@undyne4032 Thats not necessarily true. If the jedi explained the rule of two, even slightly, to the senate, there is a higher probability that they would have at least heard maul out.
@@KylePerdueSo if you would here captured Erwin Rommel and heard him speak against Roosevelt, you would of course listen to someone who fought against your great leader
@undyne4032 The difference is in the Star wars universe. Lets not act like there isnt a million and one ways to understand whats going on in someones head. The force. Droids. Technology. You name it.
YES! This is the true message that should be put forward. The Force is one. Just as Revan said. "only a fool enters battle wielding only 1/2 the Force."
Anakin: The red lightsaber with the chancelor finger prints, the injuries I substained in our fight and the room that was destroyed in our clash. How's that for physical evidence? Judge: We find Anakin skywalker not guilty! Jarjar: Meesa timas come. Excute odah 66
That's what i was thinking too, if anything he would say that Palpatine was the sith lord, feels like this guy completely forgot about the whole Maul was captured thing lol
@@Dbzmaster159 I was thinking about that the whole time they talked about evidence And he has a second Saber too, even if his first was destroyed My only idea to the contrary would be that Mas Amedda purposefully hid or destroyed them, but then that would be something brought up in the video
@@Billyblue98 I think it is implied that Mas Amedda started working to cover up for Palpatine immediately. He was certainly prepared to counter any interference in the trial by Padme. Though I feel that the obvious preparation on that matter should have raised the ability to question Mas Amedda's own conflicts of interest.
@@detroitmade6i don't think people really think about how bad he was actually manipulated. Doesn't help that the Jedi were pretty much playing into his hands as well. Like let's be real they did 90% of the work palps just spun the narrative a little
Nah, it was just bad writing on Lucas's part. It directly went against his established character. He wouldn't go "I have to save Padme!" he'd go "This is the guy trying to kill Padme!"
Not bad but could have used more information on what the Jedi did during the trial as well as their reaction to what happened with palps, earlier than when it was shown that is.
WOW, DUDE! Thar was an awesome 'What If', with an awesome battle between Anakin and Palpatine. Ir had a crazy plot twist, with an ending that tugged my heartstrings. It even had voices of Anakin, Ahsoka, Padme, and Palpatine.
I mean, what do you expect from the second in command and complete sycophant that is Mas. Honestly, he was probably the one that scrubbed all the evidence, probably went searching for all papa Palp’s lightsabers as well.
I’ll never let this go: If Samuel Jackson tells you to stay in a room until he gets back, YOU STAY IN THAT ROOM UNTIL HE GETS BACK! That’s all Anakin had to do.
@@jesusrodolforeinagagenesta1871 Yep! How're you gonna put him on the Jedi counsel, but not make him a Master? The man even had his own Padawan at this point. Yoda and Windu F'D up big time.
@@rikk319 Qui Gon was a Grey Jedi (or the closest thing to it) and he knew it. The Jedi at that point were so paranoid of the Dark Side or anything that went against the Jedi code, you were either 100% with the Jedi Code and Light Side or nothing at all. Yes, Anakin needed patience and wisdom, but using Qui Gon isn't a good argument. Anakin's fall was fueled by one core thing, fear. The Jedi did nothing to help him through that because they didn't know how and because they were also afraid, but were able to hide it underneath tradition. That version of the Jedi needed to be destroyed. Luke's new Jedi Order (in legends) is the ideal Jedi Order. He allowed attachment and allowed both the Light and Dark sides to be practiced. He understood there's not really a "light" or "dark" side, there's only The Force.
This doesn't line up with Qui-Gon Jinn's understanding/view of the force. He felt balance in the force was a purging of the dark side. He would never advocate for what this story claims. He felt the dark was caused by imbalance, sort of.
no, he felt the force was the light and the dark, but believed that the only way to live in his mind was in the light, since darkness is destruction and chaos while the light is life. he felt both were innate inextricable components of the force.
Alternate universe: Anakin pauses in the council chamber and realized he never told Palpatine about a bunch of stuff. He realizes he was used and decided to kill him. Which he does when mace tries to arrest him
Well that is the catch . This isn’t the old republic the senate have no information or idea about the ancient religion and how they are Evil . That alone does not prove anything as it is not illegal to be a sith
Honestly, a what-if series could be a nice change up from the usual shows. Even if Anakin never became Darth Vader, for example, he is still the same person, and it would be interesting to see how he handles and struggles with different challenges even if it wasn't Palpatine's influence this time. When he is written well, Anakin is such an interesting character as the "chosen one" because in a lot of ways, he does represent balance in the Force. Too passionate to be a proper Jedi, but too humane to completely lose to the dark side (unless he is broken as a person entirely, which is what Palpatine did when he had lost everything including Padme and his own sense of humanity for what he had done to the younglings, betrayed his most trusted friend, and gave into his fears). I'm not a huge Star Wars fan, so my opinion doesn't really matter much though. I just do like learning more about Anakin as a person.
