So even though he's having fun and it's not harming him in anyway to play the game. He should stop and be a follower. I said those same words back in 2015 to a friend of mine who wanted try ff14 with me 6 years ago I put 70 hours into trying to like that game and hated every moment of it. And don't say I just don't like new or eastern mmorpgs because I played blade and souls when that to US years ago and loved it. I ended up wow a month after quiting ff14 and play other games. I just came back to wow for classic and tbc and I have been having fun ever since. Even though all my friends quit a long time ago.
@@naquan59 soooo, no one else in the thread has even mentioned FFXIV... Heroine addicts enjoy themselves too. Still doesn't mean they should be doing it every day...
@@Lordoftheapes79 1. I said it's not harming himself or anybody else around him. 2. He doesn't play wow everyday 3. we are talking about ff14 because that is what in the title and what started this whole thing to begin with. 4. I seen at least 4 people in the comments of this video alone talking about how they ff14 everyday now so are you telling me it's ok to be addicted to ff14 but not wow which are both mmorpgs.
It really doesn't, because his last sentences were the most copium filled words I have heard in a while. And if someone gets forced so hard, they will seek for problems and stop before they even see what the game is all about.
Zepla, Asmon, Rich, Savix, Echo Team, huge ETC and pretty much EVERY other big WoW streamer moves to FFXIV. They all agree it was the best thing they ever did, when they thought the game wasn't for them. Guzu: "Nah man I'm good".
@@williamlesmana3046 bellular is literally blazing through the game since he hit heavensward and loving it, I’m so happy for him, especially since he’s such a big lore guy. Oh and pyromancer too
"I tried ff14, and i have level quite a bit" This sentence show exactly you did not play enough FF14 to give an convincing opinion. In ff14 no one care about your level. People only cares about where is your MSQ progress is, what you think of the story, and have you tried the side content beside fighting.
Facts you can lvl around the story but why play a game with voice acting cutscenes and dialogue and not have interest in the story. If your skipping the story you’re missing large parts of the game. period
@@thefanmark5165 i mean I a major fan of ffxiv i skipped the story and don't regret it at all. I play games for a challenge and for social experiences with people who enjoy the same hobby as me. I really don't think you have to have played through the story or know any of the charecter well to give a good opinion on the game. I can break down most of the current tier of raiding yall and I feel like that in some ways makes my opinion valid. If I started talking smack on the story then yeah yall may have a point, but I dont think its such a big deal to avoid it honestly.
@@empatheticfrog2052 that’s fine if you genuinely just don’t like story, which I doubt since I feel everybody watches movies or tv, but I feel like games like WoW have trained people to not give a fuck about anything other than endgame and if they gave the story a shot with an open mind they would have their minds blown by how enjoyable a story can be
Ill toss this out, since you seem a bit hesitant and not completely sold: You don't have to force yourself to play. FF14 is a very story-oriented game, and if the amount of dialogue and text that comes with it doesn't interest you, or actively turns you away, then you are free to not play. If the art looks uninteresting, or just not your style, then you don't have to pretend you like it. If you don't want to play it because you may worry that it would cause a crapstorm for you from either the WoW or FF communities, then by all means, do as you will. I think the important thing to take away from this exodus event is twofold: 1. WoW is deficient in certain things players want, and abundant in things they do not. Many people are leaving simply looking for a breath of fresh air, and some find that FF14 serves them much more of what they want, with extra. Some do go even further and even more games in the MMO sphere to enjoy. 2. As Yoshi P. himself said during the media tour (directly after the "do these developers even play their own game" comment), is that it is best for a person to play more than one game. To spread out the variety of your media diet is to enrich your pallet a little bit. It helps you evolve your tastes, and keeps you from becoming emotionally stale due to a lack of other things to consume. Even if FF14 isn't your cup of tea, you are still free to roam Azaroth, gank, tank, and rank to your heart's content, and say that you have what you want. And if not, then why not be the WoW refugee to Elder Scrolls Online instead. They'll never see it coming XD
Guild Wars 2 is also pretty good game from what I've heard. There is enough of good MMOs, not just FFXIV. Also, while it's not necessary, one would never know and it's better check. For me the biggest pull of XIV was the fact that it is a Final Fantasy game, but many people joined, not knowing FF meta and all the stuff we long-time fans expected from the series. While I personally definitely recommend this game just to try (it's trial is up to good 1/3rd of the game's story after all and has pretty solid ceiling at level 60 where all rotations start taking shape and most classes finally start showing what they are worth), in the end it's up to player to decide, whether they want to play it or not. If they want - great. If not, well, that is ok. I have friends who gave game a shot, didn't liked it and went on their way. I kept playing.
Tho to say FF14 is very story oriented is true but that would dismiss the high quality endgame savage raids. Though I do agree, you don't have to force yourself to play
@@DotAzam True, Savage raids in FF are super-fun. As well as Extreme Trials. My first EX battle against Titan was the time when I finally understood how to tank and how to go into positioning and it only went up from there.
@@OmegaEnvych TBH GW2 has been sooooo good for me (i bounced from ffxiv and eso) after quitting wow. i wish there was a bit more power wise to aim for in the endgame, but gameplay is suuuuuuuper fun. especially world play and fractals ;D
@@OmegaEnvych agreed, from my research, ffxiv, gw2, eso, poe, new world and lost ark are good alternatives to wow. I chose to play ffxiv 2 days ago, and i actually enjoy it, will try poe next after a week. better to try everything out before deciding where to plant your roots.
we are all cultist that trying to tell you something you still yet to understand... and you seems us as villains, trying to destroy us, denying our effort. Yet we still press on.
It's not just FF14 there are sooo many MMOs. GW2, POE, ESO, New World, Lost Arc, etc etc. The concept of the one game for life is strange, gamers should play games for entertainment not pain. I'll play WoW when it's good and stop when it sucks. It's something I learned from FF14.
I'm envious of players who are able to stick to one MMO and be content with it. There's a lot to be said for dedicating yourself to one MMO. I can completely understand people who want to stick with WoW in hopes that it will be good again. I've juggled WoW, Runescape, and FFxiv for about as long as each one has been around, and I've accomplished a lot in each game. Infernal Cape ironman, savage raiding, rank one parses, Gladiator/Duelist etc. etc. But juggling games is going to make you miss out on some aspects of the game no matter how well you balance them. - Some players have been with the same wow/ff raid team ever since they started, and have made lifelong friends. Not something you can do juggling multiple raid teams across multiple mmos. - I didn't have time for Deadman Tournaments or Trailblazer Leagues in OSRS. - I've been able to get gladiator, but not rank one, something you generally have to dedicate extremely hard to. - I've missed raid tiers. - I haven't had time to play every class/job during every expansion. - I've lost my house in FFxiv due to inactivity being super uninvested during content luls, and going hard in another mmo. (Admittedly this one is very avoidable, just log in once a month lol) The list goes on. I'm not knocking having variety either, just saying there's something to be said for both routes. Playing multiple MMOs seriously, and making one MMO your LIFE, are completely different experiences, and I often wonder if I would of had more fun dedicating to only WoW or FFxiv.
