Is Leon Draisaitl an Elite Center in the NHL or Just a Power Play Magician?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ส.ค. 2023
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As a Kings fan I can assure that Driasiatel is indeed elite
As a hockey fan with eyes I will agree with this.
The notion that Draisaitl is not elite is absurd. If not for McDavid he would be the best in the league most seasons.
I wonder what the Preds fans say?
@@Squishysforbreakfast"please! stop! we have families!"
What if you weren't a kings fan? Would that change your opinion?
I was going to comment the same thing haha, dont like him, but he is most definitely an elite center
Something else you didn’t touch on is his passing ability. Leon can make passes I didn’t think possible, and that’s on top of all of what you mentioned in the video. He’s absolutely an elite center imo
Best passer in the league, as voted by his own peers.
hes really re-defined what elite passing looks like. him and mcdavid tbh
@@owenposer6720dog water….?😂 get a fkn life lol
@@owenposer6720as a fellow oilers fan, we don't claim you
@@owenposer6720such a big difference between relying on a teammate to be 1st and 2nd in points every year, and being dog water. Not nearly the same thing
I don’t understand why people can’t just enjoy both talents while we can instead of these pointless debates 😂
Elite center. You cannot rack that many points without being great. He just makes things happen in the offensive zone. If he touches the puck near the opponents net, a goal is coming for the Oilers. But as long as he is playing in the shadow of the best player in the world, we will never know for sure just HOW GOOD he really is.
maybe if mcd gets injured drai could have a malkin-like season showing his stuff as THE guy on that team
@bravepotatoe7513 that already happened. Drai won the Hart.
@@bravepotatoe7513that already happened and he lead the league in points during that time span. That was when he got Yamamoto 26p in 27gms.
@@mahockey3 I see , I missed a couple years of hockey so I didn't know it already happened, then why the fuck is this even a discussion lmao he's already proven himself
Disagree, great players make other great players ….. well greater I guess
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Elite centre in the nhl. How is this even still a question?
Draisaitl is great, can't imagine the Oilers without him
In my honest opinion, Leon Draisaitl is an ELITE center in this league. On any other team, he is their #1 center and the face of the franchise. When Connor McDavid went down with the knee injury in the COVID-shortened 2019-20 season, he went beast mode to keep the Oilers a top team in the West. That stretch of incredible play was why he won the Art Ross, Hart, and Lindsay trophies that season.
Mario Lemieux scored 40% of his career points on the powerplay. Just a quick message to the people who like to use Leon's PP wizardry as some kind of negative against him.
Yeah, and it's not like the other players like Mack and Matthews aren't also on the powerplay, they just aren't nearly as productive with the same opportunities.
Lol you just compared Draisaitl to Mario Lemieux
@@BlakeWheelersBurnerAccountWhat goofy reply.
@@BlakeWheelersBurnerAccount mcdavid is lemieux and draisaitl is jagr
@@Marixa1979They aren’t on a team with the deadliest power play and 4 over 100 point scorers. Of course the Oils will have padded offense stats. That did them so good when they got spanked by VGK
Something needs to be said about the eye test.
As an Oilers fan, I notice McDavid and Draisaitl both picking pockets like it’s nobody’s business, every single game. Do they focus on it as much as a Mark Stone or a Alex Barkov or a Philip Danault? No, but for “pure offensive” players, they’re damn good at getting takeaways.
They both ended the playoffs a -1 lol wow their pick pocketing skill tho
@@Childofbhaalanything to take away from them eh lol
This feels like another Crosby/Malkin situation. Malkin or Draisaitl could EASLY be first like centers on any other team. They just happen to be on a team with a generational talent that will overshadow them. I think it's more about haters than it is about numbers with the vast majority of his doubters
When ppl say hes a Powerplay merchant they always seem to forget that EVERY Top center plays on the powerplay too.....
