Firebase vs AWS Amplify
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ส.ค. 2024
- How does 🔥 Firebase compare to ⚡Amplify? Review Google Cloud Platform and Amazon Web Services in terms of pricing, features, and the developer experience 🤔. fireship.io
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I think it's worth updating this video, given the latest updates on both platforms.
1000 percent
When are we getting an update to this?
I find Amplify complicated, it is kind of difficult to get started with it. AWS UI is shit but services are outstanding.
Google makes things easier with the help of nice UI where Amazon doesn't focus more on UI.
Worry no more, aws now make a new console for amplify only
Amazon never gives a fuck about the ui even in their main site!
True
@@migueldomingos4570 They wanna get you emotionally invested in that shitty UI 😄
Soon, you'll realize that you're hooked to the cortisol and keep coming back for more 😂
TBH, I hate Google's UI in their consoles.
It's great that we have more alternative now on RT databases That will put pressure on the firebase team to release more awesome stuff for their platform if they want to stay at the top!!
Thanks, Jeff to bring the info to us in such an exhaustive way and not just reading the specs
Healthy competition makes these products better for us. I think we can count of Firebase to keep pushing the limits.
Would be cool to see you update this seeing both services have changed quite a bit
As always a great video :)
✨You provide the best informative videos out there
I agree with you, he has provided very good information in this video
One thing not covered, that I would really like to see covered is cold-start differences. My understanding is that cold starts take a lot longer on Firebase than Lambdas/Amplify functions
Please elaborate on this.
I appreciate your coverage on this subject!
Hugeee props for using Svelte! And awesome video overall. Thanks a lot!
Love the simplicity of auth in AWS. Love also the Graphql schema api generation. However I prefer Firebase.
Yeah, I'd really like MFA and more customization for Firebase auth.
Firebase is definitely more friendly to developers but it's the limitations in Firestore queries compared to DynamoDB that kills it.
it's optimized for reads..
@@Euquila Optimization shouldn't result in limitations, just imo
great video, very informative :) Honestly, i thought you're going to be biased about this, but i'm wrong, very professional :)
Top video. I have some heavy experience with amplify. I am not a fan of the cli. The SDK is brilliant. But the cli bootstraps infrastructure and code together.
Like for example. Setting up auth the quick way in the cli enforces sms codes? To get rid of that you have to destroy it and rebuild. Theres also a massive risk in editing their generated infrastructure (cloudformation).
In terms of appsync to dynamo. I have just removed appsync all together. I just use aws document client to connect to dynamo with the auth credentials from amplify/cognito.
To tldr it. We use amplifies sdk. Dynamo and lambda. The analytics are great too and quick to implement.
Its interesting on push notifications to. I actually have firebase launching them instead of aws. But i store the push notification acceptance code in dynamo.
I would rate the sdk much better than the cli. The cli i would say provides more minimum flexibility.
It gets the resources up there. But all those manual changes after? Not stored anywhere so your disaster recover becomes a bit more tedious
Catch me on slack if you want more info ;)
Hey, I'm building a PWA with Amplify and Appsync, I'm fairly new to all this stuff, some tips would be great. I was directed to an example survey pwa on AWS so I cloned the repo and followed all the steps and got it set up. So I'm wondering now should I strip it down and build up my own app using it as a base or start from scratch with a new amplify project, thank you!
Amplify is more difficult to start with but once you get used to it, you will love the flexibility.
AWS requires card to set up though :(
this comment should be pinned. Firebase will not ask ANYTHING even if you blow up your free quota. AWS charges you without notice
Good call, forgot about that as I've had a paid AWS acct for a long time.
Yeah, it's not a big deal as if you are seriously looking for a platform it's not a bad requirement. But for me and probably a lot of viewers of this channel who are hobbyists who just want to try it out, it's not a platform to make offhand concepts.
You get all those solutions and you want for free really, bet if I ask you for some classes you'll charge me
Mighty L'Insomniak no lmao
Great video! I build IoT solutions hosted on S3 with a serverless backend. Although accessing data may be more expensive in terms of adding big data it feels like the ease of use with Kinesis Analytics was the selling point for me. I feel like I needed to learn GraphQL anyway.. My vote goes to Amplify.
Very interesting! I've been working a lot in AWS lately, but I like Firebase, it was neat seeing a comparison of the too. Another thought on the to-do demo is instead of using the GraphQL API, you could use the REST API and setup a todos end point. At that point you would have to write a lambda for the end point, to GET and POST the data to the dynamoDB (that's the easy part). The tricky part would be the real time aspect. My first thoughts is to use web sockets and have the svelte client connect to another API end point to do that. The nice thing about DynamoDB is you could have the DynamoDB stream connect directly to a lambda. So every update to the DB will trigger the lambda that can emit a broadcast to all the connected clients.