honestly, a 3vs1 would be absolutely Amazing: Mace Windu, Obi-Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker vs Palpatine But with Kenobi and Windu joining after Kenobi senses a disturbance
This is honestly why i didnt care for Lucas' handling of Anakin's arc in the prequels: it made him look like such a dense chump. He literally CONFRONTS Palpatine and threatens to turn him in after finding out he's the "phantom menace" they've been looking for....and not an hour later is pledging his total devotion to the evil bastard. I get being conflicted because Palpatine was something of a grandfatherly figure to him...but its honestly like finding out your elder family member is a serial killer. You can understandably NOT want to see them killed...but who in their right mind is gonna take him up on his offer to join him in his exploits??? Anakin's actions after stopping Windu go far beyond someone who's desperate. He completely flips who and what he is...just to secure the POSSIBILITY of getting access to something that ONE day MIGHT save his wife. Its so beyond stupid. And while im not above believing there are ppl who could 100% react this way in real life, its a whole different animal to try and write your protagonist to be this disjointed. Ultimately, it was just sad and disappointing to see Vader's backstory handled so sloppily. Lucas had the perfect opportunity to use the PT to tell a hero's journey tale that parallels Luke's, but ends in tragedy as we see the hero fall for all the dangers that his son is taught to avoid in the OT. We should've gotten an Anakin who starts off a genuinely good man, not damaged goods. Then we watch as his growing acuity in the Force starts to warp his perspective...leading him to commit worse and worse actions even as he struggles to do what he feels is the right thing. Ultimately his corruption by the pull of power offered by the dark side leads him astray of his love for Luke/Leias mother...and into the employ of a man who will lead the galaxy into an era of tyranny (Palpatine). Proper tragedy...and a far more befitting backstory for one of cinema's greatest all time villains (nevermind that its much more in line with everything we are told in the OT) Such a simple story concept, yet Lucas chose to tell a less concise, more convoluted story that makes Anakin feel less relatable...his fall from grace make less sense...and the transition into his dark side alter ego feel less tragic 😢
Couldn't agree more. I seriously dislike the Anakin character because of just how stupid and impulsive they made him. His tendency for control could certainly have been used more and lead to his fall. Somehow suddenly though he flips a switch and is a true believer of the propaganda that the Jedi were plotting to overthrow Palpatine.
@@joemadda Honestly, the Prequel Trilogy watches like a propaganda film made by the Jedi of that era. It made it seem like a Jedi afraid of losing his wife will go down the path of becoming the right hand man of a murderous despot. The obvious goal being to use the most extreme example to show why their rules on attachment are necessary. Anakin's fall to the dark side simply doesn't register with me, because it makes little sense. Also, the way Sith are treated in Star Wars is also unrealistic. A large part being that psychology, politics, and philosophy are not really explored much in the saga. Take the OT, where Palpatine tells Luke to take Vader's place at his side. The problem is that Luke is part of anti-fascist resistance movement whereas Palpatine is the fascist dictator he's trying to overthrow. Somehow, the movie treats it as though Luke will automatically go from being an anti-fascist to being a fascist if he strikes down the chief enforcer of the fascist regime (putting aside the fact that Vader is Anakin for now).
What if jar jar accidentaly made palpatine fall on the ground and make slip his lightsaber of his sleeve in front of the jedi during the meeting juste before the begining of the Clone Wars ?
Because then the Jedi catch the supposed Sith lord and then lull themselves back into believing the Sith were once again eliminated, giving The true dark lord of the Sith more time to bring about their destruction while they fall back into their own ways😂
He's not a threat at the moment, but Sith are supposed to rise against their Masters. In the above scenario, it would be revealed that palps was a sith, and if Jar Jar helped palps, they would both die. So sacrifices have to be made
One of the many failures of Lucas while writing Star Wars is the fact he did not give the Jedi a good amount of "brain power". Lucas focused on The Force aspects. We see bounty hunters and Sith using strategy with a mastery not common amongst the Jedi. The Jedi were powerful naive kids blinded by their own arrogance and group thinking.
This needs a part two badly. This can be a whole new timeline , obviously the jedi would have to change , anakin would be so powerful at this stage and still growing. With his children and obiwan with him, there is no end to the adventures this can lead too.
This was amazing. I’ve been a fan of your videos for a while and it’s always fun to see your interesting SW what if’s. It was also fun to see Anakin realizing Palpatine manipulating him getting shown some love. This is definitely an interesting scenario and it should definitely get shown some more love. Great job as always and I can’t wait to see what you do next. I do have a few ideas for some possible what if’s: 1) What if Rey was a Mandalorian…essentially what if Din Djarin found Rey and took her in as a Foundling. 2) What if Ezra was a Mandalorian…something like how both his parents were Mandalorians who left Mandalore and went to start their own lives (you could still keep most of Ezra’s backstory) and potentially make Ezra and Sabine a couple (since Disney won’t, we have too…#ezrabine4ever. 3) What if Jango Fett and/or Boba Fett Joined the Republic…I think something interesting could happen with this. 4) What if Rey, Finn and Poe went back in time to the Clone Wars…this would make the World Between Worlds even more of an important focal point and I could also see them get along well with Anakin, Ashoka, Rex and the rest of the 501st (it would be fun to see Rey, Finn and Poe join the 501st) I hope these are some amazing ideas for some potential What if’s
With most of these What Ifs. Palpatine wasn't just a Master manipulator, but a schemer. Man had control of 2 factions, both of which could be his Empire. I'm sure his knowledge of Sith transference and a secret cloning facility. That coming back he'd make sure to take over the Seperstists and get rid of incompetent leaders. After all he wanted the Empire to be formed in the Republic, but I'm sure with knowing Death Star construction location and possibly persuading Tarkin. It would be as he said, a civil war with no end.
One of the big holes in the story for me has always been around Qui-Gon jinn, who was undoubtedly the greatest of the Jedi of the modern era. I really enjoyed the way you reimagined this.
