't properly connect them with a dedicated 8-pin line, rather using the "pigtail" as you mentioned, which really doesn't deliver enough amperage/wattage to the card.
A single, dedicated cable per 8 pin connection on the GPU is best practice.
If you're using two separate PigTails which of the 8 pins (6+2) is best to use? The first one down the cable or the one on the end?
Anybody else see the cat freak out when he opened the 3090 box?
😹😹😹
I've never liked the thought of daisy-chaining the GPU cables like that, so I bought separate cables early to avoid the trouble
With RTX 5090, you will need a separate PSU for each connection.
Another thing to look for is if your system has PCIe cable extensions, it's much less noticeable if both extensions are plugged into a single PCIe dual plug cable from the PSU because it is tucked away, I found this was the case in my pc, once I noticed both extensions went back to a single PSU cable, I immediately added the second one. These upper tier current gen GPUs really need to be powered this way
When I got my 3080ti I got a new PSU (1000w Seasonic) and use 3 separate 8 pin connectors from the PSU to the GPU (I use the cable mod pro cables, no extensions)
Salat is better
Just scored a 3080 on newegg shuffle and ordered a 850watt power supply. 2080 already has the daisy chained 2x8 connectors. Almost was gona reuse the cable until I saw this. Thnx!
I got lucky with the Newegg shuffle too. 3080 and gaming monitor bundle. Took me months but finally got selected lol. 🔥
Always posting amazing content
Thanks for watching!
Agree
Yep, I won a 3080 Extreme (3x 8-pins) with Newegg Shuffle and my existing 700w PSU wouldn't even boot with the draw. 850W and no pigtails used did the trick.
What you guys have to do is make sure the PSU has +12V multi rail voltage input to your GPU.
Like with my Antec HCP 1300, when I used to run SLI, I fed power to both graphics from seperate rails. This ensures clean power by keeping the current draw to optimal levels during higher loads.
I learned my lesson on the pigtail a while back it can definitely damage your card. Even if it takes a while at these prices you don’t want to risk it.
im watching this while using my 3070 being powered by piggie tail cables while rendering a blender animation. woops!!
A Terminator protecting the computer technology ? What could go wrong ? !!!
Hey, i have a 2 pcie psu but a 3x8pin connector on the gpu. I currently have one 2 different cables and one of the using the split. Shoudl i be good?
What about the regular 3070 or 3060ti?
Yeah, I cringe every time I see someone daisy chain their gpu power cable
My computer halts when my refridgerator compressor needs a powerboost.... Sometimes with some people its even a compressor for water, after they flush the toilet lol
Wish I saw this sooner. My rtx 3080 doesn't work anymore. The cables melted inside and I replaced the socket with a new one, but the GPU only lasts a few seconds before disconnecting. Very annoying. £1,000 for a GPU that only lasted me 6 months.
I’ve been doing this and fixed it yesterday right before you dropped this video lol. Out of all of the pc building bids I watched last year, no one specifically mentioned this.
Read the installation manual first instead depending on content creators to show you.
Hopefully system builders see this. Last thing a consumer wants is to buy a prebuilt, or get a PC custom built by someone else and for this not to be taken into account for high end 30 series graphics cards.
Good point! Few talk about this! In general, if you run anything that draws 225W or more you should use 2 cables unless cables/output is specified to handle more. Most 3060ti, some 3070 and 6700XTs and downwards should be fine. 6800, 6800XT, 6900XT, 3070ti, 3080/ti and most 3090, use 2 cables, some 3090 like Suprim X uses up to 450W during load and should have 3 cables.
You can use up to four dedicated cables If your motherboard has a dedicated 6 pin for the x16 slot.
My motherboard (Asrock Taichi X399) has one of these. Do I need to use it if I have a single RTX 3090 installed with 3 dedicated PCI-E cables already attached to it?
@@bgtubber No. But it might help in case one of the other three cables looses connection, or when your power supply is sensitive to voltage spikes.
@@DC9V Got it. Thanks!
Not having a power guard. I damaged 2 motherboards when power surges happened in my neighbourhood.
