On very long rides one could use an old school solution: two tubes. When one blows you just pump up the second one. Works with latex tubes quite well. Of course you need a wheel with two ventil holes opposite each other.
I have 32c tubeless slick tires on my gravel bike for road riding. For road riding, I am weekend warrior and I put in 50 miles a week, therefore the chance of me getting a flat is slim. I just don't understand why companies are using mtb technology on road bikes when roadies are supposed to be weight weenie. Putting a noodle inside your road tires with sealant is just adding more weight. You still have to open up your tire when you get home and patch it. I am a mountain biker at heart and I don't even use noodle on my trail mtb. If you're logging in 200 miles, tube tires makes more sense. You can put on new tube in your tire and be on merry way with full pressure rather than turtling your way home from the middle of no where. Btw, appreciate you using your shop as a test lab for us viewers. 😁
First impressions after 2 rides are positive. The tires definitely feel fast. Not like I suddenly increased my average speed on the same route, but there's noticably less resistance while climbing and it's easier to push over small bumps like highway crossings. I also encountered a few hundred meters of gravel without issues. But I'm comparing the tires to the Pirelli cinturato velo I rode before which are puncture resistance and wet grip focused tires, not as bad as gatorskins though. So maybe any more performance oriented tire would have resulted in a similar experience. But at least I used another one of your cycling tips, didn't you say something like life is to short to ride slow and heavy tires? ;) Another thing I've noticed right after mounting was the my tires are a little undersized. The 28c measured 27,3 mm wide and the 32c measured 30,6 mm on my rims which have a internal width of 20 mm which I thought to be a pretty standard modern size. So I don't know just normal manufacturing tolerance.
Hi George. Been following your content for a while and first time post. I truly appreciate your honesty, objectivity, and humor about all this cycling stuff. I happen to agree with you whole heartedly about NOT going tubeless with road tires (especially when using 25c or 28c). The pressures are too high for practical use of tubeless. Tubeless should stay for gravel, cross, and Mt. Bikes. Period. I can change a flat in 2 minutes and either patch the tube (saves money versus using a new $5.00 tube) or replace the tube. NO mess. No fuss. Back on the bike. Rim brakes I might add. In addition, while my primary goal is longevity of my road racing bike plus it's drivetrain, I stopped waxing my chain. IMHO, it's NOT worth the hassle. My objective is to wake up and RIDE (far and fast) and anything that interferes in that mission is a complete failure. I currently use Silica synergetic wet lube. And even though I mostly (95%) ride in dry conditions (Philadelphia), the lube is amazing. It works; it delays breakdown of drivetrain - everything I want it to do. Yeah, Yeah, people say but it gets so dirty. Actually, NO it does not, just wipe down (takes
Regarding tubeless: I’m still rather new to the conversion. But the past 1800 miles I had 2 incidents- a bad sidewall puncture that did not seal, even after a plug was inserted (the second ride on tubeless!). Had to buy a new tire. Then a week or so ago I ran over a Small piece of metal.. was a slow leak and was slow to seal.. so I did the dynaplug. I had recently got these plugs. Worked like a charm. Was able to pump back up and continue on. Plug is still holding up well. Love dynaplugs so far. Sealant used is “Orange “ brand. Tires are 25mm at 85-90 psi. I have not had a tiny enough puncture (ie small nail) to observe whether or not the sealant will do its job. But yeah.. so far, I’m actually 0-2 on sealant actually working. LoL.
So for road tubeless...we remove the tube, then add sealant...and now we add a foam insert. Maybe next we can package the foam insert and sealant in a tube to make installation easy? 😛 I can't wait for the video on installing the air liners. From what I've heard (never done it myself), they're a pain. Tubeless seems more and more like a race day application. If you puncture with clinchers, you're out of the running. If you puncture with tubeless, MAYBE you can maintain position and finish.
For what it’s worth i love my Victoria Corsa Pro Control 28 TLR tires that I run tubeless/hookless with regular Orange Seal. I even feel like they saved my life when I was going way too fast down a steep hill and hit a bad pothole/raised cracks at about 30mph and that should have blown the tires off the rims according to TH-cam. The tires took it like a champ, didn’t burp or pinch puncture. The rim even took a hard strike. But I’ve only been riding since march and I respect your opinion. So much so I plan on getting a set of HED Ardenne black from you based on your reviews.