In this scenario, I would have thought Sideous' lightsaber would be proof enough, assuming Mas Amedda didn't immediately seize and destroy it during and immediately after Anakin's arrest. I concur that Palpatine wouldn't have left any kind of paper trail that would directly implicate him, but a lightsaber of the Sith would be pretty tough to explain away. Still, the lack of mention of Sideous' saber after his death isn't necessarily a plot hole in your scenario, as it could be easily explained by Mas Amedda being accompanied by Clone Troopers that he trusted, if not outright turned using one of the Orders ingrained into the inhibitor chips. However, I should think even if Mas Amedda obtained Sideous' lightsaber during the arrest of Anakin, Padme and Organa should've recognized the lightsaber as the single most important piece of evidence they needed to clear Anakin's name. The question is: Would Mas Amedda immediately destroy it and with it one of the last links to Sith history, or preserve it as a link to the past for future Sith to rise and seize for themselves? That would depend on how loyal Mas was to Palpatine, and I can't imagine Palpatine keeping him as his second if he thought Mas wasn't completely and totally dedicated to his vision.
That was badass! I subbed. It's like I've been saying a gifted a 9-year-old could write a better Star Wars story than Disney. The base-story of Star Wars is kind of the best content ever created. It's so good, that it practically takes planned effort to screw it up.
Well done. The only thing is, I'm REALLY surprised Obi-Wan doesn't come into the story till the very end. Also, where is Master Yoda? Mace Windu? Plo Koon? Kit Fisto et al? Since Mace never goes to arrest Chancellor Pruneface, he must still be alive. Plus, there's no Order 66.
Thrilled, when Asoka, fiiinnaly.. showed up. But I really expected that to happen when demands for evidence were made, with a surprisingly willing and informative Darth Mall, in hand.
I mean, the fact that there was a red bladed lightsaber at the scene of the fight would be pretty good evidence. And Maul, who was in custody at that time, could prove Skywalker was innocent.
this is pretty much as it should of gone down, but we witnessed the darkest outcome turn to light so odds are this timeline would of turned really dark with Luke and Leia, a toll must be paid.
Why does Qui-gon not have a purple lightsaber too, then again I know why, because it was a new colour with no meaning at the time. Sam Jackson was just like "Give me purple please" and George said "Yeah ok"
The biggest question is what if palpatine found him first on tatoonine. and then he met padme and obi wan and qui gon would he switch to the Jedi from being a Sith Lord, I think it’s because anakin was older idk what happened after episode 1 made they should make that part of the story in clone war animation probably tails of the Jedi what obi wan and anakin earlier days was palpatine manipulation , palpatine can see the future and passed right ?
When anakin was on trial every thought would run throughout his head but 1 thought would come to mind in desperation he remembered what fives told him before his death and anakin tells the senators about the chips in the clones and it gets investigated boom done
unfortunatly Anakin was very emotionally unstable and oh the statues in Palpatine's chambers one had Plaguse's ashes the other had his spare lightsaber
Love that Qui Gon was touching on the philosophy of Jolee Bindo and other EU stories like 'Revan: Rescue Mission', who tries to convince the player that emotions, even love, don't lead to the dark side in fact love can set a man free, but they can lead to passions that must be guarded against or you'll cease to be in balance with the force. "The Force has existed long before the Jedi and Sith divided it into Light and Dark". AFAIK George Lucas didn't agree and saw the Force as being Light and selfless and Dark as selfish and therefore the world itself in very black and white terms. The world isn't like that and the EU, especially the Revan story often touched on themes like this which was imo much more satisfying. On the other hand that whole 'world between worlds' thing was such lazy writing from Disney and perhaps, it was all because Filoni couldn't bear to kill off his beloved Ahsoka? Shame to see it used here. Anakin could have 'jumped out the window' gone back to the Temple to raise the alarm and then has a vision of Qui Gon while under anaesthetic for his 'flesh wound' so let's the Force heal him and goes back to help Windu in the nick of time and get's a seat on the Council to help steer the Jedi in a new direction after the total failure of Yoda and the other Masters to seek out the Sith and protect the Republic. How many Billions are dead at this point? I know - plot contrivances lol. The rest of the story presumes Anakin is the last Jedi alive because none of them intercede in the 'trial' of the Republic's greatest hero. But, Order 66 is never given so the blemish of Jedi corruption continues? Would the Senate have put Master Windu and the other Masters on trial if he hadn't wobbled and fallen out the window at the last minute? Anakin was the chosen one, to bring balance to the Force, just not in the way the Jedi were expecting.
14:19 Where's the evidence? How about the red lightsaber with one set of fingerprints all over it. How about the other items hidden away that the Jedi can confirm were touched by a Sith Lord? 17:50 a year later?! What were the Jedi doing to clear his name, all this the?
No evidence? The red frikin lightsaber? Finger prints? Travel passes and Palpatine Guards. Camino? Jango Fett. Count Dookus telling Obiwan about Darth Sidious?
