Jalter's what I call a "big stick" servant. When utility isn't enough to save you, sometimes you just need to hit it with a big stick until it dies. And Jalter has the biggest stick around.
Except that Jalter has nowhere the biggest stick, not even among her class, most people just got mislead by that garbage NP damage sheet that only relevant in solo scenarios, but become completely irrelevant in practical team with supports.
So we're judging single target servants meant to fight bosses by their ability to farm now? Either I'm misunderstanding you or you talkin some goofy bullshit rn. Like I said, you don't bring Jalter because you need an overwhelming synergy or to create some cheese strat; you bring Jalter because you have all your other bases covered and just need *damage.* You only really ever need her for a boss fight (solo scenarios) so there's one focus for all her stupid ass damage on her cards. That's all she's good for. Considering she *still* has the highest attack stat in the game in JP, she's an incredibly reasonable investment to get at least one copy of for those times when all you need is damage. Not utility, not cheese; just a really big stick to beat it until it stops moving. if I want to beat the shit out of multiple things I'm going to bring somebody like Summer Ibuki, Summer Karma, Summer Musashi, or SpIshtar. You bring Jalter to say fuck you to one mother fucker in particular, but you bring the rest of these lovely ladies when you need to just air the whole block out.
@@lhv2k Bruh....Jalter sucks in solo unless you are fighting against ruler wdym. The way she shines the most is when the team gives the utility she needs. I have been playing with since her release and yet I still often surprise how much she can dish her damage out with a single face card. And not to mention she can get full np when a wind breeze hit her. The crit is her bonus and it hits like or more than other's np. Also you know what cq and last node of farming quest needs nowaday? A fuck load of dmg and guess who can dish out a fuck load of dmg without class advantage? So I don't know what you are smoking but if you don't know, just don't pretend you know it alright?
I remember fighting goetta and not knowing his gimmick and having to use all my command spells to solo him with Jalter since she's the only one of my units that survives his np. Was the funnest fight ive had in fgo
Let's be real. Break Bars were implemented specifically because servants like Jalter, Kintoki and Herc were obliterating bosses in one hit through buff stacking and combat suit swapping. It was a direct fuck you nerf to all such servants and the biggest reason that NP Looping rather than nuking became the meta. Jalter didn't fall off. The devs changed the game's state in an attempt to invalidate her playstyle. Despite that she is still very strong.
thats one of the most down to earth comments i saw about this game lately, people keep fighting about what the best/strongest servant is and forget that the game changed A LOT on the last couple years,some strategies and gameplay are not as good as they were back then, doesnt matter if the character have the biggest atk if their mechanics didnt adapt well to how bosses works nowdays.But it is still fun seeing jalter obliterating some bosses LOL
I still like Jalter. She gave me the best gacha pull I've ever had in any game. Triple Jalters on one multi. I'm never managing that again, but will always appreciate her for it. I do wish though that she would both get a buff or two along with a much needed animation update. She's definitely not top tier with all the great servants that have come out over the years. But she can still hit hard and I still bring her to smash any rulers I face. That's good for me.
I think this is the first unit in Servant Spotlight history to have actually gone down in ranking with the updated review. And tragically it's not even her fault, but instead of how she and her Non Alter counterpart are so neglected by the developers despite being some of the more popular characters (in Jalter's case one of the most popular) I think her going down from the coveted S ranking all the way back from the Servant Spotlight early days has shown how far FGO has come from the 2016 era
@@wv77m Pretty much. Lancer Artoria got an strenghtening AND sprite update while her Alter still has the notorious "big head" that all the earlier sprites had. Don't even get me started on OG Jeanne having 3 sprite updates (of which none were big) and still having basic animations.
The fact that Jalter is still in the top 10 servants leveled to 120 as of year 7 in jp shows you just how popular she is. And if I remember correctly from the chart the devs showed off, most of the other servants on that list were probably leveled that high since they're farmers.
Seriously, even Space Ishtar and Castoria are becoming arguably less relevant if the trend of 90++ nodes having only 1 enemy per wave and an enemy with crazy high HP on the last wave goes on
Not every servant necessarily needs a battery. I'd argue that she needs more star generation keep her crit damage sustained. The 30 star bomb is great, but its only good for the next turn. She needs more sustained crit damage rather than looping. I'd say put a *star gen* or *stars per turn* buff on her *Charisma* and strengthen her burn damage. That's really all she needs. It's a backup so she doesn't have to rely on supports to keep her dps numbers, they just improve it.
improving her star gathering would give her almost perma 50 stars for a couple of turns, thats the exact opposite the devs want for her, i know people love jalter but giving to a buster servant with the highest atk in the game solo 50 stars sustain for multiple turns is way to absurd. thats why a 30% battery would be good, she would be able to np more frequently(not loop tho,otherwise that would stil lbe broken lol) and dish a lot of damage without spamming crits Not to mention her buff block is super underapreciated, she can cheese a lot of boss fights and its something people dont give her enough credit for,and that 30% battery would sinergize well with that
Still a good unit overall even with erice coming in as arts is always better in general for loops. What jalter needs is an animation upgrade and she'll be fine for the rest of the game which is still strange she hasn't gotten one yet.
Many things have changed since her debut in the game, we have gotten ew classes, new supports, new CEs, command codes, etc. But the thing that imo holds her back the most are new enemies, Buff blocking was excellent back then but is only ok now because now most bosses, even story ones, come with a sort of permanent buffs make buff blocking/removal somewhat of a joke, like how Shi Huang Di is able to crit her to death funnily enough. She's still super cute tho, gl to everyone rolling for Jalter!
I got her in her last Rate Up earlier this year. I haven't use her a lot because there wasn't really that much boss battles and because I'm lazy to farm pages (seriously, every fucking servant I got ask for some pages). But I love the character, somehow tragic but still funny as fuck. I gonna save some SQ from my MHXX founds for at least a couple of rolls for her NP2.
