Testing 3rd Party Docks / Adapters after Switch 5.0.0 Firmware Update
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 มิ.ย. 2024
- Hi, this video aims to show if 3rd party equipment like portable docks will 'brick' your Nintendo Switch after the 5.0.0 update. There have been many reports of people 'bricking' their Nintendo Switch by using 3rd party docks.
In this video I test out power banks, controller adapters & converters and finally two 3rd party docks.
The timestamps are below -
3:03 - Power Banks.
4:34 - Controller Adapters / Converters
8:09 - Third Party Portable Docks.
Remember that your equipment & electricity supply may differ from the equipment shown in the video so your results may vary. Use 3rd party equipment at your own risk as Nintendo will only provide support for licensed products.
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If Nintendo wanted to eliminate third-party docks they should just charge $40 like all the knock-offs do. The only reason why knockoffs are made is because Nintendo sells theirs for $80.
thats not true, I bought a third party dock because its portable, the switch dock is not.
ReedSolomon
The 1st party dock is fairly portable. Many of the 3rd pary docks are of a similar size to the original. The main difference being quality and price.
They should just make a dock that doesn't absolutely suck. The price isn't relevant.
Or why not charge fucking rediculous amounts ;D like a bunch of wankers, for an item that is worth 20$, then make every other switch dock ruin your system so they can control the market :P? Good Job nintendo, Good Job. All for a fucking useless update which added jack fuck all for the community, and did nothing other than cover their ass from hackers yet was given the title 5.0. Now I'm stuck with an overpriced shitty piece of plastic, which isn't portable and scratches your 300$ tablet.
Do the switch dock mod
AWESOME video, Vince! Thank you so much for the info on the update, pretty thorough imo. Happy st Patrick's day to you, too. 👍
Thanks, hope you have a good one. In my mind I thought it would be a 10 minute vid but when I finished filming I had over 40mins to cut down hence all the fast forwarding :-)
I love extended videos like this! Thanks My Mate Vince
Really appreciate all the stuff you try out in these vids
"If it brakes I'll make money from you so is ok" 😂😂😂
Lmao
Hello
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Kinda true though
I love how real he is lmfao had me rolling!
Dang, about time there are vids of this topic. Thank you for the vid, interesting proofs and references we can refer too
I just love that you sacrifice your things for us
True Moon Well, he makes back the money or even moreso
So it is really a sacrifice?
Miya there is no Cloud save on the switch yet so any data on the switch you had will be lost if if your switch is broken and it's beyond repair
J wasn’t before 😛
The same😥
you always come in with the clutch, this is why i subbed lmao
I thought with the bricked systems it was happening whilst it was docked and updated automatically .
Nice to see that your testing possibilitys.
It really helps out a lot that you provide these infos asap. Thanks for doing so!
3:03-power banks
4:34:-controller adapters
8:09 -3rd party docks
For mobile users😊
He says it in at the start of the video...
Thx bro helps a up
Hey Vince I love your channel even as "rough" as the videos are. You always give good info and helps a lot of people.
My Mate Vince...
Youse A Brave Man...Good Luck, Steady On...
Switches have been bricked when using third party docks since way before the 5.0.0 update. There are fairly regular reports of this happening on the Switch subreddit.
However, here's Spawn Wave with his recently damaged Switch (which happened after the 5.0.0 update):
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It also highlights the fact that Switch owners NEED to be able to backup their save games - either to a micro SD card or to the Cloud. Come on Nintendo, get with the program!
Yup :) he said it just might be a coincidence right in the beginning of the video mentioned already cases of bricking
Spawn Wave did take apart his switch which voided his warranty with Nintendo and tried his hardest to overheat and brick it for some reason.
It bricked my Switch after the update. Yes they bricked before but the update made it happen to a lot more people
You're not wrong. But it seems like the 5.0 update made it a lot more likely cause a huge number of people have had it happen in the past few days
M Jons I
"I'll just make the money back off the views of this video."