Thank you for your feedback. They are great tires! If you are planning on getting the HED Ardennes anyway please consider purchasing them from me. I am a ONE man shop and can use the business for something you would be purchasing anyway and especially after possibly using my videos in your decision making process. Contact me directly at “revcycling@gmail.com”
As a subscriber, i enjoy your experiences to help discern the hype of marketing consumers deal with...one note..as a silica wax user for the last 2 years, they recommend a renewal after about 1000 k and top off after about 300 k..i run 2 chains..change once a month and re-lube once a week, not bad..also bicycle rolling resistance site just dropped a review of the Rene tires you're using if interested..
Thank You for watching John! Yes I ordered the Super Secret drip lube so instead of topping of i want to use it as the primary method. Funny just a video where Silca said to use the drip lube and apply twice so you can get up to 90% the saturation or fill rate you get from immersion. I love the Rene Herse tires for ride quality, grip on mountain descents and perception of reduced rolling resistance! I’ll check out the review on BRR
In recent years unfortunately road bikes became the target of the tech snobs who are willing to swallow every pseudo innovation used just to nip some nickel from them.
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad im sure youve seen it, but the site zero friction cycling, has got a lot of great data on lubrication..they show a big difference from immersion to drip in lengh of time between relubes.drip will work but wont last as long..there talking 10000 miles on a chain before .5 stretch..pretty impressive..
Hi George, regarding tubeless quite a few years ago when I set up my ritchey road logic I purchased some Shimano wheels not realizing that they were tubeless ready and set them up with tubes. As time passed I had the usual punctures and on the roadside to break the bead was a real hassle. I believe this was because the rims were tubeless ready and a tight fit. That's when I went to tubeless and after a couple of minor issues learning about set up they have worked fine. On two occasions I did need to fit a tube on the roadside but the bead broke quite easily, I assume the moist sealant worked as a lube but there have been many rides that have uninterrupted when the sealant has done it's job. For context they are 28 tyres but I am in the process of going to 30 just because the bike also goes on gravel. Also I use latex tubes on my race wheels so I believe different set ups suit different situations. Thanks for your videos, Bill from NZ
You are right on the chain waxing needing to be re-waxed too often if you ride a lot. I just wipe down my chain after every ride and re-lube; easy takes couple minutes and keeps chain fairly clean. I carry two inner tubes and a patch kit when I ride, seems like overkill for sealant and foam inserts on road bike. I get that people don’t want to deal with flat tires, but with two tire levers, it doesn’t take too long to change inner tube. Happy riding George and waiting to see how your experience goes with the Vittoria products. 🚴🏻♂️
Good tires and high tire pressure are on a road bike very important to avoid flats. My rescue setup is one spare and a set of patches. On a road bike you can actually take the tire off without any levers. Just make sure to push the beat inwards before starting to take it off in one place. And I recommend a dual use pump CO2 and handwork.
Usually on longer riders I recommend a small lube tube with you. After about 150km every chain loves some additional lubrication. Moreover, should you hit some rain shower it will be almost necessary to lube the chain after getting out of it.
I understand liners for MTB and gravel, but not for road. Does that liner not restrict the flow of sealant making it less efficient for the sealant to reach and properly seal the tire if it punctures? Also, as GV mentioned, what are you going to do if the puncture is so bad that you need to pull the liner and put in a tube? Liners are just a huge cash grab, the price is absurd for what it is.
Another option is the Corsa NEXT, it comes in tubeless or a clincher. I bought clinchers, but have not installed just yet. I'm anxious to get them on here soon.
First, subscribed to your channel a few months back. Enjoy your candid review of products. Interested in a follow up review of the Corsa Pro tires. Don’t run tubeless on my road bikes to much hassle if sealant fails and then having to deal with a tube. Been there and said never again.
