the year is 2050, elderly woman Seele refuses to retire.. here is what she has to say "its still my turn" this character is very special to me so i hope you all enjoy the video making videos live: / uwutoshi
@Cuddle_with_Furina that's why I hoard for potential 5 total sub stat roll and 3-5 on a single sub stat roll made relic farming easier for me instantly had equipments once break meta came in.
i didn’t see the video nor know the guy but the comment alone makes me feel pain. Edit: how is he pronounced yanqing properly but not Seele, is it on purpose, isn’t it?
I think a place Seele shines a lot which a lot of people don't notice is PF. She's actually a really good sp battery, and can generate up to +2 SP per turn if you have enemies within kill range. Not to mention her ult could be good at getting rid of priority targets or getting some damage on the elite.
as someone play with ever chance quantum weakness appear you really need 90-100% crit chance with her. if you miss your crit on ult, Sparkle buff become useless, Cant proc resurgence, dmg loss. that why she like a childe for me in genshin.
Yeah very high investment . LC & high crit rate (90% to 100%) + Sparkle + Fu Xuan + Tingyun / Robin . Shame I don't have any if this . Also no she doesn't need eidolon . Nothing change much until E6
@@Fang727 there is certainly a problem with your team because my 50/150 seele does 120-160k in a team with sparkle and tingyun(at least when she crits😭)
Seele biggest nerf is the increase in enemies HP pool. With simple math we can see that: Before 2.0 - normal enemies have 100 HP. If Seele deal less than 100 DMG, her DPS will remain intact. Example - Seele dealt 90 DMG, mean her DPS or (DPT) Damage per Turn is 90 DMG. If she is more invested and deal 110 DMG, she activate her passive and therefore gain an extra turn, effectively double her DPT - 220 DMG per turn. Now, normal enemies have 200 HP, so you have to keep on pushing Seele limits, either by investing in her relics more, or invest a better roaster of supports, in order to match Seele's demanding buff. And if u successfully deal 200 DMG, your effective DPS will instantly turn into 400 DMG per turn. This is like a "All or Nothing" reaction. If Seele was to released in 2.x and have stronger multiplier and base stats that was on pair with the current roaster, her mechanic would outshine even the current strongest DPS namingly Acheron and Firefly. That was a reason why E2 Firefly and E2 Dan Heng IL was so strong and busted, due to the "extra turn" it give, effectively double the DPS.
Overall damage output, even though her multiplyers are low, she can go more than 6 times in a cycle with like 4 ults. She just simply isn't a dmg per screenshot character
@@Yoru... She is a powerhouse if you invested and use her right really. Sadly she won't be like those flashy new toys that just with shizzy relics they can do up to her number of DMG in a cycle (assuming Seele proc her passive).
@@Ionic_Glace that only applies to low investment. Seele is a dps that scales the highest with good relics, which means you will notice the difference between a 70/120 seele and a 80/200 seele way more than a 50/160 jingliu and a 50/250 jingliu. The reason is that her buffs are all DMG% buffs which scales really well the better your character is
@@Yoru... and here lies her massive core problem. If your relic RNG is bad, someting you can not affect at all, her power is lackluster. Sure, you can have her deal massive damage with the right setup and god relics, but the investment and the RNG is so high, you can just build a bunch of other 5 stars characters that will perform on her level with meh relics. And if she gets a slightly better relic set, you can start over again.
Her scream, her laugh, her cough. Seele may never come back to the story, we may never hear Molly in the game with new lines again, but at least we can always tune in to her stream to hear what a maniac she is.
Seele is my favorite designed character in the game and I always make sure to use her to clear as much as possible. Still investing in her to this day.
i love her since HI3 and i truely love the evolution of the design she gain in HSR. I do my best for her even if don't have 4 piece quantum on her (i have 2P QUA 2P ATK), i search best piece and she have realy good stat but unfortunatly i can't clear all content with her and for me like for you i think this is hard. PS: I want to have her LC when it's rerun
I wish I could use my Seele, but she requires way too much investment compared to newer units, which can deal upwards of 300k with simple artifacts and teams
@@ZaiMaiMaibecause of how much the HP of bosses has increased, making use of her talent is near impossible. Sure she’s good in PF but I mean, Herta and Jade exist now so using her in PF seems dumb, no?
@@ZaiMaiMai The problem is having the stats to kill the enemies and have uptime in her talent, if you don't have good relics to give you the stats to kill enemies fast and make good use of her talent, then her talent quickly becomes redundant
i zero cycled argenti in the current moc using seele e0s1 also theres tons of people around it who done it thanks to Eideh seele performs well if your account is vertically invested with e0s1 limited supports
@@Unkowncanyon you can still use her for the other side though? Unless you can somehow use Jade and Herta on both sides, you'll still need two teams for PF
I honestly believe Seele doomposting is wayyy too much. Seele I believe is the best character at high investment due to her being able to 0 cycle every single moc except for the Sunday's song squad moc.
Idk why everyone is pandering to Jing Yuan as the most buffed character, when Seele also has had exceptional synergy with every new support that has came out, perhaps even moreso then Jing Yuan or even any other unit period. She’s probably the dps that has the most variety of teams with every single one of them being strong for different reasons as she works with basically every support (minus maybe super break stuff for obv reasons 🗿). And to those ppl that still think Mono Quantum is still her best team your opinion is invalid bcz respectfully that shit is overrated asf and I’m tired of seeing ppl think that it is somehow Seele’s best team.
Jing Yuan buff's were really impactful, everything Seele got was more of a sidegrade. His best team in 1.0 included two 4 stars because, unlike Seele, it's hard to properly buff him and he requires a lot of specific things that the buffs he received gave him.
ehhh JY didnt get that much buff tho, i would say Himeko. JY even still worse to use in Moc and PF. Himeko with super break now more decent and she great at PF
@@sct77 no it was definitely an upgrade for her. the main issue is that her upgrades just arent enough to keep her competitive with the new DPS. her best team has 4 limited 5* (silver wolf, fu xuan, sparkle, and seele herself), and out of the 3 other members of that team, one is incredibly niche (silver wolf), one is a sustain so it might not be worth pulling for her if you already have 2 good limited 5* sustains (fu xuan), and the other is a good support for a better dps (sparkle, good support for DHIL). meanwhile you have acheron and firefly who can still clear as fast as seele with worse artifacts and doesnt rely on limited 5* as much as seele does
Seele the dps who has been 0 cycling moc / performing at an meta level for the longest without any 5* limited banner supports , eidolons & signature lc
@@hutaohaddab3721 she's been using tingyun , bronya & pela to 0 cycle for damn near every moc since she's been released. are you slow ? ik she's better off with limited supports like sparkle but you just can't pretend like she's never 0 cycled without any limited supports bro ☠️
The best aged character is Himeko tbh, back then everyone was trashing her then Pure Fiction released and she's usually the go to when it comes to clearing it.
