Zoomin Wafers is easily God tier. It saved my wife from drowning once cause I was able to free click a card instead of having to think about which card to play so I was able to go save my wife from drowning. That extra 20 seconds literally saved someone's life. Why I was playing Wildfrost while my wife was drowning is irrelevant, the card is a true miracle. We must respect the Zoomlin Wafers!
I could write a 12 page essay on how Zoomlin Wafers is a top 10 card. I could fight you on this like we're 19th century philosophers, Voyix. I can make a powerpoint presentation with cited sources. I can write a speech, a poem. I can enter the ring and thank Zoomlin Wafers when I win. I can run for president and have Zoomlin Wafers as my right-hand. I can run extensive excel research to calculate the value of Zoomlin Wafers throughout each of my runs. One day you will acknowledge its value, Voyix. You won't be able to ignore it anymore
if zoomlin wafers has a million haters i am one of them, if zoomlin wafers has 100 haters i am one of them, if zoomlin wafers has 1 hater it is me if zoomlin wafers has 0 haters i have been killed and disposed of by big zoomlin for spreading the truth
⚠️Teeth Build Flow Chart⚠️ Q: Can you make 30 teeth in 2 turns? (You can’t) If (yes) go for it buddy! If (no) big berry was right there! Why’d you take tusk?
I've played one teeth build ever and it was a tigris mask, sneezle, lupa, cursed crown noomlin charm duplicated shellbo in a deck so small that I went infinite turn one. It did, technically, do damage with teeth.
Mini Muncher feels like the clunkmaster version of Skull Muffin. There's cards that activate around destruction of other cards but it's really situational to the point of not being very good, but I still feel like there's SOME merit to it.
8:33 I'd say the argument for ranking starter cards relative to other cards is duplicators. A duplicator is technically just a different form of a regular card pick, different in that you have more than 3 options and pick between your own cards instead, but similar in that both of them effectively add a card to your deck. I'm very new to the game, so maybe I'm throwing, but I once got a duplicator early enough that I just choose sun rod (was a close call between sun rod and snow stick). In a situation like that, I'd be curious to see which of the starter cards you rank highest, and which of the starter cards perform well even in comparison to other cards.
it's gonna be too contextual i think, sun rod is good if the only thing you care about is your unit going really fast, typically that means you have something on low HP that wins you the game after it attacks twice. snow stick is good always, basically never bad to have more snow in your deck
One thing you didn't mention for plinker is that it almost wins the game on the spot when combined with durian charm. 6 damage every turn on a unit with 5 scrap is so unbelievably strong, and if you find a way too give it 1-2 frenzy it solo wins. So similar to how blaze bom is good at least in part because it instawins with cake charm, plinker is good because it instawins with durian charm.
@@Voyix i got a run recently with mama clunker, a plinker with durian and greed charm, then saw 2 item duplicates. It created an absolute firing squad. Favourite run I've ever had
14:11 I think blaze bom will never move down as long as there are attack clunkers. Unless you are getting hit for 0 damage the bom is irrelevant with scrap.
Im going to have to play devil's advocate; i think that despite zoomlin wafers having murdered mr wildfrost (and also my grandma in winter of 2023) , you need to at least give the card a chance. I saw it give a 20$ bill to a homeless guy once. Sure it filmed itself for clout and took back the money afterward, but the intention was there.
