I have the same bike, except mine is a 29er. The first thing I did was upgrade to a Sountour Epixon. Then, the dropper. Is the absolute best bike in its price range.
Oh nice! Thanks for sharing. Oh cool, how are you liking the Epixon? Yeah I’d like to do a dropper too but maybe further down the road! Glad you are liking yours
I just got this bike! Was impossible to find locally, called every Marin dealer here and several states over… ended up just ordering it online and having it assembled by my local Marin dealer. Ended up paying more but like everything there is a huge shortage in my area on mountain bikes and I didn’t miss a season of riding !
Thanks for sharing and congratulations on your purchase! Yup, we just got some in recently but have been high demand for over a year now. Glad you could find one and get riding. Make some fun memories
I've got this bike in a 29er. Its tremendous fun. Its the first bike I've had in decades, and my first mountain bike. It could be my lack of experience, but it feels very fast to me. After riding it for a little over 100 miles, I think I'd be cautious about upgrades. I could see improving the stock tires, but dropping more money on a fork and drivetrain seems like it would be better placed in savings for a more substantial overall bike in a few years. Don't get me wrong, its really good starter.
Thanks for sharing and congrats on the bike. Glad you are enjoying it! Yeah, most of our customers do leave it stock and you will be fine leaving it stock. We do have some customers that do like to upgrade right away and so that is why we are going to do some upgrades so they can know their options. If the rain will finally stop falling in Houston, I can go film the upgrade! Take care
My 2020 black bobcat 3 which is exactly the same has been fully upgraded with: brand x dropper, 1x11 slx drive train, rockshox recon fork, deore 6100 2pot brake set with 180 rotors, spank 20mm rise bars and a set of new tires. Also the contact points grips, pedals saddle etc.
I just bought this exact bike on sale for €499. I already have an Advent X on my old bike, will be swapping that over. I bought the Marin for the more modern geo, longer fork travel, mainly for the frame really. On my old 27.5 bike I have the 100mm Epixon so will be getting the same probably but will adjust to 130mm. Happy days.
Thanks for the question. We did another video a year or so ago comparing the 3 at the shop (if that helps). In summary though, unless you are in love with one of the bobcat 3 colors, I'd go to the 4. Everything is identical basically minus the drivetrain. So for $100 you get a 1x9 drivetrain with a clutch derailleur... so single chain ring up front, big cassette in the back. This will lighten up your bike a bit, make shifting easier, and be quieter and stronger if you intend on using it a good amount off road. Good luck!
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Nice! You should! Bobcat has gone up in price unfortunately (huge shipping increases), but is still a great bike to consider. The new Bobcat 4 “should” be arriving soon to us which has a 1x drivetrain standard. More expensive though, so just make sure to compare both. Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks for the comment. Yeah I want to do a 1x ASAP too but the fork seemed to bother me more which I wasn’t expecting. 🤔. Glad to hear the Altus lasted you for a good while without issue though
Hey Matt, appreciate it. Welcome to Houston MTB! We want to do some group rides soon (if it will stop raining!). Follow us on Instagram and Facebook and we’ll post when we do a group ride and you are welcome to come out!
I love everything about my medium 2020 Bobcat Trail 3. The geometry is awesome and the blue/pink/yellow color scheme looks cool. The only upgrade I’ve made is a PNW dropper post which really improved my trail riding experience. Good job, Marin! That chain slapping sounds familiar!
sorry for delayed response. Oh no, weird! We had some that got loose, but not fall apart. Anyways in case you still need. Length is 127.5, 68mm, BC 1.37 x 24T. Hope that helps
Thanks for the comment and glad you are looking to get into MTB! Both great bikes for a beginner. The Rockhopper has 9 speeds vs the 8 speed on the bobcat 3. Brakes are the same, both frames have routing for a dropper post (if you ever wanted to add one). The geometry is a bit different. The Rockhopper is more steep (68 degrees vs 67 on the bobcat). This will mean the bobcat will feel a bit more stable going down hill. Forks are basically the same but the bobcat has an extra 20mm of travel (may not matter to you but a difference). You can’t go wrong with either honestly and may come down to color. I would also though consider the Bobcat 4 model. It costs $100 more but comes with a 1x9 Microshift Advent clutch derailleur which is better and makes shifting a lot easier. We do a lot of 1x drivetrain conversions and it is a popular upgrade. You could always do it later to the Bobcat 3 (or the rockhopper) but you’ll end up paying more. Just something to consider. Good luck!
Great video 🙂👌👌 I m still confused though.... I m confused about Bobcat trail 3 vs Trek Marlin 5 , 6 Vs Marin Bolinas Ridge. I m 42 years with a history of disc herniation and wanna use a bike to commute a few days a week and to drive through farms n through rural mud roads n stuff. Right now there is a waiting period of few months for Trek bikes. What would you suggest I opt for being a beginner? Thank you.
Thanks for the comment and sorry for the delay. Bobcat 3 is very similar to the Trek Marlin 6 while the Marlin 5 is more like a Bolinas Ridge. I’d go for a Bobcat 3 or Marlin 6 and since you have to wait a few months for Treks, if you can find a Marin, sooner I’d go that route. I think you’d be happy with the Bobcat 3 for what it looks like you are needing it for
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Good question. If you’re comparing to the Bobcat 3, then the Comp would be a better buy however the Bobcat 4 is almost identical to the comp as far as specs although the comp has better hydraulic brakes in my opinion. I think I prefer the geometry on the bobcat over the comp (a bit slacker and less up right). Either one though would make a great beginner trail bike. May come down to price or color. Good luck!
I weigh 53kg and i think the fork works well for me except its hardtail so when on gravel condition downhill it give some parkinson experience anyway i love this marin bobcat trail 3
Thanks for the comment. Yeah that is a popular comparison among our customers. Bobcat is more Trail/XC with 67.5 headtube angle, straight head tube, lighter. San Quentin is more aggressive with beefier frame, tapered head tube (so stiffer), and more aggressive angle (65). If you are in to more downhill and jumping, go San Quentin. Normal trail riding/xc riding, go bobcat.
nice video i'm looking at the wildcat 3 trail female bike . i have a 27.5 batch hybrid bike no form of shocks on it i feel every bump at 53 . the bike is solid put 3 k miles on it mainly canal towpath rider almost totally . i want the wildcat 3 mainly to ride trails with some roots little bridges there building new upgrades to the towpath current trail coughs has several sink holes that bury my bike almost to the axel in mud like 8 coughs well my batch bike is not liking it nor my bottom bracket . can the bobcat or wildcat 3 handle these type of terrains . i'm past riding windrock Tennessee i was thinking a trek 5 or 6 womens marlin bike just on the fence
Thanks for your comments and question and glad you are wanting to upgrade form the hybrid. Hybrids are fine for certain people but it sounds like you need something more off road focused. Regarding going in that much mud, the bottom brackets are sealed but can still get dirt in there. Sometimes the noises you hear may not be in the bottom bracket, but other parts of the drivetrain like the crankset. Either way, a wildcat or a marlin are tougher bikes overall but even high end bikes don’t like to be buried in mud so I’d say that won’t change much upgrading. What will change though is having a bike with more traction, suspension, better brakes (hydraulic) and better geometry. Difference between the Marlin and the Wildcat: In my opinion the frame on the Wildcat feels and is built better than the Marlins I’ve seen. The gloss fit and finish just feels higher quality than the matte finish on the Marlins. The Wildcats also have a dropper post routing IF you ever wanted to add one (if not don’t worry about that). The components on both however are the same. Main differences come with the frame geometry as the Marlin is more upright for cross country use and the wildcat is more of a trail bike so may feel a bit more confident going down hills. Either brand I think will give you an upgrade so may come down to color and/or availability. Good luck!
