"I understand you might be tempted to make molluscmage endless" this is the second video you've suggested this. Literally no one is tempted to do this, it's terrible. Do not worry.
@@Doomroar you could use the molluskmage as a temporary wall, and kill it constantly to chose each turn which floor gains the boost... It actually has some sense?
@Franklin Terwilliger III It's just as it sounds I think. If you have a unit that procs an ability on slay( when they attack and kill something). That same ability will go off if you give that unit spikes and the enemy attacks and dies to the spike buff. It really can help the horn breaker prince when you go down the path that gives him armor on slay and partner with the awoken to give spikes. It's kind of a two for one since you are getting his revenge trigger for rage from the enemy's attack and the armor if they manage to kill themselves on that same attack before you even take your turn. Sorry if this was a bit long winded but I hope it helps you have more fun with the game and push past your block.
NL, I feel like you did really well on your second run, here. When making the decision whether or not to turn on the last trial (for 400 gold), it helps to ask A) Will the Trial definitely kill you? And if not B) Will my deck as-is die to Seraph? If the answer is MAYBE die on the trial, but almost certainly your deck as-is dies to Seraph, take the trial, and hope to survive and use the gold to increase your chances against Seraph. I think you should have turned the trial on, but it wasn't a no-brainer, so I can't really claim you misplayed by leaving it off.
he plays way too passive in regards to the trials, especially early when he has the pyre health to spare . like that's how you get your deck stronger than the rounds you're going against so you can keep doing trials
Maybe you can't argue it's a misplay, but you can definitely argue he didn't think it through. If he played slower he might have realized that. I'm not sure that's on NL playbook though
@@Northernlion pleeaase think about taking early trials even if your deck is weak! (For example creatures on every floor for first one have rage and will at most be doing 3 damage each with the middle floor doing 1 damage each if they get to the pyre) you'll take some damage but gain more out of it and be able to take more trials. Thanks for getting me into this game :)
@@Northernlion Be careful with all this advice about early trials. Once you hit the covenant rank that takes off another 20 HP at the start, taking extra damage for 75 gold will often get you killed on Daedalus if he's double barrel.
"we really need our frozen card" Well, if you just didnt forget after 2 seconds into the fight that the boss purges your first spell played even after reading it right before the boss fight you mightve realized why draving your frozen card was impossible. Since you yeeted it and every other good card from your deck in the final fight.
Absolutely same, the price point put me off buying it for so long but every episode NL put out made me more and more pogged for it and I eventually couldn't hold back. I don't regret it.
Daily Monster Train advice nobody asked for (Day 4): Incant floors do best when you actually incant a lot on them, obviously. So playing spells that don't care on which floor they are played (i.e. Channelsong, Preserve and Invigorating Solution) on the incant floor is actually optimal. Furthermore, you want to be able to cast loads of spells. That can only be achieved by having enough Ember and enough draw. You can make spells cheaper but you still have to draw into them. Also draw allows you to cycle through your deck faster to get to your already played spells faster and thus having even more incants. That's why it's usually advisable to take draw rather than capacity or Ember when playing with incants. Bonus fact: Sting spells synergise very well with Incant-floors because they give you an easy incant but also lead to more draw on the next turn which lead to more incants and so forth. Stay tundes and have fun playing!
Same here, why in all the worlds would someone chose X+3 its really awfull. And double george is just so good. Why? Why? Pls, tell me... I stopped watching the Video at exactly the beginning for that reason
@@FlakManBegins also when he says he doesn't need a tank at 11:30 because he has one tank.... the dude is literally only thinking about having one decent floor every run (maybe 2) lol
Him never taking draw is the most hilarious/frusterating thing. Its like he dosent realize that most of the runs that go well, he gets some sort of draw synergy from his cards. Im the opposite, I probably pick draw 90% of the time. Its not always right but I hate the brick draws.
real quick want to point out nl could've removed the consume on calcified embers and also made it holdover. just letting you all know he could've had unlimited energy and draw. + 20 damage shield. etc.
NL has been settling way too much on extremely mediocre unit upgrades, damage shield two on his thorn unit comes to mind especially when he had those primal dusts already
This. NL needs to stop buying medicore upgrades for his units. It was heartbreaking to see him buy +10 damage and +25 health for the sweep unit, when multistrike or quick would've done way more.
@@Twiggy_Shei Its perplexing and astonishing how the comments haven't been hammering into him for months now about his terrible unit upgrade selections. He doesn't realize gold is super finite at this covenant levels, especially when he barely ever takes trials, so its unconconsciable for him to be taking offensive "upgrades" on his "Tanks". Its no wonder at the end of the video his units cant even survive a single wave from full health. He needs to realize that Heartstone for +25 HP is THE premium upgrade for tanks, instead of something that he only splashes on as an afterthought on his 0 damage backline units. Also he loves giving a 4th multrstrike to Animus, eventhough nearly any upgrade, including a +5 attack +10 hp, would be better, forget about the massive price difference.
