they actually answer why Freddie doesn't go after really young kids, he went after like a 5 year old girl, and inexplicably, she was MORE powerful than Freddie in the dreamverse, possibly because of a childs pure imagination and belief in it, she absolutely walloped him and kept him from killing anyone for weeks till her family moved out, much to Freddie's relief. was in a Comic.
All I want to know is how many years apart it is for both Nightmares in Elme's Street 5 and Jurassic Park because the kid looked like he never grew up at all
I just realized something. I don't know how I missed it before. Mike assesses movies based on their totality. An weak ending, that makes a movie fall apart, will ruin it for him. Jay experiences movies moment by moment. A weak ending to a movie for him is no worse than a weak closing track on an album.
Jay is just more intuitive with filmmaking stuff. He's not necessarily in it for the story, he watches stuff to learn and experience the mind of a director, see new techniques or clever ways to do something. So when something is bad, he still gets something out of it, he still enjoys the process. Mike also cares about that stuff, but it's not his focus. He cares more about the actual story, the atmosphere, the characters, the universe, etc. When a director is incompetent and Jay can see everything that should have been done, he gets upset. When a storyteller is incompetent or there's studio medelling with an artist's vision, Mike gets upset. Jay likes the technical stuff, Mike likes the storytelling. They both sort of like everything.
Fans have spent the last decade telling him to check it out and he refuses. He might actually be one of those people who can't read subtitles and pay attention to the movie at the same time.
It was aired on Joe bob’s last drive in… that’s most likely how Jay saw it… it was basically chosen for him by a horror host. That’s the only reason I’ve seen it. Cool movie though 💪
@@jUQMtDmf I've noticed that they hardly review animated films either. I would love to see a discussion about Satoshi Kon films. I guess they don't know as much about animation
How did Mike miss the nun telling the story? She was in TNG season 1, as Troi's potential stepmother. And Fran Bennett in New Nightmare was in TNG as an admiral in Redemption part 2.
Mike didn’t even call out that the hooker with three boobs in Total Recall is Ensign Sonya Gomez. Very disappointing. I guess maybe he’s never looked at her face though.
Ironic that Mike is criticizing Wes Craven having a headshot on his bookshelf considering his house is filled to the brim with Rich's childhood photos.
I know Jay is an officionado for creepy perverted obscure Italian films, but it's nice to know that he also has a healthy knowledge of creepy perverted obscure Japanese films too. Mister Worldwide over here!
Yeah, I was like gtfo Jay pretending he hasn’t had a Tetsuo birthday cake at least once. That movie is so far up Jay’s alley you couldn’t see the main street from it anymore.
@@asmodiusjones9563 people have been telling Jay that for the last ten years and he still refuses to watch it. I'm genuinely starting to wonder if he just can't read subtitles like most Americans.
I actually love Wes's explanation of the demon in New Nightmare. Its not that he was bragging about his movies, its more that the creature (like an ultra fan), became really obsessed with the franchise. The idea that a movie monster got so popular, that it attracted the attention of some otherworldly entity, and as long as they kept making movies, it kept the creature occupied. The movies didnt even have to be good, they just had to be Freddy-ish. The creature wasnt even a demon, but more like an entity so foreign to our world that its more of a force (like gravity or something). A thing that exists outside of time and space, and only interacts within our world on rare occasion. The stories and the character of Freddy, somehow caught this entity, because of how similar they are in essence. Wes says that the entity exists for one purpose, the destruction of innocence. Well thats pretty much what Freddy does, preying on children. But once they stopped making the movies, the creature wanted to continue them in the only way it knew how in this world, to emulate Freddy. It got used to being Freddy from the movies, so it took on that form. To us Freddy is just a character in a story, but to it Freddy was a thing it resonated with itself. That was my understanding of it anyway. Its hard to describe, but imagine yourself, wandering the universe for eons. Wandering until you find your soul mate. But that soulmate isnt a person, but a poem. This poem encapsulates you almost perfectly. And then comes another poem, and then another. Soon you start to forget who you were, and cant tell the difference between yourself and the poems. Then the poems stop. Thats what is happening to this entity. It then starts to become the poem, not in word form but in real a manifestation of what the poem was about. The other part of that movie that I really liked, is how this entity still followed some of the "rules" of dreams before it fully manifested. Specifically with how the little boys stuffed dino was protecting him, successfully, because of the boys belief in his cherished toy. That was a nice touch.
@ZillaTheTegu: Excellent explication. You expressed it better than I could. Your analysis also explains why Freddy the demon is afraid of fire: the demon is becoming Freddy and so it is carrying Freddy's memories and fears of being burned. All that said, I agree with the RLM fellas that ending was poor. The shifted from dark, mysterious, and sinister, to something slightly above camp. Mike's idea was a good one. Have Heather be called Nancy, have her in the Elm Street house, but then somehow (I don't know how) have her lure Freddy out into the real world where she and a similarly tormented Robert England could defeat him (again, I don't know how). I would think their weapon would have to be some equal and opposite emotion/force that give the demon Freddy his power. But, again, I don't have the imagination for that. New Nightmare was the Proto-Scream. New Nightmare was really close to being both something new and familiar. Had the ending been better, more serious, then movie could have a been a classic rather than what it is now: the best of the sequels and the start of a new horror genre.
@@DavidADII Its in the movie itself. They show a partial clip of it at 41:30, but its not the whole clip, so its leaving out a lot of information. And Mike is basically completely missing the point of whats being said.
@@pandaloon6083 Yes, because the people think of the entity as a demon in Freddys clothes, so that ind of makes it a demon using Freddys form. Which makes it vulnerable to all the things that make Freddy vulnerable. IE Freddy doesnt like fire, so the demon adopts that fear. They dont even kill the entity at the end of the movie, what they kill is this entity's concept of what it is to exist as Freddy in our world. It probably still exists somewhere out there, between the spaces of reality and fiction, waiting for a new story to capture it. But yea the ending could have been better. For all the buildup for what this creature was, it seemed a little to easy to kill. A better confrontation would be nice, and maybe something more like the original but even more meta. In the original movie Nancy defeats Freddy by not being afraid of him, which is where he gets his power. So maybe in New Nightmare, before the entity fully manifests, the whole cast of the original movie goes on live tv, and totaly run the mystique and intrest in the Freddy franchise. Have England come out in full makeup, and then tare it off, showing that hes just an actor. Show how they did all the special effects. Show the tedius paperwork they had to do to create the movie. All of which would disenfranchise the audience, make them board and go like, "Aww Freddy is lame now" which in turn, would take away the entity/demon/Freddy's power. Might not work, but its an idea at least.
Clive Barker wrote about this in Candyman. Ghosts can live as ghosts only if living brains remember them. They can feed on compatible mental energy from people around them. Candyman hold his community hostage. If they fear him and maintain his legend, he feeds and is content. If they begin to forget him, he gets hungry and he's forced to make them remember before his power to do so fades.
The chiptune music used is from the "A Nightmare on Elm Street" NES game. The composer is David Wise who also did the music for Donkey Kong Country, Battletoads and Wizards and Warriors.
Fun fact , in the funeral seen Craven wanted Jonny Depp to do a cameo but didn’t ask him because thought he was too big a star. When Depp was asked about this later he said he would have gladly done it.
I always that it was weird that Wes didn't think he'd do it considering Depp returned to do a cameo for Freddy's Dead. He's the guy in the TV ad who does the "This is your brain on drugs" bit.
