Opossum Bud & The PokiChloe Drama...
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- ♨️In this upload I cover a fair amount of "Poki-Drama" that has taken place over the last few weeks. I give you my take on the recent PokiChloe being labeled as a “scalper” drama, as well as some interesting "Investor bro" drama that took place recently. Numerous Content creators are mentioned in this upload; @PokiChloe @CTR @OpossumBud @RattlePokemon @ShinyVert @PokemonRadar
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You for reals seem like the most genuine dude I’ve come across on TH-cam homie. Always a pleasure to consume your content and you always do a wonderful job. Can’t wait to watch you blow up like you deserve. I’ll be here for the ride. :)
@@TomHardysUglierYoungerBrother I honestly believe that you are more handsome than Tom Hardy. Don’t be so hard on yourself. 🫡
@@MimikBrew haha I’m tryin to slowly build my confidence back up, I actually was an opioid addict for about 10 years and that shit will take all your confidence away man. Don’t wish that shit on anyone!! Sorry to get real out of no where haha. Been clean for bout 5 years now and going out and collecting cards and consuming collecting vids on TH-cam has been extremely helpful in keeping me distracted. They say you gotta replace a bad addiction with a good one, and I get it now. Such a long winded explanation for why my confidence level is in the shitter. Hahaha
@@TomHardysUglierYoungerBrother Bro just don’t let off the gas pedal. Take pride in what you just said. 💪
Do people not watch videos? OB was simply stating that Poki Chloe should be held to the same standard as “scalpers”. He didn’t even criticize or attack her. He simply said “hey why’s it acceptable for poki Chloe but the community consistently makes a fuss over the folks reselling out the door” you guys are bozos I swear. You never keep the same energy. I don’t ever wanna hear complaints about scalpers ever again.
@jont3928 I guess people don’t watch videos. Wild, because MimikBrew didn’t say Bud attacked her. He stated - a litany of times actually - that although OpossumBud didn’t explicitly say what side of the fence he was on (even though if you are able to decode dense sarcasm, it’s clear what side he’s on), Bud did build the fence which only creates a segregated comment section and thus divided hobby group.
Not once did I mention MimikBrew said any on this….wild indeed
@@madslikescardboardand those people can make decisions for themselves. You can't blame someone for others choosing the side they want to be on.
did you watch THIS video? because if you had you'd know you're the bozo in this situation
Not calling mimikbrew a bozo. “You guys” is a reference to poke fans always bitching and moaning about scalpers but never staying consistent on who is and isn’t a scalper …again bozo
Thank you for saying this and putting yourself out there, putting a target on someone as a content creator will get people to pile on. I really enjoy everyone's content, hopefully cooler heads prevail.
@@TheGoorru I 100% agree and thank you 🙏
Supply,
Demand,
Free Market,
Equal Opportunity.
Well said!
Yup
exactly
@@BasicTrainer1 Equal Opportunity? A millionaire flies to Hawaii and uses her wealth to buy out a limited product to resell for 500% profits. Not something we all have the opportunity to do
@@LupercalRising Dates, expenses etc are pre determined. Equal opportunity means we all are given the same opportunity to PLAN and PREPARE. Some will have to plan and prepare more than others. Equal opportunity does not mean we all have the same level of ease but we all have the same opportunity to do what we need to do to get to that point. It’s a mindset. “Wether you think you can or wether you think you can’t, you’re right”
I used to be a fan of all of these content creators, but the nature of social media, driven my negativity as a driver for clicks, has turned me off. This is not only common in the Pokemon content world, but across other areas.
This was a good, calm take on the situation. Did I say what Chloe was doing was scalping in Opossum's comment section? Ya, I did. Was I mad about it? No. I basically said that if there were no buyers for such things, the scalpers wouldn't exist. We all know that'll never happen, tho.
Was I bummed when I got into the store to find out all the Hawaii stuff was gone? Ya, I was. I wasn't mad, tho. The people selling exclusive merch on the side of the Ala Wai canal probably did this before and they probably know how to game the system. It is what it is. Stuff selling out and getting flipped is absolutely nothing new to me. Been like that since I got into the hobby like 5 years ago.
@@nevercold808 Oh I’ve read your comments. 😉 yeah you always got great takes tbh. And yeah it’s one of those things that’s engrained in all collectibles it’s just always been a thing and always will be so it’s not necessarily fair to paint a target on 1 specific person. Even if you’re not trying to.
@@MimikBrewHey, thanks bro. I'm old. I'm over the drama and FOMO. I just collect how I like, which is pretty much just ripping packs, haha.
Been enjoying the content, man. Your channel is all over the place in a good way. You touch on a lot of facets of the hobby and it's very entertaining and educational. Great job, man.
@@nevercold808 Nevercold with the hottest comments 🔥 💪 Thank you!
O my this topic is amazing great video
I can’t fathom why people would recommend watching a rattle video concerning clipping screenshots of discord. Lot of things presented with no context or investigation. Lot of personal biases involved in shoehorning year old comments in the name of content creation.
Thank you great video seen a few in the past but subscribed after this one
Thanks for the sub! 💪💪💪
I don't think it should be the norm that people scalp exclusive products to sell to ignorant buyers at infatuated prices just to cover their Pokemon vacation. Idk call me crazy
hey as long as my trip is covered who cares right? 😂
@@Reach811 How do you know that these buyers are “ignorant” though? Maybe they know they are paying an inflated price and simply don’t care. I’ve met people who spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on pokemon cards without batting an eye. It’s the biggest IP in the world and millionaires love to pay lots of money for cards when they are popular.
@@MimikBrew 22:20 just using your own words brotha
yes you're crazy for several reasons.. first of all noone is forced to buy anything, the card isn't widely available, there's no set price for it, if you think it's worth that much then you take responsibility for buying it, secondly, it's not a vacation for her, it's her business - she promotes her shop all the time and takes part in these tournaments all the time, thirdly how old are you? 13? Welcome to life, where exclusive products that you can't find easily are expensive lol
@@drmonstervibesjesus christ you sound dense
Regardless if people are selling outside of worlds or on ebay it's still scalping and scummy. Instead of these cards potentially reaching the secondary market from the original owners we have a bunch of people pestering staff buying up all the promos at worlds just to make a quick buck. I don't understand why people are tiptoeing around the issue trying to make excuses for these people. If they we're her's/team's promos from working the event that's one thing but that's not the case.
