I only found this video a week ago and since then I've been bombarding myself with your videos, I was in total dispare and in so much pain and already I'm so much better . I left the TN groups , they are so unhelpful, every word they use is negative, I sent off for Dr Sarnos book and have just started it this morning I believe I can do this, with the help of you and your channel xx
Mine is labeled as glossopharyngeal neuralgia, a TN sibling. Also known as the suicidal disease. It is a heavy label and the fact that there is very few success story in TMS community scares me sometimes. I am trying to forget this label. Mine started after surgery and I know the body heals but the perceived danger remains. I have learned that the brain interprets facial body part as very important and that is why the sensation can be overwhelming, especially if it is non stop. Thanks God we have your videos to support us and make this journey lighter.
Mine also started after the lipoma removal which was located on my upper spine. It has been a huge journey for me but the worrior in me remains positive and I am trying to reprogram myself. I believe our body has the capacity to heal itself and I am using the visualisation to be in perfect health again. 🙏💓
You are right.. I used to be a tn patient.. i successfully ignored it years ago, I literally decided I wanted to live my life. And believe me I have been having extreme pain and often thought I’d rather die than that pain. I had been suffering from very early age… 15.. Spirituality has helped me. Believing is seeing. Not the other way around. People who have limiting subconscious beliefs around what causes the pain, a good way is change your beliefs with night time targeted affirmations (playing at night very low volume while sleeping so they can get into the subconscious mind)
What you say here is extremely important. Our beliefs are so powerful in the physical world. In a Course in Miracles, it is stated that although most people would argue that they only believe it because they see it/experience it, a greater truth is that you can only see/experience what you believe. (ACIM Chapter 11 VI. 1.: " It is impossible not to believe what you see, but it is equally impossible to see what you do not believe Perceptions are built up on the basis of experience, and experience leads to beliefs. It is not until beliefs are fixed that perceptions stabilize. In effect, then, what you believe you do see." Everything you experience in the world of form comes from the mind. Not just pain. Everything is a projection of the mind according to ACIM, Nisargadatta, Ramana Maharshi, Robert Adams, etc. Thus, all solutions to every problem come from fixing the mind's beliefs. The spiritual masters all say that the physical world itself is an illusion of mind. So obviously the conscious and subconscious mind determines our experience in this world. This lines up perfectly with Dan's mind approach to pain.
Mine came on after Botox for migraines. I believe a nerve was damaged then but not now! I also was hit in the head with a window & had a huge structural issue that wasn’t fixed until 2 years later. It was a very, very dark time in my life. I did a tapping recently that was letting go of the diagnosis. You are right as society makes us believe it’s a death sentence! Suicide disease! I belong to no more TN groups! They are too depressing! But letting go of this diagnosis is a piece of my puzzle that was never dealt with. My ATN didn’t go away after my huge C1/C2 craniotomy surgery but it has lessened up at times. It went full blast with the death of my dogs, both my parents, adult children issues, & chronic health issues with my dog now. I so know it’s TMS even having 4 levels of fusion in my neck & little motion. Everything heals! Doubt is deadly! We must take our power back and say NO to all this other BS! Time, repetition, belief, & letting go of all the fear and doubt will get me to where I need to be again! Thanks Dan!!! I will be pain free! Little by little I’m making progress and learning a lot about myself!
I saw a video of Dr Schubiner doing a session with a young woman who has this condition. She was having pain and he worked with her and her pain dissipated in the session. She was overwhelmed with emotion. He prepared her that more work would need to be done and that the pain would return. But she now saw that she could actually calm down the reactivity and get relief.. it was powerful to watch.
@@jauhochang5030 I would if I had it! I saw it as part of a group discussion held online by Dr David Hanscom. If I can get the link from him I will be happy to share it. it was very emotional and powerful to watch this young woman experience relief because Dr Schubiner was so skilled at helping her feel safe and understand how pain is the brain's interpretation of experience and context. I will email and see if that link is available to share.
On page 88 of the Mindbody Prescription, John Sarno stated the following: "A number of years ago I had an episode of dental nerve pain that could not be explained. After suffering it for a few months, I was looking at anatomical drawings of the nervous system with patients one day when I came upon a particularly vivid depiction of the nerve supply to the teeth, branches of the fifth nerve, and immediately wondered if the dental pain might be TMS of the trigeminal nerve. I concluded that it was - and the pain was gone in less than forty-eight hours. This is an example of the therapeutic power of awareness as will be described in Part III of this book." I know Sarno did not suffer from full-blown TN, but he did experience some trigeminal nerve pain issues related to his teeth and solved them himself using his own approach. I figured it would be useful here to point that out.
Dan I had severe boughts of this type of pain for years off and and on it only comes during stressful times…when it does I tell my brain to stop this it’s not helping me and it vanishes completely…I wish this approach would work with rest of my issues ..
This is so great, thank you Dan. I heard you briefly mention TN in a more recent video and it gave me an aha moment. I realised my dear friend’s husband had been diagnosed with this and has undergone 2 operations. She said they haven’t been a success. So I looked for more in-depth discussion about it and this video came up. I have reached out to her just now to see if she would be open to a different approach and way of seeing it. She simply said ‘maybe’. I think that’s all I can do for now. But if she would like to know more, I’ll let her know about this video and your content. Thank you for all you do for this community, Dan. Kind regards from Dianne in Melbourne 💐
Thank you for sharing the information. This success story may be helpful for your friends husband too. th-cam.com/video/vRML9jPr_kw/w-d-xo.html In my experience, TN is created in the brain. If it was physical, the surgeries would have succeeded.
Thank you for your kind reply, Dan. And thank you for sharing the link to the TN success story. I was going to search for that today, but you saved me the time. My friend did reply saying I could send some information, but had been on many roads to healing, all to no avail. I mentioned she may not have come across this avenue yet… I agree if the surgeries were going to make a difference, they should have by now. Thank you again and please keep up your vital work. Best wishes again from me 💐
Just got this diagnosis 😢 crying my face off! My tn is wild, I pull teeth out because the pain is so bad. I’m 35 I’m out of teeth just about 😭😭😭😭😭 I appreciate this video Dan thank you so much I will watch over and over and over and over!!! Xo
It's the terrified brain that creates the pain and keeps it going. Your body healed. Watch my fast start playlist over and over. And implement too. DansFastStart.com You can get well. Two success stories: th-cam.com/video/vRML9jPr_kw/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/qOZArhsNdi4/w-d-xo.html
@@Leonschulze06hardest thing I’ve ever gone through! BUT… my pain is down to a 0-1 daily! I started reading the book THE WAY OUT by Alan Gordon AMAZING!!! I learned techniques that have saved me! I started this thing called the doc journey also helped! I hired a neuroplastic mind body psychologist and ya I’m almost out if pain ❤❤❤❤ I binged dans videos as well ❤❤🎉🎉
I have no doubt that TN is caused by the brain. I have seen improvement in mine since I started doing DNRS. It's not gone yet but it's definitely gotten way better. Still working on the cold / wind exposure and other triggers that set it off. But the general pain I get is down. I think you are spot on with the coming and going of symptoms, as that is a great indicator to me that it's brain related. I have chronic pain in so many parts of my body that the only logical explanation to me is that it's caused by the brain. It just doesn't make sense that I would be truly physically damaged in so many parts of my body (face, knees, shoulders, wrists, tendons, back etc.). The simplest explanation is that it's caused by the brain.