I have a Corsair RM 1000i and a 1080 ti currently, 6800 xt on the way. I've been using the included Corsair pigtail for over 5 years now, no issues with power limits. The Corsair pigtails are 16 AWG to where the first connector is, so should be fine for handling the full load of 300W. The 1080 ti has 2x 8 pin connectors, so I could get away with one pigtail cable but the 6800 xt has 3 connectors. The plan is to use 2 pigtail cables spread across the 3 connections on the card, run some benchmarks and stability tests and see if I run into power limits. The 6800 xt has a TDP of 300W vs the 1080 ti at 250W. In theory, 2 rails back to the PSU for the 6800 xt should be plenty. Corsair doesn't include any warnings in their documentation about high end GPU's and their pigtails, and ASRock doesn't include anything in the manual saying not to use pigtails. If this is really a problem, they should say something. Anyway, I'm going to try it with the 2 cables back to the PSU and if that works out and is stable I'll go with it, otherwise it's 3 cables I guess. The cables also do not get warm at all with extended use on my 1080 ti.
Also, the logic of "cards just draw more power now" is not exactly true. The R9 295x2 had two GPU's onboard, 2x 8 pin connectors and had a TDP of 550W. Power usage ebbs and flows with die shrink and footprint expansion.
If you have 3 8 pin inputs on the card and that card's TDP is well below 150 + 150 + 75 = 375W you are safe to use 2 cables with one pigtail connector. These days if a card draws over 375 you usually have one 12 pin connector that has to come out of 3-4 rails on your PSU. Most PSU's still don't ship with 3 separate 8 pin to 8 pin PCIE connectors.
I have an MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 3080 Ti. It has 3 PCI power connectors and I use two cables, one of them being connected to two of the slots with pig tails. Is this going to be a problem for me? The Corsair RM 850x PSU appears to only have two eight pin PCI connector slots, but I am wondering if using one of the other slots for a third cable will work. I notice in MSI Afterburner that my power and voltage limiters come on a lot.
Thanks for the advice. My 6800XT under full load draws ~230 Watts so I am pushing that limit a bit.
Only 230W? Are you sure? That's pretty efficient for the 6800xt.
@@Krenisphia I can vouch for that. Mine only draws up to 240-250 and can get lower with a decent undervolt. I run it with a 2600mhz overclock as well.
@@kimjongpoontv69 Very nice.
When companies advertise their TDP's, it's usually always lower than it actually is so that's a pleasant surprise.
No GPU over 200w should be pig tailed.
its been that way since 2015 ish,
when GPUs got more power hungry.
If ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY, could you use 2 cables, one without using daisy chain, and one using a daisy chain and its second connection, on a card that has 3x8 pin connections?
"Put that cookie down!!"
Sperate cables should be used for each connector. And NEVER use cables from one power supply on another! Not even the same brand PSU. Unless you are 100% certain of the pin layout.
What this means is 'pigtail' cables are effectively useless because they only work correctly on GPUs that unnecessarily have two 8-pin ports.
Do u think 3060ti will work with 1 pigtail cable?
@@bamboo9666 If it's a single 8-pin, which most 3060 ti's are, then yes. If it requires two 8-pins (or 8+6) then I don't think just one will work. Same for the 3070. But a 3070 ti will eventually overload any single cable.
1x8pin pcie cable = 150w. common sense to use 2 seperate cables...... or 3 in the case of 3090s
@Marlboro Girl if you could ask in a polite way, maybe....
I can only use two cables cos I have a FE 3090 and it's custom pin thingy
@@ZynoArtz I'm totally confused now, so the cable the 3090fr came with is not the one to use??
@@champer423 No the adapter that comes with the 3090/3080 Founders Edition is the correct thing to use. I was just pointing out that the cable only had 2x8 pin female connectors compared to other AIB's that have 3x8pin connectors.
@@ZynoArtz as long you use 2 seperate pcie powercables and dont overclock it without undervolting, everything will be fine. Shortterm 200w per cable wont burn them.
The 3 connectors i mentioned are on AIB cards, which are designed to be/getting overclocked/overpowered.
each 8 pin cable is rated for 250W, not 150.
so on a Y cable, you can have 125W on each connector.
this is old news as it is simply the official standards for the cables, and we had 300W and 350W tdp cards before. some even soldered their cards for unlocked power and went for extreme overclocks.
Cat got scared from him opening the box at 1:00 😂
100% agree with you! Dont use these spliy cables, use seperate cable for each connector!!!
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The people who built the cards didn't put multiple connectors on just to use the same cable anyway. Even if it works "in theory" it creates safety and longevity issues with odd power spikes and the like.
