Former Seventh-day Adventist Pastor Exposes the Lies & Intentional Deceits of Ellen White & the SDA
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Larry Wessels, director of Christian Answers of Austin, Texas/ Christian Debater, websites: www.BibleQuery.org, www.HistoryCart.com, & www.MuslimHope.com, email: cdebater@aol.com) is joined in studio by former Seventh Day Adventist pastor Dale Ratzlaff (email: dale@ratzlaf.com) who relates his personal testimony of why he left the Seventh Day Adventist religion & why Ellen G. White is a false prophet.
Dale is author of Sabbath in Christ, The Cultic Doctrine of Seventh-day Adventists, The Truth About the Seventh-day Adventist Truth, and Adventist to Christian. Dale was an Adventist pastor for 13 years, seven of which he spent teaching Bible at Monterey Bay Academy , La Selva Beach, California. During his doctoral studies at Andrews University in the 1980’s, Dale became convinced that the 1844 investigative judgment could not be supported by Scripture. Since he could no longer teach this doctrine, he and his wife Carolyn left the Adventist denomination.
The Seventh-day Adventist doctrine of the investigative judgment and cleansing of the heavenly Sanctuary based upon Daniel 8:14 is indeed the central pillar of the Adventist faith. Some Adventists may disagree; however, it is. Ellen White said, “The scripture which above all others had been both the foundation and central pillar of the Advent faith was the declaration, ‘Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed’.
A recent book by Dr. Roy Adams is subtitled, Understanding the Heart of Adventist Theology, and it confirms this.The Adult Sabbath School Bible Study Guide, 2001, is entitled, Pillars of Our Faith. It includes chapters on “The Sabbath”, “The Heavenly Sanctuary”, “The Hour of God’s Judgment”, “The Remnant”, etc. The last two presidents of the General Conference have both expressed publicly that the Adventist church will not change.
•Ellen G. White said that Daniel 8:14 is the foundation and central pillar of the Advent faith.
•A recent book on the sanctuary by Adventist leader Dr. Roy Adams is subtitled, The heart of Adventist theology.
•A recent Adult Sabbath School Bible Study Guide, entitled, The pillars of our faith includes chapters on the “The Sabbath”, “The Heavenly Sanctuary”, “The Hour of God’s Judgment”, and “The Remnant”. It includes this quotation from Early Writings, p. 263, “Jesus entered the most holy of the heavenly, at the end of the 2300 days of Daniel 8, in 1844, to make final atonement for all who could be benefitted by His mediation, and thus to cleanse the sanctuary.”
•Dr. Roy Gane stated that he was excited to know that Ratzlaff understood that the sanctuary was central to Adventists.
•Dr. Richard Davidson referred to the sanctuary as the heart of doctrine.
•Dr. Angel Rodriguez, professor of theology at the Adventist seminary and associate director of the Adventist Biblical Research Institute, stated forthrightly, “Without 1844 and the doctrine of the Sanctuary ... there is no reason for us to exist. 1844 provided for us our identity and our mission. And if we are wrong, then we are simply wrong.”
We can see that the stakes are high.
There are many, perhaps the majority, of Adventist pastors and Bible teachers who want to run as far away from Daniel 8:14, 1844 and the investigative judgment, and the cleansing of the heavenly sanctuary as possible. Yet the church cannot dismiss this doctrine. This doctrine is not only the central pillar in name, it is the central pillar holding up the whole Adventist identity. That is why the last two General Conference presidents have openly endorsed Ellen White and the sanctuary doctrine. If they were to admit the errors of October 22, 1844, and the investigative judgment as the cleansing of the heavenly sanctuary as taught by Ellen White, then Ellen White would fall as “a continuing and authoritative source of truth”.
Someone posted the comment "I LOVE THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH FOREVER. THERE IS NO TRUE REMNANT CHURCH OTHER THAN THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH. "Thou shall know them by their fruits ". We responded with Jesus destroys Adventism's Counterfeit Gospel - Click on www.google.com/search?q=why+seventh-day+adventism+is+false+life+assurance+ministries&client=firefox-b-1-d&sca_esv=593506903&sxsrf=AM9HkKmE4oJ5gzO3UVnK7zEO_oac5YR5EQ%3A1703473582104&ei=rvGIZdHzBeG1qtsPl46iyAs&ved=0ahUKEwjRgvvNzamDAxXhmmoFHReHCLkQ4dUDCBA&oq=why+seventh-day+adventism+is+false+life+assurance+ministries&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiPHdoeSBzZXZlbnRoLWRheSBhZHZlbnRpc20gaXMgZmFsc2UgbGlmZSBhc3N1cmFuY2UgbWluaXN0cmllczIFECEYoAEyBRAhGKsCSI2FAVDACViVaXABeAGQAQCYAWygAbERqgEEMjguMbgBDMgBAPgBAcICChAAGEcY1gQYsAPCAgQQIxgnwgIGEAAYFhgewgILEAAYgAQYigUYhgPCAggQIRgWGB4YHcICCBAAGIAEGKIE4gMEGAAgQYgGAZAGCA&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#ip=1 . Satan has absolutely NO role in our salvation. We do not become saved as a way of avoiding the Devil the best way we can. We are not looking for God as a way out of Satan’s influence but rather trusting Jesus to overcome the works of the devil on our behalf. Furthermore, we are not born with any internal desire for goodness. We are born dead in sin, and dead men have no ability to rise above their natures (Ephesians 2:1. "1As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins,"). God, the only Source of life, has to come to us and reveal Himself to us as He draws us to Himself (John 6:37, 39,39 -“No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day.").
The Adventist idea, however, promulgated to the worldwide organization for Sabbath School members all to study on the same day of the year in every Adventist congregation on earth, teaches that humans are saved by their own reaction against Satan! The Scapegoat Heresy!
The final insult in the Adventist “plan of salvation”, however, comes in their scenario of the end of their “investigative judgment”. They teach that when Jesus is finally finished investigating the lives of professed believers and determining which ones have confessed all their sins and have been loyal to God by keeping the law, Jesus will place the sins of the saved upon Satan who is the scapegoat of Leviticus 16. Satan will then bear the sins of the saved out of heaven, thus cleansing “the sanctuary”, and he will be punished for them in the lake of fire.
This teaching makes Satan, not Jesus, the final sin-bearer of the saved.
Adventists are quick to assert that Satan is not the sin-bearer, yet this idea comes directly from Ellen White:
"Since Satan is the originator of sin, the direct instigator of all the sins that caused the death of the Son of God, justice demands that Satan shall suffer the final punishment. Christ’s work for the redemption of men and the purification of the universe from sin, will be closed by the removal of sin from the heavenly sanctuary and the placing of these sins upon Satan, who will bear the final penalty" (Patriarchs and Prophets, p. 358).
"In the typical service the high priest, having made the atonement for Israel, came forth and blessed the congregation. So Christ, at the close of His work as mediator, will appear, “without sin unto salvation” (Heb. 9:28), to bless His waiting people with eternal life. As the priest, in removing the sins from the sanctuary, confessed them upon the head of the scapegoat, so Christ will place all these sins upon Satan, the originator and instigator of sin. The scapegoat, bearing the sins of Israel, was sent away “unto a land not inhabited” (Lev. 16:22); so Satan, bearing the guilt of all the sins which he has caused God’s people to commit, will be for a thousand years confined to the earth, which will then be desolate, without inhabitant, and he will at last suffer the full penalty of sin in the fires that shall destroy all the wicked" (The Great Controversy, pp. 485-486).
"Satan did not then exult as he had done. He had hoped to break up the plan of salvation; but it was laid too deep. And now by the death of Christ he knew that he himself must finally die, and his kingdom given to Jesus. He held a council with his angels. He had prevailed nothing against the Son of God, and now they must increase their efforts and with their powers and cunning turn to His followers. They must prevent all whom they could from receiving the salvation purchased for them by Jesus. By so doing Satan could still work against the government of God. Also it would be for his own interest to keep from Jesus as many as possible. For the sins of those who are redeemed by the blood of Christ will at last be rolled back upon the originator of sin, and he must bear their punishment, while those who do not accept salvation through Jesus will suffer the penalty of their own sins" (Early Writings p. 178).
Adventists will say that Jesus is represented by the sacrificial goat on the Day of Atonement, but that Satan is represented by the living goat sent into the wilderness. In truth, however, it required both goats to represent what the Lamb of God did for us. He not only shed His blood as a propitiation-a payment to satisfy the demands of God for sin-but He also bore the penalty of sinners who were sent out of the camp and removed from the fellowship of God’s people. The sacrificial goat represented propitiation; the scapegoat represented expiation-the consequence of sin on sinners: removal from the camp.
Hebrews 13:12, 13 emphasizes this fact:
Therefore Jesus also, that He might sanctify the people through His own blood, suffered outside the gate. So, let us go out to Him outside the camp, bearing His reproach.
Satan never, in any sense, bears our sins. Furthermore, our sins never defile heaven, as EGW's doctrine of “the sanctuary” maintains. Jesus’ blood never transfers our sins to heaven where they await being placed on Satan for removal to the lake of fire!
Blood always cleanses! Even in the Old Testament, the blood carried into the tabernacle on the Day of Atonement did not defile. It cleansed.
Jesus’ blood always cleanses, and it cleanses us from the moment the Father draws us to see what Jesus did as our Substitute, and we place our faith and trust entirely in Him alone. His crucifixion marked the fullness of atonement, and that atonement is complete. Jesus Himself declared that “It Is Finished!”
When we believe, we are born again and counted fully righteous with the righteousness of Christ alone on the basis of His propitiating blood! When we believe, we are born again and counted fully righteous with the righteousness of Christ alone on the basis of His propitiating blood!
In spite of its seductive external appearance, Adventism is a trap. It is a “clever and dangerous spiritual counterfeit” that draws people in with gospel-sounding words. Once inside, however, its members find themselves in a tightening web of confusion and guilt, anxiety and shame. They think they believe in Jesus, but their Jesus did not complete the atonement at the cross, and their Jesus is still fighting a battle with the devil.
Their Jesus is not the final Substitute for us in His death for sin and His enduring God’s wrath for our our sin. Rather, their Jesus requires Satan to help complete the eradication of sin. Their Jesus finally offloads our sin onto Satan who bears them into the Lake of Fire where he is punished for them!
In Adventism, Jesus is a noble victim, the volunteer who offered to die to demonstrate that Satan’s claims were false. Satan, conversely, resembles a tragic hero, the evil counterpart to Jesus who ultimately receives the final punishment because of his own fatal flaw: evil.
The real Jesus, however, is not a victim but our Substitute. He received the ultimate punishment for sin: God’s wrath poured out on Him as He hung between heaven and earth on the cross. Jesus alone rescues us from our death and gives us eternal life when we finally see what He has done and trust Him.
The real Jesus is Lord of Lords, and Satan is doomed and disarmed. In Jesus alone we have eternal life.
“Now judgment is upon this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out. And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself” (John 12:31, 32).
Very well said.
Thats your big problem. You love the Adventist church and Ellen White more than the Lord Jesus and the Bible . You remind me of aa friend of mine in who is ELDER in SDA WHEN GIVING HIS IDENTITY HE would say I am and Seventh day Adventist first the A Barbadian and then his political party. we other Christians would tell him you should say a Christian first. Brainwashed
The best thing for all Christians to do is to read and know the bible for themselves. Have a personal relationship with Jesus and he will guide us to the truth we all look for.
You couldn't have said it any better, Avon Allen. 100% agree with you. The Bible is the SOLE authority (2 Timothy 3:16-17), not false prophets such as Ellen White, Joseph Smith, CT Russell, Mary Baker Eddy Muhammad etc.
Matthew 7:15 "Beware of false prophets"
Nuff said!!!🤷🏽♀️💯💯💯
Amen
Can't see how anyone could disagree with this
@Avon Allen Yes...Spot on...Read the bible, everyone...especially the new testament
So many people have a relationship with religion and not God.
agree
And that Ellen White bch made sure that remnants of millerite did just that.
Majority false teachings
That's how they mislead thinking religion and God r different
Right! Who are you praying to money, a drug, or God?
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Dale is author of Sabbath in Christ, The Cultic Doctrine of Seventh-day Adventists, The Truth About the Seventh-day Adventist Truth, and Adventist to Christian. Dale was an Adventist pastor for 13 years, seven of which he spent teaching Bible at Monterey Bay Academy , La Selva Beach, California. During his doctoral studies at Andrews University in the 1980’s, Dale became convinced that the 1844 investigative judgment could not be supported by Scripture. Since he could no longer teach this doctrine, he and his wife Carolyn left the Adventist denomination.
The Seventh-day Adventist doctrine of the investigative judgment and cleansing of the heavenly Sanctuary based upon Daniel 8:14 is indeed the central pillar of the Adventist faith. Some Adventists may disagree; however, it is. Ellen White said, “The scripture which above all others had been both the foundation and central pillar of the Advent faith was the declaration, ‘Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed’.
A recent book by Dr. Roy Adams is subtitled, Understanding the Heart of Adventist Theology, and it confirms this.The Adult Sabbath School Bible Study Guide, 2001, is entitled, Pillars of Our Faith. It includes chapters on “The Sabbath”, “The Heavenly Sanctuary”, “The Hour of God’s Judgment”, “The Remnant”, etc. The last two presidents of the General Conference have both expressed publicly that the Adventist church will not change.
•Ellen G. White said that Daniel 8:14 is the foundation and central pillar of the Advent faith.
•A recent book on the sanctuary by Adventist leader Dr. Roy Adams is subtitled, The heart of Adventist theology.
•A recent Adult Sabbath School Bible Study Guide, entitled, The pillars of our faith includes chapters on the “The Sabbath”, “The Heavenly Sanctuary”, “The Hour of God’s Judgment”, and “The Remnant”. It includes this quotation from Early Writings, p. 263, “Jesus entered the most holy of the heavenly, at the end of the 2300 days of Daniel 8, in 1844, to make final atonement for all who could be benefitted by His mediation, and thus to cleanse the sanctuary.”
•Dr. Roy Gane stated that he was excited to know that Ratzlaff understood that the sanctuary was central to Adventists.
•Dr. Richard Davidson referred to the sanctuary as the heart of doctrine.
•Dr. Angel Rodriguez, professor of theology at the Adventist seminary and associate director of the Adventist Biblical Research Institute, stated forthrightly, “Without 1844 and the doctrine of the Sanctuary ... there is no reason for us to exist. 1844 provided for us our identity and our mission. And if we are wrong, then we are simply wrong.”
We can see that the stakes are high.
There are many, perhaps the majority, of Adventist pastors and Bible teachers who want to run as far away from Daniel 8:14, 1844 and the investigative judgment, and the cleansing of the heavenly sanctuary as possible. Yet the church cannot dismiss this doctrine. This doctrine is not only the central pillar in name, it is the central pillar holding up the whole Adventist identity. I agree 100% with Dr. Rodriguez on this point. If the Adventist church were to jettison this teaching, the organization would be morphed into something it is not. That is why the last two General Conference presidents have openly endorsed Ellen White and the sanctuary doctrine. If they were to admit the errors of October 22, 1844, and the investigative judgment as the cleansing of the heavenly sanctuary as taught by Ellen White, then Ellen White would fall as “a continuing and authoritative source of truth”. If Ellen White is rejected, the doctrine of the remnant church would fall on the heap. If the remnant church doctrine goes, then the Sabbath as the seal of God for end time believers and Sunday as the mark of the beast crumbles into the dust.
The tragedy is that almost every single denomination has former members, who then label it a false religion. Christianity in the Book Of Acts is the only true one, where no one claims to be superior to others and Christ alone is magnified. People should strictly study scripture for themselves and not base their belief on any particular denomination.
Amen
We have few true churches out there.
I couldn't agree more. People like to defend their denominations when should actually be defending the Scriptures.
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A question Please? Do you guys still believe in the 7th day Sabbath, Saturday, and the SAD church refused to baptised me bcuz I am struggling with cigarettes. They say I must first repent, tun away/quit completely, then they will baptize. Is that biblical? God says in His Word to repent and be baptised that your sins may be washed away. What are your thoughts on me being baptised. For years I have struggled and understand Paul when we don't do What we want, but what we hate. I am broken and have not been back to church since then. I can find a church that is biblical 100 percent. What is the name of your book please and can I get it on Amazon. I live here in Tx abiut 3 hours from Austin. I begged Pastor Doug Bachelor to come baptised me cause my church wouldn't and He refused for the same reason. Are they correct in that and what is the true 100 percent bible teaching church. I'm confused. Sorry for my typos and grammar. Tia
@@samijo9976 - Because the Seventh-day Adventist religious sect is not a Christian church but rather is a false Ellen G. White cult (see our playlist at th-cam.com/play/PL5316CC6F66F24283.html) they have treated you shamefully in refusing to baptize you. You need to find a true Bible believing church where you can get baptized. Remember Christ came into the world to save man from his sinfulness. The Holy Spirit is well able to deliver us from the works of the flesh. Notice Ephesians1: 12-13 the reason why this word is important is so you have God’s word and you stand there on it. We are sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, and the very moment you believe, summons the very birth the new birth, and your body then becomes that moment a temple of the Holy Spirit, because he then that moment brings the new birth and indwells the believer. So stand upon this rock this Word of truth, and cause your mind to be renewed by it, say I am sealed with the Holy Spirit of promised because I heard the word of truth the gospel of my salvation and I have the word of God on it, in Jesus name.
Notice John 3: 8 ”The wind blows where it pleases and you hear the sound thereof, but you cannot tell from where it comes or where it goes, So is everyone who is born of the Spirit."
Now lets bring our minds to 1 Corinthians 12: 13 and again stand here, God has subjected us to the justification that is through faith, Each one of these verses are filled with faith. There is no word that is void of power and faith. So glean the faith through believing, you have a God given right because you believed unto justification of life when you believed that God raised Jesus from the dead, therefore being just in God sight you get to have the mighty Holy Spirit strengthening you in the inner man so Christ can dwell in your hearts by faith.
Now the faith of this word should have you strong because of it and you should be thanking God and praising His Holy name. By one Spirit are we all baptized into one body (the LORD’s Body) whether Jews or Gentiles, bond or free, (anyone who will believe) ad have all been made to drink into “One Spirit” This didn’t happen right now when you read it, it happened when you first heard and believed, Ephesians 1: 12-13, What you are able to do right now is renew your mind with it.
Get your mind to rest here, and go on to the next place of faith. Let it be settled as freely as God so gave it to you and know that God loves you and loves you and some more love and more and them more every morning His steadfast love is new (if you have been indeed been supernaturally "born again" by God as Jesus must happen first - John 3:3-8, Romans 8:1-17, etc.).
Now if God did not spare His Only Son but offered Him up for us, will he not also with Him give us freely all things, Romans 8: 32 and Ephesians 1: 3 and 1: 17-19. Notice what we are to do when we believe 2 Corinthians 4: 13 and do it all the time when you find a promise in His Word, Hebrews 9: 16-17 and 1 Corinthians 11: 26.
The Bible never directly mentions smoking. There are principles, however, that definitely apply to smoking. First, the Bible commands us not to allow our bodies to become "mastered" by anything. "Everything is permissible for me-but not everything is beneficial. Everything is permissible for me-but I will not be mastered by anything" (1 Corinthians 6:12). Smoking is undeniably strongly addictive. Later in the same passage we are told, "Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body" (1 Corinthians 6:19-20). Smoking is undoubtedly very bad for your health. Smoking has been proven to damage the lungs and the heart.
Can smoking be considered "beneficial" (1 Corinthians 6:12)? Can it be said that smoking is truly honoring God with your body (1 Corinthians 6:20)? Can a person honestly smoke "for the glory of God" (1 Corinthians 10:31)? We believe that the answer to these three questions is a resounding "no." As a result, we believe that smoking is a sin and therefore should not be practiced by followers of Jesus Christ.
Some argue against this view by pointing to the fact that many people eat unhealthy foods, which can be just as addicting and just as bad for the body. As an example, many people are so helplessly addicted to caffeine that they cannot function without their first cup of coffee in the morning. While this is true, how does that make smoking right? It is our contention that Christians should avoid gluttony and excessively unhealthy eating. Yes, Christians are often hypocritical by condemning one sin and condoning another, but, again, this does not make smoking honoring to God.
Another argument against this view of smoking is that many godly men have been smokers, such as the famous British preacher C.H. Spurgeon, who was known to smoke cigars. Again, we do not believe this argument holds any weight. We believe Spurgeon was wrong for smoking. Was he otherwise a godly man and fantastic teacher of God's Word? Absolutely! Does that make all of his actions and habits honoring to God? No.
In stating that smoking is a sin, we are not stating that all smokers are unsaved. There are many true believers in Jesus Christ who smoke. Smoking does not prevent a person from being saved. Nor does it cause a person to lose salvation. Smoking is no less forgivable than any other sin, whether for a person becoming a Christian or a Christian confessing his/her sin to God (1 John 1:9). At the same time, we firmly believe that smoking is a sin that should be forsaken and, with God’s help, overcome.
Recommended Resource: Freedom from Addiction: Breaking the Bondage of Addiction and Finding Freedom in Christ by Neil Anderson
If they do not surrender the heart and life to Jesus, they would not understand scriptures.
It is obvious that SDA followers do not understand the scriptures since they follow a false prophetess (Matthew 7:15) & have a false gospel by adding works & mandatory sabbath keeping to the gospel which are damnable heresies (Galatians 1:6-9). They are religionists without the Holy Spirit of God trying to get to heaven in their own way instead of the Biblical way which proves your comment correct in 1 Corinthians 2:14, "But a natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned." SDA people need to be "born again" by the Holy Spirit & only then will they understand the scriptures correctly (John 3:3-8).
The church it self cannot do that only the people as an individual can do that
People who are lost can slowly or quickly understand the scriptures..some take weeks & some take years..but afterbthey get the message & clearly understand it..then they can make their decision to become a born again Christian..if they want to...some people have to be talked into it..that is ok, too.
Tell me where she lied in the Great Controversy book that she wrote over 100 years ago. Which part isn’t coming to pass right now now in your face.
Jessica Warr - Please start with this "ERRORS OF ‘THE GREAT CONTROVERSY’ (200 errors listed) By Russell Earl Kelly, PHD, author of "Exposing Seventh-day Adventism" at www.tithing-russkelly.com/sda/id11.html . Next, go to "Bible Contradictions, Plagiarism, Failed Visions of Ellen G. White" & click on the "Great Controversy" section at www.truthorfables.com/siteindex.htm . Next check out "Living in a Worldview of Deception - The Great Controversy" at lifeassuranceministries.org/proclamation/2011/2/greatcontroversy.html . Ellen G. White (EGW) had her famous two-hour "great controversy vision" in Lovett's Grove, Ohio, in mid-March, 1858. This vision is described in her book The Great Controversy Between Christ and Satan, and it describes Adventist reality like this:
Before time began, God the Father exalted Jesus to be equal to Himself.
When Adam and Eve sinned, the Father took Jesus into His inner council and allowed Him to become the sacrifice for sin.
God's exaltation of Jesus over Lucifer made Lucifer jealous.
Lucifer rebelled and turned one-third of heaven's angels against God.
He accused God of unfairness, of giving a law too difficult to keep, yet demanding obedience.
God banished Lucifer/Satan and his angels to earth.
Satan deceived Eve, thus causing humanity to sin.1
Ever since, Satan and Jesus have been battling each other for the souls of men.
God gave the written transcript of His character on Mt. Sinai so we would know how to live.
Jesus came with sinful flesh like Mary's to show us we can keep the law as He did.
Jesus' death vindicates and exalts God's law.
Ultimately God's people will become free of sin and prove God's law is fair and attainable.
When God's people perfectly reproduce the character of Christ, they will vindicate God's character, prove Satan to be a liar, and thus help Jesus win the conflict with Satan.2
Jesus will place all confessed sins on Satan who will carry them into the lake of fire where he, Satan, "will bear the final penalty" for them.3
Finally, God's people have the power to "hasten [their] Lord's return" by throwing themselves into carrying the Adventist message to the world and keeping the law perfectly.4
The mark demarcating the saved from the lost is the observance of the seventh-day Sabbath, while worshiping on Sunday is the mark of the beast.5
Footnotes:
1. EGW, The Great Controversy, pp. 492-504.
2. EGW, Christ's Object Lessons, p. 69
3. EGW, Patriarchs and Prophets, p. 358. See also The Great Controversy, p. 673.
4. EGW, The Desire of Ages, pp. 633, 634.
5. EGW, The Great Controversy, p. 605.
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Matthew 7:15, "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."
Jessica like you are reading with your eyes close.Why do you think they have to review thst book so often,it started off with over 700 pages today it's about 473 pages,what happen to the other pages.
One dont even have to point them out because they are all over and the fact is many of the things written are stolen from other authors.Jessica look at the date of the returned of Christ, who is our sin bearer? is not she said is satan,please run from that cult and run to JESUS THE CHRIST,REDEEMER AND SAVIOUR OF HUMANITY.
How about you just listen what the man in the video has to say first, before you get so defensive?
The MOB is not Sunday worship but an actual mark in the right hand or forehead. EGW has decieved you all that you're going to fall for the real mark and to worship the Antichrist
She denied the deity of Christ when Jesus refers to Himself as the Alpha and Omega, a title used exclusively for God Almighty.
If any other angel Preach any other Gospel let him be a curse! The Bible has warmed us time & time again!
the religion Iglesia ni Cristo 1914 preaches another Gospel , they deny the deity of Christ and the trinity.
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Dale also says, "Larry, anytime you have someone in a foreign country where poverty abounds and they request it, I will send them a free eBook, either "Sabbath in Christ" or "Cultic Doctrine." They must personally request it. It is in a pdf form and cannot be printed or edited but can be read on their tablet, phone or computer. In countries where they can afford it, the books are $8.00 on my web site or $9.95 on Amazon. I just finished Spanish "Sabbath in Christ" eBook. It is also in a pdf file with hyperlinks from contents to chapter titles and back. I will send it free to anyone who requests it but they must request it by email me at Dale@ratzlaf.com. Check out this offer at lifeassuranceministries.com/minnews.html."
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2 Timothy 4:2-5, "preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, 4 and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths. 5 But you, be sober in all things, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry."
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Why do we worship on Sunday instead of Saturday?
In the Old Testament, God stated,
"Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and
do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of the Lord your
God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter,
your male or your female servant or your cattle or your sojourner who
stays with you," (Exodus 20:8-10, NASB).
It was the custom of the Jews to come together on the Sabbath, which is
Saturday, cease work, and worship God. Jesus went to the synagogue on
Saturday to teach (Matt. 12:9, John 18:20)
as did the apostle Paul (Acts 17:2; 18:4). So, if in the Old Testament
we are commanded to keep the Sabbath and in the New Testament we see
Jews, Jesus, and the apostles doing the same thing, then why do we
worship on Sunday?
First of all, of the 10 commandments listed in Exodus 20:1-17, only 9 of
them were reinstituted in the New Testament: five in Matt. 19:18,
murder, adultery, stealing, false witness, and honor parents; in Rom.
13:9, coveting; worshiping God properly covers the first three
commandments. The one that was not reaffirmed was the one about the
Sabbath. Instead, Jesus said that He is the Lord of the Sabbath (Matt.
12:8).
Upon the completion of Creation, God rested on the seventh day. However,
since God is all-powerful, He doesn’t get tired. He doesn’t need to
take a break and rest. So, why did/does it say that He rested? The
reason is simple: Mark 2:27
says, "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath." In
other words, God established the Sabbath as a rest for His people--not
because He needed a break but because we are mortal and need a time of
rest--a time to focus on God. In this, our spirits and bodies are both
renewed.
The Old Testament system of Law required keeping the Sabbath as part of
the overall moral, legal, and sacrificial system by which the Jewish
people satisfied God’s requirements for behavior, government, and
forgiveness of sins. The Sabbath was part of the Law in that sense. In
order to "remain" in favor with God, you had to also keep the Sabbath.
If it was not kept, then the person was in sin and would often be
punished (Ezekiel 18:4; Rom. 6:23; Deut. 13:1-9; Num. 35:31; Lev. 20:2, etc.).
But with Jesus’ atonement, we are no longer required to keep the Law. We are not under Law but grace (Rom. 6:14-15).
The Sabbath is fulfilled in Jesus. He is our rest. We are not under
obligation, by Law, to keep it; and this goes for the Sabbath as well.
It is not a requirement that we keep the Sabbath. If it were, then we
would still be under the Law; but we are not.
Evidence of the Change of Days can be Seen in the NT
The New Testament has ample evidence that the seventh day Sabbath is no
longer a requirement.
Rom. 14:5-6, "One man regards one day above another, another regards
every day alike. Let each man be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He
who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does
so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for
the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God."
The entire section of Rom. 14:1-12 is worth careful study. Nevertheless,
the instructions here are that individuals must be convinced in their
own minds about which day they observe for the Lord. If the seventh day
Sabbath were a requirement, then the choice would not be man's but
God’s.
Col. 2:16-17,
"Therefore let no one act as your judge in regard to food or drink or
in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day--17things which
are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to
Christ."
Notice here that time sequence mentioned. A festival is yearly. A new
moon is monthly. A Sabbath is weekly. No one is to judge regarding this.
The Sabbath is defined as a shadow; the reality is Jesus. Jesus is our
Sabbath.
Acts 20:7, "And on the first day of the week, when we were gathered
together to break bread, Paul began talking to them, intending to
depart the next day, and he prolonged his message until midnight."
The first day of the week is Sunday, and this is the day the people
gathered. This passage can easily be seen as the church meeting on
Sunday. It has two important church functions within it: breaking bread
(communion) and a message (preaching). Additionally, Luke did not use
the Jewish system of counting days: sundown to sundown. He used the
Roman system: midnight to midnight. This is a subtle point that shows
the Jewish Sabbath system was not the one utilized by Luke.
1 Cor. 16:1-2, "Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I
directed the churches of Galatia, so do you also. 2 On the first day of
every week let each one of you put aside and save, as he may prosper,
that no collections be made when I come."
Notice here that Paul is directing the churches to meet on the first day
of each week and put money aside. It would seem that this is tithing.
So, the instructed time for the church to meet is Sunday. Is this an
official worship day set up by the church? You decide.
Rev. 1:10-11,
"I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day, and I heard behind me a loud
voice like the sound of a trumpet, 11saying, "Write in a book what you
see, and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus and to Smyrna and to
Pergamum and to Thyatira and to Sardis and to Philadelphia and to
Laodicea."
The New Bible Dictionary says regarding the term, ‘The Lord’s Day’ in
Revelation 1:10:
"This is the first extant occurrence in Christian literature of τῇ
κυριακῇ ἡμέρᾳ, "ta kuriaka hamera." The adjectival construction suggests
that it was a formal designation of the church’s worship day. As such,
it certainly appears early in the 2nd century (Ignatius, Epistle to the
Magnesians, 1. 67).
In many churches today, the term "The Lord’s Day" is used to designate
Sunday--the same as it was in the second century.
I hope this is evidence enough to show you that the Bible does not
require that we worship on Saturday. If anything, we have the freedom
(Rom. 14:1-12) to worship on the day that we believe we should. And, no
one should judge us regarding the day we keep. We are free in Christ and
not under law (Rom. 6:14).
The full video is called "Former Seventh-day Adventist Pastor for 13 Years Gives His Testimony Why Adventism is Wrong" at th-cam.com/video/c37bNhYzdbE/w-d-xo.html . You can also find it on our home page for our TH-cam channel at th-cam.com/users/CAnswersTV, just scroll down to our playlist called, "Dealing with Seventh-day Adventism & Their "Prophetess" & it is the second video shown there. Daniel 8 speaks of 2,300 days in a prophecy concerning a persecution of the Jewish people during the intertestamental period. For a much more detailed explanation click on www.truthorfables.com/2300_Days_by_Vowless.htm . A free written transcript of complete 47 minute video is available at media-cloud.sermonaudio.com/text/79161824122.pdf. Transcripts in over 20 different languages also available at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=79161824122. important websites: www.lifeassuranceministries.com, www.lifeassuranceministries.org, www.FormerAdventist.com, & www.TruthorFables.com. Email: proclamation@gmail.com for free materials.
Larry Wessels, director of Christian Answers of Austin, Texas/ Christian Debater, websites: www.BibleQuery.org, www.HistoryCart.com, & www.MuslimHope.com, email: cdebater@aol.com) is joined in studio by former Seventh Day Adventist pastor Dale Ratzlaff (email: dale@ratzlaf.com) who relates his personal testimony of why he left the Seventh Day Adventist religion & why Ellen G. White is a false prophet.
Dale is author of Sabbath in Christ, The Cultic Doctrine of Seventh-day Adventists, The Truth About the Seventh-day Adventist Truth, and Adventist to Christian. Dale was an Adventist pastor for 13 years, seven of which he spent teaching Bible at Monterey Bay Academy , La Selva Beach, California. During his doctoral studies at Andrews University in the 1980’s, Dale became convinced that the 1844 investigative judgment could not be supported by Scripture. Since he could no longer teach this doctrine, he and his wife Carolyn left the Adventist denomination.
The Seventh-day Adventist doctrine of the investigative judgment and cleansing of the heavenly Sanctuary based upon Daniel 8:14 is indeed the central pillar of the Adventist faith. Some Adventists may disagree; however, it is. Ellen White said, “The scripture which above all others had been both the foundation and central pillar of the Advent faith was the declaration, ‘Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed’.
A recent book by Dr. Roy Adams is subtitled, Understanding the Heart of Adventist Theology, and it confirms this.The Adult Sabbath School Bible Study Guide, 2001, is entitled, Pillars of Our Faith. It includes chapters on “The Sabbath”, “The Heavenly Sanctuary”, “The Hour of God’s Judgment”, “The Remnant”, etc. The last two presidents of the General Conference have both expressed publicly that the Adventist church will not change.
•Ellen G. White said that Daniel 8:14 is the foundation and central pillar of the Advent faith.
•A recent book on the sanctuary by Adventist leader Dr. Roy Adams is subtitled, The heart of Adventist theology.
•A recent Adult Sabbath School Bible Study Guide, entitled, The pillars of our faith includes chapters on the “The Sabbath”, “The Heavenly Sanctuary”, “The Hour of God’s Judgment”, and “The Remnant”. It includes this quotation from Early Writings, p. 263, “Jesus entered the most holy of the heavenly, at the end of the 2300 days of Daniel 8, in 1844, to make final atonement for all who could be benefitted by His mediation, and thus to cleanse the sanctuary.”
•Dr. Roy Gane stated that he was excited to know that Ratzlaff understood that the sanctuary was central to Adventists.
•Dr. Richard Davidson referred to the sanctuary as the heart of doctrine.
•Dr. Angel Rodriguez, professor of theology at the Adventist seminary and associate director of the Adventist Biblical Research Institute, stated forthrightly, “Without 1844 and the doctrine of the Sanctuary ... there is no reason for us to exist. 1844 provided for us our identity and our mission. And if we are wrong, then we are simply wrong.”
We can see that the stakes are high.
There are many, perhaps the majority, of Adventist pastors and Bible teachers who want to run as far away from Daniel 8:14, 1844 and the investigative judgment, and the cleansing of the heavenly sanctuary as possible. Yet the church cannot dismiss this doctrine. This doctrine is not only the central pillar in name, it is the central pillar holding up the whole Adventist identity. That is why the last two General Conference presidents have openly endorsed Ellen White and the sanctuary doctrine. If they were to admit the errors of October 22, 1844, and the investigative judgment as the cleansing of the heavenly sanctuary as taught by Ellen White, then Ellen White would fall as “a continuing and authoritative source of truth”.
You guys should all get Born again and believe in Jesus Christ your salvation and leave all traditions, yield to grace that's only in Jesus Christ.
Amen! 👏🏼💯
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I believe that God doesn’t judge us based on which church we attend whether you’re an Adventist or catholic or presbiterian idk, God gave us bible to guide us throughout this journey. And the bible itself says it all, you people i want you to know that SATAN IS POWERFUL AND THAT HE’S NOT A HUMAN. So dont just listen to what people even EGW says, listen to what God SAID... because it is all written, we just don’t want to open our eyes and ears yet Jesus is soon Coming
I pray that we all prepare for the second coming of JESUS and that we will all be able to see him coming and be with him eternally!.. AMEN
God Judge us by faith or not in Christ. Many denominations teach salvation by works.
I wish that was true but God did not come into the world the judge the world but to save the world however God has one church many branches in different location but one church with one lord one faith one baptism and one God and father of all but the main words you can look at is (One faith) it means we need to believe the same things walking in agrement not having many faiths but one so its wrong to think like that God doesnt work like that
Glad to see my Rwandan sister speak truth
True,
I'm definitely no SDA but in all fairness, there WERE no copyright/plagiarism laws back in EGW's day.
This in not correct. When did copyrights start? History and Education | U.S. Copyright Office May 31, 1790. On May 31, 1790, the first copyright law is enacted under the new United States Constitution. The new law is relatively limited in scope, protecting books, maps, and charts for only 14 years. For more documentation of this click on the following link at www.arl.org/copyright-timeline/ .
@@CAnswersTV Wow, thanks for that.
I got my info from an SDA - Walter Veith.