I have never heard a TH-camr more sure of ad-revenue than this.
Thanks for this Vince! I've got the Sfans dock, but I've been reluctant to use it since the update. At least I know now that it should be okay.
Thanks so much for the reply! I hadn't even thought that the change in design could mean a difference between bricking and non-bricking the Switch.
I suppose I could always get another official dock and DIY with the parts in that to get the Sfans dock to work properly. I'm pretty sure the insides are identical. I just really don't like the traditional dock design.
I love this guy he does the most insanely awesome things to his consoles lol.
You are such a daredevil when it comes to electronics.
What I love about your videos is that they're so genuine unlike these other youtubers that try so hard with these fancy edits and pimped out "studios". And you STILL have more subscribers than them. Good for you!
great video i don't have a switch I'm getting one next month i love ur videos
I just wanted to add that I've been using the Insignia dock from Best Buy on a regular basis and it still hasn't bricked my switch. Thanks for the test video on the other docks I don't own!
JesseEXE Is your Switch still working fine? I have the insignia dock but haven't been using it due to fear of my Switch getting bricked. Now I want to use it because it has a built in fan and would hopefully prevent the bending and cracking I've been hearing about.
Oh my god, this happened to me yesterday. 😢
Thank you for risking your Switch. God bless you.
The video that i wanted thanks
Thanks for watching :-)
D say dab
EfeKamil was a dummy
Rockyplays whattt?.?
should 3rd party ethernet adapters cause any issue?
nice video as always
The 8bitdo adapter works just fine. Also it has motion support for the dualshock 4
Mayflash also supports it
I heard a lot of people had issues with bricking when they put the switch to sleep. I was hoping you’d try that. But honestly that might be irrelevant. Thank you for doing this tho. Haven’t finished the video yet, hopefully everything works out.
Thank you so much for this. 🙏🙏
Vince the most common comment about bricking 3rd party docks comes from the console being powered off and back on while on the docks.
Interesting. I will test that now and get back to you.
Hi again, I just tested it and recorded it in case it did brick my Switch but it didn't. This is what I did.... Using FastSnail dock I displayed it on the TV and used sleep mode, it worked and came back on again when livened up. I then fully shut down the Switch while docked by holding down the power button. Again it came back on again while docked. I did exactly the same on the SFANS dock and it didn't come back on automatically after I powered down fully but all I had to do was pull out and re insert the USB-C plug and then it displayed on the TV. Maybe if you did this test 50-100 times it may cause a problem but from this little test it didn't behave any differently than before the 5.0.0 update :-)
Glad to hear mate! Thanks for risking your hardware for the community!
No problem, a big thanks for letting me know and thanks for viewing. Hopefully over the next week or so someone will work out if there really is an issue/link or not from all the reports :-)
My Mate VINCE , are you using the Nintendo branded AC adapter? I wasn't and I bricked my Switch last night using the same FastSnail adapter, the more I research I feel that might have contributed to it, but I'm not sure.
People say curiosity killed the cat
But satisfaction brung him back
Love your videos dude
AJ Star maybe people say that but you never know maybe the cat was just sleeping 😊👍
vince is awesome
Brung lol
great vid, got my sub
Thanks :-)
Great video, very helpful. Am I right in thinking that a Wavebird controller would still work please?
Oh thank god I thought Vince’s switch would completely shut off and Vince would just start freaking out I was scared that would happen
Dont worry cause he makes like 300+ from the vids
I bought the Switch dock extender cable and it works fine for me.
I have the same third party mini dock (not the Niko one) and now i am sure that i could use it.
THANKS !!
Till today, your switch still ok?
i also got a 3rd party dock, Coov SH350, but i not dare to use....
terryforever84
Sorry, but i am in vacation (and i still don't have tried the dock already).
I didn't bring with me the dock because the tv in my room is an old crt tv.
But i will try the dock when i come back home.
If you send me another message around august 5 i will answer.