Thank you for sharing your insight. Based on your description, it definitely sounds like TMS / Brain created. Take the pain test to see for sure. DaBuglio.com/paintest A score of 29 or higher is TMS and can be eliminated. If you want help with a program to teach your brain to turn off the symptoms, check out PainFreeYou.com/join for details.
I feel my own difference when I use mind control. I have been using the mind control Siri I have been using the mind control theory for two years now and I see improvements but mostly I see improvements because I left Florida, the tropics where the Heat and the sun were killing me
Definitely it is TMS, i had it , it started after a discussion with my ex boss, very significative because never had it before. I was very frustrated with that woman and i wanted to tell her many ugly things, but i never expressed what i felt to her, and the real thing is that i hated her so much. She still treats her employees like robots and tramples them because the only thing she matters is 💸. the worst person i ever met.
@@PainFreeYou yes, my TMS really started before that conversation with back and neck pain for the same reason. I was feeling very bad on that job. That conversation was the trigger of the facial nerve symptom. Luckily i finished that work after that hahha. Have a nice day 🍀🌈😜
There's a lady on all.news with this today awaiting so called operation on veins wrapped around nerves which will last between two to ten years if it's mechanical how will it only help this.my friend has this and gets worker cold is trigger and under stress
..Just came across this video. Are there other neurologic symptoms (like dystonia) that seem to be "owned" by neurologists, that are really explained by MBS? Very frustrating. Thanks for the videos; I just joined the groups.
Dystonia can definitely be caused by the brain. MBS Perceived danger is the cause in my belief. th-cam.com/video/tnU6KBAv5fg/w-d-xo.html Take the assessments to see what's going on in your situation: www.PainFreeYou.com/start
I have trigeminal neuralgia. All day most days with a gap of maximum maybe 1 hour. I do have an issue there sadly that can cause these symtoms but I am still going with the opinion that a good deal of them are down to stress and overthinking about the pain. Im a little bit better these last few weeks watching your videos so thanks for all your efforts :)
Hi Dan, long time listener and follower of the ethos. I have personally helped so many of my chronic pain and nervous system conditions from this work and brain retraining. My question is for multiple sclerosis; where there is demyelination on the nerve, do you think this can be treated by TMS type mindset as well? My Mum is really struggling with TN and is hesitant to do this work because she sees it as permanent damage. I was interested on your thoughts on this?
If by TN you mean Trigeminal Neuralgia, yes, this work can absolutely help. Regarding MS - that may not be as cut and dry. However, I do believe that a scared brain that thinks we are broken creates symptoms. The more perceived danger, the more pronounced the symptoms are. If the MS was diagnosed by imaging studies, to me, that proves the physical state of the body. The symptoms and the intensity of them may still able to be influenced regardless. My take is that there is literally no downside and only benefit to teaching our brains we are not damaged. th-cam.com/video/g5xWR6eBlb8/w-d-xo.html
I was cured by Sarno 30 years ago and I've been a Mind Body guy ever since. So I don't take issue with your conclusion, but as a scientist, I can tell you the main reason it is difficult to get structuralists or anyone else to accept a 'TMS' diagnosis--it is the lack of scientific study and explanation of tms-aos-psychogenic disorders. I pushed back against Sarno even 30 yrs ago, and he had no response back then (fortunately, I was able to accept that my pain was psychogenic). Some progress has been made by folks like Schubiner etc and related concepts like centralized sensitization, but it is not enough IMO. Until we get a better understanding of how 'TMS' works in the context of specific conditions (why the trigeminal, for example?) it will be a huge struggle to get many people to accept a psychogenic explanation.
Maybe this is what im experiencing in my teeth and gums. I had no such pain before my wisdom teeth surgery and then once i did have it then BAM! Pain in my gums and teeth. Dentists can't figure out what's wrong. I needed the surgery but damn i wish my mouth was like it was before.
Perceived Danger Pain is likely the issue. (TMS) Watch the fast start playlist to learn the most common cause of pain, how to tell if this is what is going on with you and, what to do about it. DansFastStart.com
To make it clearer because when you say fear drives symptoms is general without an example laid out clearly . If her pain went away for months which I would literally give a limb for and when the cold hit came back it’s because she associated the pain with the cold period cold =pain in her brain. TN is not aggravated by cold nerves LOVE the cold because it reduces inflammation what nerves actually don’t like is the heat which raises it. Muscles love the heat which is telling as to what may be causing this problem. I have it but i hate the label so u don’t identify with it however regardless of the mind body connection there is actual physiology and what I just said exists in all materials that talk about nerves. Cold nor heat either way affects my issue if I’m flaring in flaring period otherwise I’m chronically feeling it constantly at a lower level. If it goes away for months it isn’t pathological it’s TMS without a doubt. It’s hard to know whether it is or isn’t so I just keep doing this work hoping.
I guess there is always an exception to rules and theories. For the first 10 or so years of Trigeminal neuralgia, holding something cold in my mouth actually made me feel temporarily better but cold air still caused pain. Then suddenly, anything cold in my mouth started causing pain. For years I had the expectation that cold would help me feel better. I had to almost completely eliminate food cooler than room temperature. Sometimes I had to resort to nothing colder than luke warm. It all depends on how angry my nerve is. In my particular case, I knew very little about TN and the typical symptoms for the first 5 or so years, yet I had them. I know of many in my support group who get relief from ice packs. I'm not hating on your mind-body-pain theories but I am sure you can understand how a person with an invisible illness that is "all in their head", and often not believed by the medical community could have a cringy reaction to your explanation of why we have TN pain. I often find myself in pain and have to stop and assess what I might have been doing or exposed myself to that could have triggered the pain. Therefore, I don't think it is anticipation or fear of pain that has told me I am in pain. And conversely I have often been in situations that would usually cause pain, yet, I don't have pain or the intensity of pain that I have had under similar circumstances. I was diagnosed in 1999, over the years I learned to very carefully think about what I had been doing or what conditions were prior to an increase in pain. I have used this self monitoring to decide if I want to altar my behavior to avoid increasing the likelihood of more pain. Best wishes and I sincerely hope that your methods are helpful to those in need.
You are talking sense. I manage my symptoms well with medication and avoiding the triggers. Cold wind, and changes of temperature are my triggers. As you say the pain can come suddenly even when I am not stressed so I don't believe that stress causes it. Good luck to you.
It's not all in your head. Trigeminal neuralgia is a nervous system issue. Your nervous system, like everyone else on this page, is dysregulated. This causes real pain. All pain ultimately comes from nerves, whether there is a physical/structural cause or a psychogenic cause. Nobody knows exactly why the nervous system does what it does. Some people have worse pain than others, and in different areas of the body. But for the most part, overactive and dysregulated nerves are related to emotional stress and fear. They can be either a distraction mechanism to avoid the emotions and/or a fear mechanism. You even say that your pain depends on how angry your nerve is. Angry nerves are not a physical thing. It is not a symptom of a brain disease. Because your pain is not due to an actual injury to a bone or muscle or other physical part of your body, and is not a brain disease, you can impact how your nervous system reacts through the techniques taught by Dan and others like him. You are not totally at the mercy of your dysregulated nervous system, unless you believe you are. Your beliefs are very powerful to your nervous system. Your ego likes to keep you distracted and under its control, and one way to do that is with pain. It is very effective. It works on me also. But at the end of the day, I realize there is nothing really wrong with my brain or nerves. They are not damaged. They are dysregulated. Dysregulated nerves are not going to behave predictably unfortunately. So you won't always be able to point to a specific psychological/stress trigger. But most likely your mind itself is under stress. I know mine is. The unpredictability of the pain itself keeps the mind under constant stress. It is a vicious cycle. I don't think most people suffering from the type of pain Dan deals with can say with a straight face that their minds are calm, happy, and emotionally stress free. I would describe myself as a "nervous wreck" much of the time. Almost all of us here have unconscious (or conscious) emotional stress we have not dealt with, as well as fear of our bodies/nerves. I seriously doubt there is any exception to this. I guess if you were a football player and have CTE from numerous concussions, you might be an exception. I just wanted to respond to this post because your post might trigger doubt in someone who is using this approach to heal themselves, and that doubt could delay their recovery. That's how powerful our beliefs are. I would not want any person reading these messages to think that they might be an exception to the rule. They are almost certainly not.
