A Terrible Fat Ebike Will Never Have These 2 Features | Rattan Pathfinder Review
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The Rattan Pathfinder fat tire electric bike has 2 rare but useful features that I haven't seen on any other ebikes under $2,000 so far. Overall the Rattan Pathfinder is an above average ebike, and in my opinion (if price is a factor in your decision) there's at least a couple other fat ebikes you should take a look at before you buy an ebike (if the 2 or 3 main differentiating features on this electric bike aren't particularly important to you):
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I’ve heard that the regenerative motor feature has been removed from this bike in the comment section here due to problems with it, causing the motor to fail. At this point in time I can’t really recommend this bike anymore after hearing about these motor failures in the comments.
How do you know if your discharging battery to fast?
Would you recommend it at the current Black Friday sale price of $1249, considering the disabled regenerative function would no longer cause motor failures?
@@WBBClips would NOT recommend this bike. Rattan has made MAJOR improvements since, including better branded components, and a Torque Sensor
@@TheTankTestwould not? You put all those good things about the bike. Wondering if this was a mistake
It probably backing off the power when going slow to not cook the motor. If the motor is not moving and your pumping in 1000w you're just creating a heating element at that point, it will melt the copper windings fast. It's a safety feature not a bug.
that's true
More likely saving the controller and BMS.
It's a soft start feature so you don't lurch (hole shot) off the start, but erroneously activating in this case. It needs a bit more programming.
I've had this bike for about a year, There's a known issue where the battery gauge just doesn't work well... if you power it off and back on, the percentage will go up. I will get 36.75 miles of range on a full battery. They also disabled the re-gen braking shortly after your video and mine did not come with that option even if you turn it on.
@TailHappyTV Oh man Matt, I LOVE your reviews, such HQ! Liked all seen so far..BUT this Rattan Pathfinder deserves a FAIR SHAKE! ️This is the MOST FULL FEATURED EBIKE on your channel Ive seen and has at least 5 BONUS FEATURES that most other ebikes dont have! ie. 15 Level SPEED CONTROL! (Normal, Sport, Eco, 3x5) Regen Braking w/Hydraulic Disk Brakes! Front Hydraulic Suspension w/ Remote Lockout! Color LCD w/ APP! 3A Fast Charger! 1200 Peak Watts/80nm! , 400lbs load capacity!😳 The only thing missing is rear suspension! Starting the review with only a 86% charge battery (in garage) when others were full is not fair to anyone esp. prospective buyers like ME!? 🤦♂ No parking garage incline at different modes? You didn't turn off the Cruise control. Slow start set on 2 (didnt change). No weight given for the bike? No long uphill climb like the Velotric Nomad? This ebike DEFINITELY deserves a more in-depth review over any other (w/ a better title like SUPREME QUALITY, than rhetorical "Terrible Fat Ebike"?! 😆) based on the 15 mode speed control and app ALONE! (turn OFF cruise control), and battery endurance (at FULL charge we could see how good REGEN IS?!) PLEASE 😎👍 ps. Despite all that I liked the video and will use your links. *No I don't work for Rattan, just AMAZED at their QUALITY and Yes they should be paying affiliates $$ for purchases!
Nice one Bro, thank you. The name alone is pure kickass - "Pathfinder". Although the Rattan 'Kickass' also has a certain vibe...
Yet another e-bike destroyed by the 20% grade test! I love that you do this for every bike, I purchased the Wired Freedom based on its pure domination of your grade/sand testing and it has happily lived up to every bit of your review!
I bought this on your review, sadly the kinetic regen isn't enabled any longer, but it's a good bike lots of power.
Do you know if this bike has a cadence or torque sensor? Thank you.
@@Gilagain54 cadence, I wish it had a torque
@@AZebikerider that’s what I figured, the price would be at least another $400 if it was torque. Is there that much of a difference?
Cop: “I saw you roll through that stop sign.” “Yeah?; but I was in regen mode.” “Oh okay then.” (says no cop ever).
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Who full stops at stop signs? I mean, rarely, but typically I drop to 7ish and pedal through.