Not even mentioning his insane passing ability
@TheEsquireofSports.2.0Drai said he spends a lot time in Toronto now. If he ends up to Toronto they all change their minds.😂
Even as an Avalanche fan, I will readily tell you that Leon is an absolute monster. All I needed was to watch him against the Avs in the playoffs. I don't care what any statistics say. He is elite, and should be in everyone's top 3 players in the league (neck & neck with MacKinnon, and behind McDavid). He's incredible
This is an incredibly Based take
Good take. Also dont forget Leon was playing on one leg in that Avalanche vs Oilers series.
Draisaitl was heavily weighed down by Yamamoto when they were linemates. Drai would set him up multiple times a game and Yamo would almost always miss the net or mess up the play. If he would have had a better linemate he would have done better 5on5.
That's 100% something most people overlook when they talk about his 5v5 production, they're comparing him with second line wingers comparing to other elite centers like Mack and Matthews who are playing with the top wingers. If you gave Drai Kane and Hymen 82 games, he'd have better 5 on 5 production as well. I really hope Brown in for Yamo really solidifies the top 2 lines.
If only yam could play like his rookie year
@@somerandomidiot1333 I think I along with the rest of the Oiler fanbase all would have so much loved to see him progress and produce. We desperately wanted him to be a fan favorite, same as Pulu.
Goes for a ton of guys to be honest acting like draistal the only dude to play with bums
Finally, someone who sees Yamamoto for the player he is. Biggest mistake of the off season for the kraken was signing Yamamoto and letting Sprong go.
The fact this is discussed is absolutely ridiculous. Draisaitl scores tons 5on5 and helps his linemates too, same with Mcdavid the argument of well he scores bunch on powerplay is so confusing because Oilers have lethal powerplay, so what is the expectation not to have a lethal powerplay just to score more 5on5 its so bizarre.
Don’t let Kings, Golden Knights, Flames, And Canucks fans see this.
They’ll tell you he’s a power play merchant.
@@TheEsquireofSports.2.0 every Kings fan I know calls him a power play merchant
@@passingdrill4942I'm a Flames fan. Draisaitl is the real deal and there's not much else to be said about it
Guy is elite and honestly gets underrated due to being on the same team as McGlitch. Love to watch his monstrous one timers and insane playmaking ability.
Draisaitl is this generations Malkin. On any other team he'd be the guy, but he just happens to be playing with the best player in the world so he gets overshadowed.
Also, let's be honest, if Draisaitl was Canadian this wouldn't even be a debate.
People who actually watch the Oilers understand that Draisaitl makes McDavid better just as much as McDavid makes Draisaitl better
mhmmmm without either of them they don't crack 100 points last season.
No one gave Mario a hard time when HALF of his points were from the PP. People don't really get it
My same friends who I'm in fantasy with who tell me Drai isn't that good are the same friends who pick him 2nd year in and year out. Every time.
He's 13th in the league on even strength points as well. What people don't realize is that top players across the board don't actually score that much 5on5 points and something like 50 points without power play already puts you into the absolute top echelon of players. Only five players in the league had over 70 even strength points and no one had 80 or more.
there’s 41 guys with 50+ even strength points last year. The oilers are far and away the most power play dependent team in the league
@@zackc2770 There are also 32 teams in the league, so 41 players might not be extremely exclusive, but it isn't that many either. The Oilers being dependent on their power play still isn't because McDavid and Draisaitl only score on powerplay. It's because no one else scores 5on5 and their team defense is questionable.
Mdavid had 82 even strength points last season.
@@liamlaursen-williams5879 He had 75 plus 7 short handed points.
Not only is he bonafide, he’s the number one center on any other team in the league. I think any other center would get bumped after his first season on the team.
He’s not bumping MacKinnon
@@DannOfSteel I get that. I’m an Avs fan and I think he’d be our first line center. Mac is amazing but Leon is just better. It would be similar to the oilers. Someone has to be second line center. I’m sure it would be called 1a and 1b but Mac would end up on the second line. In the modern era there are the best players in the NHL, and then there is Leon and Connor. They are just so elite.
