I have the same bike, I ended up putting on a pair of KYB’s made for the Xtrainer by a company-in Canada and love it. Also added a SmartCarb. Best bike I ever had.
Thank you for giving this an actual review of real world riding, not a snotty review of keyboard warriors repeating what they've heard and rich guys who race MX or XC. Its the modern KDX! Its the perfect single track bike for guys who just want to ride, not race. Plush suspension and smooth torque allow you to focus on riding and technique, not fighting the bike. I rode a friend of mine's on rocky, root single track and was seriously impressed. I just swapped back to dual sport for awhile, but If i ever want to single track only again Im buying a new one immediately.
@@thomasknapp7236 Buying a ridiculously over priced bike with outsourced imported hard to get parts is a brain dead move for a weekend rider. Id stick with a KDX 100x over vs buying one of those
@@alexj.burroughs6528 had a bunch. Bought a '18 klx250 for a second time after owning one years ago. Reliable, easy to mod. Still handle moderate single track and comfortable for 100 miles of traveling when necessary. The plated dirt bike "dual sports" I am not a fan of after having a few
I picked one up for my wife when she was ready to upgrade from her KLX140G. I've been very impressed with it so far. It has more low end torque than my KTM300 off idle. Very fun bike to ride.
Thanks for an unbiased view of the suspension. I ride my 2022 xtrainer very hard and have loved the suspension from day one. It is even fun on the streets!
You’re welcome! Its good to hear from someone who feels the same way as I do about the suspension! I really like the idea of making this bike street legal 👍🏻
Just found a 22 Xtrainer with 1.6 hours on it , and i impulse bought it without checking anything. Seeing this review makes me feel good about the purchase. Im looking forward to the upcoming year to ride it myself. My skills have been declining and im hoping the lower seat height may help.
Great vid! Very well done. I have a 2023 XTrainer. The bike really is fantastic. Stock suspension really does a great job on the single track. I love this bike on all the single track I ride in AZ. Well done Beta!
A really well structured review, great footage combined with well thought out comments. Brands should give you more bikes to review, we need more of this and less of those that regurgitate what others are saying.
Thanks for the great review! I have been thinking about getting this bike for a while. I live in Emmett and just want to putt around at the cycle park and hit some single track that isn't too crazy mostly looking for hunting spots. The only bike I have had is an 05 crf250r when I was 21 and rode it way beyond my abilities. I am now 39 and just want a smooth riding bike with enough power. I think it will be this or the crf250f.
Hey, late to comment, but really appreciate the real world review on the X trainer. The X trainer is one of the best kept secrets out there. It's a true woods weapon, with the smaller chassis and excellent power delivery characteristics. Love to see more footage!
I just put a deposit on a 2024 xtrainer. This was a great review and really reassured my decision. I was initially going to get a 200RR but I wanted the lower seat height and potential for more power in the x. Over the 200.
Love your channel I’m here in Mid Missouri right a Kawasaki kdx200 I’ve been really looking at the Veda X trainer and you almost totally sold me on this bike also I want to comment I love your video Of the scenery when you ride is a 10 out of 10 your video quality is top notch also I’m 65 years old and ride with my son he has a beta250rr keep up the good work always check in your new videos
Nice review. I have a 2018 300rr, but would consider this version down the road. This bike has always gotten the "expert" riders to claim the suspension is soft & it lacks top end. Probably true to a point, but like you note I think it would work really well for many trail riders over a variety of rocky & typical single track trails.
I blasted through the whoops on this bike and it handled it great. Definitely needs a couple clicks stiffer for that kind fo riding but overall it was great.
Oh and also, I had the same trouble with my beta 500 RRS Sachs suspension. It deflected off everything and just about killed me everywhere I went until I made some adjustments to it.
@@hello-dirt Me too...I noticed that when you were setting up the suspension, if you stood on it and measured the sag, it would take a couple of minutes for the fork to go to full extension after you'd stepped off it. I've backed of the damping and screwed down the spring, but I think I need to do more of both TBH.
I have a 2023 and it’s the best trail bike I’ve ever rode if you’re thinking about getting 100% no regrets here only complaint is the seat is pretty stiff
Really great review, I keep coming back to these after being drawn to the BIG ORANGE... but the price on these is amazing for a 300cc. And I'm not a pro, barely amateur (road rider though) haha so this should be perfect! Also I'm a light guy as well. This is looking more attractive by the day.