@@BikingRoots i think you sealed which bike i want now . i have been avoiding that bad section of the trail do to the new upgrades hoping my sink holes are a thing of the past with the addition of new trail . i'm a daily rider towpath is across the street from my work my normal ride snow rain dry is around 22 miles i like to ride i want little less pounding on my arms . i normally stay out of deep mud puddles, another matter . your video is very informative along with your reply so honest and awesome the wildcat trail 3 will be coming home to me just not bike rental orange or blue although blue and pink might match my red and blue lights and reflectors
i waited and acquired a Marin Wildcat 3 large would have preferred the Wildcat 5 but at a closeout price of $458 i shut my mouth silently paid for it not a huge trade off now the fun of putting it tog there will happen thanks again for the video hopefully when the snow stops covering the trails here with 16 inchs of snow i can resume riding more than ever
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Good question. The newest Talon 2 (if you can find one) is a pretty sweet buy. $685 for basically a bobcat but with 1x9 Microshift Advent drivetrain. Heck of a deal and I’d go for that one personally. Talon 3 is lesser quality and more like a Bolinas Ridge, not a bobcat as far as components/quality. Good luck
Hello! Thanks for your comment and question. Good question and good comparison. Personally I’d go for the Bobcat (or Wildcat 3 which is the women’s version if she wants a little lower top tube) mainly because the frame has a cleaner look with more cables internally routed and a more slack frame design. 67.5 vs 69 degree head tube angle. If you live somewhere where you have more steep sections, the bobcat/wildcat will feel more confident going down hill than the polygon just due to the nature of the frame design since the polygon is more XC and bobcat/wildcat a bit more trail oriented if that makes sense. Drivetrain and components are basically the same so no advantage/disadvantage there. Sometimes it also just comes down to color and availability! Hope that helps and good luck!
Hi seen a few questions about comparing bikes, what do you think about the rocky mountain fusion 10 vs the bobcat? RM is maybe more aggressive with the 66* head tube? Not sure if that makes a difference in real life.
Looks like the RM Fusion 10 is a solid bike and would compare more with the Bobcat 4 (2022 version). Drivetrain is basically the same, yes the head tube is a bit more slack on the Rocky but it also only has 100mm of travel in the fork (Bobcat has 120). Just a difference, not necessarily good or bad. I will say the Fusion comes with 4100 shimano brakes it looks like which are much better than the Tektros that come on the Bobcat in my opinion. I’d say either bike will be a lot of fun and may just come down to color and availability. Good luck!
This is the bike I've got my eye on, I wish I would have pulled the trigger a year or so ago. With them being inflated to $819 it makes it a lot harder to pull the trigger on. From what I've come across, this seems to be the best bang for the buck for someone looking to get into the sport. Here's to keeping my fingers crossed I can find a gently used one or they come down in price 🤙
Thanks for your comment. Yeah I know the price jumped a ton when shipping when out of control. It looks like the pricing isn’t coming down anytime soon unfortunately. Yeah see if you can find one used or if you do buy new, I’d go for the bobcat 4 (the new one with a 1x9 drivetrain standard). They cost $919 but you get the 1x and clutch. Good luck!
Sorry for the delay, we’ve been super busy moving to a new shop and the holidays. I’m not familiar with the Silverback stride but looking at some specs online assuming I was looking at the right one, shows it to be a pretty nice build. It would compare more with the new Marin Bobcat Trail 4 which also has a 1x drivetrain. Brakes are the same, geometry is very similar. The only thing I didn’t see was if it has routing for an internal dropper post (which the Marins have). That may not matter to you and you could always just do an external one but since the rest of the bike is internal, it could look a bit off. Just something to find out or think about. Good luck!
I got the Bobcat 4 for $649 right before the pandemic bike shortage. My wife got the Bobcat 5. My recommendation to anyone looking into them is to get either the Bobcat 3 or the Bobcat 5 - stay away from the Bobcat 4. The 3 and 4 will eventually take the same amount of money to upgrade, so with the 3 you'll be starting with a smaller initial investment. If you can afford it (and find it) the Bobcat 5 out of the box is a great bike.
Thanks for your comment, that’s sweet you got them before the pandemic. We’ve been waiting for 5s to arrive for a year! Maybe the 2022s will finally show up. Speaking of 2022, Marin is supposed to make some changes to the 4 which will make it a better buy for a lot of people. Yes I agree though, unless it’s a color preference, get the 3 or the 5. My only issue with the 5 is upgrading the fork due to the thru axle front hub. It’s tough to find a straight steerer 100mm thru axle air fork.
@@BikingRoots that sounds good for the 4! It’s just in this awkward middle ground right now. True with the fork on the 5. Shame it’s a thru axle straight, but it’s one of the better coil forks I have dealt with, pretty plush and it has preload AND rebound. So the idea is for my wife to ride it out for as long as possible (for the riding she does, we’re not clamoring to upgrade) and then look for a XFusion Enix and a front QR wheel.
Where are you located? Yeah they used to be $699 then shortly after this video they went up to $819 unfortunately. Hopefully they’ll come back down when the shipping mess gets sorted out
Good question. You’d be fine on the Polygon but for me (maybe because I’ve ridden them and sell them) but I prefer the Bobcat. The frame is nicer and has internal cable routing and the head tube angle is more slack so more comfortable and stable when going down hills if that’s important to you. Another deciding factory also may be that with the Bobcat you can probably find a dealer and go try one out while Polygon is just sold online to my knowledge so more challenging to size and also to potentially get service after the fact if you have some warranty issue down the road. Just some things to think about. Good luck!
sorry for the delayed response. Good question. I haven’t looked too into the Kent, assuming it has double wall wheels, then it isn’t a bad option IF you fit on it properly. I believe it comes in only 1 size? Usually common with these types of bikes which if you fit in that most common size, you’re good, but for others it stinks when you buy and ride a bike that doesn’t fit you. I like that it has a 1x9 drivetrain which the bobcat 3 obviously does not. The brakes are better on the bobcat though since you get hydraulics, the mechanicals on the Kent are probably pretty bad (if they’re like a lot of cheap ones I see). Marin gives you a lifetime frame warranty which is another plus and from some retailers (which I hate to mention since it undermines my business), are on sale for like $550 right now!
Thanks for the comment and question. The Bobcat 3 is kind of in between the Rockhopper Sport and the Comp. The Bobcat 4 is more of a direct comparison to the Rockhopper Comp which has a 1x drivetrain
I bought one a week ago but have a question. Is it possible to get a seat dropper to fit flush at max insertion and still get around 130mm of travel? The water bottle top cage screw only gives max internal length of around 220mm so I think seat dropper options may be limited.
