I have never understood how this movie was considered heretical or blasphemous. It seems to me the most pro-Jesus piece of media since the New Testament.
I believe the criticism came more from the Orthodox Christian side, who shunned it for implying that Jesus could be tempted since they could not accept that the spirit of God himself could possibly be tempted as it goes against Christian traditions.
Technically it's a heretical movie because it pictures a different interpretation of the christian faith that isn't approved by the christian clerical power. But it's not a reason to guilt it.
Jesus during the last supper: “As of today Oscorp industries has surpassed quest aerospace as the principle supplier to the United States military in short ladies and gentlemen of the board costs are down revenues are up and our stock has never been higher”
In this movie they say Judas was commanded by Jesus to betray, in the passion Judas betrayed Jesus on his own free will (which Jesus predicted that Judas would do just that) and his betrayal was fueled by his greed for money.
That's official version, but I think this version makes more sense. Without Judas betrayal there wouldn't be no ultimate sacrifice, it make more sense, if this was his task.
Judas betrayed Jesus because Judas was a zealot who thought the messiah would be a warrior who would defeat the romans so became disillusioned with Jesus approach. Or there is the gnostic view that Judas was the only true disciple who knew Jesus sacrifice was necessary for salvation and was willing to take on the burden of his name being scorned. Or the traditional view that he was just a scumbag.
Of course Jesus is real. He was a great preacher and it's a good thing to follow his teachings even today. I believe he was human.. But even then this man died a horrid death for. Preaching love and peace. He gets my vote anyhow.
exactly, His teachings are still fresh and useful, a lot more than just the Act of Faith (believing in His Resurrection) that totally overshadows the power and dignity of His teachings.
Arguably yes, it was savaged by people who hadn't even seen or understood it. Alot of Jesus movies are terrible, for whatever reason they always get it so wrong, not sure if it's the casting, the production design, the pacing, the music, the direction but in this everything just works.
You would want to look into the women of the Berber peoples of North Africa. That's about the closest I could think of, but they're on the other side of the Roman Empire at the time.
the only interpretation of the bible that really makes sense imo. bc if he were mr perfect just going around doing magic and he couldnt mess up itd be boring. whereas if the hero of the story actually has difficulties its interesting. to be a story its gotta be a struggle
@@rao8559 There are many versions of this but the one with which I am the most familiar is the Nass el Ghiwane version. My grandfather had it on a vinyl which I eventually inherited.
@@rao8559 I am actually Melchite Greek Catholic, but by choice. My background is Moroccan Jewish and Irish. I was baptized as an adult. The part of my name that raises your question was gifted to me by my wife's family.
@@Warm_and_loveable Paul wrote his version in the 50s The Mark version was written in the 70s The Matthew version was written in the 80s The John and Luke versions were probably written after the year 100 That is the consensus of serious Bible scholars Paul was definitely not present at the events and apparently is based on his visions In fact it is most likely that Paul fabricated everything including his alleged visits to James and Peter and John Not a single word in the New testament is actually based on eyewitness accounts For all we know the whole scene in the movie is based on Paul's overactive imagination
@@dunstantom It's the cup used to collect the blood of Jesus when he was stabbed by a spear on the cross that's what the Arthurian Grail Knights were after.
what great words.....i am the way the truth and the life.....there are people..today...still are stupid,,,,,,,they think that catholic mass..is savage,,,,,,that eating the body and blood of christ which the symbol of christ,, is savage.////eating the bread and drinking the wine,,,is a commitment to understanding christ if he held the first mass and said eat and drink them why is so hard to believe..
This isn't a movie about Jesus like a biography, It's just blasfemy. Ignore it and don't fight with people on the comments as they are probably talking about the movie rather than the bible.
Scorsese is a Catholic. He's probably a much stronger believer in the faith than you are considering how much he's attacked his own philosophies throughout his films. Rather than accusing those appreciating the artistry and the attempt to find the humanity in his savior, perhaps you should consider that Jesus was, in fact, a man.