He is hands down a elite center and the 2nd best player in the league whom, has a better faceoff % than Mcdavid who rides shotgun to Leon as a center on the PP. You keep saying that they use 5 forwards on the pp however, the Oilers always have a d-man on the PP whether it was Barrie until he was traded then became Bouchard. They did not deploy 5 forwards ever on the PP.
He is really still quite underrated and I get why but don’t understand how. He is such an elite player
One other thing. He’s perfectly skilled to transition into a Selke winner as he ages. He could completely change his game, halve his points and get a Selke every year.
Lol😂
Yes Selke deserving players end the playoffs a -1
@@Childofbhaalreread the original comment. Slowly if you have to.
Since he's been an elite player (2018-19 season), he is: 1st in Goals (6th in EVG), 2nd in Assists,, 2nd in Points, 2nd in Points-per-game, 2nd in Power Play Points, 1st in PPG, 2nd in GWG. He's 2nd to McDavid in every single one of those stats, btw. He's the 2nd best player the league, has been for 5 years, and it's not close.
Matthews =
1.69 G/60 5v5
2.87 P/60 5v5
Draisaitl =
1.12 G/60 5v5
2.67 P/60 5v5
Marner =
0.92 G/60 5v5
2.91 P/60 5v5
Matthews =
3.07 TkA/60
2.42 GvA/60
Draisaitl =
2.41 TkA/60
3.38 GvA/60
Marner =
2.84 TkA/60
2.87 GvA/60
Matthews =
2.15 Hits/60
2.56 Blocks/60
Draisaitl =
1.60 Hits/60
0.75 Blocks/60
Marner =
1.60 Hits/60
1.61 Blocks/60
On top of all of that he has a career +- of 29 and ended the playoffs last year a -1 lol oh woweee scoring points is so awesome we can forget about defense
He's both. And the best passer in the NHL
Drai is elite. Full stop. He was chosen be the league as the best passer. His shot is lethal. He leads his team even thoufh he plays with a generational talent as well. He has grown into a total package. Great video and it still has numbers to go.
Love it!!! Is it hockey season yet???
Since when is scoring on the powerplay a bad thing? I swear these days anything to hate on a player
I don't get this narrative of people trying to label him as a "power play merchant" as if power plays weren't part of the game? And if he truly were a power play merchant, how did he lead the playoffs in goalscoring, having only played 2 rounds, considering refs let the game flow way more during the postseason. This guy is truly special and he's a 100% the only other player that can be put near McDavid's level in the league right now. Also, his passing ability is criminally underrated. I would take him on my team any day.
Draisaitl would be a number 1 center on like, 31 other teams in the league (doing this for click bait, I’m genuinely curious which fan bases think their #1 center would still be the guy), he just happens to be on the only team where that isn’t the case. Which I’d also argue is the reason he’s gotten as good as he has, his drive to be as good or better than McDavid is there. Not saying he will, because McDavid, but it has to motivate him to get better as a player all the time.
"And if he truly were a power play merchant, how did he lead the playoffs in goalscoring"
Well... The 6 powerplay goals didn't hurt. ;)
@@bajjanitor the 7 5v5 goals didn’t hurt as well 🤔😉
@@MaverickWall238 Yep. 7 even strength goals and 6 powerplay goals. Not sure why you thought this was a good stint to bring up in favor of him not being a powerplay merchant.
@@bajjanitorDid you not listen to what Shannon said? Powerplay goals count just as much as even strength. All the same after the final buzzer goes off 🤷♂️
His first few years weren't ideal. Chirelli made several questionable moves, but that 8.5Mil for Leon looks like an absolute steal right now. He's grown into a top offensive threat on the ice, akin to a Jagr with Lemieux. Praying Edmonton breaks through this year and wins a Cup.
