White Notley - Least Used Station In Essex
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- it's time to head into ... semi-deepish Essex, onto the Braintree branch where you'll find the least used station in Essex, hello White Notley!
Andy from Calling All Stations came along, his TH-cam channel is here: / aventinemedia
The ORR statistics for passengers numbers for all stations is here: dataportal.orr...
with the length of the platform, I'm wondering whether White Notley sees the lowest number of passengers per day per metre of platform. Yes, I know that's a really weird metric to work with, but it intrigued me for a moment.
Mercenary Pen I'd wager you are onto something...
Mercenary Pen Geoff - please calculate this! I'm suddenly very interested
I doubt it, there are stations with less than 100 per year.
Brigg or Kirton Lindsey would be contenders, that line still has 7-coach platforms from when it was more important than now.
Love the 3-2-1 and Ted Rogers reference. I’m proud to call Ted’s son Danny a friend. He followed in his dad’s footsteps and he’s an actor too. Very lovely and talented guy, just like his dad.
The platform at White Notely can accommodate twelve carriage length trains, which happens during the Monday - Friday Peak Rush Hours. There is an automatic half barrier level crossing at one end a user worked level crossing at the other end of the station.
Those magic words in the morning “I’m getting the tea’s in”. Perfect.
Geoff. The numbering is because the old silverlink platforms, now where the DLR is
You should divide the numbers by 363. No train run on Christmas day or Boxing Day.
Woo a least used that I've been to or through. A medal for me
You’re a modern day Alan Whicker Geoff!
I’d have thought Battlesbridge was the least busiest station in Essex, there’s bugger all nowt there!
What's the least used station on the Glasgow subway?
West Street, with just 96,593 passengers.
Platform 10a is a stupid platform number. It is next-to-nothing to do with platform 10, apart from being both used for Norwich services, and if you are on one and need the other, as has sometimes happened to me during disruptions, you *have* to use stairs to do it in any kind of reasonable time. If, like me, you find stairs difficult, it's a nightmare.
The absent platform 7 would relate to 6 and 8 in the same way as platform 4, which was the DLR platform before they built 4a/b, related to 3 and 5.
Platform 10 in stratford used to be platform 9 and platform 10A used to be platform 10
Platform 10a is weird because it goes to Clacton and anyone who chooses to go there is weird!
Source: I used to live in Clacton.
I live in Clacton, I second this point
Visited a friend in Clacton, I'll happily third this
What's wrong with Clacton? :o
i live colchester and is 30 mins from clacfton
Clacton has some redeeming qualities. Perhaps you lived in Jaywick. LOL
8:10 That kind of crossing is known as an AHBC, Automatic Half Barrier Crossing. First of its kind in the UK was installed in Spath, Staffs and came into operation on 5th Feb 1961. Not enough of a signalling geek to tell you brands!
Sam Wainwright Signalling geek here!
ABCL - Automatic Barrier Crossing; Locally Monitored. AHBs are supervised remotely by the signalman for faults; ABCL crossings (and various similar types) send no feedback to signalman - easy way to tell - ABCL will have a flashing white light displayed to driver to indicate crossing has operated correctly.
Thanks you two.
My life is complete
thanks
Interesting, glad I took a moment to stop the video.
Thanks to both of you!
The platform is long enough for 12 car trains which are used in rush hour.
Delays are also part of the Abellio Greater Anglia experience
LightningMotionshot NS are one of the better ones in europe, get your facts straights
LOL. I'm Dutch and just like many other Dutchies, I disagree.
@@OneKnifeYeHand it's not part of the NL Abellio experience because they're actually held to account there, here they can have a 50% on time rate and keep running
10 cars now since the 720s came in
2:44 'it's only four cars' don't take that for granted Geoff, that's a luxury in the north!
I wrote the exact same comment myself but removed it when I saw yours. We have 2 car pacers more full than the Tokyo metro
Down in south west wales we get 1 or 2 carriages
Alex Smith reading that comment while squished on a late pacer for another half an hour
DO O1 we get 0 carriages because our trains are always bloody cancelled!
Down south we get 8 car and 10 car coaches.. I wish i could donate some!
Are you doing the least used one in The Isle Of Wight? 😊
Callum LTFC Rutland first
Probably
Callum LTFC but he’s never been! XD
He has
That will probably be Lake station or Smallbrook Junction. But then again, the latter is only open when the Isle of Wight Steam Railway is operating, so I don't know if it's worthy of inclusion.