Thanks for your questions and a good question at that. We just did one of these a few weeks ago and I’m pretty sure we got it flush (or at least close). It was on a med 27.5 bobcat 3. What size is your bike? We used the PNW Ranier Gen 3 which has a very short insertion depth and then a travel adjustment option so you can get it at the right height. It allows 30mm of adjustment (in 5mm increments) so I’d order the 150mm version, then adjust it down to 130mm. Good luck!
@@BikingRoots Thanks for the reply, I ride a large frame 29er. I've come from a 27.5 and I'm shocked at how poised and agile the Bobcat is. I was expecting 29ers to feel more unwieldy, but I'm managing to throw it around as well as my old bike. I'm planning to put a dropper on it and upgrade to a 1-12 groupset, although they are proving difficult and expensive to source in the UK. Could you recommend a model for me to hunt for snappier and more responsive shifting ?
@@garystorey As far as a 12 speed groupset, your best bet is probably going with SRAM NX Eagle which would allow you to use your existing rear wheel. If you’re open to less gears, there are 8, 9, and 10 speed options from Microshift that are an inexpensive option and work well. Sometimes you can also find some older Shimano 10 speed systems (with clutches) that could give you some better performance.
Good question. Depends honestly how big you are. 780 bars are shipped with all of them despite their size knowing that people will cut for their personal size and riding area and style. I personally like 760 or 780 bar, some people like a shorter cut. My wife likes 720 bars. I usually recommend trying it for a couple weeks if it feels to wide or you are clipping trees in narrow singletrack, cut 10mm off each side and see how it feels after that. You can always cut more, but can’t put more on!
I got the 2021 San quieten 1 and am looking to upgrade the fork. Should I go with a rockshox Judy with 130mm of travel or a recon with 120mm of travel. Or would you recommend something different
If you can afford the up front cost with the Recon, then I would do that over the Judy since the Recon is stiffer with bigger stanchions and can handle more abuse which the San Quentin is kind of designed for. Don’t forget you’ll need to also upgrade the headset as the stock San Quentin 1 comes with a straight steerer fork with a 1.5” reducer to 1 1/8 lower bearing and race. Good luck!
Hey so sorry for the delay, not sure what happened and probably too late. As far as a beginner bike, yes the Bobcat is a great bike and have had a lot of customers do more jumps and extreme things then I would do on it without any frame issues. Upgrades it is good up to a point. I would say drivetrain, fork, brakes, not too difficult. Wheels not really worth upgrading in my opinion and also difficult to get nice wheels that will work with quick release non boost. Hope it helps. Let me know if you have any other questions
sorry for the super late reply. So bolinas has a shorter freehub body that the cassette mounts to which limits the options of cassettes you can install. Sunrace makes an 11 speed cassette that will work with it but still tracking down a model number for it. Shimano cassettes work but only 7 speed, not 8-12. You can buy a different rear wheel if you are set on modifying the drivetrain (one that comes with a bit longer freehub body). Hope that makes sense. Sorry it gets confusing sometimes!
I would say you should be fine. I’m sure your local bike shop is willing to work on other bike brands than they sell and Marin is flexible if there was some warranty issue down the road which isn’t too likely. Good luck!
Hello, thanks for the question. The highpoint run $950 so a bit more than the bobcat 3. It does have a 1x standard though so that’s an advantage. The Bobcat 4 (2022) is a more direct comparison and a little cheaper. Both nice bikes though
Hi, there is a bobcat trial 3 in my area for £500 and a trek x calibier 7 2021 for £700. I want to do long trails which do you think will be better? Thanks
Thanks for your comment and question. For roughly $276 US difference I’d go with the Trek and then you are done and don’t have to upgrade anything. To bring the Bobcat 3 up to the level of the x caliber 7 you will spend more than 200 quid. With the Trek you are getting an air fork (big expense), better brakes (shimano), and a 1x10 drivetrain w/ clutch. Good luck!
@@BikingRoots Ah okay, thanks for the advice! I heard they are both good beginner bikes but was sure which was better. Will go with the trek thank you!
Yeah, orange or white would look cool on that blue! Yeah not for everyone. Maybe next year they’ll have some different colors. 2022 will keep these colors
You can, we've done a few of them... Just have to tape them up with some tubeless tape, pop in a tubeless valve, and then some tubeless tires... The stock tires are not tubeless tires FYI
Hey, thanks for the question. Personally I'd go for the 3 unless you just like the colors of the 4 (2021 versions). The 2022 Bobcat 4 will have a 1x drivetrain but also will cost a lot more. The Bobcat 5 is nice but you could probably build up a bobcat 3 or 4 to be better for less money
@@BikingRoots you know, i was thinking the same buy the bobcat trail 3 and put it slx or deore, but at he same time, i yave doubt if the frame and head tube angle is good in the 3 , and also i dont wann get rid of the new componet of the 3.
Just FYI, the frame quality and head tube angle is the same on all 3 bobcats but I understand not wanting to have to take off new parts after buying it
Timberlane trail in spring area near aldine westfield north of 1960 in the Timberlane subdivision. Should show up on google maps. Lots of cool things have been added since this video. Go check it out!
Much better than 2021 Marlin 5. 2022 is almost the same component wise. A couple differences IF they are important to you are that the Bobcat 3 has a 120mm of travel vs 100 on the Marlin, Bobcat 3 has wider handlebars 780 vs 720. So small differences. The biggest difference is in the geometry of the two frames. The Bobcat 3 has shorter chain stays and a slacker headtube angle by 2 degrees so more of a trail bike and more confident going down hills. The Marlin 5 is steeper so you will be more upright and over the front wheel which some may want while others do not want. Can’t go wrong with either depending on what’s important to you and/or in stock. Good luck!
2021 models, I prefer the bobcat 3 since it was $70 cheaper and only difference was 8 vs 9 speed. The new 2022 Bobcat 4 however comes with a 1x drivetrain from the factory so it is now worth the upgrade in my opinion if you have the budget. Good luck!
hello, sure depending on how far you are commuting. Since it is a mountain bike you are further over the front wheel but not like a road bike. If you are just commuting, I’d probably throw on some less knobby road oriented tires… Good luck!
Should be only $70 difference 700 vs 770. Really the only difference other than colors is the drivetrain goes to a 9 speed vs the 8 speed with the Bob 3
Bobcat 5 or a Bobcat 4 and then add an air fork to it. Or, if you like harder more aggressive riding, then maybe look into the 27.5 san quentin which is $1k
@@BikingRoots oh this will make an total of 1300 $ or should i buy marida big trail 400 it has everything what's your take on its frame if u have any idea or u can tell by looking at the specs or geo
@@curiositycatalyst2929 I was referring to putting an air fork on the Bobcat 4 which would make it around $1k. The Marida Big Trail 400 looks cool. It has a coil fork but a more aggressive geometry, looks like a fun bike too! Has a tapered head tube vs the straight head tube on the Bobcats. It’s more similar to the San Quentin (except the San Quentin is only 27.5 only)
@@BikingRoots thanks but it has xcr air fork Air 140mm suspension travel Tapered lockout 51mm fork offset I don't know about bobcat what is the average life of these entry level mtbs ?