I completely agree with your critique of Nightmare 6, and I wanted to add my own perspective to it. I worked in the lighting department on the film. Over my career, I have worked on many low-budget horror films from Hellraiser to Children of the Corn. So much fun! In my opinion, one of the issues with the film - and with many successful horror series is that they start getting popular, and more money gets thrown at them. Unfortunately, this can lead to a disconnect with the genre and what made it successful in the first place. Nightmare 6 is a great example of this - directors trying to make a film that will be a dramatic showpiece to break them into mainstream Hollywood, more lights, shooting in a studio, 3D (total cluster F* I have never had more downtime on a film while the techs tried to get the rig to work!), actors that have a name (kind of) all this takes away from that down and dirty film making that makes horror so good. As you mentioned there were some great in-camera effects in the film, unfortunately, a lot of them got cut out of the final product. Back then, we lit films for final release on film for a theater - digital was an afterthought. The movie looked great on film, but I'm sure no one supervised the transfer to digital and most likely no one cared. Most of those films were pre-sold so to some degree the profits were already baked in. If you want to talk about a real Cluster F* let's talk Hellraiser - I worked on Hellraiser 2, 3, and part of Bloodline. What a mess!
Id also love to hear more about your experiences working on hellraiser. There's just something so fascinating about little behind the scenes details for horror movies in particular that really add another dimension when you go back and rewatch them.
You should check out the Cinema Snobs reviews of the Hellraiser series. He's probably made some of the best videos on every horror movie from the 80s and 90s. Quite possibly one of the longest running series on TH-cam, aside from Angry Video Game Nerd. Check him out!
Would love to hear more, I love Hellraiser 1 and 2 but always felt like it was a film series that fast tracked going in a weird direction to try keep up with other horror trends personally.
He is also the reason the Freddy makeup got stupider and stupider. It wasn't that the studio was lazy or cheap it was Robert Englund didn't want to spend hours in a makeup chair and just wanted them to have some appliances they could slap on his face and call it a day.
@@lutherheggs451 [it was Robert Englund didn't want to spend hours in a makeup chair ...] Actually the make-up was destroying his skin and the solvents used to remove it were even more harmful than the adhesives used to apply it. (He once ripped all the appliances off WITHOUT the solvents because it was going to hurt less). Anybody can do it once, but Bob developed an allergy after a decade of daily applications and refused to do any more films if they couldn't stop using such a harsh process that was literally destroying his skin. Micheal Dorn had the same thing happen to him with the Worf makeup, and he too demanded it be changed or he would quit that part. Much like the Freddy make-up it'd be changed to as few pieces as possible with limited adhesive to skin contact. Everybody thinks film Fx makeup is just a long day in a chair and claustrophobia, but prolonged use and uncountable applications can have a real impact on a person's health and actors have a right to prioritize their health over an Fx team's convenience.
@@Dream0Asylum It’s crazy to think about how little we knew or gave a fuck about the health implications of all kinds of chemicals before the 2010’s rolled around. The 80’s and 90’s were the peak of people just being flagrantly poisoned by cosmetic and food ingredients.
He even asked Mike if the doctor was in Star Trek because he thought she looked like she was. Mike incorrectly said no, but she played Fleet Admiral Shanti in TNG. Jay knows things about Star Trek he doesn't know he knows...
@@mantis1s1k His memory is kind of nuts like that, like remembering Mike's convention experience far better than he does, despite not being there like he was
A friend of mine back in the 80's never let me forget his shining moment in the middle of a crowded theater when Amanda Krueger said "bastard son of a hundred maniacs", he yelled "Just one!" and everyone laughed. I swear he told me that story a dozen times and each time it was like the first. To him, anyway.
There was a while after the soul-crushing disaster Picard Season 2 that he didn't really make any star trek references. It's good to see him back to his old self again.
I had assumed Freddie could only stay in springwood because that was the limit of his fear, like the town knew about him, but outside of the town, no one feared him.
It's weird to make it geographic, though. The general premise should be that he's restricted to the dreams of people who know the legend. Make him more of a memetic demon. Which then could be tied in to New Nightmare really well since the films have made the "real" Freddy so well known that now his reach has extended even further. He's not just placated by the films, they were increasing his power. Now he's unhappy that he might start to fade away since his existence is tied to telling the story and being afraid of him That's also how you get the further fourth wall breaking ending where they talk about how they've banished him for now, but for anyone who has ever seen one of the films or remembers him, he can always still come back... in their nightmares! Cut to credits.
I worked at the local hospital for a bit and there was no way you'd accidentally walk in on an autopsy. You took an elevator accesible only by the staff to the lowest level, walked thru a maze of corridors and at the end you found the place sealed behind what was basically a giant steel gate next to the lift used to move dead people between floors.
I work in a large one with a couple morgues. The one in my building is in a really odd place. It is on the lower level where our receiving dock is and employee badges are needed but it's just a little door across from where janitorial keeps some supplies and next to where some linens are stored. There's no elevator connected to it, they need to push them down a hallway and around a corner. I've turned that cormer before and found bodies in winding sheets juat sitting there unattended. Usually there's a cop guarding them (shooting victims, most likely). I came across a loved one in that hall just crying into the arms of a detective while people were carting various supplies around. It's not super public but I always imagined those areas were much more restricted.
Robert Shaye was also the producer at New Line who told Peter Jackson he should make The Lord of The Rings three movies instead of Peter Jackson's hopeful pitch of two films, he secured us a great trilogy on top of doing all the Nightmare films. One of the few identifiably cool hollywood producers.
Jacob "vomits" the souls that Freddy fed him in the womb. That's why Amanda says "Now, Jacob, unleash the power he has given you". Still doesn't make a lot of sense but there's a connection there, I guess, lol
The full breakdown is I understand it. Freddy finds a loophole to be reborn through the dreams of Alice’s baby, Jacob. He does his kills, feeds the souls to Jacob with the goal of making Jacob a monster like him and a vessel for him to continue doing his dream murders, and reaching the teens beyond the “Elm Street children”. His plan is working until ghost Amanda gives him the “you have the power” speech, at which point he pukes those souls out into Freddy. Without the Jacob filter, Freddy is too weak to actually handle these souls on his own. They tear through him like the souls in part 4 did, reducing him to a weakened little thing. Basically reversing whatever weird loophole he found to be reborn. That’s a whole lot of ridiculous but I think that’s basically it.
This is correct... Freddy was stuffing the three souls into Jacob to corrupt him but he used the souls against Freddy to rip him apart or some shit... it still doesn;t make sense but I get what they were going for...
The doctor in New Nightmare was on Star Trek. She was Admiral Shanthi, who authorizes Picard's plan to prove the Romulans were secretly helping the Duras in the Klingon Civil War.
I just watched Scream 1 and 2 with the director commentary tracks and a possibly related incident happens in the Scream movies. On the commentary track for Scream 2 about 1:11:30 in, Wes talks about how the first assistant director would like to take head shots of people and paste them over pictures on the sets and you can see some of them throughout the movie. Not exactly the same as just industry production photos of actors, but a funny enough coincidence.
Fun fact Robert Englund did in fact appear in another popular Sci-fi series. He appeared in a episode of Babylon 5 called "Grey 17 is missing" He plays a cult leader named Jeremiah.
Now that you guys have covered Michael Myers, Jason, and Freddy... here's hoping for a retrospective on my favorites: The Clive Barker Trilogy of Hellraiser, Nightbreed, and Lord of Illusions
@@adriankay8410 I spent my wasted youth playing League of Legends while listening to Plinkett Reviews. I spent my wasted adulthood listening to Best of the Worst and playing Path of Exile. Time is a circle.
idk if any of them have had much experience with Tetsuo or the rest of Tsukamotos filmography? Would love it if they did though as it's one of my favourite films by one one of my favourite directors, currently been trying to seek out Kei Fujiwara's and Shozin Fukui's films atm!
Heather Langenkamp herself played Starfleet Security Officer Moto in the 2013 film _Star Trek Into Darkness_ (on which her husband was the makeup department head), although you'd never know it just by looking at the character, due to the massive, watermelon-like alien head prosthetic she's got on. I realise this may have been mentioned during the _Half in the Bag_ episode on the film, but I'll never know for sure, as beardless Rich Evans scares the absolute _CHRIST_ out of me, so I cannot possibly watch it. *Edit:* 21:50 God _damn_ it, Jay!