Guess I was just trying to give him the benefit of the doubt but all settled now! Even though I do feel a bit stupid - my bad 💗
@@time_2_get_ready Walter Veith a scientist .should stick to that
Law or no law plagiarism is plagiarism
God blesses those who seek the truth!
I'm just trying to find a biblical church😢
@Nicole-gm3kq, these days that can be a very difficult task! See our video "Bible Says Most Will Go to Eternal Damnation But a Few Will Receive God's Grace & Go To Eternal Joy" at th-cam.com/video/tlLkoB7yIhU/w-d-xo.html . Question: "What factors should one consider when trying to find a good local church?" Hebrews 10:25, "Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching."
Answer: When trying to find a good local church, it’s good to remember that, just like the people in them, no church is perfect. However, there are many important issues that should be considered when choosing a church. Some people live close to only a few churches, and their choices will be limited, but for others there are many more options. Be sure to pray about the churches you’re considering, to be sure you’re following the Lord’s leading as you search. Begin your search online, or in a local phone book, to see all of your options. Be especially sure to read a church’s doctrinal statement or statement of belief to find out about their stance on important issues. If from this initial research a church seems to be good and solid, visit the church (including small groups or Sunday schools classes) several weeks while prayerfully considering whether to join as a member. Listed below are some important things you should consider in your search to find a church.
1. What is being preached and taught? The Bible is clear that we should only listen to those who preach the true gospel of Jesus Christ (Galatians 1:6-9). If any other message is being given in its place, then it is not a Christ-following church and you should move on to another one (Ephesians 1:22; 4:15, Colossians 1:18). The church should be speaking God’s truth as given to us through His inspired Word, the Bible (2 Timothy 3:15-17). The truth of the gospel is that we are sinners (Romans 3:23), that we need a savior, and that Jesus is the only way of salvation (Romans 6:23, Ephesians 2:8-9). The gospel, as well as all the other teachings of the Bible, should be taught accurately and consistently. Besides the message of salvation, churches vary when it comes to their views on the Trinity, the authority of the Bible, eternal security, free will, God’s sovereignty, election of the saints, eschatology (beliefs about the end times), and other theological issues. These are all important issues that we should seek to understand, and, as much as we are able, we should choose a church based on the beliefs we have about these and other church doctrines.
If you don’t know where you stand on these issues, you should try to find a church that emphasizes and teaches that the Bible is God’s inspired word and that believes in God’s sovereignty. God’s sovereignty is seen in the fact that God is lovingly and powerfully in control of all of history, and working in all our lives to ensure His plan is carried out in every detail and in His perfect ways (though often not understood by us). Avoid a church where you’re told that God only wants happiness, good health, success, and wealth for you; the Bible says that, as Christians, we should expect persecution and suffering for the cause of Christ (Matthew 5). God uses our pain to encourage others and to grow us. While God desires us to be happy, He is more concerned with our holiness than our temporal happiness.
2. Is the church a place of fellowship and community? The early church of Acts 2:42-47 “devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. Everyone was filled with awe, and many wonders and miraculous signs were done by the apostles. All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need. Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread [Holy Communion] together with glad and sincere hearts, praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved." Fellowship should indeed include the observance of God’s ordinances for the church-communion (the Lord’s Supper) and believers’ baptism (Acts 2:38). Also, the church you choose should be welcoming to all. We should welcome sinners yet speak the truth to them about their sin. The people of the church should be committed to encouraging one another to grow in Christ (1 Thessalonians 5:11). Sometimes it’s hard to find a church where people don’t just show up on Sunday, but instead truly invest in each others’ lives. Part of this investment is seen in how active and important Sunday school classes, community groups, small groups, youth groups, and other support groups are within the church. If you are a parent, it is especially important that your children find an enjoyable and meaningful group to join during the formative years of their lives. Many kids don’t have Christian friends at their schools and desperately need this peer influence in their lives (Ephesians 6:4). While married couples are usually abundant in churches, it can be more difficult for people in other life stages to connect in some churches. If you are single, divorced, widowed, or have been abused, look for churches that include others who are in the same stage or experience as you.
3. Is the church focused on reaching out to others, outside the church, with the message of the gospel and practical service? Christ commanded us to carry the gospel to the ends of the earth, to all unreached peoples (Matthew 28:19-20). The church should be leading its members in this, preparing them to share the gospel with their neighbors and supporting or even leading local or international missions trips. We should be caring for the poor, the widowed, and everyone whom we can help (James 1:22-27, 1 Peter 4:10). Some churches don’t have the resources to reach out to the community with formal groups, but the individuals in the church should be volunteering in the community and serving their neighbors, on their own or with friends. Be sure to also look for a place to serve within your church.
4. Does the style of music fit with your taste or preferences? The older hymns are often rich with truth and important doctrines that can bolster our faith, and there are also many newer songs and choruses that are uplifting and encouraging. The purpose of music in a church should be to lead the people closer to the Lord in worship and adoration. Many of us are used to one style of music as opposed to another, just out of habit or childhood experiences. While music style should be taken into consideration, it should not be the deciding factor in finding a good church.
5. Best choices: 1.Try doing an internet search for Reformed Baptist churches in your area & see what comes up & go visit (there's not that many of them out there but I believe Reformed Baptists are the closest to what the Bible actually teaches doctrinally - farese.com/ ). 2. If that doesn't work try a Bible believing Baptist church but they can easily be filled with all the problems you have already been experiencing so you must be discerning in what each Baptist church you come across is doing (there can be the good, the bad & the ugly so be careful). 3. If that doesn't work try a "Bible Church" but you'll have to investigate what their doctrinal statement is in each case. 4. If that doesn't work you could try an Orthodox Presbyterian Church but I really don't like their stand on infant baptism & their form of covenant theology (for more on this see our video "The Faulty Presuppositions of Dispensationalism & Covenant Theology (Including Infant Baptism)" at th-cam.com/video/bkUzH914IzM/w-d-xo.html). 5. Anything beyond these options & you're getting into real danger of doctrinal error from false prophets. Beware of Pentecostal & Charismatic churches - see our video series starting with "Blasphemous Charismatic & Pentecostal Mayhem #1: Mad Delusional Experiences Replace Scripture Alone" at th-cam.com/video/Kbv7YsyMf0I/w-d-xo.html
6. If all else fails you are always welcome to participate in our live streaming of our Sunday service by way of your computer on our website to my home church at dsf.org/ or through SermonAudio at www.sermonaudio.com/source_detail.asp?sourceid=dayspringaustin . You could have sort of a Reformed Baptist house church by way of your available computer technology.
Matthew 7:15, "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."
@@CAnswersTV Thank you so much for your wisdom and guidance! I will keep searching 🙏
For more on the "Three Angels" see our video "Did God Really Give Ellen G. White "Divine" Health Reform Visions From Book of Revelation Angels?" at th-cam.com/video/nhKoS2Fk1Y4/w-d-xo.html & see www.truthorfables.com/EGW_Health_Reform.htm. For her "Everlasting Gospel" see our video "Truth About Seventh-Day
Adventist "Truth?": A False Gospel of Imperfect Law Keeping to Earn Heaven" at th-cam.com/video/7EsY1srHYJc/w-d-xo.html & www.TruthorFables.com. Matthew 7:15
For much more on this see our video "Is Sabbath Keeping Essential to Be a Real Christian? Former SDA Pastor Answers This Question" at th-cam.com/video/w0L3rSSL_H8/w-d-xo.html. I’ve always thought this was a very interesting verse: “he not only had broken the sabbath….” John 5:18. Here we are told by the Apostle John that Jesus Christ “had broken the sabbath.” That is because in John 5:17 Jesus himself said that he works on the Sabbath - “But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.” His work was that of healing the sick.
So Jesus confessed to working on the Sabbath, thus he “had broken the sabbath” and consequently the Jews sought to kill him.
But we know that Jesus Christ never sinned. It was not a sin for Jesus to work on the sabbath. How can that be? How can it be that Jesus Christ broke the sabbath and never sinned?
The answer is the difference between the letter of the law and the spirit of the law. While the letter of the law forbids working on the sabbath, the spirit of the law is love. Love is the fulfillment of the law. And for Jesus to work on the sabbath by healing the sick, he was violating the letter of the law but fulfilling the spirit of the law.
The pharisees falsely accused Jesus Christ of sinning because they were legalistic and stuck on the letter of the law that they completely forgot what the law was all about - the good of people through love. The sabbath was instituted for man’s good, not so that men like Jesus could not help men by healing. As Jesus said, “Then said Jesus unto them, I will ask you one thing; Is it lawful on the sabbath days to do good, or to do evil? to save life, or to destroy it?” Luke 6:9
The letter of the law forbids all work on the sabbath and yet the spirit of the law would allow and even demand that Doctors, Police, Pastors, Street Preachers, etc, would work on the Sabbath. It is about love - the spirit of the law, not the letter of the law. But when anyone so pushes the letter of the law to the violation of the spirit of the law, they fall into the trap of legalism and commit the sins of the Pharisees.
Jesus Christ broke the sabbath by working and yet did not sin for the same reason that David did that which was not lawful and how the priests profane the sabbath yet were blameless:
“But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him; How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests? Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?” Matt. 12:3-5 See also our video "Sabbath Keeping Is Not Required For New Testament Christians: Seventh-Day Adventists Beware" at th-cam.com/video/TEFt4TOR6E8/w-d-xo.html.
1 Peter 3:15
This is Why We Must Spend More Time with Our Lord Yeshua Jesus in Prayer and Reading His Word to Know Him Even More!
The wicked hate the wrath, justice & judgment of a Holy God. Get an in-depth study of the Biblical Doctrine of Hell besides videos on our playlist "Dealing with Hell, Lake of Fire, Unpopular Bible Doctrines" at
th-cam.com/play/PLE04A1D0DFE95B95E.html by going to "Eternal Punishment, Part 1" at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=12607145320 & "Eternal Punishment, Part 2" at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=12607143539 by A.W. Pink. Great preaching on this subject can be found at "Heaven & Hell" by Charles Haddon Spurgeon at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=8702112616 & "The Sinner's End, Hell Opens Wide Her Jaws, the Sinner Falls To Destruction, Spurgeon" at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=1014131452290; "A Few Sighs From Hell" by John Bunyan at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=112903233617; "The Eternity of Hell Torments" by George Whitefield at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=11307232342; Men Don't Regard Warnings of Future Punishment As Hell Doesn't Seem Real - Edwards" at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=1031121125362, "The Torments of Hell Are Exceeding Great, A Rich Man Went to Hell and Was Tormented" at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=51513154140, "They That Are Gone to Hell Are All of Them in Despair, Eternal Damnation by Edwards" at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=219131311338 & "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God" at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=113003134610 by Jonathan Edwards, "God's Hell" by John Wagner at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=6501212239; "A Tour of Hell" by E.A. Johnston at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=7251216250; other great Biblical messages about the doctrine of Hell can be found at www.sermonaudio.com/search.asp?currSection=sermonstopic&keyworddesc=Hell&keyword=hell.
See our newsletter on Hell with plenty of Biblical references on our website www.biblequery.org/ (once
on the homepage click on the "experience" box to the left then scroll
down to the newsletter section & click on "Turn or Burn."
The wicked hate the Biblical doctrine of Hell & will create any myth
to pretend it is not real or eternal in the conscious divine punishment
of the damned. "Be not deceived, GOD IS NOT MOCKED: For whatsover a man
soweth, that shall he also reap" (Galations 6:7). "VENGEANCE IS MINE; I
WILL REPAY SAITH THE LORD" (Rom. 12:19).
"Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and
sin, and THAT WILL BY NO MEANS CLEAR THE GUILTY" (Exodus 34:7). Jesus
said, "It would have been good for that man if he had not been born"
(Matthew 26:24).
Why would Jesus say this if there wasn't something far worse waiting
for that man after this life is over? Interestingly enough, over the
years many atheists have flocked to our TH-cam hell videos with unusual
curiosity. Why do they bother if they don't think it is real?
2 Timothy 2:15
See our videos "Is Sabbath Keeping Essential to Be a Real Christian? Former SDA Pastor Answers This Question" at th-cam.com/video/w0L3rSSL_H8/w-d-xo.html, "Sabbath Keeping Is Not Required For New Testament Christians: Seventh-Day Adventists Beware" at th-cam.com/video/TEFt4TOR6E8/w-d-xo.html & "KEEPING THE OLD TESTAMENT LAWS & COMMANDMENTS CANNOT EARN HEAVEN OR SALVATION WITH GOD!" at th-cam.com/video/aIh3T31ujuU/w-d-xo.html. See also www.scribd.com/doc/110229267/Sabbatismos-the-Sabbath-under-the-Gospel.
John 5:8 Jesus said to him, “Get up, take up your bed, and walk.” 9 And
at once the man was healed, and he took up his bed and walked. Now that
day was the Sabbath. 10 So the Jews said to the man who had been healed,
“It is the Sabbath, and it is not lawful for you to take up your
bed.” 11 But he answered them, “The man who healed me, that man said to
me, ‘Take up your bed, and walk.’” 12 They asked him, “Who is the man
who said to you, ‘Take up your bed and walk’?” 13 Now the man who had
been healed did not know who it was, for Jesus had withdrawn, as there
was a crowd in the place. 14 Afterward Jesus found him in the temple and
said to him, “See, you are well! Sin no more, that nothing worse may
happen to you.” 15 The man went away and told the Jews that it was Jesus
who had healed him. 16 And this was why the Jews were persecuting
Jesus, because he was doing these things on the Sabbath. 17 But Jesus
answered them, “My Father is working until now, and I am
working.” 18 This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill
him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even
calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
Response:
Scripture plainly states that the Jewish leaders were upset with Jesus
for breaking the Sabbath, not that they were upset with Him because they
thought He was breaking the Sabbath. Concluding that Scripture doesn’t
always mean quite what it says begins a dangerous and slippery slope
that ends with ourselves, rather than Scripture, as the final
authority.
Jesus didn’t claim that He wasn’t working on the Sabbath. Instead, He
compared His work with the fact that the Father was working. It is not a
sin, it does not break any commandment, for God to work on the Sabbath.
But what about Jesus instructing the man to carry his bed? This also
broke the Sabbath Law (and not just the added Rabbinical Laws as
Adventism claims).
Jer 17:21
Thus says the Lord, “Take heed for yourselves, and do not carry any
load on the sabbath day or bring anything in through the gates of
Jerusalem. 22 You shall not bring a load out of your houses on the
sabbath day nor do any work, but keep the sabbath day holy, as I
commanded your forefathers. … 27 But if you do not listen to Me to keep
the sabbath day holy by not carrying a load and coming in through the
gates of Jerusalem on the sabbath day, then I will kindle a fire in its
gates and it will devour the palaces of Jerusalem and not be quenched.”
The only realistic explanation is understanding that this law was a
shadow pointing to Christ. Since the Light had arrived, the purpose of
the shadow was completed. Jesus’ rest was available during His ministry
and intensified when the New Covenant was fully ushered in. Jesus was
establishing the teachings of this Covenant before His death, including
His commandments.
Jesus defended His non-observance of the Sabbath by pointing out that
this shadow didn’t apply to Him. He is Lord of the Sabbath, and He (like
His Father) is working all the time. That explains His actions on the
Sabbath, but having the man carry the load on the Sabbath seems to
require that the shadow was fading away in light of the arrival and
teaching of the Lord.Should our desire to follow Jesus’ example
translate into Sabbath-keeping? I’d like to highlight a couple of points
about how Jesus related to the rituals of his day. First, when he
touched lepers to heal them, he became unclean himself. Though he sent
these men to the priests to re-establish their “cleanness,” there is no
record of him going through the cleansing rituals himself. When touched
by the woman who had been bleeding for years on the way to Jairus’
house, and then later when he held Jairus’ daughter by the hand and
raised her from the dead-these were both situations where he was made
ritually unclean. This did not concern Jesus, of course. He had a much
higher purpose, and was soon to make this statement,
“Nothing outside a man can make him unclean by going into him. Rather,
it is what comes out of a man that makes him unclean…Don’t you see that
nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him ‘unclean’? For
it doesn’t go into his heart, but into his stomach, and then out of his
body. (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods ‘clean.’) He went on:
What comes out of a man is what makes him ‘unclean.’ For from within,
out of men’s hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft,
murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander,
arrogance, and folly. All these evils come from inside and make a man
‘unclean.’” Mark 7:14-23.
There are several implications from this passage. Jesus is showing that
ritual law is being superceded by the eternal principles on which they
were based. The Christian, reading these writings, realizes that the
Jewish practices of cleansing, though clearly mandated in the books of
the Law, are now irrelevant since Jesus became the complete revelation
to which the Law and its rituals were pointing. The cleansing rituals,
once learned, were actually so much easier to follow than the standard
Jesus set. Instead of ritual purification, the Christian is called to
clean living through his/her actions. Several of the principles
contained in the commandments are mentioned (though not Sabbath-keeping,
or even worship). But others (malice, lewdness, slander, and arrogance)
while not addressed in the 10 commandments, are still clearly “unclean”
behavior. That sexual immorality and lewdness go beyond simple adultery
is clear, as they are mentioned in addition to adultery. It is clear
that the principles contained within the 10 commandments are more
important than ever, but are only the beginning of the lifestyle we will
try to live through the Spirit and the grace of God. The critical
distinction will become clear in Romans and is this: Our salvation is
not dependent on us achieving that lifestyle. Rather it is based on
Jesus who successfully lived that life in our place. Our gratitude and
love is what motivates us as Christians to follow in his example. Lastly
from this verse, the groundwork is laid for setting aside the system of
clean and unclean foods. Paul will later quote from this scripture in
making the same case when discussing clean and unclean meats. More on
this later.
My point from the previous paragraph is that Jesus, while living in a
Jewish society, growing up as a Jewish boy in the usual ways
(circumcised, law-school, etc.), would begin to move his followers out
of Jewish methods of religion and worship. The very Laws he gave to
Moses, he would take the liberty of setting aside. Besides the
uncleanness discussed above, there was the harvesting of grain while
passing through the field by his disciples on the Sabbath. This was
clearly a violation of Sabbath law, but Jesus justifies it using an
example of David violating a different ritual aspect of the same law,
but who obviously received God’s blessing. Jesus is elevating his
listeners, early Christians, and you and me, to principles above and
beyond the law. What Jesus is doing in this passage (John 5:16-18) is
using the Sabbath to teach them something about himself. You cannot
separate these verses from the broader theology of John and what John is
setting out to do. Jesus is not teaching us about the Sabbath, as we
typically hear on these stories of Sabbath healings. Jesus is teaching
us something about himself. I can say that with confidence because it is
all over this story. Jesus makes the point that God works on the
Sabbath (and no one is calling God a law breaker - John 5:17),
so when Jesus works on the Sabbath he can break the Law of Moses
because He and God are the same. Jesus point is not about the Sabbath.
Jesus is using the Sabbath as an opportunity to teach them something
about his identity. We are not called to have faith in the Sabbath but
faith in Christ. We often miss the forest for the trees on this one and
get all caught up on the Sabbath rather than on the Lord of the Sabbath.
Often this point is entirely missed because we are unaware or
unconcerned with the broader theology of the Gospel of John that this
fits so well into.
Sabbatarians enjoy pointing to Jesus as our example to keep the Sabbath.
Is this a valid argument? If we are to follow Jesus' examples of how he
lived under the old covenant, should consider this?
Death can come suddenly & unexpectedly. Hear deathbed testimonies of the damned during their last days, hours & moments before going into eternity: "Horrifying & Terrifying Death Bed Scenes Of Atheists, Apostates & Reprobates (1/3)" at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?sid=731131047310, "Horrifying & Terrifying Death Bed Scenes Of Atheists, Apostates & Reprobates (2/3)" at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?sid=731131111372, "Horrifying & Terrifying Death Bed Scenes Of Atheists, Apostates & Reprobates (3/3)" at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?sid=731131132150, "Death-Bed of a Free-Thinker, Exemplified in the Last Hours of Hon. Francis Newport" at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?sid=72913130359, "Death-Bed Scenes, Death-Bed Repentance Rarely Occurs, As Men Live, So Do Men Die #1" at
www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?sid=927131122460, "Death-Bed Scenes, Death-Bed Repentance Rarely Occurs, As Men Live, So Do Men Die #2" at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?sid=927131158132;
"Dying Testimonies Of The Unsaved, The Awful Death Of An Infidel Son Who Hated Jesus" at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?sid=104131120148,
& although this next recording is not an actual deathbed
testimonial it is highly informative concerning Judas & other
reprobates, "The Repentance of Judas, or, the Lamentable Effects of a
Startled Conscience" at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?sid=310141542316.
Listeners will notice numerous similar patterns among the final words
& actions of the damned. Many seem to sense the flames of hell &
the presence of demonic entities before death overtakes them. An
excellent Biblical analysis of eternal punishment in hell & the lake
of fire is given by the outstanding theologian A.W. Pink - "Eternal
Punishment, part 1" at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=12607145320 & "Eternal Punishment, part 2" at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?sid=12607143539 where
he at the same time refutes the arguments of universalists,
annihilationists & heretics who say God is "all loving" & would
not torment the wicked forever while they ignore the fact that God hates
the wicked (Psalm 5:4-6, 11:5, Hosea 9:15, etc.; see our video "The God of the Bible Does Not Love Everybody But Actually Hates Many Instead (Romans 9:22)" at th-cam.com/video/0zHEJCHgQVg/w-d-xo.html).
Hear also Charles Haddon Spurgeon on this subject in his sermon "The
Sinner's End, Hell Opens Wide Her Jaws, the Sinner Falls To Destruction"
at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=1014131452290 & Jonathan Edward's famous sermon "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God" at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=113003134610.
Besides all this readers can click on our playlist "Dealing with Hell,
Lake of Fire, Unpopular Bible Doctrines" with 30 videos & 31 hours
of teaching material at th-cam.com/play/PLE04A1D0DFE95B95E.html.
Don't depend on a last second deathbed conversion to save you from the
wrath of a holy God. Come to the Biblical Jesus Christ today for
salvation in repentance & faith (2 Corinthians 6:2, "behold, now is
the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation; Acts 16:31, "And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved;" Mark 1:15,
"The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye,
and believe the gospel;" 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, "Moreover, brethren, I
declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you
received and in which you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you
hold fast that word which I preached to you-unless you believed in vain.
3 For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that
Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was
buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the
Scriptures," Revelation 1:8, Jesus is the "Alpha and Omega, the
beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and
which is to come, the Almighty.", Revelation 1:18,
Jesus says "I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive
for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death." Becoming a
true Christian is not easy therefore count the cost. Becoming a true
Christian is not saying a quick prayer & thinking you're okay.
Becoming a true Christian is not getting water baptized as a baby or as
an adult (see our video "IS WATER BAPTISM NECESSARY TO ESCAPE HELL &
BE SAVED & ARE YOU "BORN AGAIN" (JOHN 3:3-8) BY IT?" at th-cam.com/video/wYJtMV9qrWg/w-d-xo.html. You must be supernaturally "born again" by a sovereign act of God through the power of the Holy Spirit (John 1:12-13, 3:3-8; Titus 3:5-7; John 6:37, 39, 44, 63, 65; Ephesians 3:16-21; Romans 8:1-17; 1 Corinthians 2:10-16; Luke 14:26-35,
“If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife
and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he
cannot be My disciple. 27 And whoever does not bear his cross and come
after Me cannot be My disciple. 28 For which of you, intending to build a
tower, does not sit down first and count the cost, whether he has
enough to finish it- 29 lest, after he has laid the foundation, and is
not able to finish, all who see it begin to mock him, 30 saying, ‘This
man began to build and was not able to finish’? 31 Or what king, going
to make war against another king, does not sit down first and consider
whether he is able with ten thousand to meet him who comes against him
with twenty thousand? 32 Or else, while the other is still a great way
off, he sends a delegation and asks conditions of peace. 33 So likewise,
whoever of you does not forsake all that he has cannot be My
disciple.34 “Salt is good; but if the salt has lost its flavor, how
shall it be seasoned? 35 It is neither fit for the land nor for the
dunghill, but men throw it out. He who has ears to hear, let him
hear!” Luke 6:46,
Jesus said, "And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things
which I say?" Becoming a true Christian will change your life forever
in this life & the next (2 Corinthians 5:17,
"Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things
have passed away; behold, all things have become new."). Beg God to save
you since you cannot get into heaven by your own righteousness &
good works (Ephesians 2:8-10, "8 For by grace you have been saved
through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not
of works, lest anyone should boast. 10 For we are His workmanship,
created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand
that we should walk in them."). Keep begging God for salvation through
Jesus Christ until the day comes that He grants your request (Acts 13:48,
"Now when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the
word of the Lord. And as many as had been appointed to eternal life
believed." & 2 Timothy 2:25-26,
"24 And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all,
able to teach, patient, 25 in humility correcting those who are in
opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may
know the truth, 26 and that they may come to their senses and escape the
snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will.").
When you are supernaturally regenerated by the Holy Spirit you will
know it & suddenly have the power to repent of your evil ways &
for the first time you will actually love God more than your own life
knowing that nothing in creation is more important than God alone. You
will then spend the rest of eternity loving, serving & praising God
for He is worthy. John 14:6, "Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the
truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." See
our video "IS JESUS GOD ALMIGHTY IN THE FLESH MEANING THE SECOND PERSON
OF THE TRINITY OR IS HE SOMETHING ELSE?" at th-cam.com/video/_BlPm7M7uv8/w-d-xo.html.
Is he right or wrong?
It would be foolish to believe them or him without studying for yourself 📖
Chalk Key - Very good advice to the uninformed. Unfortunately most people are under religious delusions & therefore don't do the research as you are recommending thus such people are under the curse found in 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 which says, " Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."
Some of the best research against Seventh-day Adventism comes from former SDA members who have been on both sides of this 19th century new religion begun by Ellen White & her associates after having done much study either way thus they are the best informed. For more on that see the following websites by former SDA members such as: www.lifeassuranceministries.org/ , www.formeradventist.com/ , www.exadventist.com/ , www.sabbathinchrist.com/ , & www.truthorfables.com/ . Email: proclamation@gmail.com for free materials.
The following is an example of an exchange I had with a SDA member - Someone on TH-cam commented, "I am still an SDA but my faith is not in SDA lies doctrines, I am more of Jesus as my personal Sabbath Rest not the teaching of EGW."
My answer to this comment - "If you are still in the SDA religious cult created in the 1800s then you must believe in the SDA Jesus or else why be in the SDA religion at all, right? The SDA Jesus is not the same Jesus as the Biblical Jesus. Since you claim to be a Seventh-day Adventist then your SDA Jesus is not the final sin bearer for sinners but Satan is, see www.truthorfables.com/Scapegoat.htm & our video "Cult Doctrine of Seventh-day Adventism: 1844 Probation & Satan As A Final Sin Bearer for Adventists" at th-cam.com/video/J50HlZFYHtY/w-d-xo.html . Thus you have a phony Jesus who gives the glory for sin bearing to the Devil rather than being the sin bearer himself - what a blasphemy for which you & your SDA religion are guilty!
Your SDA Jesus is confused as to who he is. SDAs mistakingly confuse Jesus with the archangel Michael - see www.truthorfables.com/Is_Michael_Christ.htm . Many cults and "isms" hold to the mistaken view that Jesus in the Old Testament is Michael the Archangel, especially the Seventh-day Adventists and the Jehovah's Witnesses. Jehovah's Witnesses must hold this view of Jesus in order to justify their Arian view of the Trinity and justify their disbelief in Jesus as eternal deity and creator of all things. All early Adventists and many, if not most even today, hold to the doctrine that Jesus is the Archangel Michael in the Old Testament. Ellen G. White, the founder of Adventism, was more than a little confused about her view of the nature of the Lord Jesus. She was clearly and deliberately confused, vague, and contradictory about her stance on Jesus as being the uncreated creator of all things. It is without dispute that she taught that Michael the Archangel was indeed the pre-incarnate Christ, and that "God raised him to equality with Himself." There seems to be general denial of her views among most, if not all faithful Adventists who consider themselves Trinitarian, but most, if not all, still see Jesus as the Archangel Michael. Some would say that this is simply a role Jesus played in the Old Testament, even though He was not a created angel. The Biblical evidence is to the contrary on both counts. Still in their current claim to be thoroughly orthodox in their view of the Trinity, some SDAs are still not clear and their view is more of that of a "Heavenly Trio" in contrast to the traditional orthodox Biblical view.
In addition to the Lord Jesus never being identified by any of the authors of Scripture as Michael the Archangel, he is never seen as anyone but a ranking servant and messenger among the created servants of God. When individuals met the Angel of the Lord, they were well aware they had encountered God - Genesis 16:7-12; 21:17-18; 22:11-18; Exodus 3:2; Judges 2:1-4; 5:23; 6:11-24; 13:3-22; 2 Samuel 24:16; Zechariah 1:12; 3:1; 12:8 (see the video "Biblical Doctrine of Good & Evil Angels/Finding Jesus Foretold Throughout the Old Testament" at th-cam.com/video/M_nGtBfrHG8/w-d-xo.html ). Never did a meeting with any of the angels result in such a reaction. Never did anyone ever ascribe deity at any level when meeting Michael the Archangel. For more Biblical information see the video "Is Jesus God Almighty in the Flesh Meaning the Second Person of the Trinity or Is He Something Else?" at th-cam.com/video/_BlPm7M7uv8/w-d-xo.html .
The "Jesus" you believe in is a false "Jesus" & that is why I took the time to show some things above about your SDA "Jesus" to thus prove that even your premise of using "Jesus" in your comment is faulty. Even you admit that the SDA is "lies" yet you stay in a false religion, why?? Please see the following link called "Why remain a Seventh-day Adventist" at www.truthorfables.com/Why_Remain_SDA.htm . Not only does the SDA have a false "Jesus" but a false gospel as well which will damn your soul (Galatians 1:6-9). For more see our playlist called " Dealing with Seventh-day Adventism & Their "Prophetess" with 54 videos at th-cam.com/play/PL5316CC6F66F24283.html .
2 Corinthians 11:4, "For if one comes and preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted, you bear this beautifully."
With all due respect to your view, but what I said at first is still unchangeable. Because there is always more than one side to a coin, everyone needs to study for themself.
If I wanted to learn about Islam or Christianity, my foundation wouldn't be strong and wise if I first learnt from a person that has left (and may have grievances)
Every student must study without any bias.
We cannot be fully nourished by what others regurgitate, we must eat for ourselves. 🍞
@@chalkkey433 - The problem with your analysis is that you are forgetting what the Bible teaches about the state of a person who has not been regenerated by the Holy Spirit of God. Thus your statement "Every student must study without any bias." is totally false from the Biblical perspective. Everyone approaches any subject with a "bias" already there. There is a reason Jesus said "You must be born again." in John 3:3-8. Spiritual rebirth refers to the new life a person finds when he or she becomes a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ. This concept is also referred to as “salvation,” “regeneration,” or being “born again.” It is obvious that you have not understood this matter based on your comment here. The reason anyone living who has not been supernaturally born again cannot understand the things of God is because the Bible clearly states that's the case in 1 Corinthians 2:14, "The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned."
The point made in this verse is crucial in our understanding of spiritualty, and how to interact with the non-believing world. In short, non-believers cannot be expected to think, or to act, like believers. The problem is not intellectual or moral; reason and evidence point towards God (Psalm 19:1; Romans 1:18-23). The key difference is spiritual: those who are not guided by the Holy Spirit, thanks to faith in Christ, simply lack a godly spiritual perspective.
The only way to be believe the truths of God, including His plan for salvation through faith in Christ, is for God to communicate those truths through His Holy Spirit. Paul's work is to help people who have been given that spiritual ability to believe to understand what it means, but he knows that he cannot make anyone believe it. Intellectual knowledge and human reason cannot produce faith-at best, they can only impart facts (James 2:19).
Now Paul shows the negative. Those without God's Spirit cannot possibly "get it." God's truths must be understood and believed on a spiritual level. Those without God's Spirit don't have that level, Paul insists. Like a radio, television, or microphone tuned to the wrong signal, they are literally incapable of receiving that message.
So the natural person rejects as foolish anything that comes from the Spirit of God. Those who have only their human senses and human reason will never be able to comprehend the spiritual truths of God's revelation about sin, salvation, and Christ to His people. It's unreasonable to expect non-believers to process spiritual issues in the same way as believers. It's impossible to expect them to have the "mind of Christ" (1 Corinthians 2:16) when they don't have the Spirit of God.
Before spiritual rebirth, all humans are slaves to sin (John 8:34) and spiritually dead in their trespasses (Colossians 2:13). When Adam and Eve disobeyed God in the Garden of Eden, they brought sin and death into the world. Every one of their descendants is cursed with a sin nature-a desire to live contrary to God’s will. As we are all descendants of Adam and Eve, we all live under the same curse (Romans 3:23) and deserve death as punishment (6:23). To save us from the curse, Christ Jesus came from heaven to live on earth as the perfect God-man and die a painful death on a cross, taking upon Himself the punishment we all deserve. He then conquered death by rising from the grave three days later. After His ascension back to heaven, Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to live in all who put their faith in Him. The entrance of the Holy Spirit into a soul is what brings about the spiritual rebirth of that person.
When the Pharisee Nicodemus visited Jesus one night, Jesus informed him that, in order to see the kingdom of God, he must be born again (John 3:3). This was a concept that Nicodemus was unable to grasp, to Jesus’ surprise. Jesus explained further: “Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You must be born again.’ . . . Do you not understand these things? . . . For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life” (John 3:6-7, 10, 16). In saying that Nicodemus must be born again, Jesus was telling him that he must go through spiritual rebirth-he must start a new life in the Spirit-before he could enter God’s kingdom.
Jesus is the only way to forgiveness for sin and spiritual rebirth (John 14:6; Acts 4:12). When we put our faith and trust in Jesus Christ, His sacrificial death, and His resurrection, we pass from death to life; our sins are forgiven, and we are spiritually reborn. We are no longer slaves to sin (Romans 6:18). At the moment of salvation, the Holy Spirit enters the believer, and “the Spirit gives life” (John 6:63). The Spirit remains in us as a deposit guaranteeing our salvation (Ephesians 1:13-14) and as a guide for the new life of spiritual rebirth (John 16:13; Romans 8:14; Galatians 5:25). “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here!” (2 Corinthians 5:17).
@@chalkkey433 if you are true to your heart and study the work of EGW you will find that it is contrary to the gospel. She is not a prophet and her words are not authorative as adventists rever it to be.
Chalk Key
Islam is a tool of lucifer
Can somebody please explain to me why the pastor said that he will not look at Ellen White's books for six months (time stamp: 9:13), instead of not looking at them at all?
This is just a short 10 minute clip from the full length video it came from "Former Seventh-day Adventist Pastor for 13 Years Gives His Testimony Why Adventism is Wrong" at th-cam.com/video/c37bNhYzdbE/w-d-xo.html . This short video ended right at the point you are asking about so the full length video will pick where this clip ended & most likely answer your question. Keeping old cultic literature is also a good way to expose cultic literature for what it is compared to the Bible particularly if you are going to write books showing how false SDA teachings are. You can also find other videos against Adventism at "Dealing with Seventh-day Adventism & Their "Prophetess" with 64 videos at th-cam.com/play/PL5316CC6F66F24283.html . Important websites: www.lifeassuranceministries.com, www.lifeassuranceministries.org, www.FormerAdventist.com, & www.TruthorFables.com. Email: proclamation@gmail.com for free materials.
Larry Wessels, director of Christian Answers of Austin, Texas/ Christian Debater, websites: www.BibleQuery.org, www.HistoryCart.com, & www.MuslimHope.com, email: cdebater@aol.com) is joined in studio by former Seventh Day Adventist pastor Dale Ratzlaff (email: dale@ratzlaf.com) who relates his personal testimony of why he left the Seventh Day Adventist religion & why Ellen G. White is a false prophet.
Dale is author of Sabbath in Christ, The Cultic Doctrine of Seventh-day Adventists, The Truth About the Seventh-day Adventist Truth, and Adventist to Christian. Dale was an Adventist pastor for 13 years, seven of which he spent teaching Bible at Monterey Bay Academy , La Selva Beach, California. During his doctoral studies at Andrews University in the 1980’s, Dale became convinced that the 1844 investigative judgment could not be supported by Scripture. Since he could no longer teach this doctrine, he and his wife Carolyn left the Adventist denomination.
The Seventh-day Adventist doctrine of the investigative judgment and cleansing of the heavenly Sanctuary based upon Daniel 8:14 is indeed the central pillar of the Adventist faith. Some Adventists may disagree; however, it is. Ellen White said, “The scripture which above all others had been both the foundation and central pillar of the Advent faith was the declaration, ‘Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed’.
A recent book by Dr. Roy Adams is subtitled, Understanding the Heart of Adventist Theology, and it confirms this.The Adult Sabbath School Bible Study Guide, 2001, is entitled, Pillars of Our Faith. It includes chapters on “The Sabbath”, “The Heavenly Sanctuary”, “The Hour of God’s Judgment”, “The Remnant”, etc. The last two presidents of the General Conference have both expressed publicly that the Adventist church will not change.
•Ellen G. White said that Daniel 8:14 is the foundation and central pillar of the Advent faith.
•A recent book on the sanctuary by Adventist leader Dr. Roy Adams is subtitled, The heart of Adventist theology.
