The one thing I've noticed about myself in learning photography, is that I look at things differently. I see beauty in ordinary things. My photos are better because of this.
As a reformed Gear Acquisition Syndrome addict, it seems to me that there are some very clear stages that I have experienced along my photographic journey. 1) It's all about the camera 2) It's all about the lens choice 3) It's all about the post-processing (pixel-peeping included) 4) It's all about light and shadows 5) It's all about the vision 6) It's all about the connection with the subject (living or inanimate) 7) It's all about something undefinable 8) It's magic 9) It's about all or none of the above!
To be a good photographer or a famous photographer are different things! If you dont know the right people or are not able to promote yourself, you will never be known, no matter how good your photos are! Some photographers are famous dispite their shitty pictures, only because they have an attractive personality! Great video, thank you Tony and Chelsea!
Marko Oshchipko Kai is a very good photographer actually. He is extrodanarily modest and really doesn't brag about good pictures he has. If you look he has some great work, you just have to dig deeper.
Dan Ney you are absolutely correct, I’ve seen many famous photography work that are shitty pictures and they get published because of the photographers name recognition and I realize a photograph is subjective, what may be appealing to one person may be crap to another...beauty is in the eye of the beholder...I’m sure all of us who have been shooting for years have great pictures, and it all about how as a photographer, some one sees your picture and says, hey that’s a great shot.... most of us don’t make money from photography, but can shoot just as good a a pro... it all about being in the right place at the right time..click!
If it makes you feel any better, ( On the topic of wealth) I live in a family of 8. So asking for a camera was not an option. I went out and got a job, and everything that I know, I learned from you guys.
Best video you guys have done. I am a professional commercial photographer and the toughest part of shooting has always been taking a commercial client's business and tell their story. But obviously tell their story in a creative way that markets their product or service.
This is one of the most valuable videos of photography I have seen! It almost made me want to cry. We seem to be at the crossroads of photography where we can choose the path of instant gratification or really take a step back and go down the long patient road that creates images that really say something to the generations of the future. It was so nice to see what a humbling experience it was for you guys to teach us about this and it humbles me the same. From now on, I am going to really put more effort and patience into each photograph. I have actually started this by buying my first film camera recently. It really makes you think about what you are doing before you take the picture. I just want to say thank you guys sooooo much for all that you have taught me. I've seen nearly all of your vids and have come a long way quick, since starting a couple of years ago.
Great screencast! Very informative. Plenty to think about after the screencast ended. A great photographer knows and understands the rules. A great photographer is willing to break the rules. Example: Always shoot in good light. Heck, I've seen some amazing shots taken in "bad light" of a high-noon sun. Be open, be flexible, be willing to experiment.
I think that this video made me understand why I love landscape so much! I am one of those people that understand the technical skills needed for that kind of thing, and I am one of those people willing to bein out in the morning in the cold. Living in New Hampshire for 8 years helps, and then we moved to the foothills of the Blue Ridge mountains. I don't live either of those places anymore, but that is probably what makes it so nostalgic for me.
*Tony totally nailed it about how a competent photojournalist has to be consistent.* I've seen a lot of new photographers that have taken some amazing shots and many better than me but the difference is that one out of fifty of their shots was excellent and the rest fair to poor whereas forty out fifty of mine are good enough for publication. If many of those new photographers spent three to four hours a day for six months upping their photography skills I have little doubt their photographs would be better than mine. Also a good photojournalist has to love to write. A competent photojournalist is someone that can be sent out on any story with little information and within 72 hours turn in 500 to 1k words and three good photos: one establishing, one personal and one close-up that tie into the story. Back in the day when I was working at a local daily full-time and a weekly part-time I could crank out ten to fifteen stories a week. That for years included developing and printing all my own work. One holiday, three day weekend I covered 17 events. Pressure like that makes you better. BTW back then if you missed deadline you packed-up your desk and tell your editor you were leaving because you knew that missing that daily deadline meant being fired.
Thanks for this podcast. I found the information about which of your videos are most popular insightful. It would make sense that videos about gear and technique are popular because new photographers are hungry for basic information, and more experienced photographers are often looking for ways to up their game. It is also easier to buy gear than find your own voice as a photographer. As you mentioned, one takes a couple of clicks. The other is hard and often involves a lot of trial and error. Then, once you find that voice, you need the technical skills and gear to create the images you want. Vision, technique, gear; a shortfall in any of those can leave you with less than the image you want to create. Your videos help people find gear that is worthwhile and improve their technique. But finding one's voice is a more solitary journey.
I stumbled across this video randomly. Unrelated perhaps but the two of you have such amazing chemistry together, you can feel the intensity and mutual respect between you two in the way you look and listen to each other. Hope you're still doing this series. Subbed
I'm so impressed by the level of this discussion.I'm so ashamed to say that I was thinking about Chelsea more as Tony's assistant....but God, she is so smart.Love both of you.You are so amazing together,so valuable and handsome.
Thanks for this video! It reminded me of what got me into photography years ago, before I became obsessed with gear... When I only had a film camera & no flash, but I had a knack for connecting with my subjects and drawing certain looks out of them. After dropping heaps on my Nikon & Fuji systems and getting carried-away with travel & landscape, I'm now coming full-circle and realizing that all the technology in the world will not ensure a compelling shot. Some of my best shots to date were done on a humble point-n-shoot.
Thank you so much for this video! Today, I just received my Costco Fujifilm xt100 kit! I'm pursuing my photographic journry/dreams that I closed off a long time ago. I've been listening to your videos the past couple hours as I do my daily chores at home and your videos have enlightened me and encouraged me and empowered me. I now feel more confident about the photographic world. I am thankful for you. Happy holidays!
What makes a great photographer is the same as that which makes a great person........Wisdom! Wisdom = Compassion + Creativity + Courage ! In that order. Thank you for helping me get that straight
Your best video yet. Definitely ideas to ponder. I have been a photographer for almost 50 years and actually have made a few dollars selling my work. The attribute I would add to your list for almost all of your categories is to be great, one must find joy in taking pictures. I loved film and miss developing and printing my own photos. Instant gratification is wonderful but there was something mystical about seeing an image come up in the developer and seeing the result of your labor. It went much farther than simply pressing the shutter release. Thanks for your videos. I enjoy them very much.
Tony & Chelsea. I've watched many of your videos and this one, I must say, is one of your best. I will very likely return to watch this several times. Thanks.
I know this is an old video but I have to say something about the popularity of your technical videos: you ARE the technical photography source of reference. Nobody is as impartial and objective as you guys. All the other channels are directly supported by a brand (im talkin to you Kelby) or completely fanboys (fro). Plus, you have a very deep knowledge of the technicalities, plus, You (Tony) know how to talk about that kind of stuff for your background as author. I think thats your strong point and thats why you have become my primary source of technical photography info. Besides, Image, sound and editing quality of your videos is really good. PS it doesnt hurts that Chelsea is beautiful but thats just something extra. Your content is awesome. Keep it up!
Chelsea really nailed it in regards to Fine Art photography. I've seen so many mediocre artists with academic credentials and connections that suddenly make their work relevant. I know brilliant artists who are completely self taught who can't get a show in the local barber shop due to lack of said credentials. Great show guys.
Tony & Chelsea, you did a good job on this video. I pretty much agree with your criteria for the different types of photography. It is not easy and it takes some time and thought to come up with a "prioritized" list of criteria. What really got my attention is when you said that there are many excellent photographers who's work/art never gets seen or noticed simply because they aren't connected - how true that is. Several people have asked me "Why don't you sell your photos?" To which I replied, "Because I am not a salesman or a businessman, I only enjoy doing photography!" Thank you.