Because Mike’s not the only shameless Trekkie here, I thought I’d throw in some people he missed: Nan Martin who plays Freddy’s mom in _Dream Warriors_ was Wyatt’s mother in _TNG: “Haven”._ Tracy Middendorff who plays the babysitter in _New Nightmare_ was one of the actresses to play Dukat’s daughter on DS9. Fran Bennett, the doctor lady from the same movie, *was* on Trek playing Vice Adm. Shanthi in _TNG: “Redemption II”._ Thomas Dekker who was Jesse in the remake was one of Picard’s children in _Generations_ as well as one of the children in Janeway’s holoprograms on Voyager. Clancy Brown from the same film was Zobral in _ENT: “Desert Crossing”._ I’m sure there’s others but why spoil Mike’s fun when he realizes all he missed so far?
Craig Wasson (Dr. Neil Gordon from Nightmare 3) was also in a classic O'Brian must Suffer episode of DS9. The one where if Inner Light was actually done as a horrible torture nightmare where you live in a prison hell hole for 20 years but actually only like an hour has passed...
@@ericbaker8781 Yeah, he was his cell mate. O'Brien basically was charged and imprisoned on a planet where they implant memories of prison in you (so you think you are there 20 years when in reality 2 hrs passed). It was a really good performance by Wasson even under the alien make-up and a pretty good episode overall I would recommend it.
Wanted to shoutout Les Bohem (screenwriter for Elm Street 5) who's actually super super cool and not a hack. Played bass with Sparks in the 80s and is half of Gleaming Spires, a really great and under-known new wave band. Guy's a legend
Yes thank you! I listend to Gleaming Spires the other day and I said hey that looks like Les Bohem from Nightmare 5! It just randomly popped in my head and I looked it up and sure enough! On a side note, I’m still trying to get girls through hypnotism.
The only tell is that the Freddy image is ripped straight off of the 2010 film poster. But no one saw that movie, and we’re all collectively saying it never happened, so I can understand why it didn’t register.
@@kaptainKrill Disney slapped a photo of an Emperor Palpatine ACTION FIGURE onto one of their Star Wars posters. A bad looking and / or inaccurate poster isn't necessarily fake.
I always assumed Robert Englund was slowly being possessed by the demon. He was the one making the prank calls, and you can see the demon finally taking over when he finishes his painting.
Just in case no one has mentioned it yet, the photo on the wall of the unidentified male is a publicity photo of actor James Dean. I looked up the original picture and it's an exact match.
I don't remember where I heard about this channel, but I wish I could thank them. For years, this channel has been one of 3 channels that I will drop what I'm doing to watch the new video
It's absolutely WILD how bad Freddy's Dead looks when you realise Rachel Talalay would go on to direct some of the most gorgeous episodes of Doctor Who ever. She really had a glow up.
And the, "Fuck. This again." slouch that takes over Jay's body. I feel his pain. I had a friend who would work in some sort of I Love Lucy reference into nearly every conversation I'd have with him. He obviously did the same to his brother, because he told me that his brother finally snapped and yelled, "Could one fucking thing that happen in my life that doesn't have anything to do with with that fucking show?" That stopped him for a while. Then he started again, adding The Golden Girls and Maude into the equation. This time, I had to be the one to tell him to snap the fuck out of it, and deal with reality. He became a MAGA, god fearing, far-right, not alright shell of his former self, and that was the last straw.
It always seemed to me like the ending of New Nightmare, in which Freddy gets pushed into the oven, was an echo of Hansel and Gretel -- a parallel I always loved. It's about trapping evil in stories, and continuing that tradition, not about killing a demon. Anyway, great discussion.
The boy also appears briefly in Addams Family. He's Tully's kid. Tetsuo is one of the most inventive and insane movies I've ever seen. My local Blockbuster had it. Great stuff. Something that's not mentioned about the whole early/mid 80s epidemic of m***sting at elementary schools and daycares was that most of the accusations were later determined to be in fact fake. Ended up it was a social contagion brought on by therapists and psychiatrists who would, sometimes unknowingly, implant false/misleading memories into the kids during therapy sessions and convince them of all sorts of insane things. It coincided at the same time with the whole "Satanist outbreak at elementary schools" phenomenon. The movie was being made in '84, which is almost at the height of the panic. The truth did't come out until almost the 90s.
@@kevinkampen8661 an epidemic of young preschool and daycare kids, after meetings with therapists pushing the idea, falsely accusing their teachers of molesting them, abusing them and exposing them to satanic imagery. Look up the Satanic Panic and the McMarten preschool trial. All of that was going on smack in the middle of the production of the early Nightmare movies.
A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984), Dream Warriors (1987), Wes Craven's New Nightmare (1994) are my favorites in this Franchise. They make a pretty great Trilogy in my opinion.
Yeah I generally agree those are the BEST ones. I’m gonna have to revisit two after these videos coz I’ve know about the gay connotation to the film for a long time but I haven’t seen it for maybe five or six years. Four and five are the ones I’ve seen the least but I remember four being kinda entertaining. Freddy’s Dead is TERRIBLE but I have a soft spot for it coz it’s the first Elm Street film I saw (I was too scared to watch the early ones coz I heard they got less scary as they went on). Freddy vs Jason is very silly and maybe a decade too late but it’s the last proper appearance of Robert Englund in the role and as someone who grew up OBSESSED with the lead characters of both franchises I loved it as a kid. The remake shot itself in the foot a bit because I didn’t hate the premise that Freddy was a wrongly accused vengeful spirit initially but then they throw that away and it became very boring and also it’s maybe one of the most generic and visually unimaginative remakes I’ve seen which is a problem when you’re making an instalment in a franchise known for its creativity. Anyway rant over lol :)
Mike, the sceptical doctor is played by Fran Bennett. Look to Redemption Part 2, she played Admiral Shanthi who authorised Captain Picards plan to create a tachyon detection net to detect the Romulans supplying weapons to House Duras.
I saw the Dream Child as one of my first Elmstreet films... the deaths in this one creeped me out so much but i wanted to see more of this Freddy character Drop Dead Fred is an odd instalment to this series.
I remember being done with the franchise by Part 4, and I barely remember the plot of part 4. It was more like a bad fantasy action movie than horror, and no wonder, Renny Harlin was the director. This might have been the first time I was bored enough to walk out of a movie. By the age of 16, I felt I'd rather spend a Saturday afternoon in the mall bookstore than sitting in front of a shitty movie.
@Scribbled_Death than wait until u play the video game spin-off, Dead Head Fred. Fun fact: Drop Dead Fred was distributed by New Line here in the states
@@bravelilttletoaster I thought that was the origin story. Before Freddy started tormenting kids, he tormented his family with sheer stupidity and sausages.
Tetsuo is brilliant and by far the best film with Iron Man in the title. I didn't care for the sequel but aside from that, Tsukamoto (the director) had a really great run in the 90s and early 00s.
He's still going strong. I thought Killing was a mixed bag, but he did a wonderfully grotesque adaptation of Fires on the plain and Kotoko may be one of his more unusual movies. I wonder what he's up to next.
@@jeanfcp I think his work suffered greatly when he switched to digital video. He had such a thing for film grain, contrast and colour schemes. With a clean image his work lost a lot of its otherworldliness. Ironically that's what worked for me in Fires on the plain, because the reality of the war is shown in such a clean, banal, documentary-esque way that it becomes kind of unsettling.
For a moment I thought that remaining 50 minutes of this video will be Mike going through the plot of all of the Star Trek episodes that The Nightmare on Elm Street actors appeared in
My mom used to be a high school teacher in Illinois, and one time when I was a kid, we ran into one of her students in a store a few years after he had graduated. I remember him telling my mom he had moved to LA and had a girlfriend named Brooke Theiss who had just gotten a starring role on a sitcom, which of course turned out to be Just The 10 Of Us.