I still use Seele, but I’m thinking of throwing her out soon whenever Acheron gets a rerun as I need to get a new DPS because of AVENTURINE. Aventurine boss fight, when I get you Aventurine, when I get you aventurine-
lol yes. Most of the time there is 0 difference in cycle clears btwn E6 and E0 for seele, E4 is the only eidolon that changes anything. She has by far the worst set of eidolons of any limited 5 star
@@TheVengeful0ne yea,well I got into HSR with the hope of getting one of those character E6,cause I had this mindset as long as the character E6 it will not be powercrept that crazy anyway.But yea I fked up and try to fix it with mono Quantum but still doesn't work.I got her SW,Fuxuan and Sparkle....and firefly alone can beat her DMG lol
Lets take the dubs as an example. Seele is spelt zealah in English Seele is spelt Zere in Japanese Seele is spelt ciel in Chinese However, its unknown which pronounciation is correct (to the HSR fandom)
@@luluthewolf9995 As far as I know, "Seele" is the german word for soul, and its pronunciation is very close to "zealah", so the EN dub is the closest one here.
@@ayngrand3212 It's so weird when people say that, 'cause the Japanese vocabulary lacks the sounds to produce the right pronunciation; the "e" in se and the "r" in re sounds like the world "seres" in Spanish which, in my opinion, is even further away from the German pronunciation. I agree that the English one is not right either, though.
Seele was my first limited character I saved and pre farmed for. I still use her to this day, albeit a little less since I got more units, but she's still fun to use. Never going to stop liking her.
I know this is absolutely niche but I really like Jade E1 x Seele. you need a huge amount of investment yes but it's such a fun comp. Also, I've never given up on Seele, she's still my main and I keep using her to this day
No matter how powerful the meta characters every next version, my bestie(Seele) will always be in my heart. I even use her till this day because I was bored of every 5* character I have such as Jingliu, Blade. Ngl both of em are good but they're not like Seele, who can move more than once due to her talent. That caught my attention to her(sry for long type and prob offended yall). Also no sparkle because I still like BronSeele combo❤
it’s funny cause my seele is still able to get like at least a 2-3 cycle clear in moc, as well as getting 30k points in Pf and i haven’t tried her out in apocalyptic shadow but im she she could do something
Im too smol brained and skill issued to play my Seele properly lol shes been benched since 1.3 for lategame stuff.. still like bringing her to normal content every once in a while tho
Hey at least you are honest about your skill issue. it just so happens seele requires a lot of practice to master Still don't get why some people call firefly her successor when her kit is the opposite as seele's
@@glu7019 yeah ill be the first to admit i probably have a severe chronic skill issue and other people would probably easily 0 cycle with the characters i have lol but i do think seele is simply not very good these days (at least for the avg level player) where break is king and firefly performs at double the strength of almost everyone else for a tenth of the investment 🫠
@@glu7019it’s prob bc the massive spd buffs she gets within her kit, but more specifically being the e1 + e2 allowing her to spam atks after breaking or killing with an extra turn, but without the need to spend sp which makes it quite broken
higher numbers isn't everything, Seele has much higher flexibility and her damage isn't locked behind break. You can pretty much do 0 cycles to this day with Seele and she's still the only hunt capable of carrying a Perfect Pure Fiction.
dmg per screenshot doesn’t equal better, Seele can attack up to 6 times per cycle with resurgence and her own speed buff. pair that with action advance characters and she performs better than boothill
I mean they aren't really wrong. Selee have higher Flexibility, but Boothill's team is cheaper, hit just as hard, easier to build, require less investment overall. "Boothill's damage is locked behind break"-No shit he's a break dps lmao, Black Swan&Kafka's Damage is locked behind DoTs
Dhil has a higher single target dmg on his enhanced attack with 500%, yes its blast but the 500 is for the single target still, drawback being it costs 3 ability points
Selee acheron Jingliu Been doing all content with those 3 Selee excels in all 3 endgames Pf? Selee with wind set MOC? Monoquantum or 0cycle with robin and hanabi AS? Monoquantum auto She can clear all content with ease, 5he difference is you actually need to think more when using her Consistely hitting 400-650k with her ult on MoC at e0s1 Shes the most fun character to play and im so happy shes my main since her talent is future proof (they had to put it on e2 for IL and Firefly) and having access to the best dps set too Overall, just needs much more investment but shes totally worth it
@@niigolover I use her with 88/160 for PF ,around 74/234 when Monoquantum auto and 85/220 when doing 0 cycle Since Hanabi is always with her, her LC gives Selee 10 Cr and 28 crit DMG
@@juniorraya1023Honestly is mono quantum really worth it tho outside of AS tho? Isn't the limited 5 star harmony including Robin generally better than SW?
Yeah for near day 1 players who have heavily invested into her she is still good. I literally have enough quantum gear to fully set up 6+ characters. Even my Acheron uses quantum. But I would probably not recommend any newer player to pull for her unless you are a big fan and planning to invest into her for atleast 4-6 months and willing to pull meta support units with E1 and S1. If all of these apply to you then you are gonna have a helluva time with her where you can brute force any content with her. But if you like autoplay and just want to plug in the best dps out there then she isn't what you are looking for.
Imo, her and DHIL are some of the most well aged 1.x limited DPS units, especially with the release of Sparkle. Topaz also aged pretty well but she's more of a sub DPS.
She is like the Jack of all trades but master of none type of character which is really nice. She is universal and i think that alone makes her worth sky rocket.
Man, I really want to see someone upload a meta dps lineup showcase from 1.0 to 2.3 (or further) just so we can witness how the meta gradually change and to see how hoyoverse changed the idea of how to deal damage back then vs now. Really hope to see one someday.
Claiming she has the "hardest hitting single target damaging ability" is crazy and some mega cope ngl. She was doomed from the very start of the game, having to rely on one shotting an HP pool that was only ever going to increase overtime.
The best upgrade for my Seele wpuld be to finally get a decent relic set for her which despite getting her day 1 and farming on and off for it whenever I'm not building other characters I still don't have
My Seele hits atleas 200k ult she was my main until 2.1 When I got Acheron she jist replaced her aoe in general is just good in hsr and Acheron is just crazy good even in low Investment
I thought Resurgence was a follow up attack for an embarassingly long time... I would regularly run Elation Seele in SimU. Still use her for non FuA reasons nowadays, she and Xueyi share the Quantum workload.