Thank you I'm new to photography and I have some good gear, but there was always something missing in my photos, you guys have given me a lot to think about. I'm retired now and photography is my only hobby and need all the help I can get. Tony you and Chelsea have provided me with many tips this topic today is one of the best for a person like me. Peter
Thank you Tony and Chelsea for this fantastic video. I've been seeking direction to take my photography to the next level. This discussion really opened my eyes to some fresh ideas of producing a better image. It's really great to see you're interest in the history behind these legendary photographers and your passion to share your knowledge. You guys make a great team! I believe that creativity and story telling are the most important traits in a great image.
This is the first of your videos that I've watched, it won't be the last. I Loved it guys..! Thank you ! I've been shooting for many years, since I was 11, and I hadn't considered in so much detail the traits for specific types of photographers.
Im so great-full for you two. My wife and i just had our first baby and we bought a DSLR camera, didn't think much of it but it is really turning into something more then just taking pictures of our baby. we have learned so much watching your videos we bought the buying guide and stunning digital photography. i never had touched a DSLR before my daughter but thanks to you guys we are getting pretty good with our camera and falling deeply in love with making pictures i just wanted to thank you guys for everything you do .... also i will be joining the live broadcast tonight and submit some of our pictures we have taken im so excited for your feed back
This was very well done -- thank you. Very nice to see a segment (from anyone) that's not gear-focused. Please consider doing more such analytical pieces in the future. You both have a broad knowledge of the industry that comes through in your commentary and is extremely valuable to your viewers. Thanks!
Hi, Thanks, your book and videos has help me improve in what started as a hobby and discover a way to preserve memories not only in my head but to be able to share them. I think love to what ever you are taking a moment of is a part of it.
Just finished watching your podcast. What Traits Make a Great Photographer? Very enjoyable video, I could tell by her passion that it was a subject that Chelsea thoroughly enjoyed. The one word that I found missing was "Vision" and I mean that in all senses of the word. The ability to see with your minds eye and eliminate all the visual clutter and see the vision that others pass by. Thanks for the great discussion of a subject that has been pushed to the background nowadays with the "Focus" on gear.
Great podcast. Very interesting points. I think to be a good photographer you have to be open to continually learning. Also you have to love your subject. For example I am a bird photographer and I love spending time with my subjects. Since I have been photographing birds I have learnt so much more about them. It has truly changed my life.
I think you were exactly right, Chelsea. Technical issues are easiest for people to understand and if you want to take great photos you have to know your gear. That's one reason why reviews and strict how-to's are your most popular videos.
Thank you so much for this. I just picked up a film camera, and I am looking to slow down, compose, and work on enjoying making photographs. This was timely and perfect. Love you guys, keep up the fabulous work. Love how you've lit your skin in this podcast!
Watched this video for the first time today and have to say - this is one of your best. You are doing a great job! Really good topics and not surprising that photography is so much about equipment. I can recommend 2 really good books that have changed my thinking. On Being a Photographer - David Hurn and Bill Jay "It comes down to the choice of subject. The photographer must have intense curiosity, not just a passing visual interest, in the theme of the pictures. This curiosity leads to intense examination, reading, talking, research and many, many failed attempts over a long period of time." Letting Go of the Camera - Brooks Jensen "the importance of the exoteric photograph is the world outside you; the importance of the esoteric photograph is the world inside you and inside the subject."
Thank you guys for this podcast! It's clear you put a lot of work in this videos. There's a lot of research and great content in them. I think, for me, this are your more usefull videos. At least, at this point of my development as a photographer.
This is my favorite video from you guys in awhile. Ironically YT says it has been outwatched by pentax and Sigma lens review videos -_- On the plus side I hope the gear/setting obsession keeps your business profitable so that content like this keeps getting made.
Being an artist (painter/digital artist) I feel like I have the creative aspect down but the technical side of photography is what I lack and therefore that is why I watch more videos explaining the technical sides of photography. I feel that if I can grasp that that I can improve my photos and become a better storyteller and artist all around.
I think your techinque & gear videos help us all build a foundation that will allow our creative pursuits to grow. I have a lot of experience with dance this way. Like photography, dance has many genres. Each genre (such as ballet, flamenco, salsa, breakdancing...etc) has a huge foundation of physical skills that need to be mastered. Without that base we cannot fully explore our creative sides in that medium. The learning process that you both facilitate allows us to understand the tools we have at our disposal. Even more importantly we learn to respect how difficult it is to become proficient with those tools.
For me, if I have an idea of what I want to shoot, how I truly want the outcome to look like, the concept is one thing but learning or knowing how to capture your idea in the right way. Then the concept can be detail in everything from location, clothes, hair, makeup, footwear, the light, the sky the set dressing and so on. So: 1. Creativity gives you the idea to 2. Tell a story 3. technical knowhow to produce what is in my minds-eye and 4. what gear and how to use it. But this is for more the artistic stuff, then there is the rest of the photo styles - all then require technical and gear knowhow and so on :)
Two of my favourite photographers are the German couple Hilda and Bernd Becher. They took photos of different architectural structures often water towers, blast furnaces or other industrial structures. Their greatness was that they persisted in a very long term project of almost scientifically "collecting" pictures and creating typologies. They found beauty in unexpected places.
Four Simple Steps to Your Good Morning 1) Login to your work PC. 2) Pull up a nice, long Chelsea & Tony video 3) Plug in headphones for maximum effect 4) Enjoy.
Nice podcast guys, it really made me take a step back and start reviewing my work, so I can also up my game and find my own style. Sadly I'm not from the so privileged side of the spectrum at the moment. But it doesn't stop me from learning the technical aspect of photography to be prepared when I do find myself at the right moment to make the shot.
Very interesting broadcast, it is obviously a BIG topic indeed. Some people want to specialise but others prefer a more general view. Here in the UK the Picturesque Movement defined what was picturesque in any landscape, for example a church, a wood, a river, a workman so that today we have Areas of Outstanding Natural beauty which are documented and spared over development, industry etc. We also have the National Trust preserving and maintaining many historical houses and gardens. Combine these with the Four Seasons and a camera becomes an essential, Arboretums in Autumn anyone? I think getting a camera has taught me how to LOOK. I will now spot an unusual chimney, door knocker, window, tree or an interesting face or hair style. Some of my photographs have the it factor, others not, but it is very rewarding and encouraging when they work. As my knowledge and kit have improved so have my composition skills and I haven't even started playing around with the photos on the computer yet, other than to straighten or crop so there is much to still learn about and enjoy. I am now retired and I would say to anyone "pick a difficult hobby to fill your days", it works for me, photography, and it even helps to keep me fit, Capability Brown did not make small gardens... Thanks Tony & Chelsea and all your team, keep up the great work ;-)
I come to you guys for gear reviews n tech stuff because I trust you to get to the point, and keep it fun. I have had trouble finding youtube episods that explore the creative elements,in a way that is really compelling for me, so gear is more what i look for on youtube.
Not discussed, so I wanted to add - Macro (insect/arachnid) photographers need: 1) Patience 2) Technical proficiency (managing razor thin DOF, diffraction and focus) 3) Specialized lenses and (often DIY) lighting setups 4) Mornings/evenings with zero wind 5) A mental database of which insects appear in which areas at what time of year
nicodimus2222 haha, don't forget stinking rich or deep in dept depending on your perspective. You guys use top gear it's scary money. Good points though, keep shooting.....