I grew up in white notley. In the 70s. When the station was much smaller and lower. The stationmaster used to have to watch to see which door opened and drag a set of wooden steos down so you could get out . He was station master and signalman in that small signal box on the platform. Manually operated gates , which he forgot to open sometimes. The house was painted bright pink. There used to be a old WW2 pill box opposite.. the line was operated by a class 101 back then. It was a long scary walk down to the village after dark. .
I like that the owners of "Station House" have had it blurred out on Streetview but their house is now immortilised in full view in this video.
They didn't "have it" blurred out -- that's automatically done by an algorithm which processes all the Google maps data.
The level crossing is an Automatic Half-Barrier (AHB) which are a completely automatic, with no manual imput from signallers (unless their is a fault then the local Mobile Operations Manager (MOM) will be out and about), they are also not interlocked with the lineside signalling, in order to reduce the delay for road traffic as tradditionally manual level crossings needed to be closed before all signalling has been cleared, in some cases a train would be over a mile and half away when the crossing would close.
Automatic crossings where previously operated by treadles that the train would depress in the track at a set distance from the crossing, however I have heard on occasions, if the train was brought to a stop before the crossing (through a normal station stop or an emergency), the crossing may time-out and the barriers would lift, a more modern and system is through "Track-Circuits" and "Approach Control/Release" where a train would have to occupy a section of track for a set period of time before the crossing barriers activate thus controlling the train to a low speed or to a full stop. At White Notley I would think trains in the 'up' direction would have a longer time to occupy the section as trains would need to slow down or stop at the station, whereas 'down' trains would have longer section but possibly shorter time as the line-speed may be higher on approach to the crossing and then the station, stopping or not. At either end of the crossing is a light on a post, this flashes white to indicate to the driver that the barriers have operated correctly.
Source of Info: Modern Signalling Handbook
Hope this helps, MG.
4:07 anyone else hold down the open button just before stopping so as soon as it illuminates it opens immediately so you save 0.1 seconds in reaction time on your journey?!
Stratford station needs to be completely renumbered. The current numbering is illogical you have platform 2 next to platform 12 and platform 3a just above platforms 14-17. I know that the different ages of these platforms (i.e 1 and 2 were only built when the NLL moved). But still its an absolute mess. Renumber it starting from the current platform 12, which becomes platform 3 etc.
I also have to say I'm quite surprised c2c aren't interested in using it as a second terminus. Stratford is far more popular than Fenchurch Street.
c2c run weekend services to Liverpool Street via Stratford, alas (for me) they only go via Basildon.
Funnily enough, Platforms 4 and 7 were intended to be used to run Fenchurch Street - Limehouse (then called Stepney East) - Bow Road - Stratford shuttles following electrification, but the service never materialised, with Platform 4 subsequently being used by the DLR until 2007 when it transferred to new Platforms 4A and 4B.
As for wholesale renumbering, I think that's been kicked into the long grass as "too difficult" for now given the number of systems it would affect.
It never materialised due to the war kicking off right after the line was completed but before it could be signed off. By the time the war was over it wasn't in demand anymore and eventually large sections of the rail in place was taken over for the DLR.
Heuston Station in Dublin has platforms 2-5 directly accessible from the concourse, Platform 1 down at the end of Platform 2, and platforms 6-8 down at the end of Platform 5. So far, it all makes sense: platforms 1-8 are in order. However, Platform 10 (unused) sits at the far end of the car park, a good six minute walk away. There is no Platform 9.
the platform is so long because about 3 trains in the morning & evening peaks are 12 coaches! and busy too!
Brands for the level crossing - the barriers are made by SPX Rail Systems in Dagenham and the lights (wigwags) are made by Unipart in York!
My other half loves watching your videos , and was happy u did this one as we both live in white notley
man as an essex girl who has moved to edinburgh a few years ago..... the sound of the GA train pulling in.... I cried
Greater Anglia in a nutshell. Late, always.
Later Angrier
@@harrisonbatzloff5307 10/10
They're not always late. Sometimes they're cancelled.
No surprise there as it's run by NS (Dutch Railways) who are also famous for that.
@@fozz1138 just like one of those northbound trains that was gonna leave from Watford junction to a street full of parks
Level crossing gates: I think that crossings with half gates (that only cover half of the carriageway on each side) are usually automatic, as road traffic on the track when the barriers go down can go around them to get clear. Gates that block the whole road are manually triggered by someone who is remotely monitoring cameras, to make sure that no traffic is trapped on the rails.