A funny thing for me is that I have both Qingque and Seele, and from experience I find using Qingque (Erudition) more suitable against bosses and single target and Seele (The Hunt) for minions.
@@toboooorble Its just to emphasize the irony xD Hunt characters are designed for single target dps while erudition is for multi target, yet they both excel on the opposite situation
Old characters just becomes less interesting, that’s just how it is. Only the hardcore fans would stand by their favourites. I myself have been a hardcore Luocha simp since the day he released, until now in 2.4 I’ve finally given him a break in placement of Huohuo when I spotted that he was now letting my Kafka team down more often than not since the enemy bosses hits harder and his auto-heal just doesn’t come fast enough. (The field still works, but if the enemy moves faster than your own unit, you’re toast. Not to mention, his heal is single-target and he doesn’t provide any other buffs than heals). Again, all of these units are viable. You just have to really try with them if you want them on your team. If you don’t want to stress out about trying to keep your old characters, It’s fine to pick up the new ones. I think that’s also why players become excited for the story, to see their old characters again and hope they get a new, cooler form. I would surely pick up and play Luocha again even if I had to raise him all over from the beginning and he was, idk a destruction unit. I truly hope we’ll revisit places like Belobog and Herta Space Station to get more of the same character, in story and forms. Only Hi3 has been doing this so far, trying to add more battlesuits to old characters while releasing new ones, but as far as I’m aware, Genshin has yet to have alternate forms, so I’m hoping HSR follows Hi3’s format.
I love using Luocha even though he doesn't do anything too crazy compared to other sustains. Everyone in the game is still viable to use, the people who act like a unit is useless now are coping hard lol. I do hope he finds his place in newer teams by 3.x+.
Honestly she kind of aged well a bit she’s good in mono qwuatume and she has good synergy with bronya I wish I had her I know I spelled it wrong y’all don’t have to tell me
I've got some similar stats in terms of spd and atk. Otherwise E0S1 3388 atk 133 spd 78.9 CR 184 CD UID: 700442995 Which achieves 160 spd after skill for 6 stacks on her LC 100% CR with FuXuan & Sparkle (with signature) Seeleland leaderboard considers it top 25ish of 29k comparative e0s1
Her high investment is not even really in terms of relics. Its more interms of how u use her. Seele has the high skill celing un the game so the better u are with usung her kit, the better she is gonna perform.
Seele definitely remains a solid character, however I wouldn't say she is "aging well" as the level of investment she requires is increasing exponentially due to the game's powercree
Don’t think I’ve ever heard Seele’s bame said so much. Lmao was said at least one to 3 times during almost every single sentence. Also never heard it pronounced wrong. So much xD “See-lay”
Seele is such a timeless release. Best dps on release, best dps even right now if played well. Her skill celing is the highest of all dps units but if u can reach that, her performance is unparalleled. She is the only unit to have 1 cost 0 cycles on both Aventurine and Sam and she has the lowest cost 0 cycles on almost every MoC. Furthermore, she has the lowest cost 0 cycles on PF too.
@@therion451 If by "that CC" you mean a certain "best player in the World" then, it seems pretty obvious that he watches their content. What they call "skill ceiling" is just die and retry until you tried every option that seele has ( which is a lot ) resulting in an impressive clear after hours/days/weeks of attempts, and sometimes on private server where they can change their relics/build as they wish. I don't know if they realise that being the only units to 0 cycle with one cost Aventurine ( which I only saw on a private server with near perfect relics and weeks of attempts ) doesn't mean she is the best unit in the game.
I know people dont like using 0 cycles as a metric for meta, however the Hunt archetype is literally the best at it imo. Seele and Ratio are the best at 0 cycles especially when it comes to low gold cost. Seele has the lowest gold cost 0 cycle against sam and aventurine moc 12. Ratio and seele has a 4 gold cost 0 cycle against Aventurine moc 12 while using a 4 star fucking sustain; they both also have a 2 gold cost against aventurine using no sustain which is on par to meta units like firefly, boothill, acheron, etc. Firefly, boothill, and acheron dont have a 0 cycle against aventurine using a sustain at 4 or less gold cost; majority that Ive seen were sustainless. If we talk about endgame meta like 0 cycles or low cycling, then Hunt is literally the best at it especially at low eidolons and without signature lightcones. However, when it comes to the casuals, then yea Hunt is just hard ass to use, and thats why so many people shit on them.
Ngl seeing this video makes me want to use her again since I just stopped using her since I didn't have Sparkle or Fu Xuan, and her damage was really low at most. I hit at least 40k The dilemma of "I told you so" perfectly describes the Star Rail community, and honestly, it gets really annoyed.
Can we talk about the character that unbalanced the meta Acheron, how can I go from liking a character to hating it which is probably her dmg out it was too much but despite others will say there’s no such thing as too much dmg but the upcoming enemies thanks to Acheron will get an insane health buff which it doesn’t fit for a nihility character to have high dmg numbers it will cause upcoming nihility characters kit to get intentionally reduced due to Acheron dmg output
I mean seele also just does less damage then danil, jingliu, acheron, and firefly. Seele at her best versus decent (of the above chars) is comparable of just straight up less dmg
i loved seele ever since hi3 and seeing a expy of her on hsr made my tiny monkee brain go stupid on her. call me downbad by I'm sincere when i say seele was,is and will be my n°1 dps.
They said I was crazy for running full speed E2 seele as xueyi support. To that i say: how often does your xueyi get to swing without any speed investment … still not saying it’s good but it’s funny
For players who like to do fast clears (0 cycle) Seele has been the most consistent & strongest 0 cycler since release, specially for non whales as she also often has the lowest 5 star count 0 cycle clears. Additionally Seele is often the fastest PF clearer (which is once again not preferred by players who would rather use herta/himeko/jade/argenti which is a no prep full point clear) Nonetheless the majority of player base doesn’t care for this kind of clear and would rather use characters that have a fixed team that will always clear in a reasonable cycle count while giving high dmg per screenshot. The “decline” of Seele is just a matter of player bias and preference and not in any way linked to her actual performance related to other characters.
