One thing that I love about Phil, among many, is his genuine joy at everything he encounters or learns.. there’s no unnecessary social constraints on how he expresses himself and it’s AWESOME.. this cast of characters was magic, I’m so so glad we have as many hours of footage that we do.. most of us all wish it never stopped, but I’m glad we got as much as we did.. and I’m loving that they’re crowdfunding it back into existence ❤
When they drop the pole at the beginning Phil's laugh is sooooo infectious. If they could bottle his laugh into my alarm clock, I think it would bring a smile to my face every day.
I love England and TIME TEAM is very interesting and fun show. I love the different characters on TIME TEAM as well. Francis is great . He enjoys talking about the spiritual aspects of the digs. that gives you a nice comprehensive idea of how the people lived. Thank you.
I love these folks. After binge watching a bunch of these, you really get a sense of their personalities and they seem like the kind of people you'd love to hang out with.
You also can learn what archaology aims to do, which is to reconstruct the culture of the past, from material remains and soil features. It is WONDERFUL to find fascinating and unique artifacts but much is learnt just from the grunt work of mapping out bldgs and remains of ordinary activity. Native Americans also used boiling stones - often fire-cracked rocks are all you find. They first put stones on the bottom of birchbark (etc) pots so they could drop boiling stones in.
And their friendships! I always really enjoy how you can tell they all really do get along and all have the same goal. To find out what happened on the site and they all really respect each other’s expertise. ❤
What fun...Francis, at the end, dashing around sounding just like Tony when he closes the episode with the synopsis of the finds! And then, to find the chefs all gathered in the 'round house', CUTE!!!
This has to be one of the more interesting incident rooms atop the control tower. What a fantastic program, incorporating technology, the archeological discipline and a wonderful group of professionals.
I also love how they like to get the local community involved and that their extensive records and data are made available to UK universities and archeology efforts in case they want to continue the dig later!
I don't think Shoreline Detectives or the Bone Detectives would have gotten off the ground without Time Team and a principal reason for TT's success was the good-natured ribbing among the participants. They are basically witty along with being intelligent, knowledge, and dedicated. They also benefited from the "first days" enthusiasm they have for their short-lived (and nonetheless valuable) exploratory investigations. Compare them to the weary chief archaeologists, after months overseeing their digs, being interviewed by the lovely Alice Roberts, engaging and qualified as she is.
I absolutely love this episode. Francis and Mick are in it together! There’s a lot of mystery and awe too. Stuart though, he takes the show to a new level. Best show ever! Better than the trash thats on TV these days. Thanks TT!
Stuart was so understated and underrated - without him half the digs would remain in question what the heck the context would be - personally I agree about the combo of Francis and Mick, then again, Francis is my favorite
Enjoyed the episode, but must take to task Dr Francis Pryor's comment on the tracks. He said "It's a matter of prestige, the farmer would purchase a Rolls Royce befor the tractor". There is no-way, as a farmer myself, it would be the Tractor first
Some people misunderstand Francis Pryor, he did change his mind when the evidence for a purely iron age site was presented. His observations may seem strange to some, but he has a huge wealth of experience investing bronze age sites and is right far more often then wrong.
I wait with baited breathe for the day they dig up an archaeologists grave yard, after all they must be interred somewhere. The colourful jumpers , hats and trowels through the ages would be enthralling.
That alignment of strips at right angles to a waterway is typical of French settlements along the St. Lawrence River in Quebec. (Access to water is essential for agriculture.)
I think the reasons so many dislike Francis Pryor - 1) he's willing to go out on a limb (sometimes way out) with speculation, 2) he's so different from Mick in style. It took me a long time to get used to him. I thought he was a nut, but that's his ebullient style. I had to listen and re-listen to hear his underlying scholarship.
I have to say I like Francis . I love the opposing viewpoints and the discussions . I've caught myself joining in the argument a few times as if they can hear me 🤣
And he didn't seem to mind in the least having a theory shot down. He'd give a wry smile and carry on to the next hypothesis as if this was all a logical chain of events on the way to digging up the truth (as well as we can understand it today). His passion, enthusiasm, jolly sense of humor, and deep love for the peoples of the past is so catching that I can't help but enjoy the journey. A mad, archeological pied piper.
love he armchair archilogists in this thread slamming frances. he's almost never wrong. I think people are put off by his massive enthusiasm. I really enjoy him and his books
Well, I'm an actual archaeologist (BA, MA, PhD) and Francis was seeing what he wanted to see in this instance. There were no track marks there. Yes, other sites have them - my husband excavated some in Yorkshire in the 1990s - but this site did not have them. Francis can be wrong; just because he says stuff with enthusiasm doesn't mean he's right or wrong, just that he's got conviction. His "RITUAL!" explanation for stuff he doesn't understand is truly annoying and does my profession no good, but that's another issue.
Celtic Spirit - I agree that so many people tend to forget that English isn't everyone's first language, so kudo's to you for reminding others.. however.. it is not racism to criticize language skills..
I quite like Dr Pryor's explanations because he makes his assumptions based on what he sees in the ground, he might be hard for some to take, but i don't mind because of his knowledge of his chosen field. And he did not make any assertions that were not proved to be true in that episode, including showing the archeologist the wheel tracks, i am at a loss to see were he made any error by doing so?