I’m only stating Chloe isn’t even close to the first person to do this. She is however the first content creator to be blasted for doing it.
@@MimikBrewso she's still scalping . Why do u defend her and say she ain't but in the same breath say other do scalp ... what did she do any diffrent than a scalper regardless of the reason !? Being a content creator don't mean you have a license to scalp for what reason u deem nessisary. You content creators should think twice as hard befor doing it if u know this will happen , wich you absolutely have no excuse to belive it won't be called out so what do u expect.
@MimikBrew you said that flipping exclusive products the weekend of is cool and ok if your paying for an expensive trip. We are not talking about the super high price$ people are willing to gamble with and pay. What we are talking about is the act of obtaining exclusive items in a sneaky way inflate it and sell it for profits. If you can't afford a trip/vacation then don't go, simple. We are adults right?. Standards are different for big content creators, there is no double standards here. A real honorable reputable content creator would of given the promo cards to their loyal fans through a charitable raffle or something. Anyone who knows OBud knows we're he stands on scalping. Good luck handling yourself with all this bc know your in the fire too 😂 🕊️
@@johnnybongo9208 I didn’t say it was cool. I said it was a bad look. I also said it’s something that’s been “normalized”. Which doesn’t mean cool. It just means it’s something that’s fairly normal.
@MimikBrew Looking forward to buying a staff promo from your eBay when you get to worlds and support your scalping. Since it's normal now.
Great video brother.
Much appreciated 💪
Thanks for this man we needed a video like this and more like em ❤
You got it! 🫡
I have been looking everywhere for the Rob vs NN drama! Yes! Hahah
Keep looking 😂
@@MimikBrew Haha I was hoping for more clips but I, like the Internet at large, also am unable to find any remnants of the vids. I normally watch that stuff right away but I put it on Watch Later and missed the beef. Where's the beef?! Lol
@@benjaminkappler2255 They erased ALL the evidence…
Like you said she isn’t the first and she won’t be the last. Should she maybe have waited until she wasn’t there anymore? Maybe, but who knows what the market would be like.
At the end of the day, they’re staff cards & they’re not shelf items being scalped so other members of the public can’t have them. Staff cards are given to staff, so the average shmo doesn’t have access to them anyway! I always say that people can list things in eBay for what they want, doesn’t mean they’ll get it! If they sell, good on her that’s someone willing to pay her prices for them.
Also, it doesn’t affect me but I can see both sides I just don’t understand why it needed to be a big deal. Thanks for this video dude ❤️🔥
@@Kath_astrophe Hey thank you! I really do think it’s not fair to lump all kinds of “scalping” into the same category and try to equalize all of it to the same thing. Sure it’s not a great look for Chloe but it’s also not as bad as buying out everything then sitting on the curb to sell it 100 feet away.
Well said kath
Who cares how much someone sells something for? An item is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. If someone is willing to pay $1000 then it’s worth $1000. If someone is willing to pay that, then why would you look down on someone for selling it for that price? Would you sell something for $200 if people are willing to pay $1000? No you wouldn’t. People that get mad about this are just insecure about the fact that they couldn’t buy it themselves. Get over yourself people. And if price goes down later and you paid more than it’s worth next year…. Oh well. Prices fluctuate on collectors items all the time. Some go up some go down. That’s the gamble you take.
It’s almost like it’s a free market full of capitalism…. 🤔
Dang wish I saw the investor drama video...good on Nostalgia to actually apologize. I actually didnt think he would do that. I get your take that opossum drew a fence and made the community divisive...but if he came out and choose a side(which he choose a side)....he still would have caused a divided community. No matter how you spin it, I think there would have been no appealing to that point. He wanted to bring up something that is happening but you are right Chloe's not the first and last. the video of Radar a year ago about content creators already doing this is the proof. And Chloe shouldnt be under as much fire as she is for it. Thanks for the video.
Great vid brodie 💪🏽
Thank you sir. 💪
Gotta say I love your video and your take on it all. People seem to always suffer from "tall poppy syndrome" a whole lot of unnecessary negativity surrounding something that's part of every single event anywhere at any time whether it be pokemon, yu gi oh, music festivals, movie premieres etc etc it's crazy haha and it will always be apart of entertainment.
If you don't like something, move along. If it doesn't affect your day to day, it doesn't matter as much as you make it out to.
Nice vid bro keep em coming :)
Sorry it took me so long to respond on this. Been working all day and just tons of comments. But great take and thank you very much. 💪
Honest take and I respect it. 👌🏼 I live in Hawaii. And yes it happened, but if it was anywhere else it would be the same. I just feel like this situation shouldn’t have been said on the internet. It happens everywhere and in every hobby. To mention one person individually when others do it without having concrete knowledge on the situation isn’t right especially knowing the platform you have. In my opinion its irresponsible, especially if it’s part of the community you’re apart of. I’m not taking sides, if you need to hustle, then hustle. But to call out one specific person, without knowing the whole situation isn’t right.
@@Clasik808 Great take! Thank you 🙏
Brew, great video. All of the people mentioned should and could view this with a heart rate of max 85.
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This whole situation is really just stupid. People making videos on this is only keeping it going, not helping it.
Ill say this, people commenting on any of these videos, Bud's, Rattle's, yours, whoevers it is, are able to make decisions for themselves. Blaming Bud for not picking a side and then saying he let his followers loose is just a bad take. These people can make decisions for themselves.
And people have been criticizing selling of staff promos and worlds merch for years, its not new. Radar was criticized for his comments. Just because Bud didnt make a video on it doesnt mean people are just zoning in on Chloe.
This is just drama for the sake of drama. No real beef here.