So many things lol This is my exact bike I decided to start with. Electronics you say are more reliable lol Mine had a bad wire harness from the factory so after waiting 8 months to get my bike it started about 6 times then nothing. Johnny got it straightened out in a week kudos to him but wow. Suspension; well I almost sold the bike I hated it so much but thankfully I talked myself into having AMP put a Lucky cartridge and re valve in. Now it's a totally different machine and I love it. Fuel economy; the most I've got out of a tank was 52mi. One of the reasons I bought the bike was the oil injection but after seeing so many guys have problems with it I deleted it immediately and haven't looked back. Plastics break off if you look at them wrong and don't strap down with the pegs they will bend like a banana hahaha ask me how I know. Man I could go on with the love hate relationship but you get the idea. I'm gonna keep it and ride it but will probably go for and RR next year.
I’m assuming you thought the suspension was too soft - which I agree with for desert stuff but I didn’t think it was so soft I couldn’t adjust it to feel better. It felt great to me. This bike honestly felt like cheating when taken on hard trails. I took that electronics a bit straight from data. They said they revised the wiring locations, redid the connectors, and made it more reliable. That’s pretty crappy that you had issues with your wiring so fast! I’m glad you have a good dealer support in Emmett though! Johnny is the man. With plastic durability I just think you need to quit cartwheeling lol.
@@RacerRed actually the suspension was really unpredictable and it would deflect so much it just wore me out as for the cartwheeling I'm doing a lot better lol.
Thanks a lot Carls for your impressions about the xtrainer 22 .I have one .Im very happy .Only I thinking about the echapement change just for a little bit more power
I've got one...use it for trail riding (green lanes here in the UK) and the terrible English sport of Long Distance Trials. They are as good as you say, but you do need to set the fork properly. Love the filming and the scenery...and your comments are spot on!
Thanks for sharing, and thanks for the comment. I think the fork definitely needs some adjustment, but nothing major. I am really fortunate to live in an area with really nice mountain trails! It makes riding motorcycles a lot of fun.
Great review. The most important information, and aesthetically pleasing. How would this bike compare to a Ktm 250 xcf? I have this bike and like it, but struggle in tighter, steeper terrain. Would the Beta be more confidence inspiring?
Great review! I just ordered a Mini SE drone...you inspired me to get one by your footage :) So, what app/software do you use to get your drone to "follow" you? Also, do you just put your phone/remote in your backpack?
Hey, I know that this is a late comment but I was wondering 6 foot and I weigh 190 pounds. Do you think this bike is too small for me? Should I go for the 200 RR?
I would go for the 300rr if i were you. This bike kinda made my lower back sore and I’m 5’10. The 200rr would feel under powered i think but you could try it!
@@RacerRed oh well, this is gonna be my first dirtbike so I think I’ll stay clear from the 300 RR, i’ve been researching for a while, and I always keep coming back to the yz250fx what do you think about it?
The only concern I have about this bike is that it is made in Italy. A lot of products from Italy are not known for their reliability. And I've heard of main bearing problems, etc. Is any of this a concern if I get one?
I would say there’s a concern with any bike, although main bearing problems were resolved. They had a quality control issue with that in like 2017 but haven’t had too many issues since that I know of. It’s front brake is grabby and so is the clutch. The suspension is a limitation if you go really hard. Those are the negatives i can think of.
As a shorter rider I feel like this is the perfect bike for me. I’m a moto guy so I’m wondering if it could be used as moto? Or should I go with the RR?
I would not use this bike for moto unless you are at a beginner level and just need something to learn on. This bike is great for all skill levels on tight trails, but not a great race platform at high speeds.
I see you riding at altitude. Since it is carburetted engine, how does it support high altitudes and big elevation changes ? Riding from 1000fr to over 5800 ft? I am in region where trails are mostly over 2000ft going up to almost 6.
@@RacerRed That would be interesting. The TE250 is and awesome looking bike. Looks like 2017 was one of of the lightest years, depending on what year yours is, my guess is it comes out 5 to 12 + - lbs heavier, pretty comparable. The '17 appears to be 225 dry, other years; 230+ .
Pretty cool review! Your content is legit. I didn't even know this brand existed and now I want one haha. Who sells these new, how do you even get one?
Thanks! Take a trip to Gem County Motorsports in Emmett Idaho! They have some of the most legit bikes - Beta(Italian made), Sherco (French made), and some sweet used ones as well.
That’s tough, but The XTrainer for a few reasons. 1:) it’s engine is versatile enough to do enduro competition. 2:) The seat height is lower. 3:) it’s less expensive
I have been curious about the X Trainer for while. I love my 200RR, but wouldn’t mind a little extra bark without having to get a taller bike. The X looks right at home on single track.