I thought the explanations in this episode were exceptional. Katie Hirst has come a long way in showing off her trenches, Francis' discussions about Bronze vs. Iron Age finds, Jacqui Wood and her showing how sophisticated Iron Age cooking was, and of course Stewart's deciphering the landscape. I agree that the "trackway" was hard to swallow bu tthe rest of it was just great.
Imagine telling the people that lived here that we had experts getting exited over their cookware and cart tracks. Makes one wonder what now-mundane thing the archaeologists of the future will get excited over .
The RAF base is here 52.140294°N 2.042171°W though there's not much to see in the way of crop marks in the well-manicured infield. But to the west you can see the 30m/100' circles where the Vulcan bombers would have been parked.
Thanks again bud. In the view on Google Maps right now there does seem to be some crop marks visible. What I think is ridge and furrow is clearly visible on different parts of the airfield and the surrounding fields.
40:20 The Piddle Brook: He says it 4 times and manages to hold it together, at least in this take. I wonder if these Iron Age folk were taking the piddle?
Might have referred to the size of/ amount of water in the brook, no more than a piddle or a piddling amount. They do have some rather interesting names.
Not so sure about the personal grooming being because people back then wanted to “look nice” as much as it was probably to make life easier/more comfortable. Having a mustache that’s grown out so much it hangs over your mouth giving you the feeling of eating hair at every meal isn’t something I’d expect anyone to deal with if they have the means to stop it. Same with cleaning out their ears. Having so much wax buildup that it inebriates your hearing probably isn’t good for people who hunt for food along with having to stay alert for attacks from outsiders.
Watching these is like a degree course. Having watched the pre-industrial iron smelting one, I now know why charcoal in a trench is a big deal...It would be worth ma king a wa tch list for metal-working, pot making etc through the ages.
So many "arm chair archaeologists" here going on about Francis's "cart tracks". But were any of you there at the dig looking at the actual "tracks"? No, you're looking at a processed, edited and probably digitally compressed video rendering of the event. The resolution is barely good enough to clearly see some of the subtle color differences in the soil they were pointing out. I have done a 'little' archaeological digging and a lot of animal tracking and regularly see subtle traces in/on the ground that I can't get clear photographs of and have to show/explain to companions up close because they can't see them otherwise. Maybe there are/aren't "cart tracks", but none of us viewers have any valid basis by which to criticize a professional of Francis's standing on this point.
I agree with you. People often send me pictures of artifacts and want me to identify or authenticate them. I can tell you from personal experience that you can tell details of an item in person that you cannot see in pictures or videos
I was really sympathizing with Tony's early frustration on this episode. That Malcolm Atkin (the County Archaeologist) came across as an old fart who was worried that Time Team might actually find something interesting and someone else might be brought in to take his job. If he had said one more word about "maintaining the future integrity of the site" (basically nibbling around the edges where you're less likely to find something definitive), I would have seriously needed to bang my head on the computer table. It was so bad that I actually liked the English Heritage guy, who seemed much more sensible. "If you don't understand something how can you preserve it?" - Words of wisdom from Francis, how can anyone criticize him in this episode? Apparently overnight Mr. Atkin's prunes worked their magic, and he seemed like a totally reasonable person on Day Two.
I'm not sure that was his issue. He didn't seem to be the brightest of the bunch and the sort to get rather stuck on a concept even when when everyone else was starting to move on. Like keeping the integrity of a site. It was a phase that the archaeology world went through when archaeologists started to fully appreciate just how far archaeology had come and the difference the developing technology made. Suddenly they could see all those sites dug by early archaeologists and groan over the loss of knowledge, and could not help but wonder what future archaeologists might think of them. Except there's a problem with that thinking. Sure future archaeologists will have better technology, but it is assuming that the site is still there to be dug. That all the things that can happen to a site hasn't happened in the meantime. Which is why archaeologists eventually compromised, and figured that they should learn what they could now with current technology, but leave enough to be dug in the future with better technology when more can be learned from the same site. Malcom Atkins though just seemed to neither understand the original concept, merely seemed to want the integrity preserved without a firm idea of why. I also assume that the difference between day 1 and 2 is because there was a quiet little talk behind the scenes on the evening at day 1 that made him see some sense. He sounded very like Mick in what he was saying, so if I was to guess, I'd say it was Mick's influence at work.
Please try to understand that the man from Worcs. County is just trying to give guidance as well as make sure that not too much of the archaeology is destroyed in enthusiastic digging up of the past. He has to follow rules and guidelines himself to do his work but without being unreasonable to the Time Team. There are many instances in these programmes when previous era diggers were careless about site preservation and recording finds with inaccurate or no location details. Give the man a break as he is human and therefore not perfect just like the rest of us. His organisation wants to make sure that we can still discover and learn from future physical investigations for many years to come.
Came here for "my cousin Throckmorton" references. Found none. Frankly, I'm disappointed in you, TH-cam commenters. Disappointed. Stayed to watch the episode because I am watching all Time Team episodes because they are great.
