Is the Cheshire cat a Villain or Hero?

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  • @kekebean6596
    @kekebean6596 ปีที่แล้ว +202

    He's just Cheshire. He does what he wants, either it helps people, or he just does things his own way. He's just a silly lil guy. Love him or hate him.

    • @HatBoxGhost94
      @HatBoxGhost94  ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Very well put!

    • @forrestdupre87
      @forrestdupre87 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@HatBoxGhost94 not according to the book

    • @nataliawashington872
      @nataliawashington872 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@forrestdupre87what’s he like in the book?

    • @forrestdupre87
      @forrestdupre87 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@nataliawashington872 annoying

    • @forrestdupre87
      @forrestdupre87 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@nataliawashington872you should read the book. There are a lot more scenes and characters.

  • @mherheangiray9523
    @mherheangiray9523 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    He is just a jokester who just like to have fun. But is actually kind hearted. He just looks scary to some people, especially some kids. That's why. In all honesty he should not be considered s villain. Love the Cheshire cat

    • @Agent-57
      @Agent-57 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He is the reason Alice gets into so much trouble.

  • @crazyloverofcats
    @crazyloverofcats ปีที่แล้ว +123

    Cheshire Cat is more chaotic neutral, than anything else. He does what he wants on his own time and in his own way.

    • @HatBoxGhost94
      @HatBoxGhost94  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Very well put, Crazyloverofcats!

    • @whimsyoni
      @whimsyoni 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      hes basically loki 😭😭

    • @larsthemartian9554
      @larsthemartian9554 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, he's pretty much a prime example of chaotic neutral

    • @TarotistPlagueDoctor
      @TarotistPlagueDoctor หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He want to help Alice in his own chaotic way. 😹

  • @humphrex
    @humphrex 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    CHAOTIC NEUTRAL. looks like a villain to extremes

  • @sapphirewriter8349
    @sapphirewriter8349 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    There is also indeed another Disney Cheshire Cat that not many people know about and that's from the 1992-1995 series called "Adventures in Wonderland". The Cheshire Cat in that series is mostly mischievous but like everyone else in the series, he's not really considered a villain (All the residents in Wonderland in this version are friends to Alice, even the Queen who isn't a villain either, she's just spoiled with a temper.). However, the Cheshire Cat in the series can be a jerk sometimes that may play a prank for the fun of it or even out of payback since he's not always welcomed by the other residents. The only ones that mainly respect him are Alice and the Tweedles.

    • @CatKun-2000
      @CatKun-2000 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hmmm I wonder of the cat from RWBY v9 counts

  • @SubSpaceKing
    @SubSpaceKing ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The villain, at least in the animated version, would be the Queen of Hearts.

  • @astrolord4325
    @astrolord4325 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I consider him to be a Guide. For Alice specifically. In both movies, he directly or indirectly helps in her journey with help of his mad personality.

  • @DandyDan03
    @DandyDan03 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    he's chaotic neutral

  • @Vol-Tear
    @Vol-Tear ปีที่แล้ว +32

    The long and short of it is that specifically the Pink and Purple one (the version that Disney seems to consider as a villain) is as we would say, a Shit Stirrer, he lead allice to the queen knowing what she is like, then sabotaged the game of croquet to get the queen railed up and unleash her wrath on Alice, then they stir the pot more in the court room until it boiled over.
    The Grey ones is just a straight up hero
    Still love both Cheshire cats ;p one maybe an ass but so are actual cats is just instead of pushing ur drink off the side they get you in trouble with royalty ;p

    • @HatBoxGhost94
      @HatBoxGhost94  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Very well said! I have to agree with you’ every word!

    • @Vol-Tear
      @Vol-Tear ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@HatBoxGhost94 thanks, and congrats on the 100 subs :)

    • @jordischouteren6725
      @jordischouteren6725 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Did you have to insult innocent real-life cats?

  • @spriken
    @spriken 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Okay, that ending made me smile and earned a subscribe, use it well.

    • @HatBoxGhost94
      @HatBoxGhost94  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you kindly for your subscription and welcome to the Mansion!