At 1:20, I noticed Jay clearly said "Fart Five" and I immediately checked the end of the video to confirm that he edited the video because anyone else would have spent ten minutes making fun of him for that humiliating blunder
Oh wow! It's so funny you two bring up the hidden cast photos. Actually caught a screening of pt 2 in Chicago w/ director Jack Sholder recently and specifically asked him if he knew whose photo was on the basement stairway wall at the meet & greet post screening, as I myself had never noticed it til that night (probably cause I still normally watch most of my favorite films on vhs) Anyways, He didn't have a clue and honestly seemed a bit perplexed, having apparently never spotted it himself, though he did say it would've been set production people who put it there. So thank you for shedding more light on this and the other hidden pics within the series. Glad to know I'm not the only weirdo who notices these things!
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Mike is taking a break from making fun of old people to repeatedly call a child ugly.
Mike was born a middle-aged man, destined to make fun of both the elderly and the very young.
Why is it I haven't even seen the review yet and I know exactly who you are talking about?
He’s a versatile hater
The kid isn’t sexy enough for him, unlike the children from Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.
It's newish ground.
Mentioning Tetsuo is one thing. Mentioning Tetsuo and Milf Manor in one episode is unbelievable.
The beauty of RLM!
Almost a hat trick
to be fair they're both really disturbing.
@@sednoid yea, but only one is considered art and worth watching. 🤣
@@Jeffmetal42 milf manor, right?
I still can't believe they ended the whole series on such a different note. Freddy Got Fingered just didn't seem to work with the rest of the series
they actually answer why Freddie doesn't go after really young kids, he went after like a 5 year old girl, and inexplicably, she was MORE powerful than Freddie in the dreamverse, possibly because of a childs pure imagination and belief in it, she absolutely walloped him and kept him from killing anyone for weeks till her family moved out, much to Freddie's relief. was in a Comic.
This is canon.
Anybody younger than 10 one shots him.
@@ShahbazBokhari Makes sense in a way because until around that age you can't really understand death so would make you sort of immune to him.
What if he runs into someone who’s lucid dreaming? Can they just give themselves abilities and what not and whoop his ass?
@@StumbIingforward that's more or less the plot of the third movie. Doesn't work out super well for most of them.
@@StumbIingforward it helps make you stronger, but naa it’s still Freddy’s world.
This poor kid getting called ugly by Mike in two different videos, made years apart, is absolutely hilarious to me.
What was the first time?
All I want to know is how many years apart it is for both Nightmares in Elme's Street 5 and Jurassic Park because the kid looked like he never grew up at all
Just glad to see consistency lol
I bet he looks like child Mike
@@hteekay four years lol
I just realized something. I don't know how I missed it before. Mike assesses movies based on their totality. An weak ending, that makes a movie fall apart, will ruin it for him. Jay experiences movies moment by moment. A weak ending to a movie for him is no worse than a weak closing track on an album.
Basically Jay experiences movies the way he experiences The Manhole
Jay is just more intuitive with filmmaking stuff. He's not necessarily in it for the story, he watches stuff to learn and experience the mind of a director, see new techniques or clever ways to do something.
So when something is bad, he still gets something out of it, he still enjoys the process.
Mike also cares about that stuff, but it's not his focus. He cares more about the actual story, the atmosphere, the characters, the universe, etc.
When a director is incompetent and Jay can see everything that should have been done, he gets upset.
When a storyteller is incompetent or there's studio medelling with an artist's vision, Mike gets upset.
Jay likes the technical stuff, Mike likes the storytelling. They both sort of like everything.
Cool story, bro.
@@heyimwilly This Willy guy has the correct answer
A movie is a complete product. An album is a collection of individual songs.
Mike: having an actress' headshot in your house is weird
Also Mike: Digs through Rich Evans' trash for photos of Rich Evans
But they're friends.
@@ggt47 I mean, the actress is supposed to be just the character who is someone's friend, so same logic?
@@Targisvear Sarcasm, apologies.
@@ggt47 All jokes in good fun, take care man.
That's him looking for pictures of his crush for the Rich shrine hidden behind the detachable pannel in his wardrobe. All perfectly normal.
Jay acting like he's barely heard of Tetsuo coming across a little unbelievable. I suspect he watches it every night to fall asleep
Fans have spent the last decade telling him to check it out and he refuses. He might actually be one of those people who can't read subtitles and pay attention to the movie at the same time.
@@DistractedGlobeGuy They don't really watch non-American movies anyway unfortunately
It was aired on Joe bob’s last drive in… that’s most likely how Jay saw it… it was basically chosen for him by a horror host. That’s the only reason I’ve seen it. Cool movie though 💪
@@jUQMtDmf I've noticed that they hardly review animated films either. I would love to see a discussion about Satoshi Kon films. I guess they don't know as much about animation
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You want to tell me that all of Jay's Italian horror movies are actually American?
How did Mike miss the nun telling the story? She was in TNG season 1, as Troi's potential stepmother. And Fran Bennett in New Nightmare was in TNG as an admiral in Redemption part 2.
What a hack fraud!
Always knew Mike was a fake fan
Mike didn’t even call out that the hooker with three boobs in Total Recall is Ensign Sonya Gomez. Very disappointing. I guess maybe he’s never looked at her face though.
Hack frauds
the dementia is catching up to him
Ironic that Mike is criticizing Wes Craven having a headshot on his bookshelf considering his house is filled to the brim with Rich's childhood photos.
I'm sure his Rich obsession is why he had such a heightened sense for Wes Craven's picture easter eggs
Yeah but everybody has a frame picture from Rich's childhood in their homes right? Right?
@@zer03d14no, that’s an insane assertion. Some of us have to get rid of ours because they cause problems in our marriage
@@MikeMarlowe-ym3zy Sounds like you shoulda got rid of the marriage clearly.
An under rated running thread through RLM content is mike's extensive knowledge of Midwestern Serial killers
Of course, he’s one of them.
@@LinusBitchTitsPlinkett is in NJ?
He's got to keep tabs on the competition, you know.
Mike does have a BTK vibe.
@@docbledsoeMike is not plinkett, Mike is Mike, plinkett is plinkett
That was so nice of Mike to take time to research those TNG appearances for Jay, since Jay is such a huge Star Trek fan
Mike's impression of Freddy is so god damn good.
Either, “Make it so, bitch!” or “So be it, bitch!” Haha
Not even going to mention his Glinda the Good Witch?
Lookout guys we got a badass here
@@mikeycrackson plus, his crazy good Worf impression in their recent Picard Re:view. Man has serious talent as a voice actor.
@@mrredherring2900 and then ironically all of his professional VA work has consisted of him just doing his regular voice or the Plinkett voice.
I know Jay is an officionado for creepy perverted obscure Italian films, but it's nice to know that he also has a healthy knowledge of creepy perverted obscure Japanese films too. Mister Worldwide over here!
The idea of Freddy hunting down the writers of Elm Street is actually a fire idea. lol.
Fire idea…. Pun intended?
Literally an entire hour of Jay trying to pretend he doesn’t remember the drill dick scene from Tetsuo.
And by "remember" you mean regularly jerks off to right? I knew Jay was one of my people
That will fuck a brain up
Second only to the drill dick scene in Driller. "I'm your driller man baby! Ahhahahahahah"
Yeah, I was like gtfo Jay pretending he hasn’t had a Tetsuo birthday cake at least once. That movie is so far up Jay’s alley you couldn’t see the main street from it anymore.
@@asmodiusjones9563 people have been telling Jay that for the last ten years and he still refuses to watch it. I'm genuinely starting to wonder if he just can't read subtitles like most Americans.
Jay: *knows obscure movie trivia*
"How the f_ck do you know these things?"- Says the man who knows 99% of all Star Trek trivia
The only Star Trek facts Mike doesn’t know are the ones that don’t exist yet.
Only 99%?! Those are fighting words... Luckily Mike is Star Trek nerd, so you can probably take him
says the man who compiles the freddy headshot theory
Used to know*
Picard burned his brain
I refuse to believe that. Mike and Rich are grifters and doing an over-elaborate joke
"Other actors from the series are in the Next Generation right?" "A couple..." says Mike as he pulls out the piece of paper lol
And then proceeds to meticulously describe the plot points of the TNG episode they appeared in while Jay sits there.