The XTrainer is definitely a solid option. I would definitely feel comfortable having it as my only trail bike. It doesn’t feel as light as the 200rr just because of the 300cc engine characteristics, and centrifugal weight moving around. It’s light though.
@@davidb9323 how tall are you, how much do you weight, what type of terrain do you ride (tight technical rocky stuff or more fast and opened trails)? And how many hours/ years of experience do you have? I tried a lot of bikes and been riding for some years so i may help :)
@@justaghost3285 I have experience on the road with starting with a Ninja 500 15 years ago and now a R1250 GSA. I’ve been able to ride about 6 times in the woods on my 350 and it’s been pretty miserable when it comes to hill climbs, sand, obstacles, whoops, holes, etc. I would like to find a smaller bike that won’t gas me in the woods. I’m 5’11 220lbs
@@davidb9323 I would 100% pick a Beta 300 rr two strokes. The suspension on the xt is too soft for your weight, and you are not short. The 300s are really torquey but smooth on the low rpms, and you can also tune the powervalve easily if you want less hit going up in the rpms. They feel really really light, really hard to stall and have all the power you’ll ever need. Betas are also 3 cm shorter on the seat compared to ktms and huskys! If you want less low end torque, get the 250 but keep in mind you have to be less lazy with the cluch and use gears more.
I own a 2022 Xtrainer, bought new. Less than 1 year old, CDI pin controlling oil injection failed, causing the engine to seize. My local dealer made no mention that this is a known issue and did repairs. After doing research, Beta warranted the work. My local dealer was upset. Probable because he couldn’t charge me full price of repairs. Beta’s are also known for crank bearing failures. Beware!
I have heard of older models having crank bearing issues, but so far it seems like the newer ones have been fixed. Sorry to hear you had oil injection failure! that sounds pretty lame.
Great review, and my favorite part is that you didn't call this a 'Play bike' or a girls bike, which it is neither. You'd think that the arrogant, ostentatious, reviewers that use those terms for this bike taught Graham Jarvis and Billy Bolt to ride😂. The wheel base is 1/4'' shorter (lol) than that of the big 4 Japnez builders bikes, and the weight is close to the same.
Thank you! This bike is definitely a serious bike. I think people just need to ride one. People really don’t need the peak power output that modern 300’s are making and they certainly don’t need the top notch suspension setup for riding trails. People act like they are supercross stars when talking about their suspension but I’m pretty sure they just need to stand up off the seat more. Good suspension won’t ever be good enough for a rider who’s always sitting down.
I agree with everything except about the suspension. I feel like it is super sketch in slow rocky terrain and in anything 3rd gear and above. We ride super slow tech 90% of the time and on steep downhills I had significant brake dive. Love the bike and maybe the 2022 model suspension is better, hopefully. I just got my fork resprung and revalved by AMP suspension in Montana and I can already feel a great improvement. More to come.
@@RacerRed Exactly, this bike is meant to be ridden in the gnarly stuff. The fork was sus though. Feels much, much better with the AMP re-valve/spring.
It’s sure you don’t know what you’re talking about. You should ride one and then give your opinion. I’ve own two of them and they’re very capable bikes and very reliable too.
I am not expert or pro but do not like the suspension. It is somewhat better after we went with thicker shock oil. We ride hard enduro and woods with lots of rocks and big hits. The xTrainer is my sons bike. He is still learning a lot and it is ok for him. I am 59 yo and about 170# with gear on. I can and do bottom out the suspension every time I ride the xTrainer. Just jumping on the pegs hard compresses it a lot. (with no rebound adjustment lol) I do like the bike overall and the suspension is the only weakness. It is not a big deal especially if you are a true novice, weigh more and/or are one of the people who will spend another $2K on suspension upgrades just because. (heavier people will have to do some spring work. (It rides like a loaf of white bread compared to my Sherco) If you are going to do suspension work it is a great starting point as your going to replace everything and the bike is $2K to $3k less than other 300 2T.
I was able to hit the whoops pretty hard with this bike without bottoming and if i wanted to stiffin the fork a bit i could just play with the compression settings. I didn't feel that the suspension was even lacking much at all. I thought the benefit of being able to touch the ground easier was worth losing an inch of travel. I felt a little more like those extremely tall hard enduro riders.
