Could This Change Air Travel Forever?

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  • @bobkrausen8208
    @bobkrausen8208 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4924

    An excellent summary of the history and milestones of the oblique wing program! I was fortunate to be working at Ames Industrial Corp when the AD-1 was being built. Burt Rutan did the detail design, Ames did the fabricating. Funny side-story: the government contracting guy thought he was releasing funding for an UNMANNED model aircraft due to the low cost of the contract.....he was not of course. A colleague, Ron S., who has sadly passed on, was the primary fabricator with a group of us supporting manpower requirements as needed. I participated in some of the larger structure layups for the wing and fuselage as well as in the load testing of the wing before final aircraft assembly. Good times. The aircraft was constructed in our Ames facility in Bohemia, NY and we towed the finished AD-1 (using my pickup as a tug) about 1 mile to the nearby McArthur Airport where a National Guard C-130 was waiting to whisk the AD-1 off to NASA Ames in California (no "Ames" relation) for final inspection and flight testing. During construction two designated NASA pilots would fly from NASA Ames to McArthur and visit our facility for custom cockpit "fitments". One NASA pilot, Tom McMurtry, was an especially tall dude so we had to make sure he could fit and function in the tiny cockpit. The aircraft now resides in the Hiller Aviation Museum in San Carlos CA. If you remove the fuselage cover just forward of the wing pivot you'll find the signatures of the team who designed, built, and flew the AD-1, my signature is among them. I have some pictures from that project in my collection including a signed pic from Tom McMurtry. Great story here Mustard!

    • @MustardChannel
      @MustardChannel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +565

      Thank you for sharing :)

    • @emittlame8095
      @emittlame8095 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +155

      Badass my man

    • @random_yt4605
      @random_yt4605 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +121

      As interesting as the video 😂💯

    • @thebuildguy7
      @thebuildguy7 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      Thank you for sharing, it's pretty inspirational! However, given so many years have passed and lot of big players have come in to the market, do you think Jones ideas have been further developed/tested for the commercial usage?

    • @kusumbudkhale
      @kusumbudkhale 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      Dude this is the kind of stuff I want to do in life! Such a badass story to tell someone!

  • @adamh1228
    @adamh1228 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16310

    as an engineer that commonly gets into situations where the design requires an "ugly" or asymmetric feature, i absolutely love this whole oblique wing concept

    • @zenebean
      @zenebean 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +479

      It put me off for a second, but it only looks cooler the longer I look at it. Especially the sleek designs

    • @tirushone6446
      @tirushone6446 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +182

      this is engineering not art school,
      p.s athstetic can help sell and such, but there are quite a small range of products that applies to. Most of the time however hard performace and cost come first. Anything that is athsetic about something as engeered as a passenger jet is either conincidental or done seperatley after other desige contrainsts have been meet. I don't know why so many people seems upset at the thought that engeering isn't art, because it's not. if you upset at being told your engeering project have no artistic value, then you probobley weren't an engeer to begin with, or putting disproportionate focous on a very limited part of your work.

    • @rubiconnn
      @rubiconnn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +116

      I don't understand why any competent engineer would sacrifice performance, cost, or reliability for aesthetics.

    • @GamingTrivia1113
      @GamingTrivia1113 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +279

      @@rubiconnn because looks help sell. Just talk to apple

    • @Bank-E
      @Bank-E 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      I doubt you're an engineer 😂

  • @shangerdanger
    @shangerdanger 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6037

    obviously the main problem is that it doesn't look as cool/pointy, and being pointy is very important for jets and rockets and stuff

    • @AvidCanineEnjoyer
      @AvidCanineEnjoyer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      7 million subs?!?!!?!?1

    • @elijahcampbell7815
      @elijahcampbell7815 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      Thanks Peter griffin

    • @Guzzoline
      @Guzzoline 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +354

      You must have seen “The Dictator” recently. Hilarious movie.

    • @nishaadjadhav
      @nishaadjadhav 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      ​@@Guzzoline lmao

    • @MisterNiles
      @MisterNiles 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      At least there's one person who gets it.

  • @tristandawson6417
    @tristandawson6417 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2787

    As an aerospace engineer, I think the stability and control issues are easy to overcome with modern computers and algorithms. However, I would be significantly worried about the structural stability of the wing, particularly aeroelastic flutter. This was a particularly big problem on the X-29 and ultimately led to its cancelation. Additionally, it could be difficult (and heavy) to build a sufficiently strong rotating pivot to support the forces generated by the wing. Would be interesting to hear others thoughts on this issue

    • @Wemdiculous
      @Wemdiculous 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      & the flying wing?

    • @seemlesslies
      @seemlesslies 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +379

      As an aerospace engineer as well this is one of my concerns. All of the flights were tested subsonic. The extreme forces that are exerted on an aircraft in transonic, and supersonic fight are insane.
      I'm very concerned about flutter and how the different angles of attack are going to be effecting the structure. In a Delta wing you have a symmetrical stable structure which is much less complicated. You're talking about nonlinear unsymmetrical loads. That sounds like an utter-nightmare. Everything I remember doing in college was ALWAYS ALWAYS try and make symmetrical loading if you can.
      I had to brush up a little bit, but apparently most of the surface area on delta wings is for subsonic flight (I didn't remember or know this). I knew supersonic they were mostly just flying with thrust.
      Another aspect is the efficiency losses associated with the coupling effects. It's why V-Tails have never gained popularity. Had to pull out my textbook "The V-tail is intended to reduce wetted area. However, extensive NACA research has concluded that to obtain satisfactory stability and control, the V surface must be up-sized to about the same total as would be required for separate h and v surfaces." Aka it all comes out in the wash and that's just a V-Tail.
      You will then have to make sure the wing is inside the mach waves for mach 1.5-2.
      The wing actuation on the F-14 was a nightmare. There is a reason we haven't developed another variable-sweep wing aircraft. The last one made by ANYONE was the USSR in 1981. I think that dataset alone should explain why we don't use them. It's just not worth the hassle to move the wings that much. Just burn your fuel subsonic and deal with it compared to the extremely complex structure.
      This isn't even addressing the sheer amount of extra fuel you have to burn just to go supersonic speeds. Roughly .2-4 subsonic to .7 for 1.5 vs .4 for 2. You generally want to be going at least Mach 2. However, then you're talking about extreme forces and heats exerted on all parts of the aircraft. So you're talking about a more expensive bird and maintenance and inspection costs through the roof.
      My last and final statement destroys it all. WHY and WHO is this for exactly? There is ZERO market for a commercial supersonic jet. With the invention of the internet and video conference this has almost eliminated the need for faster flight times. There only market might be the super-niche businessman, but at that point just make 10 seater private yet. There was one recently, but it failed lol.
      So with all of these obstacles I still don't understand why people keep talking about super sonic commercial flight. It's like fusion. It's one of those engineering things people love to dream about, but will never come true. I wish someone would just create the ultimate video debunking us ever getting a commercial supersonic jet already. It's a limitations of physics, materials, and cost. Until we find a new energy source, unobtainium there is no market this will work in.
      Maybe I should start a channel. I've been legitimately considering it because I'm so tired of talking about this topic. I feel like I address the question of supersonic commercial flight at least once a month on the internet, and nothing has changed in 30 years. If twitter didn't randomly ban my account because I linked a Linus Techtip video I would reach out to Thunderfoot.

    • @clementpoon120
      @clementpoon120 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      couldn't they just pivot the stabilisers as well

    • @adoatero5129
      @adoatero5129 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

      It's interesting to hear thoughts of an expert. It seems to me that the aim of this video even isn't realism, but to paint an unrealistically dreamy picture of something in the past that was never realised (probably for good reasons, which the video doesn't explain properly). In other words, this video is above all entertainment. The most important part for an entertaining story to work is tension, tension between good and bad, beautiful and ugly, cruelty and the revenge, and in the case of this video, what is and what could have been. People love consuming content based on that concept, and this video certainly provides, giving people a good dose of that "what if" feeling.

    • @Tom_Hadler
      @Tom_Hadler 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      I think the pivot is not an issue for strength as the wing is one piece rather than cantilevered from the fuselage. Once at a sleek angle, extra locking pins could be deployed so the pivot has extra help with strength. These could be a few feet away and benefit from the lever arm thst gives.
      However, I bet the handling is asymmetric, and therefore not fun or predictable to fly, even with complex helpful flight computers. It'd handle differently left to right. The addition of roll when pitching and vice versa must be quite a challenge, and annoying.
      It looks hideous and just plain wrong. Aircraft deserve to be symmetrical!

  • @busletic
    @busletic 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    1:43 So the person that, let's say, was 10 yrs old, could watch Wright Flyer, the first airplane ever to fly under own power and in just 62 years they would be watching the fastest flying jet ever made?! This is crazy!!!

    • @RayanM007
      @RayanM007 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      true

  • @KF99
    @KF99 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1840

    I’m sure this idea could find a great use for drones and cruise missiles, because they wouldn’t be so challenged in terms of structural design and often require folding/pivoting wings. And off course small and cheap unmanned crafts would allow to take much greater risks in terms of design.

    • @champoux3000
      @champoux3000 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

      They don’t seem great for maneuvering tho, would love to see it tested nevertheless.