Good Take. I mostly agree
@@MimikBrew btw no hate here towards you. I'm glad there's people out there to keep other YTers in check. Gotta have it to keep things healthy, so kudos to you.
@@RensCollectibles Thank you! 🫡
I just hate the constant “help pay for the trip” BS
I would have a lot more respect if they were upfront with it.
On the other hand you can say I’m a bit jealous. I don’t get that sympathy in my small shop when I’m “trying to pay for the bills” 😂
Double standards left and right sadly 😞
I don’t think you can blame a creator for their comment section? He was simply raising awareness - people will think what they want. And unlike opossum bud, it’s clear what side you’re on.
Ok woah this comment section is wild!! My boy topic and vid blowing up! 🔥🔥
You already know. 😘
Great video
Top video, mostly for being able to have the discussion whilst keeping things civil and being an adult. That said, I do disagree with a view points, whilst it OB not stating his opinion did open the doors for everyone else to state theirs, I don't see that as as bad thing. Whilst this is the internet so inevitably there will be the trolls and stupid comments, it is on the individual themselves to reach their own conclusion and to be able to have a civil discussion within the community (probably a super optimistic hope on my part that it would remain civil). Similar to your point on people being responsible for their own financial decisions, I see it as people being responsible for their opinions, how they present them and welcome spaces where they are free to express those.
Second, whilst Chloe wasn't the first and Radar didn't get discussed previously (props to the guy to being so honest about it), I don't think that really changes the base point OB was trying to make in that why is it okay for some to make money from buying & selling the merch and not others. Unfortunately it was Chloe here who was the visible one doing it and that got picked up. I think everyone has their own line on where it becomes not okay and his video could have been a great way for people to discuss what they think and why. Unfortunately it quickly delved into 'simp' comments etc which is a shame.
That said, great video and think if more creators and commenters took the approach you have here of calmly providing their opinion with respect then this whole place would be a lot better for it. (That said, I definitely ain't ever buying any of the world's merch from anyone!)
@@RustyShackleford0507 Hey man thank you 🙏 I definitely see your points for sure. Everyone is responsible for their own comments and perspectives. OP does have an uncanny ability to sway people to see things the way he is implying it to be. That’s usually good. This time things were left a little too up to interpretation. Imo.
Dan, at some point I would like to have a conversation with you when you have the time. Please reach out to me
Yup I’ll message you later
@@MimikBrewthank you
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My guyyyyy
I love the background on this video, the lechonk is staring at me😂😊
Me love lechonks
Gotta say I love ya brew but I'm on opossums side on this one .. do not agree with you she shouldn't have posted them for 1000 dollars if she didn't want ANYONE to claim scalping . It comes with the territory so either it bothers you or it don't . She will sell them either way so what does it matter in the end isn't that what she wanted won't people get over it . Opossum has the best takes and attitude towards this you guys don't have to watch his stuff .
Just some words for the word section.
And I thank you for that. 🫡
Making plays on trading cards is not scalping. It’s just knowing the market better than other people. If someone is willing to sell me a card for X and I know I can sell it for 5X, that’s just the benefit I get for spending the time it takes to become informed. It’s not like some kid was waiting in line for hours for a freaking staff promo card. They want the plushies and toys! Ppl who scalp those should be publicly shamed..
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I was very proud of how it turned out. 😆
One more question i would ask is "If the sidewalk scalpers sold their items on eBay would that make it ok? Would giving everyone in the world a shot at that item, as you mention Chloe did, make it ok?" I think the answer remains no.
Lastly - i want to directly challenge the point that OB is making the fence by bringing up the question without outright taking a side. The fence already existed which is evident given the pre existing, already heated discussion. It seems OB intended to create further discussion about the fence. So yea he pushed people to take a side and clearly this isnt as black and white as either side would suggest. But isnt it better to pose the question to the community rather than try to direct the narrative yourself? That seems far nore open and honest to me. It also is likely the reason OBs comment section is so active. He encourages this discourse.
Oook and there goes an hour of work. Lol
@@benjaminkappler2255 Do you honestly think OP was neutral? The words that were coming out of his mouth were neutral but literally everything else from inflection in his voice to body language certainly didn’t seem neutral to me. But that’s just my opinion..
@@MimikBrew No I do agree it was clear he had picked a side without stating it outright. But I do think the fence existed already and he, regardless of his opinion, was drawing attention to the fence rather than creating it.
In any case bro you have earned my sub. Keep it coming! I appreciate the responsiveness.
@@benjaminkappler2255 I TH-cam about Pokemon cards because I love chatting about Pokémon cards. 👌
I'm not picking a side or mentioning names, although I will admit I thought the resale of the merch 100ft outside the convention center was lame and did comment that on an Opposum Vid, who's content I watch daily and respect as much as Chloe's. But you need a shoutout for making factual and well documented content for sure bro, you also did the same with the recent x-ray drama. There's facts in this video that others specifically steered clear of. Hoping this video is the peacemaker for everyone. ✌
You said Peacemaker and I immediately thought of John Cena. I just want you to know that. So thank you for that and your kind comment. 💪
@@MimikBrew You said John Cena and I immediately read it in the meme John Ceeeeennna voice. I just want you to know that. Fr though bro you make absolute top notch content, especially on these topics, massive commodity to the community imo.
@@CollectorReddo 🫡 I don’t usually make drama videos, but when I do…. (Dos equis guy voice)
@@MimikBrew 😂😂 Legend ✌️
Hi there, love your content, just wanted to throw my two cents in here. Content creators go to the world's championships without budgeting, and then to pay for their plane tickets and hotel and food decide to sell staff promos that we don't know how much it cost them.....I'm a little lost. and sure other people talk about doing the same things, however it does feel a little off in the current climate of all things bad in the world of pokemon.
@@yvetteduplessis2591 I mean it’s definitely not a great look I agree.
11 minutes in so far and i think your best point is OB not knowing what Chloe bought the cards at. Drawing conclusions without a definitive set of facts to guide those opinions is usually dubious at best.