Edmonton ain’t winning a cup. They are not a balanced team and their D and goaltending are poor. I hope McDavid asks for a trade.
@timetowakeup6302 You say that but they gave the stanley cup champions their toughest series win. Edmonton isn't that far off. They've won a total 14 playoff games in the past 2 years, if their defense and goaltending is that poor what's that saying about majority of the other teams?
You just have to make it to the dance and anything can happen. Parity in the league is unreal.
@@timetowakeup6302 If Boston had beaten Florida in 5 you'd have said the same thing about the Panthers.
@@justjohnny420 Didn't realize being swept by the Avs 4-0 was the Avs' toughest series in 2022 lmao
Anyone who says he isn't an Elite player, or a center clearly doesn't watch the oilers play... Only the highlights, the guy carries his line throughout the regular season like a single dad with 2 kids going on vacation. Top 5 passer in the world, Top 5 one timer, and he's an absolute moose on the puck.
Imagine the Oilers win the Cup in a Game 7 double OT, but the goal is scored on a power play. "Sure Edmonton won the Cup, but the winning goal was on the power play so they still suck while 5 on 5" 😂
His points per game playoff numbers are being compared to Gretzky and Lemieux’s. Yeh he’s elite.
And he did some of that on one leg.
Like you Shannon I’m also not sure why being great on the powerplay should count against him. It’s a key part of the game and he is a major part of the best power play in nhl history.
Also , for big stretches of games , he’s been the oilers best player - and when you have McDavid on your team - that makes you pretty elite.
draisaitl is not only the best playoff performer in the league along with mcdavid, he's also the best powerplay player along with mcdavid, and the second best player in the NHL behind mcdavid. No other player has potentially both the best shot and the best passing in the league other than, again, mcdavid. the fact he's such a great passer means players have no idea what he's gonna do with the puck. they have to respect the pass, but also his shot. its why he scores so many goals. draisaitl is a player that can get 55+ goals and 75+ assists in one season. again, which player other than mcdavid can do that in the league rn. and don't bash his defensive game. he plays hard and physical, he's one of the best at protecting the puck. his backchecking will improve, but don't bash what he isn't paid for
😅 Points per game is 1.6 I checked. That's pretty good. 😅😅😅 understatement of the day.
Shannon, how dare you back up your point with things like facts????? This is the the internet!!!
On a serious note, TY as always for the content :)
As an Oiler fan who watches Draisaitl live often, he indeed is an elite center men and winger and a top 2 or 3 best offensive forward in the league..he’s a beast
With or without MacDavid, he is a beast. Considering both in the team, it's unbelievable the Oilers weren't champions. As a Flames fan, I am happy.
I’d say he’s elite, I don’t think his numbers drop that far if he’s in a different sweater.
Leon '" lionheart" Draisaitl is the German Gretzky
who you got for bad king john?
You could argue he’d be the #1 center on any other team right now, even potentially bumping Crosby down to 2nd line center in Pittsburg
Any other team sure but not the Pens. Crosby is still elite
@johnrosser9747 lmao Crosby time is done pal.. drai would absolutely bump him down...maybe you should compare they're offensive numbers the last few years. Not even close!
@@everettwells3812 wow a guy in his prime is outperforming a 36 year old who could’ve seen that coming !
Please just stop....lol
Why are you comparing them both then if they are so far apart in age? Lol 😆 ridiculous
Scoreboard. As a wings fan there were many games we could have won if our powerplay was better. McDavid and Draisaitl are the #1 and #2 players/ centers in the NHL no question.
Interesting thoughts. I must admit I make some of the same complaints about John Tavares who last year had 39 of 80 points on the power play and 18 of 36 goals there. He is a relatively slow skater and seems to do better with set pieces. still has a great shot. That is not Draisaitl. He's fast, he's a play driver. Great shot and great passer.
Draisaitl I've watched through a couple of playoffs where he has been dominant 5 on 5. Certainly this year it was Evan Bouchard and McDavid who feasted in the playoffs with the extra man. He had that big playoff run as a 21 year old and the year before last and on all those occasions he was a dominant five on five player.
