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- It's been awhile since Prism was the scourge of Flesh and Blood, but her impact has been well remembered - and hated. Let's delve into the mechanic behind this hatred. Arguably Flesh and Blood's most broken mechanic: Spectra.
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As a returning player I really appreciate videos like this.
You forgot the coolest interaction. One Merciful retribution basically turned your frostbites into arcane damage against you. Fun times as Iyslander
I hadn't even thought about that (mostly because I never played Prism into Iyslander before she LLd)
Glad to see the videos back and I hope the burnout has subsided for now.
Yeah turns out making that video alone helped a lot. Should be good for awhile at least!
HE'S UNLOCKED MULTIPLE CAMERA ANGLES!!!
Now I just gotta stop being lazy and script in some green screen too
I've have to kind of disagree. While Spectra felt like the boogieman in matchups, Luminaris is what allowed Spectra, and Prism for that matter, to really be broken. Without it Spectra is not an issue, and Prism would be quite weak. She would fold to pretty much every popular deck at the moment and just be kind of annoying if anything. To emphasize, Prism ran 10-13 Spectra cards and was a menace, and there is a version of Dromai that runs 9 cards with Spectra and it's nowhere is the meta. Spectra is only a force multiplier in my opinion. A good mechanic but not broken.
Oldhim would be long gone by now if it wasn't for prism
This is Prism's true sin
I think if spectra were to come back there would have to be some sort of card similar to the cards that say "Deal x damage to an ally an opponent controls" but instead replace ally with aura
We have seen a couple cards that deal with auras, mostly from Runeblade and Wizard, but I think it's just a mechanic that should be set aside for a little while. But the cardpool may very well expand and change to allow it to come back one day!
The only way to beat spectra as Kano was to practice top decking all your best cards in a row. Other than that we had no chance 😂
Prism ate Kano for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Can't pop heralds OR auras, and only 30 life vs a hero with shields? GG EZ
Even Scour couldnt pulo it off… tought tines
For me - I just dont understand why it was designed to get rid of Go Again effects, you can maintain all the flavor without having 'the attack does not resolve'
Because the original yellow Auras were useless without it. Paying 4 for a card that could just be attacked and didn't end the combat chain would have made them awful cards. Obviously with the 0 costs on top of that it made the ability a bit busted, but I do understand why it existed for cards that cost a whopping 4 and don't block
Don’t forget about the Less hyped Runeblade Equipment against spectra: SPELLBOUND CREEPERS
It's less hyped because Runeblade doesn't need it lol
Omfg, that Oldhim skit!!! 😂😂😂
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The buffs to prism in everfest was totally uncalled for and I main prism. She isn't from aria and got a cycle of broken differently named blues. The favoritism at play is kind of ridiculous and I'm a prism lover
To be fair, LSS is a company and they know that Prism stuff will sell
@@Sloopdoop oh absolutely from a sales perspective it makes sense
I love Spectating my opponent as they realize that their turn is over
The most epic of Gamer Moments 😎
The world where we have power crept into Spectra being a fair mechanic is a world where AP's don't matter, which would be a scary world.
Spectracular video :^)
Thank you very much 🙏
New prism hero ability, all cards with ward have specta.
Guardians -NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Lmfao imagine all your spectral shields having Spectra instead of Ward
Such a good lookin guy droppin knowledge on us plebs
People complaining about Spectra should experience playing with Phantasm cards. At least you can choose when you attack a spectra card, imagine getting Arc Light Sentinel'ed without warning turn after turn.
Dromai is so painful to play sometimes when everything is always popped and you have to use Ghostly Touch
Let's see where the game shifts in the next set
$10 says whatever it is people will loudly complain
Questionnnn!!!!!! is arakni solitary good? i just started fab and just bought solitary arakni, I don't know if this deck is good or not....
It is decently solid! I actually have a budget upgrade video for all the Outsiders Blitz decks, so the Arakni one may help you
spectra is really not the problem lol. The problem was luminaris. Without Luminaris the spectras are not good. You either trade the majority of your had for an aura or you end your turn with an aura. Without Luminaris the (new) Prism builds only play a few spectras while getting very little value in comparison.
I love these type of videos. Quality over quantity every day. Thanks!
Thank you very much! I've been trying to produce more evergreen content that's also different than just "the new meta deck"
@@Sloopdoop love it
Admittedly, I didn't play much FaB and only blitz, but I tought that illusions that poped when block with 6 powers had the same kind of problems, if you play big attacks with your hero you were fine, if not those cards where strongs af. I think the intention was classes with lots of go again deal with spectra well and classes with big attacks deal with illusions well, so it kinda was meant to balanced out, but I guess it didn't turn out that way!
The issue with that idea is that you don't even get go again with spectra, so spectra counters go again heavily.
Love the video thank you
And I love you
Love you too buddy
Phantasm was the balance to spectra. Any opponent could time walk prism any turn where they drew only heralds, which can happen often. Yes oldhim had a bad matchup, but I’ve seen many bravo and starvo players just swing face their way to winning. ALS on average takes a 2.5 card hand to play, so there’s another time walk half the time. I think players back then on average just didn’t know how to properly deal with the match and the players that did won more often than not.
I disagree - phantasm only exists because illusionist attack actions are overtuned relative to other attack actions. If Phantasm balances to spectra then Passing Mirage would simply not exist
@@SuperSaiyanKrillin let me ask you this. If spectra didn’t exist at all, would prism be top tier or bottom tier?