I actually love Wes's explanation of the demon in New Nightmare. Its not that he was bragging about his movies, its more that the creature (like an ultra fan), became really obsessed with the franchise. The idea that a movie monster got so popular, that it attracted the attention of some otherworldly entity, and as long as they kept making movies, it kept the creature occupied. The movies didnt even have to be good, they just had to be Freddy-ish. The creature wasnt even a demon, but more like an entity so foreign to our world that its more of a force (like gravity or something). A thing that exists outside of time and space, and only interacts within our world on rare occasion. The stories and the character of Freddy, somehow caught this entity, because of how similar they are in essence. Wes says that the entity exists for one purpose, the destruction of innocence. Well thats pretty much what Freddy does, preying on children. But once they stopped making the movies, the creature wanted to continue them in the only way it knew how in this world, to emulate Freddy. It got used to being Freddy from the movies, so it took on that form. To us Freddy is just a character in a story, but to it Freddy was a thing it resonated with itself. That was my understanding of it anyway.
Its hard to describe, but imagine yourself, wandering the universe for eons. Wandering until you find your soul mate. But that soulmate isnt a person, but a poem. This poem encapsulates you almost perfectly. And then comes another poem, and then another. Soon you start to forget who you were, and cant tell the difference between yourself and the poems. Then the poems stop. Thats what is happening to this entity. It then starts to become the poem, not in word form but in real a manifestation of what the poem was about.
The other part of that movie that I really liked, is how this entity still followed some of the "rules" of dreams before it fully manifested. Specifically with how the little boys stuffed dino was protecting him, successfully, because of the boys belief in his cherished toy. That was a nice touch.
Thats really cool; where did he write/talk about this?
@ZillaTheTegu: Excellent explication. You expressed it better than I could. Your analysis also explains why Freddy the demon is afraid of fire: the demon is becoming Freddy and so it is carrying Freddy's memories and fears of being burned.
All that said, I agree with the RLM fellas that ending was poor. The shifted from dark, mysterious, and sinister, to something slightly above camp. Mike's idea was a good one. Have Heather be called Nancy, have her in the Elm Street house, but then somehow (I don't know how) have her lure Freddy out into the real world where she and a similarly tormented Robert England could defeat him (again, I don't know how). I would think their weapon would have to be some equal and opposite emotion/force that give the demon Freddy his power. But, again, I don't have the imagination for that.
New Nightmare was the Proto-Scream. New Nightmare was really close to being both something new and familiar. Had the ending been better, more serious, then movie could have a been a classic rather than what it is now: the best of the sequels and the start of a new horror genre.
@@DavidADII Its in the movie itself. They show a partial clip of it at 41:30, but its not the whole clip, so its leaving out a lot of information. And Mike is basically completely missing the point of whats being said.
@@pandaloon6083 Yes, because the people think of the entity as a demon in Freddys clothes, so that ind of makes it a demon using Freddys form. Which makes it vulnerable to all the things that make Freddy vulnerable. IE Freddy doesnt like fire, so the demon adopts that fear. They dont even kill the entity at the end of the movie, what they kill is this entity's concept of what it is to exist as Freddy in our world. It probably still exists somewhere out there, between the spaces of reality and fiction, waiting for a new story to capture it.
But yea the ending could have been better. For all the buildup for what this creature was, it seemed a little to easy to kill. A better confrontation would be nice, and maybe something more like the original but even more meta. In the original movie Nancy defeats Freddy by not being afraid of him, which is where he gets his power. So maybe in New Nightmare, before the entity fully manifests, the whole cast of the original movie goes on live tv, and totaly run the mystique and intrest in the Freddy franchise. Have England come out in full makeup, and then tare it off, showing that hes just an actor. Show how they did all the special effects. Show the tedius paperwork they had to do to create the movie. All of which would disenfranchise the audience, make them board and go like, "Aww Freddy is lame now" which in turn, would take away the entity/demon/Freddy's power. Might not work, but its an idea at least.
Clive Barker wrote about this in Candyman. Ghosts can live as ghosts only if living brains remember them. They can feed on compatible mental energy from people around them. Candyman hold his community hostage. If they fear him and maintain his legend, he feeds and is content. If they begin to forget him, he gets hungry and he's forced to make them remember before his power to do so fades.
I love that in Mike's world any con artist is instantly smoking a cigarette.
Or any pretentious hack director that thinks he's the next Coppola.
@@DistractedGlobeGuy right, like I said. Con artist :P
The question is, what's in the cigarette? 😉
I think it's a cigar.
They are from Milwaukee...
Mike's Freddy impersonations are always on point
swol AF
@@mrredherring29007mj
It's almost the same as his George Romero impression.
I also like his Roger Corman impersonations
Yeah they are spot on lol
The chiptune music used is from the "A Nightmare on Elm Street" NES game.
The composer is David Wise who also did the music for Donkey Kong Country, Battletoads and Wizards and Warriors.
thank you! I knew it sounded familiar. Stuck in my head from that ancient AVGN video
Thanks a mil, wanted to know where it was from.
@@Larkarran Thank you!
thanks
That's why it sounds so good. David Wise is an amazing composer.
Fun fact , in the funeral seen Craven wanted Jonny Depp to do a cameo but didn’t ask him because thought he was too big a star. When Depp was asked about this later he said he would have gladly done it.
*Scene.
Don't sweat it. It happens to the best.
He used to be my favorite actor and he definitely would have done it. He was cool like that.
I always that it was weird that Wes didn't think he'd do it considering Depp returned to do a cameo for Freddy's Dead. He's the guy in the TV ad who does the "This is your brain on drugs" bit.
Mike is legitimately good at impressions. he doesn't try to directly mimic the voices, he goes for the tone of the character
I completely agree with your critique of Nightmare 6, and I wanted to add my own perspective to it. I worked in the lighting department on the film. Over my career, I have worked on many low-budget horror films from Hellraiser to Children of the Corn. So much fun!
In my opinion, one of the issues with the film - and with many successful horror series is that they start getting popular, and more money gets thrown at them. Unfortunately, this can lead to a disconnect with the genre and what made it successful in the first place. Nightmare 6 is a great example of this - directors trying to make a film that will be a dramatic showpiece to break them into mainstream Hollywood, more lights, shooting in a studio, 3D (total cluster F* I have never had more downtime on a film while the techs tried to get the rig to work!), actors that have a name (kind of) all this takes away from that down and dirty film making that makes horror so good.
As you mentioned there were some great in-camera effects in the film, unfortunately, a lot of them got cut out of the final product. Back then, we lit films for final release on film for a theater - digital was an afterthought. The movie looked great on film, but I'm sure no one supervised the transfer to digital and most likely no one cared. Most of those films were pre-sold so to some degree the profits were already baked in.
If you want to talk about a real Cluster F* let's talk Hellraiser - I worked on Hellraiser 2, 3, and part of Bloodline. What a mess!
Thanks for sharing! So curious about what went wrong on Hellraiser?
Id also love to hear more about your experiences working on hellraiser. There's just something so fascinating about little behind the scenes details for horror movies in particular that really add another dimension when you go back and rewatch them.
You should check out the Cinema Snobs reviews of the Hellraiser series. He's probably made some of the best videos on every horror movie from the 80s and 90s. Quite possibly one of the longest running series on TH-cam, aside from Angry Video Game Nerd. Check him out!
Would love to hear more, I love Hellraiser 1 and 2 but always felt like it was a film series that fast tracked going in a weird direction to try keep up with other horror trends personally.
Robert Englund was on the short-list to play Data. Bob and Brent actually were on the same short-lists for character-actor parts all through the '80s.
He is also the reason the Freddy makeup got stupider and stupider. It wasn't that the studio was lazy or cheap it was Robert Englund didn't want to spend hours in a makeup chair and just wanted them to have some appliances they could slap on his face and call it a day.