Vittoria airliner road is where it's at! I have 4,000+ miles riding them. Only had to use dynaplug 4 or 5 times. Now that's all I carry for myself. I just add another 40 ml of sealant every 3 or 4 months. I've ridden home on a flat tire twice. Been working in bike shops for the last 6+ years. I can change an inner tube in less than 2 minutes but after riding lower pressures with the tubeless tires I won't go back. Who wants to ever have to throw an inner tube into that goopy mess on the roadside? Not me. Tubeless road is getting super popular but I don't know why more people aren't trying these out. They start at 27 grams. My bike is 16 pounds so I try to be as much of a weight weenie as possible but these are more than worth it to me. I picked up a KOM the other day so I'm not feeling any negatives to the system at all. It's a little harder to set up up but you save all that time and then some by having less road side maintenance. The first time it took me quite a while but after doing it a few times I can set up a pair of tires and liners in about 20 minutes in the shop. So 20 minutes in the shop is saving me 20-120 minutes of annual road side maintenance. These are a 100% no brainer for me and I would never ride tubeless road without them. I've heard dozens of people say how stupid they are but I've never met a person that rode them that said that. Maybe those guys just like to take a messy break during their rides.
Hey, just wanted to let you know that 23 mm tires are alive and well.. matter fact, I just upgraded to 25s on my caad 9 lol. There are plenty of 23 mm tires still being made, and sold apparently.
Be careful with those. I loved them too, but when you need to change your tire...I cracked a carbon rim trying to get my tire off, using the tool I purchased from Vittoria. Had to toss em. $900 down the drain. I went back to tubes. Probably works great for larger volume tires (like above 700x35c) but for 700x30c and lower, it's insanely difficult to get the tire off (on is not hard at all) with the insert in them.
Tubeless: set up is a lottery, can be a real pain in the ass. Once you cross that hurdle it rolls notably faster and comfort is improved. If you get a puncture and it seals happy days! But when it fails, putting a tube in a gooey tire is a rubbish job. That's before we get into the bike cleanup. Don't forget the ongoing maintenance of topping up sealant. Overall for ease of use tubes win, tubeless may be worth exploring but you have to be aware for every up there is a down.
Use silca sealant for road tires/pressures. Works great for road pressures. They use bits of carbon fiber in the sealant to create seal. I didn’t believe in road tubeless till i started using silca. Completely trust my sealant now.
That stuff is SO messy to work with especially since you can’t put it through the valve. It also didn’t work for me on 28 tires and 65 psi then it clumped inside it’s terrible sealant for road. Here watch this video Why Road Tubeless sucks! What do I think about Silca Ultimate Sealant th-cam.com/video/BDipWpiKA0s/w-d-xo.html
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad Thanks for the reply and link. Sealant is always messy. Silca is definitely high maintenance. You have to replenish with their replenisher every 3 months, then redo the entire sealant job every year. That said, i ride in NJ where our pavement is awful with tons of potholes and debris. I usually do 200-300 miles a week and 3 out of my 5 punctures this year were from pinch flats. I've only been on silca/road tubeless the last 2 months but it's been a dream. I'm running 25mm tires @80 psi and no more pinch flats. Had a puncture last week that sealed up on it's own with no noticeable loss of pressure. Only realized I punctured cause a buddy noticed sealant on my seatube. I was also a tubeless non believer but now im convinced that for at least my road conditions this is the way to go. In terms of emergency repair I carry 2oz of silca's replenisher and a tiny plug kit along with co2 and a tubolito just in case. If not for pinch flats I'd prob still be running tubes but for my conditions eliminating pinch flats is a huge relief. Also when we do our AM mock crits I don't have to be as careful with my line choice as I'm not worrying about as much about road surface and pinches. Plus tubeless corners better. I have another road bike that is now also running road tubeless at 28mm and I'll prob switch to silca from stans for my gravel bike. That said I do have several bikes and I would only run tubeless on bikes I ride often as there is definitely extra work involved in making sure the sealant is fresh enough to work. Anyways, safe riding, cheers.
