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Throughout the 1950s, aircraft designers around the world began developing a unique aircraft configuration, called a tail-sitter. Unlike conventional airplanes, tail sitting planes rested on their tails and used engine power alone to lift off the ground before transitioning to vertical flight, and returning to land vertically once again on their tail. The configuration, although technically challenging to develop, would allow aircraft to operate without runways, fundamentally changing how and where air forces could use their aircraft.
In the early 1950s French aerospace firm SNECMA (Société nationale d'études et de construction de moteurs d'aviation) began developing wingless test rigs to prove the viability of the tail sitting concept. At the time, American firms were also developing tail sitting prototypes of their own, But SNECMA would take it a step further by developing a tail sitting aircraft with a highly unconventional annular (cylindrical) wing. The cylindrical wing promised greater efficiency over a conventional wing by eliminating wing-tip vortices. It would also be more compact, further reducing the space needed for vertical take-off and landings. French designers also theorised that a cylindrical wing could eventually be engineered to function as a ramjet engine, propelling the aircraft to supersonic speeds.
The C.450 Coleoptere was constructed in 1958, with tethered flight testing beginning in early 1959. By May, the unconventional plane had achieved its first successful unassisted hover, even reaching altitudes of 800 meters. Despite early successes during flight tests, flaws soon emerged in the aircraft’s design. The Coleoptere proved extremely difficult to pilot. An innovative pilot seat could swivel 90 degrees, but pilots still struggled to judge the aircraft’s distance from the ground while landing. Without a conventional wing to provide resistance, the Coleoptere also had a tendency to slowly spin on its axis.
On July 25, 1959, the Coleoptere performed it’s 9th test flight. This time, the pilot was to transition the aircraft from vertical to horizontal flight, a challenging procedure that would mark a huge milestone for the program. The Coleoptere lifted off successfully, but during its transition, it suddenly became too inclined and slow-moving to maintain altitude. The aircraft started tumbling back to earth as the pilot struggled to regain control, barely managing to eject at the very last minute. The Coleoptere was destroyed.
A second prototype of the Coleoptere would never be built. By the 1960’s it was clear that the tail sitting configuration was a dead-end. It was simply too much of a compromise when it came to payload and range, and far too difficult to pilot. It was clear that vectoring thrust, allowing the aircraft to remain horizontal, was a more practical and safer solution.
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Ngl this channel is the personification of "quality before quantity."
I love this type of Content. Just need a bit of patient, and when they upload you will have a Blast
Right man
Like Ahoy
I agree.
Yeah as if we haven't seen this comment in every single video of his before
The landing pads for these should look like dartboards
"Sir where are the planes?"
"Oh yeah just climb on the ladder on that red circle with the number 100 and you should be alright"
If that was real I would use the plane like a dart and nose dive into the landing par
Drop bombs on the 100 point mark
"dartplanes"
"Nice landing, monsieur. Your starboard tail-wheel is right on OOOOOOOONE HUNDRED AND EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIGHTY!!!" 😂😂😂
Imagine stacking these boys on an aircraft carrier and not needing the runway. They would be able to launch the entire fleet almost instantly.
Imagine the entire fleet just crash landing immediately afterwards
@@keenanthornley7680guess you don't realize rockets land vertically now so the idea isn't anything new or impossible.
@@NavaDownSouth I was just joking my dude, I should've thrown in a /s there
Can’t emergency glide land
Who needs to land?
This is so awesome. My grandfather was in the air force engineer and he was stationed throughout Europe, and when he was stationed in France he told me he saw a plane that was round and it would hover like ufo. I’d always wondered exactly what he saw, and now I think I know. He would even say after that he started to see more and more jets being able to hover and that those were VTOLs
Interesting syntax. Did you ever go to school?
@@kenjohan no need to be rude
@@kenjohan maybe the guy's mother language isn't english...
My father told me another story of him at LeBourget air fair with the first demonstration of the Harrier and the pilot wanted to bow to the crowd a few meters from the ground but a power failure made it crash gently. Then, the pilot came out and in rage kicked the air plane...
@@Newtoon maybe, when the pilot started to get out of the seat the engine cut off, like a lawn mower. lol
“You want rocketships or jets?”