Just so everyone knows the regen braking is no longer a thing on the pathfinder. I just received mine and it wasn’t working so I sent them a message about it and was told this…
“The regen function is gone, we reprogrammed the controller and cancel this function. We found that this function recharges little power to the battery, and actually, this will decrease the life of the motor, so we decided to cancel this function. Canceling the regen function will not be a problem for the normal use and it will extend the life of motor.”
Yup! Regen used to be more common on early E-Bikes but was largely abandoned because they found it's relatively useless, adds more complexity, cost, wear on the motor, and creates more warranty issues. Simply coasting, even moderately, will save way more energy than you will ever regen from a bicycle.
@@booobtooober it's still a nicely priced e-bike. 1400 after postage isn't that bad for what you get.
Sad. Hopefully we get bikes with regen in the not too distant future. Perhaps only temporarily to start moving again after a few seconds.
@@justcommenting4981 we already have ebikes with regen braking, they're all direct drive hubs.
Thanks to this video, I became interested in rattan. I'm now awaiting my Pathfinder to arrive and will be creating some media content for Rattan!!!
Dare you to use the rattan as a bobber
@@TailHappyTV Wth is a bobber? 😅
@TailHappyTV idk if that's a joke, or if I should just throw it in the water 😂
@TailHappyTV right now it's more of a sinker... two months of use and had a freak experience where the rear wheel, the hub rotated and ripped the wiring unplugged and the harness got frayed and damaged to the point of where it no longer works... customer service has left me high and dry
You should do a commuter/road test like you do on these ebikes using bottom tier priced E-MTB as from Canyon, Vitus, Giant, Marion, Trek, Orbea...........to see how they work as a dual purpose street bike. Just do the street test. See the range and handling as they are so much lighter and better components. Be curious the range of these in pure street mode.
you have Slow Start on 2 when you leave the garage, and when your speed decreases, the power also decreases :)
In Austria we only have Himiway and a couple of other fat ebike retailers... i'd rather go for an ariel kepler or a rattan like this! So unfortunate they do not ship here
I have only just started watching you videos... do the Hollywood sign run on this using the regen to enable yo to get home.
Nice bike and review. New subscriber to your channel. Thanks.
curious how this compares to the Velotric Nomad 1? Rattan states on their website the motor is 750W with 1200W peak output. Yet your parking garage incline test with throttle only was not successful from a hard stop. But the Velotric Nomad 1 made the climb with an indicated 1200W on the display under the same conditions. Rattan also states 80nM of torque vs Nomad's 76nM. Any idea why the Rattan didn't have the oomph to make it up the incline? would love to see a head to head test with the Nomad 1 ;-)
Weaker controller on the rattan and or gearing on the motor
@@TailHappyTV Rattan has a 8 speed Shimano and app customizable sine wave controller, theres no reason it shouldnt be able to outperform the Nomad 1?! This why I left the comment above regarding doing a more FULL review of the Pathfinder and exploring its features fully, then a Pathfinder vs. Nomad 1 shootout is a must see! 😎
I always use regen on my electric cars. Going down the Continental Divide, I saw 3-4 miles of range added to my Tesla battery. I like that feature on this bike.
It's a nice looking bike which appears to be well-made, but the remote suspension lockout seems like a pointless feature. To me the regen braking looks good but the battery life does't seem to reflect any advantage from it.
I have been waiting to see an e-bike with regenerative breaking.
I feel like it’s gonna become a lot more standard, moving into the future, apparently these new geared motors, have the ability to do it
How is it that so many don't know how to spell BRAKING?
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@@TailHappyTV lol something like dat
What’s your thoughts on best 26inch fat tire for your height. I’m around 275 at 6’3”. I’m looking between the rattan pathfinder, lectric xpeak, and the heybike brawn. Or any other suggestions you have.
I really do love these videos, but I'm always like, "dude, how many bikes do you have? I have a single ebike and that took a bit of saving up to get."
Thanks 🙏 I enjoy creating these reviews. I’m currently at 21 e-bikes I think 😆 anyone interested in weekly/daily ebike rentals in West LA drop me a comment, easy access to beach riding and much better rates than you’ll find at the beach 🏝️ 😎
@@TailHappyTV 21 ebikes. You should invite over 20 friends and do a group ride video.