    • @sollunadonis1995
      @sollunadonis1995 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@HatBoxGhost94 this is my first video of yours 😊

    • @HatBoxGhost94
      @HatBoxGhost94  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ thank you for joining the mansion! We hope you enjoy your stay!

  • @TamariBen
    @TamariBen 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Cheshire Cat Is A Hero To Me Because He Doesn't Be A Villain. 😀♥️

  • @JakeAtkinson43
    @JakeAtkinson43 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ive got a theory stuck in my head that the cheshire cat is basically a god fkn around

  • @StarBoy0204
    @StarBoy0204 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ll admit, I like the Tim Burton version of Cheshire Cat, the original purple version Winnie the Pooh like-voice always scares me, but the blue color on Cheshire really suits him well, along with the voice

  • @NK-tl3mn
    @NK-tl3mn ปีที่แล้ว +16

    He's no villain!

  • @alexandrawilson1998
    @alexandrawilson1998 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He should be considered a funny character and a jokester and in the animated version is helpful toward Alice when she wants to know how to find the queen of hearts

  • @AlonzoGarcia-f3f
    @AlonzoGarcia-f3f 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wouldn't call Cheshire cat a villain but at the of the 1951 movie Cheshire cat tells the queen of hearts what Alice said kinda snitching but Cheshire cat is not a villain

  • @cyan11_music
    @cyan11_music 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    They call him a villain because society (and by extension its institutions) villify thinking differently, abstractly, against the norm, and most of all they villify being more intelligent than most, because that threatens the very fabric of what they are trying to create. It is not random. There is a reason they would call him a villain, its called subliminal propaganda

    • @HatBoxGhost94
      @HatBoxGhost94  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@cyan11_music thank you for this detailed explanation!

  • @themisfitowl2595
    @themisfitowl2595 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As many have pointed out, the Cheshire Cat is pretty Chaotic Neutral most times. Though in the animated movie he did have one instance where he went full villain on Alice and deliberately got her in trouble with the Queen, who of course demanded Alice's head and this led to the trial sequence. That was Cheshire's fault.
    Cheshire: "You know, we could make her _really_ angry... shall we try?"
    Alice: "Oh no! Please no!"
    Cheshire: "Oh, but it's loads of fun..." (hooks the crochet mallet to lift up the Queen's dress, then disappears)
    Yeah, I'd say he can check off the villain box pretty easily. He may not be a dangerous villain, he just thrives on the chaos.

  • @o0vv0o
    @o0vv0o 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He did purposefully orchestrate the attempted execution of a little girl in the animated version from the 50s.

  • @grinningweirdo4888
    @grinningweirdo4888 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’d say the villain aspect goes more towards the 1951 version exclusively, as it’s not his nature or mannerisms that make him a villain it’s his actions, after directing Alice to the queen of hearts he ends up causing the queen to lose her temper leaving Alice to take the blame, then in the courtroom scene Cheshire causes a disturbance by freaking the dormouse out then when Alice shrinks after calling the Queen a ‘fat, pompous, bad tempered old tyrant’ Cheshire repeats what Alice called her causing the queen to yell ‘Off with her head’

    • @HatBoxGhost94
      @HatBoxGhost94  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Wow! Think you for this!

  • @crystalbeetham-bs1tl
    @crystalbeetham-bs1tl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Chessire Cat is a character that lets Alice make her own decisions he not much of a vilian ❤❤❤

  • @mossg28
    @mossg28 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ok, I have a theory that the Cheshire cat is secretly a hero and trying to wake up Alice the whole time! So on his first appearance of the movie he was helping and confusing Alice so she could wake up bc there's some people that can wake up confused; so the next appearance of him he was trying to upset the Queen and blame it on Alice so she can wake up frightened Although Alice never noticed it, that it how I like to see Cheshire cat,
    What do u think of this theory?
    👇
    Also I was explaining the cartoon Alice in wonderland lol

    • @HatBoxGhost94
      @HatBoxGhost94  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@mossg28 holy moly! That was an
      Amazing theory! Thank you for this!