France: _“oui”_
I agree
I am le tired
@@Tenraiden I am le moonwatcher
Rocket jet like at Disneyland.
We
I feel like this design would benefit greatly from modern computers and gyroscopic systems.
It still can't land without engine power. Noone would sign up to pilot this thing
@@512TheWolf512 A parachute system could be incorporated for emergency landings.
what it desperately needed was an effective way to TRANSITION from vertical to horizontal flight. Because most of the "wing" area would have not provided lift, it could only have maintained altitude at very high speed. Most planes with small wing areas attain the high speed necessary ON THE RUNWAY which supports them during the acceleration.
But this thing had to take off STRAIGHT UP. Accelerating straight up means that you lose 1 G of acceleration right off the top!
How high would it have to go before building up enough speed to turn horizontal?
It couldn't even use the ground effect to support it during acceleration as some Russian aircraft did.
@@jimbarron9939 It needs to be able to do what the SpaceX's Starship can do, and it uses rockets.
@@512TheWolf512 helicopter much?
French guy here: Nice to see someone talking about this crazy thing. I hope someday you'll talk about the Leduc planes.
The French had a thing for ramjets in the 50/60's... I'll have to make a video one day :)
@@MustardChannel Still do today as far as R&D is concerned, iirc they are working on scramjets these days.
You single-handedly made me sit at my desk for 4 hours reading about these “planes” that were basically Ramjets with Wings, I thank you for that
"These French people are crazy" Cars ahead of their time. Obsession with sci-fi & technology. Luc Besson...
@@carolusmartellus2520 Also the British Sabre engine.
5:30
"Transitioning from vertical to conventional forward flight."
"It would be a *_pivotal_* moment for the programme."
Please tell me that pun was intended! 😁
Came to the comments for this exact observation.
@@HomebrewHorsepower Same.
It was, he ever so briefly pauses as if waiting for a reaction from someone.
The whole time I was thinking, that idiot should of been at full mil doing hundreds of knots an hour before transitioning, then BAM, I saw what he did there.... I'm slow.
I did not realize that. 😄😄😄
"A pivotal moment" - Ba dum tish!
I was looking for this comment. Well done sir.
* rim shot *
@@susangardini8161 Hang on, I had something for this
I *knew* this would be a top comment, Lol!!!
5:30 I was looking for this comment...
“It’s like an airplane, without wings” “That ain’t no airplane! Look!”
Its an ssto that doesnt go to the mun
MAYDAY MAYDAY
It looks like something made in KSP and in the best way
My pines!!!!!11
@@NickyYey ok... but what if the ssto can go minmus
1- Great narration,
2- Great animations
3- Great background musics
4- Great information
*Thanks* *!*
This looks like something straight out of Despicable Me.
Lol
i was boutta say, it got that gru energy lmao
Looks like a star wars design
_VECTOR!_
L0lll
The Germans actually had plans to make a VTOL without wings that predates this design, back in 1944. It was called the Focke-Wulf Triebflügel. The end of the war cut the project short. They were at the wind tunnel stage of development as the allies had reached the production facility.
Leave it to the Germans if you want some sci-fi stuff to come to life.
There was also Heinkel lerche. Which resembled the coléoptère even more.
@@freddythefriendlygiant3856 I forgot about the Heinkel Lerche VTOL!
I love the name
True the Lerche and Wespe by Heinkel seem to be too similar to be a coincidence lmao
Ever heard of the Snow Cruiser?
Its one of those weird vehicles that should definitely have a mustard video
One of the coolest and most epic failures ever for sure. Definitely worth a video indeed.
that thing screams AMERICA!!! We need that
Calium's got you covered, and he also goes into the Soviet version of the cruiser. Putting the latter here.
th-cam.com/video/f6R-h06IsJw/w-d-xo.html
Snow Cruiser? It is real? I thought it was a fictional machine in Clive Cussler’s book.
Is it the orange truck that travel the south pole?
It looks like something from Star Wars, Star Trek or Battlestar Galactica.
Pretty sure that thing would fit through a stargate.