Honestly my friends that I made in MMO are all on discord and we hang out all the time. We do stuff outside games like DnD or visit each other when we meet in RL. Plus my FC house/guildies/raid group is always open for me to come back and hang out. As someone who works full-time now I think not being able to participate in all aspects of an MMO is pretty normal. But then I'm pretty casual nowadays and don't feel any pressure to participate in anything I don't have time for or I don't feel like doing. I tend to come back for raids because I love raids and you can never really capture that new raid difficulty but everything else I can go back to do them anytime really, especially with friends who are willing to do them with me.
agreed, I'm actually still stuck in ARR and not in a hurry to leave. The fact that all my WoL and WoH classes are higher than my Combat classes might be the reason, anyhoo, im still new, and i think i might need to actually level my WAR to unlock other areas, ishgard etc.
ARR was one of my worst gaming experiences.Extremely boring ,terrible skills i think i got my aoe at 26 level as a dragoon.But after i endured all that the game changed 100% and its really good.Im glad i didnt quit during arr.Good for you that you enjoyed it
I also noticed the differences in chat for both games too, WoW chat is still very toxic and the players seem so depressed, while the FF streams people are the complete opposite lol. I find myself logging into WoW a lot less lately too, there is just so little to do and it all feels like a chore.
Them talking about how Square/Yoshida's team stole from Cataclysm with an apocalypse dragon was kinda funny, to be honest. I mean, go right ahead and disregard the fact that Bahamut existed in FF lore since before WoW even thought about existing. lol
@@gianni.sacciloto I mean they didn't steal it but I'm pretty positive Yoshi p himself has stated that the calamity with bahamut was inspired by cataclysm.
It's funny because I've never played wow because I don't like dungeons, dragons, old castles, etc. I want pure fantasy and magic, so to see all these weeb comments is amazing. As Blizzard was inspired by Asian Technology. Why do they have to call us weebs? I'm not putting them down for something I don't enjoy lol?
If you plan to play it again someday, you are doing yourself a disservice by passing up this very good window to play now. There has been a rush of new players doing early content with fresh eyes and insights. And if you are a streamer and content creator, there is a huge new audience seeking ffxiv content right now, from guides to streams to new player experiences, Ive seen tons of views on all the videos Ive found. Bandwagons are nice, the bands play good music and everyone has a good time together, might as well stop in and see what everyone is fussing about while there is just enough time to acclimate before Endwalker amazes us all.
I mean, you can skip the story and just go for gameplay if it isn't your cup of tea, just don't Quin it and call the story shit without having ever read it. If you ever feel like actually getting into it, you can just engage the story replay mode, which re-opens all the main quests with 0 rewards. Everyone trying to force you to read the story against your will is just as toxic as the current WoW game design.
Agreed. You can’t comment on a story you didn’t immerse yourself in. Wow fast tracked you and I’m certain many players did not read the quests they were completing. 14 story should not be skipped, it’s so good. This game is just great
That's what I did, skipped all the story and went straight to the raids. The designs lf the raids themselves and the music made go back and pay attention to the story. Especially after doing TEA. I was so curious on the lore of Alexander I had to go back and learn for myself.
You didn't know what ARR meant but you played the game? I guess you were truthful when you said you don't like reading! Couldn't even be bothered to read the game's secondary title. 😆
I feel bad for Guzu, he just can't let himself try it out for real. He says he won't like it even before he tries it, I think his first try was the same but he pushed to level 40 so that people can't say he didn't tried it at least once. Idk, hope he finds fun in wow.
@@ZodaSoda I'm confused You guys say the game starts when you get done making your character so you don't need to rush to endgame to get to the good part like in wow. But here you are telling me that if you only put in like 30 hours you didn't play ff14 wat?
@Fusajiro so it is just like wow and the only part that maters in the end game expect you have to do dungons and raids from bc and stuff while you level to the last one got.
Classic Andy talking about the game play being meh in FF when in classic you have one button classes, and easy mech on bosses. Even TBC is not that hard.
if the "long dialogue, story oriented aspect" of the game is what is turning you off from the game, then feel free to skip through them all. You can watch the cutscenes at anytime using NG+ or the cutscene viewer at your apartment. you can go through all the cutscenes and rewatch them. A game with a good story, is not really a bad thing. Limit Maximum for example, he doesn't care for the lore. He wanted to Raid, so he skipped. Now he is going back and rewatching the cutscenes and learning the lore with his chat. It's good content for him and he gets to enjoy the story at his own phase.
In the EndWalker expansion they are making a new small scale PVP mode. (4v4?) No details yet, they are supposed to mention it in their next presentation sometime before the expansion launches. That might help improve the PVP scene.
One of the biggest and best pvpers came to that game to have fun. And ended up a RPer and outfit contest runner. That game has had 6 years to make the community care about pvp. And... you think that adding a game another game mode to will help...When it's foundation of the game which makes the pvp not likable... The wow players have been forcing you to take copium haven't they?
A lot of people seems to forget it, MMO's are about having fun more than anything else. So try and play everything and try and appreciate every game that gives you that fun
7:49 yeah me too me you can skip dialogue and cutscene but can still catchup later by watching video explaining everything like i do im well aware that it's a story driven game but it still it's my way of playing it without getting tired
Those videos by Lucron are very good. He has a nice energetic style in his videos. And humorous. Using the Black Mage minion as 'himself' was a pretty inspired idea.
just dropping a random fact here; the 2,5 gcd gives 2,5 long animations for a cast - think about doing an execute over 2,5 sec instead of just one slice and boom dmg
I really don't understand why people have so much trouble with the maps. 🤷♂️ Other than the Limsa one, since the city is on two levels it is kind of hard to put those both on one map.
I never had an issue with navigating FFXIV map. I think only WoW players have trouble with it because they dont play many games. If you've played a lot of games, you will find it to be very intuitive.
17:07 ARR stands for A Realm Reborn, which is base game. It's definitely the lowest point in the game in terms of story for most people due to the lack of VA and a significant of arbitrary fetch quests. That being said, the game literally non stop goes up from there, hence why people say "You either quit in ARR or live long enough to become a walking advertisment", because people fall in love with the game around the end of ARR and the start of the first expansion.
Maybe he's under the impression that the free trial is up to level 20 only like wow? or maybe he's just not into FF. well as long as he is not shitting on other games all is fair to me.
@@robertocaballero1009 The thing, how can you decide if the game is for you without even finishing the tutorial? It’s hella slow in the beginning. No one enjoyed that. But like a fine bottle of wine, the longer you wait the better it gets.