As we know darth vader was a natural engineer and could use mechaguru or whatever so what if he used skill to create nanobots to repair his lungs and burns while also making limbs that could conduct the force to make lightning. This could relate to inquisitor baris as she used nanobots in the bomb and he may remember nanobots and their uses. He could could also conduct experiments diguised as torture to fool sidious, learning to heal wounds, make force sensitive droids/limbs and using nano bots to manipulate mididclorians to strip or enhance the force in individuals. What I was thinking was that he used nanobots to remove scar tissue especially around the lungs and he would be dipped in bacta or bacta would be applied this would allow him breath which means he can meditate more deeply. And for the limbs, it is possible to make material force sensitive and I was thinking he make limbs skeletal looking like in attack of the clones but would then cover the we either grafed flesh from his body or flesh made from his blood and other ingredients like perhaps kyber crystal this would make the force flow from him easier and perhaps with the sith alchemy in the limbs making his force lightning more powerful. Basically an uber vader who is perhaps stronger than full potential anakin.
I don't really like how most of these stories ends with Palpatine dying, or instantly winning in that moment. If Anakin realised he was being manipulated, and fought with him, chances are he escaped and had contingencies in place for it. If he did die, he'd have clones. We'd just get a very different episode 6, 7 and 8
What if darth vader went to darthomir to learn. New suit or perhaps more unique powers. Resurrect talzin maybe. what if Vokara Che became a mentor to anakin as anakin was being treated for bullying and trauma from being a slave. What if anakin fell in love with luminara unduli, serra keto or bultar swan. What if anakin was taught by agen kolar or sasee tin or adi gallia.
What if anakin spirit in the world between worlds saved padme by making her a force ghost or new mother if the ones. She could make him help ben solo and others saying you got to help people who are suffering from your past actions. What if anakin was piloting before attack of the clones and sensed ventress fall to the darkside as her master died and took his ship to the planet to investigate. Perhaps starting a romance as they are very similar in their stories. Also what if ahsoka taught ben skywalker as she saw him as history repeating itself. What if anakin was a jedi watchmen or wayfinder. What if anakin went with kenobi to face maul and savage instead of adi gallia. What if anakin fell in love with luminara or your own version of aayla secura romance. What if oppo rancis trained anakin. What if anakin met and fell in love with ventress just before the clone wars just after her masters death. What if anakin became a jedi sentinel like a watchmen or one of those who find younglings. What if evan piel became a mentor or second master to anakin. Or anakin became a healer either before or after his mother death could be related to his friendship with offee or alternatively what if he was trained by tra sa who taught windu and actually did not forbid attachment as shown by her relationship with tholme , they could become like a pseudo parents to anakin and train him away from the temple in azati martial arts and from trasa the living force as she is a plant lady so imagine anakin controlling plant life.
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But if Ashoka was ok and order 66 had not happened, Maul would be in custody, he could easily prove who Sidious was
Nobody would listen to Warlord who manipulated situation to began Republic's siege of Mandalore
@undyne4032 Thats not necessarily true. If the jedi explained the rule of two, even slightly, to the senate, there is a higher probability that they would have at least heard maul out.
@@KylePerdueSo if you would here captured Erwin Rommel and heard him speak against Roosevelt, you would of course listen to someone who fought against your great leader
@undyne4032 The difference is in the Star wars universe. Lets not act like there isnt a million and one ways to understand whats going on in someones head. The force. Droids. Technology. You name it.
also the fact that Sidious had a fucking red light Sabre next to his corpse and the senators would have been able to see it when they broke in
YES! This is the true message that should be put forward. The Force is one. Just as Revan said. "only a fool enters battle wielding only 1/2 the Force."
Who?
Anakin: The red lightsaber with the chancelor finger prints, the injuries I substained in our fight and the room that was destroyed in our clash. How's that for physical evidence?
Judge: We find Anakin skywalker not guilty!
Jarjar: Meesa timas come. Excute odah 66
I thought of quite a different ending which is darth maul testifying that the sith was palpatine
That's what i was thinking too, if anything he would say that Palpatine was the sith lord, feels like this guy completely forgot about the whole Maul was captured thing lol
@@reiex1589 Also I don't recall hearing about Palpatine's saber being destroyed, so the blade could've still been with his corpse.
@@Dbzmaster159
I was thinking about that the whole time they talked about evidence
And he has a second Saber too, even if his first was destroyed
My only idea to the contrary would be that Mas Amedda purposefully hid or destroyed them, but then that would be something brought up in the video
@@Billyblue98 I think it is implied that Mas Amedda started working to cover up for Palpatine immediately. He was certainly prepared to counter any interference in the trial by Padme. Though I feel that the obvious preparation on that matter should have raised the ability to question Mas Amedda's own conflicts of interest.
Nolan: Think Anakin, Think.
WHAT WILL YOU HAVE IN 500 YEARS?!
What will you have IN 20 YEARS
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Nolan: And after you're done thinking get me those pictures of Spiderman!
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story should’ve been called what if Anakin had common sense
Or If he had 10+ more intelligence
@@decadeultimagamer Yet confronting the chancellery alone dropped all that.
@@sirvantanite1307 That's why I chosen 10 and not 20. LOL
Kinda ain't that simple when you've been manipulated for 13 years
@@detroitmade6i don't think people really think about how bad he was actually manipulated. Doesn't help that the Jedi were pretty much playing into his hands as well. Like let's be real they did 90% of the work palps just spun the narrative a little
I think he did realize it as soon as Palpatine revealed himself but his desire to save Padme is what kept him from listening to Mace
Yeah in the book he did realize, and decided to kill him, AFTER saving padme
Nah, it was just bad writing on Lucas's part. It directly went against his established character. He wouldn't go "I have to save Padme!" he'd go "This is the guy trying to kill Padme!"