I cannot believe that it's 56 episodes already and I ACTUALLY WATCHED ALL OF THEM AND STILL WANT MORE!! Hahaha :D Here are 3 quick tips : 1 Put your support units (incant 0 attack etc) IN FRONT of the your damage units - in relentless this can often mean you get 1 more hit (which did not matter this time...) 2 Respect the +1 draw a bit more, +1 draw is roughly the equivalent of 6 REMOVALS (e.g. 30 card deck 5 draw, vs 36 card deck 6 draw) 3 Removing bad spells early is worth more than removing your Train Stewards as the have "consume" if you just put them down to die (or can even act as damage shield 1 consume if you have space)
8:00 Unintuitively, the Transcendimp when summoned uses all the previously used summon abilities ON HIMSELF. Thorned Hollow would not get extra 40 max hp, the Imp would. I fell for that once
Definitely true. But an endless 1/101 1-capacity unit (thorned+awoken hollow) when you have the full-heal card is pretty ok ^^ (That's what I had in a run once)
@Ark Kanto Ok, I didn't want to admit to that, but it actually happened 3 times to me, because I kept forgetting. So yeah, that is definitely how it works
yea it repeats all the summon effects so the thorned hollow gives itself +hp so the imp gives itself +hp things like the imp giving armor to the front unit still gives armor to the front unit as that is the summon ability of that imp
NL neglecting Engine Upgrade even though he plays architect penumbra and he never filled up all the floors anyways. And seconds before that he complained about energy issues.
It was his first time considering architect. you cant get mad at the guy for not seeing every potential combo right away. Personally engine upgrade was the golden card for me, thought it to be too slow like berzerk in StS
57:44, NL preserved thorns is an excellent addition to your line up for a magic power deck, it's a free spell, which gives 3 free spells! Give it a shot next time, otherwise **He's Learning!**
The morsel maker going on the bottom floor would have been a good play @14:00 , because it would constantly be feeding something +health and +damage morsels that you otherwise would barely be giving morsels. Morsel maker isn't for your big gorge floor, it's for the floor where you can't fit morsels due to capacity.
If there is one thing I wish NL would do more often it's wait on upgrading units at the beginning. You don't have to fill out upgrade slots immediately. Sometimes waiting for better upgrades is worth it. For example, the tank at the beginning of the second run. The largestone was amazing, but then you put spikes 4 on it, something that can be achieved on that unit with literally one ember. Then you put damage 10 on it when that unit could do much more damage by living longer (which could be achieved by waiting to give it HP+25). Nothing wrong with being patient sometimes.
Hey NL I know you get a lot of criticism over these videos, and I don't want to say anyone is right or wrong. But I also think it should be said that these videos as well as the comments have helped me improve a lot at the game. Thanks for bearing the brunt of all that criticism, for our entertainment and so we can all learn together.
Most people just want to help him to be the best egg we know he can be, I honestly see more constructive advice than "haha, look at what he did". Not 100%, but at least 80%
@@SlavaRybka sometimes it's frustrating to see the misplays but most of the times it just ends up being hilarious - still try to give him tips though in hopes he sees haha
I believe you had the right idea on the first run, just the wrong order. Running your awoken units (tank and sweep) on first floor then gorge units on 3rd would have worked a bit better in this particular run. Sweep removes little guys and makes him strong...gorge gets time to get stronger
NL if you read this just a tip with the umbra cards which emberdrain you apply them on morsels so they are gorged at the end of the turn effectively removing the emberdrain
Really enjoying this series! I like that you don't mind showing your losses and let us see your thought process. I may just have to pick up the game based off of watching you play! Seems like a blast.
General tip - don't feel obligated to fill all 3 floors with units. Often it's better to concentrate everything on two floors (although rarely one). For an example - a floor with 1 offense unit and 2 tanks is better than a floor with an offense and a tank, and another with a tank and nothing else
NL, you were definitely figuring it out on your own at the end of the first run so nice job, but the main benefit of the architect champion is being able to make one single floor that’s better than 2 or 3 normal floors. You just don’t want to get stuck thinking you have to fill multiple floors because it’s how to play most of the time. Victory is coming!
Good vid NL. General feedback from Cov25 player, don't feel obligated to have multiple functional floor. It is generally more efficient to run 2 good floors or 1 super floor. glhf
NL spikes are basically another form of AoE for Awakened. By placing a spike unit and the slay trigger sweeper on the same floor you had your spikelord eat up all the potential triggers you could've gotten on it. In general you had three big AoE lords with the spiketank, the slay sweeper and the shadowgorger. That was overcomitting on deal with backline units and not dealing with any frontline tanky stuff.
I won a Cov 20 with the Trample Umbra champ and nothing but 7 double-stacked copies of the rage/damageshield/emberdrain card. Even with Seraph debuffing me my champ was around 550/50 with 80 stacks of damage shield left and trample. ABSURD
Fair warning I'm a minute in. He always takes the "X+3" artifact as if it were the best thing in the game even when there's no evidence to support it. How many runs has he taken this artifact and never added an X card? This time he started with one but is it really worth it? With an Umbra primary, tons of things are going to gorge. It's a "zero logic" choice.