The first earth-made gate glider
More like thunderbird 1
Hyperdrive of Jedi starfighters
Or The Last Starfighter.
@@bp_cherryblossomtree723 I was going to say Captain Scarlet, but not even Angel Squadron flew interceptors as classy as this one.
5:25 "A pivotal moment for the program." Dads around the globe approve of this pun.
"Is it an airplane, a helicopter or a spaceship?"
"It is whatever you want it to be"
given that it uses air medium for propulsion, it cannot be considered a spaceship.
@@milanstevic8424 Man, why you Gotta do our boi like that, he was just making a jokeXD
To be honest it LOOKS like a joke
it's a VTOL
@@milanstevic8424 rcs go brr
your production quality, both on realistic and cartoon like cgi, has raised dramatically, without losing much of its character. impressive.
Hard to believe he already has 1.2 million subs. Even harder to believe this was made a year ago.
“Requesting permission for LAUNCH INTO SPACE?”
“Doug just ask for takeoff clearance.”
Captain: Permission granted.
@@cannedbread2998 *captain
@@mr.malpractice6390 Fixed the spelling mistake.
funi pfp
“Thunderbirds are GO!”
I feel like this concept has more potential than has been really explored thus far. It would be great if it was revisited someday.
The best compromise I've seen so far is the F-35B: The lift fan allows for stable VTOL while the already maintains an otherwise conventional flight envelope.
Obviously, power is still a limitation (I'm not sure it can vertically take off with a full combat load), as well as logistics (VTOL from an unpaved surface, especially bush or a field, might cause the engine to ingest a lot of foreign material), but so far, it's the best compromise I've seen.
Why? It's just a VTOL. What benefit would it bring?
might be difficult with the new focus on stealth, which an aircraft has to be designed around
@PhycoKrusk I've worked with F-35Bs. They're incredibly capable fighters, but even cutting-edge VTOL aircraft aren't perfect. While it is capable of taking off vertically with a sizeable payload, doing so burns an enormous amount of fuel and severely reduces its combat range. They usually take off from conventional runways and land vertically. It is worth mentioning that they can take on a comparatively tiny runway since they can use a combination of their conventional afterburners and ram fan to produce extra lift.
VTOL makes this redundant.
why does the wheels look like they took them off a shopping cart
Cause they did
They're "castors" - undriven wheels.
They're offset so that they will automatically align in the direction of motion.
It's so that when it's sitting the plane can be moved by external devices since it has no means of moving itself perpendicular to its main axis.
It's the same as grocery carts because they also have undriven wheels that need to automatically align with the direction of motion. Castors are the generally used highly effective solution.
@@secondlieutenan Ikr xD
@@jimbarron9939 Sorry but we’re not here to grade your assessment, neither are we here to read a documentary in text form
@@jimbarron9939 and then there's the one wheel that's gummed up
These animations are looking better ever episode.
Keep this up and I enjoy your quality content instead if quantity
@Lind L Tailor I can agree here somewhat, as I have yet to see anyone actually guage altitude in meters (feet is preferred) but saying that using the metric system is somehow wrong is kinda hilarious tbh. Love it or hate it, the metric system makes far more sense than the imperial one ever will, and I'm not exactly sure why mentioning that it's older matters at all. Also, australia uses the metric system, and the uk (officially at least) also does. Furthermore, the reason why he measures alt in meters is because he uses metric for everything else, so for the sake of consistency. No one wants to read m/s speeds then altitude in feet, or vice versa.
@@justinyang.1698 "For the sake of the americans" sent me
@Lind L Tailor he is not obsessed with the metric system you're obsessed with the "stupid" system
@Lind L Tailor
1m = distance travelled by light in 1/300,000 of a second.