Not bad but could have used more information on what the Jedi did during the trial as well as their reaction to what happened with palps, earlier than when it was shown that is.
WOW, DUDE!
Thar was an awesome 'What If', with an awesome battle between Anakin and Palpatine. Ir had a crazy plot twist, with an ending that tugged my heartstrings. It even had voices of Anakin, Ahsoka, Padme, and Palpatine.
What if Baylan Skoll used his powers of clairvoyance to warn the Jedi Council about Anakin falling to the Dark Side and the Jedi Purge?
Because palpatine needs a little plot armour.💀💀💀
Wait
Shouldn't they have found Palpatine's lightsaber? Anakin never destroyed it...
That is definitely hard evidence.
Alt title: "What if Anakin used his common sense?"
Mas Amedda bringing up their relationship caught me completely off guard that was very petty and uncalled for 😂😂😂😭
I mean, what do you expect from the second in command and complete sycophant that is Mas. Honestly, he was probably the one that scrubbed all the evidence, probably went searching for all papa Palp’s lightsabers as well.
Palpatine's Lightsaber:
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I’ll never let this go: If Samuel Jackson tells you to stay in a room until he gets back, YOU STAY IN THAT ROOM UNTIL HE GETS BACK! That’s all Anakin had to do.
If he Let him be a master nothing bad whould have hapened
@@jesusrodolforeinagagenesta1871 Yep! How're you gonna put him on the Jedi counsel, but not make him a Master? The man even had his own Padawan at this point. Yoda and Windu F'D up big time.
@@ju5t1ce33 Qui Gon wasn't allowed on the Council and he didn't throw a fit over it. Patience and wisdom would have been Anakin's best tools.
@@rikk319 Qui Gon was a Grey Jedi (or the closest thing to it) and he knew it. The Jedi at that point were so paranoid of the Dark Side or anything that went against the Jedi code, you were either 100% with the Jedi Code and Light Side or nothing at all. Yes, Anakin needed patience and wisdom, but using Qui Gon isn't a good argument. Anakin's fall was fueled by one core thing, fear. The Jedi did nothing to help him through that because they didn't know how and because they were also afraid, but were able to hide it underneath tradition. That version of the Jedi needed to be destroyed. Luke's new Jedi Order (in legends) is the ideal Jedi Order. He allowed attachment and allowed both the Light and Dark sides to be practiced. He understood there's not really a "light" or "dark" side, there's only The Force.
This doesn't line up with Qui-Gon Jinn's understanding/view of the force. He felt balance in the force was a purging of the dark side. He would never advocate for what this story claims. He felt the dark was caused by imbalance, sort of.
no, he felt the force was the light and the dark, but believed that the only way to live in his mind was in the light, since darkness is destruction and chaos while the light is life. he felt both were innate inextricable components of the force.
Alternate universe: Anakin pauses in the council chamber and realized he never told Palpatine about a bunch of stuff. He realizes he was used and decided to kill him. Which he does when mace tries to arrest him
Palpatine's red-bladed lightsaber is evidence that Anakin is telling the truth.
Well that is the catch . This isn’t the old republic the senate have no information or idea about the ancient religion and how they are Evil . That alone does not prove anything as it is not illegal to be a sith
I think anakin knew he was being manipulated after palpatine told him he was a sith but he didn’t care because all he was worried about was padme
Honestly, a what-if series could be a nice change up from the usual shows. Even if Anakin never became Darth Vader, for example, he is still the same person, and it would be interesting to see how he handles and struggles with different challenges even if it wasn't Palpatine's influence this time. When he is written well, Anakin is such an interesting character as the "chosen one" because in a lot of ways, he does represent balance in the Force. Too passionate to be a proper Jedi, but too humane to completely lose to the dark side (unless he is broken as a person entirely, which is what Palpatine did when he had lost everything including Padme and his own sense of humanity for what he had done to the younglings, betrayed his most trusted friend, and gave into his fears).
I'm not a huge Star Wars fan, so my opinion doesn't really matter much though. I just do like learning more about Anakin as a person.
This is without a doubt the best alternative ending video I have ever watched .
You got a new subscriber dude
honestly, a 3vs1 would be absolutely Amazing:
Mace Windu, Obi-Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker vs Palpatine
But with Kenobi and Windu joining after Kenobi senses a disturbance
This is honestly why i didnt care for Lucas' handling of Anakin's arc in the prequels: it made him look like such a dense chump. He literally CONFRONTS Palpatine and threatens to turn him in after finding out he's the "phantom menace" they've been looking for....and not an hour later is pledging his total devotion to the evil bastard. I get being conflicted because Palpatine was something of a grandfatherly figure to him...but its honestly like finding out your elder family member is a serial killer. You can understandably NOT want to see them killed...but who in their right mind is gonna take him up on his offer to join him in his exploits???
Anakin's actions after stopping Windu go far beyond someone who's desperate. He completely flips who and what he is...just to secure the POSSIBILITY of getting access to something that ONE day MIGHT save his wife. Its so beyond stupid. And while im not above believing there are ppl who could 100% react this way in real life, its a whole different animal to try and write your protagonist to be this disjointed. Ultimately, it was just sad and disappointing to see Vader's backstory handled so sloppily.