Overall though it seemed the intent of the OB video was to draw a comparison and ask why it's different/ok to do one thing that is very comparable to another. Its not identical but it's certainly similar. But to say others have done it before is no justification. Which is also part of OBs point. Why is it ok for some but not others? You wouldnt excuse one bad actor because another bad actor had done it before. You would try to adjust that bad behavior moving forward, regardless of who the last or prior offender was.
Regardless, the multitude of comments on each side seems to drive the point home that there is validity to the question itself as there is significant disagreement within the community. Many people agree with OB and many dont.
One thing is certain - the scalpers are taking advantage of scarcity to sell items for greater than market value. But if people are willing to buy at that price, then for at least a short period, those higher values are market value. Even before they were purchased, the expectation based on previous Worlds events was that MSRP is not really the market value. The true value is undoubtedly higher given demand. Chloe was doing the same except there was not initial MSRP for staff cards. She is taking advantage of scarcity to sell an item with high demand and low availability. The community outright condenns the former but accepts the latter despite them being similar. Why is that the case? Not my place to answer but the question remains. Keep your discourse civil folks 🤙
@@benjaminkappler2255 Your comment basically sums up everything related to it being what it is. Which is a grey area. Using examples of previous content creators doing it year in and year out was simply to imply not to paint the target on Chloe. Not saying any of them are or aren’t “bad actors” just saying she’s just doing what they all do. If you view it as bad then they are all bad. Or not then they are all not. Chloe was taking the brunt of peoples emotions while everyone else who’s done it was quite. That’s why I made the upload. Also there are subtle but real differences between promos and backpacks sold in stores. Thanks for your take. 💪
@@MimikBrew You make a good point in that despite previous instances of this Chloe does seem to be taking a disproportionate amount of heat. We shouldn't villanize one creator when the status quo seems to indicate such a behavior was ok. In agreement there for sure.
The beauty is that we have our own opinion. If you like it or not. It’s not always a good thing do. But being neutral is definitely not wrong. Here is another video being very biased. Picking one side. 🤷🏽♂️ pokecloe is not a scalper. But she ended doing just that. Ik Ik trying to get money back for the trip etc etc. but there’s correct ways to do that and correct words to use. We can resell items with out doing the same thing scalpers do them. It’s not hard. She made a bu bu and she got to own it. Possum didn’t tarnish anyone’s career or channel. He just pointed out a TH-camr and their actions that shows cloe doing a scalpers move. He can speak his mind and we have all the right to decide what to think. Not wrong. Again ppl doesn’t know the difference between re-selling and scalper. It ain’t difficult ppl. SMH🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Very, Very solid take. There are a lot of opinions about this that contradict each other, yet are still solid view points. Being open to both sides and why someone may do this is the best approach overall. Yet you are right, people are absolutely entitled to their own opinions.
Been watching PokiChloe and everyone else I follow in the Pokemon hobby lately and I didn’t even know about this drama! 😂 You hit the nail on the head on everything. But tbh seems like certain people are just being petty. Scalping , flipping exclusive items has always been around.
Dumbasses who pick and choose who to hate on just for the sake of bitching because they’re salty af it wasn’t them making the bag 💰
Too funny. Great video btw!
@@GoJetsGo92 Hey thank you! I’ve just always kinda had a “Don’t feel bad for people who overpay for collectibles” mentality for a while. It’s just a part of what makes collectibles interesting. The risk and reward related to timing your purchases is part of what makes collectibles collectible.
Just curious what were your thoughts on that couple who bought out that Costco of 151 Zapdos bundles and then shared to social media? Love the content man!
@@ChanceBingston They made a readily accessible and available product absent from the entire area that that Costco serves. Influencers listing cards online that virtually no one else truly had access to is different. IMO
I mean maybe the scalpers outside the store spent money to be there to scalp? Maybe they are people from the community of Hawaii trying to make a bit of money for their family? At the end of the day it's the same thing, people using the resources they have (proximity, fame, finances) to get a product at a lower price to sell for a higher price.
OB is the South Park of The TCG. Basically providing no new content but quoting current events.
He is a finger pointer kind of guy with an opinion.. that’s about it.
@@markmohr-t6i Thank you for your perspective. I actually like him a lot 💪
@@MimikBrewhis content just gets old. It’s always calling someone out and he has a real tough time taking it when they give it back.. I guess it has created him a channel but it’s not hard to build a channel.. actually it’s pretty easy. A little creativity goes much further than just causing controversy..
Everyone fucking scalps in this hobby ffs in one way or another weather its sitting on booster boxes or realising a cards jumped in value and flipping. Its part of it ffs.
As a woman who is viewed as attractive (and friends with Rattle, Chloe, John etc etc) I can confirm that there is definitely bias happening, as I have had it happen time and time again to myself throughout my many mediums of work. The fact that Rattle made a video - calling them out for their nonsense - and providing knowledge on worlds (with fancy adult words) essentially meant that he is a simp and wanting to sleep with Chloe. That in itself is showing a larger issue. Also, bud and vert can't claim to be an advocate for anything while creating and fuelling something they have no knowledge on. Also, as someone who is close to Rattle - we advocated for him to create and discuss the videos with conversations between all parties (including Chloe). Where Bud and Vert did not even take a single moment to contact her or anyone on her team in relation to the event/staff promos. Really appreciate your kind take on this and happy you're a part of the good people we love in Pokemon. :)
So you’re kinda mad at everyone involved in this situation it sounds like? Thanks for the kind words btw. 💪
@@MimikBrew ya kind of is putting it lightly lol
short and simple: i agree
@@ProfessorMetri The most simple tbh 💪
This literally happens in every hobby and every convention. Get an exclusive promo and sell it online. Pure hobby people get upset. Market does market plays. Idk why these guys are acting like this is some new revelation putting a blemish on the hobby 🤣
Ok cool then people shouldn’t bitch about all the scalpers sitting outside the venue either .
I don’t care what anyone does.. make money do whatever you gotta do I guess. She can do whatever is available to her..
