This narrator must be Canadian, how Southside, “with “ut” and “a boot” and “pro cess” are pronounced and referencing kilometers. The CTA is only one of the transit agencies. The South Shore and Metra trains also serve the Southside, but are more commuter rail vs 24/7 like red line of CTA.
Found them out, eh? Perhaps a much too radical plan would be to install a "Tim Horton" type of coffee and muffin machine on each METRA Electric train , along with new equipment and more frequent schedules.
I hope that more modern Stadler FLIRT or KISS trains will operate on the extended Red Line, as they already operate in Dallas, TX and San Francisco, CA and Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. Chicago deserves it.
The Cta uses bombardier built trains that run on 3rd rail voltage all cta trains run on 3rd rail power. Metra is getting the stadler trains on the Beverly hills branch
I think it would have worth mentioning the Metra commuter train lines that are also running in the area as well and have commentary on that. Anyone wants to provide on those feel free to. I assume the redline extension will still go ahead as planned. Just thought it would be worthwhile mentioning the Metra lines in the video. If you didn't know about those metra trains the video makes it seem like there's no trains at all on the south side.
A significantly less costly alternative would be to electrify extensions to EXISTING METRA (commuter) train services: new equipment and more frequent schedules.
You forget we live don't live in a perfect world. CTA is a political organization providing a rail and bus service. METRA is a rail service that depends upon politics to be able to keep providing its services. Two different organizations, two different structures, two different political patronages, two different labor hiring streams and hiring pools. To borrow a worn cliche, like comparing apples and oranges. METRA is a much cleaner, more **ahem** middle-class experience (they don't take s*it from those riders who don't conform by following the rules), whereas the CTA seems to be an extension of the rule of the streets. In short, the two systems that actually compete for their share of State, Federal and local 'home rule' taxation dollars to maintain their facilities and maintain their power is highly inefficient but this inefficiency is the paradigm that we have today. Is it even worth changing at this point might I ask? I doubt the mayor of Chicago would just give up power in the way you are imagining or implying. Keep in mind that these two systems are the result of capitalists using capitalism to provide a public service and turn a profit; they couldn't and what we have is a working compromise.
90,000 passengers a week for a subway line? That's extremely low! Many simple tramway lines in Europe have this, or more, as daily ridership... let alone subway lines that have several times that ridership every day. The tramway line I regularly ride has 4 times that ridership per day, while the subway line I transfer on to is expected to reach the million in daily ridership in the coming months. So, 90,000 passengers a week seems like merely a bus line. Chicago desperately needs a tangential or orbital line (or 2 of them) to really improve ridership and restore the usefulness of the existing radial lines. Many in Chicago drive because the existing lines force a long detour through the center and back out in the suburbs. Sure, more transit is always good, but tangential - orbital lines are urgently needed to save the system by restoring its usefulness and ridership. CTA will save itself by developing what's really needed to serve the population.
Montreal is dealing with a metro /subway extension of the Blue Line with 5 new stations that was promised since 1988 with the cost already over 6 billion cdn and they haven't even started construction yet which is supposed to done by 2030. When the city first built the subway back in the early 1960s it took abt 3 years and abt $136 millions to complete 3 and 26 stations. in 1966.
@@brucebruce7816 Chicago seems to have an antiquitated system that serves only the city itself with the Loop not the suburbs imo.. Why Chicago never had a subway?.
@@oldgordo61Chicago does have subways..? Multiple of them? This is not Chicago’s problem. Even if it didn’t, elevated rail is cheaper, more accessible, and easier to maintain, without providing worse transit. (If you were wondering, Chicago’s subways are the downtown sections of the Red and Blue lines) Chicago’s problems regarding transit are decades of shrinking funding and deferred maintenance and a system only set up for a commute-to-downtown transit paradigm that post-COVID increasingly doesn’t work. If we want to give Chicago truly world class transit it will require a couple things: Orbital lines (two examples from projects that got pretty far in governmental implementation previously are the circle line and the mid city transitway) Systematic refurbishment and repairs Preferably, automatic or semi automatic running trains to help deal with the CTA’s staffing issues (even automatic systems that still require a train operator still lead to faster headways or less trains required to operate the same level of service) Better connections between L lines and each other or Metra outside downtown (things like building a better downtown core for Metra service, better integrating Metra and CTA stations + fares, or extending the brown line to the blue line) Significant expansion of bus service, both as feeders for Metra and CTA trains and as methods of getting around in their own right, including some new lines but mostly increases in frequency, reliability, and average speed through a generally higher budget, more busses, and things like bus lanes or signal priority. Not a single one of the CTA’s problems could be solved by putting our iconic lines underground. If you were going to build tens of miles of subway in Chicago, spending that time, effort, and money on simply replacing the existing system instead of adding tens of miles of new subway lines on would be a horrendous waste. But of course if one were to spend tens of billions of dollars expanding the CTA, it would be somewhat a waste and a shunning of an icon of Chicago to not build them elevated.
2:27 / 2:47 You mixed up the stations you highlight in the video.
This narrator must be Canadian, how Southside, “with “ut” and “a boot” and “pro cess” are pronounced and referencing kilometers. The CTA is only one of the transit agencies. The South Shore and Metra trains also serve the Southside, but are more commuter rail vs 24/7 like red line of CTA.
Found them out, eh? Perhaps a much too radical plan would be to install a "Tim Horton" type of coffee and muffin machine on each METRA Electric train , along with new equipment and more frequent schedules.