1 feet = your feet is larger than my feet and I am totally confused by this shit
@Lind L Tailor ohoho... Firstly six feet is not 2 meters, coming from someone who claims to understand the metric system. Secondly, I come from new zealand, and have been to australia quite a few times. Trust me, no one ever uses the imperial system for anything serious around here. Canada I'm not so sure about, but at least in aus and nz, I would challenge you to find anyone who actively refers to anything in imperial units. Ig you people from the uk think that every commonwealth/western country uses the same units... Thirdly, maybe the imperial system makes sense to you, but if you actually think it makes more sense than metric, you are either a special snowflake, or just ignorant. You may be more familiar with the imperial system, but that's because you come from a country that still uses it... You could say the same about us, but the reason why so many more people are familiar with the metric system is because it is just easier to understand. Hey, the uk was responsible for colonial expansion and spreading the imperial system throughout the world, but yet not many countries have actually kept it. Does india use the imperial system? Even countries in the commonwealth don't (nz, aus.) Lastly, have you yet to realise that the 'anglosphere' is not the entire world? If you hate the guy for using metric, and are gonna level petty complaints against his excellent content because of it, then don't watch... Also, I really don't think you have much ground to stand on when you say that you 'just don't like' the metric system. We sane people around the world (yes, all 7 billion of us, not including the us and uk), have way more merit when we say that we don't like the imperial system, because even as someone who understands most of the measurements, the numbers are inherently harder to convert. Every conversion in metric is a factor of 10.
Edit: I've just read the uk governments guidelines on social distancing, and they all say either 2m or 1m + (ie wear a mask), so eh maybe 6 feet in the uk was a lie as well.
Boba Fett: "Yeah it's cool but I bet it doesn't have a rotating pilot's sea..."
Mustard: *3:52*
You’re not telling me it has a rotating pilot’s seat are you
@@yaboicash6666 He sure is!
Got to wonder if ejection was still possible when the seat was rotated for take-off/landing... blow the nose off?
Knew about this design but didn't realise they'd actually built it until now.
ran to the comments as soon as I saw that lol
Oh oh wait! Thunderbird 1!
une parfaite illustration de cette "devise" " on n'a pas de pétrole , mais on n'a des idées".
its like a rocketship that didnt have the balls to go interstellar
LMAOOO
LMAOOO
LMAOOO
LMAOOO
LMAOOO
This looks more like something Gerry Anderson would have designed. "Thunderbirds are GO!"
Similar concept to Thunderbird 1.
IKR
Its literally TB1.
Now that you mention, that's pretty spot-on. He would've probably given this a GO!
Pilot after being shot down: “we tried doing a Barrel roll but it didn’t seem to do anything”
Aileron roll*
Good one xD
😂
@@adamofblastworks1517 hey, they might've used rudder
One day people will learn the difference between a Barrel roll and an Aileron roll.. tsk
I love how in that footage they didn’t build the guy a cockpit.
“What if I flip to the side”
“You go smack, now fly”
Omg man, the renders with the dusk sky look absolutely stunning! 😍 You're really upping your game every time!
It looks like they stuck a cockpit in front of a jet engine. And damm the art looks so much better!
A cockpit in front of a jet engine? You mean......like almost every other jet fighter?
@@ryanboles8590 a giant jet engine*
This channel should be in the TH-cam Hall of Fame.
As I was watching this I realized how much this resembles professionally-made documentaries and just the incredible attention to detail and excellence that is present in all of these videos. Kudos
I love puns!
"Engineers were ready to tackle the more challenging procedures of transitioning from vertical to conventional forward flight" ... "It would be a PIVOTAL moment for the program."
@Random Number It was.
Badum tss
At first, I looked like the whole thing would go sideways, but at the last moment, the whole plan keeled over.
Literally no one can said they've watched all of this yet except Mustard himself
Not anymore
Must be an elite few then. I suggest we get a badge
The Coléoptère made me dream when I was a kid. It was such a revolutionary design. It was so different from anything else that flew at the time, and have flown since.
1920: This new area of flight will introduce impeccable intelligence in the world of aviation.
1950: haha what if rocket was plane
See also Nazi Germany's Ba349 Natter rocket-propelled interceptor, circa 1944...and the Komet, also rocket propelled.
Hitler: *slams rail of cocaine* “MEER RAKETEN!”
Everyone: Hey France whats that weird thing youre developing there
France: My goals are beyond your understanding
“YourfriendlyNeighborhoodf104starfighter” what a freaking name
@@eldreadnaught7412 beyond your understanding
"I am 4 parallel universes ahead of you"
@@eldreadnaught7412 really huh?