Biggest oof in the second run was taking energy twice. Rarely did you even use all your energy, but the lack of draw killed you. Especially poignant in the last fight where you needed specific things early.
Health is more important than spike on your tank units, and yes this includes the thorn hollow. You don't have to keep every unit alive just because you can, sometimes it's worth losing a unit if you can make another floor much stronger
You keep forgetting about molluscmage, if you had it on your incant floor instead of the Armor totem, that’s an additional 7 per spell. With spell weakness, plus the relics you had, that was an enormous amount of damage you left on the table for 1 Armor per incant. The Armor would’ve benefited your frost tank so you could have focused more restores on spikes. Although at the end of the day you lost because of bad draw. Either way thank you for the video :)
Generally you will want minions like mullosc mage to come *after* your spellweakness floor, NL. The 7 spellpower from mollusc mage get's multiplied too, so the card can be potentially many times more useful if you place it later.
Upgraded Sweep Boy, nice job, tiny backline units are sorted babe. Spikes Healy Mans, ok there is your scaling method for killing bosses if you get some better regen, but he is gonna cannibalize your Slay triggers and you can't add Quick anymore. I guess that is fine it is like, the best Awoken unit. Useless Gorge Ball, the reason this video is an hour long isn't because it involves a win, is it?
Hey NL, shattered shell, shadoweater, and Thorned hollow all serve similar purpose in wiping trash mobs with Thorned being a tank on top of that, if you've got one the other two are unlikely to do well because they're all fighting, shattered shell especially as it needs chumps to start scaling and actually doing work.
57:45 This mans really turned down Bramble Lash while having a Thorned Hollow, two Sharpens (One w/ doublestack), and a champ with spell weakness... Its damage is TEN TIMES the spikes. On the fight right before, you had one unit with 16 spikes and another with 18, that's 160-180 damage, stick it all on one unit and it's 340, 2 spell weakness and that's 1020 damage! THE MADMAN!
No, don't worry, the "s" in prismal is silent 😂. This man and his names for things... Edit: as a side note, NL, if you played Transcendimp and it repeated the max HP gain, the *Transcendimp* would gain the max HP, NOT the Thorned Hollow.
Seeing the relics, units and upgrades the games offers you, it's trying really hard to make you win. Loving the series though. Looking forward to seeing you beat all clans at covenant 25. It will be a glorious day.
NL thinks the Imp makes all summon effects repeat on original units while in fact it's the imp who gains them making it 1/1(61) hp imp in this case xx luv u egg.
I'm only 13 minutes in, and the choices are already making my brain tremble. Don't get me wrong, I'm still enjoying it and it makes me a better player too. Buuuuuuuut: Disregarding the best Umbra artifact as first choice when playing as Umbra primary Spikes + sweep (At least it gets healers and can be made up for with quick[Not when you fill up on crap upgrades]) Building on the bottom floor when you don't need to Taking Shadowgorger, a sweep tank, when you already have a sweep unit and a spike tank Skipping Bramble Lash while having plenty of spikes Completely disregarding the Seraph's penalty Keep in mind most of these are common occurrences and not just limited to this run.
Use morsels on gorge units exclusively. It is bad advice but NL does the opposite which is worse imo. Never use spell weakness units on the last floor, it is useless. Keep it up, you are learning. One step at a time (even if it is in the wrong direction).
The Fel that applies scourges can be a trap into thinking your deck needs more energy when it actually doesn't because of the 2-cost scourges being an energy tax.
Cool Tip: 29:45 you cant not get that unit in the first turn. Monster Train has a "hidden" mechanic which is preferred draw, meaning your picked units will be drawn in the first few turns of combat. Since you only have one picked unit you are guaranteed to draw it on the first hand ;)
We should get a count going of how many times NL says "it is what it is" throughout this series. I think it's got to be at least 3 per episode, but it is what it is.
Monster Train? More like Monster Trainwreck. Ahhahaha.... erm. Here is a list of things to look out for. >not taking gorge relic (Bonus you had gorge champ) Gorge relic makes everything with said ability do it twice. Double everything gorge effect. Fuel. Life steal, shields. Everything. If you use a spike on it it's F O U R T I M E S. >upgrading sweep units and using all their spaces when not fishing for a quick (Which you by 1st boss) >Not taking trans imp with summon effects. While the hollow gives the imp +40 hp, you can use the imp with the architect to gain more space as it too is a summon effect. >not taking animus of will (Personal preference) >Putting Damage shield upgrade on a tank that's going to get hit all the time forever. Damage shield is better on throwaway block units. >taking the shadow eater with low morsel generation and a tank already. Shadow eater should go on floor 1 and then put the hollow up top and stack heals on it. >playing spikes on backline units. You want to play them on tanks unless they are multi strike as you are getting 1/2 value or it'll die in 2 seconds. >With no quickness on the husk enemies die to thorns before it attacks to get slay triggers. >Using damage shield on frontline tanks. You should stack these free shields on dps backliners. >You have to avoid playing morsels vs sweep units if you cannot shield them. Especially ones that gain +attack on slay. There we did it. "That's just the first run." "Pog" - some morsel
Hey NL, Damage Shield doesn't work with Spikes or Revenge mechanics. Armor does, though, for some reason. Keep truckin dude, hope to see you beat Covenant 25 one day!