1:00 that cat has clearly never seen a real rtx 3090 before
I have no hard drives. No disc drives. No removable media outside of USB. Even SATA is temporary. A single NVME SSD for permanent storage, a single CPU fan originally intended for my FX and a RX 580 powered off of the PCI-E bus and a single 8+6 pin connection from my antiquated 750W power box from 2009. This X570 system is too smart to catch stupid. If the RX 580 blows, it blows. GG no RE.
there was no warning at all on the box
I just ordered an RTX 3090 Founder's edition GPU from Ebay, so you may have just saved my @$$ with this video! You just earned a new subscriber. Thank you! :)
I used to run an R9 295 X2 and an R9 290x in trifire. I had a 1200 watt power supply but had to switch it out for a 1600 w. They used to love me at the electric company when I pushed that power button. I used a separate cable for each one of my power connectors on the cards. Definitely having a fully modular power supply with plenty of VGA ports is a must
3:40 with the pigtail it provides 325watts, your info is wrong, been running 6700xt tuf which is 250watts for years now and no problems.
Cant believe ive never heard about this. Thankyou for the info
Tech Yes City covered this subject a couple of weeks ago.
imagine releasing gpus with ELETRIC issues, well done nvidia
The ‘pigtail’ was originally introduced as a money saving exercise by psu manufacturers. However as you said in the video, gpu’s are way more power hungry now and that definitely leads to that ‘pigtail’ cable pulling way more than it’s rated for. PSU manufacturers should end this shoddy practice and maybe they might if enough PSU’s get RMA’d.
I hope this will help others , Zotac 3070 OC 8 Gb finally killed my pigtail after 1 year of use , the psu was shit anyway ( +80bronz) with only 600 W . To be true first time i used this confic heated the pigtail cable alot but i end up just playing World of tanks at low settings because is more competitive that way , many objects in that game ruins the aim ...now when i got the black screen and on a restart 5 beeps i only had a chrome page opened . After switching parts with another pc i saw that the problem was just the cable . PSU can open the pc with an gigabite1050 ti oc as that gpu do not need a separate power cable . I used a pigtail even if i know it was bad but my psu only had a cable . IF yours have 2 USE THEM !!
Other tech channels also addressed the pig tail issue without much detail into the why(s)... being at the 220 limit makes me seriously want to shut down and do the extra cable work
It's a 5 minute job. Well worth it
Thanks for this , Connor! You're right , I don't think this gets as much attention. I had my 3080 set up the wrong way! It's undervolted (0.85 @ 1875) and hasn't given me issues at all but I've changed it as a precaution.
In terms of performance , I haven't noticed anything too different . Though I think my minimum lows in a few titles have improved as a consequence of the shift to two cables. I notice smoother frame graphs in benchmarks e.g. Far Cry 5. No difference in synthetics like 3d mark.
Same here I was actually using my pigtailed for a while with no issues…until now haha lucky for me nothing serious happened I just suddenly got BSODs after updating my BIOS and went on a research binge, My 1% lows in Cyberpunk also improved quite abit
Also very important, if your GPU comes with a power cable NEVER use that cable on your PSU as cables must be rated for each PSU and not GPU. Usually when buying new GPU it doesnt come with any power cables for this reason but used ones may, throw that cable away.
And here I am sitting with my R9 295x2 pulling 600w back in 2014. Melted my first psu 😣😞
LOL. Arnold Schwarzenegger doing tech reviews and news!!!
What part of the GPU usually blows up, and is easily fixed?
Can someone make a loop of him just spinning around
Corsair SF750. Are the cables high quality? I need answers. I don't get why pigtail cables are still being made in 2021. Thanks btw
I think its not just the cheap cables here, there are issues when your psu has dual 12v rails, each rail can only supply a certain amount of current and the rails will supply separate gpu 8 pin connectors, probably allows manufacturers to use cheaper components but still put 750 watts or what ever on the side of the box as they will add the ratings together. Using only one connector in this case effectively halfs the 12v current the psu can supply, and dont forget that number on the side of the psu is everything added up 5v, 3.3v etc. Most decent psu's advertise single rails these days but check your psu individual voltage specs if not sure, usually printed on the side. Pig tails were introduced for using cards with dual 8 pins or 8 + 6 pins in SLI, now that's not really a thing they should be removed.
Lol I just finished building my pc last week and when he mentioned the thing about xmp, I immediately looked up a video and now my ram is performing as advertised. Thank you!!!
You forgot to enable XMP II?
@@sparhawk1228 ya
well they did not mention that in the gpu box could have done with this before i used it for 2 years.
can you use two separate 8 pin cables into a 12vhpwr adapter?