•A recent Adult Sabbath School Bible Study Guide, entitled, The pillars of our faith includes chapters on the “The Sabbath”, “The Heavenly Sanctuary”, “The Hour of God’s Judgment”, and “The Remnant”. It includes this quotation from Early Writings, p. 263, “Jesus entered the most holy of the heavenly, at the end of the 2300 days of Daniel 8, in 1844, to make final atonement for all who could be benefitted by His mediation, and thus to cleanse the sanctuary.”
•Dr. Roy Gane stated that he was excited to know that Ratzlaff understood that the sanctuary was central to Adventists.
•Dr. Richard Davidson referred to the sanctuary as the heart of doctrine.
•Dr. Angel Rodriguez, professor of theology at the Adventist seminary and associate director of the Adventist Biblical Research Institute, stated forthrightly, “Without 1844 and the doctrine of the Sanctuary ... there is no reason for us to exist. 1844 provided for us our identity and our mission. And if we are wrong, then we are simply wrong.”
We can see that the stakes are high.
There are many, perhaps the majority, of Adventist pastors and Bible teachers who want to run as far away from Daniel 8:14, 1844 and the investigative judgment, and the cleansing of the heavenly sanctuary as possible. Yet the church cannot dismiss this doctrine. This doctrine is not only the central pillar in name, it is the central pillar holding up the whole Adventist identity. That is why the last two General Conference presidents have openly endorsed Ellen White and the sanctuary doctrine. If they were to admit the errors of October 22, 1844, and the investigative judgment as the cleansing of the heavenly sanctuary as taught by Ellen White, then Ellen White would fall as “a continuing and authoritative source of truth”.
Hear "Why You Can Believe The Bible" by Voddie Baucham at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=91314616480 & Dr. James White concerning "Can I Trust My Bible?" at www.sermonaudio.com/search.asp?seriesOnly=true&currSection=sermonstopic&sourceid=immanuelbc&keyword=Can+I+Trust+My+Bible%3F&keyworddesc=Can+I+Trust+My+Bible%3F which includes "Textual Criticism: Reliability, Answering Critics, Bible
Versions & Sufficiency of Scripture." How Do We Know the Bible is True? Is it Really the Word of God? Many critics of Christianity attack the Bible’s truthfulness. Many don’t believe it because they say it was written by man. Is the Bible really
God speaking to man? Is the Bible of human origin or a direct
revelation from God? The Bible The word Bible is from the root word
“biblios” which is Greek for “little books.“ The Bible contains 66
books and was written by 40 authors. The books you see in most Bibles
have been tried and tested and were generally accepted by the early
church. For centuries the Bible was not available to the general public
due to their being only hand-copied ones available. The Bible has been
banned from many nations, it has been burned by others, it has been
declared out of date by moderns, but it has brought salvation to untold
millions. It is the unbridled truth and the unchangeable Word of God
that changes those who read it. When people read it, it reads them
too! It comforts the afflicted and afflicts the comfortable. What
follows is conclusive evidence that we can believe that the Bible is God
speaking to us and not just the words of men. Thus Says the Lord or
Thus Says Man?
If the Bible were indeed a work of man, then we would expect some of the
words to say, “thus says the prophet Jeremiah” or “thus says Peter an
Apostle of God” but it doesn’t. From what I could count, “Thus says the
Lord” is recorded 418 times. If it were of human origin, then we would
read somewhere that the Bible or the message came from a certain author
but we never see that anywhere. On the contrary, we read over 1,000
times where “Jesus said” and “Thus says the Lord” were written down. In
fact, even the Book of Revelation is not called John’s Book of
Revelation at all. In Revelation 1:1-2 we see where the words of this
book came from: “The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to
show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by
sending his angel to his servant John.” So John was just the recipient
of the book as he just wrote down what he was told. Paul said, “All
Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking,
correcting and training in righteousness” (2 Tim 3:16).
Paul clearly said that all Scripture is God-breathed…not just the New
Testament or the Old Testament, but all Scripture. Peter reiterates it
by writing, “For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but
men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit” (2 Pet
1:21).
Peter would tell you that “you must understand that no prophecy of
Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation” (2 Pet 1:20).
God gives a very serious warning to anyone who takes away or adds to any
of the words in the Bible, indicating that only He gives the words of
this book and no human had better tamper with it. In Revelation 22:19
God warns that if anyone adds to or takes away any of the words of the
Bible, He “…shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of
the holy city (heaven or the new Jerusalem)”. This same warning is
given in the Old Testament in Deuteronomy 4:2.
God said study to show thyself approved. Chapter by chapter and verse by verse.
Lord Jesus be mercyfull to us we need u more anything
See EX SDA pastor Dale Ratzlaff's video called "Is Sabbath Keeping Essential to Be a Real Christian? Former SDA Pastor Answers This Question" at th-cam.com/video/w0L3rSSL_H8/w-d-xo.html. The description text for this video reads: A free written transcript is available of this message at media-cloud.sermonaudio.com/text/315171037.pdf. Free written transcripts of this message are available in 20 languages at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?m=t&s=315171037. See our playlist, "Dealing with Seventh-day Adventism & Their "Prophetess"" with 44 videos at th-cam.com/play/PL5316CC6F66F24283.html. Please examine the following important websites: www.lifeassuranceministries.com, www.lifeassuranceministries.org, www.FormerAdventist.com, & www.TruthorFables.com. Email: proclamation@gmail.com for free materials.
Larry Wessels, director of Christian Answers of Austin, Texas/ Christian Debater (TH-cam Channel CANSWERSTV at th-cam.com/users/CAnswersTVfeatured; websites: www.BibleQuery.org, www.HistoryCart.com, & www.MuslimHope.com, email: cdebater@aol.com) is joined in studio by former Seventh Day Adventist pastor Dale Ratzlaff (email: dale@ratzlaf.com) who relates his personal testimony of why he left the Seventh Day Adventist religion & why Ellen G. White is a false prophet.
Dale Ratzlaff is author of Sabbath in Christ, The Cultic Doctrine of Seventh-day Adventists, etc. Dale was an Adventist pastor for 13 years, seven of which he spent teaching Bible at Monterey Bay Academy , La Selva Beach, California. During his doctoral studies at Andrews University in the 1980’s, Dale became convinced that the 1844 investigative judgment could not be supported by Scripture. Since he could no longer teach this doctrine, he and his wife Carolyn left the Adventist denomination.
There is no command to keep the Sabbath in the N.T. All the meetings in the book of Acts are in a Jewish setting. There is no instruction on how to keep the Sabbath in letters written to young Gentile churches. Sabbath breaking is never listed in any lists of NT sins. When the Sabbath in mentioned in the epistles, it is either in a negative or unimportant context. The O.T. prophets confront the gentile nations for worshiping idols, blaspheming the name of God, ruthless killing, injustice and immorality, but never for breaking the Sabbath. The Jews considered the Sabbath to be a ritual law. The Jews insisted that a Gentile staying with a Jew was to keep the Sabbath. However, if the Gentile kept the Sabbath on his own he was to be put to death. Jesus, according to John 5 broke the Sabbath and from his defense of his other Sabbath incidents it seems clear that He understood the Sabbath to be a ritual law. The entrance sign to the Old Covenant was circumcision. The continuing sign the Old Covenant was Sabbath. “Remember the Sabbath” The entrance sign to the New Covenant is baptism The continuing sign in the New Covenant is the Lord’s Supper. “Do this in remembrance of Me”
In the early chapters of the book of Acts, the first Christians were predominantly Jews. When Gentiles began to receive the gift of salvation through Jesus Christ, the Jewish Christians had a dilemma. What aspects of the Mosaic Law and Jewish tradition should Gentile Christians be instructed to obey? The apostles met and discussed the issue in the Jerusalem council (Acts 15). The decision was, “It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood” (Acts 15:19-20). Sabbath-keeping was not one of the commands the apostles felt was necessary to force on Gentile believers. It is inconceivable that the apostles would neglect to include Sabbath-keeping if it was God’s command for Christians to observe the Sabbath day.
A common error in the Sabbath-keeping debate is the concept that the Sabbath was the day of worship. Groups such as the Seventh Day Adventists hold that God requires the church service to be held on Saturday, the Sabbath day. That is not what the Sabbath command was. The Sabbath command was to do no work on the Sabbath day (Exodus 20:8-11). Nowhere in Scripture is the Sabbath day commanded to be the day of worship. Yes, Jews in Old Testament, New Testament, and modern times use Saturday as the day of worship, but that is not the essence of the Sabbath command. In the book of Acts, whenever a meeting is said to be on the Sabbath, it is a meeting of Jews and/or Gentile converts to Judaism, not Christians.
When did the early Christians meet? Acts 2:46-47 gives us the answer, “Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.” If there was a day that Christians met regularly, it was the first day of the week (our Sunday), not the Sabbath day (our Saturday) (Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2).
CAnswersTV I’ve been dealing with a person who I don’t think is a SDA but somewhere similar in the beliefs of Christians who do not hold to the sabbath day are basically sinning. He say “ grace did not bypass the commandments” do you have any good books or good resource. He also believes for some reason that all modern day Christians come from Roman Catholicism and that’s the reason we don’t hold to the sabbath because the Catholics changed the doctrine. Do you have anything for this type of persons like I said not SDA BUT SIMILAR. One flaw that I did see is he based the sabbath keeping off of the book of genesis.which I know SDA does because God rested on the 7 day???
@@StuntmanJo - Besides Dale Ratzlaff's book "Sabbath in Christ" available at www.lifeassuranceministries.com & "Sabbatismos: The Sabbath under the Gospel" at www.biblequery.org/OtherBeliefs/SeventhDayAdventism/Sabbatismos.html, see our video "Sabbath Keeping Is Not Required For New Testament Christians: Seventh-Day Adventists Beware" at th-cam.com/video/TEFt4TOR6E8/w-d-xo.html . All this Old Testament Sabbath keeping we see in these last several centuries is mainly due to the heresy of the Roman Catholic church saying that the Decalogue is still binding. Early Christian church history (check the writings of Justin Martyr, Irenaeus & Tertulian - see our website www.HistoryCart.com) shows that the early Christian church did not do Sabbath keeping. It's not until you get to 321AD with the Emperor Constantine followed by the Council of Liodecia between 363 to 364 AD the Old Testament Sabbath keeping started to make a come back under the apostate Roman Catholic religion & the Biblical ignorance that predominated at the time. In a way then Old Testament Sabbath keepers owe their anti New Testament practices to Roman Catholicism (for more on Romanism see our playlist with 197 videos "Dealing with Roman Catholicism, Idolatry & the Virgin Mary" at th-cam.com/play/PLFFA8D69D1B914715.html.
Scripture never mentions any Sabbath (Saturday) gatherings by believers for fellowship or worship. However, there are clear passages that mention the first day of the week, Sunday. For instance, Acts 20:7 states that “on the first day of the week we came together to break bread.” Paul also urges the Corinthian believers, “On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with his income” (1 Corinthians 16:2). Since Paul designates this offering as “service” in 2 Corinthians 9:12, this collection may have been linked with the Sunday worship service of the Christian assembly. Historically, Sunday, not Saturday, was the normal meeting day for Christians in the church, and its practice dates back to the first century.
Christians worship on Sundays in celebration of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. It is very important to remember, though, Sunday worship is not commanded in the Bible, and Sunday has not replaced Saturday and become the Christian Sabbath. While the New Testament describes Christians gathering and worshiping on Sundays, it nowhere states that Sunday has replaced Saturday as the Sabbath. The key point in all of this is that we are not to limit our worship to any particular day of the week. We are to rest in the Lord every day. We are to worship the Lord every day.
the 4th commandment is to keep the sabbath holy and to labor 6 days and the 7th we do no work . Jesus kept the sabbath to and taught on the sabbath. I’m not a SDA but I do acknowledge that commandment
@@dakotaobrian - For much more on this see our video "Is Sabbath Keeping Essential to Be a Real Christian? Former SDA Pastor Answers This Question" at th-cam.com/video/w0L3rSSL_H8/w-d-xo.html. I’ve always thought this was a very interesting verse: “he not only had broken the sabbath….” John 5:18. Here we are told by the Apostle John that Jesus Christ “had broken the sabbath.” That is because in John 5:17 Jesus himself said that he works on the Sabbath - “But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.” His work was that of healing the sick.
So Jesus confessed to working on the Sabbath, thus he “had broken the sabbath” and consequently the Jews sought to kill him.
But we know that Jesus Christ never sinned. It was not a sin for Jesus to work on the sabbath. How can that be? How can it be that Jesus Christ broke the sabbath and never sinned?
The answer is the difference between the letter of the law and the spirit of the law. While the letter of the law forbids working on the sabbath, the spirit of the law is love. Love is the fulfillment of the law. And for Jesus to work on the sabbath by healing the sick, he was violating the letter of the law but fulfilling the spirit of the law.
The pharisees falsely accused Jesus Christ of sinning because they were legalistic and stuck on the letter of the law that they completely forgot what the law was all about - the good of people through love. The sabbath was instituted for man’s good, not so that men like Jesus could not help men by healing. As Jesus said, “Then said Jesus unto them, I will ask you one thing; Is it lawful on the sabbath days to do good, or to do evil? to save life, or to destroy it?” Luke 6:9
The letter of the law forbids all work on the sabbath and yet the spirit of the law would allow and even demand that Doctors, Police, Pastors, Street Preachers, etc, would work on the Sabbath. It is about love - the spirit of the law, not the letter of the law. But when anyone so pushes the letter of the law to the violation of the spirit of the law, they fall into the trap of legalism and commit the sins of the Pharisees.
Jesus Christ broke the sabbath by working and yet did not sin for the same reason that David did that which was not lawful and how the priests profane the sabbath yet were blameless:
“But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungered, and they that were with him; How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests? Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?” Matt. 12:3-5 See also our video "Sabbath Keeping Is Not Required For New Testament Christians: Seventh-Day Adventists Beware" at th-cam.com/video/TEFt4TOR6E8/w-d-xo.html.
1 Peter 3:15
Thanks for this answer. This is a big help. I appreciate the question being asked and your clear Biblical answer to the question.
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discusses the somewhat hidden but horrific fact of Adventists
widespread practice of abortion and the organization's two sets of
guidelines, one of which is known by the members, and one of which is
“secret”, available to doctors and Adventist hospitals -www.lifeassuranceministries.org/proclamation/2014/2/abortioninadvent.html;
examines the roots of Ellen White’s and the SDA’s “health message”, the
Adventists’ “right arm of the gospel”. It begins on page 14 of the PDF:
lifeassuranceministries.org/Proclamation2015_1web.pdf;
see the playlists which includes videos from the annual Former
Adventist Conferences with multiple testimonies of Former Adventists as
well as the weekly inductive studies through books of the Bible taught
at their Word Search studies th-cam.com/users/FormerAdventistplaylists, see the following websites: www.TruthorFables.com, www.LifeAssuranceMinistries.org, www.ExAdventist.com, & www.GreatControversyExposed.com. 2 Timothy 2:15,
"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to
be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." The previous resources
will be very valuable in an investigative study of whether Seventh Day
Adventism is a Biblically true Gospel believing organization or if it is
a false cultic religion peddling a false gospel invented by Ellen G.
White & her associates thus violating Galatians 1:6-9, " I marvel
that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of
Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that
trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or
an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which
we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so
say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that
ye have received, let him be accursed." The original Greek word for
"accursed" is "anathema" which means "condemnation to Hell by the decree
of God" & is consistent with other scriptural passages containing
it: Acts 23:14 cf. David's oath in 2 Samuel 3:35, Romans 9:3, 1 Corinthians 12:3, 1 Corinthians 16:22).
It is also significant to note that the Septuagint (the oldest Greek
translation of the Old Testament, dating from the third century B. C.)
uses the word anathema in a similar sense in every case where someone is
described as being set apart and devoted to destruction, because that
person is abhorrent to God (e.g., the inhabitants of Jericho in Joshua 6:17). It is also used of persons or things what were given up to God and could not be redeemed (e.g., Leviticus 27:28-29.).
the un-Biblical sense of anathema as a declaration of condemnation by
man began to enter the church in its early centuries. By the time of the
Protestant Reformation, the Roman Catholic church not only used the
term in the sense of excommunication from the visible church, but also
used it to usurp the exclusively Divine right to pronounce condemnation
to Hell upon a person. It was thus that Rome, in Canon 11 of the Sixth
Session of the Council of Trent (1547) said of anyone who believed in
justification by faith alone, "let him be anathema." At the same council
Rome also said, of anyone who denied that salvation is a cooperative
effort between man and God, "let him be anathema" (Canon 4). Rome
declares men condemned to Hell for believing and preaching the one true
Gospel. Five hundred years after the Reformation, Rome continues to
misuse and abuse anathema in this way. The current edition of the
Catholic Encyclopedia says this: Anathema remains a major
excommunication which is to be promulgated with great solemnity. A
formula for this ceremony was drawn up by Pope Zachary (741-52) in the
chapter Debent duodecim sacerdotes...The Roman Pontifical reproduces it
in the chapter Ordo excommunicandi et absolvendi, distinguishing three
sorts of excommunication: minor excommunication, formerly incurred by a
person holding communication with anyone under the ban of
excommunication; major excommunication, pronounced by the Pope in
reading a sentence; and anathema, or the penalty incurred by crimes of
the gravest order, and solemnly promulgated by the Pope. In passing this
sentence, the pontiff is vested in amice, stole, and a violet cope,
wearing his mitre, and assisted by twelve priests clad in their
surplices and holding lighted candles. [The symbolism of all of this is
the damnable falsehood that the Roman pope is the "vicar of Christ" or
vice-Christ, the visible representation of Christ on earth.] He takes
his seat in front of the altar or in some other suitable place, and
pronounces the formula of anathema which ends with these words:
"Wherefore in the name of God the All-powerful, Father, Son, and Holy
Ghost, of the Blessed Peter, Prince of the Apostles, and of all the
saints, in virtue of the power which has been given us of binding and
loosing in Heaven and on earth, we deprive [name of person] himself and
all his accomplices and all his abettors of the Communion of the Body
and Blood of Our Lord, we separate him from the society of all
Christians, we exclude him from the bosom of our Holy Mother the Church
in Heaven and on earth, we declare him excommunicated and anathematized
and we judge him condemned to eternal fire with Satan and his angels and
all the reprobate, so long as he will not burst the fetters of the
demon, do penance and satisfy the Church; we deliver him to Satan to
mortify his body, that his soul may be saved on the day of judgment."
Whereupon all the assistants respond: "Fiat, fiat, fiat." [That is, we
concur that this declaration is legally binding.] The pontiff and the
twelve priests then cast to the ground the lighted candles they have
been carrying, and notice is sent in writing to the priests and
neighboring bishops of the name of the one who has been excommunicated
and the cause of his excommunication, in order that they may have no
communication with him.11. Catholic Encyclopedia, entry on "Anathema," www.newadvent.org/cathen/01455e.htm,
as viewed on 11/7/2009. The meaning of anathema in Galatians chapter
one is clearly, "let him be condemned to Hell." No lesser penalty can be
exacted against those who persist in proclaiming a counterfeit gospel
of any kind. Rome's concept of anathema is clearly un-Biblical, since it
is centered upon the judgment of man and not of God. Worse yet, Rome
uses its un-Biblical anathema most often to enforce conformity to its
false gospel and its man-made doctrines and regulations, and loyalty to a
papal hierarchy that Scripture condemns. After thorough examination
Seventh Day Adventism qualifies as a non Christian anti Christ cult due
to the following reasons: 1. It is built on the woman Ellen G.
White & her teachings despite the Bible saying women are not
permitted to teach or usurp authority over men (1 Timothy 2:12, "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.") See links at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=112706102442, www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=59131749272 & th-cam.com/video/Ql_obI6wA9w/w-d-xo.html).
2. Ellen White claimed to be equal with the Biblical prophets &
apostles through her many writings (sort of a "Spirit of Prophecy")
& her SDA followers believed her (2 Peter 3:16); see www.truthorfables.com/EGW_Writings_Infallible.htm.
Question: Are there modern day prophets or is there a need for prophets
today? Answer: In the New Testament, the gift of the office of prophet
was a temporary one granted by God for the purpose of building His
Church. Contrary to the apostles, who had broad ministries, these men
had localized ministries within local churches, as we see illustrated in
such places as Acts 11:21-28
and Acts 13:1.Scripture shows us that the prophets of the New Testament
had two primary purposes:They were gifted men given to the Church and
appointed by God (Eph. 4:11, 1 Cor. 12:28) for the purpose of helping to lay the foundation of the Church (Eph. 2:20).
They, like the apostles, received God’s revelation (Eph. 3:5) and truth
and proclaimed it to their churches. It is important to remember that
the early Church did not have a completed Bible, so God granted this
revelation for the purpose of teaching His message to the Church. The
New Testament prophets also spoke forth and taught the apostles’
doctrine. Everything taught by these prophets had to be consistent with
the teaching of the apostles (1 Cor. 14:36-37).
3. Ellen G. White is a false prophet due to her false & failed prophecies (Deuteronomy 18:19-22); see www.mmoutreachinc.com/seventh_day_adventists/egw_false_prophet.html, 1timothy4-13.com/files/bible/sda_morefailed.html & www.bible.ca/7-prophecy-blunders.htm.
I believe with the grace of God, that Ellen G. White is the prophet of His church in the last days, i am one of the readers of her books, so far, i have not read even a single word that is against the Word of GOD.
JamesCardo - Seventh-day Adventism is a religious cult of a demon possessed woman because she claimed a person could not make it through the 1844 investigative judgment of Christ (see our video "Cult Doctrine of Seventh-day Adventism: 1844 Probation & Satan As A Final Sin Bearer for Adventists" at th-cam.com/video/J50HlZFYHtY/w-d-xo.html) without keeping the Sabbath. By making Sabbath Keeping a requirement for salvation the Seventh-day Adventists commit the same type of damnable heresy as the Judaizers did in Galatians 1:6-9 who only required circumcision. Ellen G. White required a lot more things to achieve salvation for her deluded investigative probation judgment (including the "Reform Dress" for women) & many other things than the Judaizers, who were damned by the apostle Paul, ever dreamed of. Ellen G. White makes the Judaizers look like antinomians! Of course both groups are destined for hell in the end. Besides all this Seventh-day Adventists as well as the Black Hebrew Israelites (see our video "Myths of the Black Hebrew Israelites: Theological Racism, Black King James Only, Apocrypha, Whites" at th-cam.com/video/9TiqBceXoH8/w-d-xo.html) & others do not keep the Sabbath the way the Old Testament says to keep the Sabbath thus they are self deluded hypocrites to say the least. For more on the SDA see our playlist with 61 videos at th-cam.com/play/PL5316CC6F66F24283.html . See also www.truthorfables.com/ .
HOW TO KEEP THE SABBATH
What Is required in keeping the Sabbath according to Mosaic Law:
1. No work done at all (Ex. 20: 10; Lev. 23: 3; Jer. 17:21-22). No watering the lawn, no working in the yard, no hobbies, no surfing, no fixing flat tires, etc. By law if a person did not stop all types of activity in honor of the Sabbath, he was breaking the law. In Numbers 15:32-36 a man was caught collecting sticks on the Sabbath, and he received a rock concert from the people he knew.
2 No kindling of a fire (Ex. 35:3). No fellowship cookouts or barbecues. You can't go into a restaurant and get a hamburger that's been flame broiled, you can't cook eggs, or pancakes in the morning because you'd be kindling a fire for cooking. To drive a car would be to "kindle a fire" In the combustion chamber of your engine.
3. No traveling (Ex. 16:29). Later the Jews added to this law, allowing only a half mile of travel on the Sabbath which we see observed in the NT. But the pure law says "stay at home." Actually, If you kept this part of the law, you could not travel to your church gathering unless it was less than one-quarter mile away from home. If you had an emergency you could not drive to the hospital.
4. No trading (Amos 8:5). If you happened to need gas to get to church service, you could not "trade" money for gasoline. You would not be allowed to buy a cassette tape of that morning's message or a book at the store. There is to be No exchanging of money for goods. If you worked with stocks and you needed to sell you couldn’t.
5. No marketing (Neh. 10:31; 13:15,19). Make sure you do no shopping whatsoever. You can't buy any ice cream for dessert after dinner or anything else. If you run out of food or drink at home you can’t go out to purchase any, you can’t even by a stick of gum.
6."... a holy assembly with double the daily offering along with the other offerings. In other words, you are to give twice as much on the Sabbath (Num. 28:9).Do we practiced this today In compliance with Old Testament law. Do Sabbatarian's really practice the law? I have yet to see people go to Shabbat and give twice as much each week.
7. New showbread In the holy place (Lev. 24:8). Of course this cannot be done today since there is no temple, so this part of the Sabbath cannot be followed by the church. The fact Is the Sabbath was not made for the gentiles, but for the Jews and their generations Ex. 31:12-17). It's a law given between God and the Jews.
8.The last part of the requirements for keeping the Sabbath day law Is the penalty for breaking It. DEATH
Titus 1:9-16
@@CAnswersTVThat I'm making a screenshot of this. This should be shared to all Sabbath day enthusiasts.
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Thank you so much for this Biblical information. It will be very useful. All glory to *Christ.*
Isaiah 5:20-21
[20]Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
[21]Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!
@CAnswersTV christ was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world did not know him. Luke 14:5 Then he asked them, “If one of you has a child or an ox that falls into a well on the Sabbath day, will you not immediately pull it out?”
Am still an SDA but my faith is not in SDA lies doctrines
I am more of Jesus as my personal Sabbath Rest not the teaching of EGW
Then why still have a part of this false organization?
@ Rass B. I totally understand. Some tend to choose the church that is closest to their beliefs. If we believed all the doctrines of a church, we would be following blindly. God gave brains to think for ourselves, so we have the right to question/disagree with things that are not straightforward for us. At the same time, we dont wish to forsake the congregation, so we keep attending. We dont leave the company that pays us just because we disagree with their rules, cause it will be the same in another organization, but most times we stay because we need to be paid.
Rass B - If you are still in the SDA cult then you must believe in the SDA Jesus or else why be in the SDA religion at all, right? The SDA Jesus is not the same Jesus as the Bible Jesus. Since you claim to be a Seventh-day Adventist then your SDA Jesus is not the final sin bearer for sinners but Satan is, see www.truthorfables.com/Scapegoat.htm & our video "Cult Doctrine of Seventh-day Adventism: 1844 Probation & Satan As A Final Sin Bearer for Adventists" at th-cam.com/video/J50HlZFYHtY/w-d-xo.html. Thus you have a phony Jesus who gives the glory for sin bearing to the Devil rather than being the sin bearer himself - what a blasphemy for which you are guilty!
Your SDA Jesus is confused as to who he is. SDAs mistakingly confuse Jesus with the archangel Michael - see www.truthorfables.com/Is_Michael_Christ.htm . Many cults and "isms" hold to the mistaken view that Jesus in the Old Testament is Michael the Archangel, especially the Seventh-day Adventists and the Jehovah's Witnesses. Jehovah's Witnesses must hold this view of Jesus in order to justify their Arian view of the Trinity and justify their disbelief in Jesus as eternal deity and creator of all things. All early Adventists and many, if not most even today, hold to the doctrine that Jesus is the Archangel Michael in the Old Testament. Ellen G. White, the founder of Adventism, was more than a little confused about her view of the nature of the Lord Jesus. She was clearly and deliberately confused, vague, and contradictory about her stance on Jesus as being the uncreated creator of all things. It is without dispute that she taught that Michael the Archangel was indeed the pre-incarnate Christ, and that "God raised him to equality with Himself." There seems to be general denial of her views among most, if not all faithful Adventists who consider themselves Trinitarian, but most, if not all, still see Jesus as the Archangel Michael. Some would say that this is simply a role Jesus played in the Old Testament, even though He was not a created angel. The Biblical evidence is to the contrary on both counts. Still in their current claim to be thoroughly orthodox in their view of the Trinity, some SDAs are still not clear and their view is more of that of a "Heavenly Trio" in contrast to the traditional orthodox Biblical view.
In addition to The Lord Jesus never being identified by any of the authors of Scripture as Michael the Archangel, he is never seen as anyone but a ranking servant and messenger among the created servants of God. When individuals met the Angel of the Lord, they were well aware they had encountered God - Genesis 16:7-12; 21:17-18; 22:11-18; Exodus 3:2; Judges 2:1-4; 5:23; 6:11-24; 13:3-22; 2 Samuel 24:16; Zechariah 1:12; 3:1; 12:8 (see the video "Biblical Doctrine of Good & Evil Angels/Finding Jesus Foretold Throughout the Old Testament" at th-cam.com/video/M_nGtBfrHG8/w-d-xo.html ). Never did a meeting with any of the angels result in such a reaction. Never did anyone ever ascribe deity at any level when meeting Michael the Archangel. For more Biblical information see the video "Is Jesus God Almighty in the Flesh Meaning the Second Person of the Trinity or Is He Something Else?" at th-cam.com/video/_BlPm7M7uv8/w-d-xo.html .
The "Jesus" you believe in is a false "Jesus" & that is why I took the time to show some things above about your SDA "Jesus" to thus prove that even your premise of using "Jesus" in your comment is faulty. Even you admit that the SDA is "lies" yet you stay in a false religion, why?? Please see the following called "Why remain a Seventh-day Adventist" at www.truthorfables.com/Why_Remain_SDA.htm. Not only does the SDA have a false "Jesus" but a false gospel as well which will damn your soul. For more see our playlist called " Dealing with Seventh-day Adventism & Their "Prophetess" with 49 videos at th-cam.com/play/PL5316CC6F66F24283.html .
2 Corinthians 11:4, "For if one comes and preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted, you bear this beautifully."
@@sissyrayself7508 One of the reasons why pastors who know the dirt about Ellen White stay around is because of the $$$$ and nice comfortable lifestyle.
As for the church membership, the continuous brainwashing and false doctrine that comes from the front of the pulpit makes them nearly unable to discern biblical truths.
Please name passages from Ellen White and writings of where she plagurised, I am very interested.
Ellen White's books/testimonies contain a large amount of material Mrs. White and her group of college educated secretaries plagiarized from non-inspired authors. She had a library of 1200 books to copy from. Ellen White did not give credit for her sources, while she led her followers to believe the material she wrote came from the throne of God. "In these letters which I write, in the testimonies I bear, I am presenting to you that which the Lord has presented to me. I do not write one article in the paper expressing merely my own ideas. They are what God has opened before me in vision--the precious rays of light shining from the throne." Testimonies for the Church Vol. 5 (1882-1889), page 67. For much documentation see "The White Lie" by Walter Rea at walterrea.com/. See "Ellen White's Plagiarism" at www.nonsda.org/egw/plagiarism.html. See also www.truthorfables.com/Desire_of_Ages_Veltman.htm. For example, Ellen White used a minimum of 23 sources of various types of literature, including fiction, in her writings on the life of Christ concerning her book "Desire of the Ages." ("The summary statement in the first article listed 28 writers and 32 sources for both the DA and pre-DA texts. I came up with the number 23 by omitting the duplications between the two textual Surveys and, in an effort to be sure that we had bona fide sources, by eliminating from the count all sources providing less than five parallels for any given chapter." quote from researcher Fred Veltman (Ministry, October 1990).
Actually, we have no way of knowing how many sources are represented in Ellen White's work on the life of Christ. In addition to the remaining 72 chapters of the DA text, there are two other books to review: Thoughts From the Mount of Blessing and Christ's Object Lessons. These 23 writers are sufficient, however, to answer the questions so many have asked: From what writers did Ellen White borrow? What kinds of books were they writing?
Space does not permit us to survey all 23 here. But there is no need to cover the entire lot, since many fall under the literary category of "Victorian lives of Christ." The books in this category were never intended to be biographies. Today they would probably be classified as historical fiction.
One obviously fictional account is Ingraham's The Prince of the House of David, a work that Albert Schweitzer referred to as one of the "’edifying’ romances on the life of Jesus intended for family reading." 8 Ingraham cast his work as a collection of letters written by an eyewitness in Palestine to her father in Egypt.
William Hanna's popular work was designed to be "practical and devotional." 9 No wonder that parallels from Hanna are to be found in 13 of the 15 DA chapters we investigated.
The books in Ellen White's library at the time of her death appear to corroborate what her writings reveal. She read widely in works of differing literary type, theological perspective, and scholarly depth.
I`d like to know too
For information about Ellen G. White's plagiarism - Ellen White's books/testimonies contain a large amount of material Mrs. White and her group of college educated secretaries plagiarized from non-inspired authors. She had a library of 1200 books to copy from. Ellen White did not give credit for her sources, while she led her followers to believe the material she wrote came from the throne of God. "In these letters which I write, in the testimonies I bear, I am presenting to you that which the Lord has presented to me. I do not write one article in the paper expressing merely my own ideas. They are what God has opened before me in vision--the precious rays of light shining from the throne." Testimonies for the Church Vol. 5 (1882-1889), page 67. See "The White Lie" by Walter Rea under Books.
Some of the major sources of Ellen White's writings: John Harris, The Great Teacher; Frederic Farrar, The Life of Christ; George Jones, Life-Scenes From the Four Gospels; Alfred Edersheim, The Life and Times of Jesus the Messiah; J. H. Ingraham, The Prince of the House of David; Francis Wayland, Salvation by Christ; and John Cumming, Sabbath Evening Readings on the New Testament: St. John. For more see www.truthorfables.com/ & www.truthorfables.com/Great_Controversy_Plagiarism.htm; "SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISM IS BASED ON THE PLAGERIZED WRITINGS OF ELLEN G. WHITE" at th-cam.com/video/nIsIS8mTpbs/w-d-xo.html&index=7&list=PL5316CC6F66F24283 with former Adventist Mark Martin of www.exadventist.com/. See also www.rethinkingadventism.com/. Matthew 7:15
thanks
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What are the books that she plagiarized? Please, give them in full details.
Jayson Llanda - It's not good to claim to have visions from God & messages from angels like Ellen White did & at the same time plagiarize from people who were not angels or God, that's just not an honest thing to do. Regarding EGW plagiarism. Walter Rey’s "White Lie" book lists dozens of examples which is available at www.amazon.com/White-Lie-Walter-T-Rea/dp/B01JXO19BW . Another book, "White Washed" by former Adventist pastor Sydney Cleveland is excellent as well. You can get that book at www.sabbathinchrist.com/index.php/product/white-washed/ . Regarding Revelation 12:14 and 19:10, you can find this in the chapter “The Sabbath and Seventh-day Adventists” in Dale Ratzlaff's book "Sabbath in Christ." This can be purchased here at www.SabbathinChrist.com . Additional questions can be emailed to dale@ratzlaf.com .
For more information about Ellen G. White's plagiarism - Ellen White's books/testimonies contain a large amount of material Mrs. White and her group of college educated secretaries plagiarized from non-inspired authors. She had a library of 1200 books to copy from. Ellen White did not give credit for her sources, while she led her followers to believe the material she wrote came from the throne of God. "In these letters which I write, in the testimonies I bear, I am presenting to you that which the Lord has presented to me. I do not write one article in the paper expressing merely my own ideas. They are what God has opened before me in vision--the precious rays of light shining from the throne." Testimonies for the Church Vol. 5 (1882-1889), page 67. See "The White Lie" by Walter Rea under Books. Some of the major sources of Ellen White's writings: John Harris, "The Great Teacher;" Frederic Farrar, "The Life of Christ;" George Jones, "Life-Scenes From the Four Gospels;" Alfred Edersheim, "The Life and Times of Jesus the Messiah;" J. H. Ingraham, "The Prince of the House of David;" Francis Wayland, "Salvation by Christ;" and John Cumming, "Sabbath Evening Readings on the New Testament: St. John."
For more see www.truthorfables.com/ & www.truthorfables.com/Great_Controversy_Plagiarism.htm ; "SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISM IS BASED ON THE PLAGERIZED WRITINGS OF ELLEN G. WHITE" at th-cam.com/video/nIsIS8mTpbs/w-d-xo.html&index=7&list=PL5316CC6F66F24283 with former Adventist Mark Martin of www.exadventist.com/ . See also www.rethinkingadventism.com/ & www.nonsda.org/ . See our entire playlist called "Dealing with Seventh-day Adventism & Their "Prophetess" with 51 videos at th-cam.com/play/PL5316CC6F66F24283.html .
@ Jayson Llanda
Here is solid proof right before your eyes.
Please watch this series on TH-cam.
The channel is called “Test The Prophet”.
I pray you watch it and share it.
God Be with you.
Romans 8:28
@@TruthSetFree-zm1ep - The link to the "Test the Prophet" channel is at th-cam.com/users/TesttheProphet .
So who is the little horn on Daniel 8 and what is the sanctuary of verses 11, 13 and 14?
mikartt7 - For a much more detailed explanation click on www.truthorfables.com/2300_Days_by_Vowless.htm . Daniel 8 speaks of 2,300 days in a prophecy concerning a persecution of the Jewish people during the intertestamental period. The prophecy of the 2,300 days (“evenings and mornings”) is found in Daniel 8:13-14: “Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to him, ‘How long will it take for the vision to be fulfilled-the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, the rebellion that causes desolation, the surrender of the sanctuary and the trampling underfoot of the Lord’s people?’ He said to me, ‘It will take 2,300 evenings and mornings; then the sanctuary will be reconsecrated.’”