@@curiositycatalyst2929 Yeah if it has an air fork then that’s a plus. Average life on the entry levels just depends honestly on how hard you ride it or how big you are. Components will wear out over time if you use them a lot but everyone is different.
They are ok for not super technical trails but a lot of people end up upgrading them to something with more grip. I’d say give them a spin and see what you think, then choose accordingly. In summary, they’re adequate but not anything special
Between the 3 and the 4, other than the colors, the only difference is 9 speed drivetrain on the 4 and 8 speed on the 3. For 2022 (which we are yet to receive), they are going to a 1x9 drivetrain for the Bobcat 4 but it will be a lot more expensive. As far as the 5, the front fork is a little better as far as coil forks go (bigger stanchions), better brakes, tires, and also a 1x11 drivetrain. Hope it helps!
Ha! Great ideas! I know I somehow always end up being the one to clear them. At least on this trail they are small. There’s another trail here in Houston that has huge banana spiders. Those really creep me out!
That’s a good bike to compare. Polygon makes some very competitive bikes and you can’t go wrong with either Marin or Polygon in my opinion. At $799, you are $100 more for the Polygon. The frame and most of the components look identical with fork (same), brakes (same). One of the only differences I see is a 10 speed rear drivetrain vs the 8 speed on the Bobcat 3 (Bobcat 4 is 9 speed). The 10 speed has more range but you still have a front derailleur so not a big advantage there. Out of the box if you just want 10 speeds, don’t mind the extra $100 for that, then get it. If you are planning on upgrading to a 1x soon after, then I’d rather put the $100 towards a 1x8 or 1x9 drivetrain setup (with a clutch derailleur). With the polygon you’ll still need to upgrade the crankset, if you can find a 10 speed derailleur with a clutch, you could reuse the chain and the rear cassette. Hope it helps. Good luck!
Yup, sure can! At least from what I’ve seen from a couple of our customers. They aren’t big guys but have done some pretty nice jumping even with the stock Bobcat!
You actually showed up needing Air and rubbing cables! You are 5 minutes into the video and haven't yet mentioned the bike! Lef's get the show on the road.
Yes for most people. They spec them knowing people will cut them down to size (which we do pretty often). I’m glad at least they are standard and don’t mind cutting.
Ha! A lot of girls do like it too so I guess that's true. I guess I like it because it's like 90s retro and flashy haha so takes me back to my childhood
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What upgrade would you do first to your Marin Bobcat Trail 3?!
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Thanks yeah, that would be a cheap upgrade since the stock ones are not lock on. We shall see…
I have the same bike, except mine is a 29er. The first thing I did was upgrade to a Sountour Epixon. Then, the dropper. Is the absolute best bike in its price range.
Not really in a hurry to change the drivertrain. I would rather get better tires first.
Oh nice! Thanks for sharing. Oh cool, how are you liking the Epixon? Yeah I’d like to do a dropper too but maybe further down the road! Glad you are liking yours
Marin bikes are just fantastic. I bought the Bobcat 3 and I LOVE IT!!!
Awesome! Congrats on the purchase! Glad you are enjoying it so much. To more bobcat memories!
I just got this bike! Was impossible to find locally, called every Marin dealer here and several states over… ended up just ordering it online and having it assembled by my local Marin dealer. Ended up paying more but like everything there is a huge shortage in my area on mountain bikes and I didn’t miss a season of riding !
Thanks for sharing and congratulations on your purchase! Yup, we just got some in recently but have been high demand for over a year now. Glad you could find one and get riding. Make some fun memories
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Got this exact bike as a 29er this year. I am in love with the frame geometry. It feels so good on the trail.
Thanks for sharing and congrats on the bike! Have you left it stock or have you changed anything on it?
that's what I'm currently looking at....
I've got this bike in a 29er. Its tremendous fun. Its the first bike I've had in decades, and my first mountain bike. It could be my lack of experience, but it feels very fast to me. After riding it for a little over 100 miles, I think I'd be cautious about upgrades. I could see improving the stock tires, but dropping more money on a fork and drivetrain seems like it would be better placed in savings for a more substantial overall bike in a few years. Don't get me wrong, its really good starter.
Thanks for sharing and congrats on the bike. Glad you are enjoying it! Yeah, most of our customers do leave it stock and you will be fine leaving it stock. We do have some customers that do like to upgrade right away and so that is why we are going to do some upgrades so they can know their options. If the rain will finally stop falling in Houston, I can go film the upgrade! Take care
I absolutely love this bobcat, the color really POPS ❤️
Nice, yeah I do to. Our customers are usually split with love it or hate it! Looks like they’re keeping it around for another year on the Bobcats
My 2020 black bobcat 3 which is exactly the same has been fully upgraded with: brand x dropper, 1x11 slx drive train, rockshox recon fork, deore 6100 2pot brake set with 180 rotors, spank 20mm rise bars and a set of new tires. Also the contact points grips, pedals saddle etc.
Thanks for sharing, sounds like a sweet build! Our build will not be as nice but should give people some options. Have fun with it!
Thanks dude 👍
Fantastic video and an Amazing bike I have just bought a 2021Marin bobcat trail 4 stunning bike as you would expect from Marin
My friend just bought this bike for only 480 €, which is around 520 usd. Great bike for that price.
Oh heck yeah! Nice, hope he likes it!
I got this brand new for just USD 330 earlier this year 😊
I just bought this exact bike on sale for €499. I already have an Advent X on my old bike, will be swapping that over. I bought the Marin for the more modern geo, longer fork travel, mainly for the frame really. On my old 27.5 bike I have the 100mm Epixon so will be getting the same probably but will adjust to 130mm. Happy days.
Nice, congrats on the new purchase! Sounds like it will be getting some nice upgrades soon! Have fun on it. Cheers
Another great video. I don't know why but I'm always surprised at how much you can tell us about the bikes.
Thanks! Ha, well I should more know about them but I forget and/or say the wrong thing sometimes. Appreciate the support!
How does the Marin 3 compare to the Marin 4. Looking at both but unsure as to which one
Thanks for the question. We did another video a year or so ago comparing the 3 at the shop (if that helps). In summary though, unless you are in love with one of the bobcat 3 colors, I'd go to the 4. Everything is identical basically minus the drivetrain. So for $100 you get a 1x9 drivetrain with a clutch derailleur... so single chain ring up front, big cassette in the back. This will lighten up your bike a bit, make shifting easier, and be quieter and stronger if you intend on using it a good amount off road. Good luck!
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Nice to hear about your Mint Hawk Hill! Yes they often do make some pretty bikes. Thanks for the comment
I have this exact bike but in red absolutley stunning as you would expect from Marin
Oh no way, awesome man, looks good in red!
Nice video! Thinking about getting into mountain biking and buying a bobcat too😊
Nice! You should! Bobcat has gone up in price unfortunately (huge shipping increases), but is still a great bike to consider. The new Bobcat 4 “should” be arriving soon to us which has a 1x drivetrain standard. More expensive though, so just make sure to compare both. Let me know if you have any questions.