    • @FLPhotoCatcher
      @FLPhotoCatcher 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      I would not like the thought of flying in something that needs a computer to fly. The pivot-point also seems like a weak point.

    • @flaviosalatino8192
      @flaviosalatino8192 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +208

      ​@@FLPhotoCatcher Looool, something that needs a computer to flight ....like all the commercial aircraft on the planet?

    • @FLPhotoCatcher
      @FLPhotoCatcher 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      @@flaviosalatino8192 No, pilots can fly many commercial aircraft without the computer(s) working. I would not want to fly on the ones that can't fly without a working computer.

    • @NickyNiclas
      @NickyNiclas 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

      Most modern airliners are fly-by-wire and at the very minimum, like "direct law" in an Airbus, there is still a computer in between the stick and the control surfaces. It just doesn't modify the input at that point@@FLPhotoCatcher

  • @theundiscoveredjourney_
    @theundiscoveredjourney_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1058

    The wait for Mustard videos is long but still worth it.

    • @ThatOneGuy5540
      @ThatOneGuy5540 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      Omg these bots bruh

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      @devoof 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

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    • @devoof
      @devoof 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@PWRGEUTTPshut up

    • @vehicles_n_stuff
      @vehicles_n_stuff 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      I think these bots have some coding issues…

    • @significantlystrangeboi9929
      @significantlystrangeboi9929 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not really, it’s just that we haven’t seen a lot of long form content in a while because of TH-cam shorts… 💀

  • @Patrick-xt7bm
    @Patrick-xt7bm 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +863

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      @heidekathrine4433 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

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    • @heidekathrine4433
      @heidekathrine4433 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      INSTAGRAM

    • @heidekathrine4433
      @heidekathrine4433 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      john joseph sabatier

    • @runningwithscissors7715
      @runningwithscissors7715 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      like hippo milk is pink or wombat poo is square?

  • @phoenix__rose394
    @phoenix__rose394 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4837

    Ya know, I love these videos, but damn is it always depressing learning what we could've had.

    • @ATBatmanMALS31
      @ATBatmanMALS31 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

      What is stopping you from having it? Don't answer that, I don't want you pulling me down that hole with you.

    • @zenebean
      @zenebean 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +323

      At least it is mostly due to a lack of funding for testing rather than a major flaw. Hopefully the idea gets explored in the future

    • @HirokaAkita
      @HirokaAkita 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

      @DanielDos2 Milliobs?
      Change that M to a B.

    • @davidoblast8291
      @davidoblast8291 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +246

      @@HirokaAkitaBilliobs?

    • @typhoon1575
      @typhoon1575 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

      There's usually a reason as to why all these cool ideas never go any where. Usually involving expense, and keeping things simple.

  • @smoketinytom
    @smoketinytom 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1537

    It might have been 116 days since the last Mustard video, but it's worth it every time.
    How many future engineers will credit his work that got them into the field...

    • @uh-1141
      @uh-1141 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      At least one

    • @sirmounted8499
      @sirmounted8499 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      0

    • @RobertCraft-re5sf
      @RobertCraft-re5sf 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@PWRGEUTTPSHOTS FIREDDDD!!!! I WILL CHECK OUT YOUR WORK

    • @chrisjackson1215
      @chrisjackson1215 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      @@RobertCraft-re5sf That makes you a clown then.

    • @minliu9999
      @minliu9999 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Quality over quantity, it’s quite different from other youtubers.

  • @henlostinky273
    @henlostinky273 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +228

    possible issues with this design:
    -airplanes usually store fuel in the wings, to do that here you'd need some kind of rotating fuel coupler normal planes don't need
    -instead of a nice sturdy structural wing root, it depends on the rotational mechanism bearing all the wing load which means it's going to be heavy, expensive, and space-consuming, a problem it shares with conventional swing wings
    -unless you're burning fuel totally uniformly across all the wing tanks the CoG is going to move fore/aft as you burn fuel and possibly also when you change the sweep angle, which is a possible stability issue
    -it can't use typical wingtip aerodynamic devices
    it DOES have the economic advantage that it would use less gate space by folding its wing out of the way during parking, which actually could make it compelling as a commercial aircraft vs. other options like the 777X they're designing with folding wingtips to squeeze in a few extra feet of wingspan.

    • @edwinhuang9244
      @edwinhuang9244 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Before anyone comments, I checked and yes, fighter jets do have fuel tanks in their wings.
      This isn't just a historic thing; THe F-35 has wing fuel jets.
      Though I'm sure the issues here could be dealt with with more testing.
      Testing that hasn't happened for a while.

    • @leovang3425
      @leovang3425 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      ​​@@edwinhuang9244even historically fighters in WW2 would try their best to centralize their fuel tanks because the main body was mostly empty, wings are vunerable to guns, centralizing wieght helped roll performance.
      With how fuel hungry jets are and the distance we need fighter to fly, no space goes unused.

    • @misham6547
      @misham6547 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Also it's pretty aerodynamically unstable

    • @Serlock4869
      @Serlock4869 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Commercial aircrafts fly numerous times a day for weeks / months. Putting the stress to a rotating bearing instead of two, fixed rooted wings doesn't seems smart.

    • @leovang3425
      @leovang3425 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@Serlock4869 It's not like we can't build reliable high load bearing bearings, it's that it's gonna be heavy.

  • @SoGoYoko
    @SoGoYoko 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    This was actually an Estes model rocket back in the 70's. Send it up as a rocket with the wings folded parallel with the rocket body with a B sized motor installed, at the end of the burn stage the reverse thrust that usually pushes out the parachute would instead trigger the wings to fold outward and the rocket would then glide back safely to the ground like a glider for another round. Este rockets were a very popular hobby for kids and adults back then. Thus, why I knew about this back when I was in fourth grade.

    • @tsm688
      @tsm688 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I had a version that turned into a helicopter! It had a heavy nosecone to force it to tip over, which was supposed to only pop up and release the blades, but inevitably ended up shelling the ground with the heavy nosecone in the process.
      They never said why they discontinued it but I can probably guess

    • @SoGoYoko
      @SoGoYoko 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We put a few together intentionally to come down like a lawn dart. Go to a large grass field and send one up like that. It would come down so fast it would whistle. Of course we all had to keep an eye on it so we could avoid it coming down. Amazing to see how fast those come down like that. In soft turf, they'd stick into the soft dirt a few inches. We'd do this with relatively smaller rockets, ones that require A sized engines. Just so we could keep an eye on it coming down. Out of sight and you wouldn't know where it was coming down.@@tsm688

    • @AirDOGGe
      @AirDOGGe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I had one of those rockets, painted it white. On one flight the engine pod slide out slightly just as the motor ignited, allow the spring-loaded (rubber band) elevator to move to the UP position as it would do for winged flight.
      As a result the rocket made several quick loops after launch and then stuck it's nose straight down into the soft grassy ground of a nearby hill or mound in the park. It sat there for a few seconds as the timing charge burned and then the motor pod ejected out the tail and the scissor wing opened up, making the rocket look like a white cross on the hill top, marking it's demise like some bugs bunny cartoon. It was the funniest thing I had seen in a long time.
      I saw the AD-1 up close a few times at the nearby Moffett Field Air Show they use to hold at the base until 1993. NASA Ames always had a few aircraft on display and sometimes flew them. The plane was SO tiny!

    • @olgagaming5544
      @olgagaming5544 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Haha i made my own rockets when i was younger by cooking sugar and kno3 and inserting it into a pvc pipe with a wooden nozzle and a stick.
      But I heard of Estes rockets ofc when looking for tutorials online. Half of my rockets exploded though because i wasn't doing that good with cooking xD I remember it helped by buying the cheapest 1$ artificial honey and cooking the fuel around it, it made a better mass without small crumbles and breaks that could explode

  • @ConnorPriola
    @ConnorPriola 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3656

    Typically, mustard talks positively about theoretical designs before demonstrating how they weren’t nearly as good as they seemed. This is the first one where it seems like there actually weren’t many downsides that couldn’t easily be solved with modern tech.

    • @pogo1140
      @pogo1140 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +348

      Yeah, the plane wanting to roll over on it's back when trying to pull up, or pitching up/down when trying to roll, all this at supersonic speed, is really not a downside.
      If you need a computer just to keep the thing level, you have a major problem.
      Aside from the destruction of the plane, death of the passengers, just the act of deflecting control surfaces to counter act those uncontrolled rotation cause drag, slowing down the plane, wasting fuel, reducing range.
      We tolerate that in fighter jets that require extreme maneuverability, but we don't accept it in transports.

    • @termitreter6545
      @termitreter6545 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +378

      Tbh, this video feels like the section with the problems was just kinda missing. If the oblique wing was really such an amazing idea, then it shouldve been taken up by military or civil aviation. I usually like this channel, but this video seems a bit lazy, like theres something missing.
      It just doesnt make sense. Theres a ton of money put in RnD for aircraft, theres constantly studies into supersonic planes, electric planes, new types of drones, etc. Both in civil and military aviation. I dont buy that nobody wants to experiment with obliques wings, if they were really that good.

    • @ConnorPriola
      @ConnorPriola 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +206

      @@pogo1140 his video about flying wings has a similar outcome, with newer computers making the flying wing viable in ways it wasn’t when it was first theorized. That’s kinda the point of improving technologies, is that it makes things previously impossible, possible.