Nice Reverse Flash reference!
When we needed him most he returns with best quality of a video
This video was the reason I got into aviation, Thank you
“The French copy no one, and no one copies the French.”
To be fair, they created the Renault FT, giving rise to the modern tank (you know, armored box with separate compartments for engine, crew and weapons, with a rotating turret on top).
I can't think of other thing people might have compied from the French, though. Gods know my country would do well in adopting the guillotine for politicians...
The Germans had something similar
@@sudarshanpujari5503 Heinkel Lerche
@TheSatanicTicTac it's a way of saying the french sometimes do things outside the box that works but ultimately aren't used by the majority
That exagerated of course
Obviously the TGV is inspired of the shinkansei
Obviously the peugeot 205 GTI is inspired of the golf GTI
But the Famas isn't copied by anyone nor copied
So does the Leclerc Tank
Or the Minitel (french internet before the public internet)
@TheSatanicTicTac i guess, they surely get copied a lot though, about half of the PLA military develepment have atleast some french in it (french AAMs for planes, french sonars for submarines, french helicopters,...)
"10.5 foot diameter cylindrical wing."
That's impressively small.
I had to do a double take, because at first I was convinced they meant 10.5 ft radius, rather than diameter.
s m a l l .
@@JB-bq2qj Look at the clip at 2:53. I can't tell if its ten feet, but its definitely not ten meters
@@scottcantdance804 At 2:53, you can see that guy is taller than the wing's radius. Assuming he is around 6 foot, a 10 foot diametre makes sense.
Not the first time I’ve received that compliment
Imagine an aircraft carrier designed around these, it would be like a rocket pod!
You can stack them vertically as well. Hundreds could be carried.
@@TemplarX2 dude... i bet in the future we would have that... just imagine a carrier carrying like 200 of these all loaded with 1 ton bomb or even carrying mini nukes... oh boy they would be deadly xD
@@kajmak64bit76 Mini nukes wouldn't be a good idea unless you want MAD *aka mutual assured destruction*
@@kajmak64bit76 well since we have rockets capabel of doing longer ranges then pilots that hit the target with the same precision as boming.. Why on earth would you use planes on a newly developed aircraft carrier design, that are 1k times more expensive instead of a regular Rocket launching destroyer??
or like a mothership.
"So designer innovated a cockpit with a seat that could swivel 90 degrees to remain upright, regardless of the aircraft's orientation."
Slave 1 fans: *Heavy breathing*
yOu MeAn BoBa FeTt'S sTaRsHiP
Mustard: Aviating Hot Dog
TH-cam: *DEMONITIZE*
People: supporting brietard lardson captain SJW.
TH-cam: Monetize.
@@theenzoferrari458 Who's that?
Is that a euphemism?
@@mr.boomguy Brie Larson.
War thunder: Write that down, write that down
Dude that would make such a great plane in the French tech tree
@@ommsterlitz1805 Two things would happen
It will be an Op premium
Or
No one will know how to play it
@@ommsterlitz1805 so true, could be fun to have prototypes in War Thunder
Well we already have a few prototypes but a special update with an event where you can do test flights with the said prototypes would be fun
@@desertfalcon1539 German tech tree planes and tanks is full of prototypes that never existed same for Sweden and Italy
This would be a meme
“Seat that could swivel 90 degrees...”
Slave 1 noises
Heavy Mandalorian breathing!
@@NexusDex yes lord vader
*Robotech has entered the chat*
This concept of a tail sitting plane came from Germany in WW II . The first tail-sitting plane was the Bachem "Natter" . The concept came up in the last phase of WWII as the Luftwaffe lost the abilty to defend Germany against the overwhelming masses of allied bomb squads. Only the concept of the experimental cylindrical wings later in France was new. Remembering all the german concepts for fast reponse, like the Messerschmitt " Komet", Bachem " Natter" or the Messerschmitt ME 262 "Schwalbe" , were pilots flow rocket engines ( Komet) or the tail sitting wooden aircraft ( Natter). These two concepts were to dangerous for landing, where the pilots often jumped out of these vehicles by parachute or threy had to die
@Plain Silk Tie what about the pacific theater
I'm not sure that the Bachem 343 would really qualify as a 'tailsitter', because it doesn't actually sit on it's tail; it was contained in a launch structure that holds the aircraft upright and serves as a guide during launch to keep the aircraft vertical until it has generated enough velocity for its control surfaces to work. Also, it was never intended that the pilot actually _land_ the aircraft -- it would be launched, fly toward its target, the nose cap would be jettisoned, exposing a grid of unguided rockets that would be fired at Allied bomber formations, after which the pilot would pull a lever that separated the rear of the plane with its engine to be lowered to the ground with a parachute to be re-used, the pilot bailing out of the nose section.