Lucas had the perfect opportunity to use the PT to tell a hero's journey tale that parallels Luke's, but ends in tragedy as we see the hero fall for all the dangers that his son is taught to avoid in the OT. We should've gotten an Anakin who starts off a genuinely good man, not damaged goods. Then we watch as his growing acuity in the Force starts to warp his perspective...leading him to commit worse and worse actions even as he struggles to do what he feels is the right thing. Ultimately his corruption by the pull of power offered by the dark side leads him astray of his love for Luke/Leias mother...and into the employ of a man who will lead the galaxy into an era of tyranny (Palpatine). Proper tragedy...and a far more befitting backstory for one of cinema's greatest all time villains (nevermind that its much more in line with everything we are told in the OT)
Such a simple story concept, yet Lucas chose to tell a less concise, more convoluted story that makes Anakin feel less relatable...his fall from grace make less sense...and the transition into his dark side alter ego feel less tragic
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Couldn't agree more. I seriously dislike the Anakin character because of just how stupid and impulsive they made him. His tendency for control could certainly have been used more and lead to his fall. Somehow suddenly though he flips a switch and is a true believer of the propaganda that the Jedi were plotting to overthrow Palpatine.
@@joemadda Honestly, the Prequel Trilogy watches like a propaganda film made by the Jedi of that era. It made it seem like a Jedi afraid of losing his wife will go down the path of becoming the right hand man of a murderous despot. The obvious goal being to use the most extreme example to show why their rules on attachment are necessary. Anakin's fall to the dark side simply doesn't register with me, because it makes little sense.
Also, the way Sith are treated in Star Wars is also unrealistic. A large part being that psychology, politics, and philosophy are not really explored much in the saga. Take the OT, where Palpatine tells Luke to take Vader's place at his side. The problem is that Luke is part of anti-fascist resistance movement whereas Palpatine is the fascist dictator he's trying to overthrow. Somehow, the movie treats it as though Luke will automatically go from being an anti-fascist to being a fascist if he strikes down the chief enforcer of the fascist regime (putting aside the fact that Vader is Anakin for now).
What if jar jar accidentaly made palpatine fall on the ground and make slip his lightsaber of his sleeve in front of the jedi during the meeting juste before the begining of the Clone Wars ?
Why would he expose his scapegoat that makes no sense
@@nekogamer2508 true why would Dark Jar Jar do something so stupid
Because then the Jedi catch the supposed Sith lord and then lull themselves back into believing the Sith were once again eliminated, giving The true dark lord of the Sith more time to bring about their destruction while they fall back into their own ways😂
Why would Darth Jar-Jar kill his own apprentice while he was not a threat?
He's not a threat at the moment, but Sith are supposed to rise against their Masters. In the above scenario, it would be revealed that palps was a sith, and if Jar Jar helped palps, they would both die. So sacrifices have to be made
Well put together!
One of the many failures of Lucas while writing Star Wars is the fact he did not give the Jedi a good amount of "brain power". Lucas focused on The Force aspects. We see bounty hunters and Sith using strategy with a mastery not common amongst the Jedi. The Jedi were powerful naive kids blinded by their own arrogance and group thinking.
This is the star wars reboot we need
We need a part 2 to this
9:05 Luke and windu are examples of Jedis who mastered both
Sir you really outdid yourself on this one.
Just look at palpatines lightsaber 😅
I'd guess yoda upon hearing the news he'd be like "Proud of you I am Anakin"
damn bro i was hoping that Ahsoka would bring Maul in to testify that Palpatine was Sidious
This needs a part two badly. This can be a whole new timeline , obviously the jedi would have to change , anakin would be so powerful at this stage and still growing. With his children and obiwan with him, there is no end to the adventures this can lead too.
I love it, but there are far too many hands left unsevered for it to feel real
😂😂 you’re right… your right
They really need to i make a movie with Anakin becoming full potential and showcasing the most unbelievable powers ever seen . Come on we need this
What if Abraham Lincoln was the chancellor and fought against slavery. Anakin would love him and see him as someone to admire.
That would definitely be interesting.
What if anakin used upstairs brain instead of downstairs brain 😮
We need a version of a series like this. Like the one "If we".
This was really terrific!
This was amazing. I’ve been a fan of your videos for a while and it’s always fun to see your interesting SW what if’s. It was also fun to see Anakin realizing Palpatine manipulating him getting shown some love. This is definitely an interesting scenario and it should definitely get shown some more love. Great job as always and I can’t wait to see what you do next.
I do have a few ideas for some possible what if’s:
1) What if Rey was a Mandalorian…essentially what if Din Djarin found Rey and took her in as a Foundling.
2) What if Ezra was a Mandalorian…something like how both his parents were Mandalorians who left Mandalore and went to start their own lives (you could still keep most of Ezra’s backstory) and potentially make Ezra and Sabine a couple (since Disney won’t, we have too…#ezrabine4ever.
3) What if Jango Fett and/or Boba Fett Joined the Republic…I think something interesting could happen with this.
4) What if Rey, Finn and Poe went back in time to the Clone Wars…this would make the World Between Worlds even more of an important focal point and I could also see them get along well with Anakin, Ashoka, Rex and the rest of the 501st (it would be fun to see Rey, Finn and Poe join the 501st)
I hope these are some amazing ideas for some potential What if’s
What about the cameras that the emperor used to make the footage of Mace trying to.killnhim?
If Anakin showed them that Palpatine had red lightsaber they would have believe in him
We need a Star Wars What If
my goodness this what if story had me at the edge of my seat like damn why wasnt this the movie to watch
This one is so good. You did such an incredible job on this amazing what if.