Completely agree with that feedback. I have an older model (2017) and the suspension was outright dangerous for any kind of fast or rocky riding. With the grabby front brake this became even worse. Beta Boano factory suspension and RR exhaust changed it completely and it worked quite well for racing exterme enduro with it's smaller frame and torquey engine
I have the same bike, I ended up putting on a pair of KYB’s made for the Xtrainer by a company-in Canada and love it. Also added a SmartCarb. Best bike I ever had.
Thank you for giving this an actual review of real world riding, not a snotty review of keyboard warriors repeating what they've heard and rich guys who race MX or XC. Its the modern KDX! Its the perfect single track bike for guys who just want to ride, not race. Plush suspension and smooth torque allow you to focus on riding and technique, not fighting the bike. I rode a friend of mine's on rocky, root single track and was seriously impressed. I just swapped back to dual sport for awhile, but If i ever want to single track only again Im buying a new one immediately.
You'r welcome! I went in to this review pretending like i hadn't heard negatives or positives about the bike. I really liked most things about it.
Eh. Buy a sherco or a TM and grow into it. I rode the xtrainer for a while. It's good, but you'll outgrow it fast
What dual sport do you have? Thats funny because I ride dual sport but my friend has 2 beta x trainers and I get to ride one
@@thomasknapp7236 Buying a ridiculously over priced bike with outsourced imported hard to get parts is a brain dead move for a weekend rider. Id stick with a KDX 100x over vs buying one of those
@@alexj.burroughs6528 had a bunch. Bought a '18 klx250 for a second time after owning one years ago. Reliable, easy to mod. Still handle moderate single track and comfortable for 100 miles of traveling when necessary. The plated dirt bike "dual sports" I am not a fan of after having a few
Came for the bike, stayed for the landscape.
I'm glad you stayed! The scenery here in idaho is fantastic.
I picked one up for my wife when she was ready to upgrade from her KLX140G. I've been very impressed with it so far. It has more low end torque than my KTM300 off idle. Very fun bike to ride.
They have great torque! Probably the easiest to ride enduro I have been on.
By far the best review on this bike yet! Awesome job Sir!
That means a lot, Thanks! I really appreciate the kind words.
Really good review. You hit on a lot of points, address rumored issues and why you think it rides well. Nice bike and great video.
Yes a real review keep up the good work
Thanks for an unbiased view of the suspension. I ride my 2022 xtrainer very hard and have loved the suspension from day one. It is even fun on the streets!
You’re welcome! Its good to hear from someone who feels the same way as I do about the suspension! I really like the idea of making this bike street legal 👍🏻
Great review on the bike without saying all the stupid stuff
@@donproper3632 thank you
Awesome review! Not just because I agree with you as a Beta Motorcycle Dealer, but it's very well produced! Great Job!
Just found a 22 Xtrainer with 1.6 hours on it , and i impulse bought it without checking anything. Seeing this review makes me feel good about the purchase. Im looking forward to the upcoming year to ride it myself. My skills have been declining and im hoping the lower seat height may help.
Great vid! Very well done. I have a 2023 XTrainer. The bike really is fantastic. Stock suspension really does a great job on the single track. I love this bike on all the single track I ride in AZ. Well done Beta!
A friendly question, how was your experience level before you bought the bike
@@nickg2431 Just an average trail rider. Nothing fancy.
@@JamesMargolis79 thanks happy trails!
A really well structured review, great footage combined with well thought out comments.
Brands should give you more bikes to review, we need more of this and less of those that regurgitate what others are saying.
They are great bikes , they are also beginner/ intermediate bikes but so are 99% of riders
Thanks for the great review! I have been thinking about getting this bike for a while. I live in Emmett and just want to putt around at the cycle park and hit some single track that isn't too crazy mostly looking for hunting spots. The only bike I have had is an 05 crf250r when I was 21 and rode it way beyond my abilities. I am now 39 and just want a smooth riding bike with enough power. I think it will be this or the crf250f.
Thanks for a great, real-world review. I'm sure racing's amazing, but some of us just ride for the joy of the trail.
Couldn't agree more! I really enjoy racing, but i dont do it for a living. I would much rather buy a bike that i will have fun on.
Amazing video, bike & landscape!
Fantastic review, nicely done, made me decide, thanks a lot!
You're very lucky to have such a cool place to ride.
Great review and great video quality! Love the drone work.
Thanks for the review!
You’re welcome!
Hey, late to comment, but really appreciate the real world review on the X trainer.
The X trainer is one of the best kept secrets out there. It's a true woods weapon, with the smaller chassis and excellent power delivery characteristics.