Fun stuff Voyix. I always appreciate your content : ) The only one I think you may have done somewhat dirty, given your context for "Clunker is at least always Solid" (due to chump block), is Scrap Pile. As long as you have at least one Clunker, it will do the benefit of that same chump blocker doing its chump twice, or surviving to really get its benefit. It's like Ice Dice, minus the randomness, giving the enemy Block, and the Nova synergy, but then with all the added Clunk synergies. (also Zoomlin Wafers)
the problem with scrap pile is you can draw it before you draw a clunker and then you just have a curse, kinda forces you to crown a clunker to cover that case
@@Voyix Fair. I think any run that you'd take it, you'd have at least a couple Clunkers you'd want to play (maybe even 4?), so bottom decking a clunker should be rare, and there are plenty that you may want to crown anyway, such as Gochapomper, the Mimic Bros, ICGM, Tootoridian, Pepper Flag (maybe?), and some other situational ones. Chump block a 4 turn timer enemy and it's effectively as good as freezing the enemy for their entire turn timer (preventing smackback, notwithstanding). I don't think crazy good, but Situational to Solid.
it seems kinda unecessary to me, the only thing i really think is that it might be nice if you have gachapomper and you're expecting the fight to go super long, like 12+ turns, then you can scrap pile so gachapomper doesnt die to barrage
You forgot one case with Shade Clay: Blank Mask. Sometimes (a lot of times) X+1 Blank Masks are better than just X. It's worth it even if you have to actually play the copied Mask as your first card outside crowns. But yeah, it's more about Blank Mask.
If you beat the frost gang (true ending) with every storm bell on different runs, you get the ability to apply all the bells at once! You can't get a number between 10 (final boss) and 22 (maximum) though which is a bummer
Genuinely how many people immediately skipped to zoomlin wafers? This is my opinion!: Also zoomlin wafer is personally a god card for me. In a game where the tempo and cards per action value significantly make and brake runs, a card which allows you to play 4 cards for 2 turns is still up 2 value. And with quite a handfull of options to invest into more cards in hand (junk- mini mika, baker - snuffer, entire snow dwellers - spice/shroom) this single card makes for a way better tempo setting up and dealing with threats before it gets dangerous. Moreover zoomlin wafers promotes a more card damage reliant build (slap cracker, hongo’s hammer, berry blade, azul battle axe, bone scrapper, proto stomper, clockwork bomb, in general all starter attacks, bomb barrel) which since the rework on dimona and addition of the strength bell has become more prominent. Moreover zoomlin wafers allow for setting up combos and synergies: tiny tyko, mini mika with multiple accounts of their scaling made doable in two actions is genuinely strong. Or the aforementioned card reliant decks, for example: Personnally had a run with recycle berry blade, 10 damage, with blunder tank, proto stomper and needle. In this run zoomlin wafer saved me approximately 7 turns a combat. Another example is that with the sacrifice cards, snuffer mask and groff, have had multiple occasions where tiger skull got to add 15+ teeth with incredible multikilling potential, which a turn 3 zoomlin wafers allowed, where I got to play snuffer mask, groff, jun jun, skull mist tea and tiger skull. I did have to immediately redraw because I bottom decked all those. An overburn set-up, especially with azul battle axe, azul candle, beepop mask, anything with flame blade charm and the like need a lot of time to set up an overburn stack for multikills and reaching the minimum of 30 in the frost gang. In my opinion zoomlin wafers seems incredible situational, but in reality it allows for a core benefit to all synergies. The gained tempo is personnaly felt in the majority of my runs. Zoomlin wafers feels like snow cake to me, allows for a higher tempo demanding deck, allows for immediate answers to imminent threats and unbelievable synergy with the majority of crazy set-ups. If you read all of this, I thank you.
Half way through the video and with only using the clunker class once (and winning), i had a feeling the clunker cards were really good. I didnt even think about how broken having infinite block on a card in your deck is.
@Voyix Magma Booster didnt work if you put extra hit Aimless charm on it. It wont work if you put extra hit consume on it. I think it check the unit if they already have aimless before apply +3. It was really disappointing.