Finally ! A player with a brain !! Many people are just brain rotted with the high dmg per screenshot. They dont think how much a unit moves within a cycle nor do they look at proper 0 cycles. She is definitely by far the best dps in the game if u know how to play her
crap here i am wanting robin now when I skipped for her for FF. Not to be confused but I love FF but I still love my Seele and now I want to get Jade for her to be able to break PF floor 4
2:11 hardest hitting single target damaging ability in the game= 425% ATK Hmm, Jingyuan LL 10 stacks single target dmg 660% atk, Argenti 2 charge ult hitting for 850% atk on a single enemy, IL 3 stack auto attack 500% I'm not nitpicking but Seele dmg really underwhelming even with resurgence buff. Even now the little gamba girl out dmg her with jade LC and ulilize mono quantum better than her with Hanabi who dont really benefit well with Seele cuz of her high speed
Saying she has the hardest hitting single target damaging ability when boothill can hit for 2x harder while having no relics equipped is crazy. This guy is OD on copium.
@@D4C_267 I mean Boothill gotta stack up his pocket trickshot and gotta actually break enemy first to deal dmg. Worst case scenario, a MoC with 2 elite and a boss without summon and physical weakness, boothill can stuggle quite a lot. However, if he manage to get 3 pocket trickshot and break enemy, Seele is nothing compare to him even with no relics equipped. Otherwise both of them deal doodoo dmg
@@D4C_267 depends on the MOC set. With the trottlers now you can stack very fast. But if we have less enemies which you can one-shot/kill fast enough, it might take some time
@@OlexiVRboothill already can oneshot a single mob easily so he can get two stacks quickly than you can just focused on the elite or boss to get the third stack or if there is another mob gof for it for max stacks quickly
Is she really need her sign LC ? My seele has max trace 60 % crit rate and 170 % crit damage with herta store LC (is it good enough investement ? I spend a lot of time to farm for her compared to other Chara) and with her teams : Seele, Sparkle, SW, Fu xuan and of course all E0S0. I dont pull sign LC except for acheron (resulting me skipping aventurine and i kinda regret missing his gameplay 😢). Compared to other dps i got i almost never play seele again in any end game contents, even though i had maybe her best team. People are talking she is still strong maybe they have her sign LC. Again my question does her Sign LC is a must for that level "hyper investment" people talking about? if yes i think she is still less worth on meta then other character that i have with no Sign LC, maybe except blade his damage is mid for now, he almost never get buffed by any new characters even i pulled Jade just for Blade and he still not yet good enough but i still enjoyed his gameplay. Since i skipped boothil for firefly i still want to enjoy strong single target with seele but i never achieve that compared to boothil i saw on TH-cam with maybe similar investment
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The best upgrade for my Seele is accidentally having break effect substats on most of her relics, so I can use them interchangeably with Xueyi 😅
I'm so regret throw all that high break effect substats
@Cuddle_with_Furina that's why I hoard for potential 5 total sub stat roll and 3-5 on a single sub stat roll made relic farming easier for me instantly had equipments once break meta came in.
Seelay? Shingshay? Dan Hang? Fu Zuan? I can't take this anymore
i didn’t see the video nor know the guy but the comment alone makes me feel pain.
Edit: how is he pronounced yanqing properly but not Seele, is it on purpose, isn’t it?
@@jeremywinston1 I think he's just not very smart. I mean some of these names are said in game and he just completely ignores it.
@@noivern4346 to be fair, he might be playing in other languages that aren't english
@@bbysiea True, still don't understand how he can butcher Qingque so bad.
When Dan Hang became Daniel at some point. Twas funny tbh
see-LAY is indeed amazing...
Better than see-Lah
his pronounciation for most characters here is pretty weird ngl
His pronunciation is still better than the way characters pronounced it in game….
Don't forget shing-shay
@@joey-desuI stopped watching him after his first Seele video because he outright says seal (as in the animal)
I think a place Seele shines a lot which a lot of people don't notice is PF. She's actually a really good sp battery, and can generate up to +2 SP per turn if you have enemies within kill range. Not to mention her ult could be good at getting rid of priority targets or getting some damage on the elite.
Yeah her resurgence has been underesrimated too much
opportunity cost is an issue there
She is also a good option with Jade in PF, the only problem would be the hp drain
as someone play with ever chance quantum weakness appear you really need 90-100% crit chance with her. if you miss your crit on ult, Sparkle buff become useless, Cant proc resurgence, dmg loss. that why she like a childe for me in genshin.
who tf is PF?
Thank you! More ppl need to address how her dmg at high investment (and with the right playstyle) is still competitive with the upper echelon DPS.
Also, she can work in her own super break comp too
i have the most broken relics for her (literally 70/220 ratio with 3.1k atk) and the highest she hits in mono quantum is 120k
Yeah very high investment . LC & high crit rate (90% to 100%) + Sparkle + Fu Xuan + Tingyun / Robin . Shame I don't have any if this .
Also no she doesn't need eidolon . Nothing change much until E6
@@Fang727 there is certainly a problem with your team because my 50/150 seele does 120-160k in a team with sparkle and tingyun(at least when she crits😭)
i still main her lol
ah yes seele the goat the character e0s1 who 0cycled every MoC1.0 till 2.3 without any limited eidolons on supports
Shame that today's MoC is catered to AoE or break chars lol
@@glu7019even most of DU blessings have been break eff from my experience
@@mariachi3217 Real x.x
I 0c with her on 2.3 moc as well, i just also used himeko on the team lol...
@@mariachi3217only on the destruction path, the rest mostly stays the same
Seele biggest nerf is the increase in enemies HP pool. With simple math we can see that:
Before 2.0 - normal enemies have 100 HP. If Seele deal less than 100 DMG, her DPS will remain intact. Example - Seele dealt 90 DMG, mean her DPS or (DPT) Damage per Turn is 90 DMG. If she is more invested and deal 110 DMG, she activate her passive and therefore gain an extra turn, effectively double her DPT - 220 DMG per turn.
Now, normal enemies have 200 HP, so you have to keep on pushing Seele limits, either by investing in her relics more, or invest a better roaster of supports, in order to match Seele's demanding buff. And if u successfully deal 200 DMG, your effective DPS will instantly turn into 400 DMG per turn. This is like a "All or Nothing" reaction.
If Seele was to released in 2.x and have stronger multiplier and base stats that was on pair with the current roaster, her mechanic would outshine even the current strongest DPS namingly Acheron and Firefly. That was a reason why E2 Firefly and E2 Dan Heng IL was so strong and busted, due to the "extra turn" it give, effectively double the DPS.
Overall damage output, even though her multiplyers are low, she can go more than 6 times in a cycle with like 4 ults. She just simply isn't a dmg per screenshot character
@@Yoru... She is a powerhouse if you invested and use her right really. Sadly she won't be like those flashy new toys that just with shizzy relics they can do up to her number of DMG in a cycle (assuming Seele proc her passive).