@@iscootct bold of you to assume I have 20 friends 😆
@@TailHappyTV OMG! You win today's best TH-cam comment award.
bro I thought it was just me. Took me 3 months of saving to get my first ebike lol. Crazy how these small youtubers get sent free bikes like it's candy.
this re-gen bike really needs to be ran on your hilly circuit to the hollywood sign. this would really show if that regen really makes a difference. could you please make another video on this one?
It really makes a very small difference, and it has been disabled on this bike. They don’t sell it with Regen anymore.
I wonder how they are doing regen with a geared hub motor as they typically freewheel with motor off.
great question! I don't know how exactly it works... new tech
@@TailHappyTV is there any reason at all that they use braking versus just powering the thing off and harvesting the 200watts to recharge the battery the same way you can power exercise bikes or take literally any motor and turn it into a generator.
I customised my bike to turn the motor off with either a tap of the brake or a tap of the throttle to cut the motor and slow down kinda like down shifting without actually losing any momentum. That allows me to use the throttle precisely or the pedals precisely versus both which is kinda confusing and I can slow down like down shifting a car without sapping any energy away by actually braking to waste no energy.
I ride daily and charge once a week and only use my brakes the same way you try to use your brakes as little as possible while driving a car.
I can pedal while the motor is off and the motor is spinning. Gotta keep inspecting the circuitry to add a second battery to charge passively as a reserve that I can switch to but I got cold feet and keep wondering about the capacitors and if everything is wired correctly to work to allow the bike to not accidentally backfeed power and blow the board.
Has something changed in hub motor power output? That looks like a 500 watt hub motor. I thought you said it is a 750 watt hub motor.
Can you please review a bike that’s available in Canada if you can?
I’m sure something will come up, I don’t really choose bikes based on where they’re sold specifically usually. Do you have any models in mind?
Regen braking is cool and should soon be standard on E- bikes. What I really want to see become standardized soon especially on these fat tire"off road bikes" are batteries that can be charged directly through solar panels
Regen used to be common but was largely abandoned because it's relatively useless on bikes. It adds more complexity, cost, wear on the motor, and another warranty issue. Simply coasting, even moderately, will save way more energy than you will ever regen from a bicycle.
Now that's a Rattan I can support!
Question: I'm 50, 6'1" and 300 pounds... Hoping to get back into bicycle riding to hopefully get back in shape. Do you have any suggestions for a comfortable riding bike that is stable and capable of carrying someone my size?
I recommend you check out these two options:
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Strengths: Hill climbing, comfort (relaxed seating position), acceleration (one of the quickest and torque-test hub drive ebikes I have reviewed), suitable for carrying 300 lbs and 6'1"
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Strengths: range, comfort, brakes, incredible value (while on sale), top speed
you'll get more range out of this bike compared to the Nomad 1 because Troxus has larger battery
@@TailHappyTV the Troxus is currently on sale for $1379 with free shipping!
Lectric XPremiun only 1600 delivered. 2 batteries, mid engine, hydronic brakes, fenders plus, and best bang for us big guys. Not a small bike.
That's a good bike. If it's under 2k it's a winner.
How tall are you I’m 6 foot 2 and 230 pounds wondering it’s it’s too small
Regen brakes on a bike? Really? Why not have it charge as its riding without throttle by using the engine as a generator like how power generators are designed.
We purchased this Vivi 27.5” electric bike and a Tentaquil 26” electric bike for our 13 and 14 year olds. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ The Vivi was much easier to put together. With the Vivi, there was a video link to assist with assembly which made the process easier to follow (we did put the handlebars on upside down, but it was a quick and easy fix). With the Tentaquil, the assembly was not as simple to follow, but after we messaged the company for an assembly video, it was easier and they did respond quickly. The other major differences were that the Vivi has a grip throttle on the right handle (like a motorcycle) and the Tentaquil has a push throttle that you use your thumb to activate. The monitors were also different, so if you’re looking for something specific in terms of changing the bikes functions, pay attention to what the monitor offers. We were really impressed with the overall quality and functionality of both bikes, but if you’re looking for more power and an easier assembly, definitely go with the Vivi!