Just try to remember those early shadowgorgers are valuable NL! It's a permanent damage increase over the whole run when it gorges so you have a real beast at the end (morsel maker + master means a minimum of +8 damage/turn for the whole run!). I haven't seen you really invest in this card in a run so I'm hoping one day you might try it out.
"I understand you might be tempted to make molluscmage endless" this is the second video you've suggested this. Literally no one is tempted to do this, it's terrible. Do not worry.
Close, I actually thought you had this one
New meta play your Mollusc like Imps, and play your Imps like Deadweight cards.
@@Doomroar you could use the molluskmage as a temporary wall, and kill it constantly to chose each turn which floor gains the boost...
It actually has some sense?
@@GygasDistruttore It also takes up 1 draw a turn, you dont want to draw a mollluskmage every turn.
15:07 "Pyre's taking some hits, but our sweep unit is doing some heavy lifting"
Sweep unit with a single slay: 🙂
This is funnier than it has any right to be. Lol
Nl man i remember the MONTHS of losses in slay the spire this is nothing. and its all still very entertaining.
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Transcendimp will also copy the architect ability to add capacity. so even if the imp dies the floors capacity is still improved.
That's a damn fine tip, Brother. Appreciated.
@@AsterSea Another fun interaction is spikes activating slay triggers. Stumbled upon it after a nasty spike challenge on 1st ring.
@Franklin Terwilliger III It's just as it sounds I think. If you have a unit that procs an ability on slay( when they attack and kill something). That same ability will go off if you give that unit spikes and the enemy attacks and dies to the spike buff.
It really can help the horn breaker prince when you go down the path that gives him armor on slay and partner with the awoken to give spikes. It's kind of a two for one since you are getting his revenge trigger for rage from the enemy's attack and the armor if they manage to kill themselves on that same attack before you even take your turn.
Sorry if this was a bit long winded but I hope it helps you have more fun with the game and push past your block.
Mans really skipped best umbra artifact for the one that makes ONE spell he has better. Never change
Well he did have TWO of them lol. But yes you're right it's the same with the frozen artifact a while back.
He got ridiculously lucky with that pick. Both were solid choices since umbra have the most X cost cards.
8:00 Transcendimp works with Umbra Architect champion!
NL, I feel like you did really well on your second run, here.
When making the decision whether or not to turn on the last trial (for 400 gold), it helps to ask A) Will the Trial definitely kill you? And if not B) Will my deck as-is die to Seraph?
If the answer is MAYBE die on the trial, but almost certainly your deck as-is dies to Seraph, take the trial, and hope to survive and use the gold to increase your chances against Seraph.
I think you should have turned the trial on, but it wasn't a no-brainer, so I can't really claim you misplayed by leaving it off.
he plays way too passive in regards to the trials, especially early when he has the pyre health to spare . like that's how you get your deck stronger than the rounds you're going against so you can keep doing trials
Maybe you can't argue it's a misplay, but you can definitely argue he didn't think it through. If he played slower he might have realized that. I'm not sure that's on NL playbook though
That's a good way to think about it
@@Northernlion pleeaase think about taking early trials even if your deck is weak! (For example creatures on every floor for first one have rage and will at most be doing 3 damage each with the middle floor doing 1 damage each if they get to the pyre) you'll take some damage but gain more out of it and be able to take more trials.
Thanks for getting me into this game :)
@@Northernlion Be careful with all this advice about early trials. Once you hit the covenant rank that takes off another 20 HP at the start, taking extra damage for 75 gold will often get you killed on Daedalus if he's double barrel.
The starting relic choice inflicted horrific pain upon my swollen gourd
Buddy starts off by not taking one of the most OP combos in the game (double gorge+gorge champ). Lets see how this turns out.
Oh this gave me a good chuckle, thanks. You are 100% correct too.
"we really need our frozen card"
Well, if you just didnt forget after 2 seconds into the fight that the boss purges your first spell played even after reading it right before the boss fight you mightve realized why draving your frozen card was impossible. Since you yeeted it and every other good card from your deck in the final fight.
"Unleash the wildwood is insanely good there".... and its gone. :D
An hour long Monster Train episode? Feels like it's been a minute since we've had this unrivaled poggery
Holy Shit he watches egg too wtf based
ROSS?????? wow this was unexpected
Oh, you watch Northernlion. Make more iron spectates.
My 2 most faviritest bois in the sam place?! Somebody pinch me!
Crazy meeting you here.