Love to see more footage!
I appreciate the comment! This bike is really really good for the woods riding situations for sure. I was really impressed.
I just put a deposit on a 2024 xtrainer. This was a great review and really reassured my decision. I was initially going to get a 200RR but I wanted the lower seat height and potential for more power in the x. Over the 200.
@@OdysseyOffroad I hope you like it! Unless you are doing super fast riding or motocross I think you’ll love the 300
@@RacerRed ty! Again great review!
Love your channel I’m here in Mid Missouri right a Kawasaki kdx200 I’ve been really looking at the Veda X trainer and you almost totally sold me on this bike also I want to comment I love your video Of the scenery when you ride is a 10 out of 10 your video quality is top notch also I’m 65 years old and ride with my son he has a beta250rr keep up the good work always check in your new videos
I'm always happy to hear that people watch and enjoy my content! You won't be disappointed with this bike. It's a really great motorcycle.
Nice review. I have a 2018 300rr, but would consider this version down the road. This bike has always gotten the "expert" riders to claim the suspension is soft & it lacks top end. Probably true to a point, but like you note I think it would work really well for many trail riders over a variety of rocky & typical single track trails.
I blasted through the whoops on this bike and it handled it great. Definitely needs a couple clicks stiffer for that kind fo riding but overall it was great.
These pro riders should reveal their weight. If they're a bit on the chunky side then yeah, maybe they need more suspension.
What year were the upgrades made 2022 or earlier ?
Shocked to hear positives regarding the suspension. I found the fork deflects off everything
That’s definitely the common opinion. Mostly that it’s too soft, actually. I found that it handled everything really well.
Oh and also, I had the same trouble with my beta 500 RRS Sachs suspension. It deflected off everything and just about killed me everywhere I went until I made some adjustments to it.
Mine did on break in but is fine now
Mine was much better once I reduced the rebound. It was horrible before that small adjustment.
@@hello-dirt Me too...I noticed that when you were setting up the suspension, if you stood on it and measured the sag, it would take a couple of minutes for the fork to go to full extension after you'd stepped off it.
I've backed of the damping and screwed down the spring, but I think I need to do more of both TBH.
216 dry weight, right? I think you mentioned 216 wet. I think its 238 wet. I wish it was 216 wet. Nice review, thank you.
I have a 2023 and it’s the best trail bike I’ve ever rode if you’re thinking about getting 100% no regrets here only complaint is the seat is pretty stiff
well done. What a nice review, I have a 2018 300RR. Love the suspensions. Thanks. Deserved a subscription
Thanks for the sub and the comment! I doubt the RR feels much like the XTrainer but I definitely liked the XTrainer a lot.
Really great review, I keep coming back to these after being drawn to the BIG ORANGE... but the price on these is amazing for a 300cc. And I'm not a pro, barely amateur (road rider though) haha so this should be perfect! Also I'm a light guy as well. This is looking more attractive by the day.
I wouldn’t hesitate if you aren’t real tall. If you’re pretty tall you might want a full sized 300 Beta like the RR model
@@RacerRed I'm about an average 6 foot 175lb dude tbh.
@@baronburgamot243 that’s a bit tall. In the 6 foot range this bike will hunch you too much
Ah ya reckon? dang it looks perfect for what I want and at like 2k less than the equivalent 300 KTM or Husqy@@RacerRed
So many things lol This is my exact bike I decided to start with. Electronics you say are more reliable lol Mine had a bad wire harness from the factory so after waiting 8 months to get my bike it started about 6 times then nothing. Johnny got it straightened out in a week kudos to him but wow. Suspension; well I almost sold the bike I hated it so much but thankfully I talked myself into having AMP put a Lucky cartridge and re valve in. Now it's a totally different machine and I love it. Fuel economy; the most I've got out of a tank was 52mi. One of the reasons I bought the bike was the oil injection but after seeing so many guys have problems with it I deleted it immediately and haven't looked back. Plastics break off if you look at them wrong and don't strap down with the pegs they will bend like a banana hahaha ask me how I know. Man I could go on with the love hate relationship but you get the idea. I'm gonna keep it and ride it but will probably go for and RR next year.
I’m assuming you thought the suspension was too soft - which I agree with for desert stuff but I didn’t think it was so soft I couldn’t adjust it to feel better. It felt great to me. This bike honestly felt like cheating when taken on hard trails.
I took that electronics a bit straight from data. They said they revised the wiring locations, redid the connectors, and made it more reliable. That’s pretty crappy that you had issues with your wiring so fast! I’m glad you have a good dealer support in Emmett though! Johnny is the man.