Would that be simpler then GraphQL? I dunno, but it's another way to do it if you don't like the complexity of GraphQL and subscriptions. If you don't have the requirement of real time then it's way easy.
That is an interesting thought. A websockets implementation could def get the job done, but the Apollo client is nice because it can also handle optimistic updates and caching easily.
Top in this. Ive done sockets in serverless using dynamos downstream service. This replicates the effect. But each open stream costs more on the socket gateway. It can accrue over time very quickly. For the realtime data update apollo is far more superior.
You also have to manage user channels potentially too. It becomes logistical nightmare
What I ended up doing in one of my projects is use the best of both worlds. Firebase is really good for interacting with the user interface so created read model that uses firestore and users can only ever perform reads from the Firebase backend. Then in AWS I implemented lambda functions for the API that is secured by cognito authentication. The main reason as to why I picked AWS was due to fact that I was suppose to implement a data pipeline whereby multiple lambda functions will communicate with one another via message queues (SQS) and update data in DyanmoDB. Since AWS has a good feature called DynamoDB streams I was able to attach lambda functions that listen to record updates in the database and update the read model which is essentially updating firebases firestore. With this done I was able to use realtime functionality of firebase but with a data processing backend in AWS. This basically was inspired by the CQRS pattern martinfowler.com/bliki/CQRS.html. No Appolo was used in this by the way. Other thing you will need to consider is using authentication user token in firebase in order order to integrate cognito and firebase auth users
Incredibly concise but still super clear and informative. Thanks!!!
Thanks a ton! Very helpful for my upcoming project. I love the dev community on the internet
You have to add the API-gateway (bridge between the client http call, websocket...) cost if you create a serverless API with AWS. So the cost per function is much more : 0.2 per million for lambda call + other lambda function cost + 1.2$ per million call (slightly more or less depending on the AWS region).
Man I love your videos. I especially like all the movie cuts for humor. I watched most of them on first release. It makes watching programming stuff (which is dry by nature - no pun).. much much better. You've been to the rodeo and I appreciate your content and your rationale based on experience. Thank you!
Hey, it would be great if you could create an up to date video, also showing other capabilities of each platform :)
Really nice video. Congrats 👏🏼👏🏼
Thanks so much for the video, Jeff 💜
Perfect video - thanks!!!
This helps a lot in me deciding my path !!!
Great comparison. Are you considering making a course on amplify? I'd love to see that. I personally use firebase, but we're implementing Amplify in our project at work.
Great comparison 👍. I used to use aws but have recently switched to Firebase and everything is much simpler 🤓
Love the movie snippets. Haha. Awesome research. I had dabbled with both and favored Firebase more of the time because its easier to set up.
Awesome, thanks for the feedback 👍
For some weird reason, I can't stand other tech videos, but I love watching yours. Great work!
Such a good comparison about those giant platform that provide a service for a common problem that developers face. Thanks!
How easy is local development? If you have a bad internet connection or are on a plane without internet is it possible to develop?
Great comparison for the basics, thanks a lot!
That's super extensive research and comparison. Wow just wow!
oh fs. I use firebase with vuex and have buttons to refresh the store. Didn't know I could create a livelink :( Would love a video on what firebase classes as reads while setup as a live link.
Amplify pros:
- super easy user authentication out of the box
- good documentation for all platforms (web, vue, react, ios, etc)
Amplify cons:
- DynamoDB was built for massive quantities of data so the relational model is proprietary and confusing
- You can't get away with only using "Amplify".. you'll have to use other AWS services
I dropped Amplify on my latest project and am so much happier back with Firebase. What Firebase does better than Amplify is its ability to totally abstract itself from the mothership (aka Google Cloud, and AWS for Amplify). You can go start to finish without leaving Firebase on your project. If you use Amplify, chances are you're going to need to branch into the overwhelming AWS-land.
great video!
despite people from comments are arguing AWS is hard to use, I think AWS amplify cool. Docs are really well explained, and I agree that UI is not that friendly.
do you recommend me any getting started video or course of firebase ? I'm struggling a lot with their docs.
cheers mate!
Request a video on AWS Amplify, specifically the Data store GraphQL API and Security rules. I've tried Firebase, it's definitely more developer-friendly than AWS Amplify. But for complex fin-saas applications, AWS Amplify takes the cake thanks to its relational data modelling and flexibility.