Hour long, must be two speed runs. Maybe even three victories in record speed
Not gonna lie, NL is the only reason I bought and started playing MT.
Same with StS man, if I didn't see MT on the channel, I would've dismissed it because of its mobile-gaming looking visuals.
@@tb4076 when he had his first video posted i put it in my friend groups discord channel and now 4 of them have it :)
Absolutely same, the price point put me off buying it for so long but every episode NL put out made me more and more pogged for it and I eventually couldn't hold back. I don't regret it.
same here, loving the game and these videos
Daily Monster Train advice nobody asked for (Day 4):
Incant floors do best when you actually incant a lot on them, obviously. So playing spells that don't care on which floor they are played (i.e. Channelsong, Preserve and Invigorating Solution) on the incant floor is actually optimal. Furthermore, you want to be able to cast loads of spells. That can only be achieved by having enough Ember and enough draw. You can make spells cheaper but you still have to draw into them. Also draw allows you to cycle through your deck faster to get to your already played spells faster and thus having even more incants. That's why it's usually advisable to take draw rather than capacity or Ember when playing with incants. Bonus fact: Sting spells synergise very well with Incant-floors because they give you an easy incant but also lead to more draw on the next turn which lead to more incants and so forth.
Stay tundes and have fun playing!
Just a tip, the Thorned Hollow in front of your Sweep unit is preventing most of your slay triggers...
Also buffing with spikes your sweep unit behind your Thorned Hollow is preventing your Thorned Hollow from getting more kills.
@@Doomroar wat
@@blahthebiste7924 he's saying that putting spikes on the back unit is useless because thorned hollow benefits more from it
@@adriqueru Isn't that, like, super obvious though?
@@blahthebiste7924 And yet NL continued to put spikes on his back unit.
NL skipping best artifact at the start of the run? It feels like a deja vu
I saw your comment then the options and so I thought “I really hope this person has a terrible opinion and thinks X+3 is broken” and now I’m just sad
@@Anto-vg3lt at least it wasn't +40 Pyre health, that would have hurt more.
+3 on X is at least somewhat reasonable
Same here, why in all the worlds would someone chose X+3 its really awfull. And double george is just so good. Why? Why? Pls, tell me...
I stopped watching the Video at exactly the beginning for that reason
MegaAnno2 like yesterday’s episode... didn’t want cuttlebeard
When 1pm hits and you just constantly refresh till MT pops ups
Deadass sitting in my car refreshing it😂😂
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My man really just picked capacity without even thinking about it after having an architect champion. Its like there aren't other choices
Yeah, that play killed me. I think he was using about 1.5 floors the battle before too, so it didn't make a ton of sense to pick it up.
@@FlakManBegins also when he says he doesn't need a tank at 11:30 because he has one tank.... the dude is literally only thinking about having one decent floor every run (maybe 2) lol
the length has me cautiously optimistic and ABSOLUTELY POGGED
edit: oof
game is really trying to brute force NL into respecting the fish bois. good.
For the transcendimp, the summon effects apply to itself, so it would give itself the extra 40 max hp, not the thorned hollow
The travesty is he missed that it copies penumbras +capacity.
Oh wow, I didn't even realize that this was the case.
Yes, drawing good cards is hard when you have a 30 card deck and no draw power.
Yeah but remember he needs energy to play the cards..... he's never going to draw 🤯. Lol
This! When he took energy again I was like noo you have enough energy u need draw and he skipped on the lil draw unit
Him never taking draw is the most hilarious/frusterating thing.
Its like he dosent realize that most of the runs that go well, he gets some sort of draw synergy from his cards.
Im the opposite, I probably pick draw 90% of the time. Its not always right but I hate the brick draws.
real quick want to point out nl could've removed the consume on calcified embers and also made it holdover. just letting you all know he could've had unlimited energy and draw. + 20 damage shield. etc.
NL has been settling way too much on extremely mediocre unit upgrades, damage shield two on his thorn unit comes to mind especially when he had those primal dusts already
This. NL needs to stop buying medicore upgrades for his units. It was heartbreaking to see him buy +10 damage and +25 health for the sweep unit, when multistrike or quick would've done way more.
It's Prismal Dust
@@Twiggy_Shei Its perplexing and astonishing how the comments haven't been hammering into him for months now about his terrible unit upgrade selections. He doesn't realize gold is super finite at this covenant levels, especially when he barely ever takes trials, so its unconconsciable for him to be taking offensive "upgrades" on his "Tanks". Its no wonder at the end of the video his units cant even survive a single wave from full health. He needs to realize that Heartstone for +25 HP is THE premium upgrade for tanks, instead of something that he only splashes on as an afterthought on his 0 damage backline units. Also he loves giving a 4th multrstrike to Animus, eventhough nearly any upgrade, including a +5 attack +10 hp, would be better, forget about the massive price difference.