@@lutherheggs451
[it was Robert Englund didn't want to spend hours in a makeup chair ...]
Actually the make-up was destroying his skin and the solvents used to remove it were even more harmful than the adhesives used to apply it. (He once ripped all the appliances off WITHOUT the solvents because it was going to hurt less). Anybody can do it once, but Bob developed an allergy after a decade of daily applications and refused to do any more films if they couldn't stop using such a harsh process that was literally destroying his skin.
Micheal Dorn had the same thing happen to him with the Worf makeup, and he too demanded it be changed or he would quit that part. Much like the Freddy make-up it'd be changed to as few pieces as possible with limited adhesive to skin contact.
Everybody thinks film Fx makeup is just a long day in a chair and claustrophobia, but prolonged use and uncountable applications can have a real impact on a person's health and actors have a right to prioritize their health over an Fx team's convenience.
@@Dream0Asylum I've heard it said that Clancy Brown had the same problem with prosthetics for The Highlander.
Similar allergy issues with John Rhyse-Davies during LOTR production.
@@Dream0Asylum It’s crazy to think about how little we knew or gave a fuck about the health implications of all kinds of chemicals before the 2010’s rolled around. The 80’s and 90’s were the peak of people just being flagrantly poisoned by cosmetic and food ingredients.
If someone doesn’t make a compilation of all the Freddy impressions, I might have to myself. These are golden.
Lmao do it!!
i need this to be made
Do it. I second that.
Do it
Be the change you want to see in the world
I'm so glad Jay has such a large amount of patience for Mike's love of connecting everything to Star Trek as much as possible
tfw your friend knows your autistic so they indulge you UWU
anyway Raven from RWBY is a highly underrated character, in this essay i will..
It's a lot easier to have patience for the person who signs your paychecks.
He even asked Mike if the doctor was in Star Trek because he thought she looked like she was. Mike incorrectly said no, but she played Fleet Admiral Shanti in TNG. Jay knows things about Star Trek he doesn't know he knows...
@@mantis1s1k His memory is kind of nuts like that, like remembering Mike's convention experience far better than he does, despite not being there like he was
@@KnuckleHunkybuck lol jay is not mike's employee
A friend of mine back in the 80's never let me forget his shining moment in the middle of a crowded theater when Amanda Krueger said "bastard son of a hundred maniacs", he yelled "Just one!" and everyone laughed. I swear he told me that story a dozen times and each time it was like the first. To him, anyway.
The Freddy impressions go from spot on to sounding like doc brown from back to the future lol
Thank god Mike got to shoe horn in an entire TNG segment
Did Jay lose a bet?
Troi's potential mother-in-law from S1 is at 1:01:17!
Yet no mention of Robert Englund's guest spot on Babylon 5.
There was a while after the soul-crushing disaster Picard Season 2 that he didn't really make any star trek references. It's good to see him back to his old self again.
@@IVthHorseman Dan, is that you?
I had assumed Freddie could only stay in springwood because that was the limit of his fear, like the town knew about him, but outside of the town, no one feared him.
It's weird to make it geographic, though. The general premise should be that he's restricted to the dreams of people who know the legend. Make him more of a memetic demon. Which then could be tied in to New Nightmare really well since the films have made the "real" Freddy so well known that now his reach has extended even further. He's not just placated by the films, they were increasing his power. Now he's unhappy that he might start to fade away since his existence is tied to telling the story and being afraid of him
That's also how you get the further fourth wall breaking ending where they talk about how they've banished him for now, but for anyone who has ever seen one of the films or remembers him, he can always still come back... in their nightmares! Cut to credits.
*Freddy
It’s telling how Jay puts his beer behind the ‘Freddy’s Greatest Hits’ album on the table, and Mike has two bottles right in front of it. I love that
Duality of man
Mike's Freddy is fundamentally indistinguishable from his regular movie executive voice
I worked at the local hospital for a bit and there was no way you'd accidentally walk in on an autopsy. You took an elevator accesible only by the staff to the lowest level, walked thru a maze of corridors and at the end you found the place sealed behind what was basically a giant steel gate next to the lift used to move dead people between floors.
I work in a large one with a couple morgues. The one in my building is in a really odd place. It is on the lower level where our receiving dock is and employee badges are needed but it's just a little door across from where janitorial keeps some supplies and next to where some linens are stored. There's no elevator connected to it, they need to push them down a hallway and around a corner. I've turned that cormer before and found bodies in winding sheets juat sitting there unattended. Usually there's a cop guarding them (shooting victims, most likely). I came across a loved one in that hall just crying into the arms of a detective while people were carting various supplies around. It's not super public but I always imagined those areas were much more restricted.
With each new video from RedLetterMedia, Jay starts to show signs of transforming into David Lynch with speech, looks, and mannerisms.
"Get real."
"Believe it or not, Space Cop is my most spiritual film."
"Now, if you're watching... RedLetterMedia... on a _telephone..._ "
Well he better hurry the fuck up because DLynch stopped doing his weather report.
"So Rich showed me something called a PS5...I wanted to throw up."
IDK if Freddy Goes to Hollywood is such a great idea or if Mike's Freddy line delivery is just so perfect.
That Freddy in Hollywood premise could work if he came after hacks trying to make an elevated horror A24 style reboot
@capsjukebox OMG Freddy eviscerating the Elevated Horror fad would be amazing.
Robert Shaye was also the producer at New Line who told Peter Jackson he should make The Lord of The Rings three movies instead of Peter Jackson's hopeful pitch of two films, he secured us a great trilogy on top of doing all the Nightmare films. One of the few identifiably cool hollywood producers.
They already mentioned that in part 1.
Mike calling that kid creepy looking is funny to me because Mike looks like an adult version of that kid
😂😂😂 great point! 😂😂😂
The black doctor lady WAS on Star Trek TNG. She played an Admiral who approves the tachyon blockade at the Klingon/Romulan border.
Jacob "vomits" the souls that Freddy fed him in the womb. That's why Amanda says "Now, Jacob, unleash the power he has given you". Still doesn't make a lot of sense but there's a connection there, I guess, lol
Yes, and i assumed the "vomit" was actually an umbilical cord, since thats how jacob absorbed the souls. He delivered them back in the same way.
Just follow up the explanation with our RLM beloved line, "For some reason."
The full breakdown is I understand it. Freddy finds a loophole to be reborn through the dreams of Alice’s baby, Jacob. He does his kills, feeds the souls to Jacob with the goal of making Jacob a monster like him and a vessel for him to continue doing his dream murders, and reaching the teens beyond the “Elm Street children”. His plan is working until ghost Amanda gives him the “you have the power” speech, at which point he pukes those souls out into Freddy. Without the Jacob filter, Freddy is too weak to actually handle these souls on his own. They tear through him like the souls in part 4 did, reducing him to a weakened little thing. Basically reversing whatever weird loophole he found to be reborn. That’s a whole lot of ridiculous but I think that’s basically it.
This is correct... Freddy was stuffing the three souls into Jacob to corrupt him but he used the souls against Freddy to rip him apart or some shit... it still doesn;t make sense but I get what they were going for...
The doctor in New Nightmare was on Star Trek. She was Admiral Shanthi, who authorizes Picard's plan to prove the Romulans were secretly helping the Duras in the Klingon Civil War.
Yeah I remember her specifically from Star Trek LMAO Mike you failed us.
I just watched Scream 1 and 2 with the director commentary tracks and a possibly related incident happens in the Scream movies. On the commentary track for Scream 2 about 1:11:30 in, Wes talks about how the first assistant director would like to take head shots of people and paste them over pictures on the sets and you can see some of them throughout the movie. Not exactly the same as just industry production photos of actors, but a funny enough coincidence.
I can't get enough of those Freddy impression puns. "how's this for a deep cut?!"
13:52 Mike really dropped the balling missing the "Two FREDs are better than one" pun.
