Bruhhh I'm lost for words rn, this is probably the maddest and craziest performance I've seen on a voith MMC especially on these go ahead ones too and I thought these things had ISA! Sheesh man sick video you defo made history!
@LondonBuses70 Oh damn ok, seems like Putney actually got common sense for once and its good they removed the ISA on those MMCs and I think with the EHs and WHVs too! Yeah man I really need a good 533 driver lol everytime they just stick to the limit and it would be nice getting your bus one day since I used to be local to putney routes.
My ears can't comprehend to this beauty i've heard.... 😍😍1:53, 2:22 and 9:45 can't make me stop watching! Everytime i see a Frozzles video, instant click :) Other then that, I've loved the video and i thought GAL E200 MMC Voiths were so terrible until this video just re-fixed my mind about them! They seem better than my YX69s at RR which are allocated on the 364 from my view, you're just so talented man i love watching your videos too much! Should reach to 1,000 subs right now tbf!
Too good man! Thanks for watching bro I appreciate everything! The YX69s are pretty much the same as the YW19s, just depends on how they’re driven cos as far I know they both have the same setups 👍🏾
Wow! I knew 533 drivers were fast with Metroline but I didn’t think these GAL mmcs had it in them! It’s giving that similar kickdown vibe to the Alison’s as well as the revs!!
Oh yeah definitely, it’s producing even higher revs than the Allisons, they can only do 2600rpm, these can do 2800rpm! I do wish I caught this route when it was with Metroline though, them DEs seemed nice!
Huh... We don't get these kinds of revs in any short routes on 209, 378 or 533. But even with the jerky revs, how did the YW19-registered E200 MMC's were able to have a "kickdown"? I don't see the YX69-registed buses from River Road have any of those near my location. Other than that, it's amazing to catch this kind of bus to have "kickdowns" enabled, especially the beautiful deceleration sound it makes!
Can make buses do that by constantly tapping the accelarator to the floor very quickly Used to do it on scania buses we had would make go like a rocket 😂
@@localboys7449 scania L94,although we had 1 from another company on loan and it wouldnt doit like theothers so might be which way they set them up or how harsh on rev limiters etc
Decent man, they need to acc make Voith buses hold gears though not just the Allison tings. Did you ask the driver to do this or did he just randomly do it and you got lucky
I can't achieve this with the 6.7litre Voith-fitted ones I drive. Normally, the throttle-tapping trick works best with the old ZF Ecomat boxes. I can make our ex-London 2009 E400s hit the limiter in every gear! 🤣
@@Frozzles The only way I can get the Voith to "flip out" is by heel-tapping the brake just as it changes up (our change-up really low) and then it sometimes flips out and unlocks the torque converter so that the engine screams for a few seconds before it settles down.
These have a very basic, “Eco” style mode when it comes to SensoTop just like it is with most other MMCs, but yeah when treated like this they go berserk regardless! 😮💨😮💨
Yeah, it’s common with the new Euro 6 exhaust system that ADL use. It’s basically the airflow passing through the turbo, often heard when the throttle is released and as you said, during gear changes… from time to time.
@@Frozzles yeah they have to force it that's what I mean. I've heard drivers do it with them mainly when turning the bus, btw what's the purpose of sensotop and can you tweak it?
Works just like TopoDyn, increases shifting points on higher gradients or heavy load, and decreases shifting points on the opposite, to improve fuel economy. I assume it has different modes just like TopoDyn does yeah
These E200MMCs have a lot of power to them, its always satisfying when a driver makes use of it
Facts
Bruhhh I'm lost for words rn, this is probably the maddest and craziest performance I've seen on a voith MMC especially on these go ahead ones too and I thought these things had ISA! Sheesh man sick video you defo made history!
It definitely is, ISA seems non-existent with them anymore👀
Much appreciated!
@LondonBuses70 Oh damn ok, seems like Putney actually got common sense for once and its good they removed the ISA on those MMCs and I think with the EHs and WHVs too! Yeah man I really need a good 533 driver lol everytime they just stick to the limit and it would be nice getting your bus one day since I used to be local to putney routes.
@LondonBuses70 yeah well tbh those 39 WSs are a bit shit lol and it won't surprise me that those 265 electrics will get them as well
IM DOWN FOR THE MADDEST HIGH SPEED!
This is why I love mmcs🤩
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My ears can't comprehend to this beauty i've heard.... 😍😍1:53, 2:22 and 9:45 can't make me stop watching! Everytime i see a Frozzles video, instant click :)
Other then that, I've loved the video and i thought GAL E200 MMC Voiths were so terrible until this video just re-fixed my mind about them! They seem better than my YX69s at RR which are allocated on the 364 from my view, you're just so talented man i love watching your videos too much! Should reach to 1,000 subs right now tbf!
Too good man! Thanks for watching bro I appreciate everything! The YX69s are pretty much the same as the YW19s, just depends on how they’re driven cos as far I know they both have the same setups 👍🏾
Great video. ☺️
DAMN THIS IS THE BEST VIDEO I SAW ON AN ENVIRO 200MMC THIS IS A BEAST
Voith one yes!