I like what Pye Jirsa said about a good portrait photographer finding beauty in everyone. You don't look at a client that's too skinny or too fat or not traditionally attractive and look at their physical flaws as a downfall to your photos. You look at what makes them beautiful and bring that out in the photo.
I do believe creative thinking is a personal trait as you can't get another to see an image the way you see an image or even interpret an image. we all have it. some more so then others and thats the beauty about being creative, no right or wrong way. i also think that the more you play the more your style will shine through in your work. great topic guys.
The photographer you mentioned that shot the photo of the vulture with the starving child was Kevin Carter. He was among a group of very well known South African photographers. It is worth noting that there is a movie " The Bang Bang Club" that tells their stories. If you haven't seen it, it really is worth the time. I really love your channel, keep up the great work. Thanks guys!
Speaking of creativity and connecting with subjects, did anyone else watch the Creative Live class on Tuseday called; "Authentic Portrait with Chris Orwig". It was a pretty good class that was all about connecting with your subject to create authentic portraits. Almost no technicall stuff, just him talking with his subjects, and how he choosed the portrait he felt most genuine. It was also all done in studio so he couldn't relay on enviroment or props. I don't think the course is worth the money they ask for, but if you can catch the course Live for free, there are a lot of good stuff there.
I really appreciate this type of videos, because I mostly see tech vids only. It's not that i search for tech vids only, but you have do dig deeper for that non-tech/art/composition/lighting stuff. I would like to force each beginner in photography to watch this video. Just to be aware that it's not the tech that makes the picture :)
Two comments 1. This is one of my favorite videos from you guys. I like this a lot more than the technical, but the technical helped me a few years back when I was starting out. I think a lot of people get a lot out of the technical as you mentioned. Now the technical seems a little too elementary and redundant at my level. So for you two, the challenge is finding a way to find a nice balance of utility for photographers at different levels. As a beginner, I wasn't ready to talk about creativity until I figured out the dang camera. Also, talking theory and aesthetics leaves you open for more drama too, more arguments, just like the posts about m4/3 being dead. Yet that video saved me a lot of money, i believe, so I appreciated it. 2. I struggle with the subject of "photojournalism" and "intimacy." I actually prefer what Chelsea would call "voyeuristic" because it seems "non-invasive." Getting to know the subject for weeks or months just so that the pictures can end up in a gallery seems like exploitation and extreme privilege. I can only speak for myself, but when I am on the street, I am looking strictly for light and color. If someone walks into that light, it is a gift or a blessing and I take what the light gives me. The light and the color is primary and the subject is secondary. However, when I find myself focusing more on the subject, I start to feel more voyeuristic in a negative way. Like I try to avoid stalking after subjects. I just take what the light gives me. Also, my background is poetry, so there are oftentimes where I am on the hunt for documentation of certain themes dear to me. Two of my favorite themes are "poverty" and "humanity." Once a person is aware of the lens, sincerity is lost, don't you think? It's more honest to capture unaware, I feel. At least, that's where I'm at these days. One of my favorite photographers these days is Khalik Allah. He started out as a "voyeurist," but he changed and started to get to know his subjects. All and all, the objective was always to capture a photograph though. I understand it, but I dont know if I find that more moral than taking a photo without people noticing. However, I do not agree with telephoto street shots. Now that is super voyeuristic. I think it's best to be at 85mm max for street shots, but I often take mine at 50mm. These are my two fastest primes.
Great podcast! Very informative. I agree with the idea that for many photographers its becoming more about how many likes versus photography itself. The last photo you guys discussed would probably not get as many likes as one would think. However, it is such a great photograph! And btw, I very much enjoy your tips, reviews, and technical info. Thanks!
Your observation about Henri Cartier-Bresson and social media was insightful. Over the years my photos that I have found to be the most personally satisfying have often not correlated with getting maximum interest in social media. If your goal is to not be a professional but simply find personal satisfaction in creating your photography perhaps it is best to not get wrapped up with getting "likes" on social media. In addition, I guess we should also have the good fortune of possessing vast personal wealth to help fuel our passion.
This past school year I got inspired to do senior portraits for the first time since I had several students that I've known since elementary school, the problem was that I didn't realize how much it was going to blow up and the fact that I only really started really improving my skills (in both portrait photography and editing after doing a bit of studying and analyzing of other photographers) in March, so I literally had to smash 1-2 sessions of 13 students in 2 months and because of that, I had to resort to relying on scenery and standard poses for all of them, they all turned out great but I've always been about highlighting individual traits, qualities and personality so thankfully I'm able to have a full school year (nearly 30 already confirmed) so I'm really going to focus on what I do best and do more portraits that utilize props (i.e. one of the band kids will bust out her trumpet), more meaningful surroundings (like a stage for a singer) and clothing, it helps that many of them are the more artsy kids (most of the previous ones were more engineering so when I asked them about props, skills, talents, they weren't really sure what to do) so there's more I can easily highlight and experiment with.
Really enjoyed this !! I love taking pictures of eagles fishing....passion can make a average photographer me lol great I have spent more than 12 winters taking pictures of them.
I think in most styles/genres of photography creativity and vision are the most important. Equipment can help, technical knowledge can help, but both of these can be acquired relatively easily whilst creativity and vision have to be developed and the sense of insecurity that keeps us from expression our individual visions can greatly hamper this development. I consider myself a very good photographer and I am sure with the right exposure/networking I could be making a living out of this, but as you mentioned in your video I was not born privileged so I have a regular job that keeps me from pursuing some of those networking opportunities, and an equipment lack that keeps me form pursuing some potentially lucrative opportunities due to the required hardware to complete the assignments. And the vicious circle perpetuates itself as not having the hardware keeps me from getting the assignments, which keeps me from achieving some connections (designers, stylists, locations) which keeps the money out of my hands and unable to get the hardware to get the assignments. facebook.com/alluringexposures
Hi Chelsea, aww you looked terribly bummed out; I complete agree with you with regards to concerns on where the 'industry' is headed driven by likes and metrics and sensationalistic tendencies taking centre stage. To relate a bit - I've recently switched most of my gear over to Nikon, with my main shooter now a D810. Even though I have a couple AF lenses, the two I always carry with me, and probably shoot the most with are my manual Zeiss ZF.2 lenses. The reason I went this route is because I personally feel that shooting with quality lenses such as these there's first the 'old world' charm and the way that a manual prime just 'pulls' you into the moment. I do my best to try and slow-down and savour the moment, the scene. Looking how best to compose my shot, may be try and catch the light in a certain way. I'm basically trying to improve my skills beyond just the lump of metal, silicon, and pile of transistors slung around my neck. I'd wager that the likes of Henri Cartier and Ansel Adams didn't change their equipment much and back then they didn't have tedious things like 'firmware' updates to deal with, or failing SD cards. Even though by day (and night) I'm primarily an engineer/programmer, I have been writing with fountain pens since I was 15. My collection has grown since, but I find I enjoy and write the best with my oldest nibs and my favourite nibs. So much so that for a good while now, I've stopped adding new pieces into my collection. Anyone curious as to my FP obsession will find several videos on the subject on my channel. Within the next few months I hope to get a Nikon FE so that I can also use my existing Zeiss glass and shoot some film as well - just for candid, street, and shots when on holiday. I'm heading back towards Tangalle which is one of the most southern points in Sri Lanka, to the beach and am quite excited at the prospect of shooting this weekend. Thanks again for this excellent video. I also greatly enjoyed your video on the history of Canon (kwanon!!) and am looking forward to the next one on Nikon too. Cheers, and also thanks to Tony of course.