I don't think Prism would have been amazing without Spectra, although it does seem like they're moving to Allies like Dromai, so I expect that will be her way to win in her rough matchups like Guardian. I also agree that people might not have known how to face her, but at the same time, having a bunch of cards on board in a late game scenario basically spelled instant death for any opponent. Like Kodachis on crack
@@Sloopdoop New Luminaris dropped. Brute and Guardian match ups are just going to be miserable experiences now. Unless LSS prints some truly amazing cards for her/hero ability. I think we can see new prism firmly in C tier which breaks my heart
@@Alucard6961 you could be right, but the angels don't have Phantasm. Hopefully that balances it against decks full of poppers
How are you dropping 2 auras a turn?
Pitch 4 to play a yellow Aura then play a 0 cost blue
Widely considered to be the most broken mechanic, but only by salty players or those not familiar with the math of the game.
Luminaris giving free attack value is where Spectra cards became snowbally. With Luminaris gone, not only are Spectra cards not broken, they are completely unplayable (other than passing mirage).
Spectra was never the problem, Luminaris granting free attacks was, alongside a lack of interaction cards like Runic Reclamation.
Even at its most powerful, Spectra Prism still consistantly lost to most aggro decks + Brute and Starvo. Other than Oldhim (which later became a menace when unchecked by Prism), the only decks Spectra felt unfair against were decks that were already undersupported and floundering against everything, lile Warrior, Ranger, and Wizard. Those decks would still have done poorly in those metas even without Spectra. Give those classes access to more action point card or Aura removal, and full-power, original Luminaris Prism wouldnt even be top 3 decks right now.
Next up, bye bye mechanologists and items! You heard it hear first folks! I do hope this game balances out very very soon, so instead of the gaming needing to get fixed all the time, LSS can focus on printing more heroes and equipment for a more diverse meta, otherwise....
As a Dorinthea player may I be the first in the comment section to say - I hope we never see Spectra again 🙃.
Rip to all our fallen dawnblade counters :(
Honestly Dori needs some serious help (aka a new hero card). Warrior in general feels like it's fallen through the cracks and Monarch was certainly where it started.
@@Sloopdoop They need on hits with detrimental effects for the opponent. Almost everything they have now just buffs their own attacks, which isn't enough with the way FaB has developed since it was released
So I used to play allot of prisim when she first came out, I think I won once total, dispite my opponents cheating the other wins I still had fun things like, go again triggering dispite spectra, ect
The big problem with the blue auras is they are just too low impact that even when they came out, don't have go again (how people were dropping two was convoluted and ate resource) , and all my opponents knew how to play vs her.
Yet when I watched videos or streams vs her I would never see the opponent play correctly. It was fucking MADDENING, so I had to stop.
By the time she got banned I had already quit. I had been losing events due to shakey rules wordings by LSS causing judge calls to go against me, dispite retroactive checks confirming that I was correct. Even in that GT, looking at the vod and reports, people still played against her so badly, so she almost got banned for nothing.
Countering spectra mechanic is easy, just hit prism for 3/5, then with your last go again pop a yellow arua. You will always out damage, or eat her hand with blocks. It's not hard.
Edit: Don't write rants on mobile kids, Holy heck. Sorry if that was unreadable for a while.
Because Its much easier to cry about her instead.
I'm gonna be honest with you, man: this is a skill issue on your part. Prism was a hero that required YOU to have in-depth knowledge of the rules, you couldn't rely on your opponent to know how the cards worked. You had to be able to explain to them why Arclight Sentinel just ended their turn, but also know why playing Arclight Sentinel after your opponent has already attack you doesn't change the target of the attack. Prism required you to play a completely different game than your opponent, and alter their gameplan at crucial moments to stop your board from getting out of control. The fact that you think the blue auras are "slow" gives away just how little you understand about Prism, and explains exactly why you couldn't win a game: it's because you don't understand how Prism wins.
Prism's gameplan is to build up auras on the field by playing two auras a turn (one yellow, one blue) and get value by attacking with very small chip damage, while ALSO threatening big blowout cards like Herald of Erudition and large damage from Wartune Herald/Miraging Metamorph. If an opponent let you get 3+ auras on the field, 9 times out of 10 the game is strictly over, due to the auras all working together to buff each other and snowball advantage. Since Luminaris gave everything except Blue Auras go again, you could easily end your turn by playing a blue aura out, and they also pitched very well to play Yellow Auras, and they could ALSO be arsenaled to have a free aura to play at the end of the next turn. Realistically, you couldn't win because your opponents knew more about Prism than you did, and knew which auras to pop, while you probably didn't understand when you were supposed to be the aggressor vs. when you needed to be defensive. You probably blocked damage early, instead of just taking 10-20 damage to the face over the first few turns in order to get a bunch of Auras onto the field, and THEN start being aggressive while your opponent had to deal with the auras one at a time. It's a lack of knowledge.
Spectra was the biggest mistake LSS ever made, except for reprinting c&c as a GD Fable instead of a majestic.
Duskblade
@@Sloopdoop I say give it a chance see what it can do 🤣
Illusionist building permanents is just not good for the game IMO.
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So sorry you had to see my face
Nah spectra was great bc it made bad designed classes (guardians and wizards) unplayable.
C'mon sloop you don't need to put rape jokes in your otherwise useful & entertaining card game video
It wasn't a rape joke
@@Sloopdoop "sorry you're right, my mistake"