She's still an S for me. She continues to HARD carry me everywhere, cause Buster Crits don't care who you are. She's worth every resource you give her.
Even after all these years Jalter is still one of my favorite units to use vs bosses and such. She might have fallen off a bit but she still gets everything done with ease. Also with the right buff she's gonna be top tier again.
She's still my favorite, I will always use her. She ate 400 of my quartz for one copy, which was rude, but she's still the buster Queen of my Chaldea, and the damage she does with Himiko and Okita Alter supporting her is still unreal.
Well at the advent of break bars and NP looping really have hampered Jeanne Alter. I would really wished she would be given an NP battery, as even though she excels with an insane 1 turn Burst Damage but have no follow up after that.
tbh jalter +2 Merlins are still a go to for longer boss fight I can't knock out with my Castoria teams since Merlin can heal, give invincibility, and charge NP and Jalter is very sustainable with that team
Jalter was the first SSR I really worked for back when I was still F2P. Even when I paid on the New Year banners and got other 5-stars, she was the one that helped me blast through all of Part 1 of the story. She was my first level 100 and first to get to +2K stats. If the only thing she needs is some kind of utility, then maybe either one of her skills or her NP applies 'Dragon' to all allies? Granted I have no idea if this would actually be super helpful or not, but I feel like that would be a decent way to give her some utility without adding something wacky to her kit like a cleanse (bc why would a vengeful alternative of Jeanne have a cleanse in terms of flavor?).
One thing I still appreciate about her even to this day is how easy it is to get her up and running on a new account since one of her ideal support setups is Hans, a borrowed Merlin, and maybe a Shakespeare in the back when someone falls. She'll benefit a lot from Miss Crane coming in a few months as well.
I like Jalter's look. But her attack combo definitely needs changing. By combonI mean the animation could be cooler. Like I love Scathac,Okita, Musashi, Saber and Saber Alters move set for example. But yes she is so popular that her 1/7 figure with the hugeeee flag 46cm tall sold out pre order already at 26800 yen. More on resellers
Jalter was the one servant that lead to me starting to play FGO. I had saved for half a year for her and when I didn't get her I almost quit the game. I'll probably pull a few times for her for old times sake, but I gotta have some SQ for upcoming servants.
Fanart of her is what got me into fgo. #1 Waifu. Second ssr I got and first to level 100 and 2k fou'd. She and Ereshkigal have all my love and both deserve more from Lasengle.
As a f2p I have been play since year 1 NA and Julter is my only NP5 and my wifu. I have no regrets target her over 4 different rate ups for 4 years. And yes she dose need supports because she is a glass cannon. But a glass cannon that shoots hydrogen bombs!
Shes still pretty fantastic, Its just that high end of that top tier is now filled with more servants. But I will say I haven't turned to her as my go to for some time now. She carried me through a lot of the game earlier on but I often now have servants the fill a niche and shes more of a generalist. I have also got a lvl 115 Gorgon which might cloud my judgement when it comes to ruler fights.
As a owner as a 120 Jalter, I agree that she is def not good by herself nor without support. She does do good when I just need something to die fast, breakbars or not. The final boss for LB 6 she essentially solod it for me lol. She does what she does best, kill single things and sometimes groups really fast. It’s not rare I use her more then not; She is bond 13 for me. Tbh I also have tattoos of her so I guess I am kinda biased to always be on her side. Good video. She will always be S+ to me because waifu💀
@@poly3706 Honestly just go for the NP start because she can do well with her NP going first to gather stars for her buster cards. As little as 20% start is, you can match that with an Aerial Drive for the 50%, totaling 70% with a support to help with the last 30%. Extra attack I’d only get if I knew I was able to get both of them since if you get a NPBB, you can do a shitload of damage but the extra attack isn’t necessary. However, I don’t really spam my Jalter’s NP since my comp will make her do more damage with her face cards than NP lol. Up to you honestly, I’d say if you want utility and stars for someone else to switch with her then just get NP up. If you’re going to make her your sole dps for like everything like I do, I’d go for Extra Attack and then NP tbh. Lowkey gotta have both. The third append is not good don’t get it unless you literally have nothing else to get beforehand. You don’t fight a lot of avengers really. 👍👍👍
Jalter is still great but imo the existence of Super Orion makes her significantly less appealing to roll for unless you really like Jalter or want to round out your account a little by getting an Avenger for those rare Ruler fights. Big Buster crits are Jalter's main thing and Super Orion brings a lot more to the table in that regard, alongside the potential to actually have class advantage since he isn't an Extra Class servant. Now obviously not everyone has Super Orion, but he will be on rate up during the New Years Pickup Summon which is just a few months away now.
buff block is one of the best utility against break bar servants since they do apply some nasty buffs on break. However, this can easily be countered by high magical resistance. Not sure if all break bar challenge content is buff blockable but I did ran into some instance where it works.
I just got my first Jalter after 5 years of this damn game, took out her dusty costume to finally be able to put it on her after unlocking it during Shinjuku.
I tried getting on her debut event and the rerun just to fail spectacularly in both cases. Sorry JAlter, you ignored me for too long and your vanilla self has comforted me in that time.
My answer is always still yes. Jalter is still my favourite boss killer. (I'm happy with NP2 though). Its nice that Jalter is so friendly to new players. Hard to get, easy to use.
If there is a single servant I had to give credit for carrying me through most of the first campaign, its Jalter. She's useful for the vast majority of fights with the first time I really had to not use her was facing BB in a few side events. And she still can curb stomp enemies in lost belts with Zeus being a cake walk due to her slapping him around like a he's a mouthy brat.
There is exactly one thing keeping me from taking her straight to level 120. And that is that I need at least one more copy of her to get enough Servant Coins for her to get there.