Glad you made scott put his helmet on 🙏😇👍
Haha, you know it!
Great video Evan! I REALLY want to go ride out there! We just need to make the trip! 😍
Thanks Lisa! It’s no Bentonville, but it has some fun and scenic trails. Short though so you probably want to plan another trail as well! Take care
I would get rid of that front derailleur and 1x. I had good luck with my atlus 8 speed, no issues for 1.5 years. Then upgraded. A decent air fork.
Thanks for the comment. Yeah I want to do a 1x ASAP too but the fork seemed to bother me more which I wasn’t expecting. 🤔. Glad to hear the Altus lasted you for a good while without issue though
This bike good for beginners
Yes, great bike for beginners! If you can sit on one and get the sizing right, I think you’ll enjoy it
@@BikingRoots thanx man
The blue Marin reeks of 80’s neon tracksuit/bmx style and that’s why I want it
Ha! Nice yeah I like it too!
Nice video! How often do you ride? I'm in the Houston area new to the mtb world and don't have anybody around me who rides unfortunately
Hey Matt, appreciate it. Welcome to Houston MTB! We want to do some group rides soon (if it will stop raining!). Follow us on Instagram and Facebook and we’ll post when we do a group ride and you are welcome to come out!
@@BikingRoots sweet! I don't use any social media or anything but maybe I'll see you out riding at some point!
I love everything about my medium 2020 Bobcat Trail 3. The geometry is awesome and the blue/pink/yellow color scheme looks cool. The only upgrade I’ve made is a PNW dropper post which really improved my trail riding experience. Good job, Marin! That chain slapping sounds familiar!
Thanks for the comment about your Bobcat! Go blue! Nice job on the PNW dropper and glad you are liking the bike! Have fun
Do you know what botton bracket is in this Marin Bobcat 3.(dimensions)?This info is not in specification. After 10 months, botton bracket fell apart.
sorry for delayed response. Oh no, weird! We had some that got loose, but not fall apart. Anyways in case you still need. Length is 127.5, 68mm, BC 1.37 x 24T. Hope that helps
Really cool I literally looked up a video for this and the first video I click on is from the shop I’m trynna buy it from 😭
oh no way! That doesn’t happen very often! Let us know if we can help!
Great video! I’m looking at the Bobcat 3 and the Rockhopper Sport to get into MTB. Which one would you say is best?
Thanks for the comment and glad you are looking to get into MTB! Both great bikes for a beginner. The Rockhopper has 9 speeds vs the 8 speed on the bobcat 3. Brakes are the same, both frames have routing for a dropper post (if you ever wanted to add one). The geometry is a bit different. The Rockhopper is more steep (68 degrees vs 67 on the bobcat). This will mean the bobcat will feel a bit more stable going down hill. Forks are basically the same but the bobcat has an extra 20mm of travel (may not matter to you but a difference). You can’t go wrong with either honestly and may come down to color. I would also though consider the Bobcat 4 model. It costs $100 more but comes with a 1x9 Microshift Advent clutch derailleur which is better and makes shifting a lot easier. We do a lot of 1x drivetrain conversions and it is a popular upgrade. You could always do it later to the Bobcat 3 (or the rockhopper) but you’ll end up paying more. Just something to consider. Good luck!
Hi Evan I’ve been really enjoying the hawk hill jr 26
That’s great! Yeah such a sweet bike. Have you taken it out of state yet or just local rides?
Just local but tomorrow I’m riding Sedona bike park, On a rental though
Wow! That would be awesome! I’ve never ridden in Sedona but have heard great things. Have fun and be safe!
Got the XL 29a- 4, 6'5 n lil over 100kg and it rides great.
Thanks for the comment and glad to hear you are enjoying it! Where are you located?
Great video 🙂👌👌
I m still confused though.... I m confused about Bobcat trail 3 vs Trek Marlin 5 , 6 Vs Marin Bolinas Ridge.
I m 42 years with a history of disc herniation and wanna use a bike to commute a few days a week and to drive through farms n through rural mud roads n stuff. Right now there is a waiting period of few months for Trek bikes. What would you suggest I opt for being a beginner?
Thank you.
Thanks for the comment and sorry for the delay. Bobcat 3 is very similar to the Trek Marlin 6 while the Marlin 5 is more like a Bolinas Ridge. I’d go for a Bobcat 3 or Marlin 6 and since you have to wait a few months for Treks, if you can find a Marin, sooner I’d go that route. I think you’d be happy with the Bobcat 3 for what it looks like you are needing it for
@@BikingRoots Thank you so much. Truly appreciate it 🙂
Hey... got the Bobcat Trail 3.... and truly enjoying it 🙂🙂🙂
Thank you once again🙂
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Between the Rockhooper sport and this bobcat , what’s better , your personal opinion ¿
Good question. If you’re comparing to the Bobcat 3, then the Comp would be a better buy however the Bobcat 4 is almost identical to the comp as far as specs although the comp has better hydraulic brakes in my opinion. I think I prefer the geometry on the bobcat over the comp (a bit slacker and less up right). Either one though would make a great beginner trail bike. May come down to price or color. Good luck!
I weigh 53kg and i think the fork works well for me except its hardtail so when on gravel condition downhill it give some parkinson experience anyway i love this marin bobcat trail 3
Awesome, thanks for sharing!
I just got a bobcat trail 3, I'm hoping my husband will get me a new fork for Christmas
Oh nice! Well, I hope he does as well. Drop some hints!
Ordered this arrived tomorrow
Oh nice, congrats! Hope you have fun on it!
Bobcat vs San Quentin 1… price isn’t an issue but would love to save cash if the upgrade isn’t meaningful enough.
Thanks for the comment. Yeah that is a popular comparison among our customers. Bobcat is more Trail/XC with 67.5 headtube angle, straight head tube, lighter. San Quentin is more aggressive with beefier frame, tapered head tube (so stiffer), and more aggressive angle (65). If you are in to more downhill and jumping, go San Quentin. Normal trail riding/xc riding, go bobcat.
Marin ( by far ) makes the prettiest bikes in history .
They have had some pretty ones over the years
nice video i'm looking at the wildcat 3 trail female bike . i have a 27.5 batch hybrid bike no form of shocks on it i feel every bump at 53 . the bike is solid put 3 k miles on it mainly canal towpath rider almost totally . i want the wildcat 3 mainly to ride trails with some roots little bridges there building new upgrades to the towpath current trail coughs has several sink holes that bury my bike almost to the axel in mud like 8 coughs well my batch bike is not liking it nor my bottom bracket . can the bobcat or wildcat 3 handle these type of terrains . i'm past riding windrock Tennessee i was thinking a trek 5 or 6 womens marlin bike just on the fence
Thanks for your comments and question and glad you are wanting to upgrade form the hybrid. Hybrids are fine for certain people but it sounds like you need something more off road focused. Regarding going in that much mud, the bottom brackets are sealed but can still get dirt in there. Sometimes the noises you hear may not be in the bottom bracket, but other parts of the drivetrain like the crankset. Either way, a wildcat or a marlin are tougher bikes overall but even high end bikes don’t like to be buried in mud so I’d say that won’t change much upgrading. What will change though is having a bike with more traction, suspension, better brakes (hydraulic) and better geometry. Difference between the Marlin and the Wildcat: In my opinion the frame on the Wildcat feels and is built better than the Marlins I’ve seen. The gloss fit and finish just feels higher quality than the matte finish on the Marlins. The Wildcats also have a dropper post routing IF you ever wanted to add one (if not don’t worry about that). The components on both however are the same. Main differences come with the frame geometry as the Marlin is more upright for cross country use and the wildcat is more of a trail bike so may feel a bit more confident going down hills. Either brand I think will give you an upgrade so may come down to color and/or availability. Good luck!
