Very difficult to overcome laziness to win in college athletics. This really isn't fixable for Indiana through coaching. This must be a personal choice of the players to work hard.
amazing that simply throwing too much money at a bunch of 21 and 22 year olds to convince them to show up on your campus isn't producing a team that's full of effort and passion. who in the world could have ever seen that coming
@@m.davidmccormick7062 Other teams get effort and passion out of transfers. Either the kids have the passion or they don’t money won’t change that either way.
Youre really blaming the players and not the coaching staff? One of their transfers was literally rookie of the year in the west. And now is scoring less as a sophomore than he did as a freshman.
I am so tired of this negativity and passenger-side criticism! Look, this is early in the season with young guys just learning the System...all we need to do is stick together (as this TEAM is evidently doing!!) and we'll be joyously entering the season-ending Tournament on an upward arc. Go Hoosiers.
You are delusional. These guys have been practicing since July. The start of on-the-record games is NOT 'learn the system' time at all, it is execute-the-system that has supposed to have been learned in the July-October timeframe. Woody has publicly said this is a 'selfish' team. You call that 'sticking together', when the coach is calling out his team publicly? The 2 big problems are 1) Defense and 2) Too much dribbling and 1on1 play on offense. How do you think UL and Gonzaga blew those games open in such shockingly short periods of time? Scores after turnovers, scores on 2nd and 3rd shot opportunities, scores on easy transition buckets. Lack of effort is at the root of all those. I guarantee you these guys are not practicing hard and pushing each other to get better, because a team that is doing that also plays hard. These guys are not playing hard at all.
RECURRING THOUGHT: How would Knight have handled Reneau? ... LOGICAL CONCLUSION: Knight would have kicked him off the team or he would have left the program ... YESTERDAY's GAME: They won only because Providence is an inferior team that is destined to have a losing season ... MOST MEMORABLE PLAY: Reneau gets a 3-point play on a put-back and then steps away from the floor to do a "strongman pose" ... CONTEXT: Reneau acts as if he has conquered the world after IU gets humiliated in its two previous games ... PRIMARY TAKEAWAY: The season is lost and even with a new coach, this million-dollar team is likely to set the program back 3-4 years.
@@DavidStewart-v5eNo. Woodson has expired. He was handed a talented team. He is not a good college head coach. He might be a good developmental coach an average NBA coach but has not performed well at the collegiate level.
College players are not big enough, tall enough, or long enough to execute it. It works in the NBA but it's easier when your shortest player is 6'4"-6'5" and all of your lineups average over 6'8"... doesn't work for most college rosters as we've seen...
I want Woody to succeed, but you are right. He seems totally unwilling to adjust his scheme. I could buy that our offense had to have two big guys because of our personnel. That's no longer true, we can play small and run a 4 or 5 man out, yet we are still in the same philosophy of two big guys and dumping to the post we always have been. We are still running the same defense we always run, which allows teams to shoot open three after open three. I don't get it. He's had multiple offseasons where he has acknowledged it yet continuously keeps coming back to the same shit.
@@irvinglambert9316 the defense has to get away from the over help and auto switching. Guys are totally lost which then turns into a lack of effort. Offensively, they just need to let Rice cook, keep the ball in his hands more. Get the ball out of Ballo's hands, there are just far too many turnovers coming out of it. Also, clearly throwing lobs inside as a focal point of the offense without occupying off ball defenders with their own action is a disaster. It should only be done opportunistically.
@@Talking_Comicsits one set play that can be utilized at any time, even in the middle of running a different play if the situation is there. IU bball is not complex enough, not hardworking enough, doesnt change sets when they need to. They are incapable of change
I agree with most of what you guys said, that said here's my take. The healthier Trey Galloway gets the better he will be on defense. Coming off surgery he has been tentative and played bad at times; which is normal for a guy who has been playing full-court for little over a month. But his breakout game was sensational yesterday. Also, where earlier Gal allowed RIce to lead, my favorite Hoosier in years will take over this as his team. Defensively he will hold his teammates accountable.
Played bad 'at times'? Both he and Goode have so far played like high school seniors rather than 5th year seniors. We need 15-20 a game combined from those 2, we are getting 5, and neither is playing any defense. Whoever Galloway is guarding, that guy is constantly getting easy drives to the rim. Goode goes for every feint, every upfake. They are playing like high school seniors! And since when has Galloway ever been a floor leader? TJD was the floor leader for his first 2 seasons, last 2 it was XJ. Galloway's contribution needs to be to be a + stat every game, and play solid defense, not to take over the team. Reneau needs to lead the team and get in guys faces when they eff up.
They can buy a new team every year, but Woodson is still their coach.
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Very difficult to overcome laziness to win in college athletics. This really isn't fixable for Indiana through coaching. This must be a personal choice of the players to work hard.
amazing that simply throwing too much money at a bunch of 21 and 22 year olds to convince them to show up on your campus isn't producing a team that's full of effort and passion. who in the world could have ever seen that coming
@@m.davidmccormick7062 Other teams get effort and passion out of transfers. Either the kids have the passion or they don’t money won’t change that either way.