Jalter will always remain my #1 favorite servant, rankings and meta be damned. She is my only Lvl 120 servant, NP5, 2k/2k Fous, every skill and append skill maxed, with her command cards currently at +300 each with beast paw prints and decked out with command codes. All I need now is her costume rerelease on NA, and I’ll always hope for Holy Night Supper to get a rerelease as well, but I’ll manage with what I’ve got. I’ve used her in almost every challenge quest since getting her and she hasn’t let me down once. Now if Lasengle would just give her the animation update she deserves…
Mana Loading is, 90% of the time, going to be your best pick. After that, her extra attack would be a better choice over her anti-Avenger append, as Avengers just don’t pop up often enough to be relevant.
Already have her at Np2 Lv.100 2000/2000 and I'm gonna roll on every banner she has until I get her Np.5, She's the servant that got me into the game and I actually summoned her when I started so she's been with me my whole journey.
Same here mate, I started my main account(a JP account) exactly because of her: it was back when they first released the SSR ticket and there was a rotating banner with a Jalter rate up on it, since she was growing on me a lot as a waifu I rerolled until I got her and then kept that account. She was my first SSR on this account AND the first servant I've grailed(ever), unfortunatly she's still np1 cause every time I tried to get a 2nd copy I failed (I'm ftp btw). I really hope she'll receive an animation update someday but I know that the devs don't care much about her even though she's very popular. Also I'd like that they brought back her summer version like they did with BB or Santa Altera for example because on my main account I don't have her. She's currently sitting at lvl 110, 10/10/10, 2000/2000
The reason I cherish her was due to her being my first Special Class character when I gacha'ed for her rotation banner earlier this year in NA and that she was the first servant that I ever 10/10/10 before Castoria. However, I still lack the aid of Merlin but I currently substituted merlin for Chen Gong's 3 which I maxed out
if you need to get a fight done in three turns or less Top flight one of the best in class but if you have to go longer than that there are significantly better options but God damn can she nuke a health bar I thank all the lovely people back in the day who Grailed her to level 100 because that made my day so much easier I had great AOE damage back in the day with Arthur prototype for most things but she helped with single Target more than anyone else I still want her like badly I want another single Target even though I have miyamoto musashi.
Jalter is my first SSR, literally got her when I first met her in Orleans Singularity. Little did I know that I have the best Berserker deleter in the game.
I think Jalter just needs a NP Battery and an ability to make her Dragon Attribute. I mean come on, she was first introduced as the DRAGON Witch or Orleans. Then again, maybe the devs are a bit hesitant to buff her when she just dishes out crits like normal.
I'm summoning her for np6 to get my full appends on her. Just got 120 on her too so i'm very happy. Wish me luck gamers Got np6 Jalter so fully appended. I'm very happy to have fully maxed my waifu
Honestly, even at the advent of break bars with all the "Jalter is dead" nonsense, I don't think it was ever true. ST Servants in general are inherently less powerful than AoEs, so she's at an outright disadvantage there for sure, but she always was and still is a hugely powerful option. Buff block on her NP specifically is quite powerful, since it pretty much guarantees to apply on break if a break effect is blockable - I remember running Merlin/Jalter/Jalter against the Ruler fight in LB3, and she basically completely turned them off with buff block and the fight was over without blinking. She definitely could use a little more utility, but other big hitters in her environ - Arjuna Alter, Kintoki Berserker, Chad Orion - are light on utility (or have none at all) and no one holds it against them. She is substantially weakened in some contexts by the mere existence of Oberon - BG and Oberon gives any Buster Servant access to such a massive damage ceiling that, for single-turn burst, Jalter is mostly unneeded when you can take your pick of ST Buster welfares or other power hitters, borrow an Oberon, and call it a day - maybe throw in a Shakespeare if you're new and need the extra 20%. So she is a bit redundant, but if the worst thing you can say about someone is "Oberon made them redundant", that's still pretty good praise.
Jalter still hits like a fucking truck and is pretty tanky thanks to her neutral class advantage. She is still very much holding her own in the LBs as my go-to boss killer. Jeanne/Jalter/Memelin got me through Demeter with ease and I'm looking forward to soloing Zeus with her.
I managed to get her to NP5 on her last rate up earlier this year, so no need to roll now. Looking forward to Koyanskaya and Oberon next year to up her ability. She can still cut difficult bosses just with Merlin and Waver so to me she's still more than relevant.
Thanks for this, CEs is always what I'm wondering about to put on her. What with all the new ones we keep getting. Just rolled my 5th and 6th copy today, with 1 ticket (5th) and then a 11 multi (6th). Guess she was eager to come home. Now I just need 3 Grails to 120 and to finish fou printing her quick and an arts card and she's all maxed out ❤
She obliterated Zeus. And while she can't loop, have you seen how much refund she gets on an arts crit? Woman doesn't really need a battery with those gains. She's older, but still one of my most beloved servants.
I luck sacked her today, one single ticket off a rainbow and I was so happy She was always that one servant that kind of tempted me for a while but I never took it seriously or just never took a shot I guess it was more like I didn’t care but then in the last month some kind of temptation or impulse grew and then she popped up on the banner I threw a ticket and got her and I honestly like her She is still great, she just needs a few buffs and hopefully an animation update (and I need to wait for her spiritrom to return)
Jalter is the only reason why I'm still trying to pull Merlin(I got Skadi and Castoria in a single 10 pull but apparently Merlin is worth more than 2k SQ)
What i hate, is the fact even till tbis day, she is popular, and even with that, not her or her "big sis" receive a single sprite update, it hurts to see her with that big head, specially with the shinjuku dress
Yesterday I rolled 30SQ on Gil/Ozy, and got my third copy of Gil. Rolled the Jalter/Orion banner today, did a 30SQ, and got my second copy of Jalter on the first summon. I'm done for a while now I think.