What I find annoying is the dialogue from these bigger “personalities” about doing it to cover the costs of trips trying to justify the flipping/scalping/reselling whatever you want to call it.. don’t try and make people “feel bad” for your trip, just like you don’t want us to feel bad for the people spending $1000 on a card..
Just sell the stuff and if asked why, it’s cause you have a business and keep it moving. Especially when these people will make money from the videos they make, the merch, etc..
Also, you’re not 100% correct on Nintendo not covering costs.. just scroll instagram and there are a number of accounts that had to mention/thank the Pokemon company for access/accommodations/etc to worlds. Not saying they cover all the costs.. but if you’re going.. you’re getting some access other people can’t get and/or free stuff.. making videos and posts on it that all create revenue as well.. don’t cry about the cost.. don’t go then if can’t afford it 🤷🏽
Patience is the best thing in this hobby you just have to wait most of the time and get what you want at the right time everybody has fomo and that makes people spend more than they should I really wanted the van Gogh Pikachu but I waited and now I ended up getting one sealed in mint condition for 85
It really is all FOMO’s fault. We should just blame FOMO and call it a day.
@@MimikBrew lol correct sir!!
After card party 🥳 things went sideways fast i notice how everyone is going to tip toe around this subject don't want to upset anyone cuz they may come after you or sick there onlys fan members on them 😮🎉 scalping is scalping scalping scalping!!!!!
Radar is a huge shill and always been, wouldnt has hes a stand up guy. His girl was even caught bidding on his cards he was auctioning.
I met real b nate he is awesome 👏 he let me know Pokémon paid for the plane and the hotel no rental car….so poke chloe I would imagine same…10:34
Most of the scalpers outside the convention center were foreigners little English 12:57
as I wrote in shinyvert's video, all of this is a bit hypocritical coming from people who make money out of buying cards, grading them and reselling them.. and ALL of these "creators" do it all the time. Shinyvert himself got 10 or 20 (can't remember) of the Pikachu in grey felt hat cards and graded them. I'm sure he won't resell them.. RIGHT? Why is Pokichloe a scalper? Is time the problem? if she sold these after a year would that be ok? She owns a shop and people who have shops do that all the time, especially if their business has to do with collectible stuff. She makes money out of this and she did it with a card that wasn't available widely to begin with
10-20! Wtf!?
@@MimikBrew yeap, he graded them and got like 3 or 4 10s I remember
What should she just give them away then?
Being a millionaire and scalping heavily just hits different
Very sensible, you sensible person you. All players seem to be a little in wrong here, but really, come on, you'd think it was the end of the world.
@@attract_mode_ it’ll happen again next year.. 😵💫
@@MimikBrew totally
Crazy how my people in this hobby justify others actions, its a form of Stockholm syndrome where they love to be gaslighted and scammed 🤷♂️
Just being realistic about things.
Yeah you the only being level head about it all, I respect it
I think the people that have a problem with this are the ones that either wanted one/something from worlds or wanted to go and couldn't afford it!
What there's more people like tattle I'm mean rattle WTF is going on, community beef, yummy
So here is the problem with labeling people “scalpers”. Take myself for example. I grade cards and flip them. I can grade a $2 card and if it hits a 10 and now it is worth 20x what it was worth before, is that scalping? If I pull a $100 card from a $4 pack, and sell it is that scalping? Virtue signaling and using the term scalpers to label what certain people do as bad is just simple minded imo. We all recoup money from the hobby in one way or the other, the holier than thou crap gets old fast. I think you highlighted that with some of your points in this vid. I think people just like to have a boogeyman to be angry at. That may be an unpopular opinion, but I just don’t get worked up about people flipping staff promos or someone selling a ukulele for triple the price. Also if anyone wants a piece of Worlds 2024 merch pick up the coin from the Pokemon Center it is free and very cool!
Solid ass Take bro. 💪
I purchased one of those cards from her eBay store. And I don’t even care. Come at me bastards.
@@sbgandalf5946 😂 Based.
The issue is Chloe exploiting whomever to upcharge such on the staff cards. It's like if you buy a card from someone and then you just list it back up to flip it same day without saying you are going to resell it. Is it morally wrong? Yes. It is nothing like opening a pack and hitting a big card to sell it like some are saying lol. Chloe is a content creator whom exploited whoever to make profit, a fan, whomever. Was Chloe upfront about being a reseller? No. That's an issue. If I am buying to sell I tell people simply. More than likely she did not do that unless she can confirm that she did.
I don’t think any buyer should be obligated to inform a willing seller what they intend to do with said purchase. If you think that should be applied to Pokémon cards then it should also be applied to anything you can buy and resell at a higher price. I get your take but that seems logically unreasonable given how many different situations you could theoretically apply that logic to.
@@MimikBrew well it's more so morally wrong, as someone who deals with high end/commissions I disclose if I am buying for PC or if reselling(mainly people looking to offload) if she didn't disclose such and the people sold to her in good faith since content creator then it's not different than the signed sig market rattle criticizes. These people are simply not consistent in what they say.
@@Hellscollect Well that’s a good take. I see the similarities in the signed card comparison for sure.
@@MimikBrew yea, once someone shows bias towards one but not the other to me they kind of loose any sort of credibility
Here's the Grey argument tho. Why is it morally wrong? To who? That statement is very subjective and can vary from person to person. Something you deem to be immoral can be entirely okay for somebody else.
I like all them besides Vert 😅
I swear none of you in the comments actually even know what scalping actually is. And most of you have terrible takes on scalping as well.