I think the recycle mechanic needs a rework. Most of the time, you can’t get enough junk in hand with the cards that need it in order to be viable. I think it would be a better mechanic if the recycle effect was optional but provided a bonus effect. For example, units with recycle could attack like normal if you had no junk in hand, but if they successfully recycle junk they gain barrage for that attack, or get +3, or it reduces their counter for their next attack timer by 1, or draw 2 cards, etc. It could be a fixed effect or possibly even random for units, and be really good (or fun/funky). For other cards, maybe it could double the effect (snow amount, haze amount, damage, scrap health given, attack timer reduction, etc.) or allow you to draw a card, or give a bonus to units, or apply a random effect. Basically, make recycle an optional mechanic that doesn’t punish you for lack of junk and suddenly it becomes a lot more viable as a strategy.
Would be interesting to rank starter cards to consider in terms of card removal. They generally are probably the first things worth removing but would be great to know your thoughts 8:35
Something to remember about destroy self clunkers, if inked while attacking they will not destroy themselves. This is hard to do though since only 2 enemies (not really feasible to do on your own since it needs to be ink while triggering) do it octozooka and the apply ink when hit enemy. Very situational but useful
Eh.... ink that clunker mean it wouldnt trigger anyway? What is the point? Destroy self clunker are very powerful when trigger. It is only useful on Plinker.
@33:00 i respectfully disagree with this take. While, yes, it does makw the bomber/junker scarier, it effectively tanks two hits from them, being the 8-12 turn fight death timer reduction you had mentioned in Foggy brew’s speech. Try this card out on the final boss! It’ll surprise you, you just must Have No Fear.
the problem is that if you're not 100% sure of your estimation of the fight this card instant loses you the game, how sure are you that the fight lasts exactly 8-12 turns? if you kill the bomber in less time than that then you didnt need haze balloon it was just woodhead, and if you kill the bomber in more time than that you're getting doubled up barrage threatened on you
Hey Voyix I have an idea for you that may blow your mind and change this top you said that clunkers are good because the can tank a hit you so hear me out every summon card should be higher than clunkers cause they not only tank a hit for you they can do it as many times as you encounter that summon in your hand while clunkers can only be play once
I disagree on mini muncher, I also thought it was terrible when I first saw it on CM. but specifically on destroy builds, It is extremely good to get free activations if you can’t munch your hammers or junk
I minor disagreement I have is that Pom Mask should go in the "Infernoko" tier. It's useless against the Frost Gang but it makes all the fights up to them much easier in my experience. Barrage is really good and you will still get at least one barrage off on the row that it is in before it dies.
Azul axe in solid is insultingly low Things baseline is 6 damage st, 12 aoe, double dips on all damage buffs, quadruple dips in aoe scenarios, the entire aoe can scale off a single demonize, honestly my favorite shademancer card.
6 damage is not all that much in the true ending fight and i think that azul battle ax ends up mostly just being a nice little helper on the way there, but shademancers is already one of the most solid clans at reaching the final boss because of junjun
Final fight heart sword post buff at 1/3 naked azul damage and 1/4 the buff scaling gets a full tier higher? Heart sword has great early/mid defensive applications, but killing enemies faster is great for preventing damage in the first place, especially in shades who typically rely on chump blockers over hp to mitigate incoming damage. Part of why nova is broken is she has hextuple returns on damage buffs. Azul axe in the final fight has quadruple scaling *or 8x if you have a single demonize* while being more spammable at base with easier routes to further increase spammability. Not that azul axe is anywhere near nova in brokenness, but weaker nova is well above middle of the pack for items.
I think the recycle mechanic needs a rework. Most of the time, you can’t get enough junk in hand with the cards that need it in order to be viable. I think it would be a better mechanic if the recycle effect was optional but provided a bonus effect. For example, units with recycle could attack like normal if you had no junk in hand, but if they successfully recycle junk they gain barrage for that attack, or get +3, or it reduces their counter for their next attack timer by 1, or draw 2 cards, etc. It could be a fixed effect or possibly even random for units, and be really good (or fun/funky). For other cards, maybe it could double the effect (snow amount, haze amount, damage, scrap health given, attack timer reduction, etc.) or allow you to draw a card, or give a bonus to units, or apply a random effect. Basically, make recycle an optional mechanic that doesn’t punish you for lack of junk and suddenly it becomes a lot more viable as a strategy.