@@BikingRoots i think you sealed which bike i want now . i have been avoiding that bad section of the trail do to the new upgrades hoping my sink holes are a thing of the past with the addition of new trail . i'm a daily rider towpath is across the street from my work my normal ride snow rain dry is around 22 miles i like to ride i want little less pounding on my arms . i normally stay out of deep mud puddles, another matter . your video is very informative along with your reply so honest and awesome the wildcat trail 3 will be coming home to me just not bike rental orange or blue although blue and pink might match my red and blue lights and reflectors
i waited and acquired a Marin Wildcat 3 large would have preferred the Wildcat 5 but at a closeout price of $458 i shut my mouth silently paid for it not a huge trade off now the fun of putting it tog there will happen thanks again for the video hopefully when the snow stops covering the trails here with 16 inchs of snow i can resume riding more than ever
Hey!! of course, I watch the videos and I don't know about you but I've been working at the shop... you should try it sometime... (jk pls don't fire me)
Working once every couple weeks doesn’t count! And, I had to show you the video since you don’t watch them 😂
Between this Bike, Giant Talon 2, Giant Talon 3, wich one is the better?
Good question. The newest Talon 2 (if you can find one) is a pretty sweet buy. $685 for basically a bobcat but with 1x9 Microshift Advent drivetrain. Heck of a deal and I’d go for that one personally. Talon 3 is lesser quality and more like a Bolinas Ridge, not a bobcat as far as components/quality. Good luck
Hi mate I'm trying to decide between the Marin bobcat trail 3 and the Polygon Premier 5 for my wife's first bike? What would be your opinion?
Hello! Thanks for your comment and question. Good question and good comparison. Personally I’d go for the Bobcat (or Wildcat 3 which is the women’s version if she wants a little lower top tube) mainly because the frame has a cleaner look with more cables internally routed and a more slack frame design. 67.5 vs 69 degree head tube angle. If you live somewhere where you have more steep sections, the bobcat/wildcat will feel more confident going down hill than the polygon just due to the nature of the frame design since the polygon is more XC and bobcat/wildcat a bit more trail oriented if that makes sense. Drivetrain and components are basically the same so no advantage/disadvantage there. Sometimes it also just comes down to color and availability! Hope that helps and good luck!
Hi seen a few questions about comparing bikes, what do you think about the rocky mountain fusion 10 vs the bobcat? RM is maybe more aggressive with the 66* head tube? Not sure if that makes a difference in real life.
Looks like the RM Fusion 10 is a solid bike and would compare more with the Bobcat 4 (2022 version). Drivetrain is basically the same, yes the head tube is a bit more slack on the Rocky but it also only has 100mm of travel in the fork (Bobcat has 120). Just a difference, not necessarily good or bad. I will say the Fusion comes with 4100 shimano brakes it looks like which are much better than the Tektros that come on the Bobcat in my opinion. I’d say either bike will be a lot of fun and may just come down to color and availability. Good luck!
@@BikingRoots very true, finding a bike is half the battle now! Thanks for the comment
This is the bike I've got my eye on, I wish I would have pulled the trigger a year or so ago. With them being inflated to $819 it makes it a lot harder to pull the trigger on. From what I've come across, this seems to be the best bang for the buck for someone looking to get into the sport. Here's to keeping my fingers crossed I can find a gently used one or they come down in price 🤙
Thanks for your comment. Yeah I know the price jumped a ton when shipping when out of control. It looks like the pricing isn’t coming down anytime soon unfortunately. Yeah see if you can find one used or if you do buy new, I’d go for the bobcat 4 (the new one with a 1x9 drivetrain standard). They cost $919 but you get the 1x and clutch. Good luck!
The are on Bikes Online for $750
Got mine for $500 shipped to my door. Happy with it so far.
thinking between this Bobcat Trail 3 vs 2021 Silverback Stride 29" Sport Bike. Any feedback would be gr8!
Sorry for the delay, we’ve been super busy moving to a new shop and the holidays. I’m not familiar with the Silverback stride but looking at some specs online assuming I was looking at the right one, shows it to be a pretty nice build. It would compare more with the new Marin Bobcat Trail 4 which also has a 1x drivetrain. Brakes are the same, geometry is very similar. The only thing I didn’t see was if it has routing for an internal dropper post (which the Marins have). That may not matter to you and you could always just do an external one but since the rest of the bike is internal, it could look a bit off. Just something to find out or think about. Good luck!
@@BikingRoots Thanks Evan! Appreciate your taking the time :)
I got the Bobcat 4 for $649 right before the pandemic bike shortage. My wife got the Bobcat 5. My recommendation to anyone looking into them is to get either the Bobcat 3 or the Bobcat 5 - stay away from the Bobcat 4. The 3 and 4 will eventually take the same amount of money to upgrade, so with the 3 you'll be starting with a smaller initial investment. If you can afford it (and find it) the Bobcat 5 out of the box is a great bike.
Thanks for your comment, that’s sweet you got them before the pandemic. We’ve been waiting for 5s to arrive for a year! Maybe the 2022s will finally show up. Speaking of 2022, Marin is supposed to make some changes to the 4 which will make it a better buy for a lot of people. Yes I agree though, unless it’s a color preference, get the 3 or the 5. My only issue with the 5 is upgrading the fork due to the thru axle front hub. It’s tough to find a straight steerer 100mm thru axle air fork.
@@BikingRoots that sounds good for the 4! It’s just in this awkward middle ground right now. True with the fork on the 5. Shame it’s a thru axle straight, but it’s one of the better coil forks I have dealt with, pretty plush and it has preload AND rebound. So the idea is for my wife to ride it out for as long as possible (for the riding she does, we’re not clamoring to upgrade) and then look for a XFusion Enix and a front QR wheel.
Really, i cannot upgrade the fork in the 5, ? I thought it has the same frame!
@@j.s9875 you can, it’s just an unusual type of fork they put on it. It’s a straight steerer with a thru axle.
@@UnPolacoLoco ok, i am gonna chek wtf is that, eventhou it comes with a decent fork right? Ai 120mm
I have the same bike in mine was $950
Where are you located? Yeah they used to be $699 then shortly after this video they went up to $819 unfortunately. Hopefully they’ll come back down when the shipping mess gets sorted out
Which should I get Polygon Premier 5 or This?? I mostly ride on the road but some occasional trails.