@@Ionic_Glace that only applies to low investment. Seele is a dps that scales the highest with good relics, which means you will notice the difference between a 70/120 seele and a 80/200 seele way more than a 50/160 jingliu and a 50/250 jingliu. The reason is that her buffs are all DMG% buffs which scales really well the better your character is
@@Yoru... and here lies her massive core problem. If your relic RNG is bad, someting you can not affect at all, her power is lackluster. Sure, you can have her deal massive damage with the right setup and god relics, but the investment and the RNG is so high, you can just build a bunch of other 5 stars characters that will perform on her level with meh relics. And if she gets a slightly better relic set, you can start over again.
@@yhormthemidget source that other dps can perform on a High tier seele level on meh relics?
Every time i see seele i always hear molly's voice screaming on the back of my head
Oh god... Her laugh 😂😂😂😂
SHIRLEY
Kamehahaha
Her screams when she lost 50/50 to Gepard is still ringing in my head lmao
Her scream, her laugh, her cough.
Seele may never come back to the story, we may never hear Molly in the game with new lines again, but at least we can always tune in to her stream to hear what a maniac she is.
Seele is my favorite designed character in the game and I always make sure to use her to clear as much as possible. Still investing in her to this day.
Same
Same bro
i love her since HI3 and i truely love the evolution of the design she gain in HSR. I do my best for her even if don't have 4 piece quantum on her (i have 2P QUA 2P ATK), i search best piece and she have realy good stat but unfortunatly i can't clear all content with her and for me like for you i think this is hard.
PS: I want to have her LC when it's rerun
2:10 imagine how strong this was at during launch- 💀💀
I wish I could use my Seele, but she requires way too much investment compared to newer units, which can deal upwards of 300k with simple artifacts and teams
seele isnt about the dmg its about maximizing her resurgence and her low energy cost ultimate
@@ZaiMaiMaibecause of how much the HP of bosses has increased, making use of her talent is near impossible. Sure she’s good in PF but I mean, Herta and Jade exist now so using her in PF seems dumb, no?
@@ZaiMaiMai The problem is having the stats to kill the enemies and have uptime in her talent, if you don't have good relics to give you the stats to kill enemies fast and make good use of her talent, then her talent quickly becomes redundant
i zero cycled argenti in the current moc using seele e0s1 also theres tons of people around it who done it thanks to Eideh seele performs well if your account is vertically invested with e0s1 limited supports
@@Unkowncanyon you can still use her for the other side though? Unless you can somehow use Jade and Herta on both sides, you'll still need two teams for PF
Firefly super break teams is what i thought mono quantum was going to be.
18:47 no crit ult is such a classic move by Seele 😂
seele is my favorite character in hsr, hearing see-lay all throughout this video just hurts....
17:22 The worst feeling ever… Fu Xuan falls under 50% HP with both stacks of her self heal, but she’s stunned
I honestly believe Seele doomposting is wayyy too much. Seele I believe is the best character at high investment due to her being able to 0 cycle every single moc except for the Sunday's song squad moc.
At high investment, every character can 0 cycle. Saying she is "the best character" while we have the likes of acheron and ff running around is wild 🎉
are you mispronoucing the names on purpose? cuz this is wild lol, shiingshey????????
Seelay shingshey fu zuan jing loo
Qing que. As an Asian, the way he pronounced it was acceptable. Qing - Ching or Shing
Que - Shay, is common
imbibitor lunay
Seal 😂
In JP , they pronounce it as Seere
Idk why everyone is pandering to Jing Yuan as the most buffed character, when Seele also has had exceptional synergy with every new support that has came out, perhaps even moreso then Jing Yuan or even any other unit period. She’s probably the dps that has the most variety of teams with every single one of them being strong for different reasons as she works with basically every support (minus maybe super break stuff for obv reasons 🗿). And to those ppl that still think Mono Quantum is still her best team your opinion is invalid bcz respectfully that shit is overrated asf and I’m tired of seeing ppl think that it is somehow Seele’s best team.
The difference is...Jing yuan is pretty good now. Seele is just a more expensive and softer hitting boothill.
NGL, If using E0S0 SW mono Q is not even a decent team.
Jing Yuan buff's were really impactful, everything Seele got was more of a sidegrade. His best team in 1.0 included two 4 stars because, unlike Seele, it's hard to properly buff him and he requires a lot of specific things that the buffs he received gave him.
ehhh JY didnt get that much buff tho, i would say Himeko. JY even still worse to use in Moc and PF. Himeko with super break now more decent and she great at PF
@@sct77 no it was definitely an upgrade for her. the main issue is that her upgrades just arent enough to keep her competitive with the new DPS.
her best team has 4 limited 5* (silver wolf, fu xuan, sparkle, and seele herself), and out of the 3 other members of that team, one is incredibly niche (silver wolf), one is a sustain so it might not be worth pulling for her if you already have 2 good limited 5* sustains (fu xuan), and the other is a good support for a better dps (sparkle, good support for DHIL).
meanwhile you have acheron and firefly who can still clear as fast as seele with worse artifacts and doesnt rely on limited 5* as much as seele does
"See-Lay" I can't watch this
Same bruh
How tf do you make a documentary on a character and you dont even learn how to pronounce their name
Is this a joke
fr how hard can it be
Same LOL
Seal
@@marielcarey4288I’m sayin like 😭😭 did brotha play the game with his ears closed her name was said so many times
Love your videos, but the butchering of names kills me each time ToT
Seele the dps who has been 0 cycling moc / performing at an meta level for the longest without any 5* limited banner supports , eidolons & signature lc
Bro she is not even close to 0 cycling moc without limited supports are you insane
@@hutaohaddab3721 she's been using tingyun , bronya & pela to 0 cycle for damn near every moc since she's been released. are you slow ?
ik she's better off with limited supports like sparkle but you just can't pretend like she's never 0 cycled without any limited supports bro ☠️
Great vid my favorite part is just you calling Dan IL as Daniel. Truly GOATED
The best aged character is Himeko tbh, back then everyone was trashing her then Pure Fiction released and she's usually the go to when it comes to clearing it.