    • @fimbulvntr
      @fimbulvntr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +298

      ​@@pogo1140What the fuck are you talking about? The fly by wire system for this thing looks like it can be handled by a fucking arduino.
      Heck it doesn't even require a computer, a simple system of gears attached to the stick could do it
      you can give this project to a first year aerospace engineer as an end-of-semester assignment and I bet half the class can produce something workable
      I wish I were joking but this seriously look like a non-issue.

    • @kisaragi_san1378
      @kisaragi_san1378 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what i think is more likely is that no serious design studies have been funded or taken, and any that have may have not made it into the public domain. @@termitreter6545

  • @ROTSTarge
    @ROTSTarge 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +157

    For those curious, you can see the AD-1 in person at the Hiller Air Museum is San Carlos, CA, easily reached from SF if you find yourself in the bay!

    • @PrestonRogers-j8k
      @PrestonRogers-j8k 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Shit I wish I knew about this before moving to LA :/

    • @ROTSTarge
      @ROTSTarge 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yea I had to move out too, I miss it ;3; @@PrestonRogers-j8k

    • @zrspangle
      @zrspangle 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Love hiller, so many cool planes and helicopters

    • @KentPeterson-dz9pp
      @KentPeterson-dz9pp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I stayed in a hotel in San Carlos one night when looked out the window of the hotel and saw a sign that I initially thought said, "Hitler Air Museum". For a second there I thought I was experiencing a Twilight Zone moment.

  • @thomasxl200
    @thomasxl200 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +574

    Me before the video: "This looks pretty silly"
    Me now: "Sideways wings are the future of air travel, I'm gonna take over Boeing"

    • @Moonstone-Redux
      @Moonstone-Redux 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      Boeing's merger with McDonnell-Douglas and its consequences have been a disaster for human flight.

    • @v1_rotate638
      @v1_rotate638 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Moonstone-Reduxagreed

    • @v1_rotate638
      @v1_rotate638 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      You’d run Boeing better than its current management

    • @Serlock4869
      @Serlock4869 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      At 10:56 the plane looks like it's doing a superman flight it looks cool!

    • @mariemccann5895
      @mariemccann5895 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't you think they've already killed enough people of late?

  • @Arturo4586
    @Arturo4586 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    R T Jones came up with the idea and demonstratéd it with a small model. In fact a full scale air craft was built. There were no control problems. We adopted the system for a 5 1/2 gun fired missile called ERGAM increasing the gliding range as the Mach number decreased below one. The glide ratio is proportional to the span. So, after the supersonic climb , the wing was straitened and the range was very high , way past the orignal powered Extended Range Guided Missile.

  • @Sashazur
    @Sashazur 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +399

    Back in the 70s or 80s I built an Estes model rocket kit that had a rotating wing. It launched with the wing parallel to the fuselage, and then when the engine burned out, instead of popping a parachute, the wing swung out so it could glide back down. It did work!

    • @detocquevi11e
      @detocquevi11e 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      The video's thumbnail reminded me of that exact model rocket which I also built, and was the reason I clicked on the video. :)

    • @djhaloeight
      @djhaloeight 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      I built a bunch of Estes rockets in middle school in the mid 90s. They had some cool designs. I remember one that didn’t have a parachute, but had three rotors that unfolded and spun like a helicopter to slowly lower it. Also one that when the ‘chute popped, it took a picture of the ground with 110 film. Good memories.

    • @detocquevi11e
      @detocquevi11e 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@djhaloeighthah, I lusted over that picture-taking rocket, but never got it.

    • @derekheim8172
      @derekheim8172 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Toughest kit I made. On the last flight (naturally) the pivot failed to fully extend and it hit too hard. But on a windless day it would glide perfectly. The instructions are online! www.spacemodeling.org/jimz/estes/est1265.pdf

    • @CynicAtLarge
      @CynicAtLarge 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Same here. It was in the 70s. Nothing new in this design - didn't change air travel 50 years ago, won't change it now.

  • @AmpedUpEV
    @AmpedUpEV 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +886

    I'm so glad I ran into this video. RT was my professor and I remember spending a bit of time at his home in the Los Altos foothills overlooking NASA Ames Research Center where he used to work. I remember making and flying oblique wing gliders that demonstrated the inherent stability of the design. When I asked him about the cost and complexity of the control system, he pulled out an HP 12C hand-held battery powered calculator. He said one of those had sufficient memory and speed to control it throughout the flight regime and if you needed redundancy, he said you could just buy a half a dozen of them and string them together! Although he was one of the most important, if not the most important aerodynamic theorists in supersonic flight (inventor of delta, swept back, and oblique wing configurations), he had no formal degrees. He told me he started as a mechanic working with a wing walking outfit and took night lessons with the German aerodynamicist Max M. Munk. Back then, there were no aeronautics and astronautics engineering degrees to earn. He worked as an elevator boy at the Boeing headquarters in Washington, because couldn't get a job as an engineer. So he'd listen in on conversations between the engineers in the elevator to hear the problems they could not solve. RT would then go home and solve them himself. Later when he saw the engineers, he'd say something like, "have you tried this for a solution". They were shocked that an elevator boy could be right so many times and they later learned what a great mind he had and brought him into the technical organization and the rest is history. His close friend told me that also because he didn't have a degree, Congress would have to make to special allowances to give him pay raises! I think he would have enjoyed your beautifully produced video. Nice job!

    • @NewsChannel-y4g
      @NewsChannel-y4g 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      Good Will Hunting

    • @AmpedUpEV
      @AmpedUpEV 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      exactly!@@NewsChannel-y4g

    • @eduardoguerra4487
      @eduardoguerra4487 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      This was so cool to read

    • @noonedude101
      @noonedude101 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      Well this is the most awesome comment I’ve ever read on TH-cam

    • @Thee-_-Outlier
      @Thee-_-Outlier 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​​@@noonedude101yea, and it's for the same reason the movie/book 'catch me if you can' was the greatest biography ever told, because it's a lie

  • @dozer158
    @dozer158 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +979

    A lot of copycats out there, but Mustard is still the Best. Just flat-out stunning images, and raw takes on engineering marvels. Best channel for aerospace history and engineering on TH-cam and Nebula.

    • @shibarmyburnz1978
      @shibarmyburnz1978 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
      You really
      Hahahahahshahshahhahaahhahaahaha

    • @feuby8480
      @feuby8480 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      totally agree on that. I always watch it straight.

    • @rifqiathafif9962
      @rifqiathafif9962 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      There is one channel who also likes to explain a prototype of a vehicle, the TH-cam name is Found and Explained

    • @monaclemin4807
      @monaclemin4807 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      im not complaining. gives us something else to do while we wait for mustard to post once in a blue moon

    • @NoSaysJo
      @NoSaysJo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@feuby8480yep

  • @JDobson-p9q
    @JDobson-p9q 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    I remember building an Estes model rocket based on this concept back in the early-mid 70's. It was called the Scissor Wing Transport. It launched with the wing stowed and when the recovery charge separated the booster, it released the wing which pivoted into position (via orthodontic rubber bands) and the fuselage came down as a glider. Coolest rocket I ever built.

    • @VictorQuesada-bl1xk
      @VictorQuesada-bl1xk 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      OOHHH That's a cool idea!

    • @brianmichaeldevault
      @brianmichaeldevault 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I miss Estes model rockets so much! So many great memories out in that farm field😢

    • @louc6635
      @louc6635 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Came here to say this. Cool concept but on its first flight when the wing moved into position it snapped off and the thing crashed to the ground a couple miles away. Never found it. I had high hopes for that one. I didn't really wonder about why I never saw them in real life.

  • @ianliterovich7651
    @ianliterovich7651 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +216

    There are two ways the universe reminds me I'm a dad - seeing my beautiful 2-year-old, and getting obscenely excited about a new history of aviation video from Mustard.

    • @hxn1_
      @hxn1_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      ​@PWRGEUTTP you're a middle aged man making videos called "calling your missing father at 3am" im not sure about your reliability 💀💀💀

    • @PiotrBarcz
      @PiotrBarcz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @PWRGEUTTP You're content has zero value at all and is clearly terrible in video quality as well, unacceptable on a platform like this in this day and age.

    • @heathb4319
      @heathb4319 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Please report and remove the very deranged person PWREGEUTTP commenting weird stuff.

  • @davidthomas2870
    @davidthomas2870 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +515

    I can't help but also think a naval oblique wing fighter might also have advantages on carriers in storage. If the wing were capable of swinging fully in line with the body, you might be able to fit 3 aircraft in the space of 2 folding wing aircraft. I can't help but feel like they just look strange and alien.

    • @EverydayNormieMadafacka
      @EverydayNormieMadafacka 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      That’s just a cherry on top

    • @marko7843
      @marko7843 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      You are right, I was thinking the same thing. Slower takeoffs and landings, better fuel economy when loitering AND narrower storage...

    • @lordsiomai
      @lordsiomai 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Dang, like a bunch of flying folding knives. I'd love to see that

    • @ARockRaider
      @ARockRaider 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      not just there, but also the stands and taxiways at airports.
      something big aircraft do have to consider for what airports they can operate at.