Last year the Oilers had the best offense in the league (3.96 gpg) and an almost historically successful powerplay. 32.4%
Draisaitl and McDavid feasted on the power play . McDavid had 71 power play points.
He is not just a power play guy. He's a great NHL player.
Draisaitl would be a first line center just about anywhere else in the NHL. Maybe not Colorado. Maybe.
I would say he is great in general, no one gets to 51 goals just off of powerplay
Alex Ovechkin: "Allow me to introduce myself..."
Ovechkin is gonna be 38 next season dude@@OnlyEternalRain
@OnlyEternalRain he scored less than 300 of his over 800 on the power play and only reached 50 percent of his goals on the PP in a season once. 14 of 42 on the PP this season and still leads his team in goals and points annually in his late 30's. In his career 36% of his goals are PPG... so almost 64% are 5v5. So not even close to half of his goals are PPG.
Such an uneducated comment.
@@capsfan8585 Ovi is a powerplay merchant. Take off the homer glasses bud.
Something that's overlooked by alot is that Mcdavid and Draisaitl dominant 5on5 early on. They had to though as their pp wasn't that effective. Now that it is they can play a more passive 5on5 game and wait for the pp to take more risk. They also play with the lead more now. So basically 5on5 they are being asked to take less risks which lowers 5on5 scoring. If the pp wasnt killing it they'd be putting up much higher 5on5 numbers.
Interesting point.
2nd best player in the NHL by a MILE. Put him on any other team & it wouldn’t be a question.
For anyone using cups to determine best player, then Maroon is currently the best by a landslide,, 3 cups in a row, and 2 wins away from 4 in a row.
So, stop using cups and realize this isn't tennis.
He is just as good as McDavid. He also plays so much different. He really slows down the game and can draw defenders into him where as Conner just speeds by them.
If you are asking about Leon, you just had to watch him closely last playoffs. That man played possessed, like a True Champion, that wanted it BAD. That's the guy I want.
Based solely on the sheer number of times Draisaitl has assisted in completely obliterating the Canucks, I'd say he's an elite center.
Yep. Sometimes I wonder if he just plays better against us based on how his play gets dismissed by so many. Then I remember that other Canucks fans are just as guilty of doing that and I’m forced to conclude lots of people just don’t pay attention at all and like crap on others.
There is no debate. If you are a power play magician, then you are already elite player.
Shannon, thank you for all the variety of content you make. You spend so much time preparing and researching. I've been watching for almost 6 years now, and I appreciate the effort, consistency, candor, care, passion, and love you put into your videos. I'd watch you even if you released 2 videos a week and thank you for giving us so much more.
Draisaitl had 64 point 5v5 last season. That puts him at 13th for skaters but ahead of other elite players like Kucherov, Matthews, Kopitar, Bergeron. Draisaitl's stats, when compared with other elite players, are all the proof needed - he's a top centre.
On a tangent, MacKinnon had 77 5v5 points in 71 games which put him first. It's insane he could do that while playing less games than the next 40 players on that list. If he gets a full season with Rantanen and Makar, I predict he will get 150 points.
see now these are the kinds of videos ive been looking for from you!
Oh he’s clearly absolutely terrible. Total powerplay-pretender. The Oilers should just get rid of him and trade him to the Pens for a 7th round pick 👀 no ulterior motives of course
Most underrated part of his game is his passing ability
I would love to have him on my team. Turns out Edmonton is my team so yay for me.
Ummm. Yes?
As much as he's Scotty Pippen to McDavid's Jordan, he's still elite.
A couple years ago he had a great defensive year. He needs to get back to that. Also he was unbelievable in playoffs this year. Tied for first in goals in only 2 rounds...