@@Voyix You could balance it by giving it consume, which would prevent it from getting too broken with a cake charm or anything, and maybe if you succeeded in recycling the consume wouldn’t trigger.
@@VoyixI have an idea Without junk: Reduces turn count of an item in hand by 2 (after it's placed it gains it's original turn count) With 2 junk: Reduce turn count of a card in hand by 2, add frenzy, gain consume. This means that it has it's uses without junk, but frenzy is good enough to save up two junk.
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Zoomin Wafers is easily God tier. It saved my wife from drowning once cause I was able to free click a card instead of having to think about which card to play so I was able to go save my wife from drowning. That extra 20 seconds literally saved someone's life. Why I was playing Wildfrost while my wife was drowning is irrelevant, the card is a true miracle. We must respect the Zoomlin Wafers!
Can't believe zoomlin wafers killed mister wildfrost, burger would never do that
Burger, what are you trying to hide?
When are they adding Foomlin Burgers
@@koveltskiis8391I thought Coomlin Biscuit was already broken enough, Foomlin Burger cross play would be absolutely insane
1:11:27 "how do I put this in a nice way?" Proceeds to spend more thought on the next words than on most Frost Guardian fights
I could write a 12 page essay on how Zoomlin Wafers is a top 10 card. I could fight you on this like we're 19th century philosophers, Voyix. I can make a powerpoint presentation with cited sources. I can write a speech, a poem. I can enter the ring and thank Zoomlin Wafers when I win. I can run for president and have Zoomlin Wafers as my right-hand. I can run extensive excel research to calculate the value of Zoomlin Wafers throughout each of my runs. One day you will acknowledge its value, Voyix. You won't be able to ignore it anymore
if zoomlin wafers has a million haters i am one of them,
if zoomlin wafers has 100 haters i am one of them,
if zoomlin wafers has 1 hater it is me
if zoomlin wafers has 0 haters i have been killed and disposed of by big zoomlin for spreading the truth
Zoomlin wafers are only good with noomlin charm, but witg noomlin charm they are just free play your entire hand
zoomlin wafers killed my grandma, okay?!
I appreciate these tier lists, sometimes i like videos i can listen to rather than watch and these are perfect on the way to work
I do also think blank mask needs a nerf, getting double nova's is silly
⚠️Teeth Build Flow Chart⚠️
Q: Can you make 30 teeth in 2 turns? (You can’t)
If (yes) go for it buddy!
If (no) big berry was right there! Why’d you take tusk?
I always make a teeth build and have a very high win rate.
Spike and no other teeth counts as a teeth build right?
@user-vb8zo6kh4j well it has teeth and it is a build, so technically
@@user-vb8zo6kh4j what frost bell level?
I've played one teeth build ever and it was a tigris mask, sneezle, lupa, cursed crown noomlin charm duplicated shellbo in a deck so small that I went infinite turn one. It did, technically, do damage with teeth.
Mini Muncher feels like the clunkmaster version of Skull Muffin.
There's cards that activate around destruction of other cards but it's really situational to the point of not being very good, but I still feel like there's SOME merit to it.
8:33
I'd say the argument for ranking starter cards relative to other cards is duplicators. A duplicator is technically just a different form of a regular card pick, different in that you have more than 3 options and pick between your own cards instead, but similar in that both of them effectively add a card to your deck. I'm very new to the game, so maybe I'm throwing, but I once got a duplicator early enough that I just choose sun rod (was a close call between sun rod and snow stick). In a situation like that, I'd be curious to see which of the starter cards you rank highest, and which of the starter cards perform well even in comparison to other cards.
it's gonna be too contextual i think, sun rod is good if the only thing you care about is your unit going really fast, typically that means you have something on low HP that wins you the game after it attacks twice. snow stick is good always, basically never bad to have more snow in your deck
One thing you didn't mention for plinker is that it almost wins the game on the spot when combined with durian charm. 6 damage every turn on a unit with 5 scrap is so unbelievably strong, and if you find a way too give it 1-2 frenzy it solo wins.