@@othervideos4002 Thank you for your comments. Perhaps I am not sure what dysregulated means in relationship to a blood vessel and artery pressing and pulsing against my Trigeminal Nerve. This is a physical reality. Does dysregulation apply to the nerve pain caused by broken bone? I am not being sarcastic or mean any disrespect. I don't know how disregulation applies to pain caused by a physical condition. My comments were not in any way meant to discourage anyone from pursuing helpful methods of reducing their pain. I was merely describing my situation. Believe me I would love to return to being a fully functioning human being but that is not in the cards for me and many others who have what is nicknamed, "The Suicide Disease."
@@marlainehysell5989 I understand what you are saying. A broken bone is definitely physical. However, if it were me I would not resign myself to believe that a pulsing blood vessel against a nerve is causing my pain. If you have read all of Sarno's books, you will come to the conclusion that doctors often times do not know why someone is in pain and will just look at a scan and determine something on the scan is causing the pain, like a bulging disc, just to provide an answer. I would try Dan's/Sarno's techniques to see if they would help. At least read Sarno's books. They have helped me greatly with headaches and neck pain, including occipital pain that most doctors would likely say is occipital neuralgia. At least that's what I thought it was based on tons of google research. I don't believe that anymore. For over a year, I had a severe occipital/tension headache. No amount of ibuprofen would put a dent into it. As of about 8 years ago, I am no longer in constant pain. After a year of counseling, meditating, breathing, changing my attitudes toward myself and life, and reading Sarno, my constant pain gradually went away. No surgery, no medicine. But my pain flares up here and there. I have to keep my mind calm or I will be back in pain. That's why I watch Dan's videos. It's a good reminder for me. Anyway, I pray and hope for the best for you. I would give Dan and Sarno a shot here. There is also a book I read called the Presence Process by Michael Brown that might help you. He had what he describes as very similar to trigeminal neuralgia and he solved it. It is a good read.
@@marlainehysell5989 I just read your comment. If it is a pulsating blood vessel and/or artery pushing against your nerve is creating the pain, how would cold or warm food in your mouth affect that? No way the temperature of the food in your mouth could change your trigeminal nerve location, or your blood vessel and artery location, or how hard your blood pumps. If that's what doctors told you, I don't think they are right. I'm not saying your are wrong, it just doesn't sound like the cause to me.
I've had daily facial pain for the last 7 months. I'm scared to go to the neurologist because I don't want the TN label. I feel so hopeless and I want the Mind Body approach to help me but I feel like there aren't many success stories out there. I've been working on this for the last 2 months and I think it's improved my mental state somewhat but the pain remains. I feel hopeless and I'm not sure which way to go. I'm pregnant and I'm worried I'm putting this stress on my baby.
I have two trigeminal neuralgia success stories on my channel. TN is definitely TMS / Perceived Danger Pain. th-cam.com/users/PainFreeYousearch?query=trigeminal
There is no need to fear this please get it looked at by a doctor and/or neurologist too alongside exploring TMS. It might not even be TN and avoiding a neurologist completely is not the answer. By all means look into TMS but exploring all your options is in your own self interest. It is simply not possible to prove that all cases of TN are definitely TMS / perceived danger pain even if some cases are. That is a vast sweeping statement For these two success stories there are many many more success stories from different types of medical intervention. I am of the opinion that it is best to look at all angles so you can make an informed decision.
My neurologist has controlled my pain for 5 years medically. I have been to UK nationL TN conferences and there are many more success stories than not. Don't be afraid to see a doctor. Good luck
@@clairepalmer8718what does your doctor have you on? My neurologist just gave me carbamazepine. Haven’t started it yet as my pain is very TMJ related with neuropathy in my head. All right side.
I've been living my life the best I can but it hurts!!! THERE IS NO HOPE. YOU JUST WANT MONEY!! I HAVE NO MONEY ANTMORE BECAUSE I AM DEFISTATED BY TN. My life needs to be over 😮
I'm sorry you are going through such a tough time. But let's be clear, I don't want money. I have posted 1650 videos about chronic pain and other chronic conditions. Hundreds of hours of content which I spent many thousands of hours making this content. All for free. Many people are getting well by watching and implementing my free video content. You can too. A great place to begin to understand the cause of pain and what to do about it is my fast start playlist. It's free. DansFastStart.com
I’ve been suffering from intense earache, face pain and headache out of no where for the past 3 months. The pain position keeps moving and I even start to get very weird sensations on my face and head, like cold/warm water running down. The doctor has no clue. Is this TMS?
It sounds like it. Take the pain test to see for sure. DaBuglio.com/paintest A score of 29 or higher is TMS and can be eliminated. If you want help with a program to teach your brain to turn off the symptoms, check out PainFreeYou.com/join for details.
@@PainFreeYou Thanks Dan. I did the test and got a score of 33. I think this is good news, even though won't be easy. I need to count on myself not the doctors to recover.
@@yandu9361 if they have checked in your head it certainly sounds like there isn't anything wrong. Great news. I wish you luck with your TMS work. I have trigeminal neuralgia and have had a big reduction in symtoms since I started thinking of it as stress induced pain. I have some similar symtoms to you too. Cold on forehead, a dripping feeling down my left eye lid and down my nose and crawling sensations, terrible pain. The only other thing that I should mention to you is I've noticed recently medication from doc is making the sensations and pain worse, I'm slowly reducing. I dont know if you recently started any meds.
I will preface this by saying I am a sufferer of TN successfully controlled with anti seizure medication which normalises the neuron flow in the sodium channels to the nerve. few things I disagree with. You imply that there is no understanding in the medical arena and that no scan can find a cause and I do find this a little disingenuous. TN is most often the result of a blood vessel or artery causing a compression on the nerve but can be caused by a tumour, lesions, MS. and other physical issues. You mention there is no medical success yet plenty of patients are successfully helped with medical intervention be it surgery, acupuncture, cbd therapy, medication, nerve blocks, Botox. Most patients on the right combination of medication find relief but you tend to only hear the horror stories. You mention no scan can find a cause. An MRI can detect both any compression of the nerve and/or any other more life threatening conditions causing the pain. I would encourage anyone to seek out a physical cause first before writing it off as such because it could save your life with the added bonus of helping your pain even if my opinion on TN is wrong. The triggers and symptoms make perfect sense if there is a physical interaction with the nerve. A few things I do agree though Fear plays a huge part in a period when it is active and that the brain tells us we are in danger which probably ramps up the symptoms and triggers - stress is a big trigger for some. Maybe the anxiety causes stress, the stress causes higher blood pressure, the blood vessel responds comes into contact with the nerve and BOOM! I think you are right to say we should not compare our pain to anyone else’s. TN is not the only condition called the suicide disease. For me I can tell you it is worse than dental, back/neck pain or broken limbs, torn ligaments. But in your face. Last thought.. It is important to remember that in the community for any condition like this you rarely hear from those that had successful medical treatment within a short timeframe because people are there out of desperation. Many of us have been treated successfully and are not in as much fear or despair but I am sure for anyone the experience will never leave you. No hate here 😊 just my opinion.