As a not too knowledgeable hockey fan, i would put mcdavid 1 leon 2 and 3 is dealers choice in terms if best players in the world. Funny how they cant get to a SC final though all things considered. Respect to him and mickey d for sure tho. No other player can come close. Im a Kirill fan but he doesnt touch a candle to those two.
- elite passer
- has an elite one-timer
- elite wristshot
- >50% on the faceoff
- good zone entries and protects the puck well despite not being a speed freak who can regularly deke out 3 guys like McDavid (not that he can't deke guys out sometimes, but also often uses his body to protect the puck while just muscling his way in)
- 3-time 50 goal scorer
- 4-time 100 pt scorer
- 18.1 career shot %
- 10 short-handed goals
- off the powerplay he has 181 regular season goals and 306 assists (and those points alone would put him in the top 250 forwards all-time in points-per-game)
- he elevates in the playoffs
I'd say he's an elite center.
I think Leon is an elite player but imagine if McDavid never went to the Oilers. Do you think he would be even remotely close to being the same player as he is today?
Hey ain’t on PP 2, he’s the 5 on 3 specialist for the kill
I hope this is the year. Maybe their powerplay will be even better this year. And break more century records.
I think he belongs in the convo with McD, MacKinnon, Kucherov, and maybe Matthews and Pasta as the Top 5-6 forwards.
He's better than Matthews.
Thank you for including Kucherov, a shocking number of people seem to forget he exists lol
Hey @The Hockey Guy, I've followed you for a while and I love your content. Quick question, how many hockey jerseys do you own? Could you make a video showcasing your favorite ones and the stories behind them?
That’s a really sharp looking hat. You always wear cool hats. Have you ever done a hat collection video?
hes elite look at when mcdavid was out he was asuperstar for edmonton. anyone that says he isnt doesnt know anything about hockey.
Probably the best top 3C core in the league.
As for Draisaitl apparently being a PP bully but look at those playoff numbers when referees pocket their whistles. I assume (perhaps wrongly) that the PP points percentage of his total is much lower than the regular season yet he still scores at 1.57 PPG
Drai is amazing. My dream cup final this coming season is Rangers-Oilers, even though if that actually happened my Rangers could probably just be proud to lose in 7. I don't understand people who criticize the guy. Do they even watch Oilers games?
Even the NHL put Leon as the 1st team all-star as a LW a couple years ago even though he plays center 5x5 or RW on the PP.
Points without each other Drai's are actually slightly better I think last I checked
Well first of all, he was 13th in EVP, yes, but at the same time, he was 4 behind #6. So that's pretty misleading. Second of all, Draisaitl is 2nd in the entire NHL in EVP, if you look at stats since 2016, rather than just last year. #6 is you combine the stats from last year and this year, and #3 if you combine last three years. So the entire argument is based on nothing but last year. And making arguments based on one year is stupid and misleading. Would you look at the 2005-2006 season in a vacuum and make the argument that Cheechoo is one of the best goal scorers of all time? Of course not, so why look at one season of Draisaitl's play and make the argument that he's a powerplay merchant?
Third, and most importantly: powerplay goals count for just as many on the board as 5on5 goals do. People have been making the same stupid argument with Ovechkin throughout his career, that powerplay goals are somehow worth less or easier to come by. If they're so easy to get, then why isn't anyone else getting them? You think if Crosby could score 32 powerplay goals in a season, he would just choose not to do it? Why? To be a good sport and give everyone else a chance?
I defend Draisaitl in this entire video and your post here makes it sound like I slammed him badly. I even rated him #2 among all forwards in the NHL mere weeks ago, but by all means, tell me I am stupid and misleading people...
if he is not good at 5on5 but is elite on the PP why does he still have more points 5on5 than on the powerplay?
I'm not sure I've ever watched a video of yours where, by the end of it, I've been able to disagree with you. Even if I went in to it with skepticism, your good sense and logic has always swayed me. That said, for this video I agreed with you from the get go. Draisaitle is elite. Draisaitle is a center. He'd be the top line center on 30-31 NHL teams. Anyone arguing the fact, don't worry, the NBA season starts soon too.
yeah a "debate" that started out of a certain Ontario city no doubt....
