@@vectorinator_007I was confused at the ending of season 5 cause they don’t kill Mosley right? So does that mean for the movie all these people will die expect for Shelby?
This scene is definitely a tough watch, Thomas throughout the show is a good man pretending to be bad and in this scene he is surrounded by some of the most evil people in the world and he can't say at the moment how he truly feels about them to their faces
@@Alvi_Armani3 i mean he is clearly a bad man but he is also a broken man, he has good in him, he has a heart and he feels empathy, but all this other characters at the table are just pure evil
"Good man pretending to be bad" you're delusional. I love Tommy as a character, but he's a HORRIBLE person, just like most of them. Yes, he has his good traits, but overall, morally, he's bad.
@deadlichaos in comparison yes he's good. But compared to everyday people he is super evil. He dragged and manipulated his own FAMILY to achieve his personal ambition which is fuelled by insecurity.
This should've been the point of the whole series. It's the antihero's journey - Tommy finally admitting what Alfie told him, that he who lives by the sword, fucking dies by it. I think the finale still didn't fully come to grips with that idea and didn't fulfill Tommy's redemption. Now, obviously there's a movie coming, but this scene should've been the turning point - the "I did it for me" to reference Breaking Bad. Maybe the problem is that there is no one great for Tommy to make that sacrifice for - all great antiheroes need someone, i.e. Vader has Luke, Walter White has Jesse. Tommy's should've been Grace, but I feel like the show got carried away with all the plot and action and forgot his arc.
True, also don’t forget that Helen McCrory’s death (Polly) put a HUGE hurdle in the way of production. Her character would have had an IMMENSE impact on the final season which all had to be rewritten. Shame we’ll never know what season 6 was meant to be.
I know Tommy doesn't love Lizzie...at least not like Grace...but she bore his child and he's always been pretty good to her ...she tries to make him love her.....my point is that Tommy does take up for her against those disgusting magots!!!! ❤❤
He loves her but he is not in love with her , but he trusts her and she was always his friend and part of the family. But Grace will always be the love of his life.
@@MsRouxei think she’s his wife and he behave like a husband of her that’s it ,that’s why he can cheat on her because he doesn’t love her she’s just his wife , but not like grace when he was with grace he never cheated because he was falling in love with her
Right like that relationship blossom to something beautiful, a gangster who became politician and an international businessman and A national businessman and his wife love his life, a former copper for the crown who dies to assume because of a pissed off Italian asshole right this is the most significant love story throughout the series oh, by the way she married someone else and NYC guy who killed himself because Tom got her pregnant
@@MsRouxe Wow! I am so happy that someone finally gets what I'm saying! Thank you!! And now that we are getting a Peaky Blinders movie in a year or so and it's already filming....yay! We will all see if he ends up alone, dead or just broken as he has been since Grace died.....
Tom's brother John was going to marry Lizzie at one time and they laughed at him. Tom picked up her in his car and offered money for services to see if she was still working, she was.
I’m amazed, Tom Shelby is able to sit in the room with so many enemies Oswald, mostly Diane Medford, Laura McKee, and Jackson Nelson all sitting in the same room to do business and make money on one final deal that would reach his redemption and put it into his dark business, but instead, he’s wondering His own morality of his own limitations beyond the love of his family beyond rationality
Tommy clearly sees that Lizzie can't take it anymore. When he says she doesn't deserve him, he means she deserves better, to be happy. Please Tommy, go back to her in the movie and apologize !
The actor playing the American is absolutely perfect. Obnoxious, crass, loud and his nasally burgerland accent amplifies it all unbearably. I hated him from the moment he opened his mouth. Masterclass in acting.
i think tommy after the death of his love grace he can not fall love again but he needs a wife to look after him and his children that’s the role of lizzy on his life
@@vengeanceisherebymine Faith? No pb movie is going to flunk. Right after Oppenheimer, the writers (I think Steven knight) confirmed a pb movie. It's weird. If he had a script which he was confident about, he could have presented it earlier. But he just went with Cillian's success in Oppenheimer. Look I loved the series and I hope I'll like the film but I very much doubt depth in the script.
@@nateblanche2551 I was asking “as opposed to what other alternatives” hence “opposed to what exactly?” If they have some type of superior way of acting, I’d love to hear of this superior culture. My first reply was me refuting them and implying something simultaneously rather succinctly but now Iam spoiling the punchline by spelling it out.
@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus Yeah i just think you need to google what opposed means. Sorry theres a punchline i cant understand but this is YT comments not a comedy stand-up gig.
@@nateblanche2551 you have made a very compelling argument Iam stunned by its mind shattering depth and complexity, I am simply in awe, bravo. Your skill issue is not my problem.
Would love to see a Jack Nelson spinoff in the same era - his rise to power in Boston etc and his conflicts with local gangs - mainly the Solomons family in a similar format to PB. Either a 1 season miniseries or a film! Hopefully he appears in the Blinders film.