Thank you for sharing your personal perspective. Often times, these physical findings are not the actual cause of the pain. I have spoken with someone who had 9 surgeries and still has devastating pain. How is that possible if all of these physical findings were causing the pain? Others who have had surgery with no success and benefitted by a mindbody approach. This is a complex issue and no easy answer. For anyone with TN - see how the pain behaves before going under the knife. There are two assessments that evaluate how the pain behaves to see if it is consistent with a physical finding or more like brain created pain. www.PainFreeYou.com/start
@@PainFreeYou 9 surgeries should never be allowed to happen. But management through medication and other techniques are mainly successful and proven to work for the majority of patients before going anywhere near surgery, and a single surgery can be a huge success. I would NEVER suggest surgery without evidence of a physical interaction on an MRI. But the MRI is essential in obtaining confirmation as to whether surgery is an option to be considered. The MRI could reveal something else that is medically significant even life threatening and in need of urgent attention I am not writing off your approach or belittling the experience of the person you have spoken to - they are both valid - but I am suggesting not dismissing medical intervention (which does not always need to be surgery).
And I'm not writing off physical causes. I will say that most of the people who come to my work have usually completely exhausted the medical and medication routes. And we find that quite often the brains perception of danger is way more causative of the pain than any perceived structural flaw. My fast start playlist explains in depth if you wish to explore further. DansFastStart.com @@ianmorbey
I totally agree with the issues Ian that you have with Dan. My nerve is totally effected by cold. My medication however controls my SUNA. (A sub form of TN). Your lack of medical training Dan shows. My MRI shows a blood vessel on the nerve and anti-convulsants totally work. Also very commonly TN sufferers can go into remission. Also commonly sufferers have great outcomes with medication. Diagnosis is by MRI scan and responses to medication as a diagnosis. You are wrong to imply that neurologists can't diagnose. It's incredible that you can make a video basically telling people with TN that they are imagining it. I am enraged.
Just to say… your friend needs to sue someone because I have NEVER heard of ANYONE having more than 3 surgeries for TN. I can’t even understand that. There are 110% tests to show why people have TN. I’ve come across people who have had the surgery and were still going OK for over 20+ years. Also, TN can go into remission for years. You can have stress, life and everything and not have TN pain. I have multiple sclerosis and it’s call relapsing remitting. We can go decades without any issues. It’s all the same!! Honestly, I know your goal is trying to help people but I’m not quite sure why you’re saying things that are simply not true… I know potassium is a huge trigger for me. No amount of mind body connection and will make that not be a thing. Sometimes, it is what it is. You don’t need to move across country but if you have pain with inflammation, don’t eat junk food. That causes pain. That is medically proven. Diet drinks, processed foods and sugar cause inflammation which cause nerve pain. Certain foods, normal “healthy “ foods increase nerve pain. Normal healthy foods decrease nerve pain. We can’t say it’s all in our head because there are A MILLION OTHER FACTORS.
Nothing in any of my videos suggests "it's all in your head". The pain is all very real. I explain the cause of pain and what to do about it here: DansFastStart.com I have several TN success stories here: PainFreeYouSuccess.com This stuff works.
Thank you SO much for bringing up the topic of Trigeminal Neuralgia. I was diagnosed with it about 10 years ago. Since starting Curable and following you, I've seen a lot of success. I.was on the highest dose of different medications and was able to cut them in half. I believe there's hope too. 😄
This is fantastic Vicki. Once you get clarity on the cause (TMS) and work to soothe your fears and shift focus back to life, the brain gets the message. Really appreciate you sharing your experience. So helpful for others.
@@PainFreeYou Thanks for replying, Dan. I agree with everything you said. That's how I've been able to ease my pain... by soothing and calming my fears and anxiety. It's definitely not an overnight thing, especially in the case of TN because of all the horrible discouraging messages out there concerning it. I quit following a couple of Facebook pages for that reason.. It was like watching depressing news all the time. I hope to get back to you again in the near future to let you know that I decrease torque with my medicine altogether. My heart goes out to my friends with trigeminal neuralgia. It's no joke, but there is HOPE. 🌞
@@vickidvorak6344 please keep updating us, I'm also a trigeminal neuralgia sufferer mostly started with surgery and some stressful infection that followed. I've also reduced meds slightly the last week or so after starting to believe the mind body thing. I would love to get off them too.
Accurate knowledge will help to minimize the fear. Learn how pain really works. My fast start playlist will explain what is going on and what to do about it. DansFastStart.com The fact that heat makes things hurt more is evidence that perceived danger is involved in your pain. Take the FIT assessment on this page to see if your brain is creating the pain based on the perception of danger. www.PainFreeYou.com/start
Darsluck. The fear is very real. I feel the same as you. TN pain is so different. I have had slipped discs, sciatica, 3 babies, broken bones, etc etc. TN pain is very very different
It is nonsense if people are getting better? Three trigeminal neuralgia success stories: th-cam.com/video/vRML9jPr_kw/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/qOZArhsNdi4/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/_vZ5nfJ2aa4/w-d-xo.html My fast start playlist explains the true cause of pain and what to do about it. DansFastStart.com
sending prayers to all who suffer from this xo
Thank you Rhonda
I only found this video a week ago and since then I've been bombarding myself with your videos, I was in total dispare and in so much pain and already I'm so much better . I left the TN groups , they are so unhelpful, every word they use is negative,
I sent off for Dr Sarnos book and have just started it this morning
I believe I can do this, with the help of you and your channel xx
Wonderful. I can assure you, you ARE in the right place. This video on recovery from fear spells out so much: th-cam.com/video/VSmTe8zPXh0/w-d-xo.html
Hey how are you?
Mine is labeled as glossopharyngeal neuralgia, a TN sibling. Also known as the suicidal disease. It is a heavy label and the fact that there is very few success story in TMS community scares me sometimes. I am trying to forget this label. Mine started after surgery and I know the body heals but the perceived danger remains. I have learned that the brain interprets facial body part as very important and that is why the sensation can be overwhelming, especially if it is non stop. Thanks God we have your videos to support us and make this journey lighter.
Mine also started after the lipoma removal which was located on my upper spine. It has been a huge journey for me but the worrior in me remains positive and I am trying to reprogram myself. I believe our body has the capacity to heal itself and I am using the visualisation to be in perfect health again. 🙏💓
I’ve been wondering what causes it
You are right.. I used to be a tn patient.. i successfully ignored it years ago, I literally decided I wanted to live my life. And believe me I have been having extreme pain and often thought I’d rather die than that pain. I had been suffering from very early age… 15.. Spirituality has helped me. Believing is seeing. Not the other way around. People who have limiting subconscious beliefs around what causes the pain, a good way is change your beliefs with night time targeted affirmations (playing at night very low volume while sleeping so they can get into the subconscious mind)
Do you have any affirmation videos you suggest?