What sets a great photographer (or anything for that matter) apart from the rest, is a combination of ambition, drive, talent, creativity, vision and passion. These are key "ingredients" for becoming great.
Enjoyed watching the episode. I like outdoor photography, which includes a little bit of both, landscape and wildlife skills. Unfortunately, at my age, I just want to be able to understand the technical aspects and get a few great shots before passing on. Living in the Midwest, in the Wisconsin, Iowa and Illinois area, there aren't a lot of areas to get a good picture. I love history, including the wide open prairies, old historic buildings, to include churches and I have been concentrating on the Mississippi River, along with great looking farms. My grandfather was a farmer, as were most of my ancestors, so, the country life is where I am the most comfortable, and I take every opportunity to leave the city to see what I can find. Sadly, the family farms are mostly gone, replaced by Corporate farming, which means, no livestock, only corn or soy beans. Oftentimes, I scout an area beforehand to find what roads I need to take to get in closer to the subject if needed, or to find where it looks good with the sunrise. Looking to go the Amish Country to see if I can get some shots, and I know they don't like cameras, so I will be careful not to upset them. Thanks again for the videos as they are very insightful and entertaining at the same time.
One of your best videos/discussion about photography... as Chelsea was saying best photographers used their cameras as a tool to express art.- Henry Cartier -Bresson one of my favorites. I really liked this one. thanks ! By the way the name of the Documentary by Mary Ellen Mark is " Streetwise". in case someone here would like to watch it. Main character of the doc. is called Tiny, and Mark's last photo book is a recollection of "Tiny"s last 30 years... yeah... big fan.. lol.
What a great episode. I enjoyed it so much. What traits or things I lack, on top is being able to get to locations as I am in a power chair. I shoot mostly birds, but will shot anything I can. Every shot I have taken in the past 8 years has been from my chair or my car. But God has blessed me with amazing opportunities that blow my mind. A hawk sitting right by the road so I can photograph it. And the areas I have around me that I can use. The other is something you touched on is finances. I am on disability and have a family. The way I have gotten what I have is from selling stuff I got back when times where better. But then you run out of things that are worth much. In February I was able to buy the Nikon 200-500 which greatly improved my pictures. I sold a train and knife collection to do it. I am pleased with my lenses. My body is what I would like to upgrade. It is a D300 which is great, but limiting in ISO, Auto focus and buffer size. I dream of a D500. Would be so awesome. So many shots I miss I know I would get more of them with the upgrade. But I just don't have the funds. So I just keep using my D300 to the best of my ability and keep dreaming of that amazing D500. Thanks again for the great videos. I enjoy them all. You guys rock. www.flickr.com/photos/26345736@N04/
The starving child and buzzard shot was described differently in the Time magazine 100 influential photos edition. It also ignited a debate as to whether photojournalist should intervene to protect their fellow human subjects.
Awesome podcast - Really liked what you said at the end about wealth. Cost of gear is definitely a factor, even though you can take good shots with a phone these days. You need the free time to shoot lots as well and that costs as it's time away from a paying job - keep up the great work.
A wonderful subject, bravo for this one! You might almost ask what makes an artist great, and there would be no obvious answers there. What traits made Van Gogh so great today that no one had seen before in his lifetime? As for me, I now carry a camera with me almost everyday, and I just shoot and try anything. It raises my confidence and helps me learn about art, setting technique aside up to a point. I carry a "cheap" Canon ELPH 300HS that fits in my pocket nicely that takes awesome macro photos, and the results are often surprising and delightful. Even my Sony DSCHX50V turned out some very nice prints on letter sized mat paper from my camping trip, in spite of what I find are somewhat poorly detailed jpegs (it does not shoot RAW, which disappoints me a bit, unlike my beloved Alpha 65 or the Alpha 230 that did well, or my newly acquired used Nex 7). Then I often revisit my pictures and find stunning surprises that I had quickly looked at before. I just go at it and it will only grow and keep bringing nice gems to look at and share. It's almost like there's magic in the air... and it just happens that I click on the shutter button no matter what may come: nice or bust and anything in between.
This was interesting, I'm in a slightly odd position photographing holiday homes in the small cottages of Britain, it's somewhere in between real estate and design photography and as a result there are intricacies that make it quite unique. As a result, what i think makes a great photographer in the field is someone who sees what light they have, and then is able to know exactly what to add and what techniques to use to make the entire space look bright, yet welcoming and larger than it actually is. Its all about having a well practiced artistic vision, and then making it reality with well rounded and flexible technical ability. I'm not there yet!
Wow, you guys really hit home on this one! And I thought I was the only one who has these feelz lol. Chelsea really poured her heart out for good reason. Nothing is more disappointing than seeing people get rewarded for lack of effort!
THANK YOU SO MUCH CHELSEA! Thank you for what you stated at 26:39 into the podcast. I have been talking to a lot of people, some photogs and some not, about this very thing. You mention on your live shows the icons being important to catch the eye, but when you look at some of the greatest images few would get the likes/pause, in a thumbnail view. Our society seems to be loosing that pause to look, the stop and smell the roses has turned to over saturated Axe body spray to the senses. Thank you.
Very interesting podcast. How you went about getting the photo creatively such as your mention with fishing eagles elsewhere of being at the right place on their flight path, I found fascinating. I opine the techniques come more into play when moving from compacts to DSLRs with all their knobs and buttons; eg when I upgraded from the Pentax DSLR K-S2 to the K-70 I found the difference difficult to recall so gave the K-S2 to my wife, and bought a second K-70 to only need to learn one set. My wife migrated from her Sony bridge camera to the K-S2 so the advantage is sharing lenses, but we tend to use auto or scenes because despite having watched the balance of the 3 settings, we find thinking about creativity which sometimes is a fast response, having the scene settings done beforehand eg animals or indoors, makes getting the shot easier.
My fav video to date! Thanks for highlighting some great b&w's. The funniest part [21:48-] is when Chelsea talks about the TH-cam photographer Photoshoping a bird landing on a kid blowing bubbles and getting 500 likes lol! Also, Tony's follow-up is pricless "you gallery curator isn't going to be impressed by the number of likes you got".
I liked the video, thanks Chelsea and Tony for give to the people something more than reviews and numbers... however, you both always talk more than technical issues, but, the people not always understand the nuances "under surfaces" ;) nice topic with a nice and empathic couple.
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The one thing I've noticed about myself in learning photography, is that I look at things differently. I see beauty in ordinary things. My photos are better because of this.
"The greatest shot is the rarest moment" - Chelsea Northrup.
Love it. Repeat it.
As a reformed Gear Acquisition Syndrome addict, it seems to me that there are some very clear stages that I have experienced along my photographic journey.
1) It's all about the camera
2) It's all about the lens choice
3) It's all about the post-processing (pixel-peeping included)
4) It's all about light and shadows
5) It's all about the vision
6) It's all about the connection with the subject (living or inanimate)
7) It's all about something undefinable
8) It's magic
9) It's about all or none of the above!
Stephen Cotterell 3 must be at the end lol
I'm going down the list in the same order, more or less 😂 am at numbers 6-8 right now 😂
Stephen Cotterell Still at 4 😖😆
To be a good photographer or a famous photographer are different things! If you dont know the right people or are not able to promote yourself, you will never be known, no matter how good your photos are! Some photographers are famous dispite their shitty pictures, only because they have an attractive personality! Great video, thank you Tony and Chelsea!
exactly!
*cough* kai wong *cough*
Marko Oshchipko Kai is a very good photographer actually. He is extrodanarily modest and really doesn't brag about good pictures he has. If you look he has some great work, you just have to dig deeper.
