I've played zzz for months now, and after hearing about the DMC collab that is coming to pgr, I re installed the game, and Holly f*ck, zzz made me feel slow, and once I jumped back into pgr's combat, I literally felt a rush of adrenaline with it's high octane speed combat, in pgr speed is literally everything
@@Deathy75 in fact ZZZ is never fast in general what makes ZZZ interesting is the angles of certain things you do in the game like parry and bogde and the camera angles Without this angle, ZZZ is slower than Honkai Impact itself.
@FBIZeka1989 yeah but fancy animations and flashy effects ain't everything, take bloodborn for example, it's combat and mechanics are simply exquisite when executed properly, while in zzz, yeah it's cool and fun, but honestly the majority of the time I felt like I was constantly mashing buttons randomly And while the camera angles are quite pretty, I honestly felt them as more of a distraction than anything else, while in pgr, the lack of camera angles gave me a lot more freedom to think about my next move and plan out my next attack
@@nobu6833 The OG ones like me basically don't care we play if the game is good and PGR is definitely good these new breed of Hoyo r*tards who played nothing but GI are the tumors of the gacha community.
@@nobu6833In terms of presentation, yes. But, in terms of actual story or gameplay...this thing isn't even the same ballpark rn (and more than likely, never will be) 💀
Same lmao, I deleted a few months ago because I have been playing PGR for a long time and I was burned out, I tried ZZZ for 2 months then I realised how much I missed the combat and the story, I deleted ZZZ then installed PGR, even just the easily obtainable Black Cards was enough to pull me back in as hoyo are always so stingy with their pulls currency.
Kinda funny that PGR's example use 1 character while ZZZ use 3. Cuz ZZZ character's moveset are so simple it will be too repetitive if you only use 1 characters. Now I've tried both and both felt good in terms of combat feeling. Since I can't play both, PGR stays on my phone. It's overall more engaging and satisfying. Also ZZZ TV exploration was so boring and tedious while also having lots of loading screen. I want to combat yet the game keeps delaying the combat.
wdym? those are support characters that have low field-time for a reason, and they barely have any gameplay. ellen's kit is kinda repetitive after a while but so is lucia's, their combos are almost always the same and spammy, although ellen is a bit worse. pgr also has low field time supoorts and even qte bot machines (even new characters). besides, pgr had wayy more time to improve, crimson weave has all these sick moves but the game is pretty old by the point of her release. i like both games, but they are pretty different in a lot of aspects which are hard to compare. that also applies to combat, but in terms of which is more braindead and spammy? both usually, but pgr had more time to improve, and worsen (in the case of the absurd amount of i-frames). i dislike caesar bcs she makes zzz even more braindead tho, and that's not a thing in pgr (not in the same form, but some chars have near 100% interruption resistance during their important combos). anyway, in the end of the day they are two gacha games focused on mobile (zzz a little less so) and cater to that audience, where flashiness and dmg numbers are the more important aspect of gameplay. one way or the other, they are both good at what they propose and have a lot of room for improvement.
the only think i hate in zzz beside tv ... 1 poke from the monster destroy all your combo zzz char doesn't have any interup resistance ... i bet hoyo will sell char that have that buff interup resistance later
Caesar king But due to implementation of anti interruption from her shield, it resulted in major braindead gameplay comparable to genshin. On top of that, the new boss relies heavily on the same attack patterns, new endgame - ambush node - is just disputed note but enemies are massively tedious to fight against, arguably worse than belobog machineries (thanks pulchra and mors for ruining good game design).
If you want to see a really hard and difficult combat, play zzz tower. I don't need to say that the real thing about this game lives there. I play both, I know what I'm talking about.
@@ao4474 no matter which character i used to conpare it to zzz... it won't still change the fact that ZZZ combat is automated 🙂 specially the parry.... is 100% automated.
bruh mans used soilder 11 who is a 5 star and a full 5 star team with the ellen vid so crimson is fine. The combat in zzz is slow in comparison to pgr when even using spammy 5 star characters like nekomata. -edit: He was using the outdated crimson in the second example of the clip and it still outpaced zzz XD
Even using A rank character will still out perform every 5* in ZZZ, i'm baffled how a so high budget action game released in 2024 yet they made it one of the weakest in the genre,in term of combat gamplay ofc visual is amazing.