IMHO. Even for MTBs, tubeless doesn't really make that much sense. It's a big heavy-ish tire already. So, it's not about better ride quality from a thinner casing. Then add the fact that you have suspension and low psi. Just run a thicker tube and if there is really a need for sealant, put it in the tube. You only need the liners if taking repeated heavy hits. And in that case, sealant wouldn't save you anyway.
This is just crazy with those linners 😂😂😂 they won't change anything. They are good for mtb and gravel to run lower pressure and not damage the rim. But why in earth would anyone use it on road?
So what they are saying: don't use tubes, go tubeless, but put this "safety" piece of foam into your tubeless tyres and hope that you might get a seal when you puncture. If you don't get a seal then bad luck - just put a tube in (you have to carry one even though we want you to ride tubeless), and throw this piece of foam away (just leave it on the side of the road since you'll most likely puncture away from any bins/trash cans - unless you want to carry it back soaked in sealant, wrapped around your arm because no roadie will have storage for an object this big) HAHAHAHA they really want to sell us sht we don't need, don't they.
10:12 exactly what I just said above! Anyone who's capable of critical thinking should ask this question in the first 30 seconds of being told how great this is. It's pathetic how they play these tricks on less experienced, gullible (young) riders. And they sell this wrapped in "green packaging" so that customers feel good about buying crap they really shouldn't be buying at all. And this approach can be seen everywhere.
On very long rides one could use an old school solution: two tubes. When one blows you just pump up the second one. Works with latex tubes quite well. Of course you need a wheel with two ventil holes opposite each other.
I have 32c tubeless slick tires on my gravel bike for road riding. For road riding, I am weekend warrior and I put in 50 miles a week, therefore the chance of me getting a flat is slim.
I just don't understand why companies are using mtb technology on road bikes when roadies are supposed to be weight weenie. Putting a noodle inside your road tires with sealant is just adding more weight. You still have to open up your tire when you get home and patch it. I am a mountain biker at heart and I don't even use noodle on my trail mtb. If you're logging in 200 miles, tube tires makes more sense. You can put on new tube in your tire and be on merry way with full pressure rather than turtling your way home from the middle of no where. Btw, appreciate you using your shop as a test lab for us viewers. 😁
Ha ha I give myself headaches so you don’t have to! 🤣
Just mounted a pair of Corsa N.EXT tube version on my wheels. 28 mm on the front and 32 mm on the rear. Im looking forward to try them out tomorrow
Please report back!
First impressions after 2 rides are positive. The tires definitely feel fast. Not like I suddenly increased my average speed on the same route, but there's noticably less resistance while climbing and it's easier to push over small bumps like highway crossings. I also encountered a few hundred meters of gravel without issues.
But I'm comparing the tires to the Pirelli cinturato velo I rode before which are puncture resistance and wet grip focused tires, not as bad as gatorskins though. So maybe any more performance oriented tire would have resulted in a similar experience.
But at least I used another one of your cycling tips, didn't you say something like life is to short to ride slow and heavy tires? ;)
Another thing I've noticed right after mounting was the my tires are a little undersized. The 28c measured 27,3 mm wide and the 32c measured 30,6 mm on my rims which have a internal width of 20 mm which I thought to be a pretty standard modern size. So I don't know just normal manufacturing tolerance.
Hi George. Been following your content for a while and first time post. I truly appreciate your honesty, objectivity, and humor about all this cycling stuff. I happen to agree with you whole heartedly about NOT going tubeless with road tires (especially when using 25c or 28c). The pressures are too high for practical use of tubeless. Tubeless should stay for gravel, cross, and Mt. Bikes. Period. I can change a flat in 2 minutes and either patch the tube (saves money versus using a new $5.00 tube) or replace the tube. NO mess. No fuss. Back on the bike. Rim brakes I might add. In addition, while my primary goal is longevity of my road racing bike plus it's drivetrain, I stopped waxing my chain. IMHO, it's NOT worth the hassle. My objective is to wake up and RIDE (far and fast) and anything that interferes in that mission is a complete failure. I currently use Silica synergetic wet lube. And even though I mostly (95%) ride in dry conditions (Philadelphia), the lube is amazing. It works; it delays breakdown of drivetrain - everything I want it to do. Yeah, Yeah, people say but it gets so dirty. Actually, NO it does not, just wipe down (takes
Regarding tubeless: I’m still rather new to the conversion.