We need an entire vid of Mike coming up with Freddy puns and gimmicks for sequels
"How do you know these things", Mike says to Jay before proceeding to recite the entire Star Trek wiki from memory
Mike calling that kid ugly was such a highlight. So mean of him but he kept going on about it lol
I mean lets be real, he was ugly
Careful, the raspberries were first hit 😆
Fun fact Robert Englund did in fact appear in another popular Sci-fi series. He appeared in a episode of Babylon 5 called "Grey 17 is missing" He plays a cult leader named Jeremiah.
Now that you guys have covered Michael Myers, Jason, and Freddy... here's hoping for a retrospective on my favorites: The Clive Barker Trilogy of Hellraiser, Nightbreed, and Lord of Illusions
I'd love to see Lord of illusions redone but better. The concept is great.
I feel sorry for those lost souls out there that have yet to find this channel.
It’s been around for over 10 years, if you don’t know about it by this point you don’t watch a lot of TH-cam.
I envy them. Can you imagine finding this place for the first time again?
@@adriankay8410 a man can dream. I’ve seen every best of the worst at least once. To see it for the first time? Wow.
@@adriankay8410 I spent my wasted youth playing League of Legends while listening to Plinkett Reviews. I spent my wasted adulthood listening to Best of the Worst and playing Path of Exile. Time is a circle.
@@makani9004 not too late to develop a skill and become someone that you would like to be
The sequel where Freddy goes to Hollywood will be called "Freddy's got Fingers", obviously.
Thankfully it wasn't the other way araound
The intro transition of Freddys flatulence into the squelchy synth of the re:view theme was sublime
Is that what that is? It's an absolute banger
And that fart
They spend the exact right amount of time talking about the remake.
I love that Mike's ideas for New Nightmare is essentially to go full Gremlins 2.
Tetsuo: The Iron Man is actually a great experimental film with really cool cinematography and kickass music. Highly recommend.
i know jay is the type but i never thought id see it get a (relatively) big western shoutout
The color sequel Tetsuo II : Body Hammer is also highly recommended!
love it!!! Body Hammer is good too!
Not suprised Jay knows Tsukamoto
I definitely want to see it
Speaking of that cult classic, a Tetsuo: The Iron Man re:View would be neat.
As far as I know they've never reviewed a foreign language film.
That is a different kind of cinema
idk if any of them have had much experience with Tetsuo or the rest of Tsukamotos filmography? Would love it if they did though as it's one of my favourite films by one one of my favourite directors, currently been trying to seek out Kei Fujiwara's and Shozin Fukui's films atm!
@@219SilverChoc Jay's probably seen a lot of those
@@mdihero I am pretty sure they reviewed a Spanish film. Mad Circus, by Alex de la Iglesia. Let me check.
Heather Langenkamp herself played Starfleet Security Officer Moto in the 2013 film _Star Trek Into Darkness_ (on which her husband was the makeup department head), although you'd never know it just by looking at the character, due to the massive, watermelon-like alien head prosthetic she's got on.
I realise this may have been mentioned during the _Half in the Bag_ episode on the film, but I'll never know for sure, as beardless Rich Evans scares the absolute _CHRIST_ out of me, so I cannot possibly watch it.
*Edit:* 21:50 God _damn_ it, Jay!
They ruined my joke with that, dammit!
Because Mike’s not the only shameless Trekkie here, I thought I’d throw in some people he missed:
Nan Martin who plays Freddy’s mom in _Dream Warriors_ was Wyatt’s mother in _TNG: “Haven”._
Tracy Middendorff who plays the babysitter in _New Nightmare_ was one of the actresses to play Dukat’s daughter on DS9.
Fran Bennett, the doctor lady from the same movie, *was* on Trek playing Vice Adm. Shanthi in _TNG: “Redemption II”._
Thomas Dekker who was Jesse in the remake was one of Picard’s children in _Generations_ as well as one of the children in Janeway’s holoprograms on Voyager.
Clancy Brown from the same film was Zobral in _ENT: “Desert Crossing”._
I’m sure there’s others but why spoil Mike’s fun when he realizes all he missed so far?
Clancy Brown nailed that role (kinda goes without saying, he's Clancy Brown, but still).
Freddy having a family is my favorite part of that movie. Probably the only creepy/scary thing in the movie. Gives a whole new level to the character.
I'm a attentive and present father. Don't forget your lunchbox, bitch!
Craig Wasson (Dr. Neil Gordon from Nightmare 3) was also in a classic O'Brian must Suffer episode of DS9. The one where if Inner Light was actually done as a horrible torture nightmare where you live in a prison hell hole for 20 years but actually only like an hour has passed...
Was he O’Brien’s cell mate? Or was he another character?
@@ericbaker8781 Yeah, he was his cell mate. O'Brien basically was charged and imprisoned on a planet where they implant memories of prison in you (so you think you are there 20 years when in reality 2 hrs passed). It was a really good performance by Wasson even under the alien make-up and a pretty good episode overall I would recommend it.
Wanted to shoutout Les Bohem (screenwriter for Elm Street 5) who's actually super super cool and not a hack. Played bass with Sparks in the 80s and is half of Gleaming Spires, a really great and under-known new wave band. Guy's a legend
Yes thank you! I listend to Gleaming Spires the other day and I said hey that looks like Les Bohem from Nightmare 5! It just randomly popped in my head and I looked it up and sure enough! On a side note, I’m still trying to get girls through hypnotism.
The scariest thing about this video is that I can't tell if that Springwood poster was actually real or just a joke
Same lmao
Oh thank God I'm not the only one lol. I Googled it and didnt see anything.
Mike’s PS skills are insanely on point. So are Jay’s at this point, so it could’ve been him but I got strong Mike vibes from how perfect that was.
The only tell is that the Freddy image is ripped straight off of the 2010 film poster.
But no one saw that movie, and we’re all collectively saying it never happened, so I can understand why it didn’t register.
@@kaptainKrill Disney slapped a photo of an Emperor Palpatine ACTION FIGURE onto one of their Star Wars posters. A bad looking and / or inaccurate poster isn't necessarily fake.
I always assumed Robert Englund was slowly being possessed by the demon. He was the one making the prank calls, and you can see the demon finally taking over when he finishes his painting.
Mike's Freddie impression is just wonderful. Never get tired of that.
I love how off the rails this series gets.
Yeah, and Nightmare on Elm street gets pretty weird, too.
Been waiting for this. I could watch 60 minutes of Mike coming up with new one liners in his Freddy voice.
Welcome back boys, this time we will see the gang get into the dream world and actually review the movies with Freddy
Nice Earthbound avatar.
Omfg bro that's so meta omfg rofmlahgdgbv
When you said “the gang” IASIP suddenly popped into my mind, and now I want a spin-off of the gang facing off against Freddy Krueger.
Just in case no one has mentioned it yet, the photo on the wall of the unidentified male is a publicity photo of actor James Dean. I looked up the original picture and it's an exact match.
I don't remember where I heard about this channel, but I wish I could thank them. For years, this channel has been one of 3 channels that I will drop what I'm doing to watch the new video
The pottery break commentary track for Wet Hot is incredible.
Honestly a Nightmare on Elm Street/ Milf Manor crossover sounds undeniably amazing.
Thank you Mike for finding a way to talk at Jay about TNG. Very cool.
😂😂😂 I was dying when he went on a tangent about tng on a nightmare on elm st review
I thought I was having a senior moment and had accidentally clicked onto a Star Trek video.
Nope.
Just Mike being Mike. 😊
It's absolutely WILD how bad Freddy's Dead looks when you realise Rachel Talalay would go on to direct some of the most gorgeous episodes of Doctor Who ever. She really had a glow up.
Thank you, RLM, for making my day just a bit better. Been a fan since 2013. You guys are quality.
I love when Mike adds in some Star Trek facts
And the, "Fuck. This again." slouch that takes over Jay's body. I feel his pain. I had a friend who would work in some sort of I Love Lucy reference into nearly every conversation I'd have with him. He obviously did the same to his brother, because he told me that his brother finally snapped and yelled, "Could one fucking thing that happen in my life that doesn't have anything to do with with that fucking show?" That stopped him for a while. Then he started again, adding The Golden Girls and Maude into the equation. This time, I had to be the one to tell him to snap the fuck out of it, and deal with reality.