I cannot believe that it's 56 episodes already and I ACTUALLY WATCHED ALL OF THEM AND STILL WANT MORE!! Hahaha :D
Here are 3 quick tips :
1 Put your support units (incant 0 attack etc) IN FRONT of the your damage units - in relentless this can often mean you get 1 more hit (which did not matter this time...)
2 Respect the +1 draw a bit more, +1 draw is roughly the equivalent of 6 REMOVALS (e.g. 30 card deck 5 draw, vs 36 card deck 6 draw)
3 Removing bad spells early is worth more than removing your Train Stewards as the have "consume" if you just put them down to die (or can even act as damage shield 1 consume if you have space)
I love seeing eggmans Tethys plays improving, it's an incredible setup if you can use it correctly.
8:00 Unintuitively, the Transcendimp when summoned uses all the previously used summon abilities ON HIMSELF. Thorned Hollow would not get extra 40 max hp, the Imp would. I fell for that once
Definitely true. But an endless 1/101 1-capacity unit (thorned+awoken hollow) when you have the full-heal card is pretty ok ^^ (That's what I had in a run once)
@Ark Kanto Ok, I didn't want to admit to that, but it actually happened 3 times to me, because I kept forgetting. So yeah, that is definitely how it works
yea it repeats all the summon effects
so the thorned hollow gives itself +hp so the imp gives itself +hp
things like the imp giving armor to the front unit still gives armor to the front unit as that is the summon ability of that imp
I once gave the transcendimp thorns on an awoken run. Only to completely forget how he works and cast him first, for a 1/1 thorns unit.
NL neglecting Engine Upgrade even though he plays architect penumbra and he never filled up all the floors anyways.
And seconds before that he complained about energy issues.
It was his first time considering architect. you cant get mad at the guy for not seeing every potential combo right away. Personally engine upgrade was the golden card for me, thought it to be too slow like berzerk in StS
Transcendimp gives the summon effects to itself. You woulda had a 1/41 imp my dood
Who adds +2 capacity to his floor on top of that.
It will have 40 max health but still come in as a 1/1(41)
But it will enhance the floor with + 2 capacity, which can be a good effect
I appreciate the sentiment (and capacity matters) but a 1/41 sounds terrible late game
@@Northernlion you just need to use it as a bodyguard for another imp that's 41/1 obviously. The imp society is complex and nuanced.
@@Northernlion I mean, he's not saying you should do it, just telling you how it works since you seemed to think it would give thornboi more hp.
"These draws dude."
-Man who never picks up extra draw
Realizing immediately when you died in that last fight shows good understanding of the game. Keep up the progression. Good series.
57:44, NL preserved thorns is an excellent addition to your line up for a magic power deck, it's a free spell, which gives 3 free spells! Give it a shot next time, otherwise **He's Learning!**
There's always a smile on my face when I see an hour-long video. Thanks!
The afternoon just isn't complete without some POGGED Monster Train runs. Thanks, NL!
That Chumbawumba @33:00 . The 5head thinking capacity of this guy man. I can't.
The morsel maker going on the bottom floor would have been a good play @14:00 , because it would constantly be feeding something +health and +damage morsels that you otherwise would barely be giving morsels. Morsel maker isn't for your big gorge floor, it's for the floor where you can't fit morsels due to capacity.
"I don't think restore will do much for you"
A card that triggers off of restore.
NL: takes weird unsupporting cards into the deck instead of logical combo cards
NL: Loses the run
NL: *surprise pikachu face*
Gets the support abillity with his champion and plays him on an empty floor , oh NL
If there is one thing I wish NL would do more often it's wait on upgrading units at the beginning. You don't have to fill out upgrade slots immediately. Sometimes waiting for better upgrades is worth it. For example, the tank at the beginning of the second run. The largestone was amazing, but then you put spikes 4 on it, something that can be achieved on that unit with literally one ember. Then you put damage 10 on it when that unit could do much more damage by living longer (which could be achieved by waiting to give it HP+25). Nothing wrong with being patient sometimes.
I love how NL calls damaging units but not killing them 'slowing them down'
Hey NL I know you get a lot of criticism over these videos, and I don't want to say anyone is right or wrong. But I also think it should be said that these videos as well as the comments have helped me improve a lot at the game. Thanks for bearing the brunt of all that criticism, for our entertainment and so we can all learn together.
Most people just want to help him to be the best egg we know he can be, I honestly see more constructive advice than "haha, look at what he did". Not 100%, but at least 80%
@@SlavaRybka sometimes it's frustrating to see the misplays but most of the times it just ends up being hilarious - still try to give him tips though in hopes he sees haha
I believe you had the right idea on the first run, just the wrong order.
Running your awoken units (tank and sweep) on first floor then gorge units on 3rd would have worked a bit better in this particular run. Sweep removes little guys and makes him strong...gorge gets time to get stronger
Im a big fan of this "guy who doesnt care about things" impression
NL if you read this just a tip with the umbra cards which emberdrain you apply them on morsels so they are gorged at the end of the turn effectively removing the emberdrain
Just wanted to say, I love these types of deck builders! Pog up boys!