Don't go if you can't afford it first of all and second of all this cuz he did it doesn't make it right. You can have a conscience and share. Or you can be hardcore in the mind and don't give a f*** which one is it.
my take: is scalping bad? in my humble opinion NO it's somewhat of a necessary evil to keep the excitement in this hobby interesting because without drama and hype most of this hobby wouldn't be as popular as it is now// if someone is willing to pay a certain price for something they're grown adults for the most part and shouldn't blame someone for decisions they made with their money. Now is Pokicholoe wrong for scalping pokemon merch/cards? YES she's in the wrong reselling something she got basically for free which is scalping in the truest sense there is no good or bad scalping it's the same concept she is definitely a scalper 100% and someone in her position as a community influencer in this hobby should know better but I digress. Yes she's wrong for that because she's a community leader is her own respective and is somewhat of a influencer in this community so for someone of her caliber to actively make it known she flipped something she got for free for $1k will damage her reputation considering the fact she makes plenty from this community as an influencer and her doing the scalping just disrespects her viewers outright because of the role she holds as a community influencer. If she had any common sense she should have done the sale anonymously. Ultimately she's indirectly slapping her loyal fanbase in the face. The other guy in your video isn't as well known as pokicholoe in this hobby bro./ so basically what I'm saying is scalping isn't bad but it's the way that she did it damaged her reputation because of the quick flip. Yes people have been doing it for a long time but the difference is she's a community influencer who makes plenty of money from this community so she should be held to a higher standard comparison to the casual flipper/scalper)
@@restockshock2710 So the 1st part of your response I completely agree with. I even wrote almost word for word what you wrote somewhere in this comments section. About scalping being a necessary part of collectibles for excitement etc.. Big disagreement on the last part though because it’s all based on massive speculation that I’ve already come to find out is completely false. Assuming she got those promos for free or even $100 is the problem. I can confirm that other even more well connected influencers were paying $500 for the promos that day. So she may have only been making less than double. Not 10x
@@MimikBrew Bro it doesn't matter if she made double or even 20% profit margins the issue is she's a very well known Poketuber who is very active is this community and has made alot of money from the community in general it doesn't matter if she had to cover her expenses like hotel, flying out, food, travel,etc that literally comes with the territory in attending these events, lots of other collectors/hobbyists have similar expenses and don't do what she did and even if they do it's seen in a different light because they aren't Poketuber Influencers who are as prominent as she is in this community. The issue is scalping isn't seen as a positive in this community and she's aware of that considering how long she's been here in this community. So for her to resell that card for 1k on a card which is supposed to be free or even $100 right out the gate is wild because she was already aware of the fact the community as a whole dislikes scalping and has had backlash on other prominent poketubers like unlistedleafs celebration packs and leonharts scam museum. The fact she was stupid enough to do what she did while being aware of the backlash is the crazy part here...common sense would say hey if you're gonna do it do it anonymously or don't at all...
@@restockshock2710 I guess she’s simply ok with making a little more money and losing some fans along the way. That’s her decision and prerogative.. TwiceBakedJake made a similar decision when he started rip and shipping on whatnot outta nowhere
@@MimikBrew twicedbake is yet another sellout example tbh there isn't any single poketuber who isn't a sellout at this point besides the OG PrimetimePokemon only person ever in this Poketuber sphere who has remained for the people.
@@MimikBrew shinyverts take was very accurate she's a content creator so should be held to higher standard yes he's also a hypocrite but he's at least addressing the issue here and it's a valid point
Bruh I litterally canceled my poke center time slot cuz everything was sold out lol 😭 thankfully I live in Hawaii so I just stayed home but I could imagine how disappointed all the families and fans that flew here from across the world feel 🫠 poke center really shoulda put a limit on purchases. Sht was selling out within the first wave of people they let in to shop :/
They did a lottery type thing in Japan last year I believe. Not sure why they didn’t incorporate this in an event in Hawaii of all places. 🤦♂️
there are many gamers who make their living from selling the event stuff they get to make money to live on and be able to go to the next event. Plus, with Pokichloe it a business she does sell Pokémon cards did people forget that plus she free to put whatever price she wants on those cards. plus, why was she the only one, am sure there were others there. Scalpers are just people who buy a large amount which intend to resell at the event to make a large of money more than what they brought it for mostly locals to the area. it was only to get views for bud and unfortunate Pokichloe got put into something she shouldn't have.
@@user-es6gq2gp3j Solid Take. 💪
I personally don’t consider Chloe a scalper for the Worlds staff cards! Now if she bought every single one available and/or carts full of those than it would be a different story. Def gotta say getting a handful of exclusive staff cards its not that bad. Yeah she put em up for 10x the price but thats just a smart business move. The people supporting and buying all this stuff are just as bad as the “Scalpers”! Now standing right outside the fn door of the place you got them like you just said is just GRIMEY!
I’ve gotten a large amount of screenshots and messages showing numerous content creators doing this to an even more ridiculous level last year. Not saying it’s good just that Chloe shouldn’t be the Scapegoat 💪
Unfortunately, the hostility that Covid brought killed any common sense definition of "scalp" on any kind of scale.
Everybody is a scalper to somebody in some situation.
I would of happily paid for $1000 who gives a shit
People who are funding this behavior are the heart of the issue. You can't get mad at the market for making decisions. Lambos shouldn't cost the same as a house (my opinion). If Chloe did something unethical to obtain the cards I can see the issue. But if she purchased X cards and the Pokemon convention didn't set buy limits she just played the game everyone else is welcome to play. Did she stomp over a kid to get them? If she did I can see the scummy-ness. But we don't have the context to show she did anything different than anyone else who got the cards for that convention price. At some point you are going to have to sell your collectibles. When you die they will still be here. Who are you to say when and how someone else should sell their stuff. It's crazy to me. Would people be mad if she sold them for a loss? Like who cares. Why get obsessed over other people's buying decisions that don't affect you. I think people are jealous or angry they can't make those types of quick flips and are directing their anger outward. The whole point of describing the cost of hotels and airfare is to show that it's a risky "play" to fly out to these conventions and aim to profit on promos. You need at least 3,000-5,000 dollars to put down for travel and dorm. You need to hope you can buy X amount of cards to break even or profit. You need to hope there will be enough buyers on ebay to purchase. This isn't a task for everyone. Most people don't even have the travel funds to put down for a play like this.