That most definitely is NOT a WWII control tower. It is a post-war (Cold War era) design, quite unlike the more austere WWII designs. It may very well be a renovation to a second world war era structure, perhaps replacing the original control tower.
I was thinking the same thing. It doesn't have the typical box shape of a WW2 tower. I figured is has to be post ww2 but there's no info on line that I can find.
So awesome - they change their plans to protect ancient remains. While here in the US, the president decommissions National Parks so his buddies can destroy sensitive areas for profit.
They would not have been catching Rainbow trout out of the rivers in the Middle Ages anywhere near North Western Europe! Rainbow trout were not introduced to England until the 19th century! They would have eaten Brown trout and salmon...... :(
What time period is your favourite on TT? I would say 1. Tudor and later 2. Roman 3. Viking. Please comment below, I would love to hear others opinion on this.
Parrot Raiser Yeah I only volunteered to cart muck as a student but the men were old & hairy & the females were strangely together. So glad its more diverse now :)
My type if she were on my side of The Pond. Here we call it the Atlantic and "the pond" is the local term for Lake Ontario! But then citizens of the UK speak English where we speak American...
I love Francis but I think the invisible ruts where a bit too much and not confirmed enough. They needed to find at least a few more meters . Katie was just being polite...
everyone on the show has a great unique personality to bring to the party, which is why i have been binging this show for a couple of months now. i love stewarts work rate, enthusiasm and his intelligence in working out where things may lay or how things may or usually did, look a thousand or more years ago. smart bloke. very important to the team .
Does anyone know is all the episodes are on youtube? I am American and discovered the show during covid when Trump shut down the country and paid me to sit at home for 2 years. Just wondering if I might have missed some? Thanks, love the show.
who is this guy, Malcomb, saying don't dig here, but find me answers... John Ette, from British Heritage, was my favorite. He could protect a site, and still let TT dig the important parts. all in order to get the best information possible, and have an informed view of what was below the ground. even Ian says dig, and I need to "see" what's there. lol
One element of the argument is that archaeological sciences and technology improve with time so leaving sites for the future will eventually lead to a greater understanding than if they were dug now.
@@granthurlburt4062 But, wouldn't the technology and methodology be better tomorrow than it is today? So how many tomorrows should a site be put off limits?
Archaeological remains don't decay sitting in the ground. It is very expensive to mount a full-scale archaeological excavation. These three day investigations are just sorties. There are many more valuable sites to be excavated than there are funds to excavate all. These are the real reasons.
The Worcs County Archaeologist is a petty bureaucrat who seems to love exercising his little bit of power. He wants to have the Time Team provide the ammunition to strengthen his position by having the site restricted but doesn't want to let them dig anything for fear that they will diminish "his" pristine site.
Please try to understand that the man from Worcs. County is just trying to give guidance as well as make sure that not too much of the archaeology is destroyed in enthusiastic digging up of the past. He has to follow rules and guidelines himself to do his work but without being unreasonable to the Time Team. There are many instances in these programmes when previous era diggers were careless about site preservation and recording finds with inaccurate or no location details. Give the man a break as he is human and therefore not perfect just like the rest of us. His organisation wants to make sure that we can still discover and learn from future physical investigations for many years to come.
This prissy guy who is obsessed with disturbing the site is holding the entire project back with his super conservative attitude. They have incredible geophysics yet he wants to dig in the least promising sites. Isn’t the entire point to get the most evidence so that they can properly have it registered as a historical site?
I have a problem with Dr. Pryor's method of explanation. For example, he had to persuade a field archeologist that there were wheel tracks in the dirt (she obviously didn't see them). The good doctor is making assumptions all over the place. I just don't buy most of his explanations.
Steve Harris He's the type of archaeologist they warn students against. He makes conclusions and then shoves the evidence to fit it. Sometimes, in episodes where he's got it wrong, he'll get upset, annoyed etc when they point it out and you can just see him stew on the evidence not supporting his reality
It really annoys me, Discovery Channel hi jacking Time Team, and not giving any credit to Channel 4, who were the real publishers. Also varios people have given credit to the BBC. Please get your facts straight
That's because they yelled and screamed at him in the first two episodes TO NEVER ENTER A DITCH WITHOUT ASKING FIRST. He doesn't know what he's stepping on, and he could damage the archeology.
@@asticou04 I've watched these particular vids for years now. I can't count the number of seemingly silly questions from folks, who stumbled in on one particular vid, and have not seen all the earlier vids. I prefer to not be infantile, like the egotistical millenials, who jump at the opportunity to be intolerant, rude and obnoxious, by trying to make themselves look better while belittling complete stranger for not knowing the entire history of a show, the poor soul just discovered.
Can't stop laughing at "Piddle Brook" maybe it's an American thing... is "piddle" not a slang term for "urine" in the UK? in the US that'd be like saying "Pee Brook" or "Piss Brook"
Nonsense. It is very expensive to conduct a careful dig and it also requires a lot of preparation. It's not a matter of the "best finds". It is his job to be careful and ensure that nothing is destryed by hasty activity The remains arent going anywhere. What do you mean "best"? He is paid to protect archaeological resources. Do you think he gets paid for "finding the best archaology with his buddies"?
