@@igottouchedatthecinema Exactly. It's when the actors are TRULY on-point and understand their mission better than anyone (even the writer). It's why in ESB (Empire Strikes Back), the director did take after take with "I love you... I love you too", and it didn't work again and again (obviously) until Ford asked if he could try something else. No joke.
So true! I heard Shane Black say in an interview once if the actor does a few takes and it's still not working then the issue is with his writing not the actor's performance
@@TheMathieu2011 Ah, I am not talking about Batista. Its the Rock, who had the silly contract of "I cant die in a movie" so his roles are cookie cutter.
He's leagues above the Rock as an actor. There's never a movie with The Rock that comes out and I say Oh man I really wanna go the the movies to watch it.
Crazy to think The Rock has been in movies since the late 90’s and he’s barely improved. I remember when he was doing promo for that movie Rampage, it was just him recording himself at the gym saying “hey guys go watch my new film” How he’s one of the highest paid actors is baffling
@@Bingo_the_Pug It's because Dwayne is all personality and charm, but he's NEVER vulnerable. Never. Well... there was *slightly* one exception. That was "The Tooth Fairy". And even there, not even Julie Andrews and his supporting cast could get him to go ALL the way with the emotional catharsis. In my opinion, I think he fears it.
I actually aways thought Dwayne Johnson was the best wrestler turned actor but after watching this....this really put things into perspective for me thanks
His best role was Pain and Gain but now he just plays himself in every film so until he changes something and takes acting seriously again Dave and even Cena will be the best Wrestler turned actor.
I have loved Dave since his WWE days and he will awalys be my all time fav wrestler. And when he picked up in movies it was a hit of nostalgia at first to eventually accepting hes a great actor. Although for alot of comments i see theres always a compliment to Dave and a diss to John. Like its always a scale they measure John against Dave. Let me be blunt here, as much as Dave deserves all his achievements and I agree hes become a great actor in his portrayals yet i feel most of the comments here are doing the exact same thing to John as what executive producers and Hollywood did to Bautista: Underestimate him. Go back on each individuals movie career and where it picked up. The rock basically started in 2002 in the movie industry Dave started early around like 2006(i think) but around 2010(when he first left wwe) thats when he had time to hone his craft at acting and picked up when GOtG released. Then John who had movies around 2006 but only started to become more frequent in movies around 2015 so there is a vast time difference that people are dissmissing. The Rock has no excuse for his crappy acting because he had 2 decades to improve. He didnt Bautista greatly improved over 13 years in the movie industry And John 7 years in(while in wwe) has shown some great improvement. Yes not to the standard of Bautista but you cant deny he adds some depth to his characters and its only getting better. So the fact that people dismiss him just because he hasnt made a masterpiece since Peacemaker seems too quick to judge his ability to act especially so early. when he leaves WWE soon and focuses on acting and comes out with actual great performances i wonder how peoples tunes are gonna change because people underestimated him just like Bautista was underestimated. I love Bautista but i am not gonna dismiss John after seeing a few movies where he actually gets laughs genuinely and his characters are convincing enough that you cant deny he played the character well. Just wait and see the improvements come through
The Rock USED to try, but now n days he just plays himself, Cena while he does try, he only has a a couple of specific niches that he can pull of successfully. Batista is alot more well rounded of actor. I'd much rather see a movie with Batista in it, than a movie with either of the former two in it.
It's like when famous people come to WWE and almost everyone of them goes "what can wrestling do for me" - and we all hate them for it - but there's that one Kurt Angle that goes, no "what can I do for wrestling" and thats what Dave is doing. Dave wants to give, whereas Rock and Cena want to take - and we know this and know their roles are super one dimensional and essentially transactional, Dave GIVES.
The tier here is simple. S+ acting skills....BATISTA A+ Cena D at best The Rock. Batista and Cena can run circles around the Rock when it comes to acting and is a shame, when the Rock started he actually try, he might not have a huge successful film that turn the world on fire but he had some roles that show he could act, problem is, he have become a BRAND, and not he is not even allowing people to beat him in a film, what the heck is that for a story teller?, when your character can't be seem as weak, the Rock destroy any chances with that alone to become a real actor, Arnold was never like that as unstoppable some of his role where, Arnold never ask or demand that his character was invincible, some of his best roles like Dutch in Predator or the T-800 where roles that humanize his character by having some limits and weakness, even when he played a damn robot still could be blow up, get torn apart and smack around. Batista totally understand this and he brings a humanity to his roles, even Drax have 10 times the vulnerability and humanity than any character the Rock have ever played had. Batista easily win this, Cena also is very good, but he takes too much crappy jobs, hope he start taking less and look for more prestige roles for himself
You've hit the nail on the head! Great acting requires vulnerability and Bautista isn't afraid to be vulnerable whereas the Rock would never be vulnerable because he thinks it makes him look weak (although ironically Bautista looks much stronger for allowing himself to be vulnerable). And I agree about Cena, he takes on a lot of crap, but I have to admit even in a mediocre straight-to-streaming comedy like Jackpot or Ricky Stanicky Cena brings his A-game and provides a lot of laughs
Bc Dave treats it seriously as a profession. Rock is concerned about always looking good which makes every role he takes the exact same. Cena just wants to be a straight man. Dave pushes and challenges himself - and he's able to pull off performances that top movie stars would kill to have a similar performance.