@lo pan Compared to 1.0 it’s Heaven. And they optimized the ARR experience for new players wholesale. They fixed it as much as they could. And the rest of the game is really worth it. I never played WoW, but from what people say the latest expansions are worse than ARR by far. Lol
The focus doesn't really circle around FF alone, tbh. There are a lot of games of the same genre outside WoW which deserves to be explored. It's just that, these people have been playing this game for a long time they can't leave it. It's a bit sad, really.
The begining of FFXIV will have a lot of reading. But it's also why everyone says it gets good at or just before Heavensward. That's because they get a bigger budget so more and more and more and more scenes get Voice Acting in it and cuts down on just read. There is still reading but as the journey through the expansions, there is more and more Voice Acting so you can just sit and take in the moments rather then just read. There is a reason why many people say ARR is the main hurdle to FFXIV. With that said, the story does get pretty good after the first half of ARR if you didn't really like it. You get deeper into the lore about Primals, the Crystal Tower and the game starts setting up Heavensward which is when a lot of people start to perk up and get interested in the story. Another tip would be is that if the story does drag for you. Take a break. Go do the Gold Saucer. Do some of the raids. Farm some glamour. Go freaking fishing. Once you refresh yourself. Get back into the MSQ.
I started ff14 around 2013 and I quit right away. I skipped their heavensward expansion. I played stormblood again and quit 2 month in. However, storm blood was really good and it’s the turning point for me. The reason I quit is because I love legion. Shadowbringer stole my soul and I was so hoping that shadowland would be good. Shadowland sucked so bad that now I ff14 full time. Moral of the story, try ff14 again and you might enjoy it now. You can always go back to wow.
all your chatters are so brainwashed man lol. It's obvious they're just sad that it feels like they wasted so many years not going out with friends, not going to school, not getting a girlfriend, not furthering their career, etc and for what? everyone they knew in the game they gave all those things up for is leaving for a game with cat girls with katanas. I'd be salty too I totally understand it and at this point the game is at a point of no return. Endwalker is going to be the best expansion yet and all the biggest streamers are going to be playing the game and the publicity is going to drown WoW if it hasn't already. Sorry remaining WoW players move on with your lives stop showing brand loyalty just so it doesn't feel like it was all for nothing.
Naguura did a story skip too. I recommend to watch her ffxiv experience vid. She didnt skip because she doesnt like to read but cause she joined a project and wanted to be able to do endgame for it. You dont need to go through the story although it is a very good story especially heavensward and shadowbringers. But u can always skip if u dont like that. And the game will be still fun.
also if you dont wanna buy a boost, you can speedrun the story and maybe reach shadowbringers in like 5-10 days depending on how much you play or juggle it with wow.
Yeah Blizzard only cares about current expansion endgame. Why do you think the current leveling experience has you skip every expansion except the last one? And that's probably just because of story continuity.
I think if you aren’t a story oriented player the first 40-50 levels are kind of weak (depending on how you break it up.) I rushed through ARR while doing side stuff and had a lot of fun. After that all the jobs start to get a lot more compelling to play, and it just gets better and better after that. I think there’s a fun game in FF for Guzu to enjoy potentially. But like with Asmon, there’s so much baggage in the community for a WoW player to even try it. Besides that, if Guzu is genuinely happy it doesn’t hurt him to keep playing wow anyways.
I see you're on a RP server. I saw a streamer that was big on WoW RP, and tried Final Fantasy 14. She enjoyed the game and story but since she enjoyed having Alt characters in WoW so they can all have their own backstories. She found 14's relative Alt unfriendliness to be a downside. Because if you wanted to level up a different character it takes much longer than WoW. Not to mention many things, like the majority of mounts (even store ones) are not account wide. Mainly because they pretty much expect you to do everything on one character. Since you can do everything on one character. I don't do RP myself so I found her point of view on some things to be something I would have never thought of.
I have played WoW on and off since launch. I've been in big guilds raiding top tier stuff. And I've been in small guilds just playing around. FFXIV has killed WoW for me. The game just has so much to do that it's literally overwhelming to me. WoW is honestly boring to me. You play the new expansion. Get to the point of daily's. Do the few dungeons. Rinse, repeat. FFXIV has so many dungeons it's almost hard to do the same one twice. Add in all the different jobs. Crafting and gathering jobs. Duties. PvP. And a bunch of other stuff. It's just a lot. Plus the game is genuinely fun. The player base is just nice where WoW is toxic as fuck. I wish I got into FFXIV way earlier than I did.
Literally every wow player talking about this says they suck at reading or have no attention span. Havnt seen a single one who didnt say that at some point
WoW used to take things from other games and do it better. Now it feels they take things from other games and do it worse. I dont know how this happened
Don't worry, you're not that anti-social. Most people before coming here don't want to talk with others either. It's just that people often greet each others before dungeon, eventually you will start talking with a few and it goes on from there.
WoW has idiocy all over it. It has burnt me out for the 10 years I've been playing it then full quit. Been in FFXIV and having a better time, even found my girlfriend who I'm living with now. On the subject of New World and growing up to see trends within the gaming industry, I knew New World would fail. Recent example is its deflation crisis. If more people can see the downright desperate moves that Blizzard is doing, everyone should quit WoW, and hopefully force a restart on the whole franchise. I "HAD" loved WoW, it just needs to die and be restarted again, not continue. WoW Classic doesn't count towards that.
I think for Guzu boosting to 80 at endwalker release might be better for him. If he wants to try out end game and not go trough the story. You can always go trough the story again with new game+ later on.
The key to enjoy ff14 is to not force yourself, and be in the right vibe at the moment. I started a few years ago, but did try it back when it was a 14 days trial, tried for 5 min and uninstalled it, i wasnt ready for it, i was in an action rpg vibe at that moment, so classic mmo style turned me off. Now ff14 is one of my favorite game
The music really really really gets to you. Ffxiv has its hooks and me and I don’t want them to let go. It’s not for everyone so no worries if you don’t try it or like it.
you dont actually have to go through the story if you want.... trust me a lot of people also play this game bcoz of raids and dungeons and it is fun as well.
You get used to WoW’s UI but XIV’s is so customizable off the bat you can very easily just turn it into WoW’s. I love how customizable it is without the need for any addons. Plus I was blown away the game has addons to improve the graphics. I thought XIV’s graphics looked pretty janky but now with a few mods it looks incredible. I just hate how the story drags, going back to the same NPC back and forth and back and forth like 200 times feels bad. Aside from that the game is fantastic.