I still use Seele, but I’m thinking of throwing her out soon whenever Acheron gets a rerun as I need to get a new DPS because of AVENTURINE. Aventurine boss fight, when I get you Aventurine, when I get you aventurine-
My goal was to E6 her currently E3 but im changing mind...it just feel not worth it.New unit could easily do her damage without much investment
lol yes. Most of the time there is 0 difference in cycle clears btwn E6 and E0 for seele, E4 is the only eidolon that changes anything. She has by far the worst set of eidolons of any limited 5 star
@@TheVengeful0ne yea,well I got into HSR with the hope of getting one of those character E6,cause I had this mindset as long as the character E6 it will not be powercrept that crazy anyway.But yea I fked up and try to fix it with mono Quantum but still doesn't work.I got her SW,Fuxuan and Sparkle....and firefly alone can beat her DMG lol
@@pmushroom5437 alone is wrong atleast with HTB yes
@@spinylightgaming as in like all her unit is f2p while mono Quantum so hi investment literally took me 1year lol
@@pmushroom5437 mono quantum is just a comfort team not her best team. Best team is just giving her action forward and energy
The game is voice acted just listen to how they say the names 😭 who is seelay and shingshay
Japanese dub doesn’t say it the same way as the dub does
Lets take the dubs as an example.
Seele is spelt zealah in English
Seele is spelt Zere in Japanese
Seele is spelt ciel in Chinese
However, its unknown which pronounciation is correct (to the HSR fandom)
@@luluthewolf9995 As far as I know, "Seele" is the german word for soul, and its pronunciation is very close to "zealah", so the EN dub is the closest one here.
@@GrimoireGiove The japanese pronounciation is way closer than the english one. English can't even get the vowel sounds correctly.
@@ayngrand3212 It's so weird when people say that, 'cause the Japanese vocabulary lacks the sounds to produce the right pronunciation; the "e" in se and the "r" in re sounds like the world "seres" in Spanish which, in my opinion, is even further away from the German pronunciation. I agree that the English one is not right either, though.
Seele was my first limited character I saved and pre farmed for. I still use her to this day, albeit a little less since I got more units, but she's still fun to use. Never going to stop liking her.
I know this is absolutely niche but I really like Jade E1 x Seele. you need a huge amount of investment yes but it's such a fun comp.
Also, I've never given up on Seele, she's still my main and I keep using her to this day
No matter how powerful the meta characters every next version, my bestie(Seele) will always be in my heart. I even use her till this day because I was bored of every 5* character I have such as Jingliu, Blade. Ngl both of em are good but they're not like Seele, who can move more than once due to her talent. That caught my attention to her(sry for long type and prob offended yall). Also no sparkle because I still like BronSeele combo❤
it’s funny cause my seele is still able to get like at least a 2-3 cycle clear in moc, as well as getting 30k points in Pf and i haven’t tried her out in apocalyptic shadow but im she she could do something
What’s your build
@@donew1thita11 i think she’s at like 75 crit rate and 195 crit dmg. i have her sig and e1 plus a e1s1 sparkle.
Im too smol brained and skill issued to play my Seele properly lol shes been benched since 1.3 for lategame stuff.. still like bringing her to normal content every once in a while tho
Hey at least you are honest about your skill issue. it just so happens seele requires a lot of practice to master
Still don't get why some people call firefly her successor when her kit is the opposite as seele's
@@glu7019 yeah ill be the first to admit i probably have a severe chronic skill issue and other people would probably easily 0 cycle with the characters i have lol but i do think seele is simply not very good these days (at least for the avg level player) where break is king and firefly performs at double the strength of almost everyone else for a tenth of the investment 🫠
@@glu7019it’s prob bc the massive spd buffs she gets within her kit, but more specifically being the e1 + e2 allowing her to spam atks after breaking or killing with an extra turn, but without the need to spend sp which makes it quite broken
Ngl this sounds like a clueless guy just reading off a mostly chatgpt generated script, mispronouncing half the words and also using wrong terms.
8:31 wtf do you mean by dan heng il utilize bronya?????? bruh i rarely see anyone using that team comp on 1.3. the sp consumption is too high
SEELEY
Aged well is cope. Boothill hits higher numbers while being 100x easier to build and doesn't have to worry about missing crits.
higher numbers isn't everything, Seele has much higher flexibility and her damage isn't locked behind break. You can pretty much do 0 cycles to this day with Seele and she's still the only hunt capable of carrying a Perfect Pure Fiction.
boothill gooner spotted 🤧
dmg per screenshot doesn’t equal better, Seele can attack up to 6 times per cycle with resurgence and her own speed buff. pair that with action advance characters and she performs better than boothill
I mean they aren't really wrong. Selee have higher Flexibility, but Boothill's team is cheaper, hit just as hard, easier to build, require less investment overall.
"Boothill's damage is locked behind break"-No shit he's a break dps lmao, Black Swan&Kafka's Damage is locked behind DoTs
@@xanaduavici3663 My boothill with mid tier artifacts does better than your uber invested seele and thats facts bro.
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Dhil has a higher single target dmg on his enhanced attack with 500%, yes its blast but the 500 is for the single target still, drawback being it costs 3 ability points
She only gets better with time, just like a fine wine
Selee acheron Jingliu
Been doing all content with those 3
Selee excels in all 3 endgames
Pf? Selee with wind set
MOC? Monoquantum or 0cycle with robin and hanabi
AS? Monoquantum auto
She can clear all content with ease, 5he difference is you actually need to think more when using her
Consistely hitting 400-650k with her ult on MoC at e0s1
Shes the most fun character to play and im so happy shes my main since her talent is future proof (they had to put it on e2 for IL and Firefly) and having access to the best dps set too
Overall, just needs much more investment but shes totally worth it
What's her crit ratio? I really wanna pull her when she comes back
@@niigolover I use her with 88/160 for PF ,around 74/234 when Monoquantum auto and 85/220 when doing 0 cycle
Since Hanabi is always with her, her LC gives Selee 10 Cr and 28 crit DMG
@@juniorraya1023Honestly is mono quantum really worth it tho outside of AS tho? Isn't the limited 5 star harmony including Robin generally better than SW?
Yeah for near day 1 players who have heavily invested into her she is still good. I literally have enough quantum gear to fully set up 6+ characters. Even my Acheron uses quantum. But I would probably not recommend any newer player to pull for her unless you are a big fan and planning to invest into her for atleast 4-6 months and willing to pull meta support units with E1 and S1. If all of these apply to you then you are gonna have a helluva time with her where you can brute force any content with her. But if you like autoplay and just want to plug in the best dps out there then she isn't what you are looking for.
I was lucky enough to give her enough Crit Rate and DMG and also SPD for the full Firmament Frontline set bonus
Imo, her and DHIL are some of the most well aged 1.x limited DPS units, especially with the release of Sparkle. Topaz also aged pretty well but she's more of a sub DPS.
She is like the Jack of all trades but master of none type of character which is really nice. She is universal and i think that alone makes her worth sky rocket.