Best fan fiction I ever heard. I wish we had a good ending like this, but awesome!
Anakin should kill Mas Amedda just for the he’ll of it
Yoo jedi academy. Respect man
Btw . You culdve freezed the NPCs and give them different poses. Like for anakin being on his knees
Thanks for the tip, i just got the mod and have been messing around with it.
Matter of fact if you don’t mind helping me out on how to do that I would appreciate it
Impossible.
Anakin was too stupid.
If it wasn't a droid he was lost.
If one uses both light and dark side, finds balance, I call it, the Dawn side
With most of these What Ifs. Palpatine wasn't just a Master manipulator, but a schemer. Man had control of 2 factions, both of which could be his Empire. I'm sure his knowledge of Sith transference and a secret cloning facility. That coming back he'd make sure to take over the Seperstists and get rid of incompetent leaders. After all he wanted the Empire to be formed in the Republic, but I'm sure with knowing Death Star construction location and possibly persuading Tarkin. It would be as he said, a civil war with no end.
One of the big holes in the story for me has always been around Qui-Gon jinn, who was undoubtedly the greatest of the Jedi of the modern era. I really enjoyed the way you reimagined this.
In this scenario, I would have thought Sideous' lightsaber would be proof enough, assuming Mas Amedda didn't immediately seize and destroy it during and immediately after Anakin's arrest. I concur that Palpatine wouldn't have left any kind of paper trail that would directly implicate him, but a lightsaber of the Sith would be pretty tough to explain away.
Still, the lack of mention of Sideous' saber after his death isn't necessarily a plot hole in your scenario, as it could be easily explained by Mas Amedda being accompanied by Clone Troopers that he trusted, if not outright turned using one of the Orders ingrained into the inhibitor chips. However, I should think even if Mas Amedda obtained Sideous' lightsaber during the arrest of Anakin, Padme and Organa should've recognized the lightsaber as the single most important piece of evidence they needed to clear Anakin's name. The question is: Would Mas Amedda immediately destroy it and with it one of the last links to Sith history, or preserve it as a link to the past for future Sith to rise and seize for themselves? That would depend on how loyal Mas was to Palpatine, and I can't imagine Palpatine keeping him as his second if he thought Mas wasn't completely and totally dedicated to his vision.
This is fantastic. I really wish this happened in Revenge of the Sith.
You forgot to add a space when Ahsoka said 'In Justice' and it came out as 'Injustice' lol
plenty of people believe in the Jedi and injustice, I don't think it's a mistake
That was badass! I subbed. It's like I've been saying a gifted a 9-year-old could write a better Star Wars story than Disney. The base-story of Star Wars is kind of the best content ever created. It's so good, that it practically takes planned effort to screw it up.
Well done. The only thing is, I'm REALLY surprised Obi-Wan doesn't come into the story till the very end. Also, where is Master Yoda? Mace Windu? Plo Koon? Kit Fisto et al? Since Mace never goes to arrest Chancellor Pruneface, he must still be alive. Plus, there's no Order 66.
Thrilled, when Asoka, fiiinnaly.. showed up. But I really expected that to happen when demands for evidence were made, with a surprisingly willing and informative Darth Mall, in hand.
So you didn't have Ahsoka bring in Maul. They could have used his testimony
Have you forgotten about Maul's capture!?
Why can't you make him testify!!!???
not really how the Force works but works for the sake of the story I guess
had me until you thought balance was equal parts light and dark
I mean, the fact that there was a red bladed lightsaber at the scene of the fight would be pretty good evidence. And Maul, who was in custody at that time, could prove Skywalker was innocent.
this is pretty much as it should of gone down, but we witnessed the darkest outcome turn to light so odds are this timeline would of turned really dark with Luke and Leia, a toll must be paid.
StarWars Kingdom is on fire right now 🔥
This needs a part 2
Love how you used ai i guess to use the actors voices for this.Great work,good story.
Why does Qui-gon not have a purple lightsaber too, then again I know why, because it was a new colour with no meaning at the time. Sam Jackson was just like "Give me purple please" and George said "Yeah ok"
Very nice variant. I liked it. :)
Thank you very much!
The biggest question is what if palpatine found him first on tatoonine. and then he met padme and obi wan and qui gon would he switch to the Jedi from being a Sith Lord, I think it’s because anakin was older idk what happened after episode 1 made they should make that part of the story in clone war animation probably tails of the Jedi what obi wan and anakin earlier days was palpatine manipulation , palpatine can see the future and passed right ?
When anakin was on trial every thought would run throughout his head but 1 thought would come to mind in desperation he remembered what fives told him before his death and anakin tells the senators about the chips in the clones and it gets investigated boom done
unfortunatly Anakin was very emotionally unstable and oh the statues in Palpatine's chambers one had Plaguse's ashes the other had his spare lightsaber
I'd love to see a part 2 if and when you decide to make it. Kind regards from Daniel Harman.
Amazing voice cast!
This was good asf
Love that Qui Gon was touching on the philosophy of Jolee Bindo and other EU stories like 'Revan: Rescue Mission', who tries to convince the player that emotions, even love, don't lead to the dark side in fact love can set a man free, but they can lead to passions that must be guarded against or you'll cease to be in balance with the force. "The Force has existed long before the Jedi and Sith divided it into Light and Dark".
AFAIK George Lucas didn't agree and saw the Force as being Light and selfless and Dark as selfish and therefore the world itself in very black and white terms. The world isn't like that and the EU, especially the Revan story often touched on themes like this which was imo much more satisfying.