Dan Ney you are absolutely correct, I’ve seen many famous photography work that are shitty pictures and they get published because of the photographers name recognition and I realize a photograph is subjective, what may be appealing to one person may be crap to another...beauty is in the eye of the beholder...I’m sure all of us who have been shooting for years have great pictures, and it all about how as a photographer, some one sees your picture and says, hey that’s a great shot.... most of us don’t make money from photography, but can shoot just as good a a pro... it all about being in the right place at the right time..click!
Marko Oshchipko Kai isn’t really a famous photographer, he is a famous gear reviewer
If it makes you feel any better, ( On the topic of wealth) I live in a family of 8. So asking for a camera was not an option. I went out and got a job, and everything that I know, I learned from you guys.
Best video you guys have done. I am a professional commercial photographer and the toughest part of shooting has always been taking a commercial client's business and tell their story. But obviously tell their story in a creative way that markets their product or service.
This is one of the most valuable videos of photography I have seen! It almost made me want to cry. We seem to be at the crossroads of photography where we can choose the path of instant gratification or really take a step back and go down the long patient road that creates images that really say something to the generations of the future. It was so nice to see what a humbling experience it was for you guys to teach us about this and it humbles me the same. From now on, I am going to really put more effort and patience into each photograph. I have actually started this by buying my first film camera recently. It really makes you think about what you are doing before you take the picture. I just want to say thank you guys sooooo much for all that you have taught me. I've seen nearly all of your vids and have come a long way quick, since starting a couple of years ago.
Wow! Understanding of beauty... “finding beauty in the uncommon”...Those words will definitely help me in becoming a better portrait photographer
Great screencast! Very informative. Plenty to think about after the screencast ended. A great photographer knows and understands the rules. A great photographer is willing to break the rules. Example: Always shoot in good light. Heck, I've seen some amazing shots taken in "bad light" of a high-noon sun. Be open, be flexible, be willing to experiment.
Loved the topic! It was good to hear from Chelsea. She is very intelligent! Love you guys!
I think that this video made me understand why I love landscape so much! I am one of those people that understand the technical skills needed for that kind of thing, and I am one of those people willing to bein out in the morning in the cold. Living in New Hampshire for 8 years helps, and then we moved to the foothills of the Blue Ridge mountains. I don't live either of those places anymore, but that is probably what makes it so nostalgic for me.
*Tony totally nailed it about how a competent photojournalist has to be consistent.* I've seen a lot of new photographers that have taken some amazing shots and many better than me but the difference is that one out of fifty of their shots was excellent and the rest fair to poor whereas forty out fifty of mine are good enough for publication. If many of those new photographers spent three to four hours a day for six months upping their photography skills I have little doubt their photographs would be better than mine.
Also a good photojournalist has to love to write. A competent photojournalist is someone that can be sent out on any story with little information and within 72 hours turn in 500 to 1k words and three good photos: one establishing, one personal and one close-up that tie into the story. Back in the day when I was working at a local daily full-time and a weekly part-time I could crank out ten to fifteen stories a week. That for years included developing and printing all my own work. One holiday, three day weekend I covered 17 events. Pressure like that makes you better. BTW back then if you missed deadline you packed-up your desk and tell your editor you were leaving because you knew that missing that daily deadline meant being fired.
Thanks for this podcast. I found the information about which of your videos are most popular insightful. It would make sense that videos about gear and technique are popular because new photographers are hungry for basic information, and more experienced photographers are often looking for ways to up their game. It is also easier to buy gear than find your own voice as a photographer. As you mentioned, one takes a couple of clicks. The other is hard and often involves a lot of trial and error. Then, once you find that voice, you need the technical skills and gear to create the images you want. Vision, technique, gear; a shortfall in any of those can leave you with less than the image you want to create. Your videos help people find gear that is worthwhile and improve their technique. But finding one's voice is a more solitary journey.
thank you guys for taking the time out to make these educational video happen. always learning something new from your channel.
I stumbled across this video randomly. Unrelated perhaps but the two of you have such amazing chemistry together, you can feel the intensity and mutual respect between you two in the way you look and listen to each other. Hope you're still doing this series. Subbed
I'm so impressed by the level of this discussion.I'm so ashamed to say that I was thinking about Chelsea more as Tony's assistant....but God, she is so smart.Love both of you.You are so amazing together,so valuable and handsome.
Thanks for this video! It reminded me of what got me into photography years ago, before I became obsessed with gear... When I only had a film camera & no flash, but I had a knack for connecting with my subjects and drawing certain looks out of them. After dropping heaps on my Nikon & Fuji systems and getting carried-away with travel & landscape, I'm now coming full-circle and realizing that all the technology in the world will not ensure a compelling shot. Some of my best shots to date were done on a humble point-n-shoot.
Thank you so much for this video! Today, I just received my Costco Fujifilm xt100 kit! I'm pursuing my photographic journry/dreams that I closed off a long time ago. I've been listening to your videos the past couple hours as I do my daily chores at home and your videos have enlightened me and encouraged me and empowered me. I now feel more confident about the photographic world. I am thankful for you. Happy holidays!
What makes a great photographer is the same as that which makes a great person........Wisdom!
Wisdom = Compassion + Creativity + Courage !
In that order.
Thank you for helping me get that straight
Your best video yet. Definitely ideas to ponder. I have been a photographer for almost 50 years and actually have made a few dollars selling my work. The attribute I would add to your list for almost all of your categories is to be great, one must find joy in taking pictures. I loved film and miss developing and printing my own photos. Instant gratification is wonderful but there was something mystical about seeing an image come up in the developer and seeing the result of your labor. It went much farther than simply pressing the shutter release. Thanks for your videos. I enjoy them very much.
Tony & Chelsea. I've watched many of your videos and this one, I must say, is one of your best. I will very likely return to watch this several times. Thanks.
I know this is an old video but I have to say something about the popularity of your technical videos: you ARE the technical photography source of reference. Nobody is as impartial and objective as you guys. All the other channels are directly supported by a brand (im talkin to you Kelby) or completely fanboys (fro). Plus, you have a very deep knowledge of the technicalities, plus, You (Tony) know how to talk about that kind of stuff for your background as author. I think thats your strong point and thats why you have become my primary source of technical photography info. Besides, Image, sound and editing quality of your videos is really good. PS it doesnt hurts that Chelsea is beautiful but thats just something extra. Your content is awesome. Keep it up!
Chelsea really nailed it in regards to Fine Art photography. I've seen so many mediocre artists with academic credentials and connections that suddenly make their work relevant. I know brilliant artists who are completely self taught who can't get a show in the local barber shop due to lack of said credentials. Great show guys.
Tony & Chelsea, you did a good job on this video. I pretty much agree with your criteria for the different types of photography. It is not easy and it takes some time and thought to come up with a "prioritized" list of criteria. What really got my attention is when you said that there are many excellent photographers who's work/art never gets seen or noticed simply because they aren't connected - how true that is. Several people have asked me "Why don't you sell your photos?" To which I replied, "Because I am not a salesman or a businessman, I only enjoy doing photography!" Thank you.
Thank you I'm new to photography and I have some good gear, but there was always something missing in my photos, you guys have given me a lot to think about. I'm retired now and photography is my only hobby and need all the help I can get. Tony you and Chelsea have provided me with many tips this topic today is one of the best for a person like me.
Peter
Thank you Tony and Chelsea for this fantastic video. I've been seeking direction to take my photography to the next level. This discussion really opened my eyes to some fresh ideas of producing a better image. It's really great to see you're interest in the history behind these legendary photographers and your passion to share your knowledge. You guys make a great team!