when the rock played in the game plan the kids movie about a foot player and his daughter he didnt know about, that was a real good movie for him and i havent seen him play a movie like that since. he really felt like the kids father and went from a didnt want a kid dad to i cant live without knowing his daughter is safe dad. it really showed his skills as an actor.
I swear, I think you must have such a fragile ego to have in your contract that you can't lose fights in a fucking movie. Like you are an actor. Who cares if you lose a fight in a movie? It's not even fucking real, you do what the role demands you to do, and that is why a lot of the Rock's roles are literally played the exact same. I loved Batista in Dune and he played his character in an incredible way.
Here's why I think you and everyone else who says Batista is a better actor than The Rock is wrong, you only brought up his action movies forgetting he has done comedies in the past, such as The Game Plan. Another reason I like The Rock more is because he doesn't die in movies and that makes sense. I haven't seen Blade Runner 2049 so I can't say Batista dying in that movie was unnecessary, however I have seen Army of the Dead and agree that Kate Ward should have been the one killed instead. Bushwick is another movie where Batista unfortunately dies before the credits roll and it happened in the stupidest way with him getting shot after opening a baby room door. The only time him dying ever made sense to me was in Avengers Infinity War. Also I don't think it's fair to compare John Cena to either Dwayne Johnson or Batista until he stars in a serious role like the other two have. The closest he's gotten is The Marine and he's been replaced in the leading role twice.
Batista is pretty lousy as an actor, speaks funny, bad delivery and just isn't believable in the role. The rock is the most natural of the three in front of the camera, but his problem is that he plays the same role in each movie, which gets repetitive. John cena is a mixture of both the rock and batista. If i had to rank their performances, it would be 1 peacemaker cena 2 bond villain batista 3 saper norton batista
@@ck8579 brand or not facts are still facts. It's like hulk hogan it was the biggest wrestling in the 80s and 90s. Up to like 2000. So ya. Now is cena better then batista hell ya. Cena is like number 2.
The Rock is the greatest in Hollywood, however Batista is a way better actor. However this acting we not as good in WWE. However it's normal for the guy who paves the way not to be the best, but those who come after him are always better
The Rock can’t convince you that he’s anyone else other than The Rock no matter what movie he’s in. A great actor (i.e. Christian Bale) can play a psychopath, superhero, businessman, and drug dealer seamlessly, a true chameleon. Learn the difference.
Batista has been the lead in quite a few movies 🤣 also being in supporting roles doesnt make him any less of an actor, look at christopher waltz who's made a career of supporting roles
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"why is gomora" was an improve. The guy is the real deal.
I didn't know he improvised that line! Like all the best improvs it's not just a random funny thing, it actually fits the character and the scene
@@igottouchedatthecinema Exactly. It's when the actors are TRULY on-point and understand their mission better than anyone (even the writer).
It's why in ESB (Empire Strikes Back), the director did take after take with "I love you... I love you too", and it didn't work again and again (obviously) until Ford asked if he could try something else. No joke.
So true! I heard Shane Black say in an interview once if the actor does a few takes and it's still not working then the issue is with his writing not the actor's performance
Watched him in Knock in the Cabin.. Dave and the Little girl stole the show..
His drax character sucks and he was ass in 007
@changingthelawsofphysics how so when these are facts lil Jit?
Batista is ready to kiss a shoe if the scene demands it and his manager advises against it.
The Rock will never do that ever.
Absolutely! No way Dwayne would agree to lose a fight to Austin Butler
@@igottouchedatthecinema Having a "No onscreen death" is a sign of " I am a bad actor and can't act shit unless i am winning."
He did in Dune 2 lol
@@TheMathieu2011 Ah, I am not talking about Batista.
Its the Rock, who had the silly contract of "I cant die in a movie" so his roles are cookie cutter.
Yeah I was well surprised when I found out he was the former wrestler in Blade runner 2049. Not seen much else of him, but he was good.
He's leagues above the Rock as an actor. There's never a movie with The Rock that comes out and I say Oh man I really wanna go the the movies to watch it.