What you say here is extremely important. Our beliefs are so powerful in the physical world. In a Course in Miracles, it is stated that although most people would argue that they only believe it because they see it/experience it, a greater truth is that you can only see/experience what you believe. (ACIM Chapter 11 VI. 1.: " It is impossible not to believe what you see, but it is equally impossible to see what you do not believe Perceptions are built up on the basis of experience, and experience leads to beliefs. It is not until beliefs are fixed that perceptions stabilize. In effect, then, what you believe you do see." Everything you experience in the world of form comes from the mind. Not just pain. Everything is a projection of the mind according to ACIM, Nisargadatta, Ramana Maharshi, Robert Adams, etc. Thus, all solutions to every problem come from fixing the mind's beliefs. The spiritual masters all say that the physical world itself is an illusion of mind. So obviously the conscious and subconscious mind determines our experience in this world. This lines up perfectly with Dan's mind approach to pain.
Mine came on after Botox for migraines. I believe a nerve was damaged then but not now! I also was hit in the head with a window & had a huge structural issue that wasn’t fixed until 2 years later. It was a very, very dark time in my life. I did a tapping recently that was letting go of the diagnosis. You are right as society makes us believe it’s a death sentence! Suicide disease! I belong to no more TN groups! They are too depressing! But letting go of this diagnosis is a piece of my puzzle that was never dealt with. My ATN didn’t go away after my huge C1/C2 craniotomy surgery but it has lessened up at times. It went full blast with the death of my dogs, both my parents, adult children issues, & chronic health issues with my dog now. I so know it’s TMS even having 4 levels of fusion in my neck & little motion. Everything heals! Doubt is deadly! We must take our power back and say NO to all this other BS! Time, repetition, belief, & letting go of all the fear and doubt will get me to where I need to be again! Thanks Dan!!! I will be pain free! Little by little I’m making progress and learning a lot about myself!
Awesome - Thank you for sharing your experience.
Omg I’m going for Botox for migraine now and might just not do it - so scared
I saw a video of Dr Schubiner doing a session with a young woman who has this condition. She was having pain and he worked with her and her pain dissipated in the session. She was overwhelmed with emotion. He prepared her that more work would need to be done and that the pain would return. But she now saw that she could actually calm down the reactivity and get relief.. it was powerful to watch.
Could you provide the link to the video? Thanks!!
Schubiner is awesome.
@@jauhochang5030 I would if I had it! I saw it as part of a group discussion held online by Dr David Hanscom. If I can get the link from him I will be happy to share it. it was very emotional and powerful to watch this young woman experience relief because Dr Schubiner was so skilled at helping her feel safe and understand how pain is the brain's interpretation of experience and context. I will email and see if that link is available to share.
@@lindaelarde2692 Thank you very much!
Wow, thank you for sharing that..I would love to see that as well..🙏🏼☺️
On page 88 of the Mindbody Prescription, John Sarno stated the following: "A number of years ago I had an episode of dental nerve pain that could not be explained. After suffering it for a few months, I was looking at anatomical drawings of the nervous system with patients one day when I came upon a particularly vivid depiction of the nerve supply to the teeth, branches of the fifth nerve, and immediately wondered if the dental pain might be TMS of the trigeminal nerve. I concluded that it was - and the pain was gone in less than forty-eight hours. This is an example of the therapeutic power of awareness as will be described in Part III of this book." I know Sarno did not suffer from full-blown TN, but he did experience some trigeminal nerve pain issues related to his teeth and solved them himself using his own approach. I figured it would be useful here to point that out.
Yes, thank you for sharing that. Really important information. I appreciate you.
Dan I had severe boughts of this type of pain for years off and and on it only comes during stressful times…when it does I tell my brain to stop this it’s not helping me and it vanishes completely…I wish this approach would work with rest of my issues ..
It can work. What was different about your mindset, fear, frustration on that pain compared to your current?
This is so great, thank you Dan. I heard you briefly mention TN in a more recent video and it gave me an aha moment. I realised my dear friend’s husband had been diagnosed with this and has undergone 2 operations. She said they haven’t been a success. So I looked for more in-depth discussion about it and this video came up. I have reached out to her just now to see if she would be open to a different approach and way of seeing it. She simply said ‘maybe’. I think that’s all I can do for now. But if she would like to know more, I’ll let her know about this video and your content.
Thank you for all you do for this community, Dan.
Kind regards from Dianne in Melbourne 💐
Thank you for sharing the information. This success story may be helpful for your friends husband too. th-cam.com/video/vRML9jPr_kw/w-d-xo.html
In my experience, TN is created in the brain. If it was physical, the surgeries would have succeeded.
Thank you for your kind reply, Dan. And thank you for sharing the link to the TN success story. I was going to search for that today, but you saved me the time. My friend did reply saying I could send some information, but had been on many roads to healing, all to no avail. I mentioned she may not have come across this avenue yet…
I agree if the surgeries were going to make a difference, they should have by now.
Thank you again and please keep up your vital work.
Best wishes again from me 💐
Just got this diagnosis 😢 crying my face off! My tn is wild, I pull teeth out because the pain is so bad. I’m 35 I’m out of teeth just about 😭😭😭😭😭
I appreciate this video Dan thank you so much I will watch over and over and over and over!!! Xo
It's the terrified brain that creates the pain and keeps it going. Your body healed.
Watch my fast start playlist over and over. And implement too. DansFastStart.com
You can get well.
Two success stories:
th-cam.com/video/vRML9jPr_kw/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/qOZArhsNdi4/w-d-xo.html
How is it going
@@Leonschulze06hardest thing I’ve ever gone through! BUT… my pain is down to a 0-1 daily! I started reading the book THE WAY OUT by Alan Gordon AMAZING!!! I learned techniques that have saved me! I started this thing called the doc journey also helped! I hired a neuroplastic mind body psychologist and ya I’m almost out if pain ❤❤❤❤
I binged dans videos as well ❤❤🎉🎉
@@sparkely1122can we maybe connect? Do you have instagram
@@sparkely1122really happy for you
Nicole Sachs had a fantastic TN success story in her book ‘The meaning of truth’
Thank you.
I have no doubt that TN is caused by the brain. I have seen improvement in mine since I started doing DNRS. It's not gone yet but it's definitely gotten way better. Still working on the cold / wind exposure and other triggers that set it off. But the general pain I get is down. I think you are spot on with the coming and going of symptoms, as that is a great indicator to me that it's brain related.
I have chronic pain in so many parts of my body that the only logical explanation to me is that it's caused by the brain. It just doesn't make sense that I would be truly physically damaged in so many parts of my body (face, knees, shoulders, wrists, tendons, back etc.). The simplest explanation is that it's caused by the brain.
Thank you for sharing your insight. Based on your description, it definitely sounds like TMS / Brain created. Take the pain test to see for sure. DaBuglio.com/paintest
A score of 29 or higher is TMS and can be eliminated.
If you want help with a program to teach your brain to turn off the symptoms, check out PainFreeYou.com/join for details.
The pain is maddening, colours your view on everyday life. A good cry makes it worse.
No one knows the pain unless they have it. This guy has no clue. More painful than anything imaginable
I've been talking to my brain very, very hard and consistently... please make something work. I can take this much longer. It is torture!!!