Lizzie pissed me off so much in the scene. I know Tommy doesn’t tell her everything which is why she acts this way but at a table with perspective enemies don’t act clueless or make it known that Tommy doesn’t tell you everything that’s why nobody at the table respected her because they knew not even Tommy trusted her with info or took her seriously. Like “another journey”are you serious? Do that after not now but then again like Tommy said Lizzie is human. Everybody at that table was not human.
Pretty sure Tommy wants that to happen, Lizzie not being taken seriously would work in his favor in the light of his supposed death. If she had seemed to be competent and a threat to everyone there they might've decided to tie that loose end.
i love jack nelsons character, he’s so stereotypically american, that’s its super entertaining
LMFAO 4:49 his face😭😭😭
@@RobbyBlumpkingod damn it mosley 🤣
Vulgar. Vulgar Americans. I'll have to say from now on, I'm Alaskan.
@@RobbyBlumpkin 'man you guys are fkin nuts'
its kennedy sr
I can't believe that everyone sitting at the dinner table survives the series.
Wait for the movie to come out
Nash Equilibrium
@@vectorinator_007I was confused at the ending of season 5 cause they don’t kill Mosley right? So does that mean for the movie all these people will die expect for Shelby?
@@jadden1570 littery no idea mate. When it comes out it will sure be a surprise
@@jadden1570 he will probably die too
Why does it never feel boring to rewatch Peaky Blinders?
great writing/ acting
Ngl when they got extra political it got boring a bit
its like game of thrones is why shows like that where they include politics drama and real life situations are never boring because its life
Because it's too good
Inexplicable writing and directing
This scene is definitely a tough watch, Thomas throughout the show is a good man pretending to be bad and in this scene he is surrounded by some of the most evil people in the world and he can't say at the moment how he truly feels about them to their faces
Tf 😂, "Good Man" bro don't get me wrong I love Thomas Shelby but in what way, no, on what earth is he a good man?
@@Alvi_Armani3 i mean he is clearly a bad man but he is also a broken man, he has good in him, he has a heart and he feels empathy, but all this other characters at the table are just pure evil
"Good man pretending to be bad" you're delusional. I love Tommy as a character, but he's a HORRIBLE person, just like most of them. Yes, he has his good traits, but overall, morally, he's bad.
@deadlichaos in comparison yes he's good. But compared to everyday people he is super evil.
He dragged and manipulated his own FAMILY to achieve his personal ambition which is fuelled by insecurity.
He literally calls them fuckers and says he’s as scum as they are in the scene
At this table, Thomas realizes that he is in bed with people he cannot control or anticipate. He is scared to his bones
I think he just released he is just as bad as them, nit fearful
Like war?
The wine. The whiskey. And the champagne
You forgot the last dot.
@@Kojumain Full stop...
@@janettewebster2151 Yep very nice writing using drinks to explain the class difference or better yet the power difference between them.
the sacred and the champagne, very observant
4:10 that eye acting from Cillian 🔥🔥🔥
Such a great scene and storyline, but boy it's a punch in the gut. Tough to watch.
This should've been the point of the whole series. It's the antihero's journey - Tommy finally admitting what Alfie told him, that he who lives by the sword, fucking dies by it. I think the finale still didn't fully come to grips with that idea and didn't fulfill Tommy's redemption. Now, obviously there's a movie coming, but this scene should've been the turning point - the "I did it for me" to reference Breaking Bad. Maybe the problem is that there is no one great for Tommy to make that sacrifice for - all great antiheroes need someone, i.e. Vader has Luke, Walter White has Jesse. Tommy's should've been Grace, but I feel like the show got carried away with all the plot and action and forgot his arc.
True, also don’t forget that Helen McCrory’s death (Polly) put a HUGE hurdle in the way of production. Her character would have had an IMMENSE impact on the final season which all had to be rewritten. Shame we’ll never know what season 6 was meant to be.
I know Tommy doesn't love Lizzie...at least not like Grace...but she bore his child and he's always been pretty good to her ...she tries to make him love her.....my point is that Tommy does take up for her against those disgusting magots!!!! ❤❤
He loves her but he is not in love with her , but he trusts her and she was always his friend and part of the family. But Grace will always be the love of his life.
@@MsRouxei think she’s his wife and he behave like a husband of her that’s it ,that’s why he can cheat on her because he doesn’t love her she’s just his wife , but not like grace when he was with grace he never cheated because he was falling in love with her
Right like that relationship blossom to something beautiful, a gangster who became politician and an international businessman and A national businessman and his wife love his life, a former copper for the crown who dies to assume because of a pissed off Italian asshole right this is the most significant love story throughout the series oh, by the way she married someone else and NYC guy who killed himself because Tom got her pregnant
@@MsRouxe
Wow! I am so happy that someone finally gets what I'm saying! Thank you!!
And now that we are getting a Peaky Blinders movie in a year or so and it's already filming....yay! We will all see if he ends up alone, dead or just broken as he has been since Grace died.....
Tom's brother John was going to marry Lizzie at one time and they laughed at him. Tom picked up her in his car and offered money for services to see if she was still working, she was.
Beautiful come back by Shelby
I actually liked Lizzie. She stood by Tommy so many times when he hurt her.
That's actually stupid. If you get hurt, hit back harder and then just disappear.