With plastic durability I just think you need to quit cartwheeling lol.
@@RacerRed actually the suspension was really unpredictable and it would deflect so much it just wore me out as for the cartwheeling I'm doing a lot better lol.
Thanks a lot Carls for your impressions about the xtrainer 22 .I have one .Im very happy .Only I thinking about the echapement change just for a little bit more power
It’s an excellent bike for single track for sure. I might want more power out of one if I had one as well
Which drone do you have and is it on follow mode or is someone controlling it? That obstacle avoidance whille still tracking you is amazing.
Really fun video. Where are you riding?
Where was this filmed? I would love to ride that area.
I've got one...use it for trail riding (green lanes here in the UK) and the terrible English sport of Long Distance Trials.
They are as good as you say, but you do need to set the fork properly.
Love the filming and the scenery...and your comments are spot on!
Thanks for sharing, and thanks for the comment. I think the fork definitely needs some adjustment, but nothing major. I am really fortunate to live in an area with really nice mountain trails! It makes riding motorcycles a lot of fun.
best review I've seen, riding is fun but listening to all the people talk their crap is getting very old.....u have my vote! super cool bike!!
The suspension is way better than my k.TM 300 for Rocky single track.Not as good as high speed but way better in the tight stuff
Great review. The most important information, and aesthetically pleasing. How would this bike compare to a Ktm 250 xcf? I have this bike and like it, but struggle in tighter, steeper terrain. Would the Beta be more confidence inspiring?
The Beta would be the most confidence inspiring bike I could think of for tight single track, especially for a beginner. Thanks for the kind words!
Where are you riding? That place looks awesome
Great review thanks
Thank you, Great review, it really covered it all.
Thanks for taking the time to comment on it!
Great review! I just ordered a Mini SE drone...you inspired me to get one by your footage :) So, what app/software do you use to get your drone to "follow" you? Also, do you just put your phone/remote in your backpack?
That drone is awesome for landscape scenery shots! I dont use DJI for the follow me footage.
@@RacerRed Are you still using the Mavic Pro 4k Drone for your follow-me footage?
What about maintenance and reliability??
Any known issues with the electronic oil injection like all the TPI bikes have had?
we have a 2020 KTM 300 with TPI and it has over 200 hours and its been perfect.
How tall are you? I'm 5'10 and worried the seat height would be too low.
Great review.
This bike is in my top 4 for spring. How reliable are they compared to the YZ?
Plenty reliable. If you want reliable the YZ cant be beat though. Parts are cheap for a YAMAHA
Those trails looks amazing, where is that?
Great insight into what looks to be a great bike. Thanks you.
Thanks for taking the time to comment! This bike is worth every penny.
As always a great video and love the music 👍👍
I appreciate the great comment!
Hey, I know that this is a late comment but I was wondering 6 foot and I weigh 190 pounds. Do you think this bike is too small for me? Should I go for the 200 RR?
I would go for the 300rr if i were you. This bike kinda made my lower back sore and I’m 5’10. The 200rr would feel under powered i think but you could try it!
@@RacerRed oh well, this is gonna be my first dirtbike so I think I’ll stay clear from the 300 RR, i’ve been researching for a while, and I always keep coming back to the yz250fx what do you think about it?
Great review, I’ve got two of these; great bike for just about anyone!
Quick question what drone are you using as well as mic setup?
Thanks
I will have to go more in depth than would I can do right now on my phone. Shoot me an email or message me on instagram
how does this bike in stock form run at altitude ?
@@jwvspupsv1679 ran good for me
Please don't have music playing when you're talking. it's really distracting. Other than that great video.
The only concern I have about this bike is that it is made in Italy. A lot of products from Italy are not known for their reliability. And I've heard of main bearing problems, etc. Is any of this a concern if I get one?
I would say there’s a concern with any bike, although main bearing problems were resolved. They had a quality control issue with that in like 2017 but haven’t had too many issues since that I know of.
It’s front brake is grabby and so is the clutch. The suspension is a limitation if you go really hard. Those are the negatives i can think of.
as most of you know, if you want some more high revs zip then remove the powervalve spacer and ease off the powervalve spring adjustment.
and get the jetting spot on!
Good to know! I would probably try to squeeze more power out of it if I got one.
My aunt and uncle owned some property in Cambridge on the property was a whole town blacksmith a hotel a bar it was pretty cool!
Thats cool. I like that area a lot.