@@bunnyx2819 true hahaha however, it doesn't matter who i use to compare, the combat of ZZZ is way too Automated especially the parry is 100% automated and the difficulty is way too artificial 🤔
you blind? or what.....zzz bare minimum animations with top revenue still gives you low animations 🤦🙄btw what are those extra animations you saying cuz i hardly see it 🤦👀
even hi3 still wont be fair. Hoyo only knows how to make cartoonish graphics. Pgr combat/animations is in its own league (at least for the new constructs)
I played pgr from hi3 and pgr era, like it more than hi3. On this i prefer zzz combat more than pgr, only exception was crimson waves and nier collab. I feel like zzz is more impactul and more statisfying to play, and pgr combat better to look at for some ppl. I believe ppl who got hyped to play pgr, probably disappointed afterward
Ah yes, Alpha showing once more why she is Vergil's firstborn daughter
5:04 Im getting choke after knowing this was mobile game
Não era... É
Pgr X Dmc5 is real bro
I've played zzz for months now, and after hearing about the DMC collab that is coming to pgr, I re installed the game, and Holly f*ck, zzz made me feel slow, and once I jumped back into pgr's combat, I literally felt a rush of adrenaline with it's high octane speed combat, in pgr speed is literally everything
Yeeah, but if run out of dodging stamina...mean Adiōs😂
@lightningldrago4152 parry
@@Deathy75 in fact ZZZ is never fast in general what makes ZZZ interesting is the angles of certain things you do in the game like parry and bogde and the camera angles
Without this angle, ZZZ is slower than Honkai Impact itself.
@FBIZeka1989 yeah but fancy animations and flashy effects ain't everything, take bloodborn for example, it's combat and mechanics are simply exquisite when executed properly, while in zzz, yeah it's cool and fun, but honestly the majority of the time I felt like I was constantly mashing buttons randomly
And while the camera angles are quite pretty, I honestly felt them as more of a distraction than anything else, while in pgr, the lack of camera angles gave me a lot more freedom to think about my next move and plan out my next attack
@@Deathy75 Did you only play the story in ZZZ? The only fun part is the tower mode but it too is honestly a grind fest.
Alpha casually showing why she's Vergil's Daughter.
You really had to use Crimson Weave? She alone puts all the ZZZ chars to shame.
😅
there was some insane person that said zzz is better than the entirety of pgr, the meatriding is crazy for the hoyo fans 😭
@@nobu6833 The OG ones like me basically don't care we play if the game is good and PGR is definitely good these new breed of Hoyo r*tards who played nothing but GI are the tumors of the gacha community.
@@nobu6833In terms of presentation, yes.
But, in terms of actual story or gameplay...this thing isn't even the same ballpark rn (and more than likely, never will be) 💀
Well he can use noctis and still diff
If future pgr characters can incorporate the running fast mechanic i think the fluidity if pgr might increase even further
Pgr gameplay was from 3 years ago in CN server
playing zenless made me know how much i like PGR combat😂
Same lmao, I deleted a few months ago because I have been playing PGR for a long time and I was burned out, I tried ZZZ for 2 months then I realised how much I missed the combat and the story, I deleted ZZZ then installed PGR, even just the easily obtainable Black Cards was enough to pull me back in as hoyo are always so stingy with their pulls currency.
@@Taz-111hoyo loves money, kuro loves the players
so hype to see alpha Dad to show the meaning of " motivation "
Kinda funny that PGR's example use 1 character while ZZZ use 3. Cuz ZZZ character's moveset are so simple it will be too repetitive if you only use 1 characters.
Now I've tried both and both felt good in terms of combat feeling. Since I can't play both, PGR stays on my phone. It's overall more engaging and satisfying. Also ZZZ TV exploration was so boring and tedious while also having lots of loading screen. I want to combat yet the game keeps delaying the combat.
wdym? those are support characters that have low field-time for a reason, and they barely have any gameplay. ellen's kit is kinda repetitive after a while but so is lucia's, their combos are almost always the same and spammy, although ellen is a bit worse. pgr also has low field time supoorts and even qte bot machines (even new characters). besides, pgr had wayy more time to improve, crimson weave has all these sick moves but the game is pretty old by the point of her release. i like both games, but they are pretty different in a lot of aspects which are hard to compare. that also applies to combat, but in terms of which is more braindead and spammy? both usually, but pgr had more time to improve, and worsen (in the case of the absurd amount of i-frames). i dislike caesar bcs she makes zzz even more braindead tho, and that's not a thing in pgr (not in the same form, but some chars have near 100% interruption resistance during their important combos). anyway, in the end of the day they are two gacha games focused on mobile (zzz a little less so) and cater to that audience, where flashiness and dmg numbers are the more important aspect of gameplay. one way or the other, they are both good at what they propose and have a lot of room for improvement.
bro do lee hyperreal next
Yowai
You did ZZZ dirty by using Crimson Weave bro 😭
Balter coat crimson flame vs the twins, so epik
New luna puts entirety of zzz to shame
the only think i hate in zzz beside tv ...