Other people’s reactions to you filming are just as entertaining to watch as the video :)
3:51 nice sound!
I'm from White Notley, this is the most bizarre/pointless video I've seen in a while!
hi geoff i live in braintree a few days ago me and my friend decided to just go a couple stops to white notley and see what changed and the geocash isn't there anymore maybe it fell or someone took it
i live in essex but i travel to london by c2c not greater anglia
Good!
Geoff Platforms at Stratford were as follows. Platform 4 & Platform 7 witch you may notice do not exist at stratford were former platforms used for terminating shuttle trains from Fenchurch Street Station.
Platform 10a never used to exist as when the old station building existed between platforms 10 and eleven the platform extended out more with only the singe track were doors could open either side at platform 10.
Platform 1&2. before the New platforms 1&2 were built on the high level section for the new overground services the used to be the now DLR low level tracks with are now platforms 16&17.
The High Level DLR platforms towards canary Wharf and Lewisham are now Classified as class 4A & 4B.
Jubilee Line services ar Platforms 13-15. Platform 11 Platform 12 is now a ghost platform and only is very Rarely Used.I have a spreadsheet to show this if you would like it. Hope that clears your questions up.
eyy braintree is my home station :)) you pretty much just traveled my commute
Am i dreaming calling all stations (Andy) and Geoff marshall in 1 video. Love it
I find these videos fascinating but cannot explain why.
I’ve been caught out at Stratford now many times. It’s a labyrinth.
321's also nicknamed Dusty Bins!
Hence the clip of the show...
Yep
Be me
Live in the US
No rail service.
Anywhere.
Baron von Crags hmmmm... me and my friends who commuted on trains around Boston and New York must’ve been imagining we did that then... 🤔
8:22 - Yes. There are loads of Level Crossing nerds on TH-cam and around the internet.
Geoff’s guest contributor kind of looks like US actor Bobby Moynihan (best known for being a former member of the cast of Saturday Night Live)
Subscribed to Andy just because he's from harlow
8:30 for a split second you can see the treadle which operates the level crossing half barriers. It's a small rectangular box between the rails and it will have a switch on it that a trains wheel can press. Pressing it will either raise or lower the barrier, there will be another treadle out of shot on the other side of the crossing.
**Edit:** you can see the other one for an even briefer period of time as they walk down the platform in sped up footage. It's by a signpost.
Much as I enjoy this series, It's difficult not to pine for the days when such stations would have had a stationmaster, a porter, and probably a signalman, at least. Also a waiting room, a coal fire, someone to sell you a ticket and a loo.
Now it's a draughty bus shelter and an info button, if you're lucky. Sic transit gloria mundi.
I remember White Notley when it had a crossing keeper. He lived in the house next to the station, shown in the video. He opened and closed wooden crossing gates by hand and you could buy tickets from him at the station office. The crossing was automated when I was a child, maybe 8 years old? (I'm in my late 20s now). They took away the wooden gates, got rid of the crossing keeper and bulldozed the WW2 pillbox where the village Home Guard had stood watch over the station.
I loved the good old days when someone would sell me a loo along with my ticket, my How times have changed. 😁
@@user-bh4rx8mf8g I moved to tye green in the late 80s and had forgotten all about the wooden gates , concrete shelter and crossing guard . Thanks for reminding me , they had the same system at cressing station .
I too feel nostalgic for the charm of a friendly manned small station but times change . And if all these small stations hadn't changed then rail fares would be even more expensive - human beings cost lots of money .
@@andynixon2820 When these stations were manned, there was no alternative to rail travel for most people. The volume of travellers using the station facilitated, indeed necessitated, railway workers to operate them. As common carriers a station might have to accept a prize pig or a consignment of gold bars. It's also true that people didn't expect and certainly didn't receive high wages for working on the railway.
That Greater Anglia livery is the dullest since Connex roamed the rails...
You're not wrong there! Who on Earth thought that was an eye-catching colour combo?
@@mojomusica Actually it was a bit of a cost saving exercise. The franchise for that area before "Greater Anglia" tookover had a number of different liveries due to frequent changes in ownership going back to First becoming hooked up with One, then switching to National Express. The trains after that were treated to a sticker over whatever previous livery they had. What you see there is the remains of the National Express livery with or without some of the silver striping removed then the Greater Anglia sticker fixed over whatever name was there previously. They've even had two different logos so that sometimes means two stickers!
i think the southern livery is spot on with light green and yellow its easy to spot and distinguish
I used to work at Stratford and was told that there used to be a platform 7, it used to be the old DLR platform before they built the new DLR platform. It became redundant when it moved to the new ones and didn't renumber it, it is now a phantom platform we used to send insulting passengers too for a giggle. On another note you will find the newish overground platforms as 1 & 2 these used to be platforms 17 & 18. To not confuse the punters some bright spark decided to keep 1 & 2 as overground, I always found it odd how they numbered the platforms there. This info can not be relied upon however. Great vid by the way.