But the past 1800 miles I had 2 incidents- a bad sidewall puncture that did not seal, even after a plug was inserted (the second ride on tubeless!). Had to buy a new tire.
Then a week or so ago I ran over a
Small piece of metal.. was a slow leak and was slow to seal.. so I did the dynaplug. I had recently got these plugs. Worked like a charm. Was able to pump back up and continue on. Plug is still holding up well. Love dynaplugs so far. Sealant used is “Orange “ brand.
Tires are 25mm at 85-90 psi. I have not had a tiny enough puncture (ie small nail) to observe whether or not the sealant will do its job.
But yeah.. so far, I’m actually 0-2 on sealant actually working. LoL.
So for road tubeless...we remove the tube, then add sealant...and now we add a foam insert. Maybe next we can package the foam insert and sealant in a tube to make installation easy? 😛
I can't wait for the video on installing the air liners. From what I've heard (never done it myself), they're a pain.
Tubeless seems more and more like a race day application. If you puncture with clinchers, you're out of the running. If you puncture with tubeless, MAYBE you can maintain position and finish.
For what it’s worth i love my Victoria Corsa Pro Control 28 TLR tires that I run tubeless/hookless with regular Orange Seal. I even feel like they saved my life when I was going way too fast down a steep hill and hit a bad pothole/raised cracks at about 30mph and that should have blown the tires off the rims according to TH-cam. The tires took it like a champ, didn’t burp or pinch puncture. The rim even took a hard strike. But I’ve only been riding since march and I respect your opinion. So much so I plan on getting a set of HED Ardenne black from you based on your reviews.
Thank you for your feedback. They are great tires! If you are planning on getting the HED Ardennes anyway please consider purchasing them from me. I am a ONE man shop and can use the business for something you would be purchasing anyway and especially after possibly using my videos in your decision making process. Contact me directly at “revcycling@gmail.com”
Very good video! well done George!
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As a subscriber, i enjoy your experiences to help discern the hype of marketing consumers deal with...one note..as a silica wax user for the last 2 years, they recommend a renewal after about 1000 k and top off after about 300 k..i run 2 chains..change once a month and re-lube once a week, not bad..also bicycle rolling resistance site just dropped a review of the Rene tires you're using if interested..
Thank You for watching John! Yes I ordered the Super Secret drip lube so instead of topping of i want to use it as the primary method. Funny just a video where Silca said to use the drip lube and apply twice so you can get up to 90% the saturation or fill rate you get from immersion.
I love the Rene Herse tires for ride quality, grip on mountain descents and perception of reduced rolling resistance! I’ll check out the review on BRR
In recent years unfortunately road bikes became the target of the tech snobs who are willing to swallow every pseudo innovation used just to nip some nickel from them.
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad im sure youve seen it, but the site zero friction cycling, has got a lot of great data on lubrication..they show a big difference from immersion to drip in lengh of time between relubes.drip will work but wont last as long..there talking 10000 miles on a chain before .5 stretch..pretty impressive..
Personally I recommend vittoria road bike tires as well. The ride comfort thing I don't get anyway. However I found them to be quite puncture safe.
Hi George, regarding tubeless quite a few years ago when I set up my ritchey road logic I purchased some Shimano wheels not realizing that they were tubeless ready and set them up with tubes. As time passed I had the usual punctures and on the roadside to break the bead was a real hassle. I believe this was because the rims were tubeless ready and a tight fit. That's when I went to tubeless and after a couple of minor issues learning about set up they have worked fine. On two occasions I did need to fit a tube on the roadside but the bead broke quite easily, I assume the moist sealant worked as a lube but there have been many rides that have uninterrupted when the sealant has done it's job. For context they are 28 tyres but I am in the process of going to 30 just because the bike also goes on gravel. Also I use latex tubes on my race wheels so I believe different set ups suit different situations.
Thanks for your videos, Bill from NZ
Thank You for your experiences and thanks for watching from NZ!