Does anyone know if these bikes use a torque or cadence sensor? Thank you,
Hi, I have a question about a non working e bike. It's a a PowerMax Eagle 2 model. A small resale shop bought it in a lot of used stuff from an elderly guy. The e bike does not work. They are asking 300 as is. The bike looks like very low miles, almost new looking. Motor and battery are 1000 watt and 48/14.5Ah. They are now selling for around 1400 new. Is this worth the risk not knowing what is wrong with it? This bike did come from a very hilly area, I do know that much. Also I saw it when it first came in, and it looked like it had been laid down, left lever was turned up and display screen had ding on it. I'm new to e bikes, looking for 1rst one.
It’s really hard to say, I would think for that price you’d be able to resell it if you aren’t able to fix it. There is only a Motor a battery and controller, I would think one of those would need to be replaced.
@@TailHappyTV Thanks for your response. It kinda gave me a moment of clarity. Would you have any parts suppliers you would recommend? A quick search lead me to amazon and entire kit including wheel and motor and battery with cables and display(conversion kit) as an example, so parts are fairly reasonable. Finding a comparable kit would give me an extra battery and controller and other parts. I'll research more, go down the rabbit hole, seems like it would be a doable project. Thanks for your thoughts, and recommendations if you have any suppliers.
Ads always start out right as the garage hill grade test begins 😭
I still think the Ariel Kepler is the best bang for your buck! Change my mind…
😆 I have yet to ride one, but I hear it’s fast
Question do the step through model have the regimen feature?
I’ve heard that the regeneration feature has been removed from this bike in the comment section here due to problems with it, causing the motor to fail. At this point in time I can’t really recommend this bike anymore after hearing about these motor failures in the comments.
@@TailHappyTV oh wow. I just got my wife one and put it together this afternoon. I will be shipping it back. Thanks for the heads up. 🤙🏿
@@dmack346 for sure, you may want to dive into the comments and research more online, this is just what I’ve heard
so what is the 0-20 time????
OK man nomad or himiway?
No hatchet for unboxing 😢😢
😂 I need to sharpen the blade
Hahaahah
For the regular buyer try and preserve the box in case it needs to be returned.
Regen braking is a waste unless you're coasting down a mountain. Regen used to be more common on early E-Bikes but was largely abandoned because they found it's relatively useless, adds more complexity, cost, wear on the motor, and creates more warranty issues. Simply coasting, even moderately, will save way more energy than you could ever regen. But of course this requires people to pay attention, anticipate stops, and actually think about what they're doing. Thinking ahead is increasingly rare but come on people, I know it hurts, but use ur brain cell once in a while.
How many ebikes do you have by now? 🤣
21 currently 😆, another arriving today. Anyone interested in weekly rentals please drop a comment here!
@@TailHappyTV I wish I was closer to try them all out.
8 gears
A Terrible Title for a pretty good bike. Your review is mostly positive and upbeat, then your title for the video basically appears to be just the opposite. The company already dealt with the REGEN problem and it sounds like those affected were taken care of... So, what's the problem? Why not change the title and leave out the "Terrible" part? HOW ABOUT: A FAT TIRE EBIKE WITH AN ODD FEATURE.
Apparently its not a good bike and the customer service is even worse
Not looking to sound like a troll, but I've seen a gazillion reviews of all these e-bikes and the one thing that's rarely mentioned is the level of support these companies provide. If you have a problem with any of these bikes that have wonderful reviews and options, how does the company respond to your need for technical support and parts? Nice to have a bike with awesome features, but after you purchase the bike, you're out on your own. Although, they don't make premium bikes, I'm more apt to buy a bike like Lectric that has outstanding support and who will respond to their customers even after they've bought their bike(s). Traditional non-e-bike shops do not want to deal with e-bike repairs in a lot of cases. So, you're going to be stuck with the e-bike that you bought from the company and it's support staff if there is any staff for support. That costs money and most e-bike companies aren''t willing or able to do such a thing. I can't tell you how many times I've seen e-bikes that I'd love to buy, but know have little to no support. These are e-bikes packed with features that I'd love to have. Anyway, enough of the rant. Until this marketplace starts to provide sufficient support, I'll stick with those companies that don't leave me hanging when problems arise.
15ah battery..... womp womp womp...
😆 yeah, I guess one advantage is a little bit less weight
Typical rude "biker" who doesn't warn people that he's passing on the left.
Too slow and too low.