The time period covered, 2,300 days, figures to about 6 1/3 years. We believe this prophecy was fulfilled before the birth of Christ, during the reign of the Seleucid king Antiochus IV (Epiphanes). Antiochus desecrated the temple in Jerusalem and severely persecuted the Jews from about September 171 BC to December 165 BC. When Antiochus died, the Jews purified and rededicated the temple, just as Daniel had predicted. These events are commemorated in the celebration of Hanukkah.
@@CAnswersTV Are you referring to the "abomination of desolation"? Did Antiochus fulfill that prophecy?
@@ruahfire7566 - What is an abomination? An abomination is much more serious: it’s a thing that causes profound disgust or hatred. It’s an obscenity, a great evil. The term “abomination” appears more than 100 times in the Old Testament, and only a few times in the New Testament. And most commonly, the word refers to significant violations of the covenant, especially idolatry. You see it in Matthew chapter 24 verse 15, and Mark chapter 13 verse 14, where Jesus refers to “the Abomination of Desolation”, meaning an abomination that causes desolation or destruction. He says this to his disciples:
...when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place... then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let the one who is on the housetop not go down to take what is in his house, and let the one who is in the field not turn back to take his cloak. And alas for women who are pregnant and for those who are nursing infants in those days! Pray that your flight may not be in winter or on a Sabbath. For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be.
There’s been some speculation about who or what this “abomination of desolation” is, but things are made clearer by Jesus when he says that the prophet Daniel had already spoken about it.
Sure enough, there are three places where the prophet Daniel speaks about it. In Daniel chapter 9, he says “on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate”. Daniel chapter 11 says, “they shall set up the abomination that makes desolate.” And in chapter 12, Daniel again talks about “the abomination that makes desolate”.
Daniel speaks of a prince who will destroy Jerusalem, together with its temple and its sacrifices. He says that “forces from him shall appear and profane the temple and fortress, and shall take away the regular burnt offering. And they shall set up the abomination that makes desolate”.
Who is the “him” in that sentence, this person who will profane the temple and the fortress? As is often the case with Old Testament prophecy, there is a long-term fulfillment of the prophecy, and a short-term one. In the short-term, Daniel’s prophecy was fulfilled by a king called Antiochus Epiphanes IV, who ruled Palestine from 175-164 B.C.
He treated Israel so terribly that Israel rebelled against him, and when he arrived to suppress the rebellion, his forces went into the temple in Jerusalem, set up an altar for Zeus, and offered pigs as a sacrifice. Not only was this idolatry, of course, but it defiled the Holy of Holies, the most sacred inner part of the Temple, where God was said to dwell. Hence the abomination that causes desolation - desolation for the people of Israel.
But when Jesus talks to his disciples about the abomination of desolation, he speaks of it as a future event. He says, “Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.” And typically in Scripture, a “generation” is 40 years.
So if Antiochus Epiphanes was the short-term fulfillment of Daniel’s prophecy, who was the longer-term fulfillment, the one Jesus spoke of two hundred years later?
Well, sure enough, within 40 years of Jesus’ words, the temple in Jerusalem was again desecrated. It happened in 70AD, and this time, it came from the Romans, led by their commander Titus. His armies were an abomination because they carried with them idolatrous images of their Emperor. And they brought desolation because they destroyed the city of Jerusalem, and its Temple. And once again, the Holy of Holies was defiled.
The Jewish historian Josephus claimed that 1.1 million people, most of them Jewish, were killed during the siege, so that bodies were literally piled up around the altar. The usual population of Jerusalem was likely enlarged given that many had come to the city to celebrate the Passover, which was to occur right as the siege was being launched. Prior to the siege, the Romans had allowed Jewish worshipers to enter the city for the feast, but they did not allow them to leave.
In love, then, Jesus spoke to his disciples about this horrendous event in advance to prepare them for what was coming, to warn them ahead of time so that they could flee the city.
Thankfully you and I were not alive to see such things, but Jesus’ loving warning here is still relevant to us. It reminds us that although He spoke, again and again, of things yet to come, his warnings - again and again - have proved to be trustworthy. You can, quite literally, stake your life on them.
Just a few verses later in Matthew’s Gospel, Jesus presents us with another loving warning. He speaks of his own second coming, as judge of the whole earth. He forewarns his disciples to make sure that they are living in obedience to him when he comes - which will be at a time they don’t expect.
Let’s be ready.
@@CAnswersTV Gave you a thumbs up for the informative reply. I didn't expect this response to be quite honest, I was going to nail you on the fact that Antiochus Epiphanes did not fulfill the abomination of desolation which Jesus spoke of referring to the prophecy of Daniel. Kudos to you sir!
So you agree then that the little horns spoken of in Daniel 7 & 8 ARE NOT the same entity? Clearly one of these little horns was to come out of the 3rd Empire = Grecian Empire, and specifically from one of the 4 horns that arose AFTER the fall of Alexander (the Big Horn).
The other horn was to come out of the 4th Empire or the Roman Empire, and would uproot 3 of the 10 kings and the Dragon would give him his power, seat, and authority. This was fulfilled by the Roman Catholic Papacy in 538 AD. I assume you will disagree on this point, but we both agree the two little horns of Daniel 7 & 8 cannot possibly be the same entity.
Do the leaders fly around in $20-50 M planes. Haven't seen on the Nat.
According to the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists records (see www.glassdoor.com/Salary/General-Conference-of-Seventh-Day-Adventists-Salaries-E262451.htm - if the link does not appear then do a regular google search using "General-Conference-of-Seventh-Day-Adventists-Salaries" which should bring it up) the highest paid Seventh-day Adventists working for that business are Cyber Security Analysts at $81,000 to $88,000, Family Physicians at $80,000 to $86,000, Communications Projects Managers at $71,000 to $78,000, Chief Operating Officers/Administrative Directors at $62,000 to $66,000 & Administrative Assistants at $53,000 to $57,000. The median pay of an Adventist working for the businesses of the Seventh-day Adventist organization in general (source: www.payscale.com/research/US/Employer=Seventh_Day_Adventist/Salary) is $51,000. I could not find records for how much the very top leaders of the Seventh-day Adventist religion make in salary however the SDA religion does take in about 2 billion in cash a year just in tithes & offerings alone, not counting the money they take in from their businesses (source: news.adventist.org/en/all-news/news/go/2012-04-02/is-the-adventist-church-not-realizing-12-billion/). Based on statistics shown above Seventh-day Adventists who work for the SDA organization are very wealthy compared to most people in the world. Jesus said in Matthew 19:24, "Again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." “Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.” -Luke 13:23-24. Do you understand the question in the above Scripture? “Lord, are there few that be saved?” Someone came to Jesus and wanted to know if “few” people were saved. It's interesting that the person didn't ask if “many” people were saved. Evidently the person had been listening to Jesus' preaching and became convinced that few people were really saved.
National statistics show that even the poorest Americans living in the United States have a better net income than most of the rest of the world. For instance, according to Forbes magazine, June 1, 2013, the bottom 5% of United States citizens are richer than 68% of people living throughout the rest of the world; U.S. citizens who make $50,000 a year are richer than 99.69% of the people in the rest of the world; U.S. citizens who make $20,000 a year are richer than 96% of the people in the rest of the world, U.S. citizens who make $10,000 a year are richer than 84% of the people in the rest of the world; U.S. citizens who make $100,000 a year are in a category that only 8 out of every 10,000 people achieve in the entire world. Will it be difficult for rich Americans who don't think they're rich to enter into the kingdom of heaven? Jesus already gave the answer. For more on this hear "Those Whom God Hates He Is Often Pleased To Give Plenty Of Earthly Things To, Edwards" at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=427121150346 by the well known theologian Jonathan Edwards who also preached the most famous sermon on North American soil called, "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God" at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=770213541. The best way to interpret the Bible is with the Bible. God said what He meant and meant what He said. Let the Bible speak for itself. Jesus answered the question in Luke 13:24 with the following words...“...for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.” Most of the people in this world are going straight to Hell when they die because they have not been born again (hear "Few Saved From A Burning Hell" by E.A. Johnston at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=3514145121). Lies and deception are everywhere! "TRUE BELIEVERS & NON BELIEVERS ACCORDING TO THE GOSPEL OF THE REFORMATION: WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?" at th-cam.com/video/3_dN0oC57Rk/w-d-xo.html). It's not just millionaires & world leaders but many lesser wealthy persons who exceed the vast majority of mankind in money & possessions (Luke16:19-31 is a good example of this in the parable of the rich man & Lazarus). See the video "It is Difficult for Americans to Enter Heaven - Tim Conway" at th-cam.com/video/bDwNGXciNCQ/w-d-xo.html.
For more information about the SDA see our playlist called "Dealing with Seventh-day Adventism & their "Prophetess" with 41 videos at th-cam.com/play/PL5316CC6F66F24283.html.
Matthew 7:15
am not well verseled about ellen white but what i want you to tell me is which day is considered for a christian to woshp the lord and give me the scripture that go in line with your answer
Why do we worship on Sunday instead of Saturday? In the Old Testament, God stated, "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of the Lord your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter, your male or your female servant or your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you." (Exodus 20:8-10, NASB). It was the custom of the Jews to come together on the Sabbath, which is Saturday, cease work, and worship God. Jesus went to the synagogue on Saturday to teach (Matt. 12:9, John 18:20) as did the apostle Paul (Acts 17:2; 18:4). So, if in the Old Testament we are commanded to keep the Sabbath and in the New Testament we see Jews, Jesus, and the apostles doing the same thing, then why do we worship on Sunday?
First of all, of the 10 commandments listed in Exodus 20:1-17, only 9 of them were reinstituted in the New Testament: five in Matt. 19:18, murder, adultery, stealing, false witness, and honor parents; in Rom. 13:9, coveting; worshiping God properly covers the first three commandments. The one that was not reaffirmed was the one about the Sabbath. Instead, Jesus said that He is the Lord of the Sabbath (Matt. 12:8).
Upon the completion of Creation, God rested on the seventh day. However, since God is all-powerful, He doesn’t get tired. He doesn’t need to take a break and rest. So, why did/does it say that He rested? The reason is simple: Mark 2:27 says, "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath." In other words, God established the Sabbath as a rest for His people--not because He needed a break but because we are mortal and need a time of rest--a time to focus on God. In this, our spirits and bodies are both renewed.
The Old Testament system of Law required keeping the Sabbath as part of the overall moral, legal, and sacrificial system by which the Jewish people satisfied God’s requirements for behavior, government, and forgiveness of sins. The Sabbath was part of the Law in that sense. In order to "remain" in favor with God, you had to also keep the Sabbath. If it was not kept, then the person was in sin and would often be punished (Ezekiel 18:4; Rom. 6:23; Deut. 13:1-9; Num. 35:31; Lev. 20:2, etc.).
But with Jesus’ atonement, we are no longer required to keep the Law. We are not under Law but grace (Rom. 6:14-15). The Sabbath is fulfilled in Jesus. He is our rest. We are not under obligation, by Law, to keep it; and this goes for the Sabbath as well. It is not a requirement that we keep the Sabbath. If it were, then we would still be under the Law; but we are not.
Evidence of the Change of Days can be Seen in the NT
The New Testament has ample evidence that the seventh day Sabbath is no longer a requirement.
•Rom. 14:5-6, "One man regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Let each man be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God."
The entire section of Rom. 14:1-12 is worth careful study. Nevertheless, the instructions here are that individuals must be convinced in their own minds about which day they observe for the Lord. If the seventh day Sabbath were a requirement, then the choice would not be man's but God’s.
•Col. 2:16-17, "Therefore let no one act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day--17things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ."
Notice here that time sequence mentioned. A festival is yearly. A new moon is monthly. A Sabbath is weekly. No one is to judge regarding this. The Sabbath is defined as a shadow; the reality is Jesus. Jesus is our Sabbath.
•Acts 20:7, "And on the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, Paul began talking to them, intending to depart the next day, and he prolonged his message until midnight."
The first day of the week is Sunday, and this is the day the people gathered. This passage can easily be seen as the church meeting on Sunday. It has two important church functions within it: breaking bread (communion) and a message (preaching). Additionally, Luke did not use the Jewish system of counting days: sundown to sundown. He used the Roman system: midnight to midnight. This is a subtle point that shows the Jewish Sabbath system was not the one utilized by Luke.
•1 Cor. 16:1-2, "Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I directed the churches of Galatia, so do you also. 2 On the first day of every week let each one of you put aside and save, as he may prosper, that no collections be made when I come."
Notice here that Paul is directing the churches to meet on the first day of each week and put money aside. It would seem that this is tithing. So, the instructed time for the church to meet is Sunday. Is this an official worship day set up by the church? You decide.
•Rev. 1:10-11, "I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day, and I heard behind me a loud voice like the sound of a trumpet, 11saying, "Write in a book what you see, and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus and to Smyrna and to Pergamum and to Thyatira and to Sardis and to Philadelphia and to Laodicea."
The New Bible Dictionary says regarding the term, ‘The Lord’s Day’ in Revelation 1:10: "This is the first extant occurrence in Christian literature of τῇ κυριακῇ ἡμέρᾳ, "ta kuriaka hamera." The adjectival construction suggests that it was a formal designation of the church’s worship day. As such, it certainly appears early in the 2nd century (Ignatius, Epistle to the Magnesians, 1. 67).
In many churches today, the term "The Lord’s Day" is used to designate Sunday--the same as it was in the second century.
I hope this is evidence enough to show you that the Bible does not require that we worship on Saturday. If anything, we have the freedom (Rom. 14:1-12) to worship on the day that we believe we should. And, no one should judge us regarding the day we keep. We are free in Christ and not under law (Rom. 6:14).
For more see our videos: "Is Sabbath Keeping Essential to Be a Real Christian? Former SDA Pastor Answers This Question" at th-cam.com/video/w0L3rSSL_H8/w-d-xo.html & "Sabbath Keeping Is Not Required For New Testament Christians: Seventh-Day Adventists Beware" at th-cam.com/video/TEFt4TOR6E8/w-d-xo.html & check out our comments underneath these videos in the comments section. 2 Timothy 2:15
PRISTON S MVEVO - This is for any hypocritical Seventh-day Advents that may reply to these comments here since they themselves do not keep the Sabbath the proper way that the Bible says to keep the Sabbath - Seventh-day Adventism is a damnable cult of a demon possessed woman because she claimed a person could not make it through the 1844 investigative judgment of Christ (see our video "Cult Doctrine of Seventh-day Adventism: 1844 Probation & Satan As A Final Sin Bearer for Adventists" at th-cam.com/video/J50HlZFYHtY/w-d-xo.html) without keeping the Sabbath. By making Sabbath Keeping a requirement for salvation the Seventh-day Adventists commit the same type of damnable heresy as the Judaizers did in Galatians 1:6-9 who only required circumcision. Ellen G. White required a lot more things to achieve salvation for her deluded investigative probation judgment (including the "Reform Dress" for women) & many other things than the Judaizers, who were damned by the apostle Paul, ever dreamed of. Ellen G. White makes the Judaizers look like antinomians! Of course both groups are destined for hell in the end. Besides all this Seventh-day Adventists as well as the Black Hebrew Israelites (see our video "Myths of the Black Hebrew Israelites: Theological Racism, Black King James Only, Apocrypha, Whites" at th-cam.com/video/9TiqBceXoH8/w-d-xo.html) & others do not keep the Sabbath the way the Old Testament says to keep the Sabbath thus they are self deluded hypocrites to say the least.
HOW TO KEEP THE SABBATH
What Is required in keeping the Sabbath according to Mosaic Law:
1. No work done at all (Ex. 20: 10; Lev. 23: 3; Jer. 17:21-22). No watering the lawn, no working in the yard, no hobbies, no surfing, no fixing flat tires, etc. By law if a person did not stop all types of activity in honor of the Sabbath, he was breaking the law. In Numbers 15:32-36 a man was caught collecting sticks on the Sabbath, and he received a rock concert from the people he knew.
2 No kindling of a fire (Ex. 35:3). No fellowship cookouts or barbecues. You can't go into a restaurant and get a hamburger that's been flame broiled, you can't cook eggs, or pancakes in the morning because you'd be kindling a fire for cooking. To drive a car would be to "kindle a fire" In the combustion chamber of your engine.
3. No traveling (Ex. 16:29). Later the Jews added to this law, allowing only a half mile of travel on the Sabbath which we see observed in the NT. But the pure law says "stay at home." Actually, If you kept this part of the law, you could not travel to your church gathering unless it was less than one-quarter mile away from home. If you had an emergency you could not drive to the hospital.
4. No trading (Amos 8:5). If you happened to need gas to get to church service, you could not "trade" money for gasoline. You would not be allowed to buy a cassette tape of that morning's message or a book at the store. There is to be No exchanging of money for goods. If you worked with stocks and you needed to sell you couldn’t.
5. No marketing (Neh. 10:31; 13:15,19). Make sure you do no shopping whatsoever. You can't buy any ice cream for dessert after dinner or anything else. If you run out of food or drink at home you can’t go out to purchase any, you can’t even by a stick of gum.
6."... a holy assembly with double the daily offering along with the other offerings. In other words, you are to give twice as much on the Sabbath (Num. 28:9).Do we practiced this today In compliance with Old Testament law. Do Sabbatarian's really practice the law? I have yet to see people go to Shabbat and give twice as much each week.
7. New showbread In the holy place (Lev. 24:8). Of course this cannot be done today since there is no temple, so this part of the Sabbath cannot be followed by the church. The fact Is the Sabbath was not made for the gentiles, but for the Jews and their generations Ex. 31:12-17). It's a law given between God and the Jews.
8.The last part of the requirements for keeping the Sabbath day law Is the penalty for breaking It. DEATH!
Titus 1:9-16
PS 147:19-20 ""He shewed His word unto Jacob, His statutes and His judgments unto Israel [not the Gentles]
He has not dealt so with any other nation: and as for His judgments, they have not known them. Praise you the LORD." The Law was given to the Jews not the Gentles. ACTS 15:24 "Forasmuch as we [the Apostles] have heard, that certain ones which went out from us have troubled you [Gentles] with words, subverting your souls, saying, You must be circumcised, and keep the Law: to whom we gave no such commandment:" ACTS 15:28-29 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you [Gentles] no greater burden than these necessary things; That you abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if you keep yourselves, you shall do well. Fare you well."
Gentles are a law unto themselves says ROM 2:14 who have similar moral laws as says the 10 Commandments but not exactly the same [no Sabbath law] It is by this moral code written in the heart of the Gentles that the Gentles are convicted of sin and therefore their need for Christ.
WoW!! Every day is a good day to serve the Lord. How could you not?
@@CAnswersTV All of this and it wasn't even meant 4 them (us) in the 1st place
It has always seemed odd to me that when a sabbath keeper tells a Sunday keeper that they rest on the seventh day according to the commandment, the Sunday keeper accuses the sabbath keeper of trying to work their way into heaven!! Working by resting! A strange idea!!
@stevefitzgerald846 - Someone on TH-cam made the following comments on one of our videos dealing with Seventh-day Adventism: "The only thing I agree with that the SDA church do is keep the Sabbath. But I disagree with that fact that they say that Jesus nailed all of the required Feast days and can celebrate the pagan holidays that the world celebrates, Christmas, New Year's day, etc. Ellen G. White's doctrine is not true." When told what the Old Testament requirements for keeping the Sabbath were this TH-cam viewer said in response, "I already do all of that. Been doing it for years."
My response: So you're telling the world here in this TH-cam comments section that you have kept the Sabbath perfectly just like the Old Testament has it laid out meaning no work, no fire, no traveling, no trading, no marketing, double offerings on Sabbaths, having new show bread in the holy place, & a death penalty for breaking the Sabbath?! That's amazing! Where on this planet do you live? Do you live in Alaska for instance? How about the modern state of Israel? Do you live somewhere in the United States? South Pole? Sabbath Keeping is virtually impossible in the United States did you know that? Sabbath Keeping is genuinely impossible in an advanced industrial society, that is interdependent on various forms of labor that are necessary 7 days a week, 24 hours a day. Modern sabbatarians are hypocrites, because the fourth commandment, if followed today, would require that Christians refuse to use electricity and heating in their homes and churches on the Sabbath. We often pride ourselves on the efficiency of modern technology, forgetting that many men and women must go to work and operate the machines that provide the power the fuel for our gadgets. These workers are committing Sabbatarian capital crimes each Sabbath, and every Christian sabbatarian who uses these gadgets, apart from some legitimate emergency, sends people to hell every Sabbath, morning and evening, as he sits in the comfort of his air-conditioned church. If the sabbatarian creeds are correct, then sabbatarians are weekly condemning others to the flames of eternal torment, just so they can sit in 75-degree comfort.
Sabbath Keeping, if it were placed anywhere NEAR being a national priority, would instantly lead to the complete collapse of Western Civilization. Judaism has broached this massive fatal flaw in Sabbath Keeping with aggressive measures to avoid Sabbath Breaking:
Electricity on Shabbat in Jewish law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_on_Shabbat
Electricity on Shabbat - Parshat Vayakhel - Mitzvahs & Traditions, www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1159378/jewish/Electricity-on-Shabbat.htm .
This still comes nowhere near to fixing the problem.
Every Sabbath, tens of millions of workers all across the industrialized west obediently troop to work in vital industries that we take for granted. Millions of governmental employees, whose salaries are paid directly by Sabbath Keepers and their tax dollars, work on Saturday. If they didn't, society would come to a immediate and screeching half. The vast Federal Government alone - with the air force, navy, army and marines working 24/7, and most government employees at the least bringing some work home to do on Saturday; results in Tens of Millions of workers breaking the Sabbath, in order to directly benefit those who claim they are "Keeping the Sabbath." Not as long as you pay your taxes, your utility bills, your telephone and internet bills: All of those things mean you are paying people who "work" for you every Sabbath. These people are working for your benefit, and you have paid them.
People pretend and lie to themselves that this is not happening, because everything you buy has a "buffer" that deceives you into thinking you aren't doing something when you actually are. Paying with money for your goods and services is like Pontius Pilate in a way: You get to "wash your hands" of all of the obvious Sabbath Breaking that you have paid for, and you don't need to think about the reality of what you are actually doing. When the Sabbath was in play in the ancient land of Israel, it was workable. Not now.
The Israelite Society that was plainly the subject of the Mosaic Law was agrarian, primitive and homogeneous ethnically. Society could and did shut down completely on the Sabbath. No other society that has ever existed since then has had that ability. And no other society ever will again. The idea that ANYONE in an industrialized society can "keep the Sabbath" is just an elaborate fairy tale.
Do you know of anyone that even TRIES? I know of NO Sabbatarian Christian that even TRIES. It would require the following:
- Withholding all taxes and be willing to go to prison for tax evasion;
-Foregoing ALL utilities...electricity, internet and so on...since whether you use them or not, when you pay your bill, you are directly paying for people to break the Sabbath;
-Driving a car on the Sabbath is breaking the Sabbath millions of times: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driving_on_Shabbat
Basically, it would require living in some pre-modern, primitive way that was "completely off the grid." You couldn't even be attached to a municipal sewer system, since sewage treatment goes on 24/7. You couldn't even have an off-site storage unit that draws electricity.
The Sabbath was no longer in effect. Jesus flaunted breaking the Sabbath, and it wasn't just "rules." He never ONCE said anything about the "rules" being the problem. The problem identified by both he and Paul was the "Law" in its entirety. NEVER did they distinguish between the "rules" and manmade "Traditions"; and the "Law": That is yet another fairy tale told by Sabbatarians.
Nothing in the New Testament suggests keeping the Sabbath in a different way than it had always been kept.
The 4th Commandment on its face prohibits your employees from working for you. What "man-made" rule made THAT impossible to keep?
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
The commandment on its face explicitly forbids paying ANYONE to work for you on the Sabbath. That was easy to do in the Second Temple era. It is impossible to do now. That is no mere "man made rule" that is at issue: The Commandment is CLEAR and unambiguous on its face. You pay your taxes and you pay your utility bills, there are "manservants" and "maidservants" who are GOING to be "working: for YOU. And working for YOU on the Sabbath. That cop patrolling on Sabbath is working for YOU. That electrical lineman fixing a transformer is working for YOU. And YOU paid that cop and that lineman. This is not a mere "rule" that sets out how far you can walk on the Sabbath. It is a blunt prohibition against ANYONE "working" for YOU on the Sabbath.
Jesus fulfilled the law. It pointed to him. He made it. It was OVER. See our video "The 613 Laws of Moses are Over - Faith in Christ Has Now Taken Over" at th-cam.com/video/q6QVBFBSAzA/w-d-xo.html .
@@CAnswersTV I agree with you
See our video "Adam & the Ten Commandments - Are the Commandments Creation Ordinances & Eternal Moral Laws of God?" at th-cam.com/video/DtNOycuiPMM/w-d-xo.html. NEW COVENANT THEOLOGY by Dr. Gary D. Long* (www.ptsco.org). A. NCT Defined. NCT may be defined broadly as "God’s eternal purpose progressively revealed in the commandments and promises of the biblical covenants of the OT and fulfilled in the New Covenant (NC) of Jesus Christ. Its major themes may be summarily described with reference to:
(1) God’s eternal purpose of redemption: covenantally revealed and
administered through biblical covenants beginning with a pre-Fall
covenant of obedience with Adam (Rom. 5:12-19) and a post-Fall covenant of promise (Gen. 3:15): (2) Hermeneutics: consistent interpretation of the OT in light of the NT (Luke 24:27, 44; II Cor. 1:20);
(3) The people of God: all the elect of God throughout time first
constituted as the church at Pentecost (Acts 2), but not before (John 7:39; 17:21; Col. 1:26-27; Heb. 11:39-40), as one corporate spiritual body in union with Christ (I Cor. 12:13; Eph. 2:19-21; Col. 1:18, 24); and (4) The law of God; the two greatest commandments of God-love of God and neighbor (Matt. 22:36-40)-are innate law known instinctively by man (Rom. 2:14-15) created in God’s image (Gen. 1:27).
Upon these two greatest commandments all the Law and the Prophets
depend as administered under biblical covenants which culminate in the
NC law of Christ (I Cor. 9:20-21;
Gal. 6:2; Heb. 8:6, 13: James 2:8; I John 5:3). Innate law is righteous
and unchanging; covenantal law is written, righteous and changeable
(Heb. 7:12) worked out in history in accordance with God’s eternal purpose (Eph. 1:11; 3:11;
II Tim. 1:9).
B. NCT Described. NCT is a developing system of theology that strives to
provide a more accurate way to interpret the Scriptures by questioning
key theological presuppositions which undergird the principles of
interpretation (hermeneutics) that exist in both Covenant Theology (CT)
and Dispensational Theology (DT). NCT is based upon a redemptive history
approach to understanding the fulfillment of God’s eternal purpose on
earth. Its Christotelic Hermeneutic with Christ as the focus "in all the
Scriptures" (Luke 24:27)
is based upon a biblical theology that stresses the theology of the
Bible itself. NCT challenges explanation of the theological
presuppositions of the one overarching covenant of grace teaching of CT,
including its understanding of the "moral law" of God and the nature of
the Church. NCT also challenges the two redemptive purposes of DT, one
for the Church and one for Israel, and it challenges some of DT’s
presuppositions and literal hermeneutic for understanding key elements
of Bible prophecy. The driving motive of NCT is "Back to the Bible." NCT
emphasizes the inductive study of the Bible. A major objective of NCT
is that its hermeneutic will help bring doctrinal unity in this
sin-wrecked world by helping to break down the middle walls of doctrinal
partition that exist between DT and CT.
C. NCT Characteristics. The following lists some of the major NCT
characteristics. NCT teaches that:
1. The discernment of the Holy Spirit is absolutely essential for
accurately handling the Word of God because there is no authentic
leading of the Holy Spirit that is not contextually wedded to the words
of the Bible (I Cor. 2:13-14; II Tim. 2:15; 3:16).
(NCT is not affiliated with present-day "New Calvinism" and
"Charismatic Calvinism.")
2. The most important principle of interpretation is "contextual
biblical exegesis." It demands grammatical/historical/theological
principles of interpretation.
3. The imputation of Adam’s first sin to all mankind (Rom. 5:12d, 18a-19a), the elect’s sin to Christ (II Cor. 5:21), and Christ’s righteousness to the elect (Rom. 5:18b-19b)
are vital for the Christian faith. Without the doctrine of imputation
the whole doctrine of the substitutionary atonement and justification by
faith alone in Christ alone are undermined (Rom. 5:12-19).
4. The type anti-type teaching of Adam and Christ in Romans 5:12-19
demands that a covenant relationship existed between God and Adam both
before and after the Fall.
5. God’s plan of salvation is revealed and administered according to His
eternal purpose (II Tim. 1:9) through the unfolding of biblical
covenants in the flow of redemptive history, but not as explained
through the theologically deduced system of CT’s Covenant of
Works/Covenant of Grace/Covenant of Redemption schema.
6. Christians "are not under law (hupo nomon), but under grace (hupo
charin)" (Rom. 6:14),
meaning that the believer in Christ is no longer under the Mosaic law
as covenant law but under the grace of the NC-a covenant that not only
has the internal leading of the Holy Spirit (Rom. 8:4, 11), but also
external commands to be obeyed (Rom. 12:9-21), summed up in the NC
declaration: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself" (Rom. 13:8-10;
Gal. 5:14).
7. The law of God is both absolute and covenantal (Matt. 5:17-20).
God’s "absolute law" is innate, written on the heart of man created in
the image of God. It is God’s unchanging standard of righteousness.
God’s "covenantal law," however, is written and changeable according to
the covenant being administered.
8. The love of God and the love of neighbor are the two greatest
commandments (Matt. 22:36-40)
upon which the whole Law and the Prophets hang. This means that the Ten
Commandments, the Decalogue, hang upon these two greatest commandments,
not the reverse as CT teaches.
9. The Ten Commandments are a covenantal outworking of the two greatest
commandments in redemptive history, not the reverse. They were given
through the hand of Moses to the nation of Israel first at Mount Sinai
(Exod. 20).
10. The Fourth Commandment, the Sabbath Commandment, being the sign of
the Mosaic Covenant (Exod. 31:15-17),
is not a creation ordinance as taught by CT.
11. The Ten Commandments are not moral law "forever," first written in
the heart of man at creation and forever binding upon all mankind as CT
teaches in its confessions of faith; e.g., the Westminster Confession of
Faith (1647-49) and the Second London Baptist Confession of Faith
(1677/1689). In fact the term "moral law" does not occur in the original
languages of the Bible. Although under any given covenantal
administration, man is morally obligated to obey all of God’s
commandments, yet the Bible does not separate God’s law into three
parts: moral, ceremonial and civil. Historically, this threefold
separation was not substantially taught until the time of Thomas Aquinas
in the 13th century and in the 16th century by Calvin.
12. The Decalogue is not "transcovenantal" and, therefore, does not
function outside the Old Covenant as a unit as much of CT teaches.
13. Christ came not to destroy the OT Scriptures but to fulfill them,
which includes the Decalogue (Matt. 5:17-18). The New Covenant law of Christ is distinguished from the Mosaic law (Luke 9:35) and from the Gentiles who do not have a written revelation of God’s law (I Cor. 9:20-21).
14. The law of Christ is not to be equated with the Decalogue. Although
the law of Christ, the law of the NC people of God, is related to the
Decalogue in that it incorporates nine of the Ten Commandments. The law
of Christ is a better law than the law of Moses (Matt. 5:21-48; Heb. 7:19) in the sense that (1) it is a higher revelation of the righteousness of God (Matt. 5:20);
(2) it is based upon a higher standard of love (Matt. 5:44);
and (3) Christ’s inauguration of the New Covenant brings in things that
are qualitatively "newer," expressed in developing the theological
significance of such basic concepts as new wineskins, new teaching, new
commandment, new creation, new man, new name, new song, New Jerusalem
and all things new (Rev. 21:5).
15. The OC Sabbath commandment is typologically fulfilled by Christ for
the people of God who rest in Him by faith (Heb. 4:9-10; Col. 2:16-17).
16. New Covenant believers are in-lawed to Christ; they are not under the OC law of Moses but under the grace of the NC (Rom. 6:14).
NCT does not equate the law of Christ with the Decalogue as do many
holding to CT.
17. The indwelling of the Holy Spirit is the norm for Christian living.
NCT does not teach that the Ten Commandments are the only objective
standard for evaluating the Christian life. Rather, NCT emphasizes that
it is the Spirit who through Scripture enables the Christian to have a
godly walk (Rom. 8:4) acknowledging that all Scripture is profitable for
instruction in righteousness (II Tim. 3:16).
18. Christ merited righteousness for the elect only and imputed it to
them based upon His total obedience to the will of the Father in His
life and death (Matt. 3:15; Rom. 5:19).
*Gary D. Long, Th.D., is the Faculty President of Providence Theological Seminary located in Colorado Springs, CO. www.ptsco.org; info@ptsco.org.
spritual saneness will only exist when spiritual matters become ones concern and this will come into reality if only we read and understand the bible. We should not follow people blindly especially in their beliefs about God, but rather we should first know the real truth about God. Beware of malingerers.
It's not about being righteous; its about being true to yourself. It's about evolving within the Love of God, and at the same time allowing yourself to acknowledge, that there will always be those times when you could have thought and done things better.
Attempting to attain righteousness through law, which is what the history of Israel is about, is futility. Law is a standard which none under it can ever perfectly attain, consciously or unconsciously. (We all break the speed limit, knowingly or unknowingly.)
Following a standard of good and bad doesn't make you feel good, it makes you feel bad. This is because it always reveals your shortcomings. This is also why for those under the Law of Moses it resulted in a defiled consience and condemnation. And there was never any escape.
It's when you're set free from trying to attain anything and are being your true self as one who is moved (as I believe we all are) from the persuasion and ethic of Love, that you mature and reveal "righteousness".
And I also believe that if the siblings in a family have respect on each others belief their father would be grateful.
See our video called " Inspired Racism by Seventh-day Adventist Ellen White:Jesus was a white man, Blacks will become white" at th-cam.com/video/3zPcVdc3KEw/w-d-xo.html . See "Ellen White's "Inspired" Bigotry, Racism, and Discrimination!" at www.cultorchristian.com/egwbigotry.html. "'The Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, Whom the Father will send in My name, He shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance.' You are the children of God. He has adopted you, and He desires you to form characters here that will give you entrance into the heavenly family. Remembering this, you will be able to bear the trials which you meet here. In heaven there will be no color line; for all will be as white as Christ himself. Let us thank God that we can be members of the royal family." (The Gospel Herald, 03-01-1901, "Trust in God," paragraph 20, from a "Talk given by Mrs. E. G. White to the church for the colored in Vicksburg, Sabbath, March 16, 1901.").
See our playlist, "Dealing with Seventh-day Adventism & Their "Prophetess"" with 48 videos at th-cam.com/play/PL5316CC6F66F24283.html. Please examine the following important websites: www.lifeassuranceministries.com, www.lifeassuranceministries.org, www.FormerAdventist.com, & www.TruthorFables.com. Email: proclamation@gmail.com for free materials.
Larry Wessels, director of Christian Answers of Austin, Texas/ Christian Debater (TH-cam Channel CANSWERSTV at th-cam.com/users/CAnswersTVfeatured; websites: www.BibleQuery.org, www.HistoryCart.com, & www.MuslimHope.com, email: cdebater@aol.com) speaks on the racist background & teachings of the Seventh-day Adventist religion.
For a list of Ellen G. White's failed "visions" supposedly from God see www.truthorfables.com/menu/subjectsa-1e.html.
E. G. White has written two statements on amalgamation that has caused much embarrassment through the years in the Seventh-day Adventist Church because they are not Biblical or biologically true. Several Adventist apologists have written books and articles in a vain attempt to explain Ellen's nonsense.
"But if there was one sin above another which called for the destruction of the race by the flood, it was the base crime of amalgamation of man and beast which defaced the image of God, and caused confusion everywhere." -Spiritual Gifts, Vol. 3, p. 64, 1864.
"Every species of animal which God had created, were preserved in the ark. The confused species which God did not create, which were the result of amalgamation, were destroyed by the flood. Since the flood there has been amalgamation of man and beast, as may be seen in the endless varieties of species of animals and certain races of men." -Spiritual Gifts, Vol. 3, p.75, 1864.
In the second quote Ellen is saying:
1.Every species that God created were preserved in the ark.
2.The confused species that were the result of amalgamation were not allowed on the ark and were destroyed by the flood.
3.Since the flood there have been amalgamation of man and beast and may be seen today in species of animals and certain races of men. We are asked to believe that there are part human and part beast creatures about us today as there was before the flood.
Uriah Smith Comes to Ellen's Defense in 1868
1. There was offspring living in Ellen and Smith's day that was the result of amalgamation.
2. Some of "the confused species" that Ellen failed to name Smith jumped right in and named them. He named the wild Bushmen of Africa, some tribes of Hottentots also from Africa, Digger Indians from America and Patagonians from South America.
3. Smith believed as did the evolutionist that, "Moreover, naturalists affirm that the line of demarkation between human and animal races is lost in confusion." It is impossible as they affirm, to tell, just where the human ends and the animal begin. Can we suppose that this was so ordained of God in the beginning? Smith did not know that human blood and animal blood do not merge into one blood.