So similar to how blaze bom is good at least in part because it instawins with cake charm, plinker is good because it instawins with durian charm.
oh yeah, i did forget plinker durian charm, havent seen it in a long time
@@Voyix i got a run recently with mama clunker, a plinker with durian and greed charm, then saw 2 item duplicates. It created an absolute firing squad. Favourite run I've ever had
I had a cool infinite with zoomlin nest, the bell that makes recalling companions countdown the redraw bell by 2, and a spark charm.
14:11 I think blaze bom will never move down as long as there are attack clunkers. Unless you are getting hit for 0 damage the bom is irrelevant with scrap.
Im going to have to play devil's advocate; i think that despite zoomlin wafers having murdered mr wildfrost (and also my grandma in winter of 2023) , you need to at least give the card a chance. I saw it give a 20$ bill to a homeless guy once. Sure it filmed itself for clout and took back the money afterward, but the intention was there.
Fun stuff Voyix. I always appreciate your content : )
The only one I think you may have done somewhat dirty, given your context for "Clunker is at least always Solid" (due to chump block), is Scrap Pile. As long as you have at least one Clunker, it will do the benefit of that same chump blocker doing its chump twice, or surviving to really get its benefit. It's like Ice Dice, minus the randomness, giving the enemy Block, and the Nova synergy, but then with all the added Clunk synergies.
(also Zoomlin Wafers)
the problem with scrap pile is you can draw it before you draw a clunker and then you just have a curse, kinda forces you to crown a clunker to cover that case
@@Voyix Fair. I think any run that you'd take it, you'd have at least a couple Clunkers you'd want to play (maybe even 4?), so bottom decking a clunker should be rare, and there are plenty that you may want to crown anyway, such as Gochapomper, the Mimic Bros, ICGM, Tootoridian, Pepper Flag (maybe?), and some other situational ones. Chump block a 4 turn timer enemy and it's effectively as good as freezing the enemy for their entire turn timer (preventing smackback, notwithstanding).
I don't think crazy good, but Situational to Solid.
it seems kinda unecessary to me, the only thing i really think is that it might be nice if you have gachapomper and you're expecting the fight to go super long, like 12+ turns, then you can scrap pile so gachapomper doesnt die to barrage
You forgot one case with Shade Clay: Blank Mask. Sometimes (a lot of times) X+1 Blank Masks are better than just X. It's worth it even if you have to actually play the copied Mask as your first card outside crowns. But yeah, it's more about Blank Mask.
ya that's true, blank mask is good enough to just shade clay it
Beat the heart of the storm (true final boss) at 10 storm bells, any reason why i cant go beyond 10 storm strength?
If you beat the frost gang (true ending) with every storm bell on different runs, you get the ability to apply all the bells at once! You can't get a number between 10 (final boss) and 22 (maximum) though which is a bummer
Blaze bom can be combo with berry basket
Btw, lil berry is broken with heartmist station
Insha Allah one day Voyix will learn what tempo is and put Zoomlin Wafers in Solid tier where it belongs
it's so wild because it slows your tempo down but people keep typing this shit to me
17:52 so true blunder tank once save my cat when he choked on catnip. What a legend!
shout out to blunder tank, what a homie
Genuinely how many people immediately skipped to zoomlin wafers?