Good question. You’d be fine on the Polygon but for me (maybe because I’ve ridden them and sell them) but I prefer the Bobcat. The frame is nicer and has internal cable routing and the head tube angle is more slack so more comfortable and stable when going down hills if that’s important to you. Another deciding factory also may be that with the Bobcat you can probably find a dealer and go try one out while Polygon is just sold online to my knowledge so more challenging to size and also to potentially get service after the fact if you have some warranty issue down the road. Just some things to think about. Good luck!
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Kent trouvaille vs the bobcat 3?
sorry for the delayed response. Good question. I haven’t looked too into the Kent, assuming it has double wall wheels, then it isn’t a bad option IF you fit on it properly. I believe it comes in only 1 size? Usually common with these types of bikes which if you fit in that most common size, you’re good, but for others it stinks when you buy and ride a bike that doesn’t fit you. I like that it has a 1x9 drivetrain which the bobcat 3 obviously does not. The brakes are better on the bobcat though since you get hydraulics, the mechanicals on the Kent are probably pretty bad (if they’re like a lot of cheap ones I see). Marin gives you a lifetime frame warranty which is another plus and from some retailers (which I hate to mention since it undermines my business), are on sale for like $550 right now!
How’s this bike compare to a specialized rockhopper? I’m riding canons out in california
Thanks for the comment and question. The Bobcat 3 is kind of in between the Rockhopper Sport and the Comp. The Bobcat 4 is more of a direct comparison to the Rockhopper Comp which has a 1x drivetrain
I wish I knew what the good stuff felt like.
You will my friend, just do it! Or come to Houston and come ride. Or go to a demo day that shops or companies have in your area
I bought one a week ago but have a question. Is it possible to get a seat dropper to fit flush at max insertion and still get around 130mm of travel?
The water bottle top cage screw only gives max internal length of around 220mm so I think seat dropper options may be limited.
Thanks for your questions and a good question at that. We just did one of these a few weeks ago and I’m pretty sure we got it flush (or at least close). It was on a med 27.5 bobcat 3. What size is your bike? We used the PNW Ranier Gen 3 which has a very short insertion depth and then a travel adjustment option so you can get it at the right height. It allows 30mm of adjustment (in 5mm increments) so I’d order the 150mm version, then adjust it down to 130mm. Good luck!
@@BikingRoots Thanks for the reply, I ride a large frame 29er.
I've come from a 27.5 and I'm shocked at how poised and agile the Bobcat is.
I was expecting 29ers to feel more unwieldy, but I'm managing to throw it around as well as my old bike.
I'm planning to put a dropper on it and upgrade to a 1-12 groupset, although they are proving difficult and expensive to source in the UK.
Could you recommend a model for me to hunt for snappier and more responsive shifting ?
@@garystorey As far as a 12 speed groupset, your best bet is probably going with SRAM NX Eagle which would allow you to use your existing rear wheel. If you’re open to less gears, there are 8, 9, and 10 speed options from Microshift that are an inexpensive option and work well. Sometimes you can also find some older Shimano 10 speed systems (with clutches) that could give you some better performance.
i have one question is 780 mm handlebar too big, is it too uncomfortable for long rides?
Good question. Depends honestly how big you are. 780 bars are shipped with all of them despite their size knowing that people will cut for their personal size and riding area and style. I personally like 760 or 780 bar, some people like a shorter cut. My wife likes 720 bars. I usually recommend trying it for a couple weeks if it feels to wide or you are clipping trees in narrow singletrack, cut 10mm off each side and see how it feels after that. You can always cut more, but can’t put more on!
I got the 2021 San quieten 1 and am looking to upgrade the fork. Should I go with a rockshox Judy with 130mm of travel or a recon with 120mm of travel. Or would you recommend something different
If you can afford the up front cost with the Recon, then I would do that over the Judy since the Recon is stiffer with bigger stanchions and can handle more abuse which the San Quentin is kind of designed for. Don’t forget you’ll need to also upgrade the headset as the stock San Quentin 1 comes with a straight steerer fork with a 1.5” reducer to 1 1/8 lower bearing and race. Good luck!
@@BikingRoots thank you and I already got a new headset due to your other video
Hey I'm thinking about getting this is it a good frame and geometry for jumps and bike parks and is it good for getting upgrades on?
Hey so sorry for the delay, not sure what happened and probably too late. As far as a beginner bike, yes the Bobcat is a great bike and have had a lot of customers do more jumps and extreme things then I would do on it without any frame issues. Upgrades it is good up to a point. I would say drivetrain, fork, brakes, not too difficult. Wheels not really worth upgrading in my opinion and also difficult to get nice wheels that will work with quick release non boost. Hope it helps. Let me know if you have any other questions
@@BikingRoots thank you this helps alot actually ill probably get it soon then
i have bolinas ridge 1. will it fit wide cassettes? does it support shimano cassettes?
sorry for the super late reply. So bolinas has a shorter freehub body that the cassette mounts to which limits the options of cassettes you can install. Sunrace makes an 11 speed cassette that will work with it but still tracking down a model number for it. Shimano cassettes work but only 7 speed, not 8-12. You can buy a different rear wheel if you are set on modifying the drivetrain (one that comes with a bit longer freehub body). Hope that makes sense. Sorry it gets confusing sometimes!
ive got a local bike shop but they don't carry the bike im looking at. i can get one 2 hours away but is that a bad idea?
I would say you should be fine. I’m sure your local bike shop is willing to work on other bike brands than they sell and Marin is flexible if there was some warranty issue down the road which isn’t too likely. Good luck!
@@BikingRoots thanks
Between marin bobcat trail 3 and jamis highpoint a2 which one is the better option?
Hello, thanks for the question. The highpoint run $950 so a bit more than the bobcat 3. It does have a 1x standard though so that’s an advantage. The Bobcat 4 (2022) is a more direct comparison and a little cheaper. Both nice bikes though
Hi, there is a bobcat trial 3 in my area for £500 and a trek x calibier 7 2021 for £700. I want to do long trails which do you think will be better? Thanks
Thanks for your comment and question. For roughly $276 US difference I’d go with the Trek and then you are done and don’t have to upgrade anything. To bring the Bobcat 3 up to the level of the x caliber 7 you will spend more than 200 quid. With the Trek you are getting an air fork (big expense), better brakes (shimano), and a 1x10 drivetrain w/ clutch. Good luck!
@@BikingRoots Ah okay, thanks for the advice! I heard they are both good beginner bikes but was sure which was better. Will go with the trek thank you!
Why do they use pink? Orange or white is so much better.
Yeah, orange or white would look cool on that blue! Yeah not for everyone. Maybe next year they’ll have some different colors. 2022 will keep these colors
can you go tubeless with that original wheel?
You can, we've done a few of them... Just have to tape them up with some tubeless tape, pop in a tubeless valve, and then some tubeless tires... The stock tires are not tubeless tires FYI
@@BikingRoots thanks for the help- new to the world- I'll get me some tubeless tires
Just enjoy to hear you say weeee😄
haha, thanks. It was usually unintentional and then one of my old mechanic’s made fun of me for it so now I try to keep them to a minimum… ha!
I want a bike . Ok ?
I love it 🙏
Should i gonfor the 3 4 or 5 if i have the opportunity?