Question : How can someone think of themselves as smart in general .....but cant get through a video games reading..... the two things are antithetical to each other ( the excuses of attention span is a non-excuse because if you can repeat grind for 12 hours there is 0 reason you cant read a conversation for two mins )
A lot of people will say you *have* to run the story because it's a STORY game or an RPG first MMO second. But it's a massive game with a ton to do. Tons of people skip the story. Some people only play for the social aspects/RP, or raiding and end game. You can power level and skip all the dialogue story in the free trial and get a group of friends to do Coil (ARR end game raid) and Alexander (HW end game raid). It would give you an idea about the raiding. But honestly, a lot of people go into the game thinking they just want to do one thing, and find that they enjoy a lot more. Anyway, play if you want, and ignore the super overbearing fans who try to tell you how to play and what to like.
Why is it that so many people seem to think you have to pick one or the other? You don't have to stop playing WOW in order to play XIV. XIV has a long ass trial, too, so you don't even have to sub to the game. It's so easy to just give it a go, without stressing yourself out with levelling speed or endgame or whatever, and just treat it as "the other game I play when I want something else". And if you then like it, you can still sub. Tribalism is not good for the players, it's only good for corporate.
Honestly, first time viewer here, but you're a good friend and that is very respectable, just the fact that you're happy for your friend is a rare quality nowadays. I can imagine watching the video might have been fun but also a bit sad, but honestly, I'd say give it a try if you want to, the game has gotten a lot better after they revamped the base game. I'm not going to say it's groundbreaking, but it has less filler to sift through and that might benefit you if you feel like there is a lot of text. Regardless of that, I'd say if you are willing to try it out I would say try not to compare it to WoW because as far as I see they are 2 different types of games. I don't care if people will say copium or stuff, it doesn't matter, the only thing that should matter is having fun, so if you don't enjoy it, okay then you don't, it's that simple ^^
I'm envious of players who are able to stick to one MMO and be content with it. There's a lot to be said for dedicating yourself to one MMO. I can completely understand people who want to stick with WoW in hopes that it will be good again. I've juggled WoW, Runescape, and FFxiv for about as long as each one has been around, and I've accomplished a lot in each game. Infernal Cape ironman, savage raiding, rank one parses, Gladiator/Duelist etc. etc. But juggling games is going to make you miss out on some aspects of the game no matter how well you balance them. - Some players have been with the same wow/ff raid team ever since they started, and have made lifelong friends. Not something you can do juggling multiple raid teams across multiple mmos. - I didn't have time for Deadman Tournaments or Trailblazer Leagues in OSRS. - I've been able to get gladiator, but not rank one, something you generally have to dedicate extremely hard to. - I've missed raid tiers. - I haven't had time to play every class/job during every expansion. - I've lost my house in FFxiv due to inactivity being super uninvested during content luls, and going hard in another mmo. (Admittedly this one is very avoidable, just log in once a month lol) The list goes on. I'm not knocking having variety either, just saying there's something to be said for both routes. Playing multiple MMOs seriously, and making one MMO your LIFE, are completely different experiences, and I often wonder if I would of had more fun dedicating to only WoW or FFxiv.
@@SparkShadow212 its copium, like every other moron still playing wow atm. Classic is dead and fresh will flop, tbcc is dying and retail been shit since pre wod with exeption of legion.
@@Evilminiature It's honestly kinda sad to see a juggernaut of a game turn out this way. From what I've heard, it was pretty good, especially in Wrath of the Lich King. I've admittedly only played BFA, and that was a snorefest.
@@SparkShadow212 Yeah, i played since release up trough cata skiped panda, got back in WoD and played legion and 4 months BFA and 1 month SL. The game has not been good GOOD in 10+ years. Wich is sad. They need to kill off the game. They have no more lore, no more experienced devs, no heart and soul. All metrics and profit.
"I can stop playing wow whenever I want" - words of a true addict
Truth.
This should be at the top
So even though he's having fun and it's not harming him in anyway to play the game. He should stop and be a follower. I said those same words back in 2015 to a friend of mine who wanted try ff14 with me 6 years ago I put 70 hours into trying to like that game and hated every moment of it. And don't say I just don't like new or eastern mmorpgs because I played blade and souls when that to US years ago and loved it. I ended up wow a month after quiting ff14 and play other games. I just came back to wow for classic and tbc and I have been having fun ever since. Even though all my friends quit a long time ago.
@@naquan59 soooo, no one else in the thread has even mentioned FFXIV...
Heroine addicts enjoy themselves too. Still doesn't mean they should be doing it every day...
@@Lordoftheapes79 1. I said it's not harming himself or anybody else around him. 2. He doesn't play wow everyday 3. we are talking about ff14 because that is what in the title and what started this whole thing to begin with. 4. I seen at least 4 people in the comments of this video alone talking about how they ff14 everyday now so are you telling me it's ok to be addicted to ff14 but not wow which are both mmorpgs.
It may not look like it, but this is the first step to get Guzu out of the wow copium and addicted to ff
He doesnt even need to get out of WoW. He can give FF a try for a bit and if he doesnt like it just play something else.
@@sagen06 he said hes played ff tho and didnt like it
@@Thalaranthey He said he played FF long time ago. Which could mean when FF first came out. When it was in bad state.
It really doesn't, because his last sentences were the most copium filled words I have heard in a while.
And if someone gets forced so hard, they will seek for problems and stop before they even see what the game is all about.
@@Blubbii88 I can stop wow anytime I want is an addict line.
Zepla, Asmon, Rich, Savix, Echo Team, huge ETC and pretty much EVERY other big WoW streamer moves to FFXIV.
They all agree it was the best thing they ever did, when they thought the game wasn't for them.
Guzu: "Nah man I'm good".
Too much reading, apparently.
don't forget belular luls
@@williamlesmana3046 bellular is literally blazing through the game since he hit heavensward and loving it, I’m so happy for him, especially since he’s such a big lore guy. Oh and pyromancer too
"I tried ff14, and i have level quite a bit" This sentence show exactly you did not play enough FF14 to give an convincing opinion.
In ff14 no one care about your level. People only cares about where is your MSQ progress is, what you think of the story, and have you tried the side content beside fighting.
Facts you can lvl around the story but why play a game with voice acting cutscenes and dialogue and not have interest in the story. If your skipping the story you’re missing large parts of the game. period
@@thefanmark5165 i mean I a major fan of ffxiv i skipped the story and don't regret it at all. I play games for a challenge and for social experiences with people who enjoy the same hobby as me. I really don't think you have to have played through the story or know any of the charecter well to give a good opinion on the game. I can break down most of the current tier of raiding yall and I feel like that in some ways makes my opinion valid. If I started talking smack on the story then yeah yall may have a point, but I dont think its such a big deal to avoid it honestly.
Are you guys homosexual?
@@empatheticfrog2052 that’s fine if you genuinely just don’t like story, which I doubt since I feel everybody watches movies or tv, but I feel like games like WoW have trained people to not give a fuck about anything other than endgame and if they gave the story a shot with an open mind they would have their minds blown by how enjoyable a story can be
Ill toss this out, since you seem a bit hesitant and not completely sold: You don't have to force yourself to play.