Do you think a beta xtrainer like this would be a good upgrade from a crf250f?
Probably not as reliable or cheap on maintenance but definitely higher performance
I have the same bike and I love it.
As a shorter rider I feel like this is the perfect bike for me. I’m a moto guy so I’m wondering if it could be used as moto? Or should I go with the RR?
I would not use this bike for moto unless you are at a beginner level and just need something to learn on. This bike is great for all skill levels on tight trails, but not a great race platform at high speeds.
I see you riding at altitude. Since it is carburetted engine, how does it support high altitudes and big elevation changes ? Riding from 1000fr to over 5800 ft? I am in region where trails are mostly over 2000ft going up to almost 6.
The Carb seemed to handle elevation change well. I didn’t notice really any change as I climbed.
@@RacerRed Thanks, that was my main worry compared to injection based engines.
I'm seeing a dry weight of 216lbs, not 'wet' .
So it could be 230-235 wet or curb weight.
Still a pretty light bike though.
That sounds about right, I have one and as I recall the manual shows 216 dry and 232 wet. Yes, it's very light and nimble.
@@captainamerica9353
232 wet is great.
Cool that you have this bike, I'd like
to get one down the road.
you could definitely be right. I wonder how it would compare to my TE250 "ready to ride" on a scale.
@@RacerRed That would be interesting.
The TE250 is and awesome looking
bike. Looks like 2017 was one of
of the lightest years, depending on
what year yours is, my guess is it
comes out 5 to 12 + - lbs heavier,
pretty comparable. The '17 appears to
be 225 dry, other years; 230+ .
My yz is 227 wet.
Pretty cool review! Your content is legit. I didn't even know this brand existed and now I want one haha. Who sells these new, how do you even get one?
Thanks! Take a trip to Gem County Motorsports in Emmett Idaho! They have some of the most legit bikes - Beta(Italian made), Sherco (French made), and some sweet used ones as well.
@@RacerRed will do. Always looking for some new shops, a lil underwhelmed in the game
Nice Review!
If you ever would want to do a review on a modified crf450L I'll lend you mine, I live in Star.
Thank you
@@jpezman1 I just might take you up on that. I would need to ride it for a few days, though. You'd have to be awful trusting of me lol.
So, if you could only have one. This or 200 RR?
That’s tough, but The XTrainer for a few reasons.
1:) it’s engine is versatile enough to do enduro competition.
2:) The seat height is lower.
3:) it’s less expensive
I have been curious about the X Trainer for while. I love my 200RR, but wouldn’t mind a little extra bark without having to get a taller bike. The X looks right at home on single track.
The XTrainer is definitely a solid option. I would definitely feel comfortable having it as my only trail bike. It doesn’t feel as light as the 200rr just because of the 300cc engine characteristics, and centrifugal weight moving around. It’s light though.
Coming from a Husky 350FE that rips my arms off which would be a better first trail bike ?
@@davidb9323 how tall are you, how much do you weight, what type of terrain do you ride (tight technical rocky stuff or more fast and opened trails)? And how many hours/ years of experience do you have? I tried a lot of bikes and been riding for some years so i may help :)
@@justaghost3285 I have experience on the road with starting with a Ninja 500 15 years ago and now a R1250 GSA. I’ve been able to ride about 6 times in the woods on my 350 and it’s been pretty miserable when it comes to hill climbs, sand, obstacles, whoops, holes, etc. I would like to find a smaller bike that won’t gas me in the woods. I’m 5’11 220lbs
@@davidb9323 I would 100% pick a Beta 300 rr two strokes. The suspension on the xt is too soft for your weight, and you are not short. The 300s are really torquey but smooth on the low rpms, and you can also tune the powervalve easily if you want less hit going up in the rpms. They feel really really light, really hard to stall and have all the power you’ll ever need. Betas are also 3 cm shorter on the seat compared to ktms and huskys! If you want less low end torque, get the 250 but keep in mind you have to be less lazy with the cluch and use gears more.
WHy do you keep letting off the throttle on the whoops????? Keep it pinned.
Hope to See you at the races!
The fuel injected on the bikes are fantastic, you leave a little torque on the table but the fuel economy is worth it.
not fuel injected. Has a 36mm Keihin carb
This bike has great oil injection, but it's using a 36mm keihen carb for the fuel.
That's right there still are carbureted, then you're getting really good fuel economy.
Well if you have issues you can send your suspension to CCS in Oroville California Joe will take care of you.
Yeah, if the suspension bothers you there is always an option.