@@seanmalloy7249 but the Focke Wulf Triebflügel was!
Edit: or the Heinkel Lerche or the Heinkel Wespe!
Lol. Heinkel Lerche maybe?
There is a saying about French engineering: “The French copy no one, and no one copies the French.”
I was looking for a comment with said quote. Take my like sir.
like concorde
It’s always appealed to me, the AMX-13 series are extremely functional and look great
Except this design was first made by the Germans with a prop plane.
@@baginatora i mean the whole thing is that it is possible due the SNECMA jet engine
This aircraft was Slave I before Star Wars eve existed . . .
Thunderbird 1
Soon as the seat rotated I was like "Ayyyeee."
Would need to swivel 180 degrees though so the pilot could spin and look out the cockpit.
I want a legit Firespray-31, would probably be a fuel hog though.
That's quite normal: Every single design in star wars has an origin. None is "original", so it would be a misunderstanding to assume something is unrealistic because you see it in StarWars, it's pretty much the other way arround.
Although...Slave1's shape is inspired from a street lamp. So it doesn't mean their designs makes sense neither...
yup
"So listen to me Jacques... A plane... but in a barrel!"
"Oui, Jean Pierre!"
"That's it, no more wine for you two!"
"Okay René, sit in the wine barrel, I hang a rocket on it and we see what it does ok ?" - Two french engineers, 1966, colorized.
Yea, not requiring a runway and all is cool, but just look how gosh darn CUTE those widdle jets are!
"a pivotal moment for the program" I see what you did there... 😉
When Mustard uploads it’s always the best quality
Mustard when reading his inbox:
CuriosityStream: PICK ME
Skillshare: NO ME
"...And today's video is brought to you by Raid: Shadow Legends!"
The Coleoptere is such a cool design. It looks like something straight out of anime series from the 70's and 80's where they would be launched by the hundreds into epic space battles.
Convair: *exists*
helicopters: "Allow us to introduce ourselves."
Supersonic: no
@@fartboy258 yes
Harriers: Sorry, old mate, this spot of air is gonna be the Queen's!
speed differences: allow us to introduce ourselves
Carriage limit has entered the chat
MERRY CHRISTMAS MUSTARD! THANK YOU FOR YOUR AMAZING GIFT AND WORK.
the stability of the french prototype is damm impressive
That rotation seat reminds me of thunderbird 1, I love that show
I remember reading about an experimental plane back in the 50s called. The" Pogo" that landed vertically like that it had two counter rotating propellers....they built two...one survived ...its in a museum somewhere...
You can see footage of the Pogo at 1:25
Last time I was this early the Russians were still testing the Mi-26
Pivoting cockpit seat, huh? So basically, this thing is sorta like a 50s version of the Firespray (the Star Wars ship class which Boba Fett's Slave One is).
If I'm right, the tail-sitter XFY Pogo prototype also got a pivoting seat
@@etiennebordes4008 Slightly pivoting, yes. More like forward reclining to about 30deg than a full 90deg pivot, but the controls moved with the seat. Pilots still had to look behind them to land, which was likely more difficult to deal with than the vertically pivoting cockpit of the C.450. Also joining the ranks of the forward reclining seat was the Lockheed XFV and the Ryan X-13
@@Skinflaps_Meatslapper You're right, and even with that feature, all of them needed a structure to allow the pilot to board his craft, because the cockpit was so high over the ground. Manned tail-sitters were doomed to be impractical, just like a lot of others concepts from the Cold War era, but what a look they had !