Crazy to think The Rock has been in movies since the late 90’s and he’s barely improved. I remember when he was doing promo for that movie Rampage, it was just him recording himself at the gym saying “hey guys go watch my new film” How he’s one of the highest paid actors is baffling
@@Bingo_the_Pug It's because Dwayne is all personality and charm, but he's NEVER vulnerable. Never. Well... there was *slightly* one exception. That was "The Tooth Fairy". And even there, not even Julie Andrews and his supporting cast could get him to go ALL the way with the emotional catharsis. In my opinion, I think he fears it.
“Chiselled faces of the Mount Rushmore of wrestler-turned-actors” hahaha
i don't know; i think johnny boy did pretty well in peacemaker
I agree. John Cena is very underrated and I think he is pretty legit as well. I can't stand the rock
I actually aways thought Dwayne Johnson was the best wrestler turned actor but after watching this....this really put things into perspective for me thanks
His best role was Pain and Gain but now he just plays himself in every film so until he changes something and takes acting seriously again Dave and even Cena will be the best Wrestler turned actor.
@@SlurpyPie What about his performance as Luke Hobbs in "Fast Five?"
Batista is great in acting
Couldn’t agree more
This is a great analysis!
And if the rock let go sometimes like he did in pain and gain that was his best in my opinion
I think John Cena would be great as a bad terminator. Like how Arnold was in T1.
Cena id no where no near Dave’s level
@@cristianvega5235he was great in peacemaker though..
@@cristianvega5235 Cena showed that he has great skill in pacemaker.
Man I never knew dude was this great at acting until I watched bladerunner he’s really good
Drax The Destroyer ⚔️ > Peacemaker peace ✌️ > Black Adam ⚡️
I have loved Dave since his WWE days and he will awalys be my all time fav wrestler. And when he picked up in movies it was a hit of nostalgia at first to eventually accepting hes a great actor. Although for alot of comments i see theres always a compliment to Dave and a diss to John. Like its always a scale they measure John against Dave. Let me be blunt here, as much as Dave deserves all his achievements and I agree hes become a great actor in his portrayals yet i feel most of the comments here are doing the exact same thing to John as what executive producers and Hollywood did to Bautista: Underestimate him.
Go back on each individuals movie career and where it picked up.
The rock basically started in 2002 in the movie industry
Dave started early around like 2006(i think) but around 2010(when he first left wwe) thats when he had time to hone his craft at acting and picked up when GOtG released.
Then John who had movies around 2006 but only started to become more frequent in movies around 2015 so there is a vast time difference that people are dissmissing.
The Rock has no excuse for his crappy acting because he had 2 decades to improve. He didnt
Bautista greatly improved over 13 years in the movie industry
And John 7 years in(while in wwe) has shown some great improvement. Yes not to the standard of Bautista but you cant deny he adds some depth to his characters and its only getting better. So the fact that people dismiss him just because he hasnt made a masterpiece since Peacemaker seems too quick to judge his ability to act especially so early. when he leaves WWE soon and focuses on acting and comes out with actual great performances i wonder how peoples tunes are gonna change because people underestimated him just like Bautista was underestimated. I love Bautista but i am not gonna dismiss John after seeing a few movies where he actually gets laughs genuinely and his characters are convincing enough that you cant deny he played the character well. Just wait and see the improvements come through
The Rock USED to try, but now n days he just plays himself, Cena while he does try, he only has a a couple of specific niches that he can pull of successfully. Batista is alot more well rounded of actor. I'd much rather see a movie with Batista in it, than a movie with either of the former two in it.
frankly batista is better actor than rock n cena
It's like when famous people come to WWE and almost everyone of them goes "what can wrestling do for me" - and we all hate them for it - but there's that one Kurt Angle that goes, no "what can I do for wrestling" and thats what Dave is doing. Dave wants to give, whereas Rock and Cena want to take - and we know this and know their roles are super one dimensional and essentially transactional, Dave GIVES.
Ya the rock may be the biggest star but Batista is definitely The most talented actor out of the 3 of them
Bautista is just far more intelligent and refined as an artist than many people to whom he might be compared. That's just how it is.
Is the best wrestler turn actor till this day
The tier here is simple.
S+ acting skills....BATISTA
A+ Cena
D at best The Rock.
Batista and Cena can run circles around the Rock when it comes to acting and is a shame, when the Rock started he actually try, he might not have a huge successful film that turn the world on fire but he had some roles that show he could act, problem is, he have become a BRAND, and not he is not even allowing people to beat him in a film, what the heck is that for a story teller?, when your character can't be seem as weak, the Rock destroy any chances with that alone to become a real actor, Arnold was never like that as unstoppable some of his role where, Arnold never ask or demand that his character was invincible, some of his best roles like Dutch in Predator or the T-800 where roles that humanize his character by having some limits and weakness, even when he played a damn robot still could be blow up, get torn apart and smack around.