You are right on the chain waxing needing to be re-waxed too often if you ride a lot. I just wipe down my chain after every ride and re-lube; easy takes couple minutes and keeps chain fairly clean.
I carry two inner tubes and a patch kit when I ride, seems like overkill for sealant and foam inserts on road bike.
I get that people don’t want to deal with flat tires, but with two tire levers, it doesn’t take too long to change inner tube.
Happy riding George and waiting to see how your experience goes with the Vittoria products. 🚴🏻♂️
Chain waxing with 2-3 chains in rotation then drip lube in between for 1000km redunk- so why not use the drip lube method anyway 😂
Good tires and high tire pressure are on a road bike very important to avoid flats. My rescue setup is one spare and a set of patches. On a road bike you can actually take the tire off without any levers. Just make sure to push the beat inwards before starting to take it off in one place. And I recommend a dual use pump CO2 and handwork.
Usually on longer riders I recommend a small lube tube with you. After about 150km every chain loves some additional lubrication. Moreover, should you hit some rain shower it will be almost necessary to lube the chain after getting out of it.
Looking forward to the post ride assessment! I saw something like this the other day in my local bike shop. The foam insert seems a weird to me.
It does to me too! But it came over from the MTB side
It's nothing new and a pretty old idea. It didn't proliferate because it doesn't really work.
I understand liners for MTB and gravel, but not for road. Does that liner not restrict the flow of sealant making it less efficient for the sealant to reach and properly seal the tire if it punctures? Also, as GV mentioned, what are you going to do if the puncture is so bad that you need to pull the liner and put in a tube? Liners are just a huge cash grab, the price is absurd for what it is.
Another option is the Corsa NEXT, it comes in tubeless or a clincher. I bought clinchers, but have not installed just yet. I'm anxious to get them on here soon.
Peak torque thought they were super slow tires
First, subscribed to your channel a few months back. Enjoy your candid review of products. Interested in a follow up review of the Corsa Pro tires. Don’t run tubeless on my road bikes to much hassle if sealant fails and then having to deal with a tube. Been there and said never again.
Vittoria airliner road is where it's at! I have 4,000+ miles riding them. Only had to use dynaplug 4 or 5 times. Now that's all I carry for myself. I just add another 40 ml of sealant every 3 or 4 months. I've ridden home on a flat tire twice. Been working in bike shops for the last 6+ years. I can change an inner tube in less than 2 minutes but after riding lower pressures with the tubeless tires I won't go back. Who wants to ever have to throw an inner tube into that goopy mess on the roadside? Not me. Tubeless road is getting super popular but I don't know why more people aren't trying these out. They start at 27 grams. My bike is 16 pounds so I try to be as much of a weight weenie as possible but these are more than worth it to me. I picked up a KOM the other day so I'm not feeling any negatives to the system at all. It's a little harder to set up up but you save all that time and then some by having less road side maintenance. The first time it took me quite a while but after doing it a few times I can set up a pair of tires and liners in about 20 minutes in the shop. So 20 minutes in the shop is saving me 20-120 minutes of annual road side maintenance. These are a 100% no brainer for me and I would never ride tubeless road without them. I've heard dozens of people say how stupid they are but I've never met a person that rode them that said that. Maybe those guys just like to take a messy break during their rides.
Hey, just wanted to let you know that 23 mm tires are alive and well.. matter fact, I just upgraded to 25s on my caad 9 lol. There are plenty of 23 mm tires still being made, and sold apparently.
Thanks, I will buy Victoria tire liner and sealant to try
Be careful with those. I loved them too, but when you need to change your tire...I cracked a carbon rim trying to get my tire off, using the tool I purchased from Vittoria. Had to toss em. $900 down the drain. I went back to tubes. Probably works great for larger volume tires (like above 700x35c) but for 700x30c and lower, it's insanely difficult to get the tire off (on is not hard at all) with the insert in them.
Tubeless: set up is a lottery, can be a real pain in the ass. Once you cross that hurdle it rolls notably faster and comfort is improved. If you get a puncture and it seals happy days! But when it fails, putting a tube in a gooey tire is a rubbish job. That's before we get into the bike cleanup. Don't forget the ongoing maintenance of topping up sealant. Overall for ease of use tubes win, tubeless may be worth exploring but you have to be aware for every up there is a down.