Needs kit buffs (charisma buff would probably be the best or make the buster up last 3 turns) and an animation update(along with Jeanne) but I still love her too much
My 1sr ssr in NA since i start fgo in 2018 and saved me on most singularties and my Ace servant during zeus fight.... Not maybe my best waifu or best girl on my ranking but she is best for gameplay.
I never had very good summons for the first year and a half of FGO, no 5*s at all and especially with Jalter. Avenger Alter is deadly and a few of my friends have NP5 Jalters, but at this point I am happy with Summer Jalter as the closest I'll get.
Mines sat at level 100 10/10/10 but I need a second copy. hopefully she comes home again on the new years GSSR if I don't get a new servant. I can't wait for that sweet sweet shinjuku outfit edit: I got a second copy in three multis. but 15 multis isn't enough for himiko? gacha is a bitch
I disagree with putting her in A+. Nothing in the game has become anti-Jeanne Alter, we get really good buster supports, she got a very good buff, and she has synergy (albeit not as strong) with ALL the Arts supports. Also being able to hit everything in the game hard for the exception of moon cancers makes her valuable to all kinds of accounts. She remains firmly in S, and if they gave her an NP battery she would be a candidate for EX.
I'm fine keeping Jalter at NP2. Especially when she gets her NP buff next year on NA, since it's basically like getting 3 free copies of her for Jalter's old NP5 damage
I got my Jalter at NP2 in a single roll, is one of those moments that you just can't believe until it happens to you, an since then, she have been my single target main for pretty much everything, specially story related, is insane how her crits are sometimes stronger than a quick servant with double scadi, personally, I would still put her in S tier, she is just that strong, and with the coming supports, she will go nuts over the wall
Jeannes loves me i mean jalter came to me without even a slight struggle with a single multi and 2 weeks after that there was class specific banner I pulled on the extra class banner because I wanted salieri and what do you know first multi jeanne d'arc. I didn't try to get jarcher although I'm not sure would I have gotten her?
As someone who admittedly was never a Jalter fanboy. And just saw her as just an okay character. I'd look at her kit and skills even when she first came out and I'd go meh... I always found despite her high attack stat you could almost always do better just bringing class advantage. Her only real big uses that I saw was during some Berserker Raids, or big Berserker boss fights since this was before the big support servant meta, or I guess a Ruler boss. Which was pretty rare admittedly. During this time I considered her honestly to be a B tier SSR. Her S ranking never made sense to me, and it still doesn't. The only thing I could think of, was that she was strong enough to take care of the majority of the original singularities. But even then, a Herc could pretty much do the same. As for now I'd probably rank her slightly higher than previously. There are more Zerker enemies, and more Rulers to fight against. Her NP Upgrade also helps dish out exceptional damage on the following turn. Potentially refunding her NP, or just doing massive damage. Obviously more supports for her now. She still isn't just game breaking must have, but she's a nice pick up. I'd give her a solid A tier. A full upgrade from my previous ranking. Which is weird since unlike everyone else my initial thoughts on her are quite a bit lower than how hyped up she was. By the way I do own Jalter. So it's not like I didn't get to test her besides the myriad of level 100 Jalters on my friendslist as well. lol
We all know that the REAL buff Jalter needs is an animation update
And a fix of her NP’s two horrible French typos.
(La grondement => Le grondement
Du haine => De la haine)
@@TerraDoctor japanese being japanese sir !.
@@TerraDoctor Y'all realize it's in her lore that she's illiterate right? 🤦♂️
@@TerraDoctor Honestly, even as a native French speaker (not French though), I found it so funny that I would be kind of sad if it changed
@@TerraDoctor I think her lacking in French is why she wants to learn German lol.
Jalter's what I call a "big stick" servant. When utility isn't enough to save you, sometimes you just need to hit it with a big stick until it dies. And Jalter has the biggest stick around.
Agreed. Certain doujins have confirmed it....
Except that Jalter has nowhere the biggest stick, not even among her class, most people just got mislead by that garbage NP damage sheet that only relevant in solo scenarios, but become completely irrelevant in practical team with supports.
So we're judging single target servants meant to fight bosses by their ability to farm now? Either I'm misunderstanding you or you talkin some goofy bullshit rn.
Like I said, you don't bring Jalter because you need an overwhelming synergy or to create some cheese strat; you bring Jalter because you have all your other bases covered and just need *damage.* You only really ever need her for a boss fight (solo scenarios) so there's one focus for all her stupid ass damage on her cards. That's all she's good for. Considering she *still* has the highest attack stat in the game in JP, she's an incredibly reasonable investment to get at least one copy of for those times when all you need is damage. Not utility, not cheese; just a really big stick to beat it until it stops moving.
if I want to beat the shit out of multiple things I'm going to bring somebody like Summer Ibuki, Summer Karma, Summer Musashi, or SpIshtar. You bring Jalter to say fuck you to one mother fucker in particular, but you bring the rest of these lovely ladies when you need to just air the whole block out.
@@lhv2k Highest atk begs to differ.
@@lhv2k Bruh....Jalter sucks in solo unless you are fighting against ruler wdym. The way she shines the most is when the team gives the utility she needs. I have been playing with since her release and yet I still often surprise how much she can dish her damage out with a single face card. And not to mention she can get full np when a wind breeze hit her. The crit is her bonus and it hits like or more than other's np. Also you know what cq and last node of farming quest needs nowaday? A fuck load of dmg and guess who can dish out a fuck load of dmg without class advantage? So I don't know what you are smoking but if you don't know, just don't pretend you know it alright?
I mean, she was the Last Woman Standing when I was fighting Zeus. She still shares #1 in my heart.