4. That these black people should be treated as human because they had human blood in them from Adam.
Ellen White stated, "The colored people should not urge that they be placed on an equality with white people. The relation of the two races has been a matter hard to deal with, and I fear that it will ever remain a most perplexing problem.
"I know that if we attempt to meet the ideas and preferences of some of the colored people, we shall find our way blocked completely. The work of proclaiming the truth for this time is not to be hindered by an effort to adjust the position of the Negro race. Should we attempt to do this we should find that barriers like mountains would be raised to hinder the work that God desires to have done." (Testimonies for the Church, Volume Nine, page 214 paragraph 3-page 215 paragraph 0.)
"I think I have already written that the colored people should not urge that they be placed on an equality with white people.--Letter 202, 1903, p. 2. (To J. E. White and wife, September 11, 1903.)" (Manuscript Releases, Volume Four, page 23, paragraph 2.).
Matthew 7:15, "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves."
I thought I had read everything she wrote many years ago, but I don't remember any of this. It literally makes me feel sick to my stomach. I am embarrassed for humanity.
For more on the question "Can true Christians lose their salvation?" please go to the following links: "True Christians Cannot Lose Their Salvation But Fake & Deluded "Christians" Never Had It At All" at th-cam.com/video/meUD2vCv3oo/w-d-xo.html, "Losing Salvation Sermons on Sermon Audio" at www.sermonaudio.com/search.asp?currsection=sermonstopic&keyword=losing+salvation, "Can the Christian believer lose his salvation?" at carm.org/can-believer-lose-his-salvation, "ETERNAL SECURITY: Based in the Tri-Unity of God" at vintage.aomin.org/eternalsecurity.html, "DEBATE: 2 Cor. 13:14, Each Person (Father, Son & Holy Spirit) of the Trinity Actively Saves Sinners?" at th-cam.com/video/Fmf-BtnJJ3U/w-d-xo.html & "The Sovereignty of God Versus Man-Made Religions, Hollywood Movies & Petty Emotionalism" at th-cam.com/video/1UQABR_9gGI/w-d-xo.html.
We may live in a culture that believes everyone will be saved, that we
are “justified by death” and all you need to do to go to heaven is die,
but God’s Word certainly doesn’t give us the luxury of believing that.
Any quick and honest reading of the New Testament shows that the
Apostles were convinced that nobody can go to heaven unless they believe
in Christ alone for their salvation (John 14:6; Rom. 10:9-10).
Historically, evangelical Christians have largely agreed on this point.
Where they have differed has been on the matter of the security of
salvation. People who would otherwise agree that only those who trust in
Jesus will be saved have disagreed on whether anyone who truly believes
in Christ can lose his salvation.
Theologically speaking, what we are talking about here is the concept of
apostasy. This term comes from a Greek word that means “to stand away
from.” When we talk about those who have become apostate or have
committed apostasy, we’re talking about those who have fallen from the
faith or at least from the profession of faith in Christ that they
once made.
Many believers have held that yes, true Christians can lose their
salvation because there are several New Testament texts that seem to
indicate that this can happen. I’m thinking, for example, of Paul’s
words in 1 Timothy 1:18-20:
This charge I entrust to you, Timothy, my child, in accordance with the
prophecies previously made about you, that by them you may wage the good
warfare, holding faith and a good conscience. By rejecting this, some
have made shipwreck of their faith, among whom are Hymenaeus and
Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan that they may learn not to
blaspheme.
Here, in the midst of instructions and admonitions related to Timothy’s
life and ministry, Paul warns Timothy to keep the faith and to keep a
good conscience, and to be reminded of those who didn’t. The Apostle
refers to those who made “shipwreck of their faith,” men whom he “handed
over to Satan that they may learn not to blaspheme.” This second point
is a reference to Paul’s excommunication of these men, and the whole
passage combines a sober warning with concrete examples of those who
fell away grievously from their Christian profession.
There is no question that professing believers can fall and fall
radically. We think of men like Peter, for example, who denied Christ.
But the fact that he was restored shows that not every professing
believer who falls has fallen past the point of no return. At this
point, we should distinguish a serious and radical fall from a total and
final fall. Reformed theologians have noted that the Bible is full of
examples of true believers who fall into gross sin and even protracted
periods of impenitence. So, Christians do fall and they fall radically.
What could be more serious than Peter’s public denial of Jesus Christ?
But the question is, are these people who are guilty of a real fall
irretrievably fallen and eternally lost, or is this fall a temporary
condition that will, in the final analysis, be remedied by their
restoration? In the case of a person such as Peter, we see that his fall
was remedied by his repentance. However, what about those who fall away
finally? Were they ever truly believers in the first place?
Our answer to this question has to be no. First John 2:19
speaks of the false teachers who went out from the church as never
having truly been part of the church. John describes the apostasy of
people who had made a profession of faith but who never really were
converted. Moreover, we know that God glorifies all whom He justifies
(Rom. 8:29-30).
If a person has true saving faith and is justified, God will preserve
that person.
In the meantime, however, if the person who has fallen is still alive,
how do we know if he is a full apostate? One thing none of us can do is
read the heart of other people. When I see a person who has made a
profession of faith and later repudiates it, I don’t know whether he is a
truly regenerate person who’s in the midst of a serious, radical fall
but who will at some point in the future certainly be restored; or
whether he is a person who was never really converted, whose profession
of faith was false from the start.
This question of whether a person can lose his salvation is not an
abstract question. It touches us at the very core of our Christian
lives, not only with regard to our concerns for our own perseverance,
but also with regard to our concern for our family and friends,
particularly those who seemed, for all outward appearances, to have made
a genuine profession of faith. We thought their profession was
credible, we embraced them as brothers or sisters, only to find out that
they repudiated that faith.
What do you do, practically, in a situation like that? First, you pray,
and then, you wait. We don’t know the final outcome of the situation,
and I’m sure there are going to be surprises when we get to heaven.
We’re going to be surprised to see people there who we didn’t think
would be, and we’re going to be surprised that we don’t see people there
who we were sure would be there, because we simply don’t know the
internal status of a human heart or of a human soul. Only God can see
that soul, change that soul, and preserve that soul.
Does Revelation 22:18-19
prove you can lose your salvation? As we approach this subject, it is
important to read the Scripture rather than our present ideas and
theology into the Word. What does the text say? It says:Rev. 22:18
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of
this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto
him the plagues that are written in this book:Rev. 22:19
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this
prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out
of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Rev. 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.Rev. 22:21
The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen. Notice that
the text does not indicate that the person’s name is erased from the
Book of life. It simply says, God will take the person’s part out of the
book of life. We must be careful here not to misinterpret the text. In
the study of Scripture, an important rule for biblical interpretation
exists in hermeneutics. It implies that we should always interpret the
obscure passages in light of the more clear passages of Holy Scripture. A
good student of the Word of God understands that the Bible does not
contradict itself, therefore, the unclear passages (very few exist) must
be interpreted in light of the more clear passages.In this text, we
have a controversial subject. Is it possible to lose your salvation?
Some denominations insist that it is possible to fall from grace.
However, their arguments are usually built upon small unclear passages
rather than the entire testimony of the Bible. Here we have a warning
about adding and subtracting from the Word of God. Some have argued that
this one passage indicates that a person can have their name in the
Lamb’s book of life and then erased out when they seek to harm the
inspired text. In order to cover this subject, it is important that we
view this possibility in light of Holy Scripture. Ephesians 1:4-5 -
According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the
world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to
himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, If God did what
Ephesians 1:4-5 claims - why would He later erase their name from the
book of life and take away their inheritance from the Holy City? Does it
make sense at all? Ephesians 1:11
- In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated
according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel
of his own will: Notice what this text says. It says we have obtained.
The point Paul is making is very clear. Those to whom God has elected
before the foundation of the world, have already obtained an inheritance
in Christ Jesus. The inheritance will not be possessed until later -
but the point is clear - what Christ accomplished on the cross for those
to whom the Father elected - it is waiting on them in eternity.
The Biblical doctrine of the eternal security for the Christian
believer is not an endorsement of the heresy of antinomianism, see our
videos "Apostate Grace Evangelical Society (GES) Teaches Phony Grace
& the Easy Believism of Another Gospel" at th-cam.com/video/wMMvdPtyYvM/w-d-xo.html & "Christ Has Fulfilled & Replaced the Law of Moses With Higher Laws of the New Covenant,Hebrews 8:6-13" at th-cam.com/video/EkZ2Cn8TLzE/w-d-xo.html. 2 Timothy 2:15
See our playlist, "Dealing with Seventh-day Adventism & Their "Prophetess"" with 33 videos & counting at th-cam.com/play/PL5316CC6F66F24283.html. See also the website www.TruthorFables.com.
Seventh-day Adventists do not seem to understand that true Christians do not need the teachings of their so-called "prophetess" Ellen G. White (born November 26, 1827) or her spiritual mentor William Miller (born February 15, 1782) who said, "My principles in brief, are, that Jesus Christ will come again to this earth, cleanse, purify, and take possession of the same, with all the saints, sometime between March 21, 1843, and March 21, 1844." Even though another Millerite follower named
Samuel S. Snow predicted the return of Christ on October 22, 1844 which
Ellen White also believed, all of these prophecies proved to be false
making all of these people false prophets (Deuteronomy 18:20-22,
"But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which
I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of
other gods, even that prophet shall die. 21 And if thou say in thine
heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken? 22
When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow
not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken,
but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid
of him."). Ellen G. White & the rest of them also violated Jesus'
words in Matthew 24:36,
"But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven,
but my Father only." True Christians throughout the centuries before
Ellen G. White have followed Jesus Christ faithfully through His Word (2
Timothy 3:15-17) thus invalidating the need for this woman completely. Matthew 7:15, "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." See our videos Former Seventh-day Adventist Pastor for 13 Years Gives His Testimony Why Adventism is Wrong & Is Sabbath Keeping Essential to Be a Real Christian? Former SDA Pastor Answers This Question. Titus 1:9-16
This is what ill ask... Tell me the Words in Ellen Whites writings that is against Gods word
Charito Gimena - Seventh-day Adventism is a damnable cult of a demon possessed woman because she claimed a person could not make it through the 1844 investigative judgment of Christ (see our video "Cult Doctrine of Seventh-day Adventism: 1844 Probation & Satan As A Final Sin Bearer for Adventists" at th-cam.com/video/J50HlZFYHtY/w-d-xo.html) without keeping the Sabbath. By making Sabbath Keeping a requirement for salvation the Seventh-day Adventists commit the same type of damnable heresy as the Judaizers did in Galatians 1:6-9 who only required circumcision. Ellen G. White required a lot more things to achieve salvation for her deluded investigative probation judgment (including the "Reform Dress" for women) & many other things than the Judaizers, who were damned by the apostle Paul, ever dreamed of. Ellen G. White makes the Judaizers look like antinomians! Of course both groups are destined for hell in the end. Besides all this Seventh-day Adventists as well as the Black Hebrew Israelites (see our video "Myths of the Black Hebrew Israelites: Theological Racism, Black King James Only, Apocrypha, Whites" at th-cam.com/video/9TiqBceXoH8/w-d-xo.html) & others do not keep the Sabbath the way the Old Testament says to keep the Sabbath thus they are self deluded hypocrites to say the least.
HOW TO KEEP THE SABBATH
What Is required in keeping the Sabbath according to Mosaic Law:
1. No work done at all (Ex. 20: 10; Lev. 23: 3; Jer. 17:21-22). No watering the lawn, no working in the yard, no hobbies, no surfing, no fixing flat tires, etc. By law if a person did not stop all types of activity in honor of the Sabbath, he was breaking the law. In Numbers 15:32-36 a man was caught collecting sticks on the Sabbath, and he received a rock concert from the people he knew.
2 No kindling of a fire (Ex. 35:3). No fellowship cookouts or barbecues. You can't go into a restaurant and get a hamburger that's been flame broiled, you can't cook eggs, or pancakes in the morning because you'd be kindling a fire for cooking. To drive a car would be to "kindle a fire" In the combustion chamber of your engine.
3. No traveling (Ex. 16:29). Later the Jews added to this law, allowing only a half mile of travel on the Sabbath which we see observed in the NT. But the pure law says "stay at home." Actually, If you kept this part of the law, you could not travel to your church gathering unless it was less than one-quarter mile away from home. If you had an emergency you could not drive to the hospital.
4. No trading (Amos 8:5). If you happened to need gas to get to church service, you could not "trade" money for gasoline. You would not be allowed to buy a cassette tape of that morning's message or a book at the store. There is to be No exchanging of money for goods. If you worked with stocks and you needed to sell you couldn’t.
5. No marketing (Neh. 10:31; 13:15,19). Make sure you do no shopping whatsoever. You can't buy any ice cream for dessert after dinner or anything else. If you run out of food or drink at home you can’t go out to purchase any, you can’t even by a stick of gum.
6. "... a holy assembly with double the daily offering along with the other offerings. In other words, you are to give twice as much on the Sabbath (Num. 28:9).Do we practiced this today In compliance with Old Testament law. Do Sabbatarian's really practice the law? I have yet to see people go to Shabbat and give twice as much each week.
7. New showbread In the holy place (Lev. 24:8). Of course this cannot be done today since there is no temple, so this part of the Sabbath cannot be followed by the church. The fact Is the Sabbath was not made for the gentiles, but for the Jews and their generations Ex. 31:12-17). It's a law given between God and the Jews.
8. The last part of the requirements for keeping the Sabbath day law Is the penalty for breaking It. DEATH (Numbers 15:32-36)!
Do Seventh-day Adventists keep the Sabbath the way the Bible says to keep it? No because they are religious hypocrites. They don't even stone violators. Exodus 31:14 --"Therefore you are to observe the Sabbath, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it shall surely be put to death; for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people."
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For further evidence against the Seventh-day Adventist religion please see our playlist on TH-cam with 51 videos & counting called "Dealing with Seventh-day Adventism & Their "Prophetess" at th-cam.com/play/PL5316CC6F66F24283.html .
Matthew 7:15-16, “Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they?
CAnswersTV if shes a demon possesed woman..... tell me just one word in her writings only one... that is against the bible then i’ll beleive you
@@charitogimena5645 - Evidence concerning EGW lies. An encyclopedia of information about this is available at the following websites:
www.lifeassuranceministries.com, www.lifeassuranceministries.org, www.FormerAdventist.com, www.TruthorFables.com , www.nonsda.org/ , & www.ellenlied.com/ . Email: proclamation@gmail.com for free materials. For further evidence against the Seventh-day Adventist religion please see our playlist on TH-cam with 51 videos & counting called "Dealing with Seventh-day Adventism & Their "Prophetess" at th-cam.com/play/PL5316CC6F66F24283.html .
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Someone on TH-cam asked if Ellen G. White was guilty of plagiarizing from non-inspired authors.
Our ministry response: It's not good to claim to have visions from God & messages from angels like Ellen White did & at the same time plagiarize from people who were not angels or God, that's just not an honest thing to do. Regarding EGW plagiarism. Walter Rey’s "White Lie" book lists dozens of examples which is available at www.amazon.com/White-Lie-Walter-T-Rea/dp/0960742417/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=the+white+lie&qid=1572377398&s=books&sr=1-3 . Another book, "White Washed" by former Adventist pastor Sydney Cleveland is excellent as well. You can get that book at www.ratzlaf.com/White-Washed-9780962754685.htm . Regarding Revelation 12:14 and 19:10, you can find this in the chapter “The Sabbath and Seventh-day Adventists” in Dale Ratzlaff's book "Sabbath in Christ." This can be purchased here at www.ratzlaf.com/White-Washed-9780962754685.htm . Additional questions can be emailed to dale@ratzlaf.com .
For more information about Ellen G. White's plagiarism - Ellen White's books/testimonies contain a large amount of material Mrs. White and her group of college educated secretaries plagiarized from non-inspired authors. She had a library of 1200 books to copy from. Ellen White did not give credit for her sources, while she led her followers to believe the material she wrote came from the throne of God. "In these letters which I write, in the testimonies I bear, I am presenting to you that which the Lord has presented to me. I do not write one article in the paper expressing merely my own ideas. They are what God has opened before me in vision--the precious rays of light shining from the throne." Testimonies for the Church Vol. 5 (1882-1889), page 67. See "The White Lie" by Walter Rea under Books. Some of the major sources of Ellen White's writings: John Harris, "The Great Teacher;" Frederic Farrar, "The Life of Christ;" George Jones, "Life-Scenes From the Four Gospels;" Alfred Edersheim, "The Life and Times of Jesus the Messiah;" J. H. Ingraham, "The Prince of the House of David;" Francis Wayland, "Salvation by Christ;" and John Cumming, "Sabbath Evening Readings on the New Testament: St. John."
For more see www.truthorfables.com/ & www.truthorfables.com/Great_Controversy_Plagiarism.htm; "SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISM IS BASED ON THE PLAGERIZED WRITINGS OF ELLEN G. WHITE" at th-cam.com/video/nIsIS8mTpbs/w-d-xo.html&index=7&list=PL5316CC6F66F24283 with former Adventist Mark Martin of www.exadventist.com/.
Matthew 7:15-16, “Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they?
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SDA is problematic and you can't see it from the inside. I had to step outside to see it.
To those who wish to discuss issues brought up in our video posted here to a greater extent please know that you can email one of our ministry volunteers at certainandsecure@gmail.com. Also realize that we may have an entire playlist of videos on this subject on our TH-cam channel at th-cam.com/users/CAnswersTV. Besides that know that we have three websites to answer additional questions at www.BibleQuery.org (answers over 8500 questions on the Bible & refutes critics of the Bible), www.HistoryCart.com (this website deals with an in depth analysis of early Christian church history) and www.MuslimHope.com (this website is a documented refutation of Islam, a false religious & political ideology of warlike jihad against all unbelievers invented by Muhammad while he was in Medina for the last 9 years of his life where he averaged one offensive military jihad of pillage, rape & slavery every month to six weeks against his neighbors which eventually led to conquering all of Saudi Arabia- see also www.politicalislam.com/, www.answeringmuslims.com/, answering-islam.org/, www.jihadwatch.org/ & our playlist "Dealing with Islam, Muslims: Sunni, Shi'ite, Alawites, Sufis" with 71 videos & counting at th-cam.com/play/PL1C7F68B548009FDD.html). 1 Peter 3:15
Can't find the full video :(
The full video is called "Former Seventh-day Adventist Pastor for 13 Years Gives His Testimony Why Adventism is Wrong" at th-cam.com/video/c37bNhYzdbE/w-d-xo.html . You can also find it on our home page for our CAnswersTV TH-cam channel at th-cam.com/channels/Q_EDvOtDAAWfCvGUhd6y3A.html , just scroll down to our playlist called, "Dealing with Seventh-day Adventism & Their "Prophetess" & it is the second video shown there. Thanks.
The Truth shall set you FREE
Our righteousness is a gift...trying has nothing to do with righteousness.
Righteousness is not of yourself!
In fact it has nothing to do with your trying!
Eph 2:8
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Righteousness and trying was possible once but not now! There was a Righteousness of the law and now there is not.
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Matthew 7:15 (KJV)
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Matthew 7:20 (KJV)
Exactly..Theyre now out of the closet trying to put in ambivalence situation. The only thing that we can do is pray more. Make out faith stands against over damnation.
He/she who remains and stay his/her belief will be saved. Amen.
The internet has brought to light of a lot of dirt the Adventist hierarchy and White Estate have covered up during the pre-internet era.
Over the past 25 years or so since the internet and information about Ellen White's fraud started to appear on the World Wide Web, secrets that were only known to about 1% of the Adventist membership are now out in the open for all to see (as well as the lame excuses from Adventists themselves)
the founder of Iglesia ni Cristo 1914 felix Manalo claims he was an angel or messenger sent by God, this religion denies the deity of Christ and the trinity.
Are you form filipines? God bless
You never hear Adventist pastors talk about the Feast of Dedication (a.k.a Hanukkah) in John 10:22-23, what it means and its origins, because there's a clear connection between Daniel 8:14 and that passage in John 10:22-23.
If Jesus was there at Solomon's Temple to celebrate Hanukkah (circa 30-33AD when John 10:22-23 took place) and Hanukkah was instituted after Judas Maccabeus cleansed and restored the temple in 165BC after the defilement by Antiochus IV Epiphanes (fufilling the prophecy in Daniel 8:14 that the sanctuary would be cleansed after Antiochus LITERAL 2300 day reign of defiling the temple ended), why would Jesus need to go back to heaven and cleanse a "sanctuary" in 1844 that had already been cleansed more than 2000 years earlier?
Every year in December, when you see Jews around the world celebrate Hannukah, they disprove SDA's 1844 Sanctuary nonsense as applying to an imaginary event in heaven that never took place.
Adventism's foundation doctrine and Ellen White's prophetic influence is completely destroyed once you understand the connection between the real meaning of Daniel 8:14 and John 10:22-23. Imaging basing your church on a prophecy that is......wait for it......2008 YEARS OFF (165BC vs 1844AD)? What a joke!
Hey CAnswersTV could I interview you on my program. Dale as you know, has just passed away and I’d love to chat about your memories of him and also your thoughts! Your honest thoughts! On adventism :)
Thanks for the offer but I'll have to pass due to a tight schedule however if you want to know my thoughts regarding Dale's passing I did send an email to his ministry at lifeassuranceministries@gmail.com saying the following - "Hello Colleen & Life Assurance Ministries, I'm always saddened when the Lord takes home one of his great warriors for his Gospel but at the same time I am happy that they are now at rest with their beloved Lord & Savior & that we will see them later in Glory so the separation is only temporary. In the meantime those of us who remain on this planet carry on the battle for the truth of the Gospel.
The exciting thing is through Dale's books, ministry publications, websites & internet videos he still carries on the fight for truth as if he were still alive among us! Not counting Life Assurance Ministries resources & videos our ministry Christian Answers of Austin, Texas/ Christian Debater produced five videos with Dale when he came here to Austin in 2014 to visit us. Here are the five full length videos with the number of viewings as of the time of this writing (January 7, 2024):
Former Seventh-day Adventist Pastor for 13 Years Gives His Testimony Why Adventism is Wrong at th-cam.com/video/c37bNhYzdbE/w-d-xo.html , Viewings - 405,000+
Is Sabbath Keeping Essential to Be a Real Christian? Former SDA Pastor Answers This Question at th-cam.com/video/w0L3rSSL_H8/w-d-xo.html , Viewings - 59,000+
Truth About Seventh-Day Adventist "Truth?": A False Gospel of Imperfect Law Keeping to Earn Heaven at th-cam.com/video/7EsY1srHYJc/w-d-xo.html , Viewings - 27,000+
Cult Doctrine of Seventh-day Adventism: 1844 Probation & Satan As A Final Sin Bearer for Adventists at th-cam.com/video/J50HlZFYHtY/w-d-xo.html , Viewings - 17,000+
Did God Really Give Ellen G. White "Divine" Health Reform Visions From Book of Revelation Angels? th-cam.com/video/nhKoS2Fk1Y4/w-d-xo.html , Viewings - 11,000+
What's interesting here is we decided to make a 10 minute short clip of Dale's first video above with us. Since the day we uploaded that short clip it has been consistently in the top 3 most watched videos on our channel every month for years. It seems to average between 275-400 views a day. TH-cam analytics says it has 7710 views over the past 28 days as of today. "Former Seventh-day Adventist Pastor Exposes the Lies & Intentional Deceits of Ellen White & the SDA" at th-cam.com/video/umBu2OvAZnk/w-d-xo.html , Viewings - 669,000+
Just taking the 6 videos with Dale above that adds up to 1,188,000 viewings. Dale's ministry rolls into the future on our channel as well as Life Assurance Ministries!
May the Lord bless you & your outreaches always!"
@SDAQandA - You have my permission to use any of our CAnswersTV videos on your channel if you so desire including our playlist "Dealing with Seventh-day Adventism & Their "Prophetess" with 65 videos at th-cam.com/play/PL5316CC6F66F24283.html . If you want to see a video where I was interviewed about my "honest thoughts" on the SDA please see our video "Ellen White's Seventh-day Adventism Qualifies as a Pseudo-Christian Anti-Christ American Cult" at th-cam.com/video/RV0g9lFiKCA/w-d-xo.html which currently has 1.8 million views. Thank you.
@@CAnswersTVthank you soooo much for your reply. I’m Peter btw. And my show is ‘SDAQ&A A Former Adventist Looking in from the Outside’. And I totally understand your schedule is full. No problems. I want to thank you for sending through all the links and stats and for giving me permission to use the interviews with Dale (and your one on adventism) on my show. Thank you!!! I will if that’s ok, and will be sure each time to mention you and to add links to your TH-cam channel! Thank you thank you!!
@@SDAQandA - Peter, you're most welcome & be blessed.
CAnswersTV what is the aim of your channel
lucy candy - This channel is basically a Christian evangelism & apologetics ministry specializing in Biblical theology, comparative religions, Christian church history & Christian apologetics dealing with religious cults & false world religions for evangelism purposes & the defense of the Biblical Christian faith.This ministry began back in 1982 & started doing public access television shows in 1985 through Time Warner cable reaching over 400,000 households in the Austin, Texas & immediate surrounding areas. Thus in the almost 800 posted public videos on TH-cam through CAnswersTV viewers will see videos that were originally done in the 1980s, 1990s, 2000s & all the way to the present. See our video "CAnswersTV is Christian Answers Television, 19 Playlists, 800 Videos: The Bible vs. False Prophets" at th-cam.com/video/8Rc-k8HcfiE/w-d-xo.html which currently has almost 16 million views so far across our 800 videos. See our playlists : Popular Uploads at th-cam.com/users/CAnswersTVvideos?view=0&sort=p&shelf_id=2 21:45 - Free transcripts at www.sermonaudio.com/search.asp?currpage=1&keyword=christiananswers&SourceOnly=true&mediatype=PDF&AudioOnly=false&sortby= 32:55 - A review of more popular uploads 40:48 - Dealing with Jehovah's Witnesses, Watchtower Society playlist at th-cam.com/play/PLCF0ADB29C0EB8C40.html 46:43 - Dealing with Islam, Muslims: Sunni, Shi'ite, Alawites, Sufis playlist at th-cam.com/play/PL1C7F68B548009FDD.html
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The Bible tells us to expose error (Ephesians 5:11, "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them."). And to expose error we must make righteous judgments. Christians must judge in order to:
1. Try the spirits to see if they are from God, for many false prophets are in the world. (1 John 4:1).
2. Mark & avoid false teachers, slaves of their own bellies, deceiving many. (Romans 16:17-18).
3. Rebuke false teachers, rebellious men, & deceivers who subvert whole families with their false doctrine. (Titus 1:9-16)
4. Have no fellowship with immoral, impure, or covetous men. (Ephesians 5:5-7)
5. Receive not deceivers who do not abide in the teaching of Christ. (2 John 7-11)
6. Be wary of those who preach another gospel. (2 Corinthians 11:4, Galatians 1:6-9)
Here are some things to consider that not many people think about or realize as they read scripture. Men plant churches. The word Church in the our Bible is a mistranslation from the word Ekklesia in the Original Scriptures. it has been the practice of man to plant physical churches. However this is not what Messiah did. He came to build an invisible body of believers. Ekklesia or sold out once. They were not incorporated or 501 c 3 or connected with the government in any way. In fact the government was against them and they suffered a lot of persecution because they were sold out. Today's churches have sold out to the world and have placed themselves under the governments of this world and by that they have removed Messiah as their head. there is a lot more I can tell you but I don't want to take a lot of space right here.
I'm a proud SDA. If I'll go to hell for being an SDA so be it. Thank you God 😊 💓 .
and this comment is proof why this religion is dangerous. They pride themselves in their religious self righteousness rather then long to be with Jesus for eternity. Wow what a horrible thing to say after all that Jesus did for you on the cross.
My folks were fanatical Adventists! I decided at an early age, that if they were the only ones going to heaven- I didn't want to be there!
Christ came to redeem us from the curse of the law and Adventists came to give the curse back!!!!!
" If i'll go to Hell", What a thing to say.
I can't imagine how this comment could be more stupid.
Firstly, "proud". You don't care that God condemns pride??
Second, "If I go to hell" - that doesn't concern you?
Third, you don't know that people go to hell because they haven't trusted Christ as presented in the Bible??? John 3:18.
And most moronic of all, why thank God for your stupidity and demonic foolishness.
Repent and trust the Lord Jesus Christ today.
is there possibility Ellen suffered from mercury II nitrate effects from her fathers use of it in his pelt business? I have done preliminary style research and this is concerning to me...Wiki speaks of it as a type of "mad hatters" disease....any thoughts???
rick mccoy - Unfortunately, there are no "typical" symptoms of mercury poisoning that could easily be used to classify Mrs. White's condition beyond all possibility of doubt. Effects vary considerably depending upon one's age, weight, rate of exposure, type of mercury, and route of exposure (inhalation, skin, etc.).50 However, since her father was a hatter who used mercury to prepare his hats, and since she assisted him, at least for a while, in his business, she was definitely at risk for exposure to the poison. While many of the symptoms Mrs. White experienced could have had multiple causes, the sheer number of commonalities between her symptoms and mercury poisoning symptoms would suggest she had at least a mild exposure to mercury. If this is the case, it is sad and unfortunate and Mrs. White is deserving of our deepest sympathy. Furthermore, this could, in part, explain some of the unusual physical symptoms and psycholgical behaviors exhibited by Mrs. White throughout her prophetic career. For much more on this concerning Ellen White please see the following link at www.nonsda.org/egw/egw110.shtml.
She suffered Traumatic Brain Injury as a result of a rock thrown at her face as a child. She admits to many personality disorders in her book "Life Sketches". All of her self described physical, and mental ailments can be found on WebMDs page on Traumatic Brain Injury
Demonic
Video cuts off it seems after he say I did not read Ellen White for 6 months than wow . Is there anymore ?
Dan Phillips - This is only a 10 minute clip from the original video called "Former Seventh-day Adventist Pastor for 13 Years Gives His Testimony Why Adventism is Wrong" which can be found at th-cam.com/video/c37bNhYzdbE/w-d-xo.html. This way you can see the rest of the video after the 10 minute cut. To see all 53 videos we have produced over the years about Seventh-day Adventism please check out our playlist called "Dealing with Seventh-day Adventism & Their "Prophetess" at th-cam.com/play/PL5316CC6F66F24283.html .
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Hey I was dealing with a SDA she claims they do not believe Sabbath day is required . 2 she claimed SDA do not say Ellen White was a prophet.
Do you have 1 video to address SDA beliefs ?
@@danphillips3580 - This is typical SDA tap dancing from the SDA lady to hide the truth from outsiders (a good example of this type of tap dancing which was caught on video can be found in our video called "Seventh-day Adventists are Brainwashed by Prophetess Ellen G. White's Deceitful Writings & Visions" at th-cam.com/video/1TJuLqLrQ0E/w-d-xo.html from the 8 minute time marker to about the 10 minute 50 second mark). But to answer your main question, of all of our 53 videos about the Seventh-day Adventists, the one I would recommend to analyze the main beliefs of the SDA would be "Ellen White's Seventh-day Adventism Qualifies as a Pseudo-Christian Anti-Christ American Cult" at th-cam.com/video/RV0g9lFiKCA/w-d-xo.html. This video is over 2 hours long but it really gets into the details of their many beliefs & is our second most watched video of our almost 800 videos on our TH-cam channel with over 1 million 100,000 viewings.
@@CAnswersTV not all of us are. I am a Sabbath believer. I attend a SDA church. I Do believe LGW was a false prophet. Who lied, i have been sitting with this thought for a while because i spend alot of time reading the bible. From reading for myself i saw so many flaws in the things I heard about her and what she said. I dont read her books. I always wondered what the point was, as it seemed to be all regurgitated material. My focus is to know Christ the Lord Yeshua for myself and the best way to do so is to spend time in his words, searching for him as he instructed us to do. I think soo much emphasis is placed on her work and material almost as if its being pushed on us. In our quarterly bible study books, almost everything references her books. To me even more than the bible and that was troubling to me. As it seems she wrote the words written in the bible in layman's terms and called it visions or messages. Anyways, I was telling someone tht i am planning on not going to th chruch anymore and thy said maybe i was placed there for a reason I have been prayimg about it. I dont think ots time to leave as yet and while im there I intend to ask alot of questions in my bible study classes and see if it provokes anyone to think for themselves, i love the people who go there, they are kind and warm, my mom goes there and she loves Jesus very much. Im no sure exactly what i am being called to do but I know, im there for a reason. I am studying the bible and a few of her books and work so when i asked questions I can back it up with biblical evidence for myself.
These videos il help me to get a better understanding of what their beliefs are. But for the ost part I live in Jamaica and we do not follower her as the Americans do. But they still send us books with all her stuff. Many of us do no read her books, but our quarterly books are written around her doctrine. Its just that no one even realizes it. Also they have never spoken of investigate judgment at any SDA church i have been to in Jamaica. So maybe we are fake SDAs lol
@@guidedbyelohim103 - Yes keep studying the Bible in contrast to Ellen White's teachings & escape this false religion. Very useful websites dealing with Seventh-Day Adventism & run by former SDA members are: www.LifeAssuranceMinistries.org & www.ExAdventist.com. Check out our playlist called "Dealing with Seventh-day Adventism & Their "Prophetess" at th-cam.com/play/PL5316CC6F66F24283.html with 54 videos. May the Lord bring peace to your soul as you escape the deception of this religious group created around a false prophet in the 1800s. To hear some good Bible teachers see our video called "Top List of Outstanding Bible Teachers & Preachers on SermonAudio.com for Personal & Group Study" at th-cam.com/video/N6153Yqz0xg/w-d-xo.html. Particularly notice Voddie Baucham's sermons at www.sermonaudio.com/search.asp?speakeronly=true&currsection=sermonsspeaker&keyword=Voddie_Baucham . May the Lord bless your studies. 1 Peter 3:15
Seventh-day Adventism was invented about the same time as Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christadelphians & others. See our video "RISE OF THE CULTS: WHERE DID ALL THESE STRANGE AMERICAN RELIGIOUS SECTS COME FROM?" at th-cam.com/video/HfVTXbFrvh8/w-d-xo.html. See our latest video on the Jehovah's Witnesses called "Who's Knocking? #2: Jehovah's Witnesses Hidden History, Spiritism, Racism, Doctrines of
Demons" at th-cam.com/video/b9LFhzOb-_g/w-d-xo.html.
Although this video is from a lecture I gave to one of my apologetic
classes back in the 1990s on the subject of Jehovah's Witnesses my video
man & myself spent weeks in editing this particular video (we
usually edit once a week for 4 to 5 hours). I decided to put the time
& effort into placing primary Jehovah's Witness source material into
this video which then made it into a very tedious project. Since I own
many Jehovah's Witness books that are over 100 years old & are
little known I thought it would be useful for viewers to see with their
own eyes this material. With knowledge of these original Watchtower
publications true Christians can then use this information as an
effective tool in witnessing to Jehovah's Witnesses who have been
deceived by this false prophet organization (I even included some of the
court documents from Watchtower founder Charles Taze Russell's divorce
case with his wife Maria over his affair with an underage female). Over
the past 33 years I have been able, by God's grace, to lead many people
& families out of the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society. This has
been done not so much by arguing Bible verses with them (playing "Bible
ping pong") but by knowing their history (which they cannot change).
Once you can crack their faith in the Watchtower with their own history
then they are much more open to discussing what the Bible actually says
rather than what the Watchtower tells them the Bible says. Be prepared
to meet the Jehovah's Witnesses who come knocking at your door. 1 Peter 3:15,
"But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give
an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in
you with meekness and fear:"
Do you have documentation on the plagiarism to which you referred?
Joella Koslowski - Ellen Gould Harmon was born on a small farm near the village of Gorham, Maine, on November 26, 1827. Only a few years after her birth, her parents Robert and Eunice Harmon gave up farming to move to the nearby town of Portland where her father became a hat maker. When Ellen was nine she was permanently disfigured when a fellow student maliciously hit her in the head with a rock. The rock put her into a coma that lasted several weeks and forced her to miss a long period of schooling. She did recover but many have argued that this head injury gave her delusions for her future life since it affected her brain. Regardless she was still able to function fairly normally into her old age while making a lot of money off of her religion business while owning three nice houses. Several of White's homes are historic sites. The first home that she and her husband owned is now part of the Historic Adventist Village in Battle Creek, Michigan. Her other homes are privately owned with the exception of her home in Cooranbong, Australia, which she named "Sunnyside," and her last home in Saint Helena, California, which she named "Elmshaven". These latter two homes are owned by the Seventh-day Adventist Church and the "Elmshaven" home is also a National Historic Landmark (source: Wikipedia).
For information about Ellen G. White's plagiarism - Ellen White's books/testimonies contain a large amount of material Mrs. White and her group of college educated secretaries plagiarized from non-inspired authors. She had a library of 1200 books to copy from. Ellen White did not give credit for her sources, while she led her followers to believe the material she wrote came from the throne of God. "In these letters which I write, in the testimonies I bear, I am presenting to you that which the Lord has presented to me. I do not write one article in the paper expressing merely my own ideas. They are what God has opened before me in vision--the precious rays of light shining from the throne." Testimonies for the Church Vol. 5 (1882-1889), page 67. See "The White Lie" by Walter Rea under Books.