Bye.
I don't get why people don't trust you, Vince. You're so genuine
Thank you :-)
I just don't trust 3rd party docks
Exactly the result nintendo was trying to generate by altering the voltage settings in 5.0.0.
Mikey C, is this what you think has happened (altering the voltage) or did you read this somewhere?
Thanks :-)
As some one that just payed 100$ to have my switch replace because i use a third party charge no i dont trust any non switch chargers
I saw DOOM in your Games library. Pretty crazy that Nintendo is allowing those ratings now. It's awesome.
Hiya buddy new to your channel awesome stuff by the way showed my kids you switch XL they loved it ha ha ....just wanted to ask the third party connector USBC to hdmi is just a generic one isn't it
Thanks mate :-) The two 3rd party docks are made by SFANs who I think copied another company and the other one was FastSnail. I presume a lot of them are generic and come out of the same factory with just a different brand name on eBay and Amazon :-)
Hiya pal having a bit of trouble with my third party switch connectors are there any setting I have to fiddle with on the switch I have had two as the first one didn't give any power through I have tried my phone and it works fine but the switch won't go into TV mode ...please help
I use the Fast Snail dock at work so I can play on the tv in between calls, had to leave it recently (yes the switch has 5.0) and came back an hour and a half later and I was still good!
Risky Vince is at it again lol.
very nice, keep testing please, test with 7.0
How do you have 137,000 subscribers and not own a single table?
XD
Subscribers doesn't mean money
Who needs a fucking table its 2018
@Crazygamer20053 THE COMMENT IS OLD YOU DUMASS
310k now
great video
You are my literal hero
Good video Vince! Although for me personally I think it's likely that what's bricking the systems is the fact that people are using third party cables, whereas you used pro controller cables for your dock and the official one for your potable docks as well. But whatever I don't care because I'm never using a portable dock. Instead I think it's billions times better to go with buying a smaller shell for your official dock and making it yourself
Great vid! What do you use to edit your videos?
Thanks Mate!
You brave brave man. And it isn't bricking the Switch that is the issue, with Nintendo being slow af with their online system, it's the save games that people are more worried about.
Educated speculation from my POV. I've worked with electronics quite a bit, but nothing as complex as a Switch. If I were to try to pinpoint any common device that would potentially brick a Switch, it wouldn't be the dock, but the 3rd party power brick that may come with it. That's not to say that docks can't cause issues, or that Nintendo power supplies can't also fail, but I am very certain that they have much tighter tolerances for quality control. A 3rd party PSU, especially over the complex USB-C just seems to have the most potential to cause problems, IMO.
Great vid
Is the any case of bricked Switch for using USB 3.1 type C to USB 3.0 adapter? I just want to use my Hori arcade stick directly to my Switch inside an arcade cabinet. Thank You for the video.
Watched this when it first came up... Have you continued to use the Portable Docks without issue?
All I've ever wanted was a reply from the legend himself vince😆
Legend...I wish!!!! Here is your reply. Hello Alex, thanks for watching :-)
Hi past Alex, you got your reply 😅
@@Mymatevince Thanks for the reply, I still watch and love your content to this day. 3 years later this still means a lot.
I think those 3rd party items mainly only damage the switch after being left plugged in or used on a day to day basis from what I've been hearing you won't generally figure out if it breaks it within the first 15 min, I may be wrong though so idk, love your vids by the way very helpfull
The best way to know whether or not they're good is to actually measure the voltage and current on an oscilloscope and see how closely it matches up to the original dock, that'll tell you immediately with absolute certainty just how bad any of these docks actually are.
Of course most people don't have oscilloscopes (me included) so that isn't really going to work for most people so the better option is to only buy the good well-known brands, the three that I know of are Genki, Skull & Co. , and Gullkit.
Novisor novisor you will be one of us
any chance you'll be doing this again with the 5.0.1 update? I still keep hearing stuff about people with 3rd party docks running on 5.0 getting their switch bricked on 5.0.1
Me too Thank you... I have a Insigna Dock I will try soon.