I feel my own difference when I use mind control. I have been using the mind control Siri I have been using the mind control theory for two years now and I see improvements but mostly I see improvements because I left Florida, the tropics where the Heat and the sun were killing me
I believe every word this man speaks about
Definitely it is TMS, i had it , it started after a discussion with my ex boss, very significative because never had it before. I was very frustrated with that woman and i wanted to tell her many ugly things, but i never expressed what i felt to her, and the real thing is that i hated her so much. She still treats her employees like robots and tramples them because the only thing she matters is 💸. the worst person i ever met.
I agree. Totally TMS. The fact is started after a conversation is proof. :-)
@@PainFreeYou yes, my TMS really started before that conversation with back and neck pain for the same reason. I was feeling very bad on that job. That conversation was the trigger of the facial nerve symptom. Luckily i finished that work after that hahha.
Have a nice day 🍀🌈😜
There's a lady on all.news with this today awaiting so called operation on veins wrapped around nerves which will last between two to ten years if it's mechanical how will it only help this.my friend has this and gets worker cold is trigger and under stress
..Just came across this video. Are there other neurologic symptoms (like dystonia) that seem to be "owned" by neurologists, that are really explained by MBS? Very frustrating. Thanks for the videos; I just joined the groups.
Dystonia can definitely be caused by the brain. MBS Perceived danger is the cause in my belief. th-cam.com/video/tnU6KBAv5fg/w-d-xo.html
Take the assessments to see what's going on in your situation:
www.PainFreeYou.com/start
I have trigeminal neuralgia. All day most days with a gap of maximum maybe 1 hour. I do have an issue there sadly that can cause these symtoms but I am still going with the opinion that a good deal of them are down to stress and overthinking about the pain. Im a little bit better these last few weeks watching your videos so thanks for all your efforts :)
Hi Dan, long time listener and follower of the ethos. I have personally helped so many of my chronic pain and nervous system conditions from this work and brain retraining. My question is for multiple sclerosis; where there is demyelination on the nerve, do you think this can be treated by TMS type mindset as well? My Mum is really struggling with TN and is hesitant to do this work because she sees it as permanent damage. I was interested on your thoughts on this?
If by TN you mean Trigeminal Neuralgia, yes, this work can absolutely help. Regarding MS - that may not be as cut and dry. However, I do believe that a scared brain that thinks we are broken creates symptoms. The more perceived danger, the more pronounced the symptoms are. If the MS was diagnosed by imaging studies, to me, that proves the physical state of the body. The symptoms and the intensity of them may still able to be influenced regardless. My take is that there is literally no downside and only benefit to teaching our brains we are not damaged.
th-cam.com/video/g5xWR6eBlb8/w-d-xo.html
I was cured by Sarno 30 years ago and I've been a Mind Body guy ever since. So I don't take issue with your conclusion, but as a scientist, I can tell you the main reason it is difficult to get structuralists or anyone else to accept a 'TMS' diagnosis--it is the lack of scientific study and explanation of tms-aos-psychogenic disorders. I pushed back against Sarno even 30 yrs ago, and he had no response back then (fortunately, I was able to accept that my pain was psychogenic). Some progress has been made by folks like Schubiner etc and related concepts like centralized sensitization, but it is not enough IMO. Until we get a better understanding of how 'TMS' works in the context of specific conditions (why the trigeminal, for example?) it will be a huge struggle to get many people to accept a psychogenic explanation.
Maybe this is what im experiencing in my teeth and gums. I had no such pain before my wisdom teeth surgery and then once i did have it then BAM! Pain in my gums and teeth. Dentists can't figure out what's wrong. I needed the surgery but damn i wish my mouth was like it was before.
Perceived Danger Pain is likely the issue. (TMS) Watch the fast start playlist to learn the most common cause of pain, how to tell if this is what is going on with you and, what to do about it. DansFastStart.com
I'm so emotional that I can't even talk!!!
Please help me 😢 I've had two brain surgeries and one RFA procedure and nothing worked!!!! No, the hot weather is bad for my face!!!!
Thank you for this video, and I agree with you.
Got a little on my right side right now...utterly frustrating
Hey Johnny - it's all perceived danger. Frustration confirms the danger. Focus on safety. DansFastStart.com for ideas.
None that I know of. I only have a few intermittent days according to the weather 😢
To make it clearer because when you say fear drives symptoms is general without an example laid out clearly . If her pain went away for months which I would literally give a limb for and when the cold hit came back it’s because she associated the pain with the cold period cold =pain in her brain. TN is not aggravated by cold nerves LOVE the cold because it reduces inflammation what nerves actually don’t like is the heat which raises it. Muscles love the heat which is telling as to what may be causing this problem. I have it but i hate the label so u don’t identify with it however regardless of the mind body connection there is actual physiology and what I just said exists in all materials that talk about nerves. Cold nor heat either way affects my issue if I’m flaring in flaring period otherwise I’m chronically feeling it constantly at a lower level. If it goes away for months it isn’t pathological it’s TMS without a doubt. It’s hard to know whether it is or isn’t so I just keep doing this work hoping.
I guess there is always an exception to rules and theories. For the first 10 or so years of Trigeminal neuralgia, holding something cold in my mouth actually made me feel temporarily better but cold air still caused pain. Then suddenly, anything cold in my mouth started causing pain. For years I had the expectation that cold would help me feel better. I had to almost completely eliminate food cooler than room temperature. Sometimes I had to resort to nothing colder than luke warm. It all depends on how angry my nerve is. In my particular case, I knew very little about TN and the typical symptoms for the first 5 or so years, yet I had them. I know of many in my support group who get relief from ice packs. I'm not hating on your mind-body-pain theories but I am sure you can understand how a person with an invisible illness that is "all in their head", and often not believed by the medical community could have a cringy reaction to your explanation of why we have TN pain. I often find myself in pain and have to stop and assess what I might have been doing or exposed myself to that could have triggered the pain. Therefore, I don't think it is anticipation or fear of pain that has told me I am in pain. And conversely I have often been in situations that would usually cause pain, yet, I don't have pain or the intensity of pain that I have had under similar circumstances. I was diagnosed in 1999, over the years I learned to very carefully think about what I had been doing or what conditions were prior to an increase in pain. I have used this self monitoring to decide if I want to altar my behavior to avoid increasing the likelihood of more pain. Best wishes and I sincerely hope that your methods are helpful to those in need.
You are talking sense. I manage my symptoms well with medication and avoiding the triggers. Cold wind, and changes of temperature are my triggers. As you say the pain can come suddenly even when I am not stressed so I don't believe that stress causes it. Good luck to you.