That MMC is just 🤌🏾
Seggsy🤣🤣🤣😎
Wow! I knew 533 drivers were fast with Metroline but I didn’t think these GAL mmcs had it in them! It’s giving that similar kickdown vibe to the Alison’s as well as the revs!!
Oh yeah definitely, it’s producing even higher revs than the Allisons, they can only do 2600rpm, these can do 2800rpm! I do wish I caught this route when it was with Metroline though, them DEs seemed nice!
Huh... We don't get these kinds of revs in any short routes on 209, 378 or 533. But even with the jerky revs, how did the YW19-registered E200 MMC's were able to have a "kickdown"? I don't see the YX69-registed buses from River Road have any of those near my location.
Other than that, it's amazing to catch this kind of bus to have "kickdowns" enabled, especially the beautiful deceleration sound it makes!
They don’t have any sort of kickdown fitted, it’s the gearbox being tricked!
But yeah sounds lovely!
He’s dabbing the throttle pedal which on these force them to hold gears and reach higher revs. That’s why it sounds and feels jerky.
Damn that’s one crazy revving up there!
1:53, 2:22 and 9:45 though 🤩🤩🤩
Proper action from it here!😎
Literally lost for words here.
I thought these buses were speed-restricted... apparently not!
Seems like the batch had it removed 👀
those redlines!!!😮💨
Pushed to the limit!
Can make buses do that by constantly tapping the accelarator to the floor very quickly
Used to do it on scania buses we had would make go like a rocket 😂
Indeed so! Doesn’t work on all buses though
Bust yeah the Scanias do fly!
Scania N230UD? Those are my fave buses bro @paulsmith
Oh I see when I become a bus driver I'll do this to Voith MMC's then
@@localboys7449 scania L94,although we had 1 from another company on loan and it wouldnt doit like theothers so might be which way they set them up or how harsh on rev limiters etc
Good luck
Incredible journey! 🤣
Yessirrr!
Lovelyyyyyyyyyy !
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@@Frozzles ❤️
Beast bus
Decent man, they need to acc make Voith buses hold gears though not just the Allison tings. Did you ask the driver to do this or did he just randomly do it and you got lucky
Latest Voith buses with Hold Gears were some of Arriva’s Pulsars up North
Yeah I knew the driver 👌🏾, he knew what he was doing 😌
@@Frozzles don't forget Arriva have some lt63 DW's and that, on the 158 with kick
@@Frozzles you had to have known the driver to get a performance like this! 🤣
They don’t have hold gears but yeah
Yeah “usually” no driver would do this on a normal day🤣
I love redlines!
Good to hear!
I can't achieve this with the 6.7litre Voith-fitted ones I drive.
Normally, the throttle-tapping trick works best with the old ZF Ecomat boxes.
I can make our ex-London 2009 E400s hit the limiter in every gear! 🤣
DM me on Instagram 😉
I’m sure you can with the Voiths, just works differently
@@Frozzles
The only way I can get the Voith to "flip out" is by heel-tapping the brake just as it changes up (our change-up really low) and then it sometimes flips out and unlocks the torque converter so that the engine screams for a few seconds before it settles down.
@@ChrisRichmond Yeah that works for some buses
Nice! Btw If ur not Muslim or if I are lateish Ramadan Mubarak! This sounds so beautiful! 😊
Thanks! Nah I’m a Christian but I do respect you guys religion so much, Ramadan Mubarak to you ☪️
@@Frozzles Same
@@Frozzles Thanks!
Sensotop goodness
These have a very basic, “Eco” style mode when it comes to SensoTop just like it is with most other MMCs, but yeah when treated like this they go berserk regardless! 😮💨😮💨
6:34 bus gasping for air lol
For real 😂
Only other voith mmcs ive seen do this are the Go Cornwall ones.
Are they Allison init
@@Frozzles Some are voith and they redline on a ridiculous scale.
idk why but when MMCs change gear they make that exhaust noise anyone know what that is and why?
Yeah, it’s common with the new Euro 6 exhaust system that ADL use. It’s basically the airflow passing through the turbo, often heard when the throttle is released and as you said, during gear changes… from time to time.
@@Frozzles oh i see 👀 icl it's kinda interesting 😄
Bro you should ride the KB 181/284 SLN MMC's they have loud compressors and they can do this shit too
I know they’ve got SensoTop but I doubt they’ll redline without forcing
@@Frozzles yeah they have to force it that's what I mean. I've heard drivers do it with them mainly when turning the bus, btw what's the purpose of sensotop and can you tweak it?
Works just like TopoDyn, increases shifting points on higher gradients or heavy load, and decreases shifting points on the opposite, to improve fuel economy.
I assume it has different modes just like TopoDyn does yeah
@@stearmaster6.756 Nah they are good to ride still, I've recorded the whole batch
Is the driver doing some type of trick to go faster or is the bus just has a problem with the engine?
Trickery!
What route was this on?
533
@@Frozzles thanks
Blimey! It’s almost as if it wants to put itself out of its misery 💀😂.
Probably hasn’t consistently revved that high since it was even made, cobwebs have definitely been cleared 🤣🤣🤣
This bus is screaming
Naaaaaah! Are you dumbbb! I need to drive one of these now…
You do broooo, W/UX is calling 😮💨😮💨😮💨
@@Frozzles or AH👀