Thanks you man.
My third party dock worked fine like you showed in the video, it was bricked when the console was restarted while in the dock. If you're trying to see if they work or not you need to restart the console while still in the dock.
My Switch was bricked *immediately* when I connected it to the Nyko dock. It was playing fine on an official dock in one room, I went to move to the other room where I had the Nyko dock, and as soon as I plugged it in, an error appeared on the screen telling me to restart the system. I hit the power button, and it never got past the boot screen again. I tried numerous reboots, leaving it sit there for minutes or hours at a time with no progress. Can't access Recovery/Maintenance mode, and disconnecting the battery did nothing to help, either. I've used the Nyko dock without issues before the 5.0 update, and this was the first time I tried using it after. It's clearly not affecting everyone, and I'm glad that you didn't have any problems, but it seems clear that there's something about the latest update that's causing a sudden upsurge in random brickings. Time will tell what exactly is going on, but in the meantime I can't play the new Kirby game and I'm out 300+ hours of progress in Fire Emblem Warriors even if I do get the hardware replaced. I don't know whether to blame Nintendo or Nyko, but somebody out there clearly screwed up and I feel like they owe me a new Switch and then some for the data I can't ever get back.
Thanks for sharing the information :-)
Did you send it back to Nintendo?
Do you know anything about the charjenpro dock? I got one a few months ago but now im scared to use it
im pretty sure spawn wave used the power adapter that came with the nyko dock. Many people have said this is what causes the bricking issue.
My guess on this broken switch thing has to do with the type of dock and using the power brick that came with the 3rd party docks. In this video you left out a strong detail of the third party power brick. You used DC batteries which are better about the keeping good power sine waves, and the 1st party Nintendo power supply. It is possible that the 3rd party power supplies are not keeping the power going into the switch "clean" Which is leading to popping the power fuse in the system. (I believe this is covered in some other video somewhere but I still believe that this is the most likely scenario.)
I think you are right. Although some people have commented on here that they were using the Nintendo power supply when it bricked it seems that the majority were using the Nyko docks with the Nyko power supply.
My nyko dock broke my usb C port before the 5.0 update, but it BRICKED it immediately after. Nyko confirmed to me that it was an issue with the dock most likely. Mine (and many of what I read) bricked after being put into sleep mode.
You should do a follow up video we’re you boot up a game with online, then put the switch in sleep mode a couple times for 10-15 mins each and see what happens.
Hello Vince! What about the male to female usb? I bought one yesterday and now I'm scared to use it
Also subbed😁
Do any of these wireless adapter/converters work with multiple controllers at the same time (for multi player)?
That's a bizarre limitation of my mayflash adapter.
very good video
I was actually looking for a video where it states if thrid-party AC adapters have now been made compatible to work with the original Nintendo Switch dock set. Becausse when I tried to plug in a 3rd party AC adapter that I bought on ebay into my dock set, it gave me an error message saying that it wants you to use the Nintendo brand AC adapter instead. Has this issue been addressed so that at least some 3rd party AC adapters for the Switch now works with its original dock set?
From what I've heard, the console normally gets bricked during game play of games like BOTW because the console is drawing the most power while playing those games. There is something about the console overdrawing power that goes on.
Your the best Vince
1st time using my 3rd party dock since 5.0.0 update this morning (last dock you tried in UK)
Straight to Argos to buy another Nintendo Switch and arranging a repair of my bricked system
My advice is use the official dock.. nintendo know exactly what they're doing... my device is 2 weeks out of warranty... as we say on Rocket League.. Calculated!
Thanks for posting, if you have time to post can you remember if it happened as soon as you plugged it or did it take a while after playing and did you use a 3rd party power supply or the Nintendo AC adapter.
Cheers Vince
This was using the official charger.