This is my opinion!:
Also zoomlin wafer is personally a god card for me. In a game where the tempo and cards per action value significantly make and brake runs, a card which allows you to play 4 cards for 2 turns is still up 2 value. And with quite a handfull of options to invest into more cards in hand (junk- mini mika, baker - snuffer, entire snow dwellers - spice/shroom) this single card makes for a way better tempo setting up and dealing with threats before it gets dangerous. Moreover zoomlin wafers promotes a more card damage reliant build (slap cracker, hongo’s hammer, berry blade, azul battle axe, bone scrapper, proto stomper, clockwork bomb, in general all starter attacks, bomb barrel) which since the rework on dimona and addition of the strength bell has become more prominent. Moreover zoomlin wafers allow for setting up combos and synergies: tiny tyko, mini mika with multiple accounts of their scaling made doable in two actions is genuinely strong. Or the aforementioned card reliant decks, for example: Personnally had a run with recycle berry blade, 10 damage, with blunder tank, proto stomper and needle. In this run zoomlin wafer saved me approximately 7 turns a combat. Another example is that with the sacrifice cards, snuffer mask and groff, have had multiple occasions where tiger skull got to add 15+ teeth with incredible multikilling potential, which a turn 3 zoomlin wafers allowed, where I got to play snuffer mask, groff, jun jun, skull mist tea and tiger skull. I did have to immediately redraw because I bottom decked all those. An overburn set-up, especially with azul battle axe, azul candle, beepop mask, anything with flame blade charm and the like need a lot of time to set up an overburn stack for multikills and reaching the minimum of 30 in the frost gang. In my opinion zoomlin wafers seems incredible situational, but in reality it allows for a core benefit to all synergies. The gained tempo is personnaly felt in the majority of my runs. Zoomlin wafers feels like snow cake to me, allows for a higher tempo demanding deck, allows for immediate answers to imminent threats and unbelievable synergy with the majority of crazy set-ups. If you read all of this, I thank you.
i can't believe he did that to zoomlin wafers man
don't mind me, just expediting the discourse
Half way through the video and with only using the clunker class once (and winning), i had a feeling the clunker cards were really good. I didnt even think about how broken having infinite block on a card in your deck is.
33:20 can go increase haze balloon haze via lumin vase/lantern/lupa.
@Voyix Magma Booster didnt work if you put extra hit Aimless charm on it. It wont work if you put extra hit consume on it. I think it check the unit if they already have aimless before apply +3. It was really disappointing.
i've done it before, maybe it got changed in 1.2 and i just havent seen it
I think the recycle mechanic needs a rework. Most of the time, you can’t get enough junk in hand with the cards that need it in order to be viable.
I think it would be a better mechanic if the recycle effect was optional but provided a bonus effect. For example, units with recycle could attack like normal if you had no junk in hand, but if they successfully recycle junk they gain barrage for that attack, or get +3, or it reduces their counter for their next attack timer by 1, or draw 2 cards, etc.
It could be a fixed effect or possibly even random for units, and be really good (or fun/funky).
For other cards, maybe it could double the effect (snow amount, haze amount, damage, scrap health given, attack timer reduction, etc.) or allow you to draw a card, or give a bonus to units, or apply a random effect.
Basically, make recycle an optional mechanic that doesn’t punish you for lack of junk and suddenly it becomes a lot more viable as a strategy.
Would be interesting to rank starter cards to consider in terms of card removal. They generally are probably the first things worth removing but would be great to know your thoughts 8:35
Something to remember about destroy self clunkers, if inked while attacking they will not destroy themselves. This is hard to do though since only 2 enemies (not really feasible to do on your own since it needs to be ink while triggering) do it octozooka and the apply ink when hit enemy. Very situational but useful
Eh.... ink that clunker mean it wouldnt trigger anyway? What is the point? Destroy self clunker are very powerful when trigger. It is only useful on Plinker.