Some of the major sources of Ellen White's writings: John Harris, The Great Teacher; Frederic Farrar, The Life of Christ; George Jones, Life-Scenes From the Four Gospels; Alfred Edersheim, The Life and Times of Jesus the Messiah; J. H. Ingraham, The Prince of the House of David; Francis Wayland, Salvation by Christ; and John Cumming, Sabbath Evening Readings on the New Testament: St. John. For more see www.truthorfables.com/ & www.truthorfables.com/Great_Controversy_Plagiarism.htm; "SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISM IS BASED ON THE PLAGERIZED WRITINGS OF ELLEN G. WHITE" at th-cam.com/video/nIsIS8mTpbs/w-d-xo.html&index=7&list=PL5316CC6F66F24283 with former Adventist Mark Martin of www.exadventist.com/. See also www.rethinkingadventism.com/. Matthew 7:15
@@CAnswersTV Thank you for your detailed response.
How do we explain the books that will be open at judgement? doesn't that prove investigative judgement to a great extent? How will the names be in there if there is no pre-judgement>?
By way of contrast with SDA Investigative Judgement to the books that will be open at judgement see the following links: blog.lifeassuranceministries.org/2019/10/10/new-improved-investigative-judgment/ & blog.lifeassuranceministries.org/2019/08/15/i-have-found-my-rest/ . The “Day of Judgment” is a future event promised in Scripture where God will bring about final justice and condemnation on all those who are still in their sins while delivering those who are in Christ into the joys of eternal life. It is the day on which God will sentence unbelievers to eternal torment in hellfire while preserving the repentant who believes on Jesus Christ solely on the basis of the sacrificial work of Jesus on their behalf through His death on the cross for sin. What is the Day of Judgment?
Most of the New Testament writers who refer to the day of judgment by name seem to assume that the reader already knows what it is. In the Gospel of Matthew, for example, Jesus says things like: “Then He began to denounce the cities in which most of His miracles were done, because they did not repent. ‘Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles had occurred in Tyre and Sidon which occurred in you, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. Nevertheless I say to you, it will be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon in the day of judgment than for you. And you, Capernaum, will not be exalted to heaven, will you? You will descend to Hades; for if the miracles had occurred in Sodom which occurred in you, it would have remained to this day. Nevertheless, I say to you that it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for you,” (Matthew 11:20-24).
He does not define the day. He assumes that His audience already knows what it is. Yet, even here, there are important clues about this day. It is clearly a future day of great importance. What’s more, the people of ancient Sodom and Gomorrah from way back in the time of Abraham, the people of Tyre and Sidon “long ago,” and the people of the towns of Chorazin and Bethsaida of Jesus’ own day would all stand together to be judged on this same day of judgment. So, even if this were all we had to go on, we would pretty easily come to the conclusion that we are talking about a final day of judgment before God upon all people of all times.
Jesus and the New Testament authors seem to have largely felt no need to explicitly define the day of judgment because it was language already well-known in their day. The phrase “day of judgment” occurs rather frequently in Jewish writings of the New Testament era and before, such as in the apocalyptic Esdras literature, where we read:
“But the day of judgment will be the end of this age and the beginning of the immortal age to come, in which corruption has passed away, sinful indulgence has come to an end, unbelief has been cut off, and righteousness has increased and truth has appeared. Therefore no one will then be able to have mercy on someone who has been condemned in the judgment, or to harm someone who is victorious,” (2 Esdras 7:113-115, NRSV).
Or in the apocryphal Book of Judith, which states:
“Woe to the nations that rise up against my people! The Lord Almighty will take vengeance on them in the day of judgment; he will send fire and worms into their flesh; they shall weep in pain forever,” (Judith 16:17, NRSV).
Still, when Paul is preaching in Athens to a pagan, gentile audience with no background in Jewish thought, he does explicitly explain:
“Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent, because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead,” (Acts 17:30-31).
Peter, likewise, uses rather vivid language in his second letter, writing:
“Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts, and saying, ‘Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation.’ For when they maintain this, it escapes their notice that by the word of God the heavens existed long ago and the earth was formed out of water and by water, through which the world at that time was destroyed, being flooded with water. But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men,” (2 Peter 3:3-7).
The language of complete judgment over all creation and the comparison to the flood of Noah give us a powerful picture of the complete extent of this judgment. We likewise know from Jude that this will be a day when not only men but also fallen angels are judged:
“And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day,” (Jude 6).
Peter is, however, clear that the godly will be rescued on this day while the wicked are left to destruction:
“the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from temptation, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment for the day of judgment, and especially those who indulge the flesh in its corrupt desires and despise authority,” (2 Peter 2:9-10).
The Means of Escape
The day of judgment is a serious matter of great importance in Scripture. Paul urgently warns:
“But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, who will render to each person according to his deeds,” (Romans 2:5-11).
Yet He also points to our way of escape:
“For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him,” (Romans 5:6-9).
The death of Christ has delivered those who believe from judgment and condemnation. We likewise read in the Gospel of John:
“As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up; so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him. He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God,” (John 3:14-18).
It is not our efforts, but rather through looking in faith to Christ and His sacrifice that we are saved from condemnation and judgment. John goes on to write in his first letter:
“Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God. We have come to know and have believed the love which God has for us. God is love, and the one who abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him. By this, love is perfected with us, so that we may have confidence in the day of judgment; because as He is, so also are we in this world. There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love. We love, because He first loved us,” (1 John 4:15-19).
God loved us by sending His Son, Jesus Christ, to take our punishment and die on our behalf. If we confess that Jesus is, indeed, the Son of God and believe in this great act of love by God for us, we can have confidence on the day of judgment. What’s more, His love will become our love. Receiving His love, we ourselves will love as He does and thus turns from sin to righteousness and from selfishness to self-sacrifice for others. So in this age and in the age to come, Christ alone is the answer.
No but everything is recorded and those in Christ will receive rewards but the lost will receive damnation.
What a mean place to stop! I sure hope it wasn't deliberate!
Deborah Szafraniec - This video was just a short 10 minute clip from a much longer video called "Former Seventh-day Adventist Pastor for 13 Years Gives His Testimony Why Adventism is Wrong" at th-cam.com/video/c37bNhYzdbE/w-d-xo.html which even comes with a free written transcript at media-cloud.sermonaudio.com/text/79161824122.pdf. This 10 minute clip video is from a series of forty 10 minute clip videos we call "Quick Look Videos" we produced because we discovered that most people only have a 10 minute attention span or less. Thus this video cut off automatically around 10 minutes so nothing special was intended. This video clip is coming from our lead video on our playlist called "Dealing with Seventh-day Adventism & Their "Prophetess" with 49 videos at th-cam.com/play/PL5316CC6F66F24283.html.
I agree, satan is the accuser of the brethren so are all is followers.
@@simongou9101 🤣🤣🤣🤣you must be sda sorry for you
Who said that Ellen G. White is the prophet? Did she wrote a book that proclaimed she's a prophet not Jesus? What is a prophet means to u? 🙏
athalea Bandiola - Mrs. White says "I am just as dependent upon the spirit of the Lord in relating or writing a vision, as in having the vision."-Spiritual Gifts, Vol. 2, Page 293. This claim, if true, entitles her to equal authority with Isaiah, Jeremiah, John and Jesus Christ, and exalts her books to equality with the Bible. Is this a true claim? Are these visions given by inspiration of God? This is a very important question and deserves a serious and candid investigation. That they are believed by many, is no proof of their divinity. Mormonism and Spiritualism have many sincere believers. That there are some good things in them is not proof that they are of God. The visions of Sweedenborg contain many good things-so does the Koran-but nevertheless they are not of God. Besides all the good that is in any of the above revelations is borrowed from the Bible, the great foundation of good. For more on being a prophet of God & how Ellen White relates to it click on www.truthorfables.com/Visons_of_%2520EGW_by_Snook_%26_Brinkerhoff.htm .
I was told by a sda pastor that the reason they don't celebrate the resurrection is because it was more important to observe the Saturday Sabbath.
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They lost the plot
I watch some videos from a SDA church member called Bible Flock Box . He seems truly genuine in his videos speaking about this or that verse in the bible . He uses Scripture to answer questions that he gets or popular ideas that are not biblically sound .
I knew years ago people placed SDA in the same type of false church as the mormons and such . To me I can't see how there is any need for a church business structure with people in various paid ranks . It blends the world into the minds and actions of those seeking God's wisdom the peace Jesus offers the believers in His incalculable love and grace He has for us as hopeless sinners .
I was raised catholic but as I grew into my teens I slipped away into drugs and all kinds of useless endeavors some of which cost me more than I can say . I thank God for the support of my parents as I battled and overcame the evil residue that clings to a troubled heart . I still battle today at times for the adversary is always lurking .
To walk in the word of God is to live for the will of God , in this I know I fail but I pray for forgiveness and guidance as there are so many snares laid before us . It is the Spirit that strengthens me and what strength and courage I have is a gift from God , something not of myself .
I owe everything to God His Son Yeshua Christ . I have been spared so much by His mercy that it is a major part of my daily thoughts .
This video has me thinking about that Bible Flock Box channel ( I can't remember the young man's name , another of my many faults ) . What can be done to show him that the church he is so strongly tied to is founded on false teachings .
I will try and have a dialogue with him if possible , maybe if I can just ask him to have an open mind and consider what others that found out about that church by comparing their doctrines with the Truth in Scripture .
Thank you for this informative video .
Hardworking American i know him too and my heart was never giving me a good impression of him
Tell him not to follow the teachings of man. Man made doctrines are not to be followed or listened to.
You can find all scriptures to show him online. BibleGateway.com
We are only supposed to listen and follow Jesus Christ. He IS Almighty G-d. He IS The Living Word.
No man made doctrines. Do you realize that what this former SDA pastor said E. White had visions and a spirit showed her, et cetra. Mohammed said the same thing!!! Visions and an angel spoke to him, which resulted in the Q'ran!!
The Bible and Jesus' Word are The Only Word to listen to.
Also, Jesus warned us about lying. This involves spreading false doctrine to others. Even Calvanists, who tell people, "Once saved always saved." This is absolutely WRONG. If anyone spreading this does not repent, they will be sent to the wrong side of eternity! It is through obedience to what Jesus says, and complete repentance of a lifestyle of sin. It is Only through G-ds Grace that we are saved. But we have a responsibility To turn from our lifestyle of sin against a HOLY, HOLY G-d. Unfortunately, far too many pastors have forgotten about repentance.
I fear for many of them, collecting millions of dollars, allowing sin to run rampant in their congregations. Money is their god.
""I saw that the very spirit of perjury, that would turn truth into falsehood, good into evil, and innocence into crime, is now active. Satan exults over the condition of God's professed people. While many are neglecting their own souls, they eagerly watch for an opportunity to criticize and condemn others."
- - Ellen G White, Counsels for the Church, Jealousy and Faultfinding
If I were to turn the table around, what is your reference of TRUTH. Truth should not be stirred up if it were to be challenged. Jesus says we should live by every word that comes from the mouth of GOD and not by Ellen White. I would not let other souls be perished on account of pride instead of Truth And let me tell you the devil deceives people by distorting the Word of God in Doctrines that are "half" TRUTH.
Marissa Gray Faith: not wanting to know what is true.
@@RogalloShaolin EGW is your false prophet Idol
@@RogalloShaolin Um, sorry, you are the one under strong delusion here:
www.nonegw.org/
www.truthorfables.com/
False prophets do not lead their followers to the kingdom of God (2 Peter 2:1-9). Ellen was as false as false can be.
I pray you will come to an acknowledging of the truth and be able to escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will. (2 Timothy 2:25-26).
That's the very problem with SDAs. They take that woman's words as Gospel but when you tell them that the Bible says that you can speak in an unknown tongue to God ( 1 Corinthians 14:1-25 ) they will stone you for it (emphasis mine). Let that tell you what you need to know.
Do we keep God law “ His commandments “
See our video called "Sabbath Keeping Is Not Required For New Testament Christians: Seventh-Day Adventists Beware" at th-cam.com/video/TEFt4TOR6E8/w-d-xo.html & our other video "Is Sabbath Keeping Essential to Be a Real Christian? Former SDA Pastor Answers This Question" at th-cam.com/video/w0L3rSSL_H8/w-d-xo.html . Question: "How is Jesus our Sabbath Rest?"
Answer: The key to understanding how Jesus is our Sabbath rest is the Hebrew word sabat, which means "to rest or stop or cease from work." The origin of the Sabbath goes back to Creation. After creating the heavens and the earth in six days, God "rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made" (Genesis 2:2). This doesn’t mean that God was tired and needed a rest. We know that God is omnipotent, literally "all-powerful." He has all the power in the universe, He never tires, and His most arduous expenditure of energy does not diminish His power one bit. So, what does it mean that God rested on the seventh day? Simply that He stopped what He was doing. He ceased from His labors. This is important in understanding the establishment of the Sabbath day and the role of Christ as our Sabbath rest.
God used the example of His resting on the seventh day of Creation to establish the principle of the Sabbath day rest for His people. In Exodus 20:8-11 and Deuteronomy 5:12-15, God gave the Israelites the fourth of His Ten Commandments. They were to "remember" the Sabbath day and "keep it holy." One day out of every seven, they were to rest from their labors and give the same day of rest to their servants and animals. This was not just a physical rest, but a cessation of laboring. Whatever work they were engaged in was to stop for a full day each week. (Please read our other articles on the Sabbath day, Saturday vs. Sunday and Sabbath keeping to explore this issue further.) The Sabbath day was established so the people would rest from their labors, only to begin again after a one-day rest.
The various elements of the Sabbath symbolized the coming of the Messiah, who would provide a permanent rest for His people. Once again the example of resting from our labors comes into play. With the establishment of the Old Testament Law, the Jews were constantly "laboring" to make themselves acceptable to God. Their labors included trying to obey a myriad of do’s and don’ts of the ceremonial law, the Temple law, the civil law, etc. Of course they couldn’t possibly keep all those laws, so God provided an array of sin offerings and sacrifices so they could come to Him for forgiveness and restore fellowship with Him, but only temporarily. Just as they began their physical labors after a one-day rest, so, too, did they have to continue to offer sacrifices. Hebrews 10:1 tells us that the law "can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship." But these sacrifices were offered in anticipation of the ultimate sacrifice of Christ on the cross, who "after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down on the right of God" (Hebrews 10:12). Just as He rested after performing the ultimate sacrifice, He sat down and rested-ceased from His labor of atonement because there was nothing more to be done, ever. Because of what He did, we no longer have to "labor" in law-keeping in order to be justified in the sight of God. Jesus was sent so that we might rest in God and in what He has provided.
Another element of the Sabbath day rest which God instituted as a foreshadowing of our complete rest in Christ is that He blessed it, sanctified it, and made it holy. Here again we see the symbol of Christ as our Sabbath rest-the holy, perfect Son of God who sanctifies and makes holy all who believe in Him. God sanctified Christ, just as He sanctified the Sabbath day, and sent Him into the world (John 10:36) to be our sacrifice for sin. In Him we find complete rest from the labors of our self-effort, because He alone is holy and righteous. "God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God" (2 Corinthians 5:21). We can now cease from our spiritual labors and rest in Him, not just one day a week, but always.
Jesus can be our Sabbath rest in part because He is "Lord of the Sabbath" (Matthew 12:8). As God incarnate, He decides the true meaning of the Sabbath because He created it, and He is our Sabbath rest in the flesh. When the Pharisees criticized Him for healing on the Sabbath, Jesus reminded them that even they, sinful as they were, would not hesitate to pull a sheep out of a pit on the Sabbath. Because He came to seek and save His sheep who would hear His voice (John 10:3,27) and enter into the Sabbath rest He provided by paying for their sins, He could break the Sabbath rules. He told the Pharisees that people are more important than sheep and the salvation He provided was more important than rules. By saying, "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath" (Mark 2:27), Jesus was restating the principle that the Sabbath rest was instituted to relieve man of his labors, just as He came to relieve us of our attempting to achieve salvation by our works. We no longer rest for only one day, but forever cease our laboring to attain God’s favor. Jesus is our rest from works now, just as He is the door to heaven, where we will rest in Him forever.
Hebrews 4 is the definitive passage regarding Jesus as our Sabbath rest. The writer to the Hebrews exhorts his readers to "enter in" to the Sabbath rest provided by Christ. After three chapters of telling them that Jesus is superior to the angels and that He is our Apostle and High Priest, he pleads with them to not harden their hearts against Him, as their fathers hardened their hearts against Jehovah in the wilderness. Because of their unbelief, God denied that generation access to the holy land, saying, "They shall not enter into My rest" (Hebrews 3:11). In the same way, the writer to the Hebrews begs them-and us-not to make the same mistake by rejecting God’s Sabbath rest in Jesus Christ. "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God's rest also rests from his own work, just as God did from his. Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will fall by following their example of disobedience" (Hebrews 4:9-11).
There is no other Sabbath rest besides Jesus. He alone satisfies the requirements of the Law, and He alone provides the sacrifice that atones for sin. He is God’s plan for us to cease from the labor of our own works. We dare not reject this one-and-only Way of salvation (John 14:6). God’s reaction to those who choose to reject His plan is seen in Numbers 15. A man was found gathering sticks on the Sabbath day, in spite of God’s plain commandment to cease from all labor on the Sabbath. This transgression was a known and willful sin, done with unblushing boldness in broad daylight, in open defiance of the divine authority. "And Jehovah said to Moses, ‘The man shall surely be put to death’" (v. 35). So it will be to all who reject God’s provision for our Sabbath rest in Christ. "How shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation?" (Hebrews 2:3).
"What does it mean that Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath? - www.gotquestions.org/Lord-of-the-Sabbath.html
"What is a sabbatical year?" - www.gotquestions.org/sabbatical-year.html
"What does shabbat mean?" - www.gotquestions.org/shabbat.html
"What day is the Sabbath, Saturday or Sunday?" - www.gotquestions.org/Saturday-Sunday.html
"Does God require Sabbath-keeping of Christians?" - www.gotquestions.org/Sabbath-keeping.html
Can you be an SDA and not believe in EGW???
Yes😅
Yes
Just follow the bible.
Definitely not.
Can someone please explain the part in the bible where Christ commanded us to keep the sabbath holy.
See our video called "Sabbath Keeping Is Not Required For New Testament Christians: Seventh-Day Adventists Beware" at th-cam.com/video/TEFt4TOR6E8/w-d-xo.html & our other video "Is Sabbath Keeping Essential to Be a Real Christian? Former SDA Pastor Answers This Question" at th-cam.com/video/w0L3rSSL_H8/w-d-xo.html . Question: "How is Jesus our Sabbath Rest?"
Answer: The key to understanding how Jesus is our Sabbath rest is the Hebrew word sabat, which means "to rest or stop or cease from work." The origin of the Sabbath goes back to Creation. After creating the heavens and the earth in six days, God "rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made" (Genesis 2:2). This doesn’t mean that God was tired and needed a rest. We know that God is omnipotent, literally "all-powerful." He has all the power in the universe, He never tires, and His most arduous expenditure of energy does not diminish His power one bit. So, what does it mean that God rested on the seventh day? Simply that He stopped what He was doing. He ceased from His labors. This is important in understanding the establishment of the Sabbath day and the role of Christ as our Sabbath rest.
God used the example of His resting on the seventh day of Creation to establish the principle of the Sabbath day rest for His people. In Exodus 20:8-11 and Deuteronomy 5:12-15, God gave the Israelites the fourth of His Ten Commandments. They were to "remember" the Sabbath day and "keep it holy." One day out of every seven, they were to rest from their labors and give the same day of rest to their servants and animals. This was not just a physical rest, but a cessation of laboring. Whatever work they were engaged in was to stop for a full day each week. (Please read our other articles on the Sabbath day, Saturday vs. Sunday and Sabbath keeping to explore this issue further.) The Sabbath day was established so the people would rest from their labors, only to begin again after a one-day rest.
The various elements of the Sabbath symbolized the coming of the Messiah, who would provide a permanent rest for His people. Once again the example of resting from our labors comes into play. With the establishment of the Old Testament Law, the Jews were constantly "laboring" to make themselves acceptable to God. Their labors included trying to obey a myriad of do’s and don’ts of the ceremonial law, the Temple law, the civil law, etc. Of course they couldn’t possibly keep all those laws, so God provided an array of sin offerings and sacrifices so they could come to Him for forgiveness and restore fellowship with Him, but only temporarily. Just as they began their physical labors after a one-day rest, so, too, did they have to continue to offer sacrifices. Hebrews 10:1 tells us that the law "can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship." But these sacrifices were offered in anticipation of the ultimate sacrifice of Christ on the cross, who "after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down on the right of God" (Hebrews 10:12). Just as He rested after performing the ultimate sacrifice, He sat down and rested-ceased from His labor of atonement because there was nothing more to be done, ever. Because of what He did, we no longer have to "labor" in law-keeping in order to be justified in the sight of God. Jesus was sent so that we might rest in God and in what He has provided.
Another element of the Sabbath day rest which God instituted as a foreshadowing of our complete rest in Christ is that He blessed it, sanctified it, and made it holy. Here again we see the symbol of Christ as our Sabbath rest-the holy, perfect Son of God who sanctifies and makes holy all who believe in Him. God sanctified Christ, just as He sanctified the Sabbath day, and sent Him into the world (John 10:36) to be our sacrifice for sin. In Him we find complete rest from the labors of our self-effort, because He alone is holy and righteous. "God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God" (2 Corinthians 5:21). We can now cease from our spiritual labors and rest in Him, not just one day a week, but always.
Jesus can be our Sabbath rest in part because He is "Lord of the Sabbath" (Matthew 12:8). As God incarnate, He decides the true meaning of the Sabbath because He created it, and He is our Sabbath rest in the flesh. When the Pharisees criticized Him for healing on the Sabbath, Jesus reminded them that even they, sinful as they were, would not hesitate to pull a sheep out of a pit on the Sabbath. Because He came to seek and save His sheep who would hear His voice (John 10:3,27) and enter into the Sabbath rest He provided by paying for their sins, He could break the Sabbath rules. He told the Pharisees that people are more important than sheep and the salvation He provided was more important than rules. By saying, "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath" (Mark 2:27), Jesus was restating the principle that the Sabbath rest was instituted to relieve man of his labors, just as He came to relieve us of our attempting to achieve salvation by our works. We no longer rest for only one day, but forever cease our laboring to attain God’s favor. Jesus is our rest from works now, just as He is the door to heaven, where we will rest in Him forever.
Hebrews 4 is the definitive passage regarding Jesus as our Sabbath rest. The writer to the Hebrews exhorts his readers to "enter in" to the Sabbath rest provided by Christ. After three chapters of telling them that Jesus is superior to the angels and that He is our Apostle and High Priest, he pleads with them to not harden their hearts against Him, as their fathers hardened their hearts against Jehovah in the wilderness. Because of their unbelief, God denied that generation access to the holy land, saying, "They shall not enter into My rest" (Hebrews 3:11). In the same way, the writer to the Hebrews begs them-and us-not to make the same mistake by rejecting God’s Sabbath rest in Jesus Christ. "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God's rest also rests from his own work, just as God did from his. Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will fall by following their example of disobedience" (Hebrews 4:9-11).
There is no other Sabbath rest besides Jesus. He alone satisfies the requirements of the Law, and He alone provides the sacrifice that atones for sin. He is God’s plan for us to cease from the labor of our own works. We dare not reject this one-and-only Way of salvation (John 14:6). God’s reaction to those who choose to reject His plan is seen in Numbers 15. A man was found gathering sticks on the Sabbath day, in spite of God’s plain commandment to cease from all labor on the Sabbath. This transgression was a known and willful sin, done with unblushing boldness in broad daylight, in open defiance of the divine authority. "And Jehovah said to Moses, ‘The man shall surely be put to death’" (v. 35). So it will be to all who reject God’s provision for our Sabbath rest in Christ. "How shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation?" (Hebrews 2:3).
"What does it mean that Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath? - www.gotquestions.org/Lord-of-the-Sabbath.html
"What is a sabbatical year?" - www.gotquestions.org/sabbatical-year.html
"What does shabbat mean?" - www.gotquestions.org/shabbat.html
"What day is the Sabbath, Saturday or Sunday?" - www.gotquestions.org/Saturday-Sunday.html
"Does God require Sabbath-keeping of Christians?" - www.gotquestions.org/Sabbath-keeping.html
@@CAnswersTV Thank you
Jesus never said to keep it. He broke the sabbath so they wanted to kill him for it.
Where did He?
Would you have any information on Adventist hospital doing abortions?
On our playlist called "Dealing with Seventh-day Adventism & Their "Prophetess" with 40 videos at th-cam.com/play/PL5316CC6F66F24283.html we have a video called "Truth About Seventh-Day Adventist "Truth?": A False Gospel of Imperfect Law Keeping to Earn Heaven" at th-cam.com/video/7EsY1srHYJc/w-d-xo.html which talks about Seventh-day Adventist abortions. When George Gainer was researching his paper, the American Hospital Association Guide to the Health Care Field, 1986, stated:
Twelve of the 56 Adventist hospitals in the United States [are] offering ‘abortion services’ including ‘a program and facilities.’31 The hospitals listed are as follows: Castle Medical Center, Hadley Memorial Hospital, Hanford Community Hospital, Loma Linda University Medical Center, Porter Memorial Hospital, Portland Adventist Medical Center, Shady Grove Adventist Hospital, Shawnee Mission Medical Center, Sierra Vista Hospital, Walla Walla General Hospital, Washington Adventist Hospital, and White Memorial Medical Center. One could be forgiven for wondering if our other hospitals [which] supplied reports on which the Guide is based are accurate as to the difference between therapeutic abortion and elective abortion.32
Nic Samojluk of Loma Linda has been researching Adventists and abortion over a period of several years for his doctoral dissertation. He has some follow-up information that sheds some light on the current data available about abortions and Adventist hospitals. On his website www.Adventlife.Wordpress.com he refers to George Gainer’s paper and lists the hospitals above. He states, “A survey conducted three years later by the Loma Linda University Ethics Department revealed that five of these Adventist hospitals were engaged-like our [Adventist] CMH-in elective abortions.”33
He confirms what many have discovered: it is extremely hard to obtain accurate information about abortions done at Adventist hospitals. He has been able to obtain some information about Washington Adventist Hospital (WAH) in Maryland, however. First he quotes Gainer’s research published both in his paper and in the Washington Post: “As to numbers, participants in the ‘Pastors’ Protest Against Abortion’ [held on October 5, 1985] supplied the figure of 1,494 abortions performed at Washington Adventist Hospital from 1975 through July 1982. They said that the medical records office of the hospital supplied these statistics.”34 This number translates into an average of 213 abortions per year. Interestingly, there is a sudden drop in WAH’s abortion numbers after 2005.
Samojluk further refers to independent Catholic investigator Patrick Murebil’s findings: “a decade later the same Adventist hospital reported 547 abortions per year;35 but by 2006 the number of abortions in the same institution dropped to 47, with 48 reported for the 2007 year.”36
For on this issue see lifeassuranceministries.org/proclamation/2014/2/abortioninadvent.html.
thank you so much
Lord thank you for leading your children into ALL truth.
See our full reply to this person which starts with "You, having read Ellen White's 1858 book many times have concluded from it: 1. that her interpretation of 1844 is correct about the Sanctuary 2. Plagiarism is not important & 3. Ellen White did not teach the Trinity in it. These seem to be the main reasons you believe her book is " a very strong book." We would argue that all three of these reasons are why Ellen White is a false prophet who is leading legions of people to eternal destruction. Ellen's investigative judgement is false - see www.truthorfables.com/investigative_judgment_made_simple.htm , 2. Plagiarism when speaking as "The Spirit of Prophecy" should not be necessary when you're claiming it is from God - see www.truthorfables.com/searchresults.html?q=plagiarism&t=1557173586196 . 3. Denying the Trinity is to deny the very God of the Bible. 1) There is one God (Deuteronomy 6:4; 1 Corinthians 8:4; Galatians 3:20; 1 Timothy 2:5). 2) The Trinity consists of three Persons (Genesis 1:1, 26; 3:22; 11:7; Isaiah 6:8, 48:16, 61:1; Matthew 3:16-17, 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14)." @jenzzuffer says - "My only experience with seventh day adventism and ellen gould white is reading the great controversy edition from 1858. I think its a very strong book, i read it many times by now. i never joined the church and i dont intend to, what you are saying about the church is not ruining the messages of the book. I dont care what some men tried to interpret "cleaning the sanctuary" as, the book says that prophetic time closed in 1844. "Their mistake consisted in not understanding what the Sanctuary was, and the nature of its cleansing. Jesus did enter the Most Holy place to cleanse the Sanctuary at the ending of the days". "Time was fulfilled, but where was their Saviour? They had lost him. I was then shown the disappointment of the disciples as they came to the sepulchre and found not the body of Jesus. Said Mary, They have taken away my Lord, and I know not where they have laid him. Angels told the sorrowing disciples that their Lord had risen, and would go before them into Galilee. I saw that as Jesus looked upon the disappointed ones with the deepest compassion, he sent his angels to direct their minds that they might find him, and follow him where he was; that they might understand that the earth is not the Sanctuary; that he must needs enter the Most Holy place of the heavenly Sanctuary to cleanse it; to make a special atonement for Israel, and to receive the kingdom of his Father, and then return to earth and take them to dwell with him forever".
Furthermore I dont see why i should care about plagiarism. What matters is sending a message, an understanding. its a message and understanding that other people before her had and that other people after her still continue to have. intellectual property simply is irrelevant when wanting to spread an understanding regarding religion, there is no "i, me" in the matter, there is nothing to own. Its absurd to claim others wont use it again, of course they will. All things we could understand has already been understood by somebody before us and will be understood by somebody after us who will want to say the same messages again. Its literally the point that we get the same conclusions over and over again and have a desire to talk about them with people again.
Lastly, but not relevant to the video i want to say that i think the 1858 edition does not confirm the trinity but instead keeps a distinct separation between the holy ghost, god and jesus. I think that separation makes sense, i reject the trinity based on it." See our reply below to this statement.
Our reply to the above comment from @jenzzuffer is as follows: You, having read Ellen's 1858 book many times have concluded from it: 1. that her interpretation of 1844 is correct about the Sanctuary 2. Plagiarism is not important & 3. Ellen White did not teach the Trinity in it. These seem to be the main reasons you believe her book is " a very strong book." We would argue that all three of these reasons are why Ellen White is a false prophet who is leading legions of people to eternal destruction. Ellen's investigative judgement is false - see www.truthorfables.com/investigative_judgment_made_simple.htm , 2. Plagiarism when speaking as "The Spirit of Prophecy" should not be necessary when you're claiming it is from God - see www.truthorfables.com/searchresults.html?q=plagiarism&t=1557173586196 . 3. Denying the Trinity is to deny the very God of the Bible. 1) There is one God (Deuteronomy 6:4; 1 Corinthians 8:4; Galatians 3:20; 1 Timothy 2:5).
2) The Trinity consists of three Persons (Genesis 1:1, 26; 3:22; 11:7; Isaiah 6:8, 48:16, 61:1; Matthew 3:16-17, 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14). In Genesis 1:1, the Hebrew plural noun "Elohim" is used. In Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7 and Isaiah 6:8, the plural pronoun for “us” is used. The word "Elohim" and the pronoun “us” are plural forms, definitely referring in the Hebrew language to more than two. While this is not an explicit argument for the Trinity, it does denote the aspect of plurality in God. The Hebrew word for "God," "Elohim," definitely allows for the Trinity.
In Isaiah 48:16 and 61:1, the Son is speaking while making reference to the Father and the Holy Spirit. Compare Isaiah 61:1 to Luke 4:14-19 to see that it is the Son speaking. Matthew 3:16-17 describes the event of Jesus’ baptism. Seen in this passage is God the Holy Spirit descending on God the Son while God the Father proclaims His pleasure in the Son. Matthew 28:19 and 2 Corinthians 13:14 are other examples of passages that present three distinct Persons in the Trinity.
3) The members of the Trinity are distinguished one from another in various passages. In the Old Testament, “LORD” is distinguished from “Lord” (Genesis 19:24; Hosea 1:4). The LORD has a Son (Psalm 2:7, 12; Proverbs 30:2-4). The Spirit is distinguished from the “LORD” (Numbers 27:18) and from “God” (Psalm 51:10-12). God the Son is distinguished from God the Father (Psalm 45:6-7; Hebrews 1:8-9). In the New Testament, Jesus speaks to the Father about sending a Helper, the Holy Spirit (John 14:16-17). This shows that Jesus did not consider Himself to be the Father or the Holy Spirit. Consider also the other instances when Jesus speaks to the Father. Was He speaking to Himself? No. He spoke to another Person in the Trinity-the Father.
4) Each member of the Trinity is God. The Father is God (John 6:27; Romans 1:7; 1 Peter 1:2). The Son is God (John 1:1, 14; Romans 9:5; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:8; 1 John 5:20). The Holy Spirit is God (Acts 5:3-4; 1 Corinthians 3:16).
5) There is subordination within the Trinity. Scripture shows that the Holy Spirit is subordinate to the Father and the Son, and the Son is subordinate to the Father. This is an internal relationship and does not deny the deity of any Person of the Trinity. This is simply something our finite minds cannot understand concerning the infinite God. Concerning the Son see Luke 22:42, John 5:36, John 20:21, and 1 John 4:14. Concerning the Holy Spirit see John 14:16, 14:26, 15:26, 16:7, and especially John 16:13-14.
6) The individual members of the Trinity have different tasks. The Father is the ultimate source or cause of the universe (1 Corinthians 8:6; Revelation 4:11); divine revelation (Revelation 1:1); salvation (John 3:16-17); and Jesus’ human works (John 5:17; 14:10). The Father initiates all of these things.
The Son is the agent through whom the Father does the following works: the creation and maintenance of the universe (1 Corinthians 8:6; John 1:3; Colossians 1:16-17); divine revelation (John 1:1, 16:12-15; Matthew 11:27; Revelation 1:1); and salvation (2 Corinthians 5:19; Matthew 1:21; John 4:42). The Father does all these things through the Son, who functions as His agent.
The Holy Spirit is the means by whom the Father does the following works: creation and maintenance of the universe (Genesis 1:2; Job 26:13; Psalm 104:30); divine revelation (John 16:12-15; Ephesians 3:5; 2 Peter 1:21); salvation (John 3:6; Titus 3:5; 1 Peter 1:2); and Jesus’ works (Isaiah 61:1; Acts 10:38). Thus, the Father does all these things by the power of the Holy Spirit. See our playlist "Dealing with Anti Trinitarians (UPC) & Early Church History" with 91 videos at th-cam.com/play/PL9931642C7C8FFEAB.html .
Any denomination that can predict when God is coming is false. Jesus Christ himself does not know. Not even the angels know.
Can you tell me where you found that out? Can you link me a source because i would like to know more about that.
@@SuPerFabAline13 -(First Vision 12/1844) "It was just as impossible for them (those that gave up their faith in the 1844 movement) to get on the path again and go to the city, as all the wicked world which God had rejected. They fell all the way along the path one after another," (Foregoing now deleted) "until we heard the voice of God like many waters, WHICH GAVE US THE DAY AND HOUR OF JESUS' COMING. The living saints, 144,000 in number, knew and understood the voice, while the wicked thought it was thunder and an earthquake. When God spake the time, he poured on us the Holy Ghost, and our faces began to light up and shine with the glory of God as Moses' did when he came down from Mount Sinai." A WORD TO THE LITTLE FLOCK (1847 edition) p. 14. See also www.bible.ca/7-prophecy-blunders.htm , www.1timothy4-13.com/files/bible/sda_failed.html , & 1timothy4-13.com/files/bible/sda_morefailed.html . Matthew 7:15
People started new churches because of money making. They know that starting new churches is money making. God bless
Adventism is a business. Make no mistake about that.
If you go to page 5 of this report, you will see the SDA GC raked in US $3.2 BILLION in tithe and offering. That ain't small money at all.
They also have millions of dollars tied up in stock portfolios on Wall Street.
Don't forget that 1844 great disappointment or they take the voices in the seven thunders and put it to there and call it the great disappointment but the voices in the seven thunders you'll never be revealed until before the second coming of only to the prophet Elijah and let's not forget a few years ago they were having meetings about who was going to be the Elijah and now they just say we believe that we have the spirit of Elijah keep switching it up
The great disappointment is from the millerite movement. Adventism didn't become a thing until years later.
Adventism is a shoot off from the millerite movement. Just like the Amish and the existing millerites today they are all from the same movement even down to the jehovah witness
They confusing themselves
Live give our life to God creator Jesus Christ
Amen
how is this true if everything else was written?