1 poke from the monster destroy all your combo
zzz char doesn't have any interup resistance ... i bet hoyo will sell char that have that buff interup resistance later
Interup resistance cost for another $200 thus another limited 5 star
Zhongli 2
Caesar king
But due to implementation of anti interruption from her shield, it resulted in major braindead gameplay comparable to genshin. On top of that, the new boss relies heavily on the same attack patterns, new endgame - ambush node - is just disputed note but enemies are massively tedious to fight against, arguably worse than belobog machineries (thanks pulchra and mors for ruining good game design).
If you want to see a really hard and difficult combat, play zzz tower. I don't need to say that the real thing about this game lives there. I play both, I know what I'm talking about.
it's unfair to use Crimson Weave in comparision, use some A rank please
@@ao4474 no matter which character i used to conpare it to zzz...
it won't still change the fact that ZZZ combat is automated 🙂
specially the parry.... is 100% automated.
@@Voragon just use noctis or bridget
bruh mans used soilder 11 who is a 5 star and a full 5 star team with the ellen vid so crimson is fine. The combat in zzz is slow in comparison to pgr when even using spammy 5 star characters like nekomata.
-edit: He was using the outdated crimson in the second example of the clip and it still outpaced zzz XD
Even using A rank character will still out perform every 5* in ZZZ, i'm baffled how a so high budget action game released in 2024 yet they made it one of the weakest in the genre,in term of combat gamplay ofc visual is amazing.
Use Bambinata, she puts some S pgr ranks to shame too
Pgr has the best combat out of all gacha games 2nd is wuthering waves if you disagree you need help fr lol
@@zijjxo fr man haha
It's too Unfair for ZZZ use A or B ranks instead.
@@bunnyx2819 true hahaha however, it doesn't matter who i use to compare, the combat of ZZZ is way too Automated especially the parry is 100% automated and the difficulty is way too artificial 🤔
@@Voragon yup
Check out A rank noctis v/s radiant marcher boss fight.
Bambinata, Noctis, Teddy, Bridget and Yatta win over ZZZ characters.. A rank with S rank moveset.
Berried delight
EVEN ONE CHARACTER FROM INITIAL AGE IS ENOUGH TO BEAT ZZZ!!!
i just love both ngl
CW was overkill man you just killed the competition by using her 😂😂😂
Also her leap it will obliterate 💀
@@Henkayo 😆
5:36
I like zenless extra animation on everyrhing
zzz wins the animation ❤
pgr wins the combat ❤
pgr wins the choreography ❤
PGR animation still W
For booba animation 😂
you blind? or what.....zzz bare minimum animations with top revenue still gives you low animations 🤦🙄btw what are those extra animations you saying cuz i hardly see it 🤦👀
@@khevvillacruz1237 what voragon said, zzz has better animations tbh (i play pgr btw)
Hoyomid
@mahirkhanniloy3211 🥲
Be like me, reject grass and play both
😂hey u should use archlight or bastion to compare with 😴's gameplay. This isn't fair😢
Dude, if you really had to compare PGR, then do with Honkai Impact instead😐
Comparing PGR with ZZZ are just beyond fair tbf
even hi3 still wont be fair. Hoyo only knows how to make cartoonish graphics. Pgr combat/animations is in its own league (at least for the new constructs)
exactly 💯@@ALoneIyTaco
I played pgr from hi3 and pgr era, like it more than hi3. On this i prefer zzz combat more than pgr, only exception was crimson waves and nier collab. I feel like zzz is more impactul and more statisfying to play, and pgr combat better to look at for some ppl. I believe ppl who got hyped to play pgr, probably disappointed afterward
Zzz gameplay puts people to sleep
Mihoyo game sucks on graphic. Look at honkai impact and genshin. To cartoon. Honkai impact better than zzz.