Im running rx 6800xt on a rm850e using pigtail,my display often shuts down,but the aio,RAMs,and gpu are still on,showing the LED,but nothing is shown on display,but its not turning off
Going from a build using a 1070 SC (1x 8 pin) to a 7800 XT (2x 8 pin) and wasn’t sure if using two cables (since my pigtails are 6+2 and 6) would be safe for the card. Thank you! Once I get a mobo I’ll have a power supply picked out that’s much better suited.
The correct name is 'Y cable' Theoretically: A thin(er) cable won't 'blow up your GPU' it's kinda impossible as it will limit the power as a resistor, Yes: (Don't use the 'pig-tail end') dont even use a Y cable if you can avoid it. BUT: The cable 'rating' is more likely to pertain to the PSU and not the cable. TO TELL IF YOUR CABLE IS UNDERRRATED: See if it's getting hot/warm under load(THE CABLE) The issue with modern higher power draw GFX cards dying, has more to do with PSU's that give peak-rating instead of idle rating and general poor engineering on the PSU side (Switchmode PSU's can vary A LOT in dodgyness and send spikes at higher-loads) But mainly: These GPU's in order to try and sell you new specs are pushing the limits of modern mosfets and other things. Also the weight of the heatsinks and many other things are a factor.
Watching this on an 11 year old laptop that I upgraded the ram and swapped the hdd to an ssd to.
I did it with 3060ti that go to 250w and i overclocked it, so i cabged to two cables from one with pigitale and the temprature was down in 4-5°
is there anything to clean it with???
I bought a new power supply precisely for this reason - to have enough holes for cables for my 3080. And btw the cost of the PSU is peanuts compared to the 3080...
I remember when I got a 1200W PSU I was getting slammed about "Hurr Durr Ur WasTINg MoNeYz!!". Now you have Gfx cards spiking to 500w at times lol
just wait for 4090 lmao, will be even higher, you made a good choice with that psu! future proof. cheap skates pay twice
Yeah never listened to those simpletons...everyone knows power is power
This is in the instructions of most 3080 and 3090 cards. Mine says use separate cables and no splitters etc
I tried telling so many people this and no one believes me because of what other youtubers said.
Okay this makes sense as to why my 3080ti stopped working when I haven’t gamed in over a year and only use it for chrome. I sent it in last week to evga because it was under warranty. I wonder if bedside I did this that it will void the warranty
Definitely a problem with the 6800XT. My brother recently upgraded to one and not thinking (my fault) just swapped out his old gpu and uses the 6+2 & 6+2 pigtail end of the PCI-E power cable. Was fine in Windows but as soon as a game got fired up PC would crash and shut down. Hes got a good corsair cx750m so we were going through drivers, bios, undervolting.. Then it dawned on me.. the cable. Did a 150mv unndervolt and some lighter loads would crash less but as soon as the GPU hit about 75% load, crash. Wasted hours testing the software when it was just lack of power. Lucky we didn't fry something.
I had a pigtail cable in for 2 of the three 8-pin ports for a very short time on my 3090. I have no idea how I missed it, but I did end up finding a third PCI-E cable when I was looking for another SATA power cable, so got that sucker routed in there because of a completely different issue. For some reason, I just didn't see it during the install, despite having my PSU's cable bag right there.
i am watching this at 1.5x speed and it still looks like he is handling gpu very cautiously.. damn.
so I had a Vega 56 for about 5 years up until now. One cable pig tails connected entire time. It would crash once in a while, I could tell it was most likely the GPU. However it would run mostly fine if I didnt run it at 100% or too quickly (warm up?). Would the issue in this video be why my GPU had instability?
Rocking a 7900xt now, it wasn't performing up to benchmarks on MW2 for example, 200+ frames online, I would get 100-140. No one had an answer, but I saw a reddit post discussing this very thing and it fixed my performance. Love it.
The issue is the 3090/3080Ti both feature a spitter at the end, you connect two cables instead of one but doesn't it just turn into one when connecting to the gpu anyway?
Where does it say one pig-tail cable is rated for only 150W?
Do you need 2 cables for a 6700xt?
I think the biggest mistake pc gamers make is purchasing overpriced components
I scored a 3080ti at MSRP. I didn't want it but I have no choice but to take what I can get.
That impression scared me good, because it was Arnold...but it was Arnold, my brain hurts
Pigtails are just awesome for those people running undervolted GPU mining rigs...
Do Capture Cards capture the graphics from your computer internally through the pcie slot or do you have to use another computer to plug it into to record your computer? Or do you just put the video in from your graphics card and out to your monitor?