Recommendation. Recommend. Best. Great video. Interested. Interesting. Other words that would make YT pay this man more money.
Really enjoying this series! I like that you don't mind showing your losses and let us see your thought process. I may just have to pick up the game based off of watching you play! Seems like a blast.
General tip - don't feel obligated to fill all 3 floors with units. Often it's better to concentrate everything on two floors (although rarely one). For an example - a floor with 1 offense unit and 2 tanks is better than a floor with an offense and a tank, and another with a tank and nothing else
Yes NL, let's build a spell focused run against a final boss that yeets your spells. Genius
This is probably one of my favourite series Nl has ever made
Let’s absolutely go. Good series, even better titles
Haven't watched yet, just here to say I hope everyone has a pogged up day
You too!
NL, you were definitely figuring it out on your own at the end of the first run so nice job, but the main benefit of the architect champion is being able to make one single floor that’s better than 2 or 3 normal floors. You just don’t want to get stuck thinking you have to fill multiple floors because it’s how to play most of the time. Victory is coming!
Good vid NL. General feedback from Cov25 player, don't feel obligated to have multiple functional floor. It is generally more efficient to run 2 good floors or 1 super floor. glhf
NL spikes are basically another form of AoE for Awakened. By placing a spike unit and the slay trigger sweeper on the same floor you had your spikelord eat up all the potential triggers you could've gotten on it.
In general you had three big AoE lords with the spiketank, the slay sweeper and the shadowgorger. That was overcomitting on deal with backline units and not dealing with any frontline tanky stuff.
Oh boy 1 pm!! Fav content I look forward to everyday!! 🥺
What did the draw boss relic ever do to this man? Ending every turn with extra energy for no reason
For some reason I love watching NL play Stygian
The spiked hollow was taking all the slay triggers from your sweep unit first run. It was getting beefed when it could slay all the small boys before.
I won a Cov 20 with the Trample Umbra champ and nothing but 7 double-stacked copies of the rage/damageshield/emberdrain card. Even with Seraph debuffing me my champ was around 550/50 with 80 stacks of damage shield left and trample. ABSURD
Transcendimp repeats the Architects summon ability and gets you even more floor space on whichever floor you play the imp.
ah yes the ultimate monster train experience... watching you play monster train while playing monster train myself
Hour long episode HYPPEE!
I see you NL, responsibly skipping cards to keep your deck focused. That's some good plays right there!
Fair warning I'm a minute in. He always takes the "X+3" artifact as if it were the best thing in the game even when there's no evidence to support it. How many runs has he taken this artifact and never added an X card? This time he started with one but is it really worth it? With an Umbra primary, tons of things are going to gorge. It's a "zero logic" choice.
Unfortunate end to a really good run. Looking forward to tomorrow's epsiode!
Despite some choices, this looked like a win. That last fight draw completely robbed us of the mystical stygian win.
Biggest oof in the second run was taking energy twice. Rarely did you even use all your energy, but the lack of draw killed you. Especially poignant in the last fight where you needed specific things early.
Health is more important than spike on your tank units, and yes this includes the thorn hollow. You don't have to keep every unit alive just because you can, sometimes it's worth losing a unit if you can make another floor much stronger
You keep forgetting about molluscmage, if you had it on your incant floor instead of the Armor totem, that’s an additional 7 per spell. With spell weakness, plus the relics you had, that was an enormous amount of damage you left on the table for 1 Armor per incant. The Armor would’ve benefited your frost tank so you could have focused more restores on spikes. Although at the end of the day you lost because of bad draw. Either way thank you for the video :)
X cards +3 is better than gorge abilities trigger twice with Umbra champion? This is why I come for this series, the comedy is real.
Generally you will want minions like mullosc mage to come *after* your spellweakness floor, NL. The 7 spellpower from mollusc mage get's multiplied too, so the card can be potentially many times more useful if you place it later.
8:06 Not only that but the Architect champion's ability is a summon ability so you'd get even more capacity. It is a pretty funny interaction IMO.
Gotta love when he's in the middle of explaining why he won't take the energy relic and his pogged mind clicks on it anyways.
Upgraded Sweep Boy, nice job, tiny backline units are sorted babe.
Spikes Healy Mans, ok there is your scaling method for killing bosses if you get some better regen, but he is gonna cannibalize your Slay triggers and you can't add Quick anymore. I guess that is fine it is like, the best Awoken unit.
Useless Gorge Ball, the reason this video is an hour long isn't because it involves a win, is it?
Hey NL, shattered shell, shadoweater, and Thorned hollow all serve similar purpose in wiping trash mobs with Thorned being a tank on top of that, if you've got one the other two are unlikely to do well because they're all fighting, shattered shell especially as it needs chumps to start scaling and actually doing work.
57:45 This mans really turned down Bramble Lash while having a Thorned Hollow, two Sharpens (One w/ doublestack), and a champ with spell weakness...
Its damage is TEN TIMES the spikes.