Holy F that was a STRONG take. 💪
@@MimikBrew Even if she got the promos for free she built her clout up to earn them. You can't expect everyone to have equal opportunity. She has a shop in london and has committed herself full time to Pokémon. That is a massive risk. To profit on a shop is near impossible. To all the basement dwellers who are angry at her honestly do the work and you too will be able to get opportunities. And again, if she profits that's insane and incredibly hard to do so. Ebay is a monster with fees. Like we're agruing over a staff pikachu promo card like it's not that big of a card. You don't "need" this one in your collection lmao and if you do pay the premium, it's just how things work
@@Pokemarquet very popular content creators have sent me lots of screenshots of content creators listing and selling 2023 promos for literally the exact price. SwolePoke sold at least 10 promos last year for $750-$1000 each confirmed
@@MimikBrew Yeah, she isn't using her clout to price gauge buyers. She's selling it for the current market rate based on other listings. Like you said in your video people bought van ghough pikachu at 1,000 USD. Is that really the sellers fault? I list things all the time 40-50% over market sometimes more if i'm the only seller with said item. If a buyer asks me to lower to a reasonable price I rarely argue because it's hard to make a sale more often than not. Also it's not my responsibility as the seller to give you the deal that you want. I'm allowed to value my property to whatever I see fit. As a buyer either improve your sourcing or find a trusted seller that meets your expectations. Don't put your agenda as someone else's problem. To the people angry they didn't get this card. Next year plan the trip in advance and do what you can to get one. Or save your self the fees and buy online for $700. If this hobby is too pricey you can collect cheapers cards. No one said you need all pokemon cards lmao
@@Pokemarquet Good shit man. Agree almost completely. You got great takes. 💪
I comment to him sometimes because i know the numbers arnt that high and he might actually see it and wants to engage and is a dude id get along with and could hold a fun or interesting convo with in reality probably about anything id imagine a group of people feel this way, before the great botting apocalypse and wave of internet children commentors of 2015 the comments used to have tons of things like this, funhaus had some great fun comments, sad how money change.. i mean times change ......
Alright i had to sit on this one for a minute.... So she is still flipping/scalping..... saying that she has to flip/scalp (or however you said it) in order to pay for her teams flight/hotel is a big time excuse. Essentially that is what you are saying. Ive only been back in the hobby for a year but i know ive seen Opossum call out other scalpers. Chloe is not the first.
honestly this video kinda made me feel like i had to pick sides more than opossums video, i really think he addressed it as carefully as he could as to try and not hurt her reputation more than shes already doing to herself. All he did is bring it to light so i guess i would conclude by saying, if she doesn't want the heat maybe she shouldnt scalp? 🤷
@@ChanceBingston Do you think he would have even made the upload if let’s say he knew she paid $500 rather than “$100” each for the promos? I’m only saying that because I’ve now heard from multiple creators from last year in Japan and now in Hawaii last week. The 10x was the big “wow” factor of the video with him even saying “Got damn!” And it sounds like $100 per promo would have been an incredible deal. I know for sure TCA paid $500 per promo.
@MimikBrew that's a fair point and I'm not sure, you could even argue that he used her name for the clicks.... like maybe? Not sure, however I still see his video as a reaction to her flipping, and as a viewer of all of your guys' content it doesn't really make me look at ya'll one way or another. I mean this is real life and i know every now and then there are just opportunities to make financial profits that leave everyone happy including the buyer. Id still say its a flip. I take back the scalping thing tho cause wouldn't she have had to have like.. all the cards? haha. Anyway, appreciate the response!
@MimikBrew but yeah I mean if she paid $500 per promo that definitely lessens the blow for sure. Wish I had all the facts
@@ChanceBingston You know what they say “ Mo money mo problems!” Maybe she’s actually in debt. Jk but I appreciate solid constructive debates about stuff like this so thank you very much. 💪
Wow, I look at too many Pokémon cards… every time you say ‘toxicity’… I just hear Toxtricity 😂
Oh, and ‘scalping’ is the basis of TCG collecting.
@@bscu0493 He needs more love so that’s probably fine. 😂
I get System of a Down stuck in my head 🤣
I asked her on her channel after the first video came out. She said it was miss information 😮 we are truly in the matrix. Cool 😎 good video 👍 the intro to the last was hilarious 😅 keep it up.
My opinion on scalpers.. dnt be late. They are a new variable to the equation. We dnt know others struggles. Not always a financial thing. Some is mental 🤯
I think PokiChloe should be above these activities. I’m disappointed in her decisions. I see Opossum Bud asking the question “if it’s good for the goose does that mean it should be good for the gander?” In my opinion, Rattle earned my unfollow by dishonestly presenting Opossum’s opinion. Appreciate your even handed analysis.
@@Sleepy4213 Solid take for sure. 💪 Rattles had a rough year, you can’t deny that.
@@MimikBrew He was legendary when he took down Blake’s breaks. However, since then he seems to be creating more problems than he is solving. Plus when I challenged him in his comments about how his response to Opossom was not in line with how he responded to the felt hat pika scalpers, he pulled some strawman argument about the felt hat pika theft and said they weren’t “similar”. I’m like “man I watch your channel. You flamed the scalpers like a boss and helped me skip the fomo”. He has just had beef with opossum lately and as rational as he is can’t recognize his feelings are clouding his response.
@@Sleepy4213 Yeah this is 109% accurate. You clearly pay attention. The point that was on fire during the Blakes break’s timeframe and it’s been downhill since is actually a very accurate take. I wish it wasn’t true of course
You can hagle with people selling on the street, same as OBO. So that makes it the exact same thing just one had a large known platform with an easier ability to get staff promos.
Imo any "staff" promo item shouldnt be on any market ever. But.
Also pokemon did pay abunch of ppl to fly out, hotels etc.
Also no one goes to worlds to hangout, they go for the sole reason to flip.