Might use her once again if I get Sparkle. She's a must have for her nowadays
As a person who kept seele my one single target dps she does struggle but with some adjustments she is still great regardless of high hp enemies
Nah bro, "see-LAY"? That enough internet for today
Man, I really want to see someone upload a meta dps lineup showcase from 1.0 to 2.3 (or further) just so we can witness how the meta gradually change and to see how hoyoverse changed the idea of how to deal damage back then vs now. Really hope to see one someday.
Claiming she has the "hardest hitting single target damaging ability" is crazy and some mega cope ngl. She was doomed from the very start of the game, having to rely on one shotting an HP pool that was only ever going to increase overtime.
It's outrageous to say that when Boothill exists lmao
Honestly, I love Selee and I would still use her today... If only I could ever finish building her. Relic grind is the worst.
Imagine if Seele’s Ult became a multi-hit. Now that’s some Acheron level Ult.
Day 2 player, got Seele, used her ever since. Took quite a while to get good relics but very worth it. Me love her very much.
The best upgrade for my Seele wpuld be to finally get a decent relic set for her which despite getting her day 1 and farming on and off for it whenever I'm not building other characters I still don't have
My Seele hits atleas 200k ult she was my main until 2.1 When I got Acheron she jist replaced her aoe in general is just good in hsr and Acheron is just crazy good even in low Investment
I am so happy my boy jing yuan and seele aged well as i got lucky and got them on theyre release
I thought Resurgence was a follow up attack for an embarassingly long time... I would regularly run Elation Seele in SimU. Still use her for non FuA reasons nowadays, she and Xueyi share the Quantum workload.
A funny thing for me is that I have both Qingque and Seele, and from experience I find using Qingque (Erudition) more suitable against bosses and single target and Seele (The Hunt) for minions.
emphasizing the path makes it look like youre typing for hoyoverse lol
@@toboooorble Its just to emphasize the irony xD Hunt characters are designed for single target dps while erudition is for multi target, yet they both excel on the opposite situation
Old characters just becomes less interesting, that’s just how it is. Only the hardcore fans would stand by their favourites. I myself have been a hardcore Luocha simp since the day he released, until now in 2.4 I’ve finally given him a break in placement of Huohuo when I spotted that he was now letting my Kafka team down more often than not since the enemy bosses hits harder and his auto-heal just doesn’t come fast enough. (The field still works, but if the enemy moves faster than your own unit, you’re toast. Not to mention, his heal is single-target and he doesn’t provide any other buffs than heals).
Again, all of these units are viable. You just have to really try with them if you want them on your team. If you don’t want to stress out about trying to keep your old characters, It’s fine to pick up the new ones.
I think that’s also why players become excited for the story, to see their old characters again and hope they get a new, cooler form. I would surely pick up and play Luocha again even if I had to raise him all over from the beginning and he was, idk a destruction unit.
I truly hope we’ll revisit places like Belobog and Herta Space Station to get more of the same character, in story and forms. Only Hi3 has been doing this so far, trying to add more battlesuits to old characters while releasing new ones, but as far as I’m aware, Genshin has yet to have alternate forms, so I’m hoping HSR follows Hi3’s format.
I love using Luocha even though he doesn't do anything too crazy compared to other sustains. Everyone in the game is still viable to use, the people who act like a unit is useless now are coping hard lol. I do hope he finds his place in newer teams by 3.x+.
Xolze Telos seems to make Seele work still even now, albeit the cracked relics she has
She 0 cycled yanqing with 120 cdm
Worst thing about Seele is when she miss her Crit 💀💀
I had bronya and seele in the beginning made me fall in love with the game
Did you try seele, robin, sparkle and huohuo.
Honestly she kind of aged well a bit she’s good in mono qwuatume and she has good synergy with bronya I wish I had her
I know I spelled it wrong y’all don’t have to tell me
what is high investment for seelie guys, my seelie is 3352 atk, 136 spd, 70:110 crit ratio
I've got some similar stats in terms of spd and atk.
Otherwise
E0S1
3388 atk
133 spd
78.9 CR
184 CD
UID: 700442995
Which achieves 160 spd after skill for 6 stacks on her LC
100% CR with FuXuan & Sparkle (with signature)
Seeleland leaderboard considers it top 25ish of 29k comparative e0s1
Her high investment is not even really in terms of relics. Its more interms of how u use her. Seele has the high skill celing un the game so the better u are with usung her kit, the better she is gonna perform.
The glazing is insane
The time where hunt and eurodition are dps based of aoe or single target until destruction came
Seele was the one carrying me throughout the game b4 Penacony story.
Seele definitely remains a solid character, however I wouldn't say she is "aging well" as the level of investment she requires is increasing exponentially due to the game's powercree
Don’t think I’ve ever heard Seele’s bame said so much. Lmao was said at least one to 3 times during almost every single sentence. Also never heard it pronounced wrong. So much xD
“See-lay”
Showing sparkle icon instead of fuxuan is an editing mistake right?
Seele is such a timeless release. Best dps on release, best dps even right now if played well. Her skill celing is the highest of all dps units but if u can reach that, her performance is unparalleled. She is the only unit to have 1 cost 0 cycles on both Aventurine and Sam and she has the lowest cost 0 cycles on almost every MoC. Furthermore, she has the lowest cost 0 cycles on PF too.
Dont tell me u watch that cc
@@therion451 If by "that CC" you mean a certain "best player in the World" then, it seems pretty obvious that he watches their content.
What they call "skill ceiling" is just die and retry until you tried every option that seele has ( which is a lot ) resulting in an impressive clear after hours/days/weeks of attempts, and sometimes on private server where they can change their relics/build as they wish. I don't know if they realise that being the only units to 0 cycle with one cost Aventurine ( which I only saw on a private server with near perfect relics and weeks of attempts ) doesn't mean she is the best unit in the game.
You can tell the comment section hasn’t played HI3rd cause they are complaining about the way he says Seele
Lmao indeed
IM SOBBING AT DANIELL 😭 ITS OKAY KING TAKE YOUR TIME
As a Seele main I can confirm that even with 86% crit rate (without buff) she can still somehow miss all the crit using her skill 💀
sea-lay i cant 💀
That is the correct spelling.
If you have a good hanya and ruan mei try them with SEE-LAY really strong comp and if your tired of the bronya sparkle comps
I know people dont like using 0 cycles as a metric for meta, however the Hunt archetype is literally the best at it imo.
Seele and Ratio are the best at 0 cycles especially when it comes to low gold cost. Seele has the lowest gold cost 0 cycle against sam and aventurine moc 12. Ratio and seele has a 4 gold cost 0 cycle against Aventurine moc 12 while using a 4 star fucking sustain; they both also have a 2 gold cost against aventurine using no sustain which is on par to meta units like firefly, boothill, acheron, etc. Firefly, boothill, and acheron dont have a 0 cycle against aventurine using a sustain at 4 or less gold cost; majority that Ive seen were sustainless.