He became a MAGA, god fearing, far-right, not alright shell of his former self, and that was the last straw.
Mike's Freddy impressions have me in tears !!
I haven't heard that NES music in 25 years easy. Really fun that you guys added that
what's it from?
@TheCJRhodes the nightmare on elm street NES game
It always seemed to me like the ending of New Nightmare, in which Freddy gets pushed into the oven, was an echo of Hansel and Gretel -- a parallel I always loved. It's about trapping evil in stories, and continuing that tradition, not about killing a demon. Anyway, great discussion.
The boy also appears briefly in Addams Family. He's Tully's kid.
Tetsuo is one of the most inventive and insane movies I've ever seen. My local Blockbuster had it. Great stuff.
Something that's not mentioned about the whole early/mid 80s epidemic of m***sting at elementary schools and daycares was that most of the accusations were later determined to be in fact fake. Ended up it was a social contagion brought on by therapists and psychiatrists who would, sometimes unknowingly, implant false/misleading memories into the kids during therapy sessions and convince them of all sorts of insane things. It coincided at the same time with the whole "Satanist outbreak at elementary schools" phenomenon. The movie was being made in '84, which is almost at the height of the panic. The truth did't come out until almost the 90s.
Epidemic of what?
@@kevinkampen8661 an epidemic of young preschool and daycare kids, after meetings with therapists pushing the idea, falsely accusing their teachers of molesting them, abusing them and exposing them to satanic imagery.
Look up the Satanic Panic and the McMarten preschool trial. All of that was going on smack in the middle of the production of the early Nightmare movies.
@@kevinkampen8661 moe less sting
@@aaronhuskyman4509 Thank you
That's not true. Way to cover for the bad guys. Jeez, you are gullible!
Jay 100% says "Fart Five" at 1:20
yes he does
Mike would be proud
so sad about old age coming to his brain so soon...
Heh, I thought I misheard it cos that’s what I thought too until I just saw this comment.
The Moopies are a hyper-exaggeration.
A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984),
Dream Warriors (1987), Wes Craven's New Nightmare (1994) are my favorites in this Franchise.
They make a pretty great Trilogy in my opinion.
Those 3 are probably the best "movies."
Yeah I generally agree those are the BEST ones. I’m gonna have to revisit two after these videos coz I’ve know about the gay connotation to the film for a long time but I haven’t seen it for maybe five or six years. Four and five are the ones I’ve seen the least but I remember four being kinda entertaining. Freddy’s Dead is TERRIBLE but I have a soft spot for it coz it’s the first Elm Street film I saw (I was too scared to watch the early ones coz I heard they got less scary as they went on). Freddy vs Jason is very silly and maybe a decade too late but it’s the last proper appearance of Robert Englund in the role and as someone who grew up OBSESSED with the lead characters of both franchises I loved it as a kid. The remake shot itself in the foot a bit because I didn’t hate the premise that Freddy was a wrongly accused vengeful spirit initially but then they throw that away and it became very boring and also it’s maybe one of the most generic and visually unimaginative remakes I’ve seen which is a problem when you’re making an instalment in a franchise known for its creativity. Anyway rant over lol :)
I like 1 2 and 3 as a trilogy never liked new nightmare as much because it wasn't a Freddy movie necessarily
Mike’s Freddy impression is on point.
I love the teacher chanting "son of a hundred maniacs!" along with the class lol.
I love how every time Mike does RLM Re:View, it turns into a mini-Star Trek TNG retrospective
I’m actually shocked someone saw MILF Island from 30 Rock and made it an actual show
Holy fucking shit I totally forgot about that. You're a hundred percent right
What an absolute +lad+.
Get. Off. Milf. Island.
This is exactly what I said when I first saw an ad for Milf Manor.
I love that they use the music from the Nightmare on Elm Street NES game.
Thanks for that! I was wondering what the music was they were using.
Mike, the sceptical doctor is played by Fran Bennett. Look to Redemption Part 2, she played Admiral Shanthi who authorised Captain Picards plan to create a tachyon detection net to detect the Romulans supplying weapons to House Duras.
I could listen to Mike do a Freddy impression all day
Mike spitballing ideas for Freddy in a Hollywood writer's room is pure gold.
Glad to see Mike and Jay debunk the Freddy headshot mystery
I saw the Dream Child as one of my first Elmstreet films... the deaths in this one creeped me out so much but i wanted to see more of this Freddy character
Drop Dead Fred is an odd instalment to this series.
I remember being done with the franchise by Part 4, and I barely remember the plot of part 4. It was more like a bad fantasy action movie than horror, and no wonder, Renny Harlin was the director. This might have been the first time I was bored enough to walk out of a movie. By the age of 16, I felt I'd rather spend a Saturday afternoon in the mall bookstore than sitting in front of a shitty movie.
@Scribbled_Death than wait until u play the video game spin-off, Dead Head Fred.
Fun fact: Drop Dead Fred was distributed by New Line here in the states
Freddie got fingered is arguably an even weirder addition to the series.
So is Freddy Got Fingered
@@bravelilttletoaster I thought that was the origin story. Before Freddy started tormenting kids, he tormented his family with sheer stupidity and sausages.
Tetsuo is brilliant and by far the best film with Iron Man in the title. I didn't care for the sequel but aside from that, Tsukamoto (the director) had a really great run in the 90s and early 00s.
He's still going strong. I thought Killing was a mixed bag, but he did a wonderfully grotesque adaptation of Fires on the plain and Kotoko may be one of his more unusual movies. I wonder what he's up to next.
@@nikusenpuki3631 That's nice to hear, I had kind of given up on him a while ago, I thought he had lost his touch, but I'll check those out.
@@jeanfcp I think his work suffered greatly when he switched to digital video. He had such a thing for film grain, contrast and colour schemes. With a clean image his work lost a lot of its otherworldliness. Ironically that's what worked for me in Fires on the plain, because the reality of the war is shown in such a clean, banal, documentary-esque way that it becomes kind of unsettling.
Man, I like your writing room scene of Freddy. That was funny as hell.
I like how Mike ranted about the two gloves bit, but they already did exactly that when Freddy was a playable character in Mortal Kombat.
I caught than when I saw the trailer a week ago
For a moment I thought that remaining 50 minutes of this video will be Mike going through the plot of all of the Star Trek episodes that The Nightmare on Elm Street actors appeared in
Yes!
Thank you Jay for bringing up the 'Just the 10 of us' connection!
Always thought it was cool how the son was a fan of Freddy/horror flicks.
My mom used to be a high school teacher in Illinois, and one time when I was a kid, we ran into one of her students in a store a few years after he had graduated. I remember him telling my mom he had moved to LA and had a girlfriend named Brooke Theiss who had just gotten a starring role on a sitcom, which of course turned out to be Just The 10 Of Us.
@@sledzeppelin That's awesome!
I had such a huge crush on her back in the day....
Thank you for sharing Boss!
At 1:20, I noticed Jay clearly said "Fart Five" and I immediately checked the end of the video to confirm that he edited the video because anyone else would have spent ten minutes making fun of him for that humiliating blunder
Oh wow! It's so funny you two bring up the hidden cast photos. Actually caught a screening of pt 2 in Chicago w/ director Jack Sholder recently and specifically asked him if he knew whose photo was on the basement stairway wall at the meet & greet post screening, as I myself had never noticed it til that night (probably cause I still normally watch most of my favorite films on vhs) Anyways, He didn't have a clue and honestly seemed a bit perplexed, having apparently never spotted it himself, though he did say it would've been set production people who put it there. So thank you for shedding more light on this and the other hidden pics within the series. Glad to know I'm not the only weirdo who notices these things!
NOT having a Demon Freddy vs. Robert Englund scene in "New Nightmare" was a massive FAIL imo