AIUI the old Platform 4 (now long gone) used to be the old DLR platform. Platform 7 is the unused bay next to the Eastbound Central Line, and AFAIK it's never actually been used.
White Notely looks like a delightful village and must be very close to the station. I would have been very tempted by a short walk to the Cross Keys pub.
Greater Anglia is 60% owned by Abellio, which in turn is owned by the Nederlandse Spoorwegen (NS).
And the NS is famous for being frequently late, so I guess it all trickles down to subsidiaries as well.
When I was a kid, 321's were a big leap over the old slam door trains running that Braintree service but now even these are beginning to show their age. 323's are a nicer environment to be in.
The 31x (can't remember the class number) used to be the mainstay on one of the services, can't remember which. Was that to Harwich Parkstone Quay?
Black Notley was once the site of an isolated hospital for contagious diseases. It became notorious locally, anyone sent to Black Notley never came back...
AHBC Automatic Half Barrier Crossing that is what they are called Geoff and love all your videos
0:24 Take your foot of the seat please Geoff.
On Lowestoft branch at Woodbridge the driver gets out and opens cabinet with key to press plunger. It's slow approach speed. Ones were approach speed greater then barriers go down earlier.
Again a line which should have been kept as many of the towns Dunmow etc ste now Commuter Towns but now have to drive to nearest rail station blocking the roads up...
I like when being born in Harlow the camera looks away to the heavens !!
My Old Station sold tickets and Operated The Level Crossing in BR Days late 80s
I hate startford so much for that bloody platform as i have to use that platform to get back to southend and they love changing it from 10 to 10a at the last minute so you are literally running down platform 10 down somw stairs and then up another set of stairs and it's there so annoying with a suitcase 🙄🙄
If you ever wanna prove Geoff is a normal person, he has a dirty pair of white air force 1 trainers haha.
They are called AHB Crossings (Automatic Half Barrier)
Of course more people would use this station if you could actually park your bloody car there.
I like the doctor’s companion he seems like a nice guy
He has eyes of a clever man
You could do a least used station with a full length platform (12 cars)
Been through that station many times, never seen anyone get off there. However, for a branch line it's almost always a busy train.
"Trains delayed" don't worry that's normal for greater Angelia customers
At the station there is a plunger to activate the Crossing there are AHB Automatic Half Barriers AHBL Automatic Half Barriers Locally Monitored AHBR Automatic Half Barriers Remotely Monitored MCB Manually Controled Barriers MCB OC Manually Controled Barriers On Call MCB OD Manually Controled Barriers Obstacle Detection AIC Automatic Open Crossing AOCR Automatic Open Crossing Remotely Monitored AOCL Automatic Open Crossing Locally Monitored UWC User Worked Crossing and that's all I can think of
Well that's the stop straight after my local one
Why didn't you get a permit to travel?
machine wasn't working
Stopped there many times when visiting family, but never got out of train. A lovely station name. They use to run 8 car sets but the back 4 were locked at Witham. Are there other single track electrified lines? Silver End isn't an old village but a a planned settlement based round a Crittall windows factory.
The Abbey line, Watford Junction - St Albans Abbey is a single track and electrified
The Crouch Valley line (Wickford - Southminster) is single track & electrified with a passing loop halfway at North Fambridge.
Surprised nobody mentioned the Romford to Upminster line 🤔 (if you want to count third rail too, there’s Lymington and pretty much all of the Island line on that!)
Really what about the Colchester-Walton on the naze its single track from Thorpe le soken where it spilts from the Clacton route
yay it's CAS
Welcome to Essex - I used to travel through here to Freeport when I worked there!
What is the most used station of the least used stations?