I believe that creativity and story telling are the most important traits in a great image.
Best photography podcast I have seen in years - glad this came up in my searches.
This is the first of your videos that I've watched, it won't be the last. I Loved it guys..! Thank you !
I've been shooting for many years, since I was 11, and I hadn't considered in so much detail the traits for specific types of photographers.
Im so great-full for you two. My wife and i just had our first baby and we bought a DSLR camera, didn't think much of it but it is really turning into something more then just taking pictures of our baby. we have learned so much watching your videos we bought the buying guide and stunning digital photography. i never had touched a DSLR before my daughter but thanks to you guys we are getting pretty good with our camera and falling deeply in love with making pictures i just wanted to thank you guys for everything you do .... also i will be joining the live broadcast tonight and submit some of our pictures we have taken im so excited for your feed back
This was very well done -- thank you. Very nice to see a segment (from anyone) that's not gear-focused. Please consider doing more such analytical pieces in the future. You both have a broad knowledge of the industry that comes through in your commentary and is extremely valuable to your viewers. Thanks!
One of the best podcast ever. Thank you for raising all these points Tony and Chelsea
I've watched probably 50 or so of your vids. This is far and above the best (imo).
Hi, Thanks, your book and videos has help me improve in what started as a hobby and discover a way to preserve memories not only in my head but to be able to share them. I think love to what ever you are taking a moment of is a part of it.
Just finished watching your podcast. What Traits Make a Great Photographer?
Very enjoyable video, I could tell by her passion that it was a subject that Chelsea thoroughly enjoyed. The one word that I found missing was "Vision" and I mean that in all senses of the word. The ability to see with your minds eye and eliminate all the visual clutter and see the vision that others pass by.
Thanks for the great discussion of a subject that has been pushed to the background nowadays with the "Focus" on gear.
Great podcast. Very interesting points. I think to be a good photographer you have to be open to continually learning. Also you have to love your subject. For example I am a bird photographer and I love spending time with my subjects. Since I have been photographing birds I have learnt so much more about them. It has truly changed my life.
36:17 minutes of pure gold. Thank you both.
I think you were exactly right, Chelsea. Technical issues are easiest for people to understand and if you want to take great photos you have to know your gear. That's one reason why reviews and strict how-to's are your most popular videos.
Thank you so much for this. I just picked up a film camera, and I am looking to slow down, compose, and work on enjoying making photographs. This was timely and perfect. Love you guys, keep up the fabulous work. Love how you've lit your skin in this podcast!
Watched this video for the first time today and have to say - this is one of your best. You are doing a great job!
Really good topics and not surprising that photography is so much about equipment.
I can recommend 2 really good books that have changed my thinking.
On Being a Photographer - David Hurn and Bill Jay
"It comes down to the choice of subject. The photographer must have intense curiosity, not just a passing visual interest, in the theme of the pictures. This curiosity leads to intense examination, reading, talking, research and many, many failed attempts over a long period of time."
Letting Go of the Camera - Brooks Jensen
"the importance of the exoteric photograph is the world outside you; the importance of the esoteric photograph is the world inside you and inside the subject."
Thank you guys for this podcast! It's clear you put a lot of work in this videos. There's a lot of research and great content in them. I think, for me, this are your more usefull videos. At least, at this point of my development as a photographer.
This is my favorite video from you guys in awhile. Ironically YT says it has been outwatched by pentax and Sigma lens review videos -_-
On the plus side I hope the gear/setting obsession keeps your business profitable so that content like this keeps getting made.
Being an artist (painter/digital artist) I feel like I have the creative aspect down but the technical side of photography is what I lack and therefore that is why I watch more videos explaining the technical sides of photography. I feel that if I can grasp that that I can improve my photos and become a better storyteller and artist all around.
I think your techinque & gear videos help us all build a foundation that will allow our creative pursuits to grow. I have a lot of experience with dance this way. Like photography, dance has many genres. Each genre (such as ballet, flamenco, salsa, breakdancing...etc) has a huge foundation of physical skills that need to be mastered. Without that base we cannot fully explore our creative sides in that medium. The learning process that you both facilitate allows us to understand the tools we have at our disposal. Even more importantly we learn to respect how difficult it is to become proficient with those tools.
For me, if I have an idea of what I want to shoot, how I truly want the outcome to look like, the concept is one thing but learning or knowing how to capture your idea in the right way. Then the concept can be detail in everything from location, clothes, hair, makeup, footwear, the light, the sky the set dressing and so on.
So: 1. Creativity gives you the idea to 2. Tell a story 3. technical knowhow to produce what is in my minds-eye and 4. what gear and how to use it.
But this is for more the artistic stuff, then there is the rest of the photo styles - all then require technical and gear knowhow and so on :)
Two of my favourite photographers are the German couple Hilda and Bernd Becher. They took photos of different architectural structures often water towers, blast furnaces or other industrial structures. Their greatness was that they persisted in a very long term project of almost scientifically "collecting" pictures and creating typologies. They found beauty in unexpected places.
great video, definitely gives you a lot to think about. I love how much you guys care about the art and the industry of photography.
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Nice podcast guys, it really made me take a step back and start reviewing my work, so I can also up my game and find my own style. Sadly I'm not from the so privileged side of the spectrum at the moment. But it doesn't stop me from learning the technical aspect of photography to be prepared when I do find myself at the right moment to make the shot.
Very nice video with lots of thought provoking ideas. The last quote was very good. Made me think a lot about what I do in the school portrait market.
Very interesting broadcast, it is obviously a BIG topic indeed. Some people want to specialise but others prefer a more general view. Here in the UK the Picturesque Movement defined what was picturesque in any landscape, for example a church, a wood, a river, a workman so that today we have Areas of Outstanding Natural beauty which are documented and spared over development, industry etc.
We also have the National Trust preserving and maintaining many historical houses and gardens. Combine these with the Four Seasons and a camera becomes an essential, Arboretums in Autumn anyone?
I think getting a camera has taught me how to LOOK. I will now spot an unusual chimney, door knocker, window, tree or an interesting face or hair style. Some of my photographs have the it factor, others not, but it is very rewarding and encouraging when they work.
As my knowledge and kit have improved so have my composition skills and I haven't even started playing around with the photos on the computer yet, other than to straighten or crop so there is much to still learn about and enjoy.
I am now retired and I would say to anyone "pick a difficult hobby to fill your days", it works for me, photography, and it even helps to keep me fit, Capability Brown did not make small gardens...
Thanks Tony & Chelsea and all your team, keep up the great work ;-)
As someone that grew up as a poor brown person, I cannot tell you how appreciated Chelsea’s point about “poverty porn” is. SO true!
I come to you guys for gear reviews n tech stuff because I trust you to get to the point, and keep it fun. I have had trouble finding youtube episods that explore the creative elements,in a way that is really compelling for me, so gear is more what i look for on youtube.
Not discussed, so I wanted to add - Macro (insect/arachnid) photographers need:
1) Patience
2) Technical proficiency (managing razor thin DOF, diffraction and focus)
3) Specialized lenses and (often DIY) lighting setups
4) Mornings/evenings with zero wind
5) A mental database of which insects appear in which areas at what time of year
nicodimus2222 haha, don't forget stinking rich or deep in dept depending on your perspective. You guys use top gear it's scary money. Good points though, keep shooting.....
I like what Pye Jirsa said about a good portrait photographer finding beauty in everyone. You don't look at a client that's too skinny or too fat or not traditionally attractive and look at their physical flaws as a downfall to your photos. You look at what makes them beautiful and bring that out in the photo.