Guys the director in this movie no im not bully in this movie im just saying the truth this movie is wrong style the true last supper is jesus and his 12 boys dicsiple there is no girls so means is wrong
This movie is also based on a 20th century novel, which was an intentional deviation from the biblical texts. I'm getting tired of seeing countless uninformed comments about this movie from people who haven't bothered to do their homework.
@@gyniest In fairness (and I don’t mean to sound patronising) the commenter is clearly just a kid, so I think we should give them a pass on this one. At least now they know to do some research next time.
This movie is grossly inaccurate... dark... and blastphemeous.... The makers of this movie obviously does not know God personally or know who God really is.....
Andrew breaks off, like, 20% of the bread before it even goes to the second person.
He was really hungry tho
the bread looks tasty
food was hard to get back then
it was take home for the wife & kids
Yeah well Jesus dropped a large crumb of his, so I guess he can be forgiven.
I have never understood how this movie was considered heretical or blasphemous. It seems to me the most pro-Jesus piece of media since the New Testament.
It was a masterpiece in itself. However, i was expecting more from an actor like William dafoe.
and that's exactly what makes it blasphemous to these so-called "christians"
I believe the criticism came more from the Orthodox Christian side, who shunned it for implying that Jesus could be tempted since they could not accept that the spirit of God himself could possibly be tempted as it goes against Christian traditions.
Technically it's a heretical movie because it pictures a different interpretation of the christian faith that isn't approved by the christian clerical power. But it's not a reason to guilt it.
It was heretical because the book was heretical. Its author, Kazatzakis was excommunicated by the Greek orthodox church.
Who else thinks Scorsese did a fantastic job directing this film?
It's a work of art.
He is one of my favourite movie directors of all time
Such a good film, one of my favourites from the 1980s.
Last guy gets all the backwash
_"You know, i'm something of a Messiah Myself...."_
Do you know how much he sacrificed?
OH!! I get it!!!
a hidden gem from the man of hidden talents...i bless you Marty❤
Jesus during the last supper: “As of today Oscorp industries has surpassed quest aerospace as the principle supplier to the United States military in short ladies and gentlemen of the board costs are down revenues are up and our stock has never been higher”
And it gets much different level to quote: "Do you know how much I sacrifice?"
LMFAO
In this movie they say Judas was commanded by Jesus to betray, in the passion Judas betrayed Jesus on his own free will (which Jesus predicted that Judas would do just that) and his betrayal was fueled by his greed for money.
That's official version, but I think this version makes more sense. Without Judas betrayal there wouldn't be no ultimate sacrifice, it make more sense, if this was his task.
But this is a much, much better film than POTC.
Judas betrayed Jesus because Judas was a zealot who thought the messiah would be a warrior who would defeat the romans so became disillusioned with Jesus approach. Or there is the gnostic view that Judas was the only true disciple who knew Jesus sacrifice was necessary for salvation and was willing to take on the burden of his name being scorned. Or the traditional view that he was just a scumbag.
And the passion is correct according to the bible...otherwise Judas would not kill himself
They shared the blood of Christ in the “Holy Bowl”
the search for the holy bowl, then.
@@KoeSeer ni
Its the holy bowl batman.
Thus...the Superbowl was born!
God is great
Of course Jesus is real. He was a great preacher and it's a good thing to follow his teachings even today.
I believe he was human.. But even then this man died a horrid death for. Preaching love and peace. He gets my vote anyhow.
exactly, His teachings are still fresh and useful, a lot more than just the Act of Faith (believing in His Resurrection) that totally overshadows the power and dignity of His teachings.
Jesus....could you pass the JAM!
Could you pass the mayo?
@@pedroamaralcouto could u pass the CHOP STICKS?
That bread looks good actually
1:34. That’s the cup of a carpenter!