It's an AI computer voice
@@truthfacts5438 with Canadian accent
@@mic1240 Indeed. You have a good ear, Mic.
I hope that more modern Stadler FLIRT or KISS trains will operate on the extended Red Line, as they already operate in Dallas, TX and San Francisco, CA and Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. Chicago deserves it.
The Cta uses bombardier built trains that run on 3rd rail voltage all cta trains run on 3rd rail power. Metra is getting the stadler trains on the Beverly hills branch
I think it would have worth mentioning the Metra commuter train lines that are also running in the area as well and have commentary on that. Anyone wants to provide on those feel free to. I assume the redline extension will still go ahead as planned. Just thought it would be worthwhile mentioning the Metra lines in the video. If you didn't know about those metra trains the video makes it seem like there's no trains at all on the south side.
A significantly less costly alternative would be to electrify extensions to EXISTING METRA (commuter) train services: new equipment and more frequent schedules.
You forget we live don't live in a perfect world. CTA is a political organization providing a rail and bus service. METRA is a rail service that depends upon politics to be able to keep providing its services. Two different organizations, two different structures, two different political patronages, two different labor hiring streams and hiring pools. To borrow a worn cliche, like comparing apples and oranges. METRA is a much cleaner, more **ahem** middle-class experience (they don't take s*it from those riders who don't conform by following the rules), whereas the CTA seems to be an extension of the rule of the streets. In short, the two systems that actually compete for their share of State, Federal and local 'home rule' taxation dollars to maintain their facilities and maintain their power is highly inefficient but this inefficiency is the paradigm that we have today. Is it even worth changing at this point might I ask? I doubt the mayor of Chicago would just give up power in the way you are imagining or implying. Keep in mind that these two systems are the result of capitalists using capitalism to provide a public service and turn a profit; they couldn't and what we have is a working compromise.
@@williammcghee863 this is honestly well said wow.
90,000 passengers a week for a subway line?
That's extremely low!
Many simple tramway lines in Europe have this, or more, as daily ridership... let alone subway lines that have several times that ridership every day.
The tramway line I regularly ride has 4 times that ridership per day, while the subway line I transfer on to is expected to reach the million in daily ridership in the coming months.
So, 90,000 passengers a week seems like merely a bus line.
Chicago desperately needs a tangential or orbital line (or 2 of them) to really improve ridership and restore the usefulness of the existing radial lines.
Many in Chicago drive because the existing lines force a long detour through the center and back out in the suburbs.
Sure, more transit is always good, but tangential - orbital lines are urgently needed to save the system by restoring its usefulness and ridership.
CTA will save itself by developing what's really needed to serve the population.
Couldn't agree more with this review!
5.3B$ for a 9Km/4stations line extension is just a scam!...
Lotta $$$ for places noone ever goes.
Montreal is dealing with a metro /subway extension of the Blue Line with 5 new stations that was promised since 1988 with the cost already over 6 billion cdn and they haven't even started construction yet which is supposed to done by 2030. When the city first built the subway back in the early 1960s it took abt 3 years and abt $136 millions to complete 3 and 26 stations. in 1966.
The outer loop proposal would have been more beneficial to the citizens of the city
@@brucebruce7816 Chicago seems to have an antiquitated system that serves only the city itself with the Loop not the suburbs imo.. Why Chicago never had a subway?.
@@oldgordo61Chicago does have subways..? Multiple of them? This is not Chicago’s problem. Even if it didn’t, elevated rail is cheaper, more accessible, and easier to maintain, without providing worse transit. (If you were wondering, Chicago’s subways are the downtown sections of the Red and Blue lines)
Chicago’s problems regarding transit are decades of shrinking funding and deferred maintenance and a system only set up for a commute-to-downtown transit paradigm that post-COVID increasingly doesn’t work. If we want to give Chicago truly world class transit it will require a couple things:
Orbital lines (two examples from projects that got pretty far in governmental implementation previously are the circle line and the mid city transitway)
Systematic refurbishment and repairs
Preferably, automatic or semi automatic running trains to help deal with the CTA’s staffing issues (even automatic systems that still require a train operator still lead to faster headways or less trains required to operate the same level of service)
Better connections between L lines and each other or Metra outside downtown (things like building a better downtown core for Metra service, better integrating Metra and CTA stations + fares, or extending the brown line to the blue line)
Significant expansion of bus service, both as feeders for Metra and CTA trains and as methods of getting around in their own right, including some new lines but mostly increases in frequency, reliability, and average speed through a generally higher budget, more busses, and things like bus lanes or signal priority.
Not a single one of the CTA’s problems could be solved by putting our iconic lines underground. If you were going to build tens of miles of subway in Chicago, spending that time, effort, and money on simply replacing the existing system instead of adding tens of miles of new subway lines on would be a horrendous waste. But of course if one were to spend tens of billions of dollars expanding the CTA, it would be somewhat a waste and a shunning of an icon of Chicago to not build them elevated.
I like the idea of this but the safety and security on trains and cleanliness for passengers is stll bad
They need a b service back with so many stations
The cost of paying criminals
kinda lying. its serviced by commuter rail. they could have used the money to improve commuter rail
Was gonna say that Metra and South Shore Line both serve the South Side
@@MrProzaq there schedules are kinda bad but nowhere near as bad as the rest of Chicago.
They have the rock and metra electric. B
Because the area is very poor