Serious video? (Sits up in rocking chair)
Maybe I’m wrong but should we blame the consumers for this like yes absolutely it sucks when people inflate prices to make so much profit but if there’s no market than nothing would be as high these scalpers would never buy an abundant supply not letting others who went to the event to get merchandise or get staff promos for cheap but maybe that’s just me
Also I think you’re the only person to say this is consumers job to price things which I yelled at in multiple conversations for rattle and opossum buds vid for saying this which I think if there’s any other criticism I’d give opossum bud is highlight those comments like mine where it’s not in favor nor against Chloe but blaming people for setting a Crazy market to begin with if no one went crazy and bought this gear at an extreme premium than there would never be scalpers to begin with it’s just facts but no one want to hear it cuz they want to be apart of the hype honestly I might just make my first ever video to talk about this cuz it’s need to be talked about but no one does
Everything you said is part of what makes pokemon collecting so wild and successful
@@MimikBrew I love the collecting part and I think it’s cool some people can make some money off a hobby they love. Sucks that some abuse it and then everyone gets a bad name for it I appreciate the reply. I wish these content creators would just chill and focus on stuff like old rattle vids or when bud would say hey guys you set the market if you don’t buy it it will go down . Hate that everyone is now at each other instead of taking criticism and walk gracefully off
Are we not all scalpers? We buy a pack for let's say retail. We open said pack and hit gold. Well in some cases we'll sell or trade said gold for said price which is way more than the pack price. No one says gold should be the price of the pack we pulled it from because someone is willing to pay a set price that gold is worth. So yes, we are all scalpers. The argument now ends.
@@robertf4157 He has Spoken.
That's not how scalping works. And obviously the content creator didn't even read your comment or chose not to correct you. Your example has nothing to do with scalping. Scalping exists because of scarcity. The stuff there has extremely high scarcity compared to normal sealed product. Scalping is messed up. And because everyone does it doesn't mean it's okay.
Not everyone even sells there hit from packs. The lowest members the poorest and kids do that and at this point i dont even think thats half the people.
no, u r not guaranteed to hit a valuable card so you factor in the luck "cost" into the card
I'm sorry to those who replied and did not see this as part satire. There is some truth to it. If you are lucky enough to pull a card at 300 value, some factors warrant that card's value. Popularity and scarcity. Scalpers sell products based on this as well.
recouping one's travel expense is NOT a valid reason. She chose to travel there for content etc
If Poki Chloe can go hunt down multiple copies of an exclusive staff promo then I don’t see why others are against people scalping other Pokemon products.
@@leop12768 I honestly think scalping if a subjective term and just unfortunately part of life and capitalism.
She'll be like the 99999999999999th person to do this, jesus, get over it. This happens in every hobby space, every single one. All sounds a bit sour grapes to me, you snooze, you lose!
One thing "I think" "my opinion" is that people are forgetting that PokeChloe owns a Card Shop now. Her, just like your LCS, will not pay retail for a card that your selling, then turn around and sell it for the same price. Shops have an overhead that needs to paid, and that is buying cards/collectables under retail, and selling them at a higher price to MAKE MONEY.
Solid take 💪 I pretty much agree
How is it scalping? Can I, average Joe consumer pick up these promise online? Hell, could I even easily pick these up if I shelled out to go to worlds in the first place? No… then how is it scalping?
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It’s not… it’s price gouging and extortion of the willing.. scalping is more buying the available products and then reselling them for even more because it’s all sold out
@@sirmaster8972 extortion may be a bit too harsh however this is a great example of price gouging. That I agree with
I don't think OB has to take a side or even state his feeling about it. It's fine for someone to stay neutral and just deliver what happened. Infact I have more respect for him not using a platform to push his opinion. People can draw their own conclusions with the information given. That is weird feedback. Also most the bugger content creators get their travel and lodging paid for
Goofiest drama ive seen
How exactly is this a bad look for Chloe? She sells Pokémon cards for a living. Nobody has the responsibility to tell her or anyone else what they can or cannot do with their own property. If you don't like what Chloe does, buy your Pokémon cards from someone else. Or don't. I don't care. It's none of my business and it's none of your business either.
The idea that Opossum Bud wasn't taking sides is preposterous. He not only took sides, he made a video urging his viewers to determine if Chloe is a "scalper" or not. That was stupid and extremely reckless. It's targeted harassment. Opossum Bud knows full well how toxic some of his viewers can be. To some weirdos in the Pokémon collecting hobby, "scalping" is a capital offense.
@@RickInMaryland Solid Take TBH. And Based.
I can’t take Rattle seriously, his voice is annoying.
I am simply amazed at all the drama. This is the business people. We buy cards and we sell cards. If I buy the last pack in existence and someone wants it, they are going to pay. Is that scalping? When did scalping become bad? There are websites that do that with event tickets! We are all bad people because we see opportunity and take it. Haha sealed product investors are really evil. Think of all the people that can't get cards because of them. We deserve everything we want😢. Ridiculous isn't it! Where is the love of this hobby people?
Amazing Take. Honestly. 💪
this dude loves censorship
Who cares. Any worlds (Staff) cards are niche and not populair at all.
If you want to have a discussion on why Chloe is being called out, or questioned when nobody else is, that's probably fair.
However, to say it's slimy for the locals to buy and flip outside the Pokemon Center but it's "just business" for a content creator is a bit of a stretch and wild to me.
I do think there's some credence to what OB is saying. Let's call it for what it is, scalping. Cards or merchandise, it's all the same. Let's just treat everyone the same.
The OBO shouldn’t even be a factor in this argument.. 98% of eBay listings have that and if you think she was gonna take $1-200 for those promos.. your crazy.. she was asking for 1k n she probably wasn’t taking anything less than 800 for em.. I get trying to recoup some money for the trip but 6k? Hawaii isn’t that expensive.. someone was just trying to keep up with the johnson’s
It’s the “Jones’s” I believe.
Who the Hell cares what Chloe does w her cards.. that's her business like if your worried about what someone else is doing with their OWN stuff your need to re evaluate your life. Like really. Get a life 😆 I can't believe this is a conversation. Like some ppl just looking for attention obviously like who that hell cares how much she's making or any of that. Mind your own business
Strong point 💪
i don't see any of these videos being wrong. you are also riding the wave by making a video lol. she's scalping and we can all say that good or bad in whoever's eyes. i myself see it as scummy asf