It's not all in your head. Trigeminal neuralgia is a nervous system issue. Your nervous system, like everyone else on this page, is dysregulated. This causes real pain. All pain ultimately comes from nerves, whether there is a physical/structural cause or a psychogenic cause. Nobody knows exactly why the nervous system does what it does. Some people have worse pain than others, and in different areas of the body. But for the most part, overactive and dysregulated nerves are related to emotional stress and fear. They can be either a distraction mechanism to avoid the emotions and/or a fear mechanism. You even say that your pain depends on how angry your nerve is. Angry nerves are not a physical thing. It is not a symptom of a brain disease. Because your pain is not due to an actual injury to a bone or muscle or other physical part of your body, and is not a brain disease, you can impact how your nervous system reacts through the techniques taught by Dan and others like him. You are not totally at the mercy of your dysregulated nervous system, unless you believe you are. Your beliefs are very powerful to your nervous system. Your ego likes to keep you distracted and under its control, and one way to do that is with pain. It is very effective. It works on me also. But at the end of the day, I realize there is nothing really wrong with my brain or nerves. They are not damaged. They are dysregulated. Dysregulated nerves are not going to behave predictably unfortunately. So you won't always be able to point to a specific psychological/stress trigger. But most likely your mind itself is under stress. I know mine is. The unpredictability of the pain itself keeps the mind under constant stress. It is a vicious cycle. I don't think most people suffering from the type of pain Dan deals with can say with a straight face that their minds are calm, happy, and emotionally stress free. I would describe myself as a "nervous wreck" much of the time. Almost all of us here have unconscious (or conscious) emotional stress we have not dealt with, as well as fear of our bodies/nerves. I seriously doubt there is any exception to this. I guess if you were a football player and have CTE from numerous concussions, you might be an exception. I just wanted to respond to this post because your post might trigger doubt in someone who is using this approach to heal themselves, and that doubt could delay their recovery. That's how powerful our beliefs are. I would not want any person reading these messages to think that they might be an exception to the rule. They are almost certainly not.
@@othervideos4002 Thank you for your comments. Perhaps I am not sure what dysregulated means in relationship to a blood vessel and artery pressing and pulsing against my Trigeminal Nerve. This is a physical reality. Does dysregulation apply to the nerve pain caused by broken bone? I am not being sarcastic or mean any disrespect. I don't know how disregulation applies to pain caused by a physical condition. My comments were not in any way meant to discourage anyone from pursuing helpful methods of reducing their pain. I was merely describing my situation. Believe me I would love to return to being a fully functioning human being but that is not in the cards for me and many others who have what is nicknamed, "The Suicide Disease."
@@marlainehysell5989 I understand what you are saying. A broken bone is definitely physical. However, if it were me I would not resign myself to believe that a pulsing blood vessel against a nerve is causing my pain. If you have read all of Sarno's books, you will come to the conclusion that doctors often times do not know why someone is in pain and will just look at a scan and determine something on the scan is causing the pain, like a bulging disc, just to provide an answer. I would try Dan's/Sarno's techniques to see if they would help. At least read Sarno's books. They have helped me greatly with headaches and neck pain, including occipital pain that most doctors would likely say is occipital neuralgia. At least that's what I thought it was based on tons of google research. I don't believe that anymore. For over a year, I had a severe occipital/tension headache. No amount of ibuprofen would put a dent into it. As of about 8 years ago, I am no longer in constant pain. After a year of counseling, meditating, breathing, changing my attitudes toward myself and life, and reading Sarno, my constant pain gradually went away. No surgery, no medicine. But my pain flares up here and there. I have to keep my mind calm or I will be back in pain. That's why I watch Dan's videos. It's a good reminder for me. Anyway, I pray and hope for the best for you. I would give Dan and Sarno a shot here. There is also a book I read called the Presence Process by Michael Brown that might help you. He had what he describes as very similar to trigeminal neuralgia and he solved it. It is a good read.
@@marlainehysell5989 I just read your comment. If it is a pulsating blood vessel and/or artery pushing against your nerve is creating the pain, how would cold or warm food in your mouth affect that? No way the temperature of the food in your mouth could change your trigeminal nerve location, or your blood vessel and artery location, or how hard your blood pumps. If that's what doctors told you, I don't think they are right. I'm not saying your are wrong, it just doesn't sound like the cause to me.
I've had daily facial pain for the last 7 months. I'm scared to go to the neurologist because I don't want the TN label. I feel so hopeless and I want the Mind Body approach to help me but I feel like there aren't many success stories out there. I've been working on this for the last 2 months and I think it's improved my mental state somewhat but the pain remains. I feel hopeless and I'm not sure which way to go. I'm pregnant and I'm worried I'm putting this stress on my baby.
I have two trigeminal neuralgia success stories on my channel. TN is definitely TMS / Perceived Danger Pain.
th-cam.com/users/PainFreeYousearch?query=trigeminal
@@PainFreeYou Thank you Dan! I'll take a look
There is no need to fear this please get it looked at by a doctor and/or neurologist too alongside exploring TMS. It might not even be TN and avoiding a neurologist completely is not the answer. By all means look into TMS but exploring all your options is in your own self interest.
It is simply not possible to prove that all cases of TN are definitely TMS / perceived danger pain even if some cases are.
That is a vast sweeping statement For these two success stories there are many many more success stories from different types of medical intervention.
I am of the opinion that it is best to look at all angles so you can make an informed decision.
My neurologist has controlled my pain for 5 years medically. I have been to UK nationL TN conferences and there are many more success stories than not. Don't be afraid to see a doctor. Good luck
@@clairepalmer8718what does your doctor have you on? My neurologist just gave me carbamazepine. Haven’t started it yet as my pain is very TMJ related with neuropathy in my head. All right side.
You are talking about cold as a trigger but, no!!! Hot weather is my main trigger!!!!
It is any kind of atmosphere, sensory change. 😢
I get mild facial pain and mild tmj issues on and off.... Is it also tms
Yes
Definitely
I've been living my life the best I can but it hurts!!! THERE IS NO HOPE. YOU JUST WANT MONEY!! I HAVE NO MONEY ANTMORE BECAUSE I AM DEFISTATED BY TN. My life needs to be over 😮
I'm sorry you are going through such a tough time. But let's be clear, I don't want money. I have posted 1650 videos about chronic pain and other chronic conditions. Hundreds of hours of content which I spent many thousands of hours making this content. All for free. Many people are getting well by watching and implementing my free video content. You can too. A great place to begin to understand the cause of pain and what to do about it is my fast start playlist. It's free. DansFastStart.com
I’ve been suffering from intense earache, face pain and headache out of no where for the past 3 months. The pain position keeps moving and I even start to get very weird sensations on my face and head, like cold/warm water running down. The doctor has no clue. Is this TMS?
It sounds like it. Take the pain test to see for sure. DaBuglio.com/paintest
A score of 29 or higher is TMS and can be eliminated.
If you want help with a program to teach your brain to turn off the symptoms, check out PainFreeYou.com/join for details.
MRI will eliminate anything. Doctor cant see in your head. Very hard to put your mind at rest and start TMS work until you are sure.
@@suzyswain402 Yes MRI of the head comes back normal. I need to learnt o put my mind at ease.
@@PainFreeYou Thanks Dan. I did the test and got a score of 33. I think this is good news, even though won't be easy. I need to count on myself not the doctors to recover.
@@yandu9361 if they have checked in your head it certainly sounds like there isn't anything wrong. Great news. I wish you luck with your TMS work. I have trigeminal neuralgia and have had a big reduction in symtoms since I started thinking of it as stress induced pain. I have some similar symtoms to you too. Cold on forehead, a dripping feeling down my left eye lid and down my nose and crawling sensations, terrible pain. The only other thing that I should mention to you is I've noticed recently medication from doc is making the sensations and pain worse, I'm slowly reducing. I dont know if you recently started any meds.
I will preface this by saying I am a sufferer of TN successfully controlled with anti seizure medication which normalises the neuron flow in the sodium channels to the nerve.
few things I disagree with.
You imply that there is no understanding in the medical arena and that no scan can find a cause and I do find this a little disingenuous. TN is most often the result of a blood vessel or artery causing a compression on the nerve but can be caused by a tumour, lesions, MS. and other physical issues.