On the fight right before, you had one unit with 16 spikes and another with 18, that's 160-180 damage, stick it all on one unit and it's 340, 2 spell weakness and that's 1020 damage!
THE MADMAN!
Hey NL great stuff but FYI never set up a spell weakness floor on the third floor. You need a floor after the spell weakness floor to blast em
59:50 The hardest choices require the strongest wills
No, don't worry, the "s" in prismal is silent 😂. This man and his names for things...
Edit: as a side note, NL, if you played Transcendimp and it repeated the max HP gain, the *Transcendimp* would gain the max HP, NOT the Thorned Hollow.
Seeing the relics, units and upgrades the games offers you, it's trying really hard to make you win.
Loving the series though. Looking forward to seeing you beat all clans at covenant 25. It will be a glorious day.
NL thinks the Imp makes all summon effects repeat on original units while in fact it's the imp who gains them making it 1/1(61) hp imp in this case xx luv u egg.
I'm only 13 minutes in, and the choices are already making my brain tremble.
Don't get me wrong, I'm still enjoying it and it makes me a better player too.
Buuuuuuuut:
Disregarding the best Umbra artifact as first choice when playing as Umbra primary
Spikes + sweep (At least it gets healers and can be made up for with quick[Not when you fill up on crap upgrades])
Building on the bottom floor when you don't need to
Taking Shadowgorger, a sweep tank, when you already have a sweep unit and a spike tank
Skipping Bramble Lash while having plenty of spikes
Completely disregarding the Seraph's penalty
Keep in mind most of these are common occurrences and not just limited to this run.
Use morsels on gorge units exclusively. It is bad advice but NL does the opposite which is worse imo.
Never use spell weakness units on the last floor, it is useless.
Keep it up, you are learning. One step at a time (even if it is in the wrong direction).
The Fel that applies scourges can be a trap into thinking your deck needs more energy when it actually doesn't because of the 2-cost scourges being an energy tax.
pretty much everywhere, you're respite is gonna be brief? then i don't need a jacket
Cool Tip: 29:45 you cant not get that unit in the first turn. Monster Train has a "hidden" mechanic which is preferred draw, meaning your picked units will be drawn in the first few turns of combat. Since you only have one picked unit you are guaranteed to draw it on the first hand ;)
Yes this is another reason channelsong is trash.
*/has a large spiky boi and several units and cards with spikes/*
NL: we don't have a big spike play
We should get a count going of how many times NL says "it is what it is" throughout this series. I think it's got to be at least 3 per episode, but it is what it is.
The madman passed on double gorge so he could have extra damage shield.
Video timeline preview bringing the pain.
Monster Train? More like Monster Trainwreck. Ahhahaha.... erm. Here is a list of things to look out for.
>not taking gorge relic (Bonus you had gorge champ) Gorge relic makes everything with said ability do it twice. Double everything gorge effect. Fuel. Life steal, shields. Everything. If you use a spike on it it's F O U R T I M E S.
>upgrading sweep units and using all their spaces when not fishing for a quick (Which you by 1st boss)
>Not taking trans imp with summon effects. While the hollow gives the imp +40 hp, you can use the imp with the architect to gain more space as it too is a summon effect.
>not taking animus of will (Personal preference)
>Putting Damage shield upgrade on a tank that's going to get hit all the time forever. Damage shield is better on throwaway block units.
>taking the shadow eater with low morsel generation and a tank already. Shadow eater should go on floor 1 and then put the hollow up top and stack heals on it.
>playing spikes on backline units. You want to play them on tanks unless they are multi strike as you are getting 1/2 value or it'll die in 2 seconds.
>With no quickness on the husk enemies die to thorns before it attacks to get slay triggers.
>Using damage shield on frontline tanks. You should stack these free shields on dps backliners.
>You have to avoid playing morsels vs sweep units if you cannot shield them. Especially ones that gain +attack on slay.
There we did it.
"That's just the first run."
"Pog" - some morsel
yay im glad he realized he can put the gorger and penumbra on the same floor :)
This is one of the most cursed runs so far and only 15 minutes in lmao all aboard for the rest of the episode
Missed out on that endless Titan Sentry, rip
He's finally experimenting with giving something other than basic cards to the purge event!
we love to see the hour long episode, thanks egg
Great video man! Keep up the steady content.
Yeah, maybe puting a spike unit in front of a sweep/slay unit isn't the best idea. Mechanic driven gamer lost in mechanics. Keep poggin' Ryan!
THE MADMAN ACTUALLY DIDN'T TAKE THE DOUBLE GORGE ARTIFACT
Hey NL, Damage Shield doesn't work with Spikes or Revenge mechanics. Armor does, though, for some reason.
Keep truckin dude, hope to see you beat Covenant 25 one day!
Just try to remember those early shadowgorgers are valuable NL! It's a permanent damage increase over the whole run when it gorges so you have a real beast at the end (morsel maker + master means a minimum of +8 damage/turn for the whole run!). I haven't seen you really invest in this card in a run so I'm hoping one day you might try it out.