Batista totally understand this and he brings a humanity to his roles, even Drax have 10 times the vulnerability and humanity than any character the Rock have ever played had. Batista easily win this, Cena also is very good, but he takes too much crappy jobs, hope he start taking less and look for more prestige roles for himself
You've hit the nail on the head! Great acting requires vulnerability and Bautista isn't afraid to be vulnerable whereas the Rock would never be vulnerable because he thinks it makes him look weak (although ironically Bautista looks much stronger for allowing himself to be vulnerable). And I agree about Cena, he takes on a lot of crap, but I have to admit even in a mediocre straight-to-streaming comedy like Jackpot or Ricky Stanicky Cena brings his A-game and provides a lot of laughs
Bc Dave treats it seriously as a profession.
Rock is concerned about always looking good which makes every role he takes the exact same.
Cena just wants to be a straight man.
Dave pushes and challenges himself - and he's able to pull off performances that top movie stars would kill to have a similar performance.
when the rock played in the game plan the kids movie about a foot player and his daughter he didnt know about, that was a real good movie for him and i havent seen him play a movie like that since. he really felt like the kids father and went from a didnt want a kid dad to i cant live without knowing his daughter is safe dad. it really showed his skills as an actor.
I really liked The Game Plan and I thought he was great in it! When I watched it as a little kid when it came out he had me tearing up
To Me Its Steve Austin Cuz He was In The Expendables
no hate to John Cena who is equally as good, but Dave constantly steals the scene for me.
Five minutes into Knock At The Cabin and I already like him better than The Rock
2nd is roddy, 3rd is cena
I really liked stuber
obviously,coz dave made better choices - blade runner 2049 , guardians of the galaxy , spectre etc.
Batista it's better acting than wrestling.. and he was a very good one.
I swear, I think you must have such a fragile ego to have in your contract that you can't lose fights in a fucking movie. Like you are an actor. Who cares if you lose a fight in a movie? It's not even fucking real, you do what the role demands you to do, and that is why a lot of the Rock's roles are literally played the exact same. I loved Batista in Dune and he played his character in an incredible way.
Here's why I think you and everyone else who says Batista is a better actor than The Rock is wrong, you only brought up his action movies forgetting he has done comedies in the past, such as The Game Plan. Another reason I like The Rock more is because he doesn't die in movies and that makes sense. I haven't seen Blade Runner 2049 so I can't say Batista dying in that movie was unnecessary, however I have seen Army of the Dead and agree that Kate Ward should have been the one killed instead. Bushwick is another movie where Batista unfortunately dies before the credits roll and it happened in the stupidest way with him getting shot after opening a baby room door. The only time him dying ever made sense to me was in Avengers Infinity War. Also I don't think it's fair to compare John Cena to either Dwayne Johnson or Batista until he stars in a serious role like the other two have. The closest he's gotten is The Marine and he's been replaced in the leading role twice.
I go you one better, Why is batista?😂
Batista is pretty lousy as an actor, speaks funny, bad delivery and just isn't believable in the role. The rock is the most natural of the three in front of the camera, but his problem is that he plays the same role in each movie, which gets repetitive. John cena is a mixture of both the rock and batista. If i had to rank their performances, it would be
1 peacemaker cena
2 bond villain batista
3 saper norton batista
He’s got great delivery watch the GOTG movies.
Batista was garbage in 007 james bond movie
All I got to say is everyone knows the rock.
Yeah the Rock is still the best
Him not loosing fights doesn't make him a worse actor
the rocks acting range resembles his name
@@ck8579 like I said every one knows the rock and is the highest paying actor in the world. So it doesn't matter what you think . Just facts.
@@cooiolhh8955 yea everyone knows the rock isnt a great actor.. just a brand he pushes.. at least cena and batista show range as an actor
@@ck8579 brand or not facts are still facts. It's like hulk hogan it was the biggest wrestling in the 80s and 90s. Up to like 2000. So ya. Now is cena better then batista hell ya. Cena is like number 2.
The Rock is the greatest in Hollywood, however Batista is a way better actor. However this acting we not as good in WWE. However it's normal for the guy who paves the way not to be the best, but those who come after him are always better
Dwayne rock Johnson and John cena are better actors than Dave Bastian
The Rock can’t convince you that he’s anyone else other than The Rock no matter what movie he’s in. A great actor (i.e. Christian Bale) can play a psychopath, superhero, businessman, and drug dealer seamlessly, a true chameleon. Learn the difference.
Nah they aint
Do u even know wat acting is 😂 this video is a joke n there is a reason why he is not a main lead actor
Batista has been the lead in quite a few movies 🤣 also being in supporting roles doesnt make him any less of an actor, look at christopher waltz who's made a career of supporting roles
Can't understand half of what he says ...