@@etiennebordes4008 I'd love nothing more than to own and fly the XFV, it's such a cool looking plane...
"By July of 1959 engineers were ready to tackle the more challenging procedure of transitioning from vertical to conventional forward flight."
Scott Tracy managed it in the 60's with Thunderbird 1. Maybe they should've tried strings.
"Where we're going, we don't need runways"
-French engineers, probably
Wrong! German engineers: Probably. Google "Heinkel Lerche".
"Where we're going, we don't need roads"
Emmet B
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Pass the Champagne!!! Jean!!!!!
MAYDAY MAYDAY
Sir we are being attacked by flying washing machine's send back up
😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
lol
Good meme
10/10 would meme again
Looks more like a pringles can to me.
Man that 3D modeling looks great man! Keep up the good work
The fact they manage to get it off the tarmac is a massive achievement on its own.
At first glance, it looks like a rocket (yes I haven't watched everything yet).
I was just thinking of how much that Atar Volant prototype looks like Spacex's Starship SN1-SN8 prototypes.
Sometimes the dead ends of aerospace engineering history are as fascinating as its success stories.
Why does this look like a jet put in the middle of an onahole?
Well it is french
I feel like I'm gonna get ligmad but what's an onahole?
@@incog0956 you dont wanna know. At least from what people have told me..
@@incog0956 artificial female genital for masturbation I think
Or the Jetson 😂
This channel is so good and educating
mustard: *says anything french*
me: is it useful?
The TGV? Concorde?
Thoses things Mustard already talked about
"Pivotal moment" : the moment when it pivots to horizontal flight...
Glad someone else seems to have caught that pun
I caught that too, pretty great :D
Yes, thanks you midwit. We watched the video too.
@@houstonhelicoptertours1006 Jeez man, why the negativity? We enjoyed something that we saw in the video and we wanted to talk about it. It's not necessarily true that everybody caught the play on words.
@@houstonhelicoptertours1006 As long as we are calling people names for a harmless comment about the author's pun -- jackass.
Nobody talking about how this look likes something from Despicable Me
That was my thoughts too
Or Star-Wars.
Lol it's a French movie too
Military & exploration concept vehicles from the 1920s to the 60s or 70s have provided *so much* inspiration for sci-fi, it's unreal.
This channel is so awesome. It always gives me the feel of "I wish this technology took off"
The machine cans still be admired, in Paris le Bourget’s air and space museum.
In scale models only...
The emergency landing issue could be addressed by extending the nose cone, and inserting a parachute for the aircraft.
The flutter might be addressed by extending the winglets.
An interesting concept.
Same thing I thought… at least until technology caught up and you could do a proper tail landing under power.
Or you could make it so that the ring-wing could be detached and have landing gear in the main body of a plane for conventional landing
Me: I want SpaceX
Mom: We have SpaceX at home
SpaceX at home:
SpaceX at home: gone fishing
good meme
this is an amazing concept!!! something that should be revisited in light of modern technology.
How do you fly? Like a plane or like a rocket?
C.450: Yes!
Honestly if we were just a little more adventurous today and tried this, it would probably go better. The only thing they really needed to do in order to make the plane hover so much better would have been to split the thrust from the engine into *two* exhausts, which would have provided a great deal more stability and could have potentially changed the course of the entire design.
A plane almost exactly like this shows up in the anime series Macross (and its adaptation, Robotech). I never knew and wondered about whether that was based on something in real life.
Ok yeah! I remember that small plane in Macross!!
Fan jet!
@Falcon Shadow Nova I noticed that too. From reading some of Kawamori’s interviews it sounds like he takes aeronautics pretty seriously in his designs. I wonder if he was a fan of this concept but added the little extra wings for stability. When Hikaru’s flying the fan liner it even kind of wobbled back and forth which could be a nod to these issues.
probably based on the Focke-Wulf Triebflügel or Heinkel lerche, the Japanese are
Germanophiles, there's always some German stuff in their animations, which makes sense as they were allies of Nazi Germany.
FAA: "Please outline your flight plan"
C.450 Pilot":" Ever watch a fly aimlessly buzz around a trash can?"