    • @marko7843
      @marko7843 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ARockRaider ooohhh, good point, then we wouldn't need super jumbos because of limited airport gates.

  • @mrjayjay124
    @mrjayjay124 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +163

    I always enjoy these videos, it's interesting to learn about the backstory and history of planes I know and don't know of. Thanks for putting in so much effort for these amazing videos!

  • @FreedomTalkMedia
    @FreedomTalkMedia 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    The bottleneck for most air travel is the airport. We typically spend a lot more time getting to, at, and getting from airports than we spend actually flying.

    • @proallnighter
      @proallnighter 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Yes. Tons of waiting on ground rather than actually flying.

    • @baph0met
      @baph0met 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great channel. 🏴💛

    • @supernus8684
      @supernus8684 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Thats a bottleneck for you not for the airline. It doesnt matter to them if you are waiting at the airport, some other guy is on a plane already.

    • @narukami597
      @narukami597 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@supernus8684 More flights could equal more money but it depends on whether there's enough demand.

    • @oceyho
      @oceyho 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      that is just the nature of traffic infrastructure and has nothing to do with flying itself. Entirely a different problem.

  • @nmspy
    @nmspy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    2:38 Mig-23, Mig-27, F-111, F-14, B1, Tornado, Su-17, Su-20, Su-22, Su-24, Tu-160. Not a huge amount but more than just a sample size in all fairness

    • @brentfryer2389
      @brentfryer2389 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      and the TU-160 is back in production.

    • @B-52H
      @B-52H 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well to be fair the Mig 23 and Mig 27 are the same frame rebuilt electronics wise
      And the SU 17 SU 20 and SU 22 are all variants of the same base design
      After that the number drops down to 7

  • @gutsngorrrr
    @gutsngorrrr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +299

    It's sad that Jones never got to see his concept fully tested, it was so close, but those in charge pulled the plug. Would love to see this taken all the way, especially with all the new technology to aid in stability.

    • @DoctorAids
      @DoctorAids 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      yeah but it would probably be impractical. It would require constant babysitting by multiple systems. If any of those systems went wrong the pilot would have to deal with a plane wobbling back and forth until they could land. Also the amount of time and money it would take to get a even somewhat practical model would probably far outweigh the benefits.

    • @letmethinkv
      @letmethinkv 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It was not his concept. He copied from German design.

    • @spindash64
      @spindash64 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@DoctorAids
      It wouldn't be wobbly constantly, only when the wing needs to sweep: below 400mph, full extension could often be used

    • @gremblorthesackgoblin7953
      @gremblorthesackgoblin7953 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      ​@@DoctorAidsYoure saying like we didn't let others freaks of the air (the osprey) into full use despite it barly funtioning effectivly on a good day.

    • @Cheesepuff8
      @Cheesepuff8 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unless u wanna go conspiratorial and say that they pretended to stop testing it to stop other countries copying them
      I mean these designs at 5:14 10:24 look and act like that rotating oval UFO from that footage that the Navy confirmed
      But that’s just an idea I’ve put only minutes of thought into, fun tho

  • @StevenS-b5k
    @StevenS-b5k 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +207

    Bro, Let Boeing fix their planes first before you start throwing new ideas for them to screw up.

    • @bernardopaula1763
      @bernardopaula1763 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @letstalk4368
      @letstalk4368 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Haha latest idea Boeing uses no wings to save money Ja I love you Boeing don’t kill me ;)

    • @yshaalan2011
      @yshaalan2011 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well let airbus do what they are good at though

    • @bantlemathatego3528
      @bantlemathatego3528 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂

    • @BuckFudweiser
      @BuckFudweiser 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fr 😂

  • @airforceman6561
    @airforceman6561 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    These are really great and informative videos, and it's great that you're highlighting concepts and aircraft not known by most people. Personally, I'd really like to know how you make these videos as I love your style and the models you use.

  • @stokesbradley
    @stokesbradley 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +230

    Sitting in an airport watching your high quality videos is actually a great experience, thank you! Such a great production.

    • @heroinmom153
      @heroinmom153 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shut up.

  • @davidpope3943
    @davidpope3943 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +679

    There were two designs with oblique wings that came out of Germany during World War Two. These were the Blohm und Voss P.202 and Messerschmitt P.1101/XVIII-108. Despite never being put into operation, It appears that once again German designers were even further ahead than we thought.

    • @mr.christopher79
      @mr.christopher79 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      exactly! a lot to do with all the fuss that happened between america and the soviets.

    • @iamsick5204
      @iamsick5204 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

      Its crazy they also had a prototype flying wing that had an excellent radar cross-section. They where sloving issues before anybody else even knew they existed

    • @nerd2544
      @nerd2544 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what is it with the WW2-era germans and their hatred for jews so violent and want for lebensraum so strong that they single-handedly leapfrog literal decades in science and technology innovation and design. weird as hell.

    • @davidpope3943
      @davidpope3943 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

      @@iamsick5204 I believe the Germans also had the best wind tunnels in the world in WW2. At one location was one that could be used to test full-scale models up to Mach 4 and a hypersonic wind tunnel for testing up to Mach 10 was discovered under construction by Allied troops. The Germans were so far ahead of the Allies that the Americans had these wind tunnels disassembled and moved to the US Navy Labs in Maryland along with German scientists to work on it. The first of these went into US service in 1948 ( I think) and was still in use for calibration purposes until sometime in the late 1990s!
      We were extremely fortunate that there was so much interdepartmental secrecy, backstabbing, favouritism and higher level blinkered stupidity in the German system. Had they put their heads together to produce advanced weaponry, they’d likely have had ~ for example ~ hundreds of operational jets in time to rip huge chunks out of the USAAF day-bombing campaign almost before it got started.

    • @Vlamyncksken
      @Vlamyncksken 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@davidpope3943a Mach 10 wind tunnel?
      wat

  • @seasong7655
    @seasong7655 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +100

    This needs to make a comeback. I'm tired of sitting in a plane for 12+ hours.

    • @siraff4461
      @siraff4461 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      How much do you pay for a 12 hour flight? If it was 10 hours instead would you pay 50x that? How about 20x if it was popular?

    • @Mark9150
      @Mark9150 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Look ape, it can pull more weight and has 50% more speed and fuel efficiency. If the damn thing fly's it uses less fuel, less working personal hours, therfore less food , and ultimatly also less risk by being airborne, we could go on.@@siraff4461

    • @Haplo-san
      @Haplo-san 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Do you still work with your legs in 2024? Hire someone that would sit in a plane 12 hours for you.

    • @Prof.Megamind.thinks.about.it.
      @Prof.Megamind.thinks.about.it. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Hallo !!
      The need for supersonic jets is highly debatable , due mainly to high costs and noise-generation .
      .
      HOWEVER , if examined seriously , this is actually a viable design . Oblique-wings are of course , unstable at high speeds . This means that the transition must be accomplished at lower speeds and altitudes , and then the forward-wing locked securely into the axial position .
      Obviously , after this the plane can accelerate to cruising-speed , while relying on it's low-drag lifting-body planform to provide the necessary lift for supersonic flight . 😎

    • @tsriftsal3581
      @tsriftsal3581 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Haplo-sanfeels like a disability to sell remotely. It's about presence. Sure, kids today have no problem with this but so much richness of experience is lost.
      100 phones calls or a 10 minute meet, hmmm.

  • @fridaycaliforniaa236
    @fridaycaliforniaa236 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Fun fact : the two engines for the AD-1 were two little French _Microturbo_ TRS-18 engines that were derived from versions initially designed mostly for cruise missiles, surveilance and target drones (Sea Eagle, RBS-15, MQM-107 Streaker, and many others). For « manned » use, they received better bearings, a better lubrication system, more reliable parts and some other mods that allowed them to become more than a « single use engine » like they were before, as a means of propulsion for missiles (sorry I'm French, I hope my english isn't dog juice ^^).

    • @strakhovandrri
      @strakhovandrri 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dog juice? Is this a synonym for "dogshit" in French?

    • @toddthezondalover645
      @toddthezondalover645 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@strakhovandrriOr piss. Or, the other...

  • @lieutenantmeatball5590
    @lieutenantmeatball5590 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +212

    Asymmetrical paper airplanes are pain to look at, but man they’re so fun to make

    • @heroinmom153
      @heroinmom153 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I've made hundreds, and it is indeed very fun!

  • @cloudedarctrooper
    @cloudedarctrooper 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    I love symmetrical/ordered asymmetry like this.
    From Samus to the Millennium Falcon, it's so cool seeing stuff pulling that off

    • @benoitbergeron8858
      @benoitbergeron8858 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I think that it's design principle called Form Follows Function. It instictively feels right.
      I remember earing Adam Savage, who worked on the Star Wars movies, refer to it.

    • @heroinmom153
      @heroinmom153 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shut up.

  • @dewkeating
    @dewkeating 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Engineer fantasy land. Aircraft mechanic here that understands chaos theory. Shit will ice up, something will fail, and you will become the worlds fastest lawn dart.

    • @jyothishkumar3098
      @jyothishkumar3098 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe, but maybe we can design an electronic control system to do the same thing.. We'll need to see how such a system will vary with velocity with rotation and for different air conditions. Then we can conclude if the system will be chaotic enough.
      Quadcopters too would be chaotic without a proper electronic control system.