Sorry but if you follow Malcolm's plan then you might as well not do anything. In archeology you have to destroy to learn and move forward. Doing so conservatively is different than always going around or not doing it at all.
Simply not true. These guys have only three days. It takes far longer to conduct a detailed investigation, and is far more expensive to mount. He is in a responsible position and is actually both well-trained and experienced. There's actually a good chance he knows what he's doing!
Also they do leave detailed records of their dig and I believe I read that their data is accessible to university students in the UK, or archeology effort to continue the dig more in depth. This show has found many cool things and integral in getting sites protected to be studied later.
One thing that I love about Phil, among many, is his genuine joy at everything he encounters or learns.. there’s no unnecessary social constraints on how he expresses himself and it’s AWESOME..
this cast of characters was magic, I’m so so glad we have as many hours of footage that we do.. most of us all wish it never stopped, but I’m glad we got as much as we did..
and I’m loving that they’re crowdfunding it back into existence ❤
Ooh,Ahh?
@@GeorgeF-c4m 🤣
One thing I always have appreciated about Francis is he will always admit when he's wrong. Plus his enthusiasm!
When they drop the pole at the beginning Phil's laugh is sooooo infectious. If they could bottle his laugh into my alarm clock, I think it would bring a smile to my face every day.
People are stuck at home, needing some good family entertainment. This show is the answer. And it's educational! Spread the word!
Also, nice first name Lora😊
Sounds like a viking laugh to me.
This pole is a monument also!
I am amazed by the emotional nature of the comments from the time team community.
I find it refreshing......
Didn't know you can like your own post?????(neat)
@@PaulMahon-w2b
I liked it for you, too.
So now you have 2!!!
I love England and TIME TEAM is very interesting and fun show. I love the different characters on TIME TEAM as well. Francis is great . He enjoys talking about the spiritual aspects of the digs. that gives you a nice comprehensive idea of how the people lived. Thank you.
I love these folks. After binge watching a bunch of these, you really get a sense of their personalities and they seem like the kind of people you'd love to hang out with.
hooray for binge watching!!! I am so into this series; and will be so sad when I run out of seasons/episodes :o(
TT is the perfect show to binge during the quarantine!!
You also can learn what archaology aims to do, which is to reconstruct the culture of the past, from material remains and soil features. It is WONDERFUL to find fascinating and unique artifacts but much is learnt just from the grunt work of mapping out bldgs and remains of ordinary activity. Native Americans also used boiling stones - often fire-cracked rocks are all you find. They first put stones on the bottom of birchbark (etc) pots so they could drop boiling stones in.
And their friendships! I always really enjoy how you can tell they all really do get along and all have the same goal. To find out what happened on the site and they all really respect each other’s expertise. ❤
What fun...Francis, at the end, dashing around sounding just like Tony when he closes the episode with the synopsis of the finds! And then, to find the chefs all gathered in the 'round house', CUTE!!!
This has to be one of the more interesting incident rooms atop the control tower. What a fantastic program, incorporating technology, the archeological discipline and a wonderful group of professionals.
I also love how they like to get the local community involved and that their extensive records and data are made available to UK universities and archeology efforts in case they want to continue the dig later!
"Is that a problem? Not for us. We're gonna pull down the telegraph pole"
I love this energy.
I don't think Shoreline Detectives or the Bone Detectives would have gotten off the ground without Time Team and a principal reason for TT's success was the good-natured ribbing among the participants. They are basically witty along with being intelligent, knowledge, and dedicated. They also benefited from the "first days" enthusiasm they have for their short-lived (and nonetheless valuable) exploratory investigations. Compare them to the weary chief archaeologists, after months overseeing their digs, being interviewed by the lovely Alice Roberts, engaging and qualified as she is.
I absolutely love this episode. Francis and Mick are in it together! There’s a lot of mystery and awe too. Stuart though, he takes the show to a new level. Best show ever! Better than the trash thats on TV these days. Thanks TT!
Stuart was so understated and underrated - without him half the digs would remain in question what the heck the context would be - personally I agree about the combo of Francis and Mick, then again, Francis is my favorite
Incident room in the controller tower is epic!
Kudos to the authorities for asking the archeologists to survey first and then respecting the findings. Much respect.
Enjoyed the episode, but must take to task Dr Francis Pryor's comment on the tracks. He said "It's a matter of prestige, the farmer would purchase a Rolls Royce befor the tractor". There is no-way, as a farmer myself, it would be the Tractor first
Francis Pryor is a brilliant author and explains the Neolithic and Mesolithic in his books and on film with insight and empathy, I like him
And his fiction books are quite good too. Murder and Archaeology! 😂
Some people misunderstand Francis Pryor, he did change his mind when the evidence for a purely iron age site was presented. His observations may seem strange to some, but he has a huge wealth of experience investing bronze age sites and is right far more often then wrong.
Stewart is an archaeological gem!
I wait with baited breathe for the day they dig up an archaeologists grave yard, after all they must be interred somewhere. The colourful jumpers , hats and trowels through the ages would be enthralling.