Use silca sealant for road tires/pressures. Works great for road pressures. They use bits of carbon fiber in the sealant to create seal. I didn’t believe in road tubeless till i started using silca. Completely trust my sealant now.
That stuff is SO messy to work with especially since you can’t put it through the valve. It also didn’t work for me on 28 tires and 65 psi then it clumped inside it’s terrible sealant for road.
Here watch this video
Why Road Tubeless sucks! What do I think about Silca Ultimate Sealant
th-cam.com/video/BDipWpiKA0s/w-d-xo.html
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad Thanks for the reply and link. Sealant is always messy. Silca is definitely high maintenance. You have to replenish with their replenisher every 3 months, then redo the entire sealant job every year. That said, i ride in NJ where our pavement is awful with tons of potholes and debris. I usually do 200-300 miles a week and 3 out of my 5 punctures this year were from pinch flats. I've only been on silca/road tubeless the last 2 months but it's been a dream. I'm running 25mm tires @80 psi and no more pinch flats. Had a puncture last week that sealed up on it's own with no noticeable loss of pressure. Only realized I punctured cause a buddy noticed sealant on my seatube. I was also a tubeless non believer but now im convinced that for at least my road conditions this is the way to go. In terms of emergency repair I carry 2oz of silca's replenisher and a tiny plug kit along with co2 and a tubolito just in case. If not for pinch flats I'd prob still be running tubes but for my conditions eliminating pinch flats is a huge relief. Also when we do our AM mock crits I don't have to be as careful with my line choice as I'm not worrying about as much about road surface and pinches. Plus tubeless corners better. I have another road bike that is now also running road tubeless at 28mm and I'll prob switch to silca from stans for my gravel bike. That said I do have several bikes and I would only run tubeless on bikes I ride often as there is definitely extra work involved in making sure the sealant is fresh enough to work. Anyways, safe riding, cheers.
Will be interested to see what your findings are!
Yes I just need to find the time and motivation to go through the install process 😂 (tubes are so much easier 😂)
I want to watch you install one of those liners
Good vid bro, I’ll have to try the Victoria tires
Thank you for watching
Looking forward to your review. Thanks George
You’re Welcome
Tubeless on road is great, and I ride 25mm wide tires and I am 105 kg, never a single problem
I’m glad it works for you
Spot on George
IMHO. Even for MTBs, tubeless doesn't really make that much sense. It's a big heavy-ish tire already. So, it's not about better ride quality from a thinner casing. Then add the fact that you have suspension and low psi. Just run a thicker tube and if there is really a need for sealant, put it in the tube. You only need the liners if taking repeated heavy hits. And in that case, sealant wouldn't save you anyway.
This is just crazy with those linners 😂😂😂 they won't change anything. They are good for mtb and gravel to run lower pressure and not damage the rim. But why in earth would anyone use it on road?
Those are my sentiments but I will just have to try it myself for you 😂 😂
The only use case I can see for those are pro racers at Paris Roubaix or Tour of Flanders...
@@samsepiol7080 Paris-Roubaix very good use case!
So what they are saying: don't use tubes, go tubeless, but put this "safety" piece of foam into your tubeless tyres and hope that you might get a seal when you puncture. If you don't get a seal then bad luck - just put a tube in (you have to carry one even though we want you to ride tubeless), and throw this piece of foam away (just leave it on the side of the road since you'll most likely puncture away from any bins/trash cans - unless you want to carry it back soaked in sealant, wrapped around your arm because no roadie will have storage for an object this big) HAHAHAHA they really want to sell us sht we don't need, don't they.
10:12 exactly what I just said above! Anyone who's capable of critical thinking should ask this question in the first 30 seconds of being told how great this is. It's pathetic how they play these tricks on less experienced, gullible (young) riders. And they sell this wrapped in "green packaging" so that customers feel good about buying crap they really shouldn't be buying at all. And this approach can be seen everywhere.
You get it!