    • @hyperx72
      @hyperx72 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@jyothishkumar3098 If it needs electronic controls to fly then it would be unacceptable for civilian use. (They have to be stable in case of a fly by wire failure)

    • @IncineroarBestPokemon
      @IncineroarBestPokemon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@hyperx72 An oblique wing aircraft could easily include an emergency system that reset the wing to perpendicular in case of an emergency. And when the wing is perpendicular, the characteristics are roughly the same to a conventional aircraft.

  • @Dopeychezdog
    @Dopeychezdog 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    solution: no wings

    • @angheltheexplorer8240
      @angheltheexplorer8240 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That will be a Rocket

    • @EREN_ACKERMAN0
      @EREN_ACKERMAN0 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Problem : no fly

    • @Dopeychezdog
      @Dopeychezdog 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@EREN_ACKERMAN0 pure thrust

    • @Dopeychezdog
      @Dopeychezdog 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@angheltheexplorer8240 exactly

    • @haabyalexis
      @haabyalexis 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      In thrust we trust, god bless America

  • @robertcringely7348
    @robertcringely7348 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +108

    There was too much interference drag in the first oblique wing models, leading Jones to come up with his best solution -- the oblique flying wing you mention only at the end of your video. I was Bob Jones' hangar mate in Palo Alto after he retired from NASA. Bob flew a two-control Ercoupe, which he had designed for Fred WeIck of NACA in the 1930s, while I flew a homebuilt. Over turkey legs at Harry's Hofbrau, I heard all about the oblique wing and its advantages, which have been generally underplayed. It's even better than you know

    • @lothar654
      @lothar654 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Sick

    • @heroinmom153
      @heroinmom153 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sure you were 😂

    • @lothar654
      @lothar654 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@heroinmom153 go back in your basement, or start achieving something yourself

    • @heroinmom153
      @heroinmom153 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lothar654 LMAO @ you 🤡😂🤣
      Simp, I'm a software engineer. You're just some broke dope on the internet, wishing you had an ounce of success lol

    • @heroinmom153
      @heroinmom153 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lothar654 But keep simping harder for internet liars lolol
      Simp boi

  • @insertphrasehere15
    @insertphrasehere15 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    There are other considerations... Maintenance, and the fact that underwing engines are more efficient than body mounted engines (they can be bigger, but also creates a high pressure zone under the wing). Storing fuel in the wings but pumping it to body mounted engines becomes much more complicated, especially given the swing mechanism, probably you have to give up on wing mounted fuel tanks, sacrificing cargo space in the body.
    Wing shape has a lot of follow on effects that need to be considered to ensure that the tradeoffs are worth it. By the time those are considered, I suspect that any benefits largely disappear, leaving you with higher maintenance and complexity (and therefore lower safety margins).

    • @mootorkassipoeg
      @mootorkassipoeg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yep, engine mounting is also what i thought of - where do you put the engines on an oblique wing aircraft? As you said, fuselage-mounted engines are less efficient, are harder maintain since they're higher up, require fuel to be pumped to them from the wings, and create more noise and vibration in the cabin.
      Additionally, wing-mounted engines are used as counterbalances for the lift forces on the wing. When an aircraft is flying, the entire aircraft's weight is resting on the wing roots as the wings provide lift. Logically, mounting the engines to the wings themselves instead of the fuselage then means that the wing root doesn't have to carry the weight of the engines anymore, since the weight of the engines rests directly on the wings themselves. This means that the wing root can be lighter, and more efficient.
      Mounting the engines to the fuselage will mean that all these efficiency gains are lost.

  • @Pellowwwmmnm
    @Pellowwwmmnm 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This channel is the only channel that makes me really consider joining nebula

  • @Aluminio_siete_tres_siete
    @Aluminio_siete_tres_siete 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +192

    Your channel helped me to decide that I wanted to be an engineer, now I'm a miserable, sleepless engineering student and its all your fault (but damn your videos inspire me each and every time to keep going, no matter how hard it is, an engineer is what I want to be ;)

    • @Splattervision-qh1sd
      @Splattervision-qh1sd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Stay with it, my brother-in-law is a long time aerospace engineer. You guys are a special breed. I never had the math skills :)

    • @Aluminio_siete_tres_siete
      @Aluminio_siete_tres_siete 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Splattervision-qh1sd sadly no aerospace in my country, gonna be mechanical.

    • @Splattervision-qh1sd
      @Splattervision-qh1sd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Aluminio_siete_tres_siete A lot of it is the same stuff. I hope you have a great career.

    • @peterborg3340
      @peterborg3340 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Aluminio_siete_tres_siete
      I would rethink - If You are miserable as a Student, it might not change later on the Job....

    • @Triple_J.1
      @Triple_J.1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Civil Engineerings is far more lucrative. Especially if you partner in a firm, instead of working as a firms underpaid overworked, always blamed employee.

  • @erasmus_locke
    @erasmus_locke 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

    I always thought this Wing configuration would make perfect sense on the outside of rocket boosters like the ones on the SLS or space shuttle in order to find them back to the ground and land them like a plane

    • @godlugner5327
      @godlugner5327 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      "you know... Now that you mentioned it...."
      -Everyday Astronaut interviewing Elon musk

    • @weregarurumon3202
      @weregarurumon3202 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Like this rocket? they have the asymmetrical wing
      th-cam.com/video/lihq94ugNuU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=_HFTUxU2ujLizTrg

    • @drspangle13
      @drspangle13 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That seems similar to what was designed for the Energia 2 upgrades that were planned in the soviet union if the Energia-Buran project kept going? Though I think they were looking at folding wing, rather than asymmetric

  • @sundragon7703
    @sundragon7703 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    The oblique wing concept is great if wings were rigid and laminar airflow was the norm. A major characteristic of forward sweeping control surfaces in practice is tip flutter increases as speed increases. Eventually, the wing or canard folds toward the fuselage. With respect to scissor-wings, uneven amounts of energy would be directed to the pivot point. On a related research path, the Soviets/Russian experimented with the Su-47 and the US had the X-29. With respect to the X-29, the wingtip issues could not be overcome.

    • @giovane_Diaz
      @giovane_Diaz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      the point with the laminar flow has some dots adressed by other research on wings like on the dreamliner, maybe someone with the guts and funding can do a theoretical / prototype of a oblique wing with an active turbulent flow limiter to see how it can help to increase performance and give focus on other challenges of the wing

    • @StephenKarl_Integral
      @StephenKarl_Integral 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Absolutely understand and agree. I'm not an engineer, but I modeled virtually and actual scale model, one day in 2001, I found something very weird : wings aren't solid straight surfaces, they bend/flex/twist. Furthermore, all those alterations occurs different from tip to root, the way it happens depend on the shape of the wing, speed, mass/mass distribution, attitude and control surfaces inputs of the vehicle, and the air density and state.
      Through my journey in trying to reflect all those in model design (flight simulation), I've foud out about fluttering, pressure wave, drag, wing profiles, wing structures, computer managed damping and control (A380 for eg.), flight speed ranges and their respective concerns, etc.
      The tilting wing only resolves a few concerns, still, there are a lot to address, way beyond just "flying okay", and will certainly bring a whole bunch of new huge challenges each time we increase mass, size, performances. The purpose will still and remain transporting something or people somewhere, while economically viable in the civilian world, and strategically relevant in the military one.

    • @Triple_J.1
      @Triple_J.1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The whole point of the rotating slew-wing, is for a simpler structure. It utilizes a straight wingspar and high aspect ratio for weight and simplicity. And slews it for transonic drag reduction.

  • @achimdemus-holzhaeuser1233
    @achimdemus-holzhaeuser1233 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a non-engineer I think the problem with the oblique wing is the fact it is really hard to include the wing in overarching features a fixed wing allows.
    For the military that would be weapon hardpoints and additional fuel cells under the wings, or extended fuelspace for commercial flight.
    If the features you gain are not worth the features you lose .. then it's not worth it.

  • @nicoleibundgut534
    @nicoleibundgut534 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    The graphics of the "barrier" in red and the sonic boom after the test aircraft went faster was so nice to watch and hear it gave me goosebump. Thank you unknown videographer that was a good job👍

  • @Adamas_83
    @Adamas_83 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    I look so forward to every one of these videos. Your production value and modeling is absolutely insane. Second-to-none.

  • @SRFriso94
    @SRFriso94 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    There are always subtle challenges about these types of new designs that are often hard to predict. Variable geometry wings are a great example, because the theory is great, but it's really difficult in practice. Ground effect vehicles are another such example, where the theory is sound, and it promises much increased efficiency, but then doing it in reality is much more difficult. I put these oblique wings in the same category, where 'what could have been' is almost certainly a lot better than 'what would have happened'.