FF14 is a very story-oriented game, and if the amount of dialogue and text that comes with it doesn't interest you, or actively turns you away, then you are free to not play.
If the art looks uninteresting, or just not your style, then you don't have to pretend you like it.
If you don't want to play it because you may worry that it would cause a crapstorm for you from either the WoW or FF communities, then by all means, do as you will.
I think the important thing to take away from this exodus event is twofold:
1. WoW is deficient in certain things players want, and abundant in things they do not. Many people are leaving simply looking for a breath of fresh air, and some find that FF14 serves them much more of what they want, with extra. Some do go even further and even more games in the MMO sphere to enjoy.
2. As Yoshi P. himself said during the media tour (directly after the "do these developers even play their own game" comment), is that it is best for a person to play more than one game. To spread out the variety of your media diet is to enrich your pallet a little bit. It helps you evolve your tastes, and keeps you from becoming emotionally stale due to a lack of other things to consume.
Even if FF14 isn't your cup of tea, you are still free to roam Azaroth, gank, tank, and rank to your heart's content, and say that you have what you want. And if not, then why not be the WoW refugee to Elder Scrolls Online instead. They'll never see it coming XD
Guild Wars 2 is also pretty good game from what I've heard. There is enough of good MMOs, not just FFXIV.
Also, while it's not necessary, one would never know and it's better check. For me the biggest pull of XIV was the fact that it is a Final Fantasy game, but many people joined, not knowing FF meta and all the stuff we long-time fans expected from the series.
While I personally definitely recommend this game just to try (it's trial is up to good 1/3rd of the game's story after all and has pretty solid ceiling at level 60 where all rotations start taking shape and most classes finally start showing what they are worth), in the end it's up to player to decide, whether they want to play it or not. If they want - great. If not, well, that is ok. I have friends who gave game a shot, didn't liked it and went on their way. I kept playing.
Tho to say FF14 is very story oriented is true but that would dismiss the high quality endgame savage raids. Though I do agree, you don't have to force yourself to play
@@DotAzam True, Savage raids in FF are super-fun. As well as Extreme Trials. My first EX battle against Titan was the time when I finally understood how to tank and how to go into positioning and it only went up from there.
@@OmegaEnvych TBH GW2 has been sooooo good for me (i bounced from ffxiv and eso) after quitting wow. i wish there was a bit more power wise to aim for in the endgame, but gameplay is suuuuuuuper fun. especially world play and fractals ;D
@@OmegaEnvych agreed, from my research, ffxiv, gw2, eso, poe, new world and lost ark are good alternatives to wow. I chose to play ffxiv 2 days ago, and i actually enjoy it, will try poe next after a week. better to try everything out before deciding where to plant your roots.
poor Guzu, your soul can still be saved from the claws of blizzard Ç_Ç
Cult xd
@@foxshoot3138 You too my friend can see the light at the end of the realm reborn 🙏
we are all cultist that trying to tell you something you still yet to understand...
and you seems us as villains, trying to destroy us, denying our effort.
Yet we still press on.
@@Eilanzer na i am fine with my evil realm reborn( aka pso2 ngs xd)
@@KoNekoNoUta and thas what the cultist always say >:U
I cackled at the last 30 seconds as he said the exact same thing that a lot of other streamers said right before they got hooked on it.
Hey! You guys remember that one time when Blizzard put something cool in the game and it turned out it was by mistake?
It's not just FF14 there are sooo many MMOs. GW2, POE, ESO, New World, Lost Arc, etc etc. The concept of the one game for life is strange, gamers should play games for entertainment not pain. I'll play WoW when it's good and stop when it sucks. It's something I learned from FF14.
good man. learned to not be tied down to WoW.
I'm envious of players who are able to stick to one MMO and be content with it. There's a lot to be said for dedicating yourself to one MMO. I can completely understand people who want to stick with WoW in hopes that it will be good again. I've juggled WoW, Runescape, and FFxiv for about as long as each one has been around, and I've accomplished a lot in each game. Infernal Cape ironman, savage raiding, rank one parses, Gladiator/Duelist etc. etc.
But juggling games is going to make you miss out on some aspects of the game no matter how well you balance them.
- Some players have been with the same wow/ff raid team ever since they started, and have made lifelong friends. Not something you can do juggling multiple raid teams across multiple mmos.
- I didn't have time for Deadman Tournaments or Trailblazer Leagues in OSRS.
- I've been able to get gladiator, but not rank one, something you generally have to dedicate extremely hard to.
- I've missed raid tiers.
- I haven't had time to play every class/job during every expansion.
- I've lost my house in FFxiv due to inactivity being super uninvested during content luls, and going hard in another mmo. (Admittedly this one is very avoidable, just log in once a month lol)
The list goes on. I'm not knocking having variety either, just saying there's something to be said for both routes. Playing multiple MMOs seriously, and making one MMO your LIFE, are completely different experiences, and I often wonder if I would of had more fun dedicating to only WoW or FFxiv.
Honestly my friends that I made in MMO are all on discord and we hang out all the time. We do stuff outside games like DnD or visit each other when we meet in RL. Plus my FC house/guildies/raid group is always open for me to come back and hang out. As someone who works full-time now I think not being able to participate in all aspects of an MMO is pretty normal. But then I'm pretty casual nowadays and don't feel any pressure to participate in anything I don't have time for or I don't feel like doing. I tend to come back for raids because I love raids and you can never really capture that new raid difficulty but everything else I can go back to do them anytime really, especially with friends who are willing to do them with me.
I enjoyed the hell out of ARR and never felt like i needed to rush through. It's a game where you can run at your own pace and enjoy the journey.
agreed, I'm actually still stuck in ARR and not in a hurry to leave. The fact that all my WoL and WoH classes are higher than my Combat classes might be the reason, anyhoo, im still new, and i think i might need to actually level my WAR to unlock other areas, ishgard etc.
I have nearly 18 days (playtime) and only just at the start of Stormblood. So much cool extra stuff to do
ARR was one of my worst gaming experiences.Extremely boring ,terrible skills i think i got my aoe at 26 level as a dragoon.But after i endured all that the game changed 100% and its really good.Im glad i didnt quit during arr.Good for you that you enjoyed it
literally what RPG doesn't have reading? such a weird complaint.
The people who play Wow don't even read the quests lol.
I also noticed the differences in chat for both games too, WoW chat
is still very toxic and the players seem so depressed, while the FF streams
people are the complete opposite lol.
I find myself logging into WoW a lot less lately too, there is just so little to do and it all feels like a chore.
Them talking about how Square/Yoshida's team stole from Cataclysm with an apocalypse dragon was kinda funny, to be honest. I mean, go right ahead and disregard the fact that Bahamut existed in FF lore since before WoW even thought about existing. lol
@@gianni.sacciloto I mean they didn't steal it but I'm pretty positive Yoshi p himself has stated that the calamity with bahamut was inspired by cataclysm.