I do believe creative thinking is a personal trait as you can't get another to see an image the way you see an image or even interpret an image. we all have it. some more so then others and thats the beauty about being creative, no right or wrong way.
i also think that the more you play the more your style will shine through in your work.
great topic guys.
The photographer you mentioned that shot the photo of the vulture with the starving child was Kevin Carter. He was among a group of very well known South African photographers. It is worth noting that there is a movie " The Bang Bang Club" that tells their stories. If you haven't seen it, it really is worth the time. I really love your channel, keep up the great work. Thanks guys!
Speaking of creativity and connecting with subjects, did anyone else watch the Creative Live class on Tuseday called; "Authentic Portrait with Chris Orwig". It was a pretty good class that was all about connecting with your subject to create authentic portraits. Almost no technicall stuff, just him talking with his subjects, and how he choosed the portrait he felt most genuine. It was also all done in studio so he couldn't relay on enviroment or props.
I don't think the course is worth the money they ask for, but if you can catch the course Live for free, there are a lot of good stuff there.
I caught it. Bought it after. So good.
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I really appreciate this type of videos, because I mostly see tech vids only. It's not that i search for tech vids only, but you have do dig deeper for that non-tech/art/composition/lighting stuff.
I would like to force each beginner in photography to watch this video. Just to be aware that it's not the tech that makes the picture :)
Photography is a self expression of your own creative vision, I love to do so many different types of photography
Two comments
1. This is one of my favorite videos from you guys. I like this a lot more than the technical, but the technical helped me a few years back when I was starting out. I think a lot of people get a lot out of the technical as you mentioned. Now the technical seems a little too elementary and redundant at my level. So for you two, the challenge is finding a way to find a nice balance of utility for photographers at different levels. As a beginner, I wasn't ready to talk about creativity until I figured out the dang camera. Also, talking theory and aesthetics leaves you open for more drama too, more arguments, just like the posts about m4/3 being dead. Yet that video saved me a lot of money, i believe, so I appreciated it.
2. I struggle with the subject of "photojournalism" and "intimacy." I actually prefer what Chelsea would call "voyeuristic" because it seems "non-invasive." Getting to know the subject for weeks or months just so that the pictures can end up in a gallery seems like exploitation and extreme privilege. I can only speak for myself, but when I am on the street, I am looking strictly for light and color. If someone walks into that light, it is a gift or a blessing and I take what the light gives me. The light and the color is primary and the subject is secondary. However, when I find myself focusing more on the subject, I start to feel more voyeuristic in a negative way. Like I try to avoid stalking after subjects. I just take what the light gives me. Also, my background is poetry, so there are oftentimes where I am on the hunt for documentation of certain themes dear to me. Two of my favorite themes are "poverty" and "humanity." Once a person is aware of the lens, sincerity is lost, don't you think? It's more honest to capture unaware, I feel. At least, that's where I'm at these days. One of my favorite photographers these days is Khalik Allah. He started out as a "voyeurist," but he changed and started to get to know his subjects. All and all, the objective was always to capture a photograph though. I understand it, but I dont know if I find that more moral than taking a photo without people noticing. However, I do not agree with telephoto street shots. Now that is super voyeuristic. I think it's best to be at 85mm max for street shots, but I often take mine at 50mm. These are my two fastest primes.
Great podcast! Very informative. I agree with the idea that for many photographers its becoming more about how many likes versus photography itself. The last photo you guys discussed would probably not get as many likes as one would think. However, it is such a great photograph! And btw, I very much enjoy your tips, reviews, and technical info. Thanks!
This was an awesome episode!!! Really got me thinking... Thank you Chelsea and Tony!!
Your observation about Henri Cartier-Bresson and social media was insightful. Over the years my photos that I have found to be the most personally satisfying have often not correlated with getting maximum interest in social media. If your goal is to not be a professional but simply find personal satisfaction in creating your photography perhaps it is best to not get wrapped up with getting "likes" on social media. In addition, I guess we should also have the good fortune of possessing vast personal wealth to help fuel our passion.
This past school year I got inspired to do senior portraits for the first time since I had several students that I've known since elementary school, the problem was that I didn't realize how much it was going to blow up and the fact that I only really started really improving my skills (in both portrait photography and editing after doing a bit of studying and analyzing of other photographers) in March, so I literally had to smash 1-2 sessions of 13 students in 2 months and because of that, I had to resort to relying on scenery and standard poses for all of them, they all turned out great but I've always been about highlighting individual traits, qualities and personality so thankfully I'm able to have a full school year (nearly 30 already confirmed) so I'm really going to focus on what I do best and do more portraits that utilize props (i.e. one of the band kids will bust out her trumpet), more meaningful surroundings (like a stage for a singer) and clothing, it helps that many of them are the more artsy kids (most of the previous ones were more engineering so when I asked them about props, skills, talents, they weren't really sure what to do) so there's more I can easily highlight and experiment with.
Chelsea, Thank you for bringing in the art over tricks...J
Great episode; it got deep. Thanks for all the tips, lessons, and inspiration. High five to the team behind the lens as well.
Really enjoyed this !! I love taking pictures of eagles fishing....passion can make a average photographer me lol great I have spent more than 12 winters taking pictures of them.
A wonderful show - thanks Tony and Chelsea :)
Fascinating -- useful for any photographer to do some soul searching.
I think in most styles/genres of photography creativity and vision are the most important. Equipment can help, technical knowledge can help, but both of these can be acquired relatively easily whilst creativity and vision have to be developed and the sense of insecurity that keeps us from expression our individual visions can greatly hamper this development. I consider myself a very good photographer and I am sure with the right exposure/networking I could be making a living out of this, but as you mentioned in your video I was not born privileged so I have a regular job that keeps me from pursuing some of those networking opportunities, and an equipment lack that keeps me form pursuing some potentially lucrative opportunities due to the required hardware to complete the assignments. And the vicious circle perpetuates itself as not having the hardware keeps me from getting the assignments, which keeps me from achieving some connections (designers, stylists, locations) which keeps the money out of my hands and unable to get the hardware to get the assignments.
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when is the next one about the history of photography coming? I really enjoy those!
Hi Chelsea, aww you looked terribly bummed out; I complete agree with you with regards to concerns on where the 'industry' is headed driven by likes and metrics and sensationalistic tendencies taking centre stage.
To relate a bit - I've recently switched most of my gear over to Nikon, with my main shooter now a D810. Even though I have a couple AF lenses, the two I always carry with me, and probably shoot the most with are my manual Zeiss ZF.2 lenses.
The reason I went this route is because I personally feel that shooting with quality lenses such as these there's first the 'old world' charm and the way that a manual prime just 'pulls' you into the moment.
I do my best to try and slow-down and savour the moment, the scene. Looking how best to compose my shot, may be try and catch the light in a certain way. I'm basically trying to improve my skills beyond just the lump of metal, silicon, and pile of transistors slung around my neck.
I'd wager that the likes of Henri Cartier and Ansel Adams didn't change their equipment much and back then they didn't have tedious things like 'firmware' updates to deal with, or failing SD cards.
Even though by day (and night) I'm primarily an engineer/programmer, I have been writing with fountain pens since I was 15. My collection has grown since, but I find I enjoy and write the best with my oldest nibs and my favourite nibs. So much so that for a good while now, I've stopped adding new pieces into my collection. Anyone curious as to my FP obsession will find several videos on the subject on my channel.