You mention there is no medical success yet plenty of patients are successfully helped with medical intervention be it surgery, acupuncture, cbd therapy, medication, nerve blocks, Botox. Most patients on the right combination of medication find relief but you tend to only hear the horror stories.
You mention no scan can find a cause. An MRI can detect both any compression of the nerve and/or any other more life threatening conditions causing the pain. I would encourage anyone to seek out a physical cause first before writing it off as such because it could save your life with the added bonus of helping your pain even if my opinion on TN is wrong.
The triggers and symptoms make perfect sense if there is a physical interaction with the nerve.
A few things I do agree though
Fear plays a huge part in a period when it is active and that the brain tells us we are in danger which probably ramps up the symptoms and triggers - stress is a big trigger for some.
Maybe the anxiety causes stress, the stress causes higher blood pressure, the blood vessel responds comes into contact with the nerve and BOOM!
I think you are right to say we should not compare our pain to anyone else’s. TN is not the only condition called the suicide disease. For me I can tell you it is worse than dental, back/neck pain or broken limbs, torn ligaments. But in your face.
Last thought.. It is important to remember that in the community for any condition like this you rarely hear from those that had successful medical treatment within a short timeframe because people are there out of desperation. Many of us have been treated successfully and are not in as much fear or despair but I am sure for anyone the experience will never leave you.
No hate here 😊 just my opinion.
Thank you for sharing your personal perspective. Often times, these physical findings are not the actual cause of the pain. I have spoken with someone who had 9 surgeries and still has devastating pain. How is that possible if all of these physical findings were causing the pain? Others who have had surgery with no success and benefitted by a mindbody approach. This is a complex issue and no easy answer. For anyone with TN - see how the pain behaves before going under the knife. There are two assessments that evaluate how the pain behaves to see if it is consistent with a physical finding or more like brain created pain. www.PainFreeYou.com/start
@@PainFreeYou 9 surgeries should never be allowed to happen. But management through medication and other techniques are mainly successful and proven to work for the majority of patients before going anywhere near surgery, and a single surgery can be a huge success.
I would NEVER suggest surgery without evidence of a physical interaction on an MRI. But the MRI is essential in obtaining confirmation as to whether surgery is an option to be considered. The MRI could reveal something else that is medically significant even life threatening and in need of urgent attention
I am not writing off your approach or belittling the experience of the person you have spoken to - they are both valid - but I am suggesting not dismissing medical intervention (which does not always need to be surgery).
And I'm not writing off physical causes. I will say that most of the people who come to my work have usually completely exhausted the medical and medication routes. And we find that quite often the brains perception of danger is way more causative of the pain than any perceived structural flaw. My fast start playlist explains in depth if you wish to explore further. DansFastStart.com @@ianmorbey
I totally agree with the issues Ian that you have with Dan. My nerve is totally effected by cold. My medication however controls my SUNA. (A sub form of TN). Your lack of medical training Dan shows. My MRI shows a blood vessel on the nerve and anti-convulsants totally work. Also very commonly TN sufferers can go into remission. Also commonly sufferers have great outcomes with medication. Diagnosis is by MRI scan and responses to medication as a diagnosis. You are wrong to imply that neurologists can't diagnose. It's incredible that you can make a video basically telling people with TN that they are imagining it. I am enraged.
Just to say… your friend needs to sue someone because I have NEVER heard of ANYONE having more than 3 surgeries for TN. I can’t even understand that.
There are 110% tests to show why people have TN. I’ve come across people who have had the surgery and were still going OK for over 20+ years.
Also, TN can go into remission for years. You can have stress, life and everything and not have TN pain. I have multiple sclerosis and it’s call relapsing remitting. We can go decades without any issues. It’s all the same!!
Honestly, I know your goal is trying to help people but I’m not quite sure why you’re saying things that are simply not true…
I know potassium is a huge trigger for me. No amount of mind body connection and will make that not be a thing.
Sometimes, it is what it is. You don’t need to move across country but if you have pain with inflammation, don’t eat junk food. That causes pain. That is medically proven. Diet drinks, processed foods and sugar cause inflammation which cause nerve pain.
Certain foods, normal “healthy “ foods increase nerve pain. Normal healthy foods decrease nerve pain. We can’t say it’s all in our head because there are A MILLION OTHER FACTORS.
Nothing in any of my videos suggests "it's all in your head". The pain is all very real. I explain the cause of pain and what to do about it here: DansFastStart.com
I have several TN success stories here: PainFreeYouSuccess.com
This stuff works.
I need a video on pelvic floor symptoms…😢
It's all TMS - but I'll try to tackle that one in the next couple days.
@@PainFreeYou that would be AWESOME! I can’t wait! 🥰😘
Crazy how the friggin brain works! " I AM NOT BROKEN"! What a Lovely day today Dan. Beyond thankful for your videos. 🙏
Happy to help!
Sometimes the top of my head get numb...🤔
It's all just TMS. Unless you're on your 5th whiskey...
@@PainFreeYou ...most likely my ponytail TO TIGHT Under My Hat while playing pickle ball..
Yes
Thank you SO much for bringing up the topic of Trigeminal Neuralgia. I was diagnosed with it about 10 years ago. Since starting Curable and following you, I've seen a lot of success. I.was on the highest dose of different medications and was able to cut them in half. I believe there's hope too. 😄
This is fantastic Vicki. Once you get clarity on the cause (TMS) and work to soothe your fears and shift focus back to life, the brain gets the message. Really appreciate you sharing your experience. So helpful for others.
@@PainFreeYou Thanks for replying, Dan. I agree with everything you said. That's how I've been able to ease my pain... by soothing and calming my fears and anxiety. It's definitely not an overnight thing, especially in the case of TN because of all the horrible discouraging messages out there concerning it. I quit following a couple of Facebook pages for that reason.. It was like watching depressing news all the time. I hope to get back to you again in the near future to let you know that I decrease torque with my medicine altogether. My heart goes out to my friends with trigeminal neuralgia. It's no joke, but there is HOPE. 🌞
I wish TH-cam would let you edit your responses. Hahaha. I have no idea where a couple of those words came from in my last post!
@@vickidvorak6344 please keep updating us, I'm also a trigeminal neuralgia sufferer mostly started with surgery and some stressful infection that followed. I've also reduced meds slightly the last week or so after starting to believe the mind body thing. I would love to get off them too.
then tell me how the f*** do I get rid of the fear MF!
Accurate knowledge will help to minimize the fear. Learn how pain really works. My fast start playlist will explain what is going on and what to do about it. DansFastStart.com
The fact that heat makes things hurt more is evidence that perceived danger is involved in your pain. Take the FIT assessment on this page to see if your brain is creating the pain based on the perception of danger. www.PainFreeYou.com/start
Try energy healing for pain and energy healing. There are many free on utube.
Darsluck. The fear is very real. I feel the same as you. TN pain is so different. I have had slipped discs, sciatica, 3 babies, broken bones, etc etc. TN pain is very very different
Goose! He doesn't have TN and his telling us about it!
Stop your nonsense
It is nonsense if people are getting better?
Three trigeminal neuralgia success stories:
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My fast start playlist explains the true cause of pain and what to do about it.
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Dan why am I watching this and now having insane fear that I’m going to get it 🥹🥹🥹
Don't listen to those stories. And don't spend time researching or learning about symptoms that you DO NOT HAVE.
Don't believe your thoughts.
@@PainFreeYouis it obvious I have TMS? 😂. I need to join your group!