Same
She's also the QSH's kryptonite. Lol
I remember fighting goetta and not knowing his gimmick and having to use all my command spells to solo him with Jalter since she's the only one of my units that survives his np. Was the funnest fight ive had in fgo
As is she in mine. I’m just giving her a well deserved vacation for saving humanity in Part 1
same actually
Let's be real. Break Bars were implemented specifically because servants like Jalter, Kintoki and Herc were obliterating bosses in one hit through buff stacking and combat suit swapping. It was a direct fuck you nerf to all such servants and the biggest reason that NP Looping rather than nuking became the meta. Jalter didn't fall off. The devs changed the game's state in an attempt to invalidate her playstyle. Despite that she is still very strong.
thats one of the most down to earth comments i saw about this game lately, people keep fighting about what the best/strongest servant is and forget that the game changed A LOT on the last couple years,some strategies and gameplay are not as good as they were back then, doesnt matter if the character have the biggest atk if their mechanics didnt adapt well to how bosses works nowdays.But it is still fun seeing jalter obliterating some bosses LOL
I still like Jalter. She gave me the best gacha pull I've ever had in any game. Triple Jalters on one multi. I'm never managing that again, but will always appreciate her for it. I do wish though that she would both get a buff or two along with a much needed animation update. She's definitely not top tier with all the great servants that have come out over the years. But she can still hit hard and I still bring her to smash any rulers I face. That's good for me.
I can't match three copies in one pull. But the pull after my first copy had two. So yes, she definitely can take a liking to some people.
I think this is the first unit in Servant Spotlight history to have actually gone down in ranking with the updated review.
And tragically it's not even her fault, but instead of how she and her Non Alter counterpart are so neglected by the developers despite being some of the more popular characters (in Jalter's case one of the most popular)
I think her going down from the coveted S ranking all the way back from the Servant Spotlight early days has shown how far FGO has come from the 2016 era
She is in FGO jail just like Ereshkigal. The devs push what they want you to like not what the players really want sometimes.
@@wv77m Ereshkigal did get a buff tho a little while back
But I agree that the lack of Summer Eresh is concerning.
@@wv77m Pretty much. Lancer Artoria got an strenghtening AND sprite update while her Alter still has the notorious "big head" that all the earlier sprites had.
Don't even get me started on OG Jeanne having 3 sprite updates (of which none were big) and still having basic animations.
The fact that Jalter is still in the top 10 servants leveled to 120 as of year 7 in jp shows you just how popular she is. And if I remember correctly from the chart the devs showed off, most of the other servants on that list were probably leveled that high since they're farmers.
Seriously, even Space Ishtar and Castoria are becoming arguably less relevant if the trend of 90++ nodes having only 1 enemy per wave and an enemy with crazy high HP on the last wave goes on
Not every servant necessarily needs a battery. I'd argue that she needs more star generation keep her crit damage sustained. The 30 star bomb is great, but its only good for the next turn. She needs more sustained crit damage rather than looping. I'd say put a *star gen* or *stars per turn* buff on her *Charisma* and strengthen her burn damage. That's really all she needs. It's a backup so she doesn't have to rely on supports to keep her dps numbers, they just improve it.
The best buff they gave Jalter was Summer BB tbh
improving her star gathering would give her almost perma 50 stars for a couple of turns, thats the exact opposite the devs want for her, i know people love jalter but giving to a buster servant with the highest atk in the game solo 50 stars sustain for multiple turns is way to absurd. thats why a 30% battery would be good, she would be able to np more frequently(not loop tho,otherwise that would stil lbe broken lol) and dish a lot of damage without spamming crits
Not to mention her buff block is super underapreciated, she can cheese a lot of boss fights and its something people dont give her enough credit for,and that 30% battery would sinergize well with that
Still a good unit overall even with erice coming in as arts is always better in general for loops.
What jalter needs is an animation upgrade and she'll be fine for the rest of the game which is still strange she hasn't gotten one yet.
Many things have changed since her debut in the game, we have gotten ew classes, new supports, new CEs, command codes, etc.
But the thing that imo holds her back the most are new enemies, Buff blocking was excellent back then but is only ok now because now most bosses, even story ones, come with a sort of permanent buffs make buff blocking/removal somewhat of a joke, like how Shi Huang Di is able to crit her to death funnily enough.
She's still super cute tho, gl to everyone rolling for Jalter!
I got her in her last Rate Up earlier this year. I haven't use her a lot because there wasn't really that much boss battles and because I'm lazy to farm pages (seriously, every fucking servant I got ask for some pages). But I love the character, somehow tragic but still funny as fuck. I gonna save some SQ from my MHXX founds for at least a couple of rolls for her NP2.
She's still an S for me. She continues to HARD carry me everywhere, cause Buster Crits don't care who you are. She's worth every resource you give her.
Even after all these years Jalter is still one of my favorite units to use vs bosses and such.
She might have fallen off a bit but she still gets everything done with ease.
Also with the right buff she's gonna be top tier again.
Ah Jalter
She's still my favorite, I will always use her. She ate 400 of my quartz for one copy, which was rude, but she's still the buster Queen of my Chaldea, and the damage she does with Himiko and Okita Alter supporting her is still unreal.
Well at the advent of break bars and NP looping really have hampered Jeanne Alter. I would really wished she would be given an NP battery, as even though she excels with an insane 1 turn Burst Damage but have no follow up after that.
tbh jalter +2 Merlins are still a go to for longer boss fight I can't knock out with my Castoria teams since Merlin can heal, give invincibility, and charge NP and Jalter is very sustainable with that team
Jalter was the first SSR I really worked for back when I was still F2P. Even when I paid on the New Year banners and got other 5-stars, she was the one that helped me blast through all of Part 1 of the story. She was my first level 100 and first to get to +2K stats. If the only thing she needs is some kind of utility, then maybe either one of her skills or her NP applies 'Dragon' to all allies? Granted I have no idea if this would actually be super helpful or not, but I feel like that would be a decent way to give her some utility without adding something wacky to her kit like a cleanse (bc why would a vengeful alternative of Jeanne have a cleanse in terms of flavor?).