Andili Augustinus - Seventh Day Adventism qualifies as a non Christian anti Christ cult due to the following reasons: 1. It is built on the woman Ellen G. White & her teachings despite the Bible saying women are not permitted to teach or usurp authority over men (1 Timothy 2:12, "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.") See links at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=112706102442, www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=59131749272 & th-cam.com/video/Ql_obI6wA9w/w-d-xo.html). 2. Ellen White claimed to be equal with the Biblical prophets & apostles through her many writings (sort of a "Spirit of Prophecy") & her SDA followers believed her (2 Peter 3:16); see www.truthorfables.com/EGW_Writings_Infallible.htm. Question: Are there modern day prophets or is there a need for prophets today? Answer: In the New Testament, the gift of the office of prophet was a temporary one granted by God for the purpose of building His Church. Contrary to the apostles, who had broad ministries, these men had localized ministries within local churches, as we see illustrated in such places as Acts 11:21-28 and Acts 13:1.Scripture shows us that the prophets of the New Testament had two primary purposes:They were gifted men given to the Church and appointed by God (Eph. 4:11, 1 Cor. 12:28) for the purpose of helping to lay the foundation of the Church (Eph. 2:20). They, like the apostles, received God’s revelation (Eph. 3:5) and truth and proclaimed it to their churches. It is important to remember that the early Church did not have a completed Bible, so God granted this revelation for the purpose of teaching His message to the Church. The New Testament prophets also spoke forth and taught the apostles’ doctrine. Everything taught by these prophets had to be consistent with the teaching of the apostles (1 Cor. 14:36-37). So, are prophets still needed today? Looking at the two functions listed above, we can see that the office of prophet is one that is no longer necessary and has ceased within the Church because:The foundation of the Church was laid long ago. God’s revealed Word was completed with the close of the New Testament canon. The Church’s foundation does not need to be laid again and there is no need for further revelation beyond what God has provided for us in His complete Word, the Bible. Today we are blessed to have Scripture as our complete and final authority in all things (2 Tim. 3:16-17). If someone now claims to have received a “special revelation,” we must test it against Scripture. If it is contrary to the Word of God, then it must be rejected. If it is consistent with Scripture, then we have to ask why an “extra” word was necessary if its truth is already contained in the Bible. So while we always need men who are willing to proclaim boldly the Word of God as contained in Scripture (as pastors, teachers, and evangelists), there is no need for the office of “prophet” as it existed in the New Testament.
3. Ellen G. White is a false prophet due to her false & failed prophecies (Deuteronomy 18:19-22); see www.mmoutreachinc.com/seventh_day_adventists/egw_false_prophet.html, 1timothy4-13.com/files/bible/sda_morefailed.html & www.bible.ca/7-prophecy-blunders.htm.
4. Ellen G. White had delusional dreams & visions much like phony Charismatic & Pentecostal TV preachers do today; see www.truthorfables.com/Visons_of_%20EGW_by_Snook_&_Brinkerhoff.htm & th-cam.com/video/Kbv7YsyMf0I/w-d-xo.html.
5. Seventh Day Adventism has a damnable false gospel (Galatians 1:6-10) for several reasons: a) Satan is the final sin bearer for Seventh Day Adventists; see www.truthorfables.com/Scapegoat.htm & www.truthorfables.net/50-contradictions-satan-bears-sins.htm, b) They say Jesus had a sinful nature just like fallen man otherwise He can't be a Savior; see kentbrandenburg.blogspot.com/2011/09/seventh-day-adventisms-anti.html & jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Seventh-Day%20Adventist/sda_exposed.htm, c) Ellen G. White taught the cult doctrine of the 1844 investigative judgment of Jesus in the heavenly sanctuary for the purpose of allowing Seventh Day Adventists final access to heaven while all others would be destroyed; see www.truthorfables.com/investigative_judgment_made_simple.htm, www.truthorfables.com/white_elephant.htm, www.truthorfables.com/My_Testimony.htm, www.truthorfables.com/SDA_Cult.htm & th-cam.com/video/J50HlZFYHtY/w-d-xo.html, d) Seventh Day Adventism denies the New Testament Christian gospel by saying Old Testament "Saturday" Sabbath keeping is essential for salvation; see www.truthorfables.com/Sabbath_Not_A_Law.htm, www.truthorfables.net/who-changed-the-sabbath-a.htm, www.truthorfables.com/Sabbath_is_Friday.htm & th-cam.com/video/w0L3rSSL_H8/w-d-xo.html, e) Although SDAs say they believe in salvation by grace they redefine the meaning of grace in order to incorporate into their religious system a salvation by law keeping to achieve final works righteousness; mmoutreachinc.com/seventh_day_adventists/sda_law.html, searchingthescriptures.net/main_pages/answering_cults/seventh_day_adventism/sda_a_cult.htm & th-cam.com/video/aIh3T31ujuU/w-d-xo.html. If the apostle Paul cursed the Galatian Judaizers to hell for adding only one stipulation to the gospel which was circumcision then how much more would he curse the SDAs for all their added terms & conditions to the simple gospel of grace (Ephesians 2:8-9, "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast." Cross reference this to Galatians 2:16, "Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.").
6. Seven Day Adventists teach the false doctrine of soul sleep; see carm.org/soul-sleep, www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=12151314134510, www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=85122122530 & www.casagrandebaptistchurch.com/SoulSleep.html.
7. SDAs teach the false doctrine of the annihilation out of existence of the wicked including Satan & his demons rather than an eternal conscious punishment in a never ending lake of fire; carm.org/clear-word-bible-annihilationism, "Eternal Punishment, part 1" at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=12607145320 & "Eternal Punishment, part 2" at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?sid=12607143539 where at the same time this refutes the arguments of universalists, annihilationists & heretics who say God is "all loving" & would not torment the wicked forever while they ignore the fact that God hates the wicked (Psalm 5:4-6, 11:5, Hosea 9:15, etc.; see our video "The God of the Bible Does Not Love Everybody But Actually Hates Many Instead (Romans 9:22)" at th-cam.com/video/0zHEJCHgQVg/w-d-xo.html, www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=91713193277, www.jashow.org/wiki/index.php?title=Annihilationism, www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=94081054442, www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=9110884114, www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=219131311338, th-cam.com/video/_O-LMpP6bAg/w-d-xo.html & see our playlist "Dealing with Hell, Lake of Fire, Unpopular Bible Doctrines" with 30 videos at th-cam.com/play/PLE04A1D0DFE95B95E.html.
8. SDAs support alternate Bible translations that pervert the written word of God thus placing themselves under the curse of Revelation 22:18-19, "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." See exadventist.com/Home/Articles/clearwordbible/tabid/450/Default.aspx, www.truthorfables.com/SDAs_Destroyers_of_the_Bible.htm & th-cam.com/video/7EsY1srHYJc/w-d-xo.html.
For more information on Seventh Day Adventism see our playlist "Dealing with Seventh-day Adventism & Their "Prophetess"" with 44 videos at th-cam.com/play/PL5316CC6F66F24283.html, see also "Cult of Seventh Day Adventism" at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=61210437590 & "Damnable Heresies of Seventh Day Adventism" at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=6201014412510. See the following websites: www.TruthorFables.com, www.LifeAssuranceMinistries.org, www.ExAdventist.com, www.RethinkingAdventism.com, www.Sabbatismos.com, & www.GreatControversyExposed.com. Titus 1:9-16
@@CAnswersTV amen, and thank u so much 4 speaking out, and exposing the works of darkness,,,
What is the name of the church and where is it....
Kristy Young - Question: "Which church is the true church?" Answer: Which church-that is, which denomination of Christianity-is the “true church”? Which church is the one that God loves and cherishes and died for? Which church is His bride? The answer is that no visible church or denomination is the true church, because the bride of Christ is not an institution, but is instead a spiritual entity made up of those who have by grace through faith been brought into a close, intimate relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ (Ephesians 2:8-9). Those people, no matter which building, denomination, or country they happen to be in, constitute the true church. In the Bible, we see that the local (or visible) church is nothing more than a gathering of professing believers.
In Paul’s letters, the word church is used in two different ways. There are many examples of the word church being used to simply refer to a group of professing believers who meet together on a regular basis (1 Corinthians 16:9; 2 Corinthians 8:1; 11:28). We see Paul’s concern, in his letters, for the individual churches in various cities along his missionary journey. But he also refers to a church that is invisible-a spiritual entity that has close fellowship with Christ, as close as a bride to her husband (Ephesians 5:25, 32), and of which He is the spiritual head (Colossians 1:18; Ephesians 3:21). This church is made up of an unnamed, unspecified group of individuals (Philippians 3:6;1Timothy 3:5) that have Christ in common. The word church is a translation of the Greek word ekklesia, meaning “a called-out assembly.” The word describes a group of people who have been called out of the world and set apart for the Lord, and it is always used, in its singular form, to describe a universal group of people who know Christ. The word ekklesia, when pluralized, is used to describe groups of believers who meet together.
Interestingly enough, the word church is never used in the Bible to describe a building or organization. It is easy to get ensnared by the idea that a particular denomination within Christianity is “the true church,” but this view is a misunderstanding of Scripture. When choosing a church to attend, it is important to remember that a gathering of believers should be a place where those who belong to the true church (the spiritual entity) feel at home. That is to say, a good local church will uphold the Word of God, honoring it and preaching faithfully, proclaim the gospel steadfastly, and feed and tend the sheep. A church that teaches heresy or engages in sin will eventually be very low on (or entirely bereft of) those people that belong to the true church-the sheep who hear the voice of the Shepherd and follow Him (John 10:27).
Members of the true church always enjoy agreement in and fellowship around Jesus Christ, as He is plainly revealed in His Word. This is what is referred to as Christian unity. Another common mistake is to believe that Christian unity is just a matter of agreeing with one another. Simple agreement for the sake of agreement does not speak the truth in love or spur one another on to unity in Christ; rather, it encourages believers to refrain from speaking difficult truths. It sacrifices true understanding of God in favor of a false unity based on disingenuous love that is nothing more than selfish tolerance of sin in oneself and others.
The true church is the bride of Christ (Revelation 21:2, 9; 22:17) and the body of Christ (Ephesians 4:12; 1 Corinthians 12:27). It cannot be contained, walled in, or defined by anything other than its love for Christ and its dedication to Him. Thus it is not the Roman Catholic Church, the Mormon Church, the Seventh-day Adventists, etc. or any church organization with a specific name but it is only truly saved born again Christians spread throughout the world (John 3:3-8).
Jesus did say to beware of false prophets who look like Christians (Matthew 7:15) so you really have to be careful or you could be deceived into a false religion which will damn your soul. Our TH-cam channel CAnswersTV (which stands for "Christian Answers Television") at th-cam.com/users/CAnswersTV has 19 playlists & over 750 videos to help people discern who are the false prophets & who are not based on what the Bible teaches. The bottom line is that it simply takes a lot of time & effort to protect your soul from all the deceptions that are out there while you're in this life. Most people who end up in hell never took the proper time or effort to study if things were true or not according to what the Bible teaches (Acts 17:11). 1 Peter 5:8, "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour ...".
Kristy Young The true church is the body of Christ. People want to talk about temples, church's, synagogues, but the true temple is your body. The temple made without hands, where the Holy Spirit dwells, in you. Do you not know that you're body is the temple for the Holy Spirit who is in you. Paul is talking to the Corinthians, they are saved Christians, and they are saved and have the Holy Spirit because, they have come to Christ Jesus the Lord, they believed in him, to trust what he did for us on the cross and his resurrection. To be born again.Jesus is God in the flesh, the Savior of the world. God bless.
@@CAnswersTV amen,, yes u r right,, its the born again believers, who have the indwelling of HOLY SPIRIT,, AND AN INTIMATE, PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP, WITH JESUS,, BC JESUS, HIMSELF SAID U CANNOT ENTER, IF U R NOT BORN AGAIN, OF THE SPIRIT,,, thank u so very much 4 yr comment, it was greatly recieved,,,
@@JohnDoe-rs3oh Thank you you helped me too.
I want to know which church he joined!?🤔
This is just a short 10 minute clip from the full length video called "Former Seventh-day Adventist Pastor for 13 Years Gives His Testimony Why Adventism is Wrong" at th-cam.com/video/c37bNhYzdbE/w-d-xo.html . If you don't get the answer there you can contact his ministry at www.lifeassuranceministries.com, www.lifeassuranceministries.org or email him your question at proclamation@gmail.com & also get free materials.
3/4 through this and still waiting for a specific example of his claims.
Derek James - This particular video is only a short 10 minute clip from a longer 47 minute video called "Former Seventh-day Adventist Pastor for 13 Years Gives His Testimony Why Adventism is Wrong" at th-cam.com/video/c37bNhYzdbE/w-d-xo.html. You can get a free written transcript of it at media-cloud.sermonaudio.com/text/79161824122.pdf . Most people only have a 10 minute attention span but it looks like yours is about 7 minutes long so if you want to cut to the chase check out the links in the following. It's not good to claim to have visions from God & messages from angels like Ellen White did & at the same time plagiarize from people who were not angels or God, that's just not an honest thing to do. Regarding EGW plagiarism. Walter Rey’s "White Lie" book lists dozens of examples which is available at www.amazon.com/White-Lie-Walter-T-Rea/dp/B01JXO19BW . Another book, "White Washed" by former Adventist pastor Sydney Cleveland is excellent as well. You can get that book at www.sabbathinchrist.com/index.php/product/white-washed/ . Regarding Revelation 12:14 and 19:10, you can find this in the chapter “The Sabbath and Seventh-day Adventists” in Dale Ratzlaff's book "Sabbath in Christ." This can be purchased here at www.SabbathinChrist.com . Additional questions can be emailed to dale@ratzlaf.com .
For more information about Ellen G. White's plagiarism - Ellen White's books/testimonies contain a large amount of material Mrs. White and her group of college educated secretaries plagiarized from non-inspired authors. She had a library of 1200 books to copy from. Ellen White did not give credit for her sources, while she led her followers to believe the material she wrote came from the throne of God. "In these letters which I write, in the testimonies I bear, I am presenting to you that which the Lord has presented to me. I do not write one article in the paper expressing merely my own ideas. They are what God has opened before me in vision--the precious rays of light shining from the throne." Testimonies for the Church Vol. 5 (1882-1889), page 67. See "The White Lie" by Walter Rea under Books. Some of the major sources of Ellen White's writings: John Harris, "The Great Teacher;" Frederic Farrar, "The Life of Christ;" George Jones, "Life-Scenes From the Four Gospels;" Alfred Edersheim, "The Life and Times of Jesus the Messiah;" J. H. Ingraham, "The Prince of the House of David;" Francis Wayland, "Salvation by Christ;" and John Cumming, "Sabbath Evening Readings on the New Testament: St. John."
For more see www.truthorfables.com/ & www.truthorfables.com/Great_Controversy_Plagiarism.htm ; "SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISM IS BASED ON THE PLAGERIZED WRITINGS OF ELLEN G. WHITE" at th-cam.com/video/nIsIS8mTpbs/w-d-xo.html&index=7&list=PL5316CC6F66F24283 with former Adventist Mark Martin of www.exadventist.com/ . See also www.rethinkingadventism.com/ & www.nonsda.org/ . See our entire playlist called "Dealing with Seventh-day Adventism & Their "Prophetess" with 51 videos at th-cam.com/play/PL5316CC6F66F24283.html .
What was the 1st religion? I affiliate w/ none as to not he falsely undoctrinated. I was born into a cult & said never again; I only got out due to my open mind & my brother telling me to do my research (which that church condemns). Now I believe in a personal relationship w/ God through his word. However the Bible says do not forsake the gathering. So I am not sure what is best.
A.Pal - Going by the Bible as the standard for truth we see in the early chapters of Genesis that Adam & Eve had the very first religious experience of seeing that God the Creator was there among them. The Bible goes on to tell the rest of the story all the way through the book of Revelation. I think your brother was on the right track when he said "do your research" which is not condemned by anyone who has a truly Biblical worldview despite what various "churches" might tell you. After all the Bible says, "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." (2 Timothy 2:15). Our ministry has spent the last 40 years researching what various religions teach in contrast to what the Bible teaches so we can help people not get duped by false prophets (see our main TH-cam channel with it's 19 playlists on numerous topics at www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=canswerstv & our video called "CAnswersTV is Christian Answers Television, 19 Playlists, 800 Videos: The Bible vs. False Prophets" at th-cam.com/video/8Rc-k8HcfiE/w-d-xo.html .
You are right about Hebrews 10:25, "not abandoning our own meeting together, as is the habit of some people, but encouraging one another; and all the more as you see the day drawing near." but how can you do that if you don't know who is true & who is false? You have to study, research & know what the Bible teaches before you join just any group or church. Our ministry doesn't try to get anyone to join a particular church but rather we preach that people should know their Bibles (which is a shield against false prophets). Besides that our ministry doesn't beg people for money either. Thus get a good understanding of what the Bible teaches then find a good Bible church to associate with (that's what I did when I was supernaturally "born again" (John 3:3-8) back on May 16, 1981). May the Lord bless your studies. 2 Timothy 3:16-17, "All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work."
@@CAnswersTV Thank you very much for your reply & thoughtful scriptures. These things are in my prayers😊 I agree about a Bible based church. I recently heard about the Jews who do believe in Jesus. I hadn't heard of them before. They formed a group in Israel incorporating the old/original teachings from the scrolls.
@@TheSleuthFairy - What you are talking about is sometimes called Messianic Judaism, also known as Hebrew Christianity. It is a movement within Judaism where Jews believe in Jesus of the New Testament and consider Him the Messiah who was prophesied in the Old Testament such as : The Messiah would be born in Bethlehem (Micah 5:1-2).
The Messiah would be born of a virgin (Isaiah 7:14). The Messiah would be God in flesh (Isaiah 9:6; Zech. 12:10). The Messiah will be borne to the house of David (Jeremiah 23: 5-6). The Messiah would be killed for the sins of Israel ( Isaiah 53:1-10). The Messiah would rise from the dead (Psalm 16:10).
Messianic Jews believe that Jesus is the Son of God, the second person of the Trinity. However, some who claim to be Messianics deny that Jesus is God in the flesh. These are not true Messianics in the biblical sense, since they are denying who Jesus really is (John 1:1,14; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:8).
Messianic Jews also retain most of the Old Testament Jewish practices as described in the Old Testament (i.e. Saturday Sabbath, circumcision, kosher laws, holy days, rabbis, etc.) because they desire to hold onto their Jewish roots and honor God according to what is revealed in the Old Testament. Where Jesus practiced the Old Testament Law (Matt. 5:17; Gal. 4:4), Messianic Jews do too. This is fine, as long as their keeping of the Old Testament laws are not a means by which salvation is attained or maintained.
Messianics usually refer to Jesus by the Jewish name of “Yeshua,” which means “salvation.” But, generally, Messianic Jews do not believe in abandoning their Jewish heritage and joining Christian churches and worshipping on Sunday - though some do. They believe it is the most Jewish thing to follow Yeshua in a manner consistent with their heritage and attend synagogues on Saturday.
There are many variations within the movement of Messianic Judaism. Some are within Christian orthodoxy, and some are not. There are approximately 100,000 Messianic Jews in America alone, with more and more coming to believe in Yeshua the Messiah in other nations.
Something to watch out for are a couple of cultic movements that have attached themselves with the Jews in a bogus way: the Hebrew Roots Movement (HRM) - see our videos: "Divine Curse of the Hebrew Roots Movement - Replacing Jesus with the Old Testament Jewish Torah" at th-cam.com/video/wdTxde_shDQ/w-d-xo.html & "Torah Cult of the Hebrew Roots Movement: Responding to Wolves in Old Testament Mosaic Law Clothing" at th-cam.com/video/VnQFmSlgKpM/w-d-xo.html ; & the other cultic movement is the Black Hebrew Israelites, see our video "Myths of the Black Hebrew Israelites: Theological Racism, Black King James Only, Apocrypha, Whites" at th-cam.com/video/9TiqBceXoH8/w-d-xo.html . To see what modern day Judaism teaches see our video called "Babylonian Talmud is a Jewish Law & Oral Tradition Book of over 10 million Words Across 38 Volumes" at th-cam.com/video/ZtvgDGUwmYs/w-d-xo.html .
May God bless your studies. 1 Peter 3:15
Where two or three gather together in my name my authority I will be in the midst of them
That's the foundation of every local called out assembly.
For much more on the religion of Ellen G. White see our playlist called "Dealing with Seventh-day Adventism & Their "Prophetess"" with 53 videos at th-cam.com/play/PL5316CC6F66F24283.html. Some of these videos come with free written transcripts such as "Former Seventh-day Adventist Pastor for 13 Years Gives His Testimony Why Adventism is Wrong" at media-cloud.sermonaudio.com/text/79161824122.pdf (also available in 20 languages). See also: www.truthorfables.com/ , www.LifeAssuranceMinistries.org , www.ExAdventist.com , www.nonsda.org/ & www.ellenlied.com/ . Matthew 7:15, "Beware of false prophets ..."
1 Timothy 2:12, "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence." See links: "The Sheep Need Men to be Their Pastors - The Blasphemy of Women Pastors" at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=112706102442, "Can Women Be Pastors?" at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=59131749272 & "Unpopular Bible Doctrines #7: God Condemns Astrology, Witchcraft, & Sin; No Women Pastors Allowed" at th-cam.com/video/Ql_obI6wA9w/w-d-xo.html).
Question: "Women pastors / preachers? Can a woman be a pastor or preacher?"
Answer: There is perhaps no more hotly debated issue in the church today
than the issue of women serving as pastors/preachers. As a result, it
is very important to not see this issue as men versus women. There are
women who believe women should not serve as pastors and that the Bible
places restrictions on the ministry of women, and there are men who
believe women can serve as preachers and that there are no restrictions
on women in ministry. This is not an issue of chauvinism or
discrimination. It is an issue of biblical interpretation.
The Word of God proclaims, “A woman should learn in quietness and full
submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a
man; she must be silent” (1 Timothy 2:11-12).
In the church, God assigns different roles to men and women. This is a
result of the way mankind was created and the way in which sin entered
the world (1 Timothy 2:13-14).
God, through the apostle Paul, restricts women from serving in roles of
teaching and/or having spiritual authority over men. This precludes
women from serving as pastors over men, which definitely includes
preaching to them, teaching them publicly, and exercising spiritual
authority over them.
There are many objections to this view of women in pastoral ministry. A
common one is that Paul restricts women from teaching because in the
first century, women were typically uneducated. However, 1 Timothy 2:11-14
nowhere mentions educational status. If education were a qualification
for ministry, then the majority of Jesus’ disciples would not have been
qualified. A second common objection is that Paul only restricted the
women of Ephesus from teaching men (1 Timothy was written to Timothy,
the pastor of the church in Ephesus). Ephesus was known for its temple
to Artemis, and women were the authorities in that branch of
paganism-therefore, the theory goes, Paul was only reacting against the
female-led customs of the Ephesian idolaters, and the church needed to
be different. However, the book of 1 Timothy nowhere mentions Artemis,
nor does Paul mention the standard practice of Artemis worshipers as a
reason for the restrictions in 1 Timothy 2:11-12.
A third objection is that Paul is only referring to husbands and wives,
not men and women in general. The Greek words for “woman” and “man” in 1
Timothy 2 could refer to husbands and wives; however, the basic meaning
of the words is broader than that. Further, the same Greek words are
used in verses 8-10. Are only husbands to lift up holy hands in prayer
without anger and disputing (verse 8)? Are only wives to dress modestly,
have good deeds, and worship God (verses 9-10)? Of course not. Verses
8-10 clearly refer to all men and women, not just husbands and wives.
There is nothing in the context that would indicate a narrowing to
husbands and wives in verses 11-14.
Yet another objection to this interpretation of women in pastoral
ministry is in relation to women who held positions of leadership in the
Bible, specifically Miriam, Deborah, and Huldah in the Old Testament.
It is true that these women where chosen by God for special service to
Him and that they stand as models of faith, courage, and, yes,
leadership. However, the authority of women in the Old Testament is not
relevant to the issue of pastors in the church. The New Testament
Epistles present a new paradigm for God’s people-the church, the body of
Christ-and that paradigm involves an authority structure unique to the
church, not for the nation of Israel or any other Old Testament entity.
Similar arguments are made using Priscilla and Phoebe in the New
Testament. In Acts 18, Priscilla and Aquila are presented as faithful
ministers for Christ. Priscilla’s name is mentioned first, perhaps
indicating that she was more prominent in ministry than her husband. Did
Priscilla and her husband teach the gospel of Jesus Christ to Apollos?
Yes, in their home they “explained to him the way of God more
adequately” (Acts 18:26).
Does the Bible ever say that Priscilla pastored a church or taught
publicly or became the spiritual leader of a congregation of saints? No.
As far as we know, Priscilla was not involved in ministry activity in
contradiction to 1 Timothy 2:11-14.
In Romans 16:1, Phoebe is called a “deacon” (or “servant”) in the church
and is highly commended by Paul. But, as with Priscilla, there is
nothing in Scripture to indicate that Phoebe was a pastor or a teacher
of men in the church. “Able to teach” is given as a qualification for
elders, but not for deacons (1 Timothy 3:1-13; Titus 1:6-9).
The structure of 1 Timothy 2:11-14
makes the reason why women cannot be pastors perfectly clear. Verse 13
begins with “for,” giving the “cause” of Paul’s statement in verses
11-12. Why should women not teach or have authority over men? Because
“Adam was created first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it
was the woman who was deceived” (verses 13-14). God created Adam first
and then created Eve to be a “helper” for Adam. The order of creation
has universal application in the family (Ephesians 5:22-33) and in the church.
The fact that Eve was deceived is also given in 1 Timothy 2:14
as a reason for women not serving as pastors or having spiritual
authority over men. This does not mean that women are gullible or that
they are all more easily deceived than men. If all women are more easily
deceived, why would they be allowed to teach children (who are easily
deceived) and other women (who are supposedly more easily deceived)? The
text simply says that women are not to teach men or have spiritual
authority over men because Eve was deceived. God has chosen to give men
the primary teaching authority in the church.
Many women excel in gifts of hospitality, mercy, teaching, evangelism,
and helps. Much of the ministry of the local church depends on women.
Women in the church are not restricted from public praying or
prophesying (1 Corinthians 11:5), only from having spiritual teaching
authority over men. The Bible nowhere restricts women from exercising
the gifts of the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 12). Women, just as much as
men, are called to minister to others, to demonstrate the fruit of the
Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23), and to proclaim the gospel to the lost (Matthew 28:18-20; Acts 1:8; 1 Peter 3:15).
God has ordained that only men are to serve in positions of spiritual
teaching authority in the church. This is not because men are
necessarily better teachers or because women are inferior or less
intelligent (which is not the case). It is simply the way God designed
the church to function. Men are to set the example in spiritual
leadership-in their lives and through their words. Women are to take a
less authoritative role. Women are encouraged to teach other women
(Titus 2:3-5). The Bible also does not restrict women from teaching
children. The only activity women are restricted from is teaching or
having spiritual authority over men. This precludes women from serving
as pastors to men. This does not make women less important, by any
means, but rather gives them a ministry focus more in agreement with
God’s plan and His gifting of them.
I'm a seventh day adventist but I have to say I can't stand how they said Ellen white was god speaking in a human form just stop pleez they littarly pretty much worship Ellen white
Yes...They revere Ellen G White.
The entire identity of the Adventists as "The Remnant Church" is wrapped up in her writings. Once you start to see the problem with that premise, the Adventist church is exposed as a cult.
Blaze the inferno so I guess we can say that it isn't a man made church.
PS 147:19-20 ""He shewed His word unto Jacob, His statutes and His judgments unto Israel [not the Gentles]
He has not dealt so with any other nation: and as for His judgments, they have not known them. Praise you the LORD." The Law was given to the Jews not the Gentles. ACTS 15:24 "Forasmuch as we [the Apostles] have heard, that certain ones which went out from us have troubled you [Gentles] with words, subverting your souls, saying, You must be circumcised, and keep the Law: to whom we gave no such commandment:" ACTS 15:28-29 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you [Gentles] no greater burden than these necessary things; That you abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if you keep yourselves, you shall do well. Fare you well."
Gentles are a law unto themselves says ROM 2:14 who have similar moral laws as says the 10 Commandments but not exactly the same [no Sabbath law] It is by this moral code written in the heart of the Gentles that the Gentles are convicted of sin and therefore their need for Christ.
My child's former elementary school teacher is a seventh day adventist. Although she kept the sabbath, all of her actions (deceit, manipulation, divisiveness, mischief, prejudice, pride, dishonest, lies, no integrity) would lead anyone to believe that in no form or fashion does she resembles a Christian. She called all of the members at the sda her brothers and sisters but she didn't consider Christians outside of sda as her brothers and sisters, so she feels that she could treat us any kind of way without repentance. I nor my child or anyone else I spoke to who know her, ever heard this woman apologise when she was wrong, let alone, ask for forgiveness for tresspassing.
This sounds exactly like my SDA mother.
@@dewilew2137 and my Jehovah's witness mother (at least in the past; she left the church but I don't think she has found the Lord yet. She is still dependent on a works-based theology).
There is wheat and tares everywhere.
Watch and pray that we are wheat.
This is crazy because I know someone just like this who introduced me to SDA. God definitely is bringing the truth to my eyes to deliver me from this person. I am shocked! Please pray for me!
PS 147:19-20 ""He shewed His word unto Jacob, His statutes and His judgments unto Israel [not the Gentles]
He has not dealt so with any other nation: and as for His judgments, they have not known them. Praise you the LORD." The Law was given to the Jews not the Gentles. ACTS 15:24 "Forasmuch as we [the Apostles] have heard, that certain ones which went out from us have troubled you [Gentles] with words, subverting your souls, saying, You must be circumcised, and keep the Law: to whom we gave no such commandment:" ACTS 15:28-29 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you [Gentles] no greater burden than these necessary things; That you abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if you keep yourselves, you shall do well. Fare you well."
Gentles are a law unto themselves says ROM 2:14 who have similar moral laws as says the 10 Commandments but not exactly the same [no Sabbath law] It is by this moral code written in the heart of the Gentles that the Gentles are convicted of sin and therefore their need for Christ.
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You notice all the thumbs down? SDA with its members are very active online. Anything that exposes the facts about SDA is fought against (given thumbs down). This one part is different from other cults like JWs which instructs their people to never go online lest they find out the truth.
Thank you for the video ex SDA cult Pastor.
I'm thinking they TROLL the comments board of TH-cam by alerting one another through social media or they are compulsive in daily checking using keywords in TH-cam search to find videos like this one speaking against their religion and their prophetess. I'm convinced at this point that is what they are doing. Like a little army trolling the internet.
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Linda Womack - Excellent advice. The problem you have here is 2 Corinthians 11:4, "For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough." Satan runs throughout the world promoting fake versions of Jesus & fake gospels so people will be deceived & end up in hell for eternity (see our playlist on hell called "Dealing with Hell, Lake of Fire, Unpopular Bible Doctrines" with 61 videos at th-cam.com/play/PLE04A1D0DFE95B95E.html ) so you have to make sure it's the true Bible version of Jesus & the gospel that is being promoted (for more on that see our video called "IS JESUS GOD ALMIGHTY IN THE FLESH MEANING THE SECOND PERSON OF THE TRINITY OR IS HE SOMETHING ELSE?" at th-cam.com/video/_BlPm7M7uv8/w-d-xo.html ). See also our playlist "Dealing with Anti Trinitarians (UPC) & Early Church History" with 83 videos at th-cam.com/play/PL9931642C7C8FFEAB.html .
Here's a few examples of the Devil's fake versions of Jesus:
*Seventh-day Adventists say Jesus is not the final sin bearer for sinners but Satan is, see www.truthorfables.com/Scapegoat.htm & our video "Cult Doctrine of Seventh-day Adventism: 1844 Probation & Satan As A Final Sin Bearer for Adventists" at th-cam.com/video/J50HlZFYHtY/w-d-xo.html . Many SDA confuse Jesus with the Archangel Michael - see www.truthorfables.com/Is_Michael_Christ.htm . See also our playlist "Dealing with Seventh-day Adventism & Their "Prophetess" with 55 videos at th-cam.com/play/PL5316CC6F66F24283.html ).
*Roman Catholics say Jesus becomes a piece of bread during the Roman mass & thus should be worshiped in the form of bread as Jesus; that Jesus is stern & austere thus it is better to pray to Mary & other saints to get better results (see our playlist "Dealing with Roman Catholicism, Idolatry & the Virgin Mary" with 219 videos at th-cam.com/play/PLFFA8D69D1B914715.html ).
*Jehovah's Witnesses say Jesus is not God in the flesh but was created as the Archangel Michael (see our playlist "Dealing with Jehovah's Witnesses, Watchtower Society" with 56 videos at th-cam.com/play/PLCF0ADB29C0EB8C40.html ).
*Mormons say Jesus is one of millions of gods & was created by sex between the god Elohim & Mary (see our playlist "Dealing with Mormonism, The Con Man Religion of Joseph Smith, Jr. with 51 videos at th-cam.com/play/PL11CD0EE613306BB5.html ).
*Muslims say Jesus is a prophet but certainly not God in the flesh or the Son of God & that Jesus was never crucified (see our playlist "Dealing with Islam, Muslims: Sunni, Shi'ite, Alawites, Sufis" with 98 videos at th-cam.com/play/PL1C7F68B548009FDD.html ).
*Jews say Jesus is not the Messiah, was a false prophet & blasphemer, is now in hell & was the bastard son of Mary & a Roman soldier (see our video "Babylonian Talmud is a Jewish Law & Oral Tradition Book of over 10 million Words Across 38 Volumes" at th-cam.com/video/ZtvgDGUwmYs/w-d-xo.html ).
*Christian Scientists say Jesus was not the Christ or God but just a man (an idea that Mary had) who displayed the Christ idea or principle of living (see our video "NEW AGE HEALING CULT OF MARY BAKER EDDY: "CHRISTIAN SCIENCE" - NEITHER CHRISTIAN NOR SCIENTIFIC" at th-cam.com/video/H7bsJy649L8/w-d-xo.html ).
*Moonies say Jesus was a failure & got crucified before he could complete his mission of getting married to a woman therefore Rev. Sun Myung Moon had to come out of Korea & complete Jesus' mission on earth (see our various videos on Moon's religion beginning with our video "Moonstruck: Rev. Moon's "Church" #1: History & Teachings of Moon's Cult" at th-cam.com/video/mr73BZJd0Hg/w-d-xo.html ).
*Hindus say Jesus was a guru & an incarnation of a Hindu god Vishnu & Jesus does not atone for sins among the 300 million other gods (see our videos on Hinduism on our playlist "Dealing with AntiChrist Cults, "New Age" & World Religions with 84 videos at th-cam.com/play/PL69A3047B3497590A.html ). See also our website on Hinduism at www.biblequery.org/OtherBeliefs/Hinduism/Hinduism.html .
*Atheists say Jesus never existed and is simply a fairy tale for the gullible (see our playlist "Dealing with "God Hating" Atheists, Agnostics, Know-It-Alls" with 44 videos at th-cam.com/play/PL640E505B96CD6B39.html ).
*Liberal Theologians say the Bible can't be trusted & is full of myths & fables thus the Jesus presented in it can't be trusted as true (see our videos "WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING - LIBERAL CHRISTIANITY #1: DENOMINATIONAL FALSE PROPHETS - ACTS 20:28-31" at th-cam.com/video/iNSCQF65aeA/w-d-xo.html & "WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING - LIBERAL CHRISTIANITY #2: NEO-ORTHODOXY - GOSPEL REDEFINITION" at th-cam.com/video/qdg8EJrqUuc/w-d-xo.html .
*People who believe in Darwin's Theory of Evolution say the earth is billions of years old , the universe resulted from a "Big Bang" based on random chance & thus no god or Jesus is necessarily needed. These people assume scientism is true rather than the Bible without answering basic questions like: 1. Where did the basic matter of the universe originate? 2. How did life begin? 3. Where are all the supposed transitional fossils between Preambrian & Cambrian Periods? 4. From where did the dinosaur come? See our playlist "Dealing with Darwin's Metaphysical Evolution Religion" with 38 videos at th-cam.com/play/PL0703E78058346A52.html . See also answersingenesis.org/ , ianjuby.org/ , www.icr.org/ , & www.creationscience.com/ .
*For more bad ideas about Jesus from phony TV preachers see our playlist "Dealing with Phony TV Preachers (TBN) ..." with 60 videos at th-cam.com/play/PL2CDA855486B09128.html . One video from this playlist is called "Blasphemous Charismatic & Pentecostal Mayhem #3: They All Get Sick & Die, Scripture Twisting Liars" at th-cam.com/video/H5OkOofKNOo/w-d-xo.html .
Naturally, if you have the wrong Jesus this will result in damning your soul to hell while at the same time the false Jesus will also feed you a false gospel. Galatians 1:6-9, "6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel- 7 not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed."
There is a cosmic war currently going on between the God of the Bible & Satan so always remember the following, 2 Corinthians 11:13-15, " 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. 14 No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds." & 1 Peter 5:8, "Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour."
Hopefully now, John 14:6. "6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the away, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." has much greater significance to you.
The Bible tells us a great deal about Jesus. Following is a list of some of what Scripture teaches about Him.
He is prayed to, Acts 7:55-60; 1 Cor. 1:2 with Psalm 116:4; John 14:14
He is worshiped, Matt. 2:2,11; 14:33; John 9:35-38; Heb. 1:6
He cleanses from sin, 1 John 1:9
He forgives sins, Matt. 9:1-7; Luke 5:20; 7:48
He is the image of the invisible God, Heb. 1:3
He gives eternal life, John 10:28
He has all authority, Matthew 28:18
He is the light of the world, John 8:12
He came to save, John 3:17
He came to die and destroy Satan’s power, Heb. 2:14
John 20:28, “Thomas answered and said to Him, ‘My Lord and my God!'”