FAA: "Oui"
C.450 Pilot: "That"
Imagine with technology nowadays, these vehicles would became real.
I was thinking that too. But I also was thinking that to help with spinning, you'd want to go with a dual exhaust in the back with thrust vectoring. However, like he said, it is a pretty pointless thing since we can do the same vertical takeoff and landing with the f-35 (c model iirc) and harriers. Also the osprey when looking away from jet powered. So in reality, it really is a dead end thing. I am curious though if a double engine design as suggested with the circular wing could allow for both jet and ramjet functionality.
@@JuffoWup78 yeah the osprey really is the future in this kind of plane
But now we have VTOL which allows for thrusters at the back
JuffoWup78
The F-35B is the VTOL variant, the F-35C is the navy CATOBAR variant.
@@JuffoWup78 Dual engine for redundancy maybe but The french could have stabilized this prototype with bleed air through one of the outer fins on the cylindrical wing.
"it would be a pivotal moment for the program" aaaaaaaah i see what you did there!
Very, punny indeed!
The pun was not lost on this audience, judging by the comments here.
It's ironic that now we have computer simulations to make things safer when testing crazy ideas but out imaginations don't seem to be as wild or inspired today as they were back then. Kind of ironic.
Hey apparently Beriev is still exploring a 2500 ton ekranoplan
www.beriev.com/eng/Be-2500_e/Be-2500_e.html
Yeah, when we looking back to post-World War 2 era there were lots of cool stuff like this cylindrical plane, Ekranoplane, and many more.
We didn't have as many examples of things going wrong, we didn't have computers telling us no, a lot of design back then was fed by a frenzy of imagination that physics was patiently waiting to slap down.
Although there is a big point to what you're saying... if the weight of no is so encompassing as to deny innovative thought because "it can't be done" and one accepts that as valid, innovation dies.
So to those that tell physics Not Today, I salute you!
Ok I can’t be too old to remember thunderbirds??
This is absolutely where thunderbird one got it’s inspiration
Petition for Mustard to make a podcast I can legit listen to this guys voice all day and pay good money for it.
#MustardPodcast
The french never copies anyone else, and no one copies the french, lol.
This is a Heinkel Lerche Copy...
French luxury items started with copies.
Usual French bashing aside, "no one", outside Russia and the States first, you meant 😂🤣😂 And he best award goes to the Concordski 🥳 For aviation fanboys (me too) a tour of the Musée de l'Air et de Espace in Le Bourget is mandatory to see amazing flyings beasts. My awards goes to the Leduc's 🥇
Convair / General Dynamics had 2 entries in the competition that selected the NAA OV-10 Bronco. One was conventional, but one was a turboshaft powered ducted fan that looked much like this aircraft, a near copy if you will and only about 5 years later. The main difference was that the entire forward fuselage pivoted so the pilot and nose guns would remain horizontal during hover. It was never built.
Well, the French built the most beautiful passenger commercial jet ever with the Concorde. And everyone did try to copy them including the USA and Soviets.
HE WAS BACK WHEN WE NEEDED HIM.
@4:55 They could have added a mini vector thrust jets on the cylinder connected with feedback loop system to an electronic compos and Gyroscope to maintain its relative position to ground and prevent rotation, this will also be used for stability when at higher altitudes.
why does this look like something vector would make
May I ask how you decided on that user name?
Yea lol
@@ianmccreary331 it's called swag
@@a.e.i.o.u2951 I think they had a different name when I wrote the comment
When You actívate the Fuel Cheat in Kerbal Space Program:
5:30 It would be a *pivotal moment*
Puts on sunglasses
*YEEAAAAAAAAAA!!!*
Completely captivating! It's unexpectedly engrossing, isn't it?
The wing must not have been shaped as drawn here, because if were radially symmetric, it could either produce lift towards the central axis or away from it (depending on airfoil shape)- in either case, producing no net lift.
Ringwings vary curvature towards forward flight to emulate the usual wing aspect.
"This is Gold Leader.... We're starting our attack run!
Merde! They came from behind!"
Its amazing how you turn 3d models into comic style graphics.
This channel is the defination of quality videos..
But mustard is high quality documentaries