Hey, thanks for the question. Personally I'd go for the 3 unless you just like the colors of the 4 (2021 versions). The 2022 Bobcat 4 will have a 1x drivetrain but also will cost a lot more. The Bobcat 5 is nice but you could probably build up a bobcat 3 or 4 to be better for less money
@@BikingRoots you know, i was thinking the same buy the bobcat trail 3 and put it slx or deore, but at he same time, i yave doubt if the frame and head tube angle is good in the 3 , and also i dont wann get rid of the new componet of the 3.
Just FYI, the frame quality and head tube angle is the same on all 3 bobcats but I understand not wanting to have to take off new parts after buying it
What helmets are you guys using ?
7idp m5. Orange is discontinued now but they still sell black/grey, red, and blue
Looks tough not a plain street bike, looks like she'll take a few jumps before I snap something 😂👍
Yeah she is. Have sold a bunch of them and many have been pretty well tested without any warranty issues so they are solid!
What Trail was this?
Timberlane trail in spring area near aldine westfield north of 1960 in the Timberlane subdivision. Should show up on google maps. Lots of cool things have been added since this video. Go check it out!
Better than Marlin 5 ?
Much better than 2021 Marlin 5. 2022 is almost the same component wise. A couple differences IF they are important to you are that the Bobcat 3 has a 120mm of travel vs 100 on the Marlin, Bobcat 3 has wider handlebars 780 vs 720. So small differences. The biggest difference is in the geometry of the two frames. The Bobcat 3 has shorter chain stays and a slacker headtube angle by 2 degrees so more of a trail bike and more confident going down hills. The Marlin 5 is steeper so you will be more upright and over the front wheel which some may want while others do not want. Can’t go wrong with either depending on what’s important to you and/or in stock. Good luck!
Nice video
Thanks man, appreciate it!
I love those texan trails .
Is altus better than alivio?
No, technically alivio is above altus but from my experience the difference isn’t too noticeable until you get into deore with a clutch
@@BikingRoots is alivio better than acera?
Whats bike better bobcat 3 or 4 ?
2021 models, I prefer the bobcat 3 since it was $70 cheaper and only difference was 8 vs 9 speed. The new 2022 Bobcat 4 however comes with a 1x drivetrain from the factory so it is now worth the upgrade in my opinion if you have the budget. Good luck!
Ho! So you think it could also be used for commuting?
hello, sure depending on how far you are commuting. Since it is a mountain bike you are further over the front wheel but not like a road bike. If you are just commuting, I’d probably throw on some less knobby road oriented tires… Good luck!
Is it air fork
No, stock is a Suntour xcm coil fork.
Theres bob 4 only on my dealer, anyone can tell me whats the difference between the 2 with 110$
Should be only $70 difference 700 vs 770. Really the only difference other than colors is the drivetrain goes to a 9 speed vs the 8 speed with the Bob 3
What if ihave 1000$ what is your suggestion
Bobcat 5 or a Bobcat 4 and then add an air fork to it. Or, if you like harder more aggressive riding, then maybe look into the 27.5 san quentin which is $1k
@@BikingRoots oh this will make an total of 1300 $ or should i buy marida big trail 400 it has everything what's your take on its frame if u have any idea or u can tell by looking at the specs or geo
@@curiositycatalyst2929 I was referring to putting an air fork on the Bobcat 4 which would make it around $1k. The Marida Big Trail 400 looks cool. It has a coil fork but a more aggressive geometry, looks like a fun bike too! Has a tapered head tube vs the straight head tube on the Bobcats. It’s more similar to the San Quentin (except the San Quentin is only 27.5 only)
@@BikingRoots thanks but it has xcr air fork Air
140mm suspension travel
Tapered
lockout
51mm fork offset
I don't know about bobcat what is the average life of these entry level mtbs ?
@@curiositycatalyst2929 Yeah if it has an air fork then that’s a plus. Average life on the entry levels just depends honestly on how hard you ride it or how big you are. Components will wear out over time if you use them a lot but everyone is different.
are stock tyres good?
They are ok for not super technical trails but a lot of people end up upgrading them to something with more grip. I’d say give them a spin and see what you think, then choose accordingly. In summary, they’re adequate but not anything special
@@BikingRoots I mostly ride straight bumpy/grail road, so I think they will not be a big problem to me, but yeah, thanks for the info
yeah you’ll be fine. Good luck
Does anybody know the difference between this and the 4 or 5?
Between the 3 and the 4, other than the colors, the only difference is 9 speed drivetrain on the 4 and 8 speed on the 3. For 2022 (which we are yet to receive), they are going to a 1x9 drivetrain for the Bobcat 4 but it will be a lot more expensive. As far as the 5, the front fork is a little better as far as coil forks go (bigger stanchions), better brakes, tires, and also a 1x11 drivetrain. Hope it helps!
Thanks mate 👍
I have the bobcat trail 3 too overall its an amazing bike. I ride it like its a full sus 😃
thanks for the feedback and glad you are enjoying it!
@@BikingRoots welcome 🙏
You need a tree limb mount on your bars for them stinking spider web's..or pay some random guy to go first lol
Ha! Great ideas! I know I somehow always end up being the one to clear them. At least on this trail they are small. There’s another trail here in Houston that has huge banana spiders. Those really creep me out!
Compare with polygon xtrada 5 2021
That’s a good bike to compare. Polygon makes some very competitive bikes and you can’t go wrong with either Marin or Polygon in my opinion. At $799, you are $100 more for the Polygon. The frame and most of the components look identical with fork (same), brakes (same). One of the only differences I see is a 10 speed rear drivetrain vs the 8 speed on the Bobcat 3 (Bobcat 4 is 9 speed). The 10 speed has more range but you still have a front derailleur so not a big advantage there. Out of the box if you just want 10 speeds, don’t mind the extra $100 for that, then get it. If you are planning on upgrading to a 1x soon after, then I’d rather put the $100 towards a 1x8 or 1x9 drivetrain setup (with a clutch derailleur). With the polygon you’ll still need to upgrade the crankset, if you can find a 10 speed derailleur with a clutch, you could reuse the chain and the rear cassette. Hope it helps. Good luck!
That help alot and one more thing can we jump with this bike?
Yup, sure can! At least from what I’ve seen from a couple of our customers. They aren’t big guys but have done some pretty nice jumping even with the stock Bobcat!
I ordered this bike today can't wait to get my hands on it 😁😁
@@payiokadena2251 Awesome congrats! Hope you like it
You actually showed up needing Air and rubbing cables!
You are 5 minutes into the video and haven't yet mentioned the bike!
Lef's get the show on the road.
Yup, that’s me! Sorry, that’s kind of the nature of my videos, but will try to make them more beneficial for you
@@BikingRoots They are plenty good.
I am enjoying them.
Thanks
Handlebars far too wide. Components on cheaper bikes
Yes for most people. They spec them knowing people will cut them down to size (which we do pretty often). I’m glad at least they are standard and don’t mind cutting.
before 5 veiws lol
Nice! Appreciate the support
looks like a girls bike
Ha! A lot of girls do like it too so I guess that's true. I guess I like it because it's like 90s retro and flashy haha so takes me back to my childhood
Your otherwise excellent videos would be much better if you would stick to the subject.
Ha! Sorry, my brain doesn’t work that way