0:37 looks like sunfeast buscuit
The last supper looks like it was one hell of a supper. Imagine being able to be there.
Y'all think the bread is bussin?
WELL YOU'RE RIGHT
But amazing film
3:05
this movie is just confusing.
It's not an accurate rendition, but still very good. Willem Dafoe is a great actor and was somewhat convincing.
What if the truth is just Love? and love never ends with death
THE greatest Jesus Movie ever !
No it’s not!
Arguably yes, it was savaged by people who hadn't even seen or understood it. Alot of Jesus movies are terrible, for whatever reason they always get it so wrong, not sure if it's the casting, the production design, the pacing, the music, the direction but in this everything just works.
Last Words: "Peter, don't say to Mary. 😀
reminds me of all the nativity plays
Lol, yes, my thoughts exactly...
Thank you so much I Love You Thank You So Much For Letting Us See This Move Clip
Man, I hope that the Lord open your eyes to see that this movie is swines pig f s! For blaspheming our lord and savior!
I cant believe i forgot that was W Dafoe ..🤣
In the bible, jesus was celebrated the last passover meal with his male disciples only, there's no woman on that moment
Can anyone tell what is this beautiful music playing in the background?
It's just vocalizations by Baaba Maal
Its music praising prophet muhammed "ya habiballah" oh beloved of God "ya nabi allah" oh messenger of god
Call to prayer - baaba maal
Hanson "mmmbop"
@@davidmccaffrey3477 lmfao
Theres one thing im wanna know: tatoos were common in those days and used to be wore by women?
You would want to look into the women of the Berber peoples of North Africa. That's about the closest I could think of, but they're on the other side of the Roman Empire at the time.
the only interpretation of the bible that really makes sense imo. bc if he were mr perfect just going around doing magic and he couldnt mess up itd be boring. whereas if the hero of the story actually has difficulties its interesting. to be a story its gotta be a struggle
Exactly.
No, that’s why we have the Old Testament prophets who were not perfect and entirely human. Jesus is God and perfect, he don’t need obstacles.
It isn’t. It’s based off a fictional story
Green Goblin
This fruit cake is my company Oscorp
Willem Defoe wow
Other movies are more accurate...i believe Jesus said he would not drink from the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God came.
it's not supposed to be strictly based on the gospels but i see your point
Amen
When he gets CrossFid he was naked
I can't be the only one who notices "Allah ya moulana" in the background at the beginning of the clip.
It is sung by a famous Senegalese Muslim singer. It is incredibly beautiful and primal , sounds like it is from a prehistoric age.
@@rao8559 There are many versions of this but the one with which I am the most familiar is the Nass el Ghiwane version. My grandfather had it on a vinyl which I eventually inherited.
@@michaelaboud-azran4592 Are you Maronite or Coptic Christian, out of curiosity
@@rao8559 I am actually Melchite Greek Catholic, but by choice. My background is Moroccan Jewish and Irish. I was baptized as an adult. The part of my name that raises your question was gifted to me by my wife's family.
@@michaelaboud-azran4592 That is quite an exotic background. You must be rather stunning to look at!
Interesting considering that Paul invented this whole scene
This is from Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John; not from Paul!
@@Cjnw
Paul wrote the original script and the writers of Matthew and Mark and Luke and John all copied and pasted
I stand by what I already said
@@theprinceofdarkness4679 didnt paul write it 80 years after? How would those guys still be alive
@@Warm_and_loveable
Paul wrote his version in the 50s
The Mark version was written in the 70s
The Matthew version was written in the 80s
The John and Luke versions were probably written after the year 100
That is the consensus of serious Bible scholars
Paul was definitely not present at the events and apparently is based on his visions
In fact it is most likely that Paul fabricated everything including his alleged visits to James and Peter and John
Not a single word in the New testament is actually based on eyewitness accounts
For all we know the whole scene in the movie is based on Paul's overactive imagination
@@theprinceofdarkness4679 wouldn't that make John like 130 when he wrote his version?