What a click bait title...Why is this still a discussion Leon is amazing full stop
What constitutes being elite ?
Is being 32 in forwards/defenseman in any stats fair ?
Draisatl is 19th in pts in 5vs5, 53rd in goal, but 8th in assists.
Add that to the center stats THG mentionned, looks like we got a center guilty of playing like a center when not on powerplay, how dare he be top10 in assists in 5vs5.
Clearly the best goal scorer in powerplay in the league, while still being top10 in assists (in powerplay) is crazy.
Can’t he be both ?
People be careful with 5vs5 stats being more important Jeff Skinner is 7th or 8th in that department i doubt many has him in their current top 40-50 in the league.
No mention on how much he dives. I don’t think there’s ever been such a high elite level player who dives so much.
He’s also the best passer in the league, and the emergence of Ryan McLeod has made Nuge a top 6 winger, this might be the year where people around the league wonder where this McLeod kid came from cause he’s developed into a very solid player, in fact the Oilers probably beat Vegas if they line matched McLeod against Eichel, the numbers show he was very effective at shutting him down with his skating ability
I don't love to see the team win due strictly to where I grew up, but the man is clearly an elite force on any NHL ice surface. I remember watching him play on one knee in the playoffs and realizing he was the real deal.
How about an offensive game vs. defensive game breakdown for Pasta? Lotta goals... lotta giveaways?
Leon is absolutely elite. Anywhere else but Edmonton or Pittsburgh, he's #1 centre.
Perfect thumbnail 👌
Draisaitl in the 2nd best center in the NHL, he just happens to be on a team with the best center in the league. There are echoes of Crosby and Malkin, or Datsyuk and Zetterberg over if they're 'true' centers or would be better off playing wing, but if you're top 32 in faceoffs taken you're primarily a center.
He’s the 2nd best player in the league and that’s all I know
He's not. A player with that limited defensive capability just can't be the second best. Is he better offensively as a whole than Matthews? Yes. but hes significantly worse defensively.
Matthews or McK are 2nd, its a hard call. Could make a case for Makar too if youre just talking Forwards
I was talking forwards, should have said that but put him as the number 1 C on any other team he’d be getting awards much more often, I truly believe this is geno and Sid 10 years ago. The Best player and the 2nd best player on the same team
And my top 5 are mcdavid, Leon, Nathan, mattews, Sid
@@mannyoliveira776 the only winger that should be considered for the top 5 is kucherov
Leon is a bona-fide center and the 2nd best player in the league. I believe the eye test and stats make this so. I also believe that he would be worshipped if Canadian instead of German, there is a strong bias in the NHL.
I like these videos it fills my boring days
It’s sad this is even a debate. If mcdavid didn’t exist there was a point where it was a toss up between Kuch and Drai being the 2 best players in the world
1st ballot Hall of famer if he continues his dominance.
As a Kings fan I can confirm he’s an elite center. He was an unstoppable beast in the playoffs against us.
Draisaitl reminds me of early prime Marian Hossa.
Elite player no doubt
The oilers don’t play with 5 forwards on the power play…… hence the Bouchard deal….
Thank you for sticking up for Leon peoples options that he’s not good because he gets all his points on the power play is a ridiculous take.
drai is elite. his defence was exposed in the playoffs especially when he wasn’t producing as much. the 5v5 argument can be made because it seems calls disappear come playoff time but he’s still elite and a play driver
I want to see one of these about EP42
Gotta be good to be good on the powerplay.
Please make a career video about Alexander Frolov
I am a Leaf fan
Leon is better then any Leaf in history
He's elite. How can there be any argument??
Another point is that being on the power play is...supposed to give you an advantage? Ideally all your players are better on the power play than five on five because it's designed for you to have the edge