It's funny because I've never played wow because I don't like dungeons, dragons, old castles, etc. I want pure fantasy and magic, so to see all these weeb comments is amazing. As Blizzard was inspired by Asian Technology.
Why do they have to call us weebs? I'm not putting them down for something I don't enjoy lol?
Go play with your friend on FFXIV!!! Go enjoy it with Guzu!
If you plan to play it again someday, you are doing yourself a disservice by passing up this very good window to play now. There has been a rush of new players doing early content with fresh eyes and insights. And if you are a streamer and content creator, there is a huge new audience seeking ffxiv content right now, from guides to streams to new player experiences, Ive seen tons of views on all the videos Ive found.
Bandwagons are nice, the bands play good music and everyone has a good time together, might as well stop in and see what everyone is fussing about while there is just enough time to acclimate before Endwalker amazes us all.
"gameplay is mundayn" famous last words before the switch
AND BTW... ARR is "A Realm Reborn" ... it's the story you play from lvl 1-50.
So FFXIV: ARR>Heavensward>Stormblood>Shadowbringer>Endwalker.
I mean, you can skip the story and just go for gameplay if it isn't your cup of tea, just don't Quin it and call the story shit without having ever read it.
If you ever feel like actually getting into it, you can just engage the story replay mode, which re-opens all the main quests with 0 rewards.
Everyone trying to force you to read the story against your will is just as toxic as the current WoW game design.
Agreed. You can’t comment on a story you didn’t immerse yourself in. Wow fast tracked you and I’m certain many players did not read the quests they were completing. 14 story should not be skipped, it’s so good. This game is just great
That's what I did, skipped all the story and went straight to the raids. The designs lf the raids themselves and the music made go back and pay attention to the story. Especially after doing TEA. I was so curious on the lore of Alexander I had to go back and learn for myself.
A moment of silence for guzu……:”(
" I can quit playing wow whenever I want" Guzu
"weeb shit" lol I see that so much and just have to laugh because they don't have a clue. Gotta love these chats hah
It's japanese so its automatically weeb for them i suppose
You didn't know what ARR meant but you played the game? I guess you were truthful when you said you don't like reading! Couldn't even be bothered to read the game's secondary title. 😆
"I have a very short attention span when it comes to this kind of thing." This thing being...reading. smh
I feel bad for Guzu, he just can't let himself try it out for real. He says he won't like it even before he tries it, I think his first try was the same but he pushed to level 40 so that people can't say he didn't tried it at least once. Idk, hope he finds fun in wow.
@@ZodaSoda I'm confused You guys say the game starts when you get done making your character so you don't need to rush to endgame to get to the good part like in wow. But here you are telling me that if you only put in like 30 hours you didn't play ff14 wat?
@Fusajiro so it is just like wow and the only part that maters in the end game expect you have to do dungons and raids from bc and stuff while you level to the last one got.
Classic Andy talking about the game play being meh in FF when in classic you have one button classes, and easy mech on bosses. Even TBC is not that hard.
if the "long dialogue, story oriented aspect" of the game is what is turning you off from the game, then feel free to skip through them all. You can watch the cutscenes at anytime using NG+ or the cutscene viewer at your apartment. you can go through all the cutscenes and rewatch them. A game with a good story, is not really a bad thing. Limit Maximum for example, he doesn't care for the lore. He wanted to Raid, so he skipped. Now he is going back and rewatching the cutscenes and learning the lore with his chat. It's good content for him and he gets to enjoy the story at his own phase.
In the EndWalker expansion they are making a new small scale PVP mode. (4v4?) No details yet, they are supposed to mention it in their next presentation sometime before the expansion launches. That might help improve the PVP scene.
One of the biggest and best pvpers came to that game to have fun. And ended up a RPer and outfit contest runner. That game has had 6 years to make the community care about pvp. And... you think that adding a game another game mode to will help...When it's foundation of the game which makes the pvp not likable... The wow players have been forcing you to take copium haven't they?
And the announcement video's... tomorrow 7 pm pst
They have Feast already so small scale pvp is already there same as WoW. Wow had arenas XIV has Feast
At least you don't have to buy $50 books to understand the lore of FFXIV. Everything is accessible in game.
I know it's funny. He goes from hardcore PVP to RP. And Preach seems to have gone from hardcore raider to RP. 😆
He also got double legend so it's not like he's just an RP player now, just realized that's fun too
@@prisoner817 But he doesn't pvp anymore any all.
A lot of people seems to forget it, MMO's are about having fun more than anything else. So try and play everything and try and appreciate every game that gives you that fun
7:49 yeah me too me you can skip dialogue and cutscene but can still catchup later by watching video explaining everything like i do im well aware that it's a story driven game but it still it's my way of playing it without getting tired
Complaining about UI changes is akin to Apple users refusing to switch to android.
Those videos by Lucron are very good. He has a nice energetic style in his videos. And humorous. Using the Black Mage minion as 'himself' was a pretty inspired idea.
A moment of silence guys, he is in a better place
So, can you link where you reacted to the A Realm reborn CS? I'm interested in seeing and hearing your impressions of it.
Come Guzu..:), ffxiv community waiting for you
Savix isn't on COPIUM anymore but Guzu is :D
just dropping a random fact here; the 2,5 gcd gives 2,5 long animations for a cast - think about doing an execute over 2,5 sec instead of just one slice and boom dmg
Well, you can always try out the free trial, you can play for free up to level 60.
Get this man into deep dungeon and work for the “Necromancer” title. Id love to see him working for it .
There wouldnt happen to be link to a "Guzu reacts to ARR trailer" would there?
Good for Savix moved on from something that been letting him down.
It's great that your so understanding, and mayhap you'll find another MMO to give your time to when you've finished your WoW journey.
17:08 to answer what ARR is. It is the name of 2.0 “A Realm Reborn” it is FFXIV REMADE!
I really don't understand why people have so much trouble with the maps. 🤷♂️ Other than the Limsa one, since the city is on two levels it is kind of hard to put those both on one map.
I never had an issue with navigating FFXIV map.
I think only WoW players have trouble with it because they dont play many games. If you've played a lot of games, you will find it to be very intuitive.
17:07 ARR stands for A Realm Reborn, which is base game. It's definitely the lowest point in the game in terms of story for most people due to the lack of VA and a significant of arbitrary fetch quests.
That being said, the game literally non stop goes up from there, hence why people say "You either quit in ARR or live long enough to become a walking advertisment", because people fall in love with the game around the end of ARR and the start of the first expansion.
Leveled a little bit? How much is that? You do know that the first 50 levels in FF14 is just a tutorial compared to everything that comes after?
Maybe he's under the impression that the free trial is up to level 20 only like wow? or maybe he's just not into FF. well as long as he is not shitting on other games all is fair to me.