  • @tizi087
    @tizi087 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I am currently studying aerospace engineering and i think i know why my professor never talked about this:
    1: When the wings pivots the resulting torque also changes direction --> that's what causes the need for control inputs, as now that torque is no longer in line with the axis of the fueselage.
    2: You still have a pivot mechanism trough which ALL of the lift needs to go and that thing needs to hold all the Gs a aircratf has to pull and is not allowed to fail/only with a chance of 10^-9.... yeah that mechanism would be hell to design. especially for the milltiary as you need to pull your Gs.
    3: The wings are elyptical... which is an absolute horror to manufacture as you not only change the profile but even the depth of your profile now. and todays wings are also everything but simple
    4: As said in the video it is not a really prooven design. and like many many other ideas like flying wing and canard it would need an immense certification process... who is gonna pay for that?
    5: what about the engines? If we put them at the aft we will soon get the problem because todays engines get higher and higher BPR (by pass ratios). Those huge engines probably wont fit at the aft. But if we put them under the wing we need more pivots again... and all the fuel lines need to bend too....
    6: ohhh and lets not forget that we might manage to make a good aerodynamic Design at subsonic and super sonic but what about the engine? For Super sonic we want low bypass and a Super sonic intake. For sub sonic high BPR is good for fuel efficency.... and another intake....
    in conclusion this certainly is intresting. but like many non conventional designs who promsie better L/Ds etc it will be icnredibly difficult to do from an construction perspective
    also: the sonic booms and stuff aint even tested yet. i seriously wonder how they show when the wing is pivoted. so i am rather sure i will be another concept we might use at one point in the future.

    • @rexxbailey2764
      @rexxbailey2764 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      YOUR AEROSPACE ENGINEERING EDUCATION JUST DESTROYED YOUR ACTUAL ABILITY TO CREATE ANY NEW PLANES. ' ANOTHER BRICK IN THE WALL '.😑😒

    • @tizi087
      @tizi087 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@rexxbailey2764 why? Because i can see the Problems? Because i already know the higher ups probably wont Cover the cost and risk.
      You shouldnt forget: engineers want to build the New and amazong stuff. But the guys in the money Departement need to remind us that we need to stay profitable

    • @RaptorMaitre
      @RaptorMaitre 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@rexxbailey2764 LOL are you kidding? He is absolutely right, just watch the video and you will find the problems addressed as well. The amount of torque it will experience at high angles, + maneuvering will require significant EFBW inputs. Add that to military use cases, where the payload mounts are on the wings, the CoM will shift radically when payloads are asymmetrically released. Its a problem even in swing wings but they still pivot 15-30 degrees usually, so the shift in CoM is not that great. Here it will be drastic. It will be extremely complicated to fly especially in military applications and that's where the major use of a supersonic plane. A fully oblique civilian aircraft might work, but it'll still have enough challenges.

  • @TheDeadMan161
    @TheDeadMan161 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

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    • @Jen-hen
      @Jen-hen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

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    • @Jen-hen
      @Jen-hen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

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      @Jen-hen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

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    • @ThatOneGuy5540
      @ThatOneGuy5540 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

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    • @TheDeadMan161
      @TheDeadMan161 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wtf

  • @vale.antoni
    @vale.antoni 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    The oblique wing might also double as a form of dazzle camouflage, because the wings are at an angle, which would suggest a different heading/ speed, than what they are in actual fact.

    • @lalubko
      @lalubko 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      while also needing a smaller hangar... meaning you can be more discreet

    • @twandepan
      @twandepan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@lalubkoalso ideal for aircraft carriers, where as many jets are crammed into a small area as possible.

    • @XxZeldaxXXxLinkxX
      @XxZeldaxXXxLinkxX 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      in what world are we still using visuals to identify aircraft and its speed and heading?

    • @andrewthomson
      @andrewthomson 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@XxZeldaxXXxLinkxX lmao this guys not living in 1923 like the rest of us. Come on in, xister, the waters warm.

    • @lennykravitz4107
      @lennykravitz4107 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Bro really never heard of RADAR

  • @Benblender
    @Benblender 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Such high quality in this video, love the renders you've made.

  • @OhAwe
    @OhAwe 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    No. Current manufacturers struggle with complexities such as doors.

  • @floycewhite6991
    @floycewhite6991 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    In an oblique setup, the forward-swept wing has an advantage of less induced drag, but the rearward-swept wing does not. That's a built-in imbalance. Another imbalance is that the forward-swept wing has an exponentially larger twisting force at the wingtip the faster it goes. The forward-swept wing must be reinforced more than the rearward-swept wing, so there will be a weight imbalance along with a drag imbalance. The ideal oblique wing is elliptical. Manufacturing a curved shape is more expensive and time-consuming than a straight edge. Considering that the top and bottom of a wing is curved as well, an elliptical wing has an economic disadvantage. Also, an aircraft designed for supersonic flight must be more narrow than one designed to never enter the transonic regime. There just isn't enough time saving in the air (versus the frequent delays on the ground) to make a supersonic narrow-body jet worth the extra cost versus a subsonic narrow-body.
    Oh yes, almost forgot. When an aircraft isn't inherently stable, when it requires computer control, as with the 60-degree oblique sweep, how does the pilot remain in control when the wing computer suddenly dies at top speed?

    • @nerd1000ify
      @nerd1000ify 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The computer reliability issue is readily addressed using multiple redundancy, the traditional approach is 3 computers that 'vote' on their output.

    • @floycewhite6991
      @floycewhite6991 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nerd1000ify I've heard that. Still there are failures that kill all the electronics.

    • @nerd1000ify
      @nerd1000ify 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @floycewhite6991 it would be normal to have multiple redundant electrical supplies as well, on an airliner there are 4: main engine generators, APU, batteries and a ram air turbine.
      A power surge of some sort could fry electronics, but they are typically protected by circuit breakers (which account for a lot of the switches in a typical cockpit). Multi engine aircraft can run independent circuits from each generator, so you can run redundant critical systems on totally different circuits so a power surge cannot affect both.
      It's worth noting that many inherently stable aircraft would also be unflyable in the event of a total power failure. The control surfaces are generally actuated by hydraulics which rely on pumps to operate. Even in cases where there is a physical cable or pushrod connection between the controls and the control surfaces, on larger aircraft the control forces would be too large for the pilot to manage without power assistance. It's common to have multiple redundant hydraulic systems as well, e.g. each engine drives an independent pump and hydraulic circuit that is responsible for half of the actuators on each control surface.

    • @floycewhite6991
      @floycewhite6991 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nerd1000ify Yes I worked in the industry when I was young. Thanks for the reminders though. The bigger the plane, the more complex, and the more overbuilt it must be for safety's sake.

  • @boigercat
    @boigercat 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I'm not sure what the technical term is for this but the way you display information in your video is really pleasing to me

  • @American_Jeeper
    @American_Jeeper 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You are rapidly becoming my favorite channel. Not only was this one hell of an informative video, you took your middle finger and rammed it straight up TH-cam’s ass with Nebula…I love it!

    • @jesuslovesyou83558
      @jesuslovesyou83558 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pls repent from your sins and have faith and believe in Jesus because Jesus is the way the truth and the life Jesus died for you and rose from the dead for you

    • @American_Jeeper
      @American_Jeeper หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ WTF does your comment have to do with this video?

    • @jesuslovesyou83558
      @jesuslovesyou83558 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@American_Jeeper pls don't cuss, and also i preach the Gospel because people need Jesus Christ and we can't wait anymore we must preach

  • @wmvdw1978
    @wmvdw1978 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Fascinating! I would like to note that nature is not always symmetrical, for instance flatfish are highly asymmetrical. Also, geese typically fly in an asymmetrical v-shape formation.

    • @R1GGLER
      @R1GGLER 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      He was pointing out that anything that flies is symmetrical.

    • @MICKEYISLOWD
      @MICKEYISLOWD 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's amazing but a formation of geese are not a single flying object unless they do this to affect the airflow over the entire formation.

    • @agilemind6241
      @agilemind6241 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@R1GGLER That's still a misleading point to make because everything that walks is also symmetrical, as it everything that burrows. There are only a handful of fish that aren't symmetrical. Symmetry is far far simpler from an evolutionary development point of view than asymmetry.

  • @swellframe
    @swellframe 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +104

    I think this is the classic example of theoretically possible but almost impossible in practice. Like you said in the video, the Concord is the best case of why modern aviation doesnt work well with "unique" designs. We've flown the same type of plane for almost 70 years. The amount of R&D time and money they would need to invest to develop would certainly bankrupt all major airplanes manufactures(Boeing, Airbus)

    • @aldreymenezes7652
      @aldreymenezes7652 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Boeing is bankrupting just by building airplanes

    • @mariussmuts3153
      @mariussmuts3153 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Boeing is doing just fine bankrupting themselves with the MAX series aircraft, thank you very much.

    • @swellframe
      @swellframe 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@mariussmuts3153 Boeing is going to be fine. Airbus also had issues with their planes, most famous one where the landing gear sometimes would turn side ways when deployed for landing. Would this hurt them financially? Absolutely. And probably delay the deploy of their new 777X MAX even further. But they are not going anywhere. This duopoly doesnt seem to be disrupted anytime soon.

    • @Rocker-1234
      @Rocker-1234 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@mariussmuts3153 the us gov is doing even better bankrupting boeing with the airforce ones lol

    • @rockyblacksmith
      @rockyblacksmith 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Few major advancements in aviation have been made by airplane manufacturers in private ventures.
      Most groundbreaking research was either done directly by the government (NASA and others), or through military projects with manufacturers.
      Atm, there simply isn't a competition that would drive manufacturers to innovate in such ways.
      Because supersonic travel would limited to ocean-crossing routes anyway, thus there's hardly a profit margin in there.
      Whether anyone might innovate in that direction if supersonic flight were permitted everywhere is anyones guess.
      But so long as overland flights have to be subsonic, a lack of innovation in this sector is a certainty.