@@nguyendi92snowed icgm retains frenzy when it triggers. So inking it when you can retrigger it means you get ultra value
lol i love the disclaimer about not needing tier lists
thats not why im here >:O i never intend to buy or play wildfrost lol
@33:00 i respectfully disagree with this take. While, yes, it does makw the bomber/junker scarier, it effectively tanks two hits from them, being the 8-12 turn fight death timer reduction you had mentioned in Foggy brew’s speech. Try this card out on the final boss! It’ll surprise you, you just must Have No Fear.
the problem is that if you're not 100% sure of your estimation of the fight this card instant loses you the game, how sure are you that the fight lasts exactly 8-12 turns? if you kill the bomber in less time than that then you didnt need haze balloon it was just woodhead, and if you kill the bomber in more time than that you're getting doubled up barrage threatened on you
@@Voyix fair. I guess im just more content to add woodhead 2 to my deck, and i find if the fight lasted 12 turns (non berry sis) then i lost anyways.
Noomlin biscuits has won me many runs. Because it does infinites.
Hey Voyix I have an idea for you that may blow your mind and change this top you said that clunkers are good because the can tank a hit you so hear me out every summon card should be higher than clunkers cause they not only tank a hit for you they can do it as many times as you encounter that summon in your hand while clunkers can only be play once
I disagree on mini muncher, I also thought it was terrible when I first saw it on CM. but specifically on destroy builds, It is extremely good to get free activations if you can’t munch your hammers or junk
I minor disagreement I have is that Pom Mask should go in the "Infernoko" tier. It's useless against the Frost Gang but it makes all the fights up to them much easier in my experience. Barrage is really good and you will still get at least one barrage off on the row that it is in before it dies.
Soulbound skulls can free up one slot for pom mask
Zoomin on wafer street.
A yap list?!
Don't mind if I dooo
oh i was wondering when this was happening yesterday lol
First your mouse sabotages you, then zoomlin wafers literally murders you? What has the world come to...
Azul axe in solid is insultingly low
Things baseline is 6 damage st, 12 aoe, double dips on all damage buffs, quadruple dips in aoe scenarios, the entire aoe can scale off a single demonize, honestly my favorite shademancer card.
6 damage is not all that much in the true ending fight and i think that azul battle ax ends up mostly just being a nice little helper on the way there, but shademancers is already one of the most solid clans at reaching the final boss because of junjun
Final fight heart sword post buff at 1/3 naked azul damage and 1/4 the buff scaling gets a full tier higher?
Heart sword has great early/mid defensive applications, but killing enemies faster is great for preventing damage in the first place, especially in shades who typically rely on chump blockers over hp to mitigate incoming damage.
Part of why nova is broken is she has hextuple returns on damage buffs. Azul axe in the final fight has quadruple scaling *or 8x if you have a single demonize* while being more spammable at base with easier routes to further increase spammability. Not that azul axe is anywhere near nova in brokenness, but weaker nova is well above middle of the pack for items.
Shade wisp ooba bear
wtf...
I think the recycle mechanic needs a rework. Most of the time, you can’t get enough junk in hand with the cards that need it in order to be viable.
I think it would be a better mechanic if the recycle effect was optional but provided a bonus effect. For example, units with recycle could attack like normal if you had no junk in hand, but if they successfully recycle junk they gain barrage for that attack, or get +3, or it reduces their counter for their next attack timer by 1, or draw 2 cards, etc.
It could be a fixed effect or possibly even random for units, and be really good (or fun/funky).
For other cards, maybe it could double the effect (snow amount, haze amount, damage, scrap health given, attack timer reduction, etc.) or allow you to draw a card, or give a bonus to units, or apply a random effect.
Basically, make recycle an optional mechanic that doesn’t punish you for lack of junk and suddenly it becomes a lot more viable as a strategy.
great idea yeah. this would help a lot, though idk how you'd change a card like frenzy wrench
@@Voyix You could balance it by giving it consume, which would prevent it from getting too broken with a cake charm or anything, and maybe if you succeeded in recycling the consume wouldn’t trigger.
@@VoyixI have an idea
Without junk:
Reduces turn count of an item in hand by 2 (after it's placed it gains it's original turn count)
With 2 junk:
Reduce turn count of a card in hand by 2, add frenzy, gain consume.
This means that it has it's uses without junk, but frenzy is good enough to save up two junk.