She also got one of the best buffs, having her costume obtainable from the ms crane shop FINALLY!
When does NA get that?
@@xanxusvongola6413 When Miss Crane comes.
@@xanxusvongola6413 the 2500 DL campaign
One thing I still appreciate about her even to this day is how easy it is to get her up and running on a new account since one of her ideal support setups is Hans, a borrowed Merlin, and maybe a Shakespeare in the back when someone falls. She'll benefit a lot from Miss Crane coming in a few months as well.
I like Jalter's look. But her attack combo definitely needs changing. By combonI mean the animation could be cooler.
Like I love Scathac,Okita, Musashi, Saber and Saber Alters move set for example.
But yes she is so popular that her 1/7 figure with the hugeeee flag 46cm tall sold out pre order already at 26800 yen. More on resellers
Jalter was the one servant that lead to me starting to play FGO. I had saved for half a year for her and when I didn't get her I almost quit the game.
I'll probably pull a few times for her for old times sake, but I gotta have some SQ for upcoming servants.
Good luck!
The best buff on jalter was her shinjuku costume.
Fanart of her is what got me into fgo. #1 Waifu. Second ssr I got and first to level 100 and 2k fou'd. She and Ereshkigal have all my love and both deserve more from Lasengle.
As a f2p I have been play since year 1 NA and Julter is my only NP5 and my wifu. I have no regrets target her over 4 different rate ups for 4 years. And yes she dose need supports because she is a glass cannon. But a glass cannon that shoots hydrogen bombs!
Shes still pretty fantastic, Its just that high end of that top tier is now filled with more servants.
But I will say I haven't turned to her as my go to for some time now. She carried me through a lot of the game earlier on but I often now have servants the fill a niche and shes more of a generalist.
I have also got a lvl 115 Gorgon which might cloud my judgement when it comes to ruler fights.
As a owner as a 120 Jalter, I agree that she is def not good by herself nor without support. She does do good when I just need something to die fast, breakbars or not. The final boss for LB 6 she essentially solod it for me lol. She does what she does best, kill single things and sometimes groups really fast. It’s not rare I use her more then not; She is bond 13 for me. Tbh I also have tattoos of her so I guess I am kinda biased to always be on her side. Good video. She will always be S+ to me because waifu💀
which 2 appends are best on her? just got her np3
@@poly3706 Honestly just go for the NP start because she can do well with her NP going first to gather stars for her buster cards. As little as 20% start is, you can match that with an Aerial Drive for the 50%, totaling 70% with a support to help with the last 30%. Extra attack I’d only get if I knew I was able to get both of them since if you get a NPBB, you can do a shitload of damage but the extra attack isn’t necessary. However, I don’t really spam my Jalter’s NP since my comp will make her do more damage with her face cards than NP lol. Up to you honestly, I’d say if you want utility and stars for someone else to switch with her then just get NP up. If you’re going to make her your sole dps for like everything like I do, I’d go for Extra Attack and then NP tbh. Lowkey gotta have both. The third append is not good don’t get it unless you literally have nothing else to get beforehand. You don’t fight a lot of avengers really. 👍👍👍
Since we are getting 1-1-1 with a ridiculous turn 3 HP, I think Jalter is still S-tier.
Jalter is still great but imo the existence of Super Orion makes her significantly less appealing to roll for unless you really like Jalter or want to round out your account a little by getting an Avenger for those rare Ruler fights. Big Buster crits are Jalter's main thing and Super Orion brings a lot more to the table in that regard, alongside the potential to actually have class advantage since he isn't an Extra Class servant. Now obviously not everyone has Super Orion, but he will be on rate up during the New Years Pickup Summon which is just a few months away now.
buff block is one of the best utility against break bar servants since they do apply some nasty buffs on break. However, this can easily be countered by high magical resistance. Not sure if all break bar challenge content is buff blockable but I did ran into some instance where it works.
I remember reading discussions on choosing between Cu Alter and Jalter, in my case, Jalter won and I rolled for her over him, lol.
I just got my first Jalter after 5 years of this damn game, took out her dusty costume to finally be able to put it on her after unlocking it during Shinjuku.
I tried getting on her debut event and the rerun just to fail spectacularly in both cases.
Sorry JAlter, you ignored me for too long and your vanilla self has comforted me in that time.
My answer is always still yes. Jalter is still my favourite boss killer. (I'm happy with NP2 though). Its nice that Jalter is so friendly to new players. Hard to get, easy to use.
If there is a single servant I had to give credit for carrying me through most of the first campaign, its Jalter. She's useful for the vast majority of fights with the first time I really had to not use her was facing BB in a few side events. And she still can curb stomp enemies in lost belts with Zeus being a cake walk due to her slapping him around like a he's a mouthy brat.
When I summoned Jalter 2 years ago I put here on my team immediately and she’s been my vanguard ever since. I’ve never taken her off my team!
There is exactly one thing keeping me from taking her straight to level 120. And that is that I need at least one more copy of her to get enough Servant Coins for her to get there.
Imagine Jalter buster crit potential skyrocketing with double Koyan+Merlin
Jalter will always remain my #1 favorite servant, rankings and meta be damned.
She is my only Lvl 120 servant, NP5, 2k/2k Fous, every skill and append skill maxed, with her command cards currently at +300 each with beast paw prints and decked out with command codes.
All I need now is her costume rerelease on NA, and I’ll always hope for Holy Night Supper to get a rerelease as well, but I’ll manage with what I’ve got.
I’ve used her in almost every challenge quest since getting her and she hasn’t let me down once.
Now if Lasengle would just give her the animation update she deserves…
i have her np3 which 2 appends would be best on her?
Mana Loading is, 90% of the time, going to be your best pick. After that, her extra attack would be a better choice over her anti-Avenger append, as Avengers just don’t pop up often enough to be relevant.