No joke I've met someone who thought lvling to 40 was enough.
He hasn't even seen his first credit scene.
@@robertocaballero1009 The thing, how can you decide if the game is for you without even finishing the tutorial?
It’s hella slow in the beginning. No one enjoyed that. But like a fine bottle of wine, the longer you wait the better it gets.
@lo pan Compared to 1.0 it’s Heaven. And they optimized the ARR experience for new players wholesale. They fixed it as much as they could. And the rest of the game is really worth it.
I never played WoW, but from what people say the latest expansions are worse than ARR by far. Lol
@lo pan Well, to each his own, I’d love to revisit ARR after it’s been optimized. And I think I’ll do that once I finish the latest expansion.
Didn't include reaction to ARR cinematic.. Madge
Yes wow is just not that good anymore. XIV is leaps and bounds better.
Yeah you may only get one patch this year in Retail WoW but at least you can spend $25 and go buy a giant cat mount! 🐈
Wow turning to cats like an old spinster.
loved the reaction if u end up posting anymore content reaction ffxiv stuff or playing ffxiv might sub. wish ya well man.
I've heard more compelling excuses come from people in physically/mentally abusive relationships.
The focus doesn't really circle around FF alone, tbh. There are a lot of games of the same genre outside WoW which deserves to be explored. It's just that, these people have been playing this game for a long time they can't leave it. It's a bit sad, really.
theres also a ring that shows in wow, the big black diamond ring or whatever
Guzu, your reasoning for not playing it is the same as most WoW refugees in FFXIV. I highly recommend trying it again at some point
The begining of FFXIV will have a lot of reading. But it's also why everyone says it gets good at or just before Heavensward. That's because they get a bigger budget so more and more and more and more scenes get Voice Acting in it and cuts down on just read. There is still reading but as the journey through the expansions, there is more and more Voice Acting so you can just sit and take in the moments rather then just read. There is a reason why many people say ARR is the main hurdle to FFXIV. With that said, the story does get pretty good after the first half of ARR if you didn't really like it. You get deeper into the lore about Primals, the Crystal Tower and the game starts setting up Heavensward which is when a lot of people start to perk up and get interested in the story.
Another tip would be is that if the story does drag for you. Take a break. Go do the Gold Saucer. Do some of the raids. Farm some glamour. Go freaking fishing. Once you refresh yourself. Get back into the MSQ.
I started ff14 around 2013 and I quit right away. I skipped their heavensward expansion. I played stormblood again and quit 2 month in. However, storm blood was really good and it’s the turning point for me. The reason I quit is because I love legion. Shadowbringer stole my soul and I was so hoping that shadowland would be good. Shadowland sucked so bad that now I ff14 full time. Moral of the story, try ff14 again and you might enjoy it now. You can always go back to wow.
funfact, Bahamut, the dragon from the Trailer, is actually waaayyyy bigger than Deathwing ^^
Are you sure? He’s big yea. But we rode on deathwings back with little issues. Now midgardsomr is bigger than both.
@@thefanmark5165 look it up, he's like 20× bigger.
Wheres the reaction to the arr trailer????
that Monkey D Luffy tho at 23:06. hilarious
all your chatters are so brainwashed man lol. It's obvious they're just sad that it feels like they wasted so many years not going out with friends, not going to school, not getting a girlfriend, not furthering their career, etc and for what? everyone they knew in the game they gave all those things up for is leaving for a game with cat girls with katanas. I'd be salty too I totally understand it and at this point the game is at a point of no return. Endwalker is going to be the best expansion yet and all the biggest streamers are going to be playing the game and the publicity is going to drown WoW if it hasn't already. Sorry remaining WoW players move on with your lives stop showing brand loyalty just so it doesn't feel like it was all for nothing.
The _basic_ WoW interface and 14's aren't really that different. Now if you are a heavy WoW UI add-on user... Then yes they are.
Naguura did a story skip too. I recommend to watch her ffxiv experience vid. She didnt skip because she doesnt like to read but cause she joined a project and wanted to be able to do endgame for it. You dont need to go through the story although it is a very good story especially heavensward and shadowbringers. But u can always skip if u dont like that. And the game will be still fun.
Well Gazu. We'll see you in Endwalker.
Month from now, Guzu is making a video. 20 years WoW player thought of FF:)
I met the man who had the necklace ingame. It was an epic encounter
also if you dont wanna buy a boost, you can speedrun the story and maybe reach shadowbringers in like 5-10 days depending on how much you play or juggle it with wow.
Yeah Blizzard only cares about current expansion endgame. Why do you think the current leveling experience has you skip every expansion except the last one? And that's probably just because of story continuity.
I think if you aren’t a story oriented player the first 40-50 levels are kind of weak (depending on how you break it up.) I rushed through ARR while doing side stuff and had a lot of fun. After that all the jobs start to get a lot more compelling to play, and it just gets better and better after that.
I think there’s a fun game in FF for Guzu to enjoy potentially. But like with Asmon, there’s so much baggage in the community for a WoW player to even try it. Besides that, if Guzu is genuinely happy it doesn’t hurt him to keep playing wow anyways.
"I can quit abusing women whenever I want." - Blizzard Payer Rep.
If you ever decide to try FFXIV again, the community will welcome you with open arms and enjoy the journey.
I am confused, you say you have played FFXIV but then say you have never seen the trailer which literally plays upon creating a new character
It isn’t one or the other, I promise! Try out FFXIV alongside WOW. Yoshi P himself says there’s no need to play only his game.
I see you're on a RP server. I saw a streamer that was big on WoW RP, and tried Final Fantasy 14. She enjoyed the game and story but since she enjoyed having Alt characters in WoW so they can all have their own backstories. She found 14's relative Alt unfriendliness to be a downside. Because if you wanted to level up a different character it takes much longer than WoW. Not to mention many things, like the majority of mounts (even store ones) are not account wide. Mainly because they pretty much expect you to do everything on one character. Since you can do everything on one character. I don't do RP myself so I found her point of view on some things to be something I would have never thought of.
It’s kinda like deathwing. But way bigger than deathwing.
"Because it's new - it's a New World"
Instant like
I have played WoW on and off since launch. I've been in big guilds raiding top tier stuff. And I've been in small guilds just playing around. FFXIV has killed WoW for me. The game just has so much to do that it's literally overwhelming to me. WoW is honestly boring to me. You play the new expansion. Get to the point of daily's. Do the few dungeons. Rinse, repeat. FFXIV has so many dungeons it's almost hard to do the same one twice. Add in all the different jobs. Crafting and gathering jobs. Duties. PvP. And a bunch of other stuff. It's just a lot. Plus the game is genuinely fun. The player base is just nice where WoW is toxic as fuck. I wish I got into FFXIV way earlier than I did.