Youre really blaming the players and not the coaching staff? One of their transfers was literally rookie of the year in the west. And now is scoring less as a sophomore than he did as a freshman.
1:36 guy makes me even less interested in college basketball (and anything that he has to say)
I am so tired of this negativity and passenger-side criticism! Look, this is early in the season with young guys just learning the System...all we need to do is stick together (as this TEAM is evidently doing!!) and we'll be joyously entering the season-ending Tournament on an upward arc. Go Hoosiers.
You are delusional. These guys have been practicing since July. The start of on-the-record games is NOT 'learn the system' time at all, it is execute-the-system that has supposed to have been learned in the July-October timeframe. Woody has publicly said this is a 'selfish' team. You call that 'sticking together', when the coach is calling out his team publicly? The 2 big problems are 1) Defense and 2) Too much dribbling and 1on1 play on offense. How do you think UL and Gonzaga blew those games open in such shockingly short periods of time? Scores after turnovers, scores on 2nd and 3rd shot opportunities, scores on easy transition buckets. Lack of effort is at the root of all those. I guarantee you these guys are not practicing hard and pushing each other to get better, because a team that is doing that also plays hard. These guys are not playing hard at all.
You have to wake up. Woodson is the problem and has to go. This isn’t some freshman class in the pre-NIL era.
RECURRING THOUGHT:
How would Knight have handled Reneau? ...
LOGICAL CONCLUSION:
Knight would have kicked him off the team or he would have left the program ...
YESTERDAY's GAME:
They won only because Providence is an inferior team that is destined to have a losing season ...
MOST MEMORABLE PLAY:
Reneau gets a 3-point play on a put-back and then steps away from the floor to do a "strongman pose" ...
CONTEXT:
Reneau acts as if he has conquered the world after IU gets humiliated in its two previous games ...
PRIMARY TAKEAWAY:
The season is lost and even with a new coach, this million-dollar team is likely to set the program back 3-4 years.
Bye bye Woodson
so quick to throw Mike Woodson under the bus! No.....that is NOT the plan. The plan is to Stick Together.
@ it’s been 4 years of him showing us he can’t couch. His only success came on the back of TJD. Bye bye Woodson!
@@DavidStewart-v5eNo. Woodson has expired. He was handed a talented team. He is not a good college head coach. He might be a good developmental coach an average NBA coach but has not performed well at the collegiate level.
They need to go get Chris Beard.
Nail, slot, rim isn't working...
College players are not big enough, tall enough, or long enough to execute it. It works in the NBA but it's easier when your shortest player is 6'4"-6'5" and all of your lineups average over 6'8"... doesn't work for most college rosters as we've seen...
I want Woody to succeed, but you are right. He seems totally unwilling to adjust his scheme. I could buy that our offense had to have two big guys because of our personnel. That's no longer true, we can play small and run a 4 or 5 man out, yet we are still in the same philosophy of two big guys and dumping to the post we always have been. We are still running the same defense we always run, which allows teams to shoot open three after open three. I don't get it. He's had multiple offseasons where he has acknowledged it yet continuously keeps coming back to the same shit.
@@irvinglambert9316 the defense has to get away from the over help and auto switching. Guys are totally lost which then turns into a lack of effort. Offensively, they just need to let Rice cook, keep the ball in his hands more. Get the ball out of Ballo's hands, there are just far too many turnovers coming out of it. Also, clearly throwing lobs inside as a focal point of the offense without occupying off ball defenders with their own action is a disaster. It should only be done opportunistically.
@@Talking_Comicsits one set play that can be utilized at any time, even in the middle of running a different play if the situation is there. IU bball is not complex enough, not hardworking enough, doesnt change sets when they need to. They are incapable of change
Maybe a guy that was ~.500 in the NBA has no idea how to coach and develop a bunch of 19 & 20 year olds, even if it's at his alma mater
This team stinks
I agree with most of what you guys said, that said here's my take. The healthier Trey Galloway gets the better he will be on defense. Coming off surgery he has been tentative and played bad at times; which is normal for a guy who has been playing full-court for little over a month. But his breakout game was sensational yesterday. Also, where earlier Gal allowed RIce to lead, my favorite Hoosier in years will take over this as his team. Defensively he will hold his teammates accountable.
Played bad 'at times'? Both he and Goode have so far played like high school seniors rather than 5th year seniors. We need 15-20 a game combined from those 2, we are getting 5, and neither is playing any defense. Whoever Galloway is guarding, that guy is constantly getting easy drives to the rim. Goode goes for every feint, every upfake. They are playing like high school seniors! And since when has Galloway ever been a floor leader? TJD was the floor leader for his first 2 seasons, last 2 it was XJ. Galloway's contribution needs to be to be a + stat every game, and play solid defense, not to take over the team. Reneau needs to lead the team and get in guys faces when they eff up.
Lol even Galloway playing his A+ defense isn't good enough to elevate his teammates
Galloway doesn’t have A plus defense, part of the reason the need to upgrade the guard positions from last year.