I completely powered off the Nintendo Switch before connecting the 3rd Party dock.
The Switch flashed up 'Nintendo' then moments later just the joycon icon was showing on screen.
It doesn't do anything but this now.
Even the power off and power on holding both volume buttons doesnt do anything.
What's weird is if i plug this bricked switch into my official dock... the green light on the dock keeps flashing and i have to remove power to the dock to correct the state of the dock. I.e even removing the bricked Nintendo Switch leaves the official dock unusable without disconnecting the power.
Thanks for giving all the information, that is very helpful.
Nyko dock ?
No it was the UK version of the last dock in this video. Can't think what the device is called and I've actually thrown it away now understandably.
I'm sending the bricked Nintendo Switch back to Nintendo next week and it will be interesting to see how much they want to charge me for the repair.
The bricked system has completely drained of power now and it seems that the battery can't be charged.
I'd like to think Nintendo would just offer the repair for free as a good will gesture but it will more than likely cost a 3rd of the cost of the product i'm sure.
The worst part about this isn't the hardware failure.. it's Nintendo's terrible account management system.
I've had a new device since about 1:30 saturday and although i've linked my Nintendo Accounts i cant re-download any past purchases because i need to unregister the live Nintendo Switch console.... can only do this yourself if you have login access to the old device.
Customer Support is not open until Monday!
No Rocket Leaugue for me this weekend on Switch :-(
What about if you use a power bank to power the portable dock?
Does that work and how long have you run that for?
i bet it was a bad manufacture batch that has some voltage feeding issues with the docks or something similar. but im just guessing. what do you think?
Hey Vince have you heard of the official switch dock causing interference with the joycons? I can play the switch In tabletop mode in front of the Dock and I can play from a good distance away. But plug it into the Dock and the controllers cut out alot. Any ideas?
good job thx
I also have the fast snail dock. The switch bricks instantly , but once I do the reboot where you hold down the power button and volume key for like 30 seconds it comes back on
Hi I like your video and I was asking if I can get the Xbox Adapter because I have a Xbox one controller and I want to use on my Nintendo switch and I want to test it out for myself because I wanted to play on the games and if I use my Nintendo switch you will get it different
That power bank supports qc 3.0
Isn't that bad for the switch's battery?
Hey Vince, can you provide a link to the dock that runs from a 5v battery? I want one for travelling so that I don't have to carry the power block with me as they're a bit unweildy
Thanks
Hi, if you type FastSnail Switch Dock into Amazon you will see it. In the UK it is called Yuanhot. It might be worth holding off for a while until you see what the outcome is regarding these problems. In another couple of weeks enough information will be out there to work out if there has been an increase in problems after the update. On the UK one on Amazon if you look at the reviews you will see 2 comments on the 1 star (negative) reviews about damaging the Switch, one is recent and one is from way before the update. If you see floods of 1 star reviews coming in from now on then it suggests there is an issue :-)
I've been using the Fast Snail for months now. No problems so far.
Roscoe Jones , careful, mine brick my switch last night.
Joe Weaver I don't really like it because it ls not as seamless as the official dock
I have gotten mine to work with a generic USB C hdmi hub (it looks quite a lot like the fast snail one, except it's white). For some reason display output only seems to work at 720p, but it's still better than the huge dock for traveling. I will be using it in the next month, so by the end I will post a video on if it worked for the extended period of time or not.
Nice
Man i really love you,really
I prefer you than my actual mates
You are a genius
Trt the Nyko dock. That's the infamous culprit. x:
I have the fast snail adapter. I've wondered what would happen if you restart the switch while connected to the dongle? Too scared to try.
Hey, my switch has been acting funky since this update dropped. I used a Nyko dock with the charger that it came with it...I had it since it launched and didn’t give me any problems until I updated it to 5.0.0, my switch works fine, except it can’t charge...I can dock it, but the green light flashes rapidly when I throw it onto a reg. dock....tried holding down the power...no dice. I’m starting to assume my tv might play a role as to why it stopped charging. I have a 32” roku TV, in order for the dock to work I had to “preview” the hdmi port in a tiny window and my switch would flicker for a moment before recognizing that my switch was in the Nyko dock.