They shared the holy crunch bread and why is music
all the ancient women have perms. give me a break
It's cuz Jewish people often have curly hair.
The Roman Empire was multikulti
2:25 traitor.
Ma3mol to compare actual jesus to us if we were in his place
Thissa no good. I canna see their faces. Everybody up and move to the same side of the table.
Interesting that Jesus has a Brooklyn accent. Yo.
It’s jus a movie not actual footage
Now I just hear him saying :
"Hey, I am preachin' 'ere!"
All American Christ.
It should've been a British (York) accent,
It would've made it more genuine, no?
I thought they drank from the holy grail
The holy grail is not in the bible, it's from the stories of King Arthur.
@@dunstantom It's the cup used to collect the blood of Jesus when he was stabbed by a spear on the cross that's what the Arthurian Grail Knights were after.
Min 2;49 por que tiene sangre en la boca?
what great words.....i am the way the truth and the life.....there are people..today...still are stupid,,,,,,,they think that catholic mass..is savage,,,,,,that eating the body and blood of christ which the symbol of christ,, is savage.////eating the bread and drinking the wine,,,is a commitment to understanding christ if he held the first mass and said eat and drink them why is so hard to believe..
Its actually ritualistic and technically a sacrament or a form of witchcraft
Ceremonial if you will
I remember all the protests of this movie. Bible thumpers priests and others all stood in front of the one theater that showed this movie.
How did last supper bread
Who is that blonde white dude supposed to be
This is different than the other last suppers from other Christ movies, this one has women in it unlike the gospels
9000_300000 like for chrisis
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Bakit puro babae
They're not masking. A.B.M.--Always Be Masking!
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Normie
This isn't a movie about Jesus like a biography, It's just blasfemy. Ignore it and don't fight with people on the comments as they are probably talking about the movie rather than the bible.
Why exactly is it blasphemy?
For showing a more humanized Jesus?
@Exodus 3:14 Yes, because anything that isn't how you want it to be is "blasphemy".
@@azazel166 exactly!!
Scorsese is a Catholic. He's probably a much stronger believer in the faith than you are considering how much he's attacked his own philosophies throughout his films. Rather than accusing those appreciating the artistry and the attempt to find the humanity in his savior, perhaps you should consider that Jesus was, in fact, a man.
Not about this specific scene, I'm not even christian, to me Jesus was a man, a profet, not a god.
First comment!
Normie
Guys the director in this movie no im not bully in this movie im just saying the truth this movie is wrong style the true last supper is jesus and his 12 boys dicsiple there is no girls so means is wrong
The gospels were written by men that didn’t think women were worth more than an ox.
This movie is also based on a 20th century novel, which was an intentional deviation from the biblical texts. I'm getting tired of seeing countless uninformed comments about this movie from people who haven't bothered to do their homework.
@@gyniest
In fairness (and I don’t mean to sound patronising) the commenter is clearly just a kid, so I think we should give them a pass on this one. At least now they know to do some research next time.
So he's white now lol keep trying
Jesus was a Jewish man from Galilee, of course he wasn't white. But you forgot...IT'S JUST A MOVIE.
An image of a false Messiah can do a lot of damage. Everyone thinking Christ is white means to look at ur Enemy as a God
@@justton8983 He's just an actor...
I know where ur coming from saying who cares. I do n a group of people that don’t know the real men of that book looks like them not like this.
His eye and hair color are different too. Movie ruined!
This movie is grossly inaccurate... dark... and blastphemeous.... The makers of this movie obviously does not know God personally or know who God really is.....
The worst offense jesus being white?
@@Warm_and_loveable No, but you are offensive there asswhite....
it's not be supposed accurate, it's just an alternate fiction of Jesus's human side, clearly you haven't been paying attention.
@@loneoutsider8004 Lame
Thanks for supporting my point... Are your demons bringing you peace?