That alignment of strips at right angles to a waterway is typical of French settlements along the St. Lawrence River in Quebec. (Access to water is essential for agriculture.)
Jacqui woods is a total doll! Lovely lady! Marvelous!
I think the reasons so many dislike Francis Pryor - 1) he's willing to go out on a limb (sometimes way out) with speculation, 2) he's so different from Mick in style. It took me a long time to get used to him. I thought he was a nut, but that's his ebullient style. I had to listen and re-listen to hear his underlying scholarship.
I actualy prefered him over mick. So much more enthousiasm.
I have to say I like Francis . I love the opposing viewpoints and the discussions . I've caught myself joining in the argument a few times as if they can hear me 🤣
And he didn't seem to mind in the least having a theory shot down. He'd give a wry smile and carry on to the next hypothesis as if this was all a logical chain of events on the way to digging up the truth (as well as we can understand it today). His passion, enthusiasm, jolly sense of humor, and deep love for the peoples of the past is so catching that I can't help but enjoy the journey. A mad, archeological pied piper.
I prefer Mick but Francis is okay.
Love Francis... "I'm a happy bunny."
love he armchair archilogists in this thread slamming frances. he's almost never wrong. I think people are put off by his massive enthusiasm. I really enjoy him and his books
Well, I'm an actual archaeologist (BA, MA, PhD) and Francis was seeing what he wanted to see in this instance. There were no track marks there. Yes, other sites have them - my husband excavated some in Yorkshire in the 1990s - but this site did not have them. Francis can be wrong; just because he says stuff with enthusiasm doesn't mean he's right or wrong, just that he's got conviction. His "RITUAL!" explanation for stuff he doesn't understand is truly annoying and does my profession no good, but that's another issue.
@Bottomlands
English is not everyone's first language. No need for racism.
Celtic Spirit - I agree that so many people tend to forget that English isn't everyone's first language, so kudo's to you for reminding others.. however.. it is not racism to criticize language skills..
it may not be racism, but it is rude.
I quite like Dr Pryor's explanations because he makes his assumptions based on what he sees in the ground, he might be hard for some to take, but i don't mind because of his knowledge of his chosen field. And he did not make any assertions that were not proved to be true in that episode, including showing the archeologist the wheel tracks, i am at a loss to see were he made any error by doing so?
+Lenny Tyler I quite agree, some of the comments made here clearly indicate that some people did not understand what they watched.
I love watching Francis. He´s just so enthusiastic, all without getting bogged down into his preconceived notions.
If I had life to do all over I'd do it in the dirt as an archaeologist,fascinating show,fascinating field of science.
yes. but do you like getting rained on? a lot?
@@patrickwentz8413 rains no issue. Try getting hailed on in a field in Leicestershire in February 😂
why not a banker like Rothschild
Me, too.
"Hello! Greetings! D'ya want some eel stew?" Best. Welcome. EVER.
At last, a cooking segment that's really interesting.
I can remember reading that western tribes in the US used hot stones in leather pouches to cook food. Would it work in pottery vessels or be too hot?
ould work fine if you dropped in softly tp nit Crack the bottom
I thought the explanations in this episode were exceptional. Katie Hirst has come a long way in showing off her trenches, Francis' discussions about Bronze vs. Iron Age finds, Jacqui Wood and her showing how sophisticated Iron Age cooking was, and of course Stewart's deciphering the landscape. I agree that the "trackway" was hard to swallow bu tthe rest of it was just great.
Just fantastic and Frances finding the ruts was superb
Love that animation at the end
Imagine telling the people that lived here that we had experts getting exited over their cookware and cart tracks. Makes one wonder what now-mundane thing the archaeologists of the future will get excited over .
Archeologist finds a sex toy and declares it a ritual item.
I shall never grumble about the deep farmer's tractor ru ts on the tracks around me when I'm getting stuck in them on my mountain bike again :)
Interesting episode... what a great incident room!
thanks for posting
The RAF base is here
52.140294°N 2.042171°W
though there's not much to see in the way of crop marks in the well-manicured infield. But to the west you can see the 30m/100' circles where the Vulcan bombers would have been parked.
Thanks again bud. In the view on Google Maps right now there does seem to be some crop marks visible. What I think is ridge and furrow is clearly visible on different parts of the airfield and the surrounding fields.
40:20 The Piddle Brook: He says it 4 times and manages to hold it together, at least in this take. I wonder if these Iron Age folk were taking the piddle?
An unfortunate name.
Might have referred to the size of/ amount of water in the brook, no more than a piddle or a piddling amount.
They do have some rather interesting names.
Not so sure about the personal grooming being because people back then wanted to “look nice” as much as it was probably to make life easier/more comfortable. Having a mustache that’s grown out so much it hangs over your mouth giving you the feeling of eating hair at every meal isn’t something I’d expect anyone to deal with if they have the means to stop it. Same with cleaning out their ears. Having so much wax buildup that it inebriates your hearing probably isn’t good for people who hunt for food along with having to stay alert for attacks from outsiders.
Great... as usual!
Mick: "want some eel stew?"😂😅😊
Watching these is like a degree course. Having watched the pre-industrial iron smelting one, I now know why charcoal in a trench is a big deal...It would be worth ma king a wa tch list for metal-working, pot making etc through the ages.