  • @Glen_lastname
    @Glen_lastname 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Aircraft weren't always semicircle before this funky number, granted not as interesting as this one, but one wing was sometimes designed longer than the other to prevent torque reaction from the propeller. And the Germans made some unhinged asymmetrical aircraft for visibility as I understand it. Good video as always and well woth the wait!!

    • @chamberlane2899
      @chamberlane2899 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      A lot of propeller driven aircraft also have their tails turned slightly to one side for the same reason.

  • @raven9ine
    @raven9ine หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the style of your video and editing! Absolutely great job on the design of all the graphs! Very interesting video.

  • @Phrancis5
    @Phrancis5 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    I remember that concept from the "Usborne book of the future" I had as a kid in the late 70's/80's. It's too bad that aesthetics and symmetry is so hardwired into humans.

  • @Officer_duh
    @Officer_duh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    The one issue I can see with this concept, is (particularly in commercial use) people wouldn’t feel as secure in an aircraft with an unusual and even confusing oblique wing as in an aircraft with a familiar symmetrical one.

    • @code988yay
      @code988yay 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      ah but you see, people used to be afraid of flying in the first place, before they realized how much faster it was than other forma of travel

    • @KrazyNorm
      @KrazyNorm 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      People will adapt

    • @OlDoinyo
      @OlDoinyo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It would be in the fully transverse position when parked on the ground. It would not look so unusual then.

    • @BlueA
      @BlueA 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The general public will of course be scared, but if a plane with an oblique wing appears, and as said in the video and by the investigators it is really faster and more efficient. Then the people that dare will use it, because its faster than a normal plane a its probably cheaper since is more efficient. And with time more and more people end up using it, that's how airplines ended up being a normal thing. You think that people from a century ago trusted planes?

    • @hyperx72
      @hyperx72 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Though of course it would have to be better and safer which it definitely is not

  • @Max-kw2hp
    @Max-kw2hp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    Great video, it would be nice if you get into more detail what makes oblique wing so efficient.

    • @jakethewhale
      @jakethewhale 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      I'm no engineer, but I would imagine it is because of its smaller cross-sectional area in the direction of flight. Imagine standing in front of the plane; as the oblique wing rotates, you can see less of the plane. This means lower air resistance at supersonic speeds.

    • @reddskyy5760
      @reddskyy5760 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Real engineering has another great video on the AD-1 that perhaps you would be interested in

    • @TheAmazingchickens
      @TheAmazingchickens 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Starting at transonic (M0.8) and then up into supersonic speeds, as the airflow over the aircraft becomes supersonic, you are affected by a new type of drag, wave drag.
      To manage this wave drag you have to prevent large spikes in the frontal cross section of the aircraft; the cross section of the aircraft must change slowly, this is the so called 'area rule'.
      Traditional subsonic aircraft with their long, thin, straight wings have a large spike in the cross sectional area at the wings, this causes very large wave drag and effectively prevents them from going supersonic.
      in order to reduce the wave drag of the wings, you have to reduce the abrupt increase in cross sectional area. you can do this in two ways: make the wings shorter/fatter effectively spreading the area of the wing forwards and back (F-104 is a good example), and/or sweep the wings so that they gradually add and remove area (like the F-100); delta wings or trapezoidal wings are effectively a mix of both.
      The oblique wing is able to sweep it's self by pivoting, however it has a few potential advantages over traditional swing wing aircraft that can also change their sweep angle.
      Firstly as explained in the video the mechanism for sweep has the potential to be lighter since it recieves simpler loads.
      secondly traditional swing wings send both halves of the wing backwards, this shifts the center of lift backwards which adds adittional trim drag as the elevators have to pitch down and remove lift to maintain level flight, the oblique wing does not shift the COL backwards when it sweeps so no additional trim drag.
      Thirdly, as traditional variable geometry wings send both half of the wing backwards, they put the cross sectional area of both of the wings backwards resulting in higher wave drag; the oblique wing sends one half forwards and one half back resulting in better area ruling over all and therefore potentially lower wave drag.

    • @floycewhite6991
      @floycewhite6991 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@TheAmazingchickens Very good explanation. I'd add that rearward-swept wings can be positioned to ride the cone of the shockwave from a forward point such as the canopy, while a forward-swept wing cannot. Everything about a modern aircraft is built around its intended crusing speed, takeoff and landing speeds and distances, etc. Economically it makes little sense to design a jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none aircraft.

    • @nerd1000ify
      @nerd1000ify 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oblique wing works the same way as a swept wing, namely by making the cross sectional area of the plane change more gradually. This is important for reducing wave drag at transonic and supersonic speed.
      Unfortunately swept wings also tend to produce less lift at low speeds compared to straight wings. So when designing a transonic or supersonic plane the aircraft engineer has to choose a compromise between a reasonable takeoff/landing speed and mitigation of wave drag. Swing wings address this problem by allowing sweep to be varied in the air. But they add a lot of weight and complexity. The oblique wing hopes to give the same benefit without such severe penalties.

  • @cortezforever
    @cortezforever 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Boom Supersonic need to use this oblique wing, they would be in the air already, the time is now.

  • @bluemountain4181
    @bluemountain4181 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Won't the forward part of the oblique wing run into the same bending stress problems as forward swept wings?
    Not insurmountable but still an issue

    • @Triple_J.1
      @Triple_J.1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Its not bending stress, it's torsional stress.
      NASA solved all these issues with carbon fiber composite wing skins with calculated layup angles to cause the wingtip to twist leading edge down, instead of up.

  • @OutbackCatgirl
    @OutbackCatgirl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    can't help but wonder if a counterg-rotating oblique wing biplane (each wing being smaller) could potentially counteract the tendency to roll at high angles. guessing the extra drag, airflow characteristics and shock cones would render the advantages null and void.

    • @C.I...
      @C.I... 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are a genius.
      I should try to make a model of this.

    • @tommyhansen7600
      @tommyhansen7600 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You'd end up with a sylinder with a coned front

    • @martin-vv9lf
      @martin-vv9lf 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I thought so too, but you wouldn't be able to use wing struts since the wings would not be parallel all the time. another issue i didn't see mentioned is that you couldn't put jet engines on the wings without rotating them in line with the fuselage.

    • @OutbackCatgirl
      @OutbackCatgirl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@martin-vv9lf The original (monowing) doesn't use wing struts either. I am not an aerodynamics person so I'm guessing there's a good reason why biplanes strut their wings together?
      As fot engine placement, the original monowing design for this places them directly attached to the fuselage so I am not sure that's an issue.
      to clarify: one wing would be on top of the fuselage, the other on the bottom, each with a big old rotating joint, set up for the flight computer to make sure they match rotation angle as they rotate.

    • @charliekempf
      @charliekempf 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah you encounter the same losses which killed biplanes in the fist place. Another issue is that, on one of the sides, the top wing would create downwash which would interfere with the bottom wing. But only on one side. So it would be unstable

  • @jaymethodus3421
    @jaymethodus3421 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I just see the forward-swept half of the wing experiencing catastrophic resonant vibrations induced from the drag.
    Most modern aircraft can still safely land even with huge segments, even entire wings, missing. The structural integrity of an oblique wing would likely instantly drop to zero if it was damaged.
    The larger the oblique wing, the more these issues and their consequences are magnified.
    It’s an interesting idea that, the research itself is worth it- new data about aerodynamics was gained. But to actually apply the idea is a different story entirely.

    • @IncineroarBestPokemon
      @IncineroarBestPokemon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Modern aircraft definitely can't land with a wing missing. MAYBE a military craft could, but an airliner? No chance.

  • @jeremymetcalf2502
    @jeremymetcalf2502 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A 3 hour trip to Europe from NY would truly be revolutionary if we could do it on a large scale.

  • @liamcollinson5695
    @liamcollinson5695 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I am struggling to see how its any better than a variable sweep wing when it has to pivot as well probably on one point instead of two

    • @Wolf-Spirit_Alpha-Sigma
      @Wolf-Spirit_Alpha-Sigma 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It's just common sense that this video was bs in that regard. There was nothing wrong with swept wings, even when the Soviets designed and built it. I also fail to see a connection between Concorde and swept wings, despite of what he said here. Concorde failed because it basically operated at a loss. Nothing to do with booms or having to use afterburners at take off. It feels like the script of this vid was written by an AI, it's not very factual nor consistent.

    • @askeladd60
      @askeladd60 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Wolf-Spirit_Alpha-Sigma having to use afterburners and restrictions to flight over sonic booms = concorde operating at a loss genius

  • @Ronprower
    @Ronprower 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Always a great day when Mustard drops a new video!

  • @RodneyHarris-o4y
    @RodneyHarris-o4y 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I wonder how a "biplane" version of this oblique wing concept would perform, with each wing (one at the middle- top of the fuselage, one at the middle-bottom) pivoting in the opposite direction?

    • @fidan2fast
      @fidan2fast 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      so, something like an x-wing?

    • @rongarza9488
      @rongarza9488 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @user-bj1mi1fy5f Brilliant! I had just posted then and then saw your suggestion. Thumbs up #15 is mine.