How would this do in the sand?
Wouldn’t recommend as a dune bike but some normal sand stuff would be fine.
Sounds crisp!!
I own a 2022 Xtrainer, bought new. Less than 1 year old, CDI pin controlling oil injection failed, causing the engine to seize. My local dealer made no mention that this is a known issue and did repairs. After doing research, Beta warranted the work. My local dealer was upset. Probable because he couldn’t charge me full price of repairs. Beta’s are also known for crank bearing failures. Beware!
I have heard of older models having crank bearing issues, but so far it seems like the newer ones have been fixed. Sorry to hear you had oil injection failure! that sounds pretty lame.
Great review, and my favorite part is that you
didn't call this a 'Play bike' or a girls bike, which it
is neither. You'd think that the arrogant, ostentatious,
reviewers that use those terms for this bike taught
Graham Jarvis and Billy Bolt to ride😂.
The wheel base is 1/4'' shorter (lol) than that of
the big 4 Japnez builders bikes, and the weight is close to the same.
Thank you! This bike is definitely a serious bike. I think people just need to ride one. People really don’t need the peak power output that modern 300’s are making and they certainly don’t need the top notch suspension setup for riding trails. People act like they are supercross stars when talking about their suspension but I’m pretty sure they just need to stand up off the seat more. Good suspension won’t ever be good enough for a rider who’s always sitting down.
Thank you for not using the stupid term beginner bike that sounds like something when you're 9 years old and get a Briggs & Stratton mini bike
Just bought it . Hope is as good as you say it is! DANIELE FROM ITALY
Let me know!
Nice vid. Thx
Thanks for taking the time to comment!
You never said one thing wrong about it , makes it hard to believe this is honest review
It lacks power compared to a regular 300. It’s an honest review. Nobody paid me to do it.
I wanna
I agree with everything except about the suspension. I feel like it is super sketch in slow rocky terrain and in anything 3rd gear and above. We ride super slow tech 90% of the time and on steep downhills I had significant brake dive. Love the bike and maybe the 2022 model suspension is better, hopefully. I just got my fork resprung and revalved by AMP suspension in Montana and I can already feel a great improvement. More to come.
Glad to hear some feedback! The bike I rode felt great at all speeds. It bottomed easily but I’m not gonna desert race it anyway
@@RacerRed Exactly, this bike is meant to be ridden in the gnarly stuff. The fork was sus though. Feels much, much better with the AMP re-valve/spring.
I know this is petty but I don't like the multi color scheme.
Have you seen the 2023 models? You might like the solid red.
Love the colors of the 2023 model.
Ride
Those whoops were not deep enough.
Those whoops are pretty deep in person. As deep as most desert whoops I’ve run into.
Those things are sweet bikes for kids or women for sure.
Pshhht. Whatever you say
It’s sure you don’t know what you’re talking about. You should ride one and then give your opinion. I’ve own two of them and they’re very capable bikes and very reliable too.
I am not expert or pro but do not like the suspension. It is somewhat better after we went with thicker shock oil.
We ride hard enduro and woods with lots of rocks and big hits.
The xTrainer is my sons bike. He is still learning a lot and it is ok for him.
I am 59 yo and about 170# with gear on. I can and do bottom out the suspension every time I ride the xTrainer. Just jumping on the pegs hard compresses it a lot. (with no rebound adjustment lol)
I do like the bike overall and the suspension is the only weakness. It is not a big deal especially if you are a true novice, weigh more and/or are one of the people who will spend another $2K on suspension upgrades just because. (heavier people will have to do some spring work. (It rides like a loaf of white bread compared to my Sherco)
If you are going to do suspension work it is a great starting point as your going to replace everything and the bike is $2K to $3k less than other 300 2T.
I was able to hit the whoops pretty hard with this bike without bottoming and if i wanted to stiffin the fork a bit i could just play with the compression settings. I didn't feel that the suspension was even lacking much at all. I thought the benefit of being able to touch the ground easier was worth losing an inch of travel. I felt a little more like those extremely tall hard enduro riders.
Completely agree with that feedback. I have an older model (2017) and the suspension was outright dangerous for any kind of fast or rocky riding. With the grabby front brake this became even worse. Beta Boano factory suspension and RR exhaust changed it completely and it worked quite well for racing exterme enduro with it's smaller frame and torquey engine
Cluch is terribile, it' not dosable only 1cm of control
I noticed, but that’s all Betas. It’s easily fixed.
@@RacerRed How do you fix it?