Already have her at Np2 Lv.100 2000/2000 and I'm gonna roll on every banner she has until I get her Np.5, She's the servant that got me into the game and I actually summoned her when I started so she's been with me my whole journey.
Same here mate, I started my main account(a JP account) exactly because of her: it was back when they first released the SSR ticket and there was a rotating banner with a Jalter rate up on it, since she was growing on me a lot as a waifu I rerolled until I got her and then kept that account. She was my first SSR on this account AND the first servant I've grailed(ever), unfortunatly she's still np1 cause every time I tried to get a 2nd copy I failed (I'm ftp btw). I really hope she'll receive an animation update someday but I know that the devs don't care much about her even though she's very popular. Also I'd like that they brought back her summer version like they did with BB or Santa Altera for example because on my main account I don't have her. She's currently sitting at lvl 110, 10/10/10, 2000/2000
Jalter still serving me well from day1
The one buff I hope she gets soon is an AU, her sprite is tiny compared to her zerker form
Back in the day, FGO's Twitter account would constantly be flooded by either "I'm saving for Jalter" or "Justice for Emiya".🤣
The reason I cherish her was due to her being my first Special Class character when I gacha'ed for her rotation banner earlier this year in NA and that she was the first servant that I ever 10/10/10 before Castoria. However, I still lack the aid of Merlin but I currently substituted merlin for Chen Gong's 3 which I maxed out
if you need to get a fight done in three turns or less Top flight one of the best in class but if you have to go longer than that there are significantly better options but God damn can she nuke a health bar I thank all the lovely people back in the day who Grailed her to level 100 because that made my day so much easier I had great AOE damage back in the day with Arthur prototype for most things but she helped with single Target more than anyone else I still want her like badly I want another single Target even though I have miyamoto musashi.
Surprised she still hasn’t received an animation update
Jalter is my first SSR, literally got her when I first met her in Orleans Singularity. Little did I know that I have the best Berserker deleter in the game.
She's the best girl in my heart even if she hates me.
Jalter is still desperately need's the most helpful buff she can get
An animation update
IF THE ENEMY HASN'T BEEN TURNED INTO A PILE OF ASH THEN YOU NEED MORE FIRE
Always now and forever. Jalter is life
I love her. I'm aiming for an np5 koyanskaya for the sole purpose of supporting my np6 Jalter XD
I really like that you spotlighted her in the Shinjuku dress.
Jalter ran so the rest could walk 💯
I really wish she gets something like an NP charge in exchange to not getting the dragon trait attack boost to her charisma skill.
I think Jalter just needs a NP Battery and an ability to make her Dragon Attribute. I mean come on, she was first introduced as the DRAGON Witch or Orleans. Then again, maybe the devs are a bit hesitant to buff her when she just dishes out crits like normal.
I'd like to see her get a Moriarty style buff where she can give her teammates the dragon trait and then buff them by 40% from her charisma
literally any servant with high damage np: tons of damage.
Jalter: "hold my beer"
I'm summoning her for np6 to get my full appends on her. Just got 120 on her too so i'm very happy. Wish me luck gamers
Got np6 Jalter so fully appended. I'm very happy to have fully maxed my waifu
Been wishing for her since I started FGO late 2018. Now a happy NP5 Jalter owner.
Honestly, even at the advent of break bars with all the "Jalter is dead" nonsense, I don't think it was ever true. ST Servants in general are inherently less powerful than AoEs, so she's at an outright disadvantage there for sure, but she always was and still is a hugely powerful option. Buff block on her NP specifically is quite powerful, since it pretty much guarantees to apply on break if a break effect is blockable - I remember running Merlin/Jalter/Jalter against the Ruler fight in LB3, and she basically completely turned them off with buff block and the fight was over without blinking. She definitely could use a little more utility, but other big hitters in her environ - Arjuna Alter, Kintoki Berserker, Chad Orion - are light on utility (or have none at all) and no one holds it against them.
She is substantially weakened in some contexts by the mere existence of Oberon - BG and Oberon gives any Buster Servant access to such a massive damage ceiling that, for single-turn burst, Jalter is mostly unneeded when you can take your pick of ST Buster welfares or other power hitters, borrow an Oberon, and call it a day - maybe throw in a Shakespeare if you're new and need the extra 20%.
So she is a bit redundant, but if the worst thing you can say about someone is "Oberon made them redundant", that's still pretty good praise.
That intro was absolute poetry! ✋😌👌
She still hit hard as hell I'm going for her but when she the only servant on the banner.
I've played since the... I think it was Ryouji Shiki's event rerun? And I finally have the angry chuuni.
Jalter still hits like a fucking truck and is pretty tanky thanks to her neutral class advantage. She is still very much holding her own in the LBs as my go-to boss killer. Jeanne/Jalter/Memelin got me through Demeter with ease and I'm looking forward to soloing Zeus with her.
I managed to get her to NP5 on her last rate up earlier this year, so no need to roll now. Looking forward to Koyanskaya and Oberon next year to up her ability. She can still cut difficult bosses just with Merlin and Waver so to me she's still more than relevant.
Unfortunately all of the Jeanne's seem to get ignored by the devs for buffs. But yeah poor Jeanne alter deserves a skill buff.
This surprise banner threw a wrench in my plans. I have 500 Sq for muramasa but it's now at risk 🥶
Going to wait for her solo rate-up on the 2nd to try to get her to show up 2 more times to make her NP5.
When does banner end?
Thanks for this, CEs is always what I'm wondering about to put on her. What with all the new ones we keep getting.
Just rolled my 5th and 6th copy today, with 1 ticket (5th) and then a 11 multi (6th). Guess she was eager to come home.