So many "arm chair archaeologists" here going on about Francis's "cart tracks". But were any of you there at the dig looking at the actual "tracks"? No, you're looking at a processed, edited and probably digitally compressed video rendering of the event. The resolution is barely good enough to clearly see some of the subtle color differences in the soil they were pointing out. I have done a 'little' archaeological digging and a lot of animal tracking and regularly see subtle traces in/on the ground that I can't get clear photographs of and have to show/explain to companions up close because they can't see them otherwise. Maybe there are/aren't "cart tracks", but none of us viewers have any valid basis by which to criticize a professional of Francis's standing on this point.
I agree with you. People often send me pictures of artifacts and want me to identify or authenticate them. I can tell you from personal experience that you can tell details of an item in person that you cannot see in pictures or videos
Heck I thought it was cool to see cart track.
I've never seen the tracks of a cart in my life,let alone ancient.
Tire tracks ruts I've seen though
Francis is INSANE! lol I’m not entirely convinced of his cart wheel ruts, can’t follow him on that limb.
Could you handle it if they were ritual cart tracks??😊??
I was really sympathizing with Tony's early frustration on this episode. That Malcolm Atkin (the County Archaeologist) came across as an old fart who was worried that Time Team might actually find something interesting and someone else might be brought in to take his job. If he had said one more word about "maintaining the future integrity of the site" (basically nibbling around the edges where you're less likely to find something definitive), I would have seriously needed to bang my head on the computer table. It was so bad that I actually liked the English Heritage guy, who seemed much more sensible. "If you don't understand something how can you preserve it?" - Words of wisdom from Francis, how can anyone criticize him in this episode? Apparently overnight Mr. Atkin's prunes worked their magic, and he seemed like a totally reasonable person on Day Two.
Could be the show producers "discussed" the issue with Mr. Atkin's supervisors...Let us dig or we'll leave...
I'm not sure that was his issue. He didn't seem to be the brightest of the bunch and the sort to get rather stuck on a concept even when when everyone else was starting to move on. Like keeping the integrity of a site. It was a phase that the archaeology world went through when archaeologists started to fully appreciate just how far archaeology had come and the difference the developing technology made. Suddenly they could see all those sites dug by early archaeologists and groan over the loss of knowledge, and could not help but wonder what future archaeologists might think of them. Except there's a problem with that thinking. Sure future archaeologists will have better technology, but it is assuming that the site is still there to be dug. That all the things that can happen to a site hasn't happened in the meantime. Which is why archaeologists eventually compromised, and figured that they should learn what they could now with current technology, but leave enough to be dug in the future with better technology when more can be learned from the same site.
Malcom Atkins though just seemed to neither understand the original concept, merely seemed to want the integrity preserved without a firm idea of why. I also assume that the difference between day 1 and 2 is because there was a quiet little talk behind the scenes on the evening at day 1 that made him see some sense. He sounded very like Mick in what he was saying, so if I was to guess, I'd say it was Mick's influence at work.
...prunes!!! lol
Please try to understand that the man from Worcs. County is just trying to give guidance as well as make sure that not too much of the archaeology is destroyed in enthusiastic digging up of the past. He has to follow rules and guidelines himself to do his work but without being unreasonable to the Time Team.
There are many instances in these programmes when previous era diggers were careless about site preservation and recording finds with inaccurate or no location details.
Give the man a break as he is human and therefore not perfect just like the rest of us. His organisation wants to make sure that we can still discover and learn from future physical investigations for many years to come.
😂
Came here for "my cousin Throckmorton" references. Found none. Frankly, I'm disappointed in you, TH-cam commenters. Disappointed.
Stayed to watch the episode because I am watching all Time Team episodes because they are great.
Does anyone know what that insanely large circle is in the center of the field?
That most definitely is NOT a WWII control tower. It is a post-war (Cold War era) design, quite unlike the more austere WWII designs. It may very well be a renovation to a second world war era structure, perhaps replacing the original control tower.
It was mentioned in the beginning that pist ww2 it was a site used for bombers. There you have the post ww2 tower.
I had the same thought but maybe it started WWII and was upgraded later.
I was thinking the same thing. It doesn't have the typical box shape of a WW2 tower. I figured is has to be post ww2 but there's no info on line that I can find.
Phil is cooking! Now that’s new!
So awesome - they change their plans to protect ancient remains. While here in the US, the president decommissions National Parks so his buddies can destroy sensitive areas for profit.
He thinks he's been made king; wait until Nov. 2020!
In the USA “hobbyists” are permitted to desecrate Indian burial mounds to steal long buried arrowheads, tomahawks, beads, and pottery.
@@minimaker5600 bet you’re loving the new administration with the occasional bank collapse
Things like that seem rather trivial compared to the economic collapse, looming war, and moral decay that came with the next guy.
@@Max-nb6hf Problem is… the bank collapses have been brought along by the policies of the previous administration, soooo 🫤
Awesome lesson!
Mick's Paleo Snackery... should be good... ;-)
Like the episodes when they do experiments
Me too. Very much. I have tried making stone tools (very hard) and fired black powder muskets, remnants of which we found on a site.