Within the next few months I hope to get a Nikon FE so that I can also use my existing Zeiss glass and shoot some film as well - just for candid, street, and shots when on holiday. I'm heading back towards Tangalle which is one of the most southern points in Sri Lanka, to the beach and am quite excited at the prospect of shooting this weekend.
Thanks again for this excellent video. I also greatly enjoyed your video on the history of Canon (kwanon!!) and am looking forward to the next one on Nikon too.
Cheers, and also thanks to Tony of course.
What sets a great photographer (or anything for that matter) apart from the rest, is a combination of ambition, drive, talent, creativity, vision and passion. These are key "ingredients" for becoming great.
Enjoyed watching the episode. I like outdoor photography, which includes a little bit of both, landscape and wildlife skills. Unfortunately, at my age, I just want to be able to understand the technical aspects and get a few great shots before passing on. Living in the Midwest, in the Wisconsin, Iowa and Illinois area, there aren't a lot of areas to get a good picture. I love history, including the wide open prairies, old historic buildings, to include churches and I have been concentrating on the Mississippi River, along with great looking farms. My grandfather was a farmer, as were most of my ancestors, so, the country life is where I am the most comfortable, and I take every opportunity to leave the city to see what I can find. Sadly, the family farms are mostly gone, replaced by Corporate farming, which means, no livestock, only corn or soy beans. Oftentimes, I scout an area beforehand to find what roads I need to take to get in closer to the subject if needed, or to find where it looks good with the sunrise. Looking to go the Amish Country to see if I can get some shots, and I know they don't like cameras, so I will be careful not to upset them. Thanks again for the videos as they are very insightful and entertaining at the same time.
The trait that I would pick is salesmanship. That's a good trait. If you can't sell your craft/service/product, you'll never survive professionally.
One of your best videos/discussion about photography... as Chelsea was saying best photographers used their cameras as a tool to express art.- Henry Cartier -Bresson one of my favorites. I really liked this one. thanks !
By the way the name of the Documentary by Mary Ellen Mark is " Streetwise". in case someone here would like to watch it.
Main character of the doc. is called Tiny, and Mark's last photo book is a recollection of "Tiny"s last 30 years... yeah... big fan.. lol.
What a great episode. I enjoyed it so much. What traits or things I lack, on top is being able to get to locations as I am in a power chair. I shoot mostly birds, but will shot anything I can. Every shot I have taken in the past 8 years has been from my chair or my car. But God has blessed me with amazing opportunities that blow my mind. A hawk sitting right by the road so I can photograph it. And the areas I have around me that I can use. The other is something you touched on is finances. I am on disability and have a family. The way I have gotten what I have is from selling stuff I got back when times where better. But then you run out of things that are worth much. In February I was able to buy the Nikon 200-500 which greatly improved my pictures. I sold a train and knife collection to do it. I am pleased with my lenses. My body is what I would like to upgrade. It is a D300 which is great, but limiting in ISO, Auto focus and buffer size. I dream of a D500. Would be so awesome. So many shots I miss I know I would get more of them with the upgrade. But I just don't have the funds. So I just keep using my D300 to the best of my ability and keep dreaming of that amazing D500. Thanks again for the great videos. I enjoy them all. You guys rock. www.flickr.com/photos/26345736@N04/
The starving child and buzzard shot was described differently in the Time magazine 100 influential photos edition. It also ignited a debate as to whether photojournalist should intervene to protect their fellow human subjects.
That was beautiful. Thank you for having this discussion
Awesome podcast - Really liked what you said at the end about wealth. Cost of gear is definitely a factor, even though you can take good shots with a phone these days. You need the free time to shoot lots as well and that costs as it's time away from a paying job - keep up the great work.
A wonderful subject, bravo for this one! You might almost ask what makes an artist great, and there would be no obvious answers there. What traits made Van Gogh so great today that no one had seen before in his lifetime? As for me, I now carry a camera with me almost everyday, and I just shoot and try anything. It raises my confidence and helps me learn about art, setting technique aside up to a point. I carry a "cheap" Canon ELPH 300HS that fits in my pocket nicely that takes awesome macro photos, and the results are often surprising and delightful. Even my Sony DSCHX50V turned out some very nice prints on letter sized mat paper from my camping trip, in spite of what I find are somewhat poorly detailed jpegs (it does not shoot RAW, which disappoints me a bit, unlike my beloved Alpha 65 or the Alpha 230 that did well, or my newly acquired used Nex 7). Then I often revisit my pictures and find stunning surprises that I had quickly looked at before. I just go at it and it will only grow and keep bringing nice gems to look at and share. It's almost like there's magic in the air... and it just happens that I click on the shutter button no matter what may come: nice or bust and anything in between.
This was interesting, I'm in a slightly odd position photographing holiday homes in the small cottages of Britain, it's somewhere in between real estate and design photography and as a result there are intricacies that make it quite unique. As a result, what i think makes a great photographer in the field is someone who sees what light they have, and then is able to know exactly what to add and what techniques to use to make the entire space look bright, yet welcoming and larger than it actually is. Its all about having a well practiced artistic vision, and then making it reality with well rounded and flexible technical ability. I'm not there yet!
Wow, you guys really hit home on this one! And I thought I was the only one who has these feelz lol. Chelsea really poured her heart out for good reason. Nothing is more disappointing than seeing people get rewarded for lack of effort!
I always enjoy you guys' informative and insightful videos! Love that subtle humor of Tony's. Lol. So funny.
Thanks guys for making this video. Very inspiring and eye-opening.!
Very thoughtful as well as educational. Thank you very much!
Thanks for the beautiful podcast guys!!
This is the smartest episode I just watched across youtube.
I really loved this video!
Thank you Tony and Chelsea.
THANK YOU SO MUCH CHELSEA! Thank you for what you stated at 26:39 into the podcast. I have been talking to a lot of people, some photogs and some not, about this very thing. You mention on your live shows the icons being important to catch the eye, but when you look at some of the greatest images few would get the likes/pause, in a thumbnail view. Our society seems to be loosing that pause to look, the stop and smell the roses has turned to over saturated Axe body spray to the senses. Thank you.
Very interesting podcast. How you went about getting the photo creatively such as your mention with fishing eagles elsewhere of being at the right place on their flight path, I found fascinating. I opine the techniques come more into play when moving from compacts to DSLRs with all their knobs and buttons; eg when I upgraded from the Pentax DSLR K-S2 to the K-70 I found the difference difficult to recall so gave the K-S2 to my wife, and bought a second K-70 to only need to learn one set. My wife migrated from her Sony bridge camera to the K-S2 so the advantage is sharing lenses, but we tend to use auto or scenes because despite having watched the balance of the 3 settings, we find thinking about creativity which sometimes is a fast response, having the scene settings done beforehand eg animals or indoors, makes getting the shot easier.
My fav video to date! Thanks for highlighting some great b&w's. The funniest part [21:48-] is when Chelsea talks about the TH-cam photographer Photoshoping a bird landing on a kid blowing bubbles and getting 500 likes lol! Also, Tony's follow-up is pricless "you gallery curator isn't going to be impressed by the number of likes you got".
Good, insightful info. Thanks Tony and Chelsea.
Understanding of beauty in everything. Understanding of balance in composition.
Great video, thanks Tony and Chelsea!
Well done guys, the most important topics out there. Thank you.
Thank you for making this video
This was a very insightful, illuminating, and informative podcast video.
I liked the video, thanks Chelsea and Tony for give to the people something more than reviews and numbers... however, you both always talk more than technical issues, but, the people not always understand the nuances "under surfaces" ;)
nice topic with a nice and empathic couple.