Now I just need 3 Grails to 120 and to finish fou printing her quick and an arts card and she's all maxed out ❤
I mean, out of all the servants she is the one with the best doujins in FGO
She obliterated Zeus. And while she can't loop, have you seen how much refund she gets on an arts crit? Woman doesn't really need a battery with those gains.
She's older, but still one of my most beloved servants.
I luck sacked her today, one single ticket off a rainbow and I was so happy
She was always that one servant that kind of tempted me for a while but I never took it seriously or just never took a shot
I guess it was more like I didn’t care but then in the last month some kind of temptation or impulse grew and then she popped up on the banner
I threw a ticket and got her and I honestly like her
She is still great, she just needs a few buffs and hopefully an animation update (and I need to wait for her spiritrom to return)
Yeah I still use Jalter to beat things up, and will keep doing so. I'm waiting until she's a solo rate-up to see if I can get her to NP5 (at NP3). :o
I might roll some on her because.... it's jalter. But gameplsy wise it's hard to justify going hard on a one turn beat stck.
Jalter is the only reason why I'm still trying to pull Merlin(I got Skadi and Castoria in a single 10 pull but apparently Merlin is worth more than 2k SQ)
My Jalter is already NP5 so I'm good
Jalter is #1 in my heart.
Along with Mash, Mordred, Kama and Parvati. I have a big heart.
What i hate, is the fact even till tbis day, she is popular, and even with that, not her or her "big sis" receive a single sprite update, it hurts to see her with that big head, specially with the shinjuku dress
Yesterday I rolled 30SQ on Gil/Ozy, and got my third copy of Gil. Rolled the Jalter/Orion banner today, did a 30SQ, and got my second copy of Jalter on the first summon. I'm done for a while now I think.
Still one of my favorite servants, unfortunately doesn't get as much use.
I ended up using her Berserker self more.
Jalterzerker will always be the superior product in every way, personality, outfit, skills, np
Did I seriously not play during the exact period my number one favorite of all anime medias ( this is no joke ) got a banner ? I want to fucking die ?
She needs an animation update bad 😫
Now we wait for the greatest Avenger....THOR, I mean Ushiwa
Still still my one of my fav. Can’t wait for the np upgrade
My only NP5 5 Star Servant. Not because she is top tier, but only because she is waifu.
Needs kit buffs (charisma buff would probably be the best or make the buster up last 3 turns) and an animation update(along with Jeanne) but I still love her too much
My 1sr ssr in NA since i start fgo in 2018 and saved me on most singularties and my Ace servant during zeus fight.... Not maybe my best waifu or best girl on my ranking but she is best for gameplay.
Silver hair and riding a dragon... she indeed a Targaryen 😂😂😂
all she need right now is an animation update
I YOLO rolled Jeanne Ruler early in my game she carried me through Orleans-America then i Got Avenger Jeanne dragon Momma just in time for Babylon
I never had very good summons for the first year and a half of FGO, no 5*s at all and especially with Jalter.
Avenger Alter is deadly and a few of my friends have NP5 Jalters, but at this point I am happy with Summer Jalter as the closest I'll get.
She never came home for me on release in NA and dumped Siegfried, Stheno, and Marie at my doorstep instead.
She will be forever my one and only pride and joy.
Mines sat at level 100 10/10/10 but I need a second copy. hopefully she comes home again on the new years GSSR if I don't get a new servant. I can't wait for that sweet sweet shinjuku outfit
edit: I got a second copy in three multis. but 15 multis isn't enough for himiko? gacha is a bitch
I disagree with putting her in A+. Nothing in the game has become anti-Jeanne Alter, we get really good buster supports, she got a very good buff, and she has synergy (albeit not as strong) with ALL the Arts supports. Also being able to hit everything in the game hard for the exception of moon cancers makes her valuable to all kinds of accounts. She remains firmly in S, and if they gave her an NP battery she would be a candidate for EX.
I'm fine keeping Jalter at NP2. Especially when she gets her NP buff next year on NA, since it's basically like getting 3 free copies of her for Jalter's old NP5 damage
I got my Jalter at NP2 in a single roll, is one of those moments that you just can't believe until it happens to you, an since then, she have been my single target main for pretty much everything, specially story related, is insane how her crits are sometimes stronger than a quick servant with double scadi, personally, I would still put her in S tier, she is just that strong, and with the coming supports, she will go nuts over the wall
Jeannes loves me i mean jalter came to me without even a slight struggle with a single multi and 2 weeks after that there was class specific banner I pulled on the extra class banner because I wanted salieri and what do you know first multi jeanne d'arc. I didn't try to get jarcher although I'm not sure would I have gotten her?
First unit i got to bond 10 so shes got a special place in my heart!
Wonder if they will ever introduce a type of break bar pierce?
That'd be cool
As someone who admittedly was never a Jalter fanboy. And just saw her as just an okay character. I'd look at her kit and skills even when she first came out and I'd go meh... I always found despite her high attack stat you could almost always do better just bringing class advantage. Her only real big uses that I saw was during some Berserker Raids, or big Berserker boss fights since this was before the big support servant meta, or I guess a Ruler boss. Which was pretty rare admittedly. During this time I considered her honestly to be a B tier SSR. Her S ranking never made sense to me, and it still doesn't. The only thing I could think of, was that she was strong enough to take care of the majority of the original singularities. But even then, a Herc could pretty much do the same.
As for now I'd probably rank her slightly higher than previously. There are more Zerker enemies, and more Rulers to fight against. Her NP Upgrade also helps dish out exceptional damage on the following turn. Potentially refunding her NP, or just doing massive damage. Obviously more supports for her now. She still isn't just game breaking must have, but she's a nice pick up. I'd give her a solid A tier. A full upgrade from my previous ranking. Which is weird since unlike everyone else my initial thoughts on her are quite a bit lower than how hyped up she was.
By the way I do own Jalter. So it's not like I didn't get to test her besides the myriad of level 100 Jalters on my friendslist as well. lol