Trying to get around to grinding a stone axe myself 😊@granthurlburt4062
They would not have been catching Rainbow trout out of the rivers in the Middle Ages anywhere near North Western Europe! Rainbow trout were not introduced to England until the 19th century! They would have eaten Brown trout and salmon...... :(
More like pike, perch and bream. Salmon would have been a seasonal food.
What time period is your favourite on TT? I would say 1. Tudor and later 2. Roman 3. Viking. Please comment below, I would love to hear others opinion on this.
I lean towards prehistoric and then followed by Medieval myself.
Midevil!
@@Mistahhuntah A lot of episodes to enjoy for you, then!
Neolithic & Bronze Age.
Saxon,Neolithic
Groovy incident room with a view.
Strange, no mention of the big circular grass discoloration.
Aliens
I've always liked Francis pryor
The biggest archeological dig to come out of the foot in mouth epedemic. That's like saying the most full tube of toothpaste in my bathroom lol
where is the wax from in prehistoric days for the lights
Love Katie, very giggly, clever, cute with a laddish thing! My type.
Archaeology used to be the province of beardy old dudes; it's a much better-looking demographic now.
Parrot Raiser Yeah I only volunteered to cart muck as a student but the men were old & hairy & the females were strangely together. So glad its more diverse now :)
My type if she were on my side of The Pond. Here we call it the Atlantic and "the pond" is the local term for Lake Ontario! But then citizens of the UK speak English where we speak American...
I think I’m going to fly over the pond and find this woman
Now there is a nice bit of cheating at 30:27 when Carenza doesn't get the stone out and the other woman drops it onto the tongs.
I saw that too.
At about 36:00 even Ian, who looks super-relaxed , seems to want to slaughter Francis & bury him there.
I love Francis but I think the invisible ruts where a bit too much and not confirmed enough. They needed to find at least a few more meters . Katie was just being polite...
If you squint your eyes, hold your tongue just right and believe you'll see it.
Tell the least disturbance guy to go somewhere
Telegraph pole? That's ancient!
It was probably a flood light pole or an aerial of some kind attached to the top left over from when the base was active.
Would someone help me out? Why do they always only have 3 days?
they did the digs from friday til sunday,because they all had regular jobs to go to .
@@lizzy66125 I thought that might be the case. Thank you for verifying.
Always listen to Stewart.
everyone on the show has a great unique personality to bring to the party, which is why i have been binging this show for a couple of months now. i love stewarts work rate, enthusiasm and his intelligence in working out where things may lay or how things may or usually did, look a thousand or more years ago. smart bloke. very important to the team .
You can’t take a shot everytime they say “geo phys”. You just can’t.
Hold my beer
You can, but it would be really really bad for your liver …
Does anyone know is all the episodes are on youtube? I am American and discovered the show during covid when Trump shut down the country and paid me to sit at home for 2 years. Just wondering if I might have missed some? Thanks, love the show.
I'm not drinking water from Piddle Brook.
Tony: 'Can I get into your trench?'
Two seconds of silence ...
Tony jumps into trench.
who is this guy, Malcomb, saying don't dig here, but find me answers... John Ette, from British Heritage, was my favorite. He could protect a site, and still let TT dig the important parts. all in order to get the best information possible, and have an informed view of what was below the ground. even Ian says dig, and I need to "see" what's there. lol
need secure link
Where's the logic is saying a site's archaeological potential is so great that archaeologists are banned from digging it up?
One element of the argument is that archaeological sciences and technology improve with time so leaving sites for the future will eventually lead to a greater understanding than if they were dug now.
@@georgedorn1022 I'm aware of this, but how do you determine when you have the right amount of technology and know-how to start investigating a site?
@@christianpatriot7439 It's not a matter of the "right amount". It is a matter of "better" than what you had.
@@granthurlburt4062 But, wouldn't the technology and methodology be better tomorrow than it is today? So how many tomorrows should a site be put off limits?
I don't get it. Why schedule a site to be untouched? Doesn't government know that history decays? 🤔 or is that the real reason?😶
Archaeological remains don't decay sitting in the ground. It is very expensive to mount a full-scale archaeological excavation. These three day investigations are just sorties. There are many more valuable sites to be excavated than there are funds to excavate all. These are the real reasons.
First aired March 3, 2002.
The Worcs County Archaeologist is a petty bureaucrat who seems to love exercising his little bit of power. He wants to have the Time Team provide the ammunition to strengthen his position by having the site restricted but doesn't want to let them dig anything for fear that they will diminish "his" pristine site.
The man is an anal egomaniac. He doesn't want real clarity. Doesn't want to "share the glory".
He's a jobsworth of the worst category.
Please try to understand that the man from Worcs. County is just trying to give guidance as well as make sure that not too much of the archaeology is destroyed in enthusiastic digging up of the past. He has to follow rules and guidelines himself to do his work but without being unreasonable to the Time Team.
There are many instances in these programmes when previous era diggers were careless about site preservation and recording finds with inaccurate or no location details.