Thanks for sharing the info :-)
You're the man Vince!
Best bet, just use official 1st party products
I honestly think that maybe there is certain revisions of the Switch or there is certain TV's and monitors that may effect this. There also could be a defect in the chips of those docks or an issue with the memory chip. Spawn Wave said that some people are having Switch's brick when they were first released when he took it apart for the first time and said that's most likely the memory chip failing or got fried. So I think that as well could be a factor in this. But I can't prove these points, but hopefully someone figures this situation out.
Mayflash works again?!?! Yay
I have a Kacosata dock which looks like the fast snail dock but I haven't used it much as it crashed my switch a few times when connecting it and I had to hard reboot so I got worried about permanent damage. With all the worries about the 5.0 update there is no way im going to plug it in now as my warranty is expired and i cant afford a new switch. No problems with usb battery packs or my 8bitdo controller.
Thanks for the info :-)
Jason Kay kacosata is only a rebrander
Jason Kay USB battery packs should be fine. I can't see why they would be a problem (except if they're made faulty. But that's a general problem with any accessory.)
Well I have kacosata dock and I was sure that it will be friendly with my switch and yup, that works fine with 5.0.1 :)
I think I have managed to do that too "craching the Switch".
I put my Switch in to the official dock, which was not plugged in to the TV for some reason.
When I come back and pull it out of the dock the screen (on the Switch) refuses to turn on.
So I tried plugging it directly to the official power cable that comes with the dock and charge indication appeared in one of the top corners of the screen and then went away.
The screen still refused to turn on, so hold the power button, until the power off/ restart menu appeared, I selected to power off the system and turned it back on again, it worked like nothing had happened.
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I suggest that you only use the original switch dock, even though I think it sucks that you should be afraid of bricking your switch by using a non official one.
I bought a SH350 (a fast snail) dock just before the 5.0 update and now I'm scared of using it.
You might know by now, but the bricking issues are caused because the Switch is not fully compliant with USB-C standards and it behaves strangely when docked. Systems are being bricked as a result of a power control chip failing, which requires component level repair to replace it
If people are using those Docs and are having issues they are probably leaving the switch lay flat with the screen up which would cause overheating issues because the switch would be laying on it's air intake vents.
May want to try this test again with a non-Nintendo brand USB-C cord.
Funny that the sfans dock work.
kharil hasan the question is not about the dock working or not. It's about bricking the Switch and when.
what about those extension cables like a female to male USB cable, do those have any risk of bricking the switch?
This also could've just been coincidence, but i had my switch in use for a week or two and my third party dock worked fine. As soon as i updated though, when i reconnected the same third party dock, it showed a "accessory not supported" type notification and after that, my switch never took a charge again
RIP my swith 😢
Mine was also immediate(not a nyko btw) the only reason i suspect the 5.0 update is that it worked fine for weeks of use before the update, and then it actually notified me that the dock wasnt supported, then after that is when it was fucked up
Thanks for the info. Were you using the Nintendo AC power supply or a 3rd party one?
My Mate VINCE i was using a third party power adapter, but that also didnt give me any problems before this incident
Exactly what happened with mine!
What about rebooting the system with a third party dock installed while battery charge is one of '100%/50%/5%'?What about the possibility of overcharging the battery?
The battery has a protection board that stops it from charging once it's full, it also stops it from over discharging if it's empty. This is an absolute requirement on lithium ion batteries this things can get very dangerous if they are overcharged or over discharged (look at what happened to the Samsung note 7).
Any thoughts on the Switch becoming bent/warped?
Can you try to connect a Wii U gamepad to the switch with the mayflash magic NS ? I'd be really interested if that would work
Can i get the links where you bought these 2 third party docks?