Col. 2:9, “For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form.”
Heb. 1:8, “But of the Son He says, “Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever…”
1 Peter 3:15, "15 but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect, ..."
@@CAnswersTV I understand what you are saying, but I think there is a BIG difference between following another religion/gospel (such as being Muslim or other religions) where you believe in Jesus’ existence but don’t accept him as Lord and Savior and son of God. I think most Christians truly are believing in and accepting the Jesus of the Bible. He also knows our hearts and whether it is him we seek vs some false idol or false god. I cannot for a second believe that anyone who truly accepts Jesus and believes in him as the son of God and he who died on the cross and was resurrected would be doomed to hell just because they are of a different denomination (Presbyterian, Baptist, etc.) and may interpret certain versus different. Even Adventists don’t know if they are 100% correct in their interpretations.
@@ChrisH-so1id - Sorry must disagree with you here & go with what Jesus said instead. Jesus said only a few would be saved & many would be lost including people that claimed to be true Christians. See Matthew 7:13-27, Luke 13:23-30, Luke 14:26-35. See our video documentation of this at "Bible Says Most Will Go to Eternal Damnation But a Few Will Receive God's Grace & Go To Eternal Joy" at th-cam.com/video/tlLkoB7yIhU/w-d-xo.html . Matthew 7:15-20, "15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them."
@@CAnswersTV Do you have a video or series on what the true lesson/message to the New Testament church is? I'm confused as to what the perfect & true will of Christ is, between Torah followers, Sunday keepers, Sabbath keepers, legalists, liberals etc. Thank you.
@@davidkaminski4952 - The true lesson to the New Testament church is found in our video called "What is the Gospel according to the Bible? Short Version Gospel to More Detailed Explanations" at th-cam.com/video/bPwPcCwlTQY/w-d-xo.html . Soon we will be posting a new video on our channel which will be about essential Bible doctrines by which you cannot be a Christian without believing these doctrines (probably within the next couple of weeks). If you want to know what the early Christian church looked like at the beginning we have an 18 part series starting with "EARLY CHRISTIAN CHURCH HISTORY #1: WHO'S WHO IN EARLY PRE-NICENE CHRISTIAN WRITERS" at th-cam.com/video/RNVNgZc82a4/w-d-xo.html & work your way through the entire series on the early Christian church in history & also check our website historycart.com/ . For Torah, Sabbath keepers see our videos: " "Babylonian Talmud is a Jewish Law & Oral Tradition Book of over 10 million Words Across 38 Volumes" at th-cam.com/video/ZtvgDGUwmYs/w-d-xo.html , "Divine Curse of the Hebrew Roots Movement - Replacing Jesus with the Old Testament Jewish Torah" at th-cam.com/video/wdTxde_shDQ/w-d-xo.html (this video covers legalism too), "Is Sabbath Keeping Essential to Be a Real Christian? Former SDA Pastor Answers This Question" at th-cam.com/video/w0L3rSSL_H8/w-d-xo.html , Sunday keepers see carm.org/about-the-church/why-do-we-worship-on-sunday-instead-of-saturday/ , dealing with liberalism see both our videos on that topic beginning with "WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING - LIBERAL CHRISTIANITY #1: DENOMINATIONAL FALSE PROPHETS - ACTS 20:28-31" at th-cam.com/video/iNSCQF65aeA/w-d-xo.html . Our website at www.biblequery.org/ may answer a bunch more of your questions. Hope this helps. May the Lord bless your studies. 2 Timothy 2:15, "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness."
Why is the SDA LOGO has an upside down cross
And they are protesting against it....
SDA teaching is an old testament, true christian follow Jesus teaching.
Three things define a cult.
1. They have a “ prophet”
2. They have another source of authority besides the Bible I.e. another gospel
3. They believe that only they will go to heaven and that only if they obey its laws.
They also believe in isolation and censurship! Will not listen to comman sense!
Well all types of Christian religions were either created by someone or a group of people.
Interesting
@@starwillows2836 - This is true but remember what Jesus Himself said in Matthew 24:24, "For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect." In Matthew 7:15-20 Jesus said, “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.
19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them." The Apostle Paul warned in Acts 20:27-30, " For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the whole will of God. 28 Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God,[a] which he bought with his own blood.[b] 29 I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. 30 Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. 31 So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears." Jesus, the apostles & the prophets of the Old Testament declared that the Scriptures came from God not from men - see 100 verses showing the scripture is from God at www.openbible.info/topics/word_of_god (see also our video called "Both Fake Christians & Pagans Deny the Bible & Jesus Alike Since Jesus Said Holy Scripture is True" at th-cam.com/video/A0B9B2Mcb6M/w-d-xo.html). Thus the Bible scriptures are from God but false prophets distort & pervert the word of God creating cults & false religions.
@Maryanne Tuakana Teariki - Your statement may sound good to you but from the Bible perspective your statement is as false as can be - 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12, "9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." The Bible tells us to expose error (Ephesians 5:11, "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them."). And to expose error we must make righteous judgments. Christians must judge in order to: 1. Try the spirits to see if they are from God, for many false prophets are in the world. (1 John 4:1). 2. Mark & avoid false teachers, slaves of their own bellies, deceiving many with their smooth & flattering speech (Romans 16:17-18). 3. Rebuke false teachers, rebellious men, & deceivers who subvert whole families with their false doctrine. (Titus 1:9-16) 4. Have no fellowship with immoral, impure, or covetous men. (Ephesians 5:5-7) 5. Receive not deceivers who do not abide in the teaching of Christ into our homes, nor giving them any greeting. (2 John 7-11) 6. Be wary of those who preach another gospel. (2 Corinthians 11:4, Galatians 1:6-9) Even David, who feared touching one of God's anointed, did not hesitate to judge & expose Saul's sin before the world. "Out of the wicked comes forth wickedness." (1 Samuel 24:10, 12-13) Thus, shouldn't true Christians, following the Biblical standards laid down, judge & expose the sins of false teachers, prophets & immoral brothers in the church; all those who would pollute the truth with perverted doctrines or watered-down teachings which tickle the ear?
"Bible Says Most Will Go to Eternal Damnation But a Few Will Receive God's Grace & Go To Eternal Joy" at th-cam.com/video/tlLkoB7yIhU/w-d-xo.html .
2 Timothy 4:2-5, "preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with [a]great patience and instruction. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, 4 and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths. 5 But you, be sober in all things, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.". Our ministry, Christian Answers of Austin, Texas / Christian Debater, has attempted to do just that in order to protect the sheep of God from the many ravenous wolves that exist at every turn. TH-cam Channel : th-cam.com/users/CAnswersTV. “Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.” -Luke 13:23-24 Do you understand the question in the above Scripture? “Lord, are there few that be saved?” Someone came to Jesus and wanted to know if “few” people were saved. It's interesting that the person didn't ask if “many” people were saved. Evidently the person had been listening to Jesus' preaching and became convinced that few people were really saved. When the Bible speaks of being “saved,” it means saved from God's wrath upon Christ-rejecting sinners in Hell (for more on hell see our playlist "Dealing with Hell, Lake of Fire, Unpopular Bible Doctrines" with 30 videos at th-cam.com/play/PLE04A1D0DFE95B95E.html & "Eternal Punishment, Part 1" at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=12607145320 & "Eternal Punishment, Part 2" at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=12607143539). Romans 5:9, “Much more then, being now justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him.”
All Christ-rejecters go to Hell if they die in their sins. If a person is “saved,” then they are going to Heaven when they die. Romans 10:13, “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” We are saved from the eternal consequences of sin, which is punishment in hellfire. To be saved is synonymous with being “born again.” When a person becomes a born-again child of God, they are saved eternally. EVERY human being MUST to be saved (i.e., born again) to enter into Heaven. John 3:3, “Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” If a person dies in their sins without believing on Jesus as the Savior, the Son of God, they will burn in Hell forever (Revelation 20:11-15).Just as the disciple who asked Jesus the question in Luke 13:23, I myself often wonder how few are truly born again believers. I dare say not many. Let's consider the question again...“Lord, are there few that be saved?” There are over one billion Catholics in the world who errantly believe that the Catholic Church is going to save them. Roman Catholics do not trust Jesus Christ alone; but rather, rely upon manmade traditions and self-righteous works to save them. According to the Word of God, genuine Catholics are hellbound in their sins because they are trusting in self-righteousness (Romans 3:20; 10:3-4; Ephesians 2:8-9; Titus 3:5, see our playlist "Dealing with Roman Catholicism, Idolatry & the Virgin Mary" with 129 videos & counting at th-cam.com/play/PLFFA8D69D1B914715.html). There are over one billion Islamic Muslims in the world who deny that Jesus Christ ever died upon a cross for our sins (see our playlist "Dealing with Islam, Muslims: Sunni, Shi'ite, Alawites, Sufis" with 67 videos at th-cam.com/play/PL1C7F68B548009FDD.html). According to the Bible, they are antichrists and liars on their way to Hell (1st John 2:22-23).
There are over 183,000 cults in Japan alone that deny Jesus Christ as the only Savior of the world. Other false religions include Scientology, Hinduism, Wicca, Buddhism, Seventh Day Adventism, Zoroastrianism, Greek Orthodox, Judaism, Jehovah Witness, Mormonism, Freemasonry, and many more (see our TH-cam channel CAnswersTV at th-cam.com/users/CAnswersTV with over 615 videos covering most of these anti Christian religions in detail). Why do I call them “false religions”? It's simply because they all corrupt the Biblical teaching of salvation, i.e., the gospel (see our playlist "Dealing with Anti Trinitarians (UPC) & Early Church History" with 48 videos at th-cam.com/play/PL9931642C7C8FFEAB.html). Most false religions ADD works to faith. Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses DENY the deity of Jesus Christ (i.e., that He is Almighty God) - see our playlists "Dealing with Mormonism, the Religion of Mitt Romney & Utah" with 20 videos at th-cam.com/play/PL11CD0EE613306BB5.html & "Dealing with Jehovah's Witnesses, Watchtower Society" with 22 videos at th-cam.com/play/PLCF0ADB29C0EB8C40.html. Seventh Day Adventists falsely and deceitfully redefine faith to mean works (see our playlist, "Dealing with Seventh-day Adventism & Their "Prophetess" with 23 videos at th-cam.com/play/PL5316CC6F66F24283.html). There are hundreds of millions of followers of Hinduism who deny Jesus as the Savior, the Son of God (see our playlist "Dealing with Anti Christ Cults, "New Age" & World Religions" with 42 videos at th-cam.com/play/PL69A3047B3497590A.html). Judaism denies that Jesus is the Messiah. The same Pharisaical Jews who crucified Jesus 2,000 years ago are crucifying Him today. /watch?v=veCdGzYsc70. See also our video "Strive To Enter - But Many Will Not Be Able To - Greg Van Court - Dayspring Fellowship, Austin, TX" at th-cam.com/video/qr2Rn-7o4RA/w-d-xo.html. 2 Timothy 2:15, "Study to show yourself approved unto God, a workman that needs not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." 2 Corinthians 13:5, "Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?"
Ok, I got all that, but what about the Sabbath? It's the 4th commandment.
Naila D'Huart - See EX SDA pastor Dale Ratzlaff's video called "Is Sabbath Keeping Essential to Be a Real Christian? Former SDA Pastor Answers This Question" at th-cam.com/video/w0L3rSSL_H8/w-d-xo.html. The description text for this video reads: A free written transcript is available of this message at media-cloud.sermonaudio.com/text/315171037.pdf. Free written transcripts of this message are available in 20 languages at www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?m=t&s=315171037. See our playlist, "Dealing with Seventh-day Adventism & Their "Prophetess"" with 44 videos at th-cam.com/play/PL5316CC6F66F24283.html. Please examine the following important websites: www.lifeassuranceministries.com, www.lifeassuranceministries.org, www.FormerAdventist.com, & www.TruthorFables.com. Email: proclamation@gmail.com for free materials.
Larry Wessels, director of Christian Answers of Austin, Texas/ Christian Debater (TH-cam Channel CANSWERSTV at th-cam.com/users/CAnswersTVfeatured; websites: www.BibleQuery.org, www.HistoryCart.com, & www.MuslimHope.com, email: cdebater@aol.com) is joined in studio by former Seventh Day Adventist pastor Dale Ratzlaff (email: dale@ratzlaf.com) who relates his personal testimony of why he left the Seventh Day Adventist religion & why Ellen G. White is a false prophet.
Dale Ratzlaff is author of Sabbath in Christ, The Cultic Doctrine of Seventh-day Adventists, etc. Dale was an Adventist pastor for 13 years, seven of which he spent teaching Bible at Monterey Bay Academy , La Selva Beach, California. During his doctoral studies at Andrews University in the 1980’s, Dale became convinced that the 1844 investigative judgment could not be supported by Scripture. Since he could no longer teach this doctrine, he and his wife Carolyn left the Adventist denomination.
There is no command to keep the Sabbath in the N.T. All the meetings in the book of Acts are in a Jewish setting. There is no instruction on how to keep the Sabbath in letters written to young Gentile churches. Sabbath breaking is never listed in any lists of NT sins. When the Sabbath in mentioned in the epistles, it is either in a negative or unimportant context. The O.T. prophets confront the gentile nations for worshiping idols, blaspheming the name of God, ruthless killing, injustice and immorality, but never for breaking the Sabbath. The Jews considered the Sabbath to be a ritual law. The Jews insisted that a Gentile staying with a Jew was to keep the Sabbath. However, if the Gentile kept the Sabbath on his own he was to be put to death. Jesus, according to John 5 broke the Sabbath and from his defense of his other Sabbath incidents it seems clear that He understood the Sabbath to be a ritual law. The entrance sign to the Old Covenant was circumcision. The continuing sign the Old Covenant was Sabbath. “Remember the Sabbath” The entrance sign to the New Covenant is baptism The continuing sign in the New Covenant is the Lord’s Supper. “Do this in remembrance of Me”
In the early chapters of the book of Acts, the first Christians were predominantly Jews. When Gentiles began to receive the gift of salvation through Jesus Christ, the Jewish Christians had a dilemma. What aspects of the Mosaic Law and Jewish tradition should Gentile Christians be instructed to obey? The apostles met and discussed the issue in the Jerusalem council (Acts 15). The decision was, “It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood” (Acts 15:19-20). Sabbath-keeping was not one of the commands the apostles felt was necessary to force on Gentile believers. It is inconceivable that the apostles would neglect to include Sabbath-keeping if it was God’s command for Christians to observe the Sabbath day.
A common error in the Sabbath-keeping debate is the concept that the Sabbath was the day of worship. Groups such as the Seventh Day Adventists hold that God requires the church service to be held on Saturday, the Sabbath day. That is not what the Sabbath command was. The Sabbath command was to do no work on the Sabbath day (Exodus 20:8-11). Nowhere in Scripture is the Sabbath day commanded to be the day of worship. Yes, Jews in Old Testament, New Testament, and modern times use Saturday as the day of worship, but that is not the essence of the Sabbath command. In the book of Acts, whenever a meeting is said to be on the Sabbath, it is a meeting of Jews and/or Gentile converts to Judaism, not Christians.
When did the early Christians meet? Acts 2:46-47 gives us the answer, “Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.” If there was a day that Christians met regularly, it was the first day of the week (our Sunday), not the Sabbath day (our Saturday) (Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2).
Know what?? Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath day😇
Naila D'Huart well it is not literally the seventh day saying Saturday, because back then they didn’t have the same weeks Monday - Saturday it’s is all based off of the planets so how would it be Saturday if Saturday is names after Saturn.
Now, god is not going to disqualify you because you keep sabath on a Saturday. If you have been born again that's what matter. Just leave the sda as fast as you can.
Thanks for your commentary on the Adventist portion of Seventh Day Adventism. What I'd like to know is why did they add the term Seventh Day and is their any truth to their reason for doing so?
Patricia Small - Because Ellen G. White had a vision about the "seventh-day" (the Sabbath), keeping the fourth commandment as vitally important to salvation. Seventh-day Adventists teach the following about the Ellen White: 1. Ellen G. White plays a central role in the SDA Church. One of the "27 Fundamental Beliefs" of the SDA Church is that Ellen White manifested the gift of prophecy and her writings are "authoritative" for the Adventist Church: "18. The Gift of Prophecy: One of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is prophecy. This gift is an identifying mark of the remnant church and was manifested in the ministry of Ellen. G. White. As the Lord's messenger, her writings are a continuing and authoritative source of truth which provide for the church comfort, guidance, instruction, and correction. They also make clear that the Bible is the standard by which all teaching and experience must be tested. (Joel 2:28, 29; Acts 2:14-21; Heb. 1:1-3; Rev. 12:17; 19:10.)"
Adventists have two "inspired" sources of truth: The Bible and the writings of Ellen G. White, which they refer to as the Spirit of Prophecy. Adventists say that the Bible is their primary source of guidance. It is called the "greater light". As recently as 2005, the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists reaffirmed in a statement entitled "Resolution on the Spirit of Prophecy" that Mrs. White's writings contain "divine counsel" and are a source of "guidance, instruction, correction" for the Seventh-day Adventist Church. Mrs. White's writings, although much more voluminous than the Bible writings, are referred to as the "lesser light".
2. Revelation 12:17 provides two identifying marks of the true remnant church in the last days:
They keep the "Commandments of God", including the fourth commandment to keep the Sabbath holy.
They have the "faith of Jesus" which Revelation 19:10 identifies as the "Spirit of Prophecy".
The Spirit of Prophecy was manifested in the life and writings of Ellen G. White. Therefore, the SDA Church is the only church that has the identifying marks of the remnant church of Revelation.
"The Bible assures us that the gift of prophecy will be active in the last days of this earth's history. It says the church will possess all the spiritual gifts, including the "testimony of Jesus," which is the "spirit of prophecy," or the gift of prophecy (1 Cor. 1:4-47; Rev. 12:17; 19:10)
"Seventh-day Adventists believe that the gift of prophecy was manifested in the life and work of Ellen G. White, one of the early leaders of the church."2
Baptisimal candidates in the SDA Church must pledge allegiance to the belief that the "gift of prophecy" is an identifying mark of the remnant church:
"I accept the Biblical teaching of spiritual gifts, and believe that the gift of prophecy is one of the identifying marks of the remnant church. ... I accept that the Seventh-day Adventist Church is the remnant church of Bible prophecy."3
3. According to Adventist leaders, the writings of Ellen G. White are "inspired" by the Holy Spirit in the same way as the Biblical authors were inspired.
ADVENTIST REVIEW: "As Samuel was a prophet to Israel in his day, as Jeremiah was a prophet to Israel in the day of captivity, as John the Baptist came as a special messenger of the Lord to prepare the way of Christ's appearing, so we believe that Mrs. White was a prophet to the church of Christ today. And the same as the messages of the prophets were received in old days, so her messages should be received at present times."4
RON GRAYBILL (Associate Secretary of the Ellen G. White Estate): "The quality of inspiration of Ellen White is equal to that of the Bible writers..."5
KENNETH WOOD (Editor of Review): "Ellen G. White was inspired in the same sense as were the Bible prophets."6
DON NEUFELD (Associate editor of Review): "She was inspired by God as were the Biblical writers..."7
ROBERT OLSON (Secretary of the Ellen G. White Estate): "I believe that both Ellen G. White and the Apostle Paul were true prophets who wrote under the influence of the Holy Spirit. My reason for believing in the inspiration of one is identical with my reason for believing in the inspiration of the other."8
MINISTRY MAGAZINE: "We believe the revelation and inspiration of both the Bible and Ellen White's writings to be of equal quality. The superintendence of the Holy Spirit was just as careful and thorough in one case as in the other."9
Mrs. White referred to her own writings as the "Spirit of Prophecy" and taught that they were inspired:
"The Holy Ghost is the Author of the Scriptures and of the Spirit of Prophecy."10
1. Having two sources of inspiration has proven to be a great challenge for the Seventh-day Adventist Church. While it is claimed that Mrs. White's writings bring unity to the church, quite the opposite is true. There has been an endless debate within the SDA Church about just how inspired Ellen White's writings are. Some claim the quality of inspiration is the same as for the Bible, while others take the opposite view that her writings are uninspired. In between the two extremes there are plenty of differing viewpoints, even among church leaders, so much so that it becomes confusing to understand exactly how inspired Mrs. White's writings are. There are continual battles over which of her teachings should be obeyed, and which of her testimonies it is safe to ignore.
More difficulties arise because some of Mrs. White's statements contradict the Bible, contradict known science, and even contradict eachother. Wars are constantly raging behind the scenes regarding these statements, and many people have left the church because these contradictions could not be resolved in a meaningful way.
2. Seventh-day Adventists use Rev. 12:17 and 19:10 to identify their church as the "remnant". They claim that one of the identifying marks of the remnant church is obedience to the Ten Commandments, including the fourth commandment. (see discussion on the "commandments of God" in study 8) This restriction would remove the majority of Christian churches from being identified as the remnant. However, there are still over 300 Christian denominations and groups that keep the seventh day Sabbath. So, the second "identifying mark" in Rev. 12:17 is the "faith of Jesus", which Adventists say is interpretted in Rev. 19:10 as the "spirit of prophecy". Adventists claim they are unique in being the only Sabbath-keeping group with a prophet, although other Sabbath-keeping groups, such as the Shepherd's Rod and the Branch Davidians also claim to have prophets.
The entire Adventist theology of identifying themselves as the "remnant church" is built upon a literal English translation of Greek words in Revelation 19:10 "the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy." Adventists would have us read this, "the testimony of Jesus is Ellen White's writings". While Mrs. White's writings do, in some instances, testify of Jesus, so do the writings of many other Christian authors. Adventists say that what sets Mrs. White's writings apart from all others is that her writings carry the inspiration of a prophet. They claim she received her message from visions and dreams. However, Adventists have difficulty pointing to any "new light" in her writings that was not already known, preached, and taught by those around her. Furthermore, they admit that large parts of her writings were actually plagiarized or copied from other Christian authors.
In reality, the "Spirit of Prophecy" in Revelation 19:10 is referring to the prophetic spirit manifested by the Apostles and recorded in the New Testament. While the KJV captures the literal translation of Revelation 19:10, modern translations do a much better job of capturing the essence of the point being made in the verse. Notice how the passage is emphasizing Jesus and His relationship to prophecy:
For the essence of prophecy is to give a clear witness for Jesus. (New Living Translation)
For the substance (essence) of the truth revealed by Jesus is the spirit of all prophecy [the vital breath, the inspiration of all inspired preaching and interpretation of the divine will and purpose, including both mine and yours]. (Amplified Bible)
The message about Jesus is the spirit that gives all prophecy. (New Century Version)
For those who speak for Jesus are led in what to say as the early preachers were led. (New Life Version)
What Jesus taught is the very heart of prophecy. (NIV, Reader's Version)
Those who tell about Jesus have the spirit of a prophet. (Worldwide English)
Everyone who tells about Jesus does it by the power of the Spirit. (Contemporary English Version)
The name Seventh-day Adventist carries the true features of our faith in front, and will convict the inquiring mind. Like an arrow from the Lord’s quiver, it will wound the transgressors of God’s law, and will lead to repentance toward God and faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.
--Ellen G White, Testimonies for the church, Our Denominational Name
Dre Zee question to you WHAT DID JESUS CHRIST GAVE HIS LIFE FOR AND FOR WHOM. DID ELLEN WHITE DIED FOR YOU. PLEASE elaborate you all are on the path of destruction. Get out while you.
Kindly give me a few of the EGW failed prophecies
Ezra Kaimenyi - "When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously; thou shalt not be afraid of him. (Deut. 18:22)" Here's a few of EGW's failed prophecies: Failure #1: Jesus will return in June, 1845.
Lucinda Burdick and Ellen Harmon [White] were close friends during the mid-1840s. Mrs. Burdick, the wife of a pastor, had many opportunities to hear Mrs. White's prophecies. The following is Mrs. Burdick's eyewitness testimony of a prophecy Mrs. White made:
"During the year 1845 I met Miss Ellen G. Harmon several times at my uncle's house in South Windham, Me. The first of these meetings was in the month of May, when I heard her declare that God had revealed to her that Jesus Christ would return to this earth in June, the next month."2
Ellen Harmon said "God revealed to her" that Jesus would come in June of 1845. This is a failed prophecy.
Failure #2: Jesus will return in September, 1845
Mrs. Burdick again testifies:
"During the haying season I again met her in company with James White at the same place, and heard my uncle ask her about the failure of the Lord to appear in June according to her visions. She replied that she had been told in the language of Canaan which she did not understand; but that she had since come to understand that Christ would return in September, at the second growth of grass instead of the first."2
Did Christ return in September of 1845? Obviously not.
Failure #3: Whites to be thrown in prison in 1846
Mrs. Burdick again testifies of statements made by Ellen White in 1846:
"Once, when on their way to the eastern part of Maine, she saw that they would have great trouble with the wicked, be put in prison, etc. This they told in the churches as they passed through. When they came back, they said they had a glorious time. Friends asked if they had seen any trouble with the wicked, or prisons? They replied, 'None at all.' People in all the churches soon began to get their eyes open, and came out decidedly against her visions."3
Ellen's followers understood her to be describing an imminent imprisonment that would occur on their trip to the east. That is obvious from the facts that 1) the people specifically asked the Whites about the imprisonment when they got back, and 2) when they found out there was no imprisonment, they came out decidedly against her visions. This failed prophecy was enough to convince the people in the Maine churches she was a false prophet, and it should be enough to convince us today!
We could stop here, knowing that according to Deut. 18:22, we have nothing to fear from this prophet. She has proven to be wrong, thus indicating she does not speak for God. But let us be careful. The Bible warns us not to accept anything on the voice of just one eyewitness. Can Mrs. Burdick's story be corroborated in any way? The answer is, yes. Mrs. White made several statements about the imminent return of Christ in the 1840s and 1850s which corroborate Mrs. Burdick's statements. It appears that in the early days of her career Mrs. White had a bad habit of predicting the return of Christ. Below is the supporting evidence from Sister White's own writings.
Failure #4: The "great pestilence" that never came
In 1849, Mrs. White penned these terrifying words:
"What we have seen and heard of the pestilence [of 1849], is but the beginning of what we shall see and hear. Soon the dead and dying will be all around us."5
The "pestilence" was a cholera epidemic that struck nations throughout the world in 1849, resulting in the death of over 37,000 Americans.6 Because of improvements in sanitation, this outbreak of cholera was milder than the 1832 outbreak which killed over 100,000 Americans. Many Christians regarded both outbreaks as judgments from God. There have been many worse epidemics since then. For example, the typhoid fever epidemic of 1861-65 killed 80,000 in the United States.7 The Spanish Flu of 1918 killed about 675,000 in the United States.8 The 1849 epidemic was not the "beginning of sorrows" or the last days as predicted by Jesus (Matt. 24:7-8). Rather, it was a relatively minor epidemic in a long list of epidemics that have plagued the world since the fall of man. Not long after this prophecy was penned the epidemic subsided and the United States entered a period of peace and prosperity that lasted over a decade. She said "soon the dead and dying will be all around us." What does soon mean? It has been over 175 years! Furthermore, she said the dead would be around "us," indicating her belief it would happen within her lifetime. Another prophetic failure.
Failure #5: Jesus to come in "months"
In 1850, Sister White writes out what her angel told her:
"My accompanying angel said, 'Time is almost finished. Get ready, get ready, get ready.' . . . now time is almost finished. . . and what we have been years learning, they will have to learn in a few months."9
The context of this statement is undeniable. New converts will have to learn SDA doctrines in a "few months" because "now time is almost finished." The reduction in learning time is not because new converts are smarter than the older ones, nor is it because the Adventists developed an accelerated learning course. The context clearly states the reason they will have to learn quickly: "time is almost finished."
What is a reasonable definition of the phrase "a few months?" Three? Five? Webster's Dictionary says a few is "amounting to only a small number." If your friend called you up and said, "I'll be coming out to visit in a few months," when would you expect him? Three or four months, perhaps six at the most? It has now been 2076 months since Mrs. White said only a "few months" remained! She was certainly saying there were not "years" or "decades" left, because she said the doctrines earlier converts had learned in "years," recent converts would have to learn in "months."
Failure #6: Some at 1856 conference to see Jesus return
Mrs. White made this statement at a church conference in 1856, and it received notoriety because it was published in her "Testimonies to the Church" and many church members read it:
"I was shown the company present at the Conference. Said the angel: 'Some food for worms, some subjects of the seven last plagues, some will be alive and remain upon the earth to be translated at the coming of Jesus.'"10
Everyone at this conference passed away generations ago. Not a single one was "alive" and "upon the earth to be translated at the coming of Jesus." After this prophecy utterly failed the sect's leaders were in quandary as to what to do with this statement. They finally decided to declare this to be a "conditional prophecy" even though there were no conditions stated or implied in the prophecy!
Learn more about conditional prophecy, click here.
Failure #7: Earth to be depopulated soon
Mrs. White continued her unbroken string of failed predictions in 1864:
"The human family was presented before me, enfeebled. Every generation has been growing weaker, and disease of every form visits the human race.... Satan's power upon the human family increases. If the Lord should not soon come and destroy his power, the earth would soon be depopulated."11
In 1864, Mrs. White said the earth would "soon" be depopulated. Did that happen soon after 1864? At that time there were approximately 1.29 billion people on earth. By 1900, the earth's population had soared to 1.65 billion people.12 Today there are around 8 billion. By 2050, there may be 25 billion people on the planet. Because of better nutrition, advances in medicine, and improved living conditions, each generation is living longer, healthier, stronger, and taller. Diseases which once ravaged mankind have been eliminated or rendered harmless by powerful medications. Sadly, all that Mrs. White could foresee in the future was darkness, disease, and death. Had she truly had divine foresight she would never have made this false prophecy.
For more go to www.nonsda.org/egw/egw35.shtml & www.truthorfables.com/menu/subjectsa-1e.html .
Footnotes to references above:
2. Lucinda Burdick, notarized letter, published in Limboline. Can you trust Lucinda Burdick? Click here.
3. Ibid.
4. Ibid.
5. Ellen White, Present Truth, Sept. 1849.
6. Donald A. Hustlar, "'God's Scourge': The Cholera Years in Ohio," Ohio History Journal, Vol. 105/Summer-Autumn 1996, p. 181, resources.ohiohistory.org/ohj/browse/displaypages.php?display[]=0105&display[]=174&display[]=191.
7. Wikipedia.
8. "1918 Pandemic (H1N1 virus)," www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-pandemic-h1n1.html.
9. Ellen White, Early Writings, pp. 64-67.
10. Ellen White, Testimonies, Vol. 1, p. 131.
11. Testimony #8, p. 94, in Spiritual Gifts III-IV.
12. www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/07/populations-around-world-changed-over-the-years, chart #2.
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Matthew 7:15, "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravening wolves."
she was more like psychic, not sounding anything like prophets of the Bible. she preached against eating meat. show me where in Bible God says meat is bad...sound like todays Mystery Babylon propaganda.
how about this one 1 Timothy 4:1-3 Now the spirit speaketh expressly ,that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with hot iron; forbidding to marry, and COMMANDING TO ABSTEIN FROM MEATS, which God hath created with Thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth
They sound like sheep followi g blin dly
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. (45) And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
Someone contacted us saying "Please remove me from your list. I didn’t know you are teaching that the Sabbath is done away with. I am not and never have been Seventh Day Adventist for the reasons you gave but as a Bible believing Christian why is Sunday so much better than the Sabbath? Because Constantine made it so and the majority of people follow that? My husband and I have been so blessed by keeping the sabbath in our home . Many more blessings I can assure you than just worshiping on Sunday morning." Our response, "Your request will be honored. The Bible says you can worship & fellowship on any day that you wish & you are not condemned so if you like Saturdays then so be it (Romans 14:5, "One person values one day over another, another values every day the same. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind.") while the early Christian church met for worship on the first day of the week which would be Sunday (Acts 20:7; 1 Cor. 16:2; Rev. 1:10 ) But Scripture doesn’t use the word Sunday, a name associated with sun worship (12-14). Instead, the early church spoke of Sunday as the first day of the week, or the first day from the Sabbath. I'm glad to hear you are not a Seventh-day Adventist. They make keeping the Sabbath as an essential condition of salvation but of course they completely fail in their attempts to keep the Sabbath holy & here's why :
HOW TO KEEP THE SABBATH - What Is required in keeping the Sabbath according to Mosaic Law: -
1. No work done at all (Ex. 20: 10; Lev. 23: 3; Jer. 17:21-22). No watering the lawn, no working in the yard, no hobbies, no surfing, no fixing flat tires, etc. By law if a person did not stop all types of activity in honor of the Sabbath, he was breaking the law. In Numbers 15:32-36 a man was caught collecting sticks on the Sabbath, and he received a rock concert from the people he knew.
2 No kindling of a fire (Ex. 35:3). No fellowship cookouts or barbecues. You can't go into a restaurant and get a hamburger that's been flame broiled, you can't cook eggs, or pancakes in the morning because you'd be kindling a fire for cooking. To drive a car would be to "kindle a fire" In the combustion chamber of your engine.
3. No traveling (Ex. 16:29). Later the Jews added to this law, allowing only a half mile of travel on the Sabbath which we see observed in the NT. But the pure law says "stay at home." Actually, If you kept this part of the law, you could not travel to your church gathering unless it was less than one-quarter mile away from home. If you had an emergency you could not drive to the hospital.
4. No trading (Amos 8:5). If you happened to need gas to get to church service, you could not "trade" money for gasoline. You would not be allowed to buy a cassette tape of that morning's message or a book at the store. There is to be No exchanging of money for goods. If you worked with stocks and you needed to sell you couldn’t.
5. No marketing (Neh. 10:31; 13:15,19). Make sure you do no shopping whatsoever. You can't buy any ice cream for dessert after dinner or anything else. If you run out of food or drink at home you can’t go out to purchase any, you can’t even by a stick of gum.
6."... a holy assembly with double the daily offering along with the other offerings. In other words, you are to give twice as much on the Sabbath (Num. 28:9).Do we practiced this today In compliance with Old Testament law. Do Sabbatarian's really practice the law? I have yet to see people go to Shabbat and give twice as much each week.
7. New showbread In the holy place (Lev. 24:8). Of course this cannot be done today since there is no temple, so this part of the Sabbath cannot be followed by the church. The fact Is the Sabbath was not made for the gentiles, but for the Jews and their generations (Ex. 31:12-17). It's a law given between God and the Jews.
8.The last part of the requirements for keeping the Sabbath day law Is the penalty for breaking It. DEATH! (Numbers 15:32-36)
Seventh-day Adventists do not keep the Sabbath the way the Old Testament says to keep the Sabbath thus they are wasting their time & are nothing more than deluded hypocrites. Titus 1:15-16, "15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled. 16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate."
Keeping the Sabbath if You Live in Alaska is a Big Problem -This shows that the Sabbath was a regional, temporary command for Israel and not for the world. Interesting problem in Alaska. According to the officious SDA sunset calculator, on Friday eve, May 30th, in Prudhoe Bay, Alaska, the sun set below the horizon, bringing with it the Jewish Shabbat, at 11:38 PM, almost midnight. Note: AK is so far west, it is on Hawaiian time. Here is the quote:
Calculations for:
Longitude: -148.34000
Latitude: 70.27000 Prudhoe Bay, Alaska
Time Zone: Hawaiian Standard Time, HST
Date: 5/30/03 Friday
Sunrise: 0:07am HST (sunrise Friday morning)
Sunset: 11:38pm HST (sunset, Friday night, becoming sabbath)
Next, we find sunrise on Sabbath, May 31st, actually starts before midnight Friday night and el sol invictus stays up all day Sabbath, and into Sabbath night, and into Sunday morning, and into Sunday night, for the next two months!
Date: 5/31/03
Sunrise: Sun above horizon HST
Sunset: Sun above horizon HST (meaning the sun never sets). Meaning: if you live and work in Prudhoe Bay, Alaska, extracting dino remains buried and liquified by Noah's flood less than 4500 years ago, you have a problem! (no!! dummy! not the recent age of the earth!)... you have to quit working!
Because on Friday night, May 30th, when the sun went down at 1l:38, bringing in the holy Lord's day, you had to stop working, thou, and thy manservant, and thy maidservant, and all the strangers within thy igloo. But the sun came up again on Sabbath just a few minutes later, but never went down after that!!!
As I scribble this nonsense it is still Sabbath in Prudhoe Bay...cause the sun never went down....no Saturday sunset. So if you believe literally that you must keep sabbath from sunset on Friday night to Sabbath sunset.....the next day, Sabbath, did NOT have a sunset this summer! Won't be a sunset for another two months! So you are faced with keeping Sabbath for two months straight, and giving up your job with Exxon! Unless of course, you are the camp padre, trying to spread the word that black gold comes from dead dinos who missed the ark, or in the medical profession raking in piles of dough and salving your conscience by paying plenty of tithe to keep the hired-archy gainfully employed.... -sent by reader; see www.truthorfables.com/Sabbath_Not_A_Law.htm .
For more see our video called "Is Sabbath Keeping Essential to Be a Real Christian? Former SDA Pastor Answers This Question" at th-cam.com/video/w0L3rSSL_H8/w-d-xo.html .
Matthew 7:15, "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."
Can you please edit this so it is more obvious where your response starts?