LiftFan I assume it's swale with 1.56 passengers (I think that's wright)
Oakham in Rutland must be up there with about 221,000, but it is a bit of a cheat as it is the only station in Rutland
@@btuckervideos4705 yes i dont think that should count
8:25 AHB geoff (Automatic Half Barrier)
HE'S DRINKING COFFEE. OH GOD
They are called automatic half barrier crossing
What is a permit to travel and why do you need it
here... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permit_to_travel
It is a lot less than that been on that train 5 years most days seen 3 people ever get on there
I was well annoyed when I went to Yorkshire. The train was delayed for an hour! And I was waiting to get to Skipton so I could to Arncliffe from Thirsk.. Thirsk sucks
Shouldn't you by dividing the ridership numbers by 366, since 2016 was a leap year?
The ORR (Office of the Rail Regulator) who produce the figures divide by 356, regardless of leap year or not (as a year has 365.25 days in it, the leap year in the calendar just brings those 0.25 days together)
The lights at the crossing would be unipart rail, alarms: yodalarms, barriers: SPX rail systems or SPX fluid power and the crossing is an AHBC.
Poor souls for being forced to travel on one of greater anglia's rust buckets - the 321 dustybin. They are actually investing in upgrading them, but what is the point if greater Anglia are going to replace EVERY SINGLE train in their network for brand spanking new Bombardier & Stadler trains?!
even the new 379s
I like the 321
You should do Least Used Station in East Yorkshire Geoff 👍
The people that feature in these videos seem to have the "nerd appeal".
Stratford: Ha we Have Weird Numbering Of Platforms
Leeds: hold My Beer
I lived in Leeds for a few years (University) and I don't remember the platform numbering system seeming weird.
ABCL Crossing - Automatic Barrier Crossing, Locally monitored.
Operation of the Crossing is by little treadles on the track and timers.
At station crossings such as at White Notley; the crossing timers are usually calibrated for stopping trains - hence the big “Stop” sign at the end of the platform - the Crossing sequence starts so many seconds after the train goes over the trackside treadle that triggers it.
The “Locally Monitored” part is because there is no feedback to the controlling signalman as to the “state” of the Crossing. Instead a flashing white light is displayed to the driver to indicate the Crossing has operated correctly.
Much, much more info:
www.railsigns.uk/info/xings2/xings2.html
Braintree represent! Grew up there and lived there for 13 years.
1:45 Don't even get me started on that, it drives me insane
It always weirds me out seeing the National Express moquettes on trains down south, when I'm so used to it being on the buses round where I live.
I love 321’s 😃
The two best railway you tubers in the same place
The crossing here is an Automatic Half Barrier (AHB), with 2 SFX RAIL Level crossing MK2 barrier mechanisms. With ALL crossings, the crossing must be activated 27 seconds before the train passes through the level crossing. :)
I live in Harlow.Yay
1:30 Oh, we have stuff like that in Germany, too. For example Uelzen, a small city station has two platforms but they are numbered as 101 and 102. I knew what was the reason, but I forgot it and Google gave me a different answer,so.. Sorry. :D Edit: One explanation I found is that tracks are counted from the station 1 to .., but sometimes they pair tracks going in the same direction(?) and label them different.
The answer to no platform 7 at Stratford is explained on the Wikipedia page.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratford_station#High-level_platforms
yeah, but could they be re-numbered so that 8 becomes 7, 9 becomes 8, 10 becomes 9, and 10a becomes 10. so that you have a logical sequence of numbered platforms again.
Geoff Marshall You'd still have Platforms 1 & 2 next to 11 & 12 ! If they're going to do any renumbering as suggested, they may as well incorporate those into a.logical sequence at the same time.
I still can't understand at Gravesend when they added the third platform why they renumbered Platform 1 as Platform 0. At least Stratford hasn't got one of those!
Level Crossing enthusiasts exist. After filming a railtour at one I keep being recommended level crossing spotter videos. They all seem to follow the same format, film the lights, barriers going down, then real off the expected serviced from RTT before screaming the number as the train goes past.
Power Scarf - let's face it
Wierdly, I thought the reason for the train delay was "Due to Steak & Chips" being made"! Had to listen twice to get it right. Probably better than "The wrong kind of snow"
Brundall e.g. with those manual barriers are known as gates.
Half arm barriers are known as AHB crossing (Automatic Half Barriers)
The full road crossings are MCB (Manual Closing Barriers)
Dammit Geoff, please clean your camera lenses, they seem to be getting grubbier for each least used station.
Even though its not Kings Cross if they have a weird numbering scheme that allows 10 and 10a they could have at least made one of them 9 3/4, because why not?
Greater Angila Is My Favorite Rail Company Because I Always Get Those Greater Angila Trains I Live Right Next To The line! My grandad Lives Close To The Class 321’s And I Live Near The Class.....erm I Forgot ._.