    • @Yinyankstank
      @Yinyankstank 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The symmetry would negate all the advantages it’s like a worse version of what we already have. It’s like y’all didn’t even watch the video?

    • @hyperx72
      @hyperx72 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Yinyankstank Asymmetric wings are already a worse version of what we have lol

  • @Flourish38
    @Flourish38 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You know, if I’m an airport… I ***really*** want that wing to fold in-line. Seems like a no-brainer just from a space occupied perspective alone, even discounting potential efficiency gains or higher speeds.

  • @Neytjie
    @Neytjie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Love the motion graphics of this! So well done!😊

  • @michaelperry4308
    @michaelperry4308 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The Blohm und Voss Bv P202 was destined for production in 1946, had this system of pivoting wing, but was stopped by the end of the war.

  • @anthonypaterra6390
    @anthonypaterra6390 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Interesting idea. Only problem I see is potential relative wind force for the forward facing side of the wing. I think the asymmetrical force could be enough to over stress the center pivot mechanism resulting in failure. Especially at high speeds with extreme forces.

  • @mybigbackyard741
    @mybigbackyard741 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It looks like superman taking off with his right hand pushing forward :D

  • @peterwan816
    @peterwan816 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Have been long waiting your high quality videos!! Thanks for making these beautiful yet informative videos! A real deep thanks!!🙏🏻

    • @Idoplaygames184
      @Idoplaygames184 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @Doggieman1111
    @Doggieman1111 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    A giant wing that has to rotate while in midair? What could go wrong?!!?!? Hey those Ospreys certainly don't fall out of the ai----OH SHI

    • @tidepoolclipper8657
      @tidepoolclipper8657 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The Osprey has been important and aside from that recent accident, the Osprey these days has a better safety record than at the start.
      That being said, it's understandable why the oblique wing has remained with experimental and concept designs.

    • @theussmirage
      @theussmirage 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Helicopters have successfully operated with wings attached to a central bolt for decades. That being said, that bolt being a single point of failure on a passenger aircraft is unthinkable, and would never get approved by the FAA (unless you're Boeing with MCAS)

    • @westharrison9936
      @westharrison9936 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Jesus Nut

  • @powerofanime1
    @powerofanime1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +118

    I genuinely didn't know that an Oblique Wing would generate less of a sonic boom.

    • @oksemon
      @oksemon 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      😮Genuinely? But this is basic knowledge! Everyone knows that oblique wings generate practically no sonic boom whatsoever. I believe this was taught in pre-school.

    • @fadillah6014
      @fadillah6014 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@oksemon what kind pre-school was that? We didn't learn physic in pre-school

    • @wolfen888
      @wolfen888 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      How tf didnt u know that? Literally the first words out of my mouth were “an oblique wing generates less of a sonic boom”.

    • @cetomedo
      @cetomedo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Dude, its more famous than "Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell". In fact, that saying only became a thing as a result of plagiarising the far more commonly known adagé, "An oblique wing is the powerhouse of supersonic flight"

    • @powerofanime1
      @powerofanime1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@oksemon you think aerospace engineering is taught in preschool?

  • @WhyBecause.
    @WhyBecause. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why are your videos sooo well made with such attractive color palette?
    Its outstanding!

  • @CynicAtLarge
    @CynicAtLarge 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    This idea has been floating around for 50+ years. I remember building a model kit with this design in the early 70s.

  • @CarlosRodriguez-dd4sb
    @CarlosRodriguez-dd4sb 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Everything old is new again. I remember making an Estes rocket model of something like this 40 years ago! These old engineers made all these amazing breakthroughs with slide rules.

  • @MHTutorials3D
    @MHTutorials3D 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The editing and montage of this video is mindboggling

  • @martinh4982
    @martinh4982 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    My great grandpappy came to America as part of Operation Paperclip, specifically for his work on oblique wings. To his dying day he said it was a foolish technology.

    • @Trashcansam123
      @Trashcansam123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s a bold claim. What was his name!

    • @obnoxiouspedant
      @obnoxiouspedant 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Trashcansam123Albert Einstein

  • @shubhanshkesary5504
    @shubhanshkesary5504 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    11:54 goosebumps

  • @frankly2181
    @frankly2181 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Remembered when I used to slip plastic rules onto a pen and create an imaginary plane.. and sometimes the "wing" would be tilt to a weird position..
    Never thought my absurd idea of a plane was made real by NASA Engineers and even to prototype phase...
    Great work for Mustard as well for the stunning visualization 💛

  • @oryjen1
    @oryjen1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh, that old german concept again?
    Revolutionary!

  • @mattfgln
    @mattfgln 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What happens when the pivot mechanism breaks and wing cannot be returned in straight position ? Could it land with 60º oblique sweep?

    • @awdrifter3394
      @awdrifter3394 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It'll probably be similar to if the variable wings couldn't fold out.

    • @InterstellarTaco
      @InterstellarTaco 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep its happened before with the F14

    • @mattfgln
      @mattfgln 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I know that but in this case the wing is not symmetric and there is yaw-roll coupling. Do the ailerons and rudder have enough authority at low speed to counter the coupling ?

  • @lewissmith6086
    @lewissmith6086 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Looks how superman flys

    • @loganashwin
      @loganashwin 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Wow! That's some observation!

  • @spoots1234
    @spoots1234 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Id worry about fatigue and stress retention. Symmetry also means things wear and warp evenly. Asymmetrical wings might twist and bend the fuselage in strange ways that might hurt longevity.

    • @goob6095
      @goob6095 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hmmm good point
      But I guess the whole wing can be maintenanced when either side of the wing wears down
      It’s efficiency compared to traditional wings makes it worth the cost

    • @dkdanis1340
      @dkdanis1340 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It wouldn't. The connection to the fuselage is circular and it's not always at the fixed position. The lift forces are the same on both ends.

    • @spoots1234
      @spoots1234 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dkdanis1340 there ought to be a moment on that mechanism that would put torsion on the fuselage. Over time it may retain stress but instead of a sag, it would be a twist, which would be harder to compensate for

    • @spindash64
      @spindash64 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You could design the sweep to be sweepable either direction, to ensure both wings get similar lifetime stresses

    • @lunaqueer
      @lunaqueer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sounds easier to repair than the planes with the wings welded to the plane tbh. I guess one could look at helicopter data?

  • @spotlight9864
    @spotlight9864 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello, Mustard! Your videos are fantastic! How do you create landscape for aerial shots? Thank you in advance

  • @Character_Limit
    @Character_Limit 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    That pure oblique wing looks so cool. Imagine seeing a wonky wing with jet engines flying over you.

  • @isaganipalanca8803
    @isaganipalanca8803 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I remember seeing these "scissors-wing" planes on the cover of a Popular mechanics or Popular Science magazine in my youth in the early Seventies ... great to see them again! They were supposed to revolutionize air travel then but sort of disappeared from view - like hypercritical fuselages in the late Seventies/early Eighties...

    • @Splattervision-qh1sd
      @Splattervision-qh1sd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Brought back memories, I used to look through those too as a youth in the 70’s, good times.

  • @Ja50nkAt
    @Ja50nkAt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    That's what I was thinking, with the aileron offset it would make the plane pitch and yaw awkwardly, plus that pivot point in the middle would have to be insanely strong on a commercial aircraft carrying 200-300+ people.

  • @disco_bard
    @disco_bard 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks

  • @mtnvalley9298
    @mtnvalley9298 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I had one of these in the 70's and launched it with a "C" Estes rocket engine from a rod, lit by a nine volt battery. Yes, the scissor wing popped properly and it glided safely back to the Mother Earth.

    • @mrgcav
      @mrgcav 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I had one too. See comment above.

  • @atjwbtt
    @atjwbtt หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    MUUSTAAAAAAARD

  • @Nefylym
    @Nefylym 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    those digital mock ups look SO realistic .... my god ... the shine on the metal and the reflections ... we really have come a long way

  • @roteschwert
    @roteschwert 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Always excited for a new Mustard video. My favorite channel on TH-cam

  • @feynthefallen
    @feynthefallen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Yeah, the good old oblique wing concept. Every blue moon somebody trots it out again and once more serious engineers have to fight an uphill battle explaining to enthusiastic laymen why it looks good on paper, is technically feasible but is neither economically viable nor commercially sustainable. In a nutshell it boils down to "too many moving parts, too much weight, too much maintenance, too much complexity for civilian use".

    • @parisgansmuelly1052
      @parisgansmuelly1052 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Aerospace Engi’s are so pathetic. “But it’s difficult!!!” Yes, you’re paid to solve those problems.
      No wonder there’s been no progress in commercial aviation in the past 60 years besides increasing fan diameter.

  • @vengance27
    @vengance27 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you for this video. Video quality is exceptional, I dare say, Netflix-esque. Thanks for the cinematography and the narrative, how you tell the story. I've always heard about Nebula but having seen this video (first time on this channel), I now think that that 2.50 is a worthy spend. Thanks Mustard, you have earned a subscription. Amazing bro!

  • @valvulized
    @valvulized 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video about the Oblique Wing aircrafts. It made me discover this oblique wing technology which I've never heard before and that would be so cool if commercially developed. Thanks and keep up with the amazing work done for the channel!