Give the man a break as he is human and therefore not perfect just like the rest of us. His organisation wants to make sure that we can still discover and learn from future physical investigations for many years to come.
They planning on digging it up for a graveyard but the one dumbass is worried about “disturbing the sight” 🤣😂🤣😂
I really like Francis Pryor. I have read his Britain BC and Britain AD.
Difficult to work with such a tight as- govt. employee.
Theyre happy to tax the dickens out of you and import foreigners but dont you dare dig too big a hole with that shovel!🙄
english heritage are a bunch of twats they know fall about archaeology failed all in uni,
Unless we tax it first!!!!!@@THINKincessantly
cracking cabbages grommit.
Oh Malcom, control issues much.
Yeah seriously
My cousin Throckmorton the skateboarder could shred this archeology
yeah saw the video, dude can skate
This prissy guy who is obsessed with disturbing the site is holding the entire project back with his super conservative attitude. They have incredible geophysics yet he wants to dig in the least promising sites. Isn’t the entire point to get the most evidence so that they can properly have it registered as a historical site?
Francis has one hell of an imagination.
Here in 2022… 🦶 🐄 👄
I would enjoy liveing in those days, where a man was worth his salt, gold, and what have you...
Have fun with no anesthetics or antibiotics, and the whole "if you don't find food...you don't eat" thing!
ah yes my cousin throckmorton
Tony Robinson is an owl
Did you try and have me sectioned??
I have a problem with Dr. Pryor's method of explanation. For example, he had to persuade a field archeologist that there were wheel tracks in the dirt (she obviously didn't see them). The good doctor is making assumptions all over the place. I just don't buy most of his explanations.
i agree with you there and if he dosnt know its always the fall back answer its ritual
He's an idiot, just making up what he wants to see. If nobody else can see it, it's there.
Francis is in a rut!
Steve Harris He's the type of archaeologist they warn students against. He makes conclusions and then shoves the evidence to fit it. Sometimes, in episodes where he's got it wrong, he'll get upset, annoyed etc when they point it out and you can just see him stew on the evidence not supporting his reality
+Steve Harris He indeed seems to jump to conclusions and then is very hard to persuade from them. Part of that could be the TV editing though.
This malcolm guy needs to be quiet and stay out of the way. Cant learn much from digging outside the fort as much as u can learn from the inside.
It really annoys me, Discovery Channel hi jacking Time Team, and not giving any credit to Channel 4, who were the real publishers. Also varios people have given credit to the BBC. Please get your facts straight
Discovery bought the rights to show the episodes. Settle down.
TELEGRAPH POLE DOWN!!!! Lol lol lol 😂
Like Tony he always asks before coming in a ladies trench . . .
That's because they yelled and screamed at him in the first two episodes TO NEVER ENTER A DITCH WITHOUT ASKING FIRST. He doesn't know what he's stepping on, and he could damage the archeology.
Objective Observer That whooshed on you a bit.
@@asticou04 I've watched these particular vids for years now. I can't count the number of seemingly silly questions from folks, who stumbled in on one particular vid, and have not seen all the earlier vids.
I prefer to not be infantile, like the egotistical millenials, who jump at the opportunity to be intolerant, rude and obnoxious, by trying to make themselves look better while belittling complete stranger for not knowing the entire history of a show, the poor soul just discovered.
Fna, fna...
@@asticou04 hehe
Very good. But I wish someone could say (Geo)Physics, before I Fizzle out! And its a Noun, relating to the technology, not the people/team that do it.
Sometimes I wonder if it is worth Digging when those 'Protectors' keep pushing back... IMHO THEY need to do the digging... Frustrating
Bit of stuff between Mick n Jackie wahay
Can't stop laughing at "Piddle Brook" maybe it's an American thing... is "piddle" not a slang term for "urine" in the UK? in the US that'd be like saying "Pee Brook" or "Piss Brook"
Like Piddletrenthide on the river Piddle in Dorset.
Better than "Shit Brook"
@@Tigermarly1Mick did refer to a "Shit Brook" in another episode. Can't remember which one.
@deborahparham3783 I can't remember exactly which episode either. But it was Hilarious.
Malcolm didn’t want them to dig up the best archaeology because he wanted him or his buddies to find the the best finds so they would get credit
Nonsense. It is very expensive to conduct a careful dig and it also requires a lot of preparation. It's not a matter of the "best finds". It is his job to be careful and ensure that nothing is destryed by hasty activity The remains arent going anywhere. What do you mean "best"? He is paid to protect archaeological resources. Do you think he gets paid for "finding the best archaology with his buddies"?
Francis is seeing things.
Ain't Jacqui a babe!
Sorry but if you follow Malcolm's plan then you might as well not do anything. In archeology you have to destroy to learn and move forward. Doing so conservatively is different than always going around or not doing it at all.
Simply not true. These guys have only three days. It takes far longer to conduct a detailed investigation, and is far more expensive to mount. He is in a responsible position and is actually both well-trained and experienced. There's actually a good chance he knows what he's doing!
Also they do leave detailed records of their dig and I believe I read that their data is accessible to university students in the UK, or archeology effort to continue the dig more in depth. This show has found many cool things and integral in getting sites protected to be studied later.