On the other hand that whole 'world between worlds' thing was such lazy writing from Disney and perhaps, it was all because Filoni couldn't bear to kill off his beloved Ahsoka? Shame to see it used here. Anakin could have 'jumped out the window' gone back to the Temple to raise the alarm and then has a vision of Qui Gon while under anaesthetic for his 'flesh wound' so let's the Force heal him and goes back to help Windu in the nick of time and get's a seat on the Council to help steer the Jedi in a new direction after the total failure of Yoda and the other Masters to seek out the Sith and protect the Republic. How many Billions are dead at this point? I know - plot contrivances lol.
The rest of the story presumes Anakin is the last Jedi alive because none of them intercede in the 'trial' of the Republic's greatest hero.
But, Order 66 is never given so the blemish of Jedi corruption continues? Would the Senate have put Master Windu and the other Masters on trial if he hadn't wobbled and fallen out the window at the last minute?
Anakin was the chosen one, to bring balance to the Force, just not in the way the Jedi were expecting.
14:19 Where's the evidence? How about the red lightsaber with one set of fingerprints all over it. How about the other items hidden away that the Jedi can confirm were touched by a Sith Lord?
17:50 a year later?! What were the Jedi doing to clear his name, all this the?
Angelmodder loves your use of JKA assets!
No evidence? The red frikin lightsaber? Finger prints? Travel passes and Palpatine Guards. Camino? Jango Fett. Count Dookus telling Obiwan about Darth Sidious?
Great work!
What's the game you used for your animation
Very Groovy❣
Wouldn't Palpatine's lightsaber have been enough to cast suspicion?
Part 2 ASAP!!!
Where's Maul in all this and Palps' Red Saber, where'd that go??
As we know darth vader was a natural engineer and could use mechaguru or whatever so what if he used skill to create nanobots to repair his lungs and burns while also making limbs that could conduct the force to make lightning. This could relate to inquisitor baris as she used nanobots in the bomb and he may remember nanobots and their uses. He could could also conduct experiments diguised as torture to fool sidious, learning to heal wounds, make force sensitive droids/limbs and using nano bots to manipulate mididclorians to strip or enhance the force in individuals.
What I was thinking was that he used nanobots to remove scar tissue especially around the lungs and he would be dipped in bacta or bacta would be applied this would allow him breath which means he can meditate more deeply. And for the limbs, it is possible to make material force sensitive and I was thinking he make limbs skeletal looking like in attack of the clones but would then cover the we either grafed flesh from his body or flesh made from his blood and other ingredients like perhaps kyber crystal this would make the force flow from him easier and perhaps with the sith alchemy in the limbs making his force lightning more powerful. Basically an uber vader who is perhaps stronger than full potential anakin.
I don't really like how most of these stories ends with Palpatine dying, or instantly winning in that moment.
If Anakin realised he was being manipulated, and fought with him, chances are he escaped and had contingencies in place for it. If he did die, he'd have clones. We'd just get a very different episode 6, 7 and 8
"I have no physical proof" The bloody saber?
Somewhere on Rick's interdimensional cable box there are universes where star wars had thousands of films & games
Yay! I found a new Star Wars page!
What if darth vader went to darthomir to learn. New suit or perhaps more unique powers.
Resurrect talzin maybe.
what if Vokara Che became a mentor to anakin as anakin was being treated for bullying and trauma from being a slave.
What if anakin fell in love with luminara unduli, serra keto or bultar swan.
What if anakin was taught by agen kolar or sasee tin or adi gallia.
Honestly they would've found Palpatine's red lightsaber with his dead body and his fingerpints on it, that alone would've been evidence he's a Sith
What if anakin spirit in the world between worlds saved padme by making her a force ghost or new mother if the ones. She could make him help ben solo and others saying you got to help people who are suffering from your past actions.
What if anakin was piloting before attack of the clones and sensed ventress fall to the darkside as her master died and took his ship to the planet to investigate. Perhaps starting a romance as they are very similar in their stories.
Also what if ahsoka taught ben skywalker as she saw him as history repeating itself.
What if anakin was a jedi watchmen or wayfinder.
What if anakin went with kenobi to face maul and savage instead of adi gallia.
What if anakin fell in love with luminara or your own version of aayla secura romance.
What if oppo rancis trained anakin.
What if anakin met and fell in love with ventress just before the clone wars just after her masters death.
What if anakin became a jedi sentinel like a watchmen or one of those who find younglings.
What if evan piel became a mentor or second master to anakin.
Or anakin became a healer either before or after his mother death could be related to his friendship with offee or alternatively what if he was trained by tra sa who taught windu and actually did not forbid attachment as shown by her relationship with tholme , they could become like a pseudo parents to anakin and train him away from the temple in azati martial arts and from trasa the living force as she is a plant lady so imagine anakin controlling plant life.
I really enjoyed that ...thanks😊
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@StarWarsKingdom I enjoyed it too surely there have to be a Part Two For This Wouldn't You Agree
@@StarWarsKingdomCould you please do Order 65?
I've been waiting for this shit. Let's go!!!
Will there be a continuation of this story?
where did that picture you used for a young luke and leia come from? was it from an old movie or something?
can u tell which type of Victory Celebration music u used at the end of the video please?
Wait I can change the likes from 1.9 k to 2k epic
We need a animation of this