Because she is stupid
The actress who plays Diana looks exactly like Marion Cotillard
She looks like she is a sister of Michael Shannon
Jack Nelson needs to appear in the movie.
Is Jack Nelson suppose to be Joe Kennedy? He's a Catholic from Boston.
@@VidWatcher-v4j He's supposed to be inspired by Joseph Kennedy Sr.
Thanks @henryav1676, I meant the father. How about Mosely's fiance/wife? Is she suppose to be from the famous Guiness family?
She was born Diana Mitford, & was a Guinness for 7 years before she married Mosley.
@@VidWatcher-v4j
Would he? He's now at war with the Solomons in Boston
I’m amazed, Tom Shelby is able to sit in the room with so many enemies Oswald, mostly Diane Medford, Laura McKee, and Jackson Nelson all sitting in the same room to do business and make money on one final deal that would reach his redemption and put it into his dark business, but instead, he’s wondering His own morality of his own limitations beyond the love of his family beyond rationality
Tommy clearly sees that Lizzie can't take it anymore. When he says she doesn't deserve him, he means she deserves better, to be happy. Please Tommy, go back to her in the movie and apologize !
No point in apologizing at that point
no thomas need a woman like grace,now thomas need to be a lone wolf lmao wtf i am said?
@@Moneymaxxingofc woomen like grace? like what actually means?
that last line
The actor playing the American is absolutely perfect. Obnoxious, crass, loud and his nasally burgerland accent amplifies it all unbearably. I hated him from the moment he opened his mouth. Masterclass in acting.
Ya he's very good
Burgerland accent 🤣
“Celebration, ya know, getting off this f**king island”, as a Canadian who visited England, I can relate to the feeling.
i think tommy after the death of his love grace he can not fall love again but he needs a wife to look after him and his children that’s the role of lizzy on his life
Agreed
I never liked how Tommy ended with Lizzie
Diana wanted to take revenge on Lizzie
Thanks for uploading. Been looking for this clip for long!
@6:10 "What will you become?" 😎
Thomas you are so creative in the last line of this video
Tommy went too easy on Mosley
Mosley needed to get his shit ran
@@g59_tweaky82his time will come in the film
@@thecinemafox5531 It never did in the series and I don't expect much from the movie (except it being a flop)
@@Fierceprotector Have some faith brother
@@vengeanceisherebymine Faith? No pb movie is going to flunk.
Right after Oppenheimer, the writers (I think Steven knight) confirmed a pb movie. It's weird. If he had a script which he was confident about, he could have presented it earlier.
But he just went with Cillian's success in Oppenheimer.
Look I loved the series and I hope I'll like the film but I very much doubt depth in the script.
American's the same since the old times
As opposed to what exactly?
@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus Opposed is the wrong word.. Makes no sense in the context of his statement.
Maybe you mean 'since when'?
@@nateblanche2551 I was asking “as opposed to what other alternatives” hence “opposed to what exactly?”
If they have some type of superior way of acting, I’d love to hear of this superior culture.
My first reply was me refuting them and implying something simultaneously rather succinctly but now Iam spoiling the punchline by spelling it out.
@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus Yeah i just think you need to google what opposed means. Sorry theres a punchline i cant understand but this is YT comments not a comedy stand-up gig.
@@nateblanche2551 you have made a very compelling argument Iam stunned by its mind shattering depth and complexity, I am simply in awe, bravo.
Your skill issue is not my problem.
Very dark and tough scene to watch.
The matrix.
6:09
Lizzy forgot her place.
Hush your mouth
yeah forget my bed 👿😉
Whiskey is elequant but 5 million dollars.. basically saying shut up!! The drinks getting to you n your saying to much
There is God and there is the peaky blinders plus the stone fukin roses and oasis happy Mondays Rkid lucky boro fc liveforever 🎉
Eyh
Don’t get me wrong it’s still a good scene but it’s not as strong as many others. Kind of insists on itself.
You can see Tommy isn't impressed with this American he shouts a lot could you trust someone with a big mouth i don't think so 💥💥
That American accent is so bad.
Would love to see a Jack Nelson spinoff in the same era - his rise to power in Boston etc and his conflicts with local gangs - mainly the Solomons family in a similar format to PB. Either a 1 season miniseries or a film! Hopefully he appears in the Blinders film.
Tenho muitos conhecidos depois k comecei estudar só.
Lizzie pissed me off so much in the scene. I know Tommy doesn’t tell her everything which is why she acts this way but at a table with perspective enemies don’t act clueless or make it known that Tommy doesn’t tell you everything that’s why nobody at the table respected her because they knew not even Tommy trusted her with info or took her seriously. Like “another journey”are you serious? Do that after not now but then again like Tommy said Lizzie is human. Everybody at that table was not human.
She never belonged at that table anyways.....tommy said it himself 😂 he also told her he regrets marrying her for all the shit he put her through
Pretty sure Tommy wants that to happen, Lizzie not being taken seriously would work in his favor in the light of his supposed death. If she had seemed to be competent and a threat to everyone there they might've decided to tie that loose end.