    • @mossg28
      @mossg28 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@HatBoxGhost94 No problem I just thought of it a few days ago! :)

  • @ilikeboyzandicecream1234
    @ilikeboyzandicecream1234 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    he is what is called chaotic neutral

  • @caitlinnelson8974
    @caitlinnelson8974 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Cheshire cat is a fun cat and also if you seen the Thor movies he's kind of like Loki.😻and also he is not a bad cat

  • @seanmager1168
    @seanmager1168 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I dont think He's a REAL TRUE Hero Nor is he a dastardly VILE Villain. The Chesire Cat, By How he was Made By WonderLand's Magic, You can say he's pretty much Just following his Nature. Like the saying goes, "YOU DO YOU" That's What he's Doing i truly believe. He's not a bad-guy, But he's Not a Good-guy Either. He Just does what he Loves. Hes Just kinda playful.

  • @yawninginternally4219
    @yawninginternally4219 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    In my opinion I believe the Cheshire cat isn't evil or necessarily good I think he's a good example of a character who doesn't pick sides he is a character that mingles in the middle though he could be help to either side he doesn't or at least doesn't help in all the categories he could at least that's my take

  • @EvilMonstrous17
    @EvilMonstrous17 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i wouldn’t call him a villain but he not a hero either he just there to be a trickster and have fun that all
    fun fact: im going to be the cheshire cat in my school play of Alice in wonderland

    • @HatBoxGhost94
      @HatBoxGhost94  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@EvilMonstrous17 that’s sounds like it’s going to be a lot of fun! 🤩 congratulations on the part and have fun with it!

  • @indigomccoy6709
    @indigomccoy6709 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think since every video you showed from the park had the hand drawn Cheshire cat as opposed to the CGI Cheshire cat they don’t seem to consider Tim Burton's cat as a villain however the Hand drawn cat does take his jokes too far to the point of nearly getting Alice’s head chopped off. It’s the fact that he indeed does know the inner workings of wonderland and treats Alice like a play thing for him to trick and frame for his own fun even at her expense. While not a villain in the traditional sense I can see how he counts as a villain. Generally characters that chaotic who only seem to get the main character into trouble knowingly would count as a villain.

    • @HatBoxGhost94
      @HatBoxGhost94  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Very nice opinion!

  • @nghstudios65
    @nghstudios65 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Chaotic neutral, maybe?

  • @mingw2304
    @mingw2304 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Honestly, when does Cheshire say "We're all mad here"??? He says "Most everyone's mad here".....there's a difference

  • @courage1363
    @courage1363 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    What about his role in the Disney Jr show Alice's Wonderland Bakery since they heavenly tone down his mischievous personality and gave him his book personality to which he is mainly a hero in and helps Alice's great great granddaughter in various tasks to recipes in Alice's bakery

    • @erindurkin4441
      @erindurkin4441 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What does the Cheshire Cat's voice sound like in the Wonderland Bakery? I would like to know.

  • @mikeiseastman
    @mikeiseastman 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All of the characters in Alice are Antagonistic towards Alice.

  • @Million_moon
    @Million_moon หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really don't think he's a villian all he did was gyre and gimble in the wabe

  • @tamarapreglej9977
    @tamarapreglej9977 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cheshire cat est espiègle fou.
    Il est indépendant intelligent
    Il donne des conseils mais pas trop car il est mystérieux comme tous les chats
    C est le plus mignon des chats je l adore

  • @lucasgallanipacheco
    @lucasgallanipacheco หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The two

  • @bossslayer5986
    @bossslayer5986 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Chesire Cat ain't now Villain He's my Spirit Animal!

  • @forrestdupre87
    @forrestdupre87 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Not according to the book

  • @Itsdasummer32
    @Itsdasummer32 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Cheshire Cat is an antagonist in the original imo

    • @Honeybaggsss
      @Honeybaggsss ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Imo he’s a pretty good guardian since he leads her out of her sleep

  • @cromaxthedarkangelglumiith5659
    @cromaxthedarkangelglumiith5659 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In 2D classic animation, Alice was sent to court / trial & nearly got her head off by the Queen of Hearts because of Cheshire's pranks. That makes him the bad guy. 🙄