Literally every wow player talking about this says they suck at reading or have no attention span. Havnt seen a single one who didnt say that at some point
WoW used to take things from other games and do it better. Now it feels they take things from other games and do it worse. I dont know how this happened
Don't worry, you're not that anti-social. Most people before coming here don't want to talk with others either. It's just that people often greet each others before dungeon, eventually you will start talking with a few and it goes on from there.
Yeah, for the most part you're welcome to have as little or as much conversation as you want.
yes yes, ff 99.9% of the time just feels so chill in everything you can chat to people in no time
I can tell you don’t play the game if you think the Golden Saucer is full of cat girls lol
Save yourself guzu, it's never too late.
You should give ffxiv a fair try at least. If you don't like it, no hate. I think you'd fit right in though Guzu. Hopefully we see you soon.
People in his chat are saying ita a weeb shit game but a weeb shit game killed WoW so I guess they are on copium. WoW fanboys
WoW has idiocy all over it. It has burnt me out for the 10 years I've been playing it then full quit. Been in FFXIV and having a better time, even found my girlfriend who I'm living with now. On the subject of New World and growing up to see trends within the gaming industry, I knew New World would fail. Recent example is its deflation crisis. If more people can see the downright desperate moves that Blizzard is doing, everyone should quit WoW, and hopefully force a restart on the whole franchise. I "HAD" loved WoW, it just needs to die and be restarted again, not continue. WoW Classic doesn't count towards that.
"I highly doubt I will like it..." famous last words 😆
I think for Guzu boosting to 80 at endwalker release might be better for him. If he wants to try out end game and not go trough the story. You can always go trough the story again with new game+ later on.
The key to enjoy ff14 is to not force yourself, and be in the right vibe at the moment. I started a few years ago, but did try it back when it was a 14 days trial, tried for 5 min and uninstalled it, i wasnt ready for it, i was in an action rpg vibe at that moment, so classic mmo style turned me off. Now ff14 is one of my favorite game
The music really really really gets to you. Ffxiv has its hooks and me and I don’t want them to let go. It’s not for everyone so no worries if you don’t try it or like it.
you dont actually have to go through the story if you want....
trust me a lot of people also play this game bcoz of raids and dungeons and it is fun as well.
Do not underestimate the power of catgirls! 🤣
You get used to WoW’s UI but XIV’s is so customizable off the bat you can very easily just turn it into WoW’s. I love how customizable it is without the need for any addons. Plus I was blown away the game has addons to improve the graphics. I thought XIV’s graphics looked pretty janky but now with a few mods it looks incredible.
I just hate how the story drags, going back to the same NPC back and forth and back and forth like 200 times feels bad. Aside from that the game is fantastic.
Should have released a clip of you watching the trailer cuz.
Question : How can someone think of themselves as smart in general .....but cant get through a video games reading..... the two things are antithetical to each other ( the excuses of attention span is a non-excuse because if you can repeat grind for 12 hours there is 0 reason you cant read a conversation for two mins )
A lot of people will say you *have* to run the story because it's a STORY game or an RPG first MMO second. But it's a massive game with a ton to do. Tons of people skip the story. Some people only play for the social aspects/RP, or raiding and end game. You can power level and skip all the dialogue story in the free trial and get a group of friends to do Coil (ARR end game raid) and Alexander (HW end game raid). It would give you an idea about the raiding. But honestly, a lot of people go into the game thinking they just want to do one thing, and find that they enjoy a lot more. Anyway, play if you want, and ignore the super overbearing fans who try to tell you how to play and what to like.
Why is it that so many people seem to think you have to pick one or the other? You don't have to stop playing WOW in order to play XIV. XIV has a long ass trial, too, so you don't even have to sub to the game. It's so easy to just give it a go, without stressing yourself out with levelling speed or endgame or whatever, and just treat it as "the other game I play when I want something else". And if you then like it, you can still sub. Tribalism is not good for the players, it's only good for corporate.
Go guzu go guzu go, as as streamer youre gonna have a good time dood ♥️
WoW is a gateway drug to ff14
For New World, Amazon has confirmed they will fund the game (even if it loses money) for 10 years.
Honestly, first time viewer here, but you're a good friend and that is very respectable, just the fact that you're happy for your friend is a rare quality nowadays. I can imagine watching the video might have been fun but also a bit sad, but honestly, I'd say give it a try if you want to, the game has gotten a lot better after they revamped the base game.
I'm not going to say it's groundbreaking, but it has less filler to sift through and that might benefit you if you feel like there is a lot of text.
Regardless of that, I'd say if you are willing to try it out I would say try not to compare it to WoW because as far as I see they are 2 different types of games.
I don't care if people will say copium or stuff, it doesn't matter, the only thing that should matter is having fun, so if you don't enjoy it, okay then you don't, it's that simple ^^
I'm envious of players who are able to stick to one MMO and be content with it. There's a lot to be said for dedicating yourself to one MMO. I can completely understand people who want to stick with WoW in hopes that it will be good again. I've juggled WoW, Runescape, and FFxiv for about as long as each one has been around, and I've accomplished a lot in each game. Infernal Cape ironman, savage raiding, rank one parses, Gladiator/Duelist etc. etc.
But juggling games is going to make you miss out on some aspects of the game no matter how well you balance them.
- Some players have been with the same wow/ff raid team ever since they started, and have made lifelong friends. Not something you can do juggling multiple raid teams across multiple mmos.
- I didn't have time for Deadman Tournaments or Trailblazer Leagues in OSRS.
- I've been able to get gladiator, but not rank one, something you generally have to dedicate extremely hard to.
- I've missed raid tiers.
- I haven't had time to play every class/job during every expansion.
- I've lost my house in FFxiv due to inactivity being super uninvested during content luls, and going hard in another mmo. (Admittedly this one is very avoidable, just log in once a month lol)
The list goes on. I'm not knocking having variety either, just saying there's something to be said for both routes. Playing multiple MMOs seriously, and making one MMO your LIFE, are completely different experiences, and I often wonder if I would of had more fun dedicating to only WoW or FFxiv.
Don't worry, we can still save him, it is our way
Save him from what, exactly? He seems pretty happy.
@@SparkShadow212 its copium, like every other moron still playing wow atm. Classic is dead and fresh will flop, tbcc is dying and retail been shit since pre wod with exeption of legion.
@@Evilminiature It's honestly kinda sad to see a juggernaut of a game turn out this way. From what I've heard, it was pretty good, especially in Wrath of the Lich King. I've admittedly only played BFA, and that was a snorefest.
@@SparkShadow212 Yeah, i played since release up trough cata skiped panda, got back in WoD and played legion and 4 months BFA and 1 month SL. The game has not been good GOOD in 10+ years. Wich is sad. They need to kill off the game. They have no more lore, no more experienced devs, no heart and soul. All metrics and profit.