If we talk about endgame meta like 0 cycles or low cycling, then Hunt is literally the best at it especially at low eidolons and without signature lightcones. However, when it comes to the casuals, then yea Hunt is just hard ass to use, and thats why so many people shit on them.
Seelr actually has 1 cost 0 cycles against Aventurine and Sam. So, she is actually better than the likes of Acheron and FF.
@@deltaspecies1697ik. I just dont mention it because majority of people hate xolze because she uses private server and unrelateable relics lmao
@@bewitted1169 wait till they realize even with private server "perfect relics" other units cant do what seele can lol
I hate that I still don't have her. Couldn't even grab her on rerun
Ngl seeing this video makes me want to use her again since I just stopped using her since I didn't have Sparkle or Fu Xuan, and her damage was really low at most. I hit at least 40k
The dilemma of "I told you so" perfectly describes the Star Rail community, and honestly, it gets really annoyed.
Seele got buffed with Hanya a lot too, but for a couple of weeks haha
Can we talk about the character that unbalanced the meta Acheron, how can I go from liking a character to hating it which is probably her dmg out it was too much but despite others will say there’s no such thing as too much dmg but the upcoming enemies thanks to Acheron will get an insane health buff which it doesn’t fit for a nihility character to have high dmg numbers it will cause upcoming nihility characters kit to get intentionally reduced due to Acheron dmg output
I lost her light cone both on the original run, and the rerun in the 25% ☠
I've been maining Seele since launch just because of HI3 😭
Zee luh not see lay (also how did your pronunciation of her name start from seel to seelay)
Zee luh is the most incorrect spelling ive ever Heard. Even dżepard for gepard wasnt as hilarious
I agreed with the "See-lay" being annoying aF
I really hated hearing that every 2 seconds smh
I mean seele also just does less damage then danil, jingliu, acheron, and firefly. Seele at her best versus decent (of the above chars) is comparable of just straight up less dmg
Its of topic but i remember i skipped 1.0 for sw. Never regreted that
finally the last piece to mono quantum completed seele's team! until e2 acheron came and stole all her teammates
i loved seele ever since hi3 and seeing a expy of her on hsr made my tiny monkee brain go stupid on her. call me downbad by I'm sincere when i say seele was,is and will be my n°1 dps.
Out here praying on Ruan Mei's downfall fr fr 🙏🙏
They said I was crazy for running full speed E2 seele as xueyi support.
To that i say: how often does your xueyi get to swing without any speed investment
… still not saying it’s good but it’s funny
For players who like to do fast clears (0 cycle) Seele has been the most consistent & strongest 0 cycler since release, specially for non whales as she also often has the lowest 5 star count 0 cycle clears. Additionally Seele is often the fastest PF clearer (which is once again not preferred by players who would rather use herta/himeko/jade/argenti which is a no prep full point clear)
Nonetheless the majority of player base doesn’t care for this kind of clear and would rather use characters that have a fixed team that will always clear in a reasonable cycle count while giving high dmg per screenshot.
The “decline” of Seele is just a matter of player bias and preference and not in any way linked to her actual performance related to other characters.
Finally ! A player with a brain !!
Many people are just brain rotted with the high dmg per screenshot. They dont think how much a unit moves within a cycle nor do they look at proper 0 cycles.
She is definitely by far the best dps in the game if u know how to play her
TBH I only got Seele at launch because of she uses a scythe for a weapon xD
i miss playing her... but she need more investment than the other's sadlly
She was powercrept by E6 QQ as soon as Luocha's banner came around. Pretending she's still good is omega cope.
crap here i am wanting robin now when I skipped for her for FF. Not to be confused but I love FF but I still love my Seele and now I want to get Jade for her to be able to break PF floor 4
Unrelated but it's nice to see someone says something closer to Seele instead of Zeelah, i hate that change in the en dub so much lok
If you can clear any content 3 star with a character then it is a good character.
2:11 hardest hitting single target damaging ability in the game= 425% ATK
Hmm, Jingyuan LL 10 stacks single target dmg 660% atk, Argenti 2 charge ult hitting for 850% atk on a single enemy, IL 3 stack auto attack 500%
I'm not nitpicking but Seele dmg really underwhelming even with resurgence buff. Even now the little gamba girl out dmg her with jade LC and ulilize mono quantum better than her with Hanabi who dont really benefit well with Seele cuz of her high speed
Saying she has the hardest hitting single target damaging ability when boothill can hit for 2x harder while having no relics equipped is crazy. This guy is OD on copium.
@@D4C_267 I mean Boothill gotta stack up his pocket trickshot and gotta actually break enemy first to deal dmg. Worst case scenario, a MoC with 2 elite and a boss without summon and physical weakness, boothill can stuggle quite a lot. However, if he manage to get 3 pocket trickshot and break enemy, Seele is nothing compare to him even with no relics equipped. Otherwise both of them deal doodoo dmg
@@schariacveliona3449 Boothill gets full stacks in 2 turns. Its a non issue.
@@D4C_267 depends on the MOC set. With the trottlers now you can stack very fast. But if we have less enemies which you can one-shot/kill fast enough, it might take some time
@@OlexiVRboothill already can oneshot a single mob easily so he can get two stacks quickly than you can just focused on the elite or boss to get the third stack or if there is another mob gof for it for max stacks quickly
My Seele hasn't crit since 1.0
Is she really need her sign LC ? My seele has max trace 60 % crit rate and 170 % crit damage with herta store LC (is it good enough investement ? I spend a lot of time to farm for her compared to other Chara) and with her teams : Seele, Sparkle, SW, Fu xuan and of course all E0S0. I dont pull sign LC except for acheron (resulting me skipping aventurine and i kinda regret missing his gameplay 😢). Compared to other dps i got i almost never play seele again in any end game contents, even though i had maybe her best team. People are talking she is still strong maybe they have her sign LC. Again my question does her Sign LC is a must for that level "hyper investment" people talking about? if yes i think she is still less worth on meta then other character that i have with no Sign LC, maybe except blade his damage is mid for now, he almost never get buffed by any new characters even i pulled Jade just for Blade and he still not yet good enough but i still enjoyed his gameplay. Since i skipped boothil for firefly i still want to enjoy strong single target with seele but i never achieve that compared to boothil i saw on TH-cam with maybe similar investment
Your critrate just to low ,need 80cr minimum