Thanks so much. Excellent pace, detail, demo and opinion.
Just finished a firebase project, did well. Now off to build one with amplify.
Nice to see you use Svelte! Helpful comparison.
I have 2 questions:
1. How you plan your content?
2. How you remember multiple platforms code?
I’ve learn a lot! Keep making more videos like this.
Pricing comparison is interesting, thanks.
thanks jeff, is a great topic to share
What if we have some big custom logic/algorithm that needs to be run on the backend? How will we do that in Firebase or AWS Amplify?
Very neat and clear explanation, good job.
Please we need an updated video with this comparison, thanks.
What a very specific and explicit explanation ever!!!
I believe Amplify also provides a way to listen for the user's auth status.
Finally compettition, google will have to improve firebase to not lose for amazon.
super awesome video! which is better for REACT Native ? could you do a follow-up video on that? :D
Just out of curiosity, what is Microsoft's version of Firebase/Amplify? Do they have a platform on Azure for this?
Can you please make a video comparing Amplify to Laravel Vapor both using AWS? Great comparison. Thankyou!
Which one seems easier to use?
Hi
can someone explain..
do we not need graphql with firestore?
is there a use case to use graphql with firebase/firestore?
or only with AWS amplify?
thank you so much!!
Great comparison, thanks 👍
God I wish Firebase allowed for a relational db 😞
Do we have something like this on Microsoft Azure?
Thanks for the video, fire-base best to use for flutter apps, and conducting A/B testing. Please do a video on aggregated document on firestore when developing with flutter. If you already have such video please share link.
I looked at amplify recently but I got lost in the docs, I feel that the docs for firebase to be pretty much straightforward.
Thank you for the nice video!
In terms of pricing, Firebase is $0.6 read/ $1.8 write per one million query ?
It seems that pricing of Firebase is based on 100,000.
Is it smart to build on Amplify and then migrate to custom Auth Modules(Instead of Cognito or App Sync) and Custom Dynamo DB interaction?
That way we can mitigate the disadvantage of AWS Amplify and stay for long after scale!
Can we use Firebase/AWS amplify exclusive on server? without shipping any of these to browsers for say a web project? Does this has any limitaions?
Overall, how limiting do you think Firestore is compared to GraphQL/dynamo db. Do you think the limitations of Firestore do not affect the majority of apps and only a few percentage of applications will need the flexibility found in GraphQL? Thanks
Firestore is actually more flexible then DynamoDB for data modeling imo, but GraphQL can use ANY data source. If you hit the limitations of NoSQL, you can drop in a graph database or full-text search engine and still use the same realtime SDK.
@@Fireship Ah I see thank you!
Thank you for the detailed explanation
Nice content...and the arnold references are hilarious.
i likedd the video as soon as i saw svelte 3
Do you have to use Graphql with Amplify to get realtime?
havent used amplify yet, but competition is always welcomed. whats the 3rd best option?
I would probably say MongoDB Stitch www.mongodb.com/cloud/stitch
Would you be interested in comparing Firebase to GunDB?
You read your messages!!! thanks!
Yes, I do. That's the main way I figure out what to create.
Currently weighing these two options up against each other. How do you read my mind with your video topics!??????
Community feedback & suggestions are what drive the content on this channel :)
Fireship the coincidence this time was honestly uncanny though. You are on the ball. Keep it up!
Personal request: a deep dive into some tips/tricks to improve performance and reduce costs on Firebase or Amplify.
I know you’ve touched these topics before but would be awesome to see you revisit this topic as many of your viewers are building apps on these services on a tight budget
its time for a refresh on this video! I bet amplify matured, and firebase has new features as well.
Friggin awesome and great job. Thank you!!
This is really good content thanks!
Does GraphQL require a "rigid" schema, that is, If I want to retrieve documents with some variations in the attributes in the same collection, can I read/write them with GraphQL, even when they don't match completely the schema in graphQL file?
what font is the titles in like "Features"??
It's good for us that amplify is available, good set of options and competition is good for everyone.
Can you do an update on this? Trying to decide on Firestore or amplify with graphql.
I use both, depends on the app and the customer, Firebase has improved a lot these days tho
Great. Thanks so much!
Did you have to get a copyright license to use footage and snapshots from movies like "the terminator"
If so, how did you?
I need this info for a project that I am doing.
Do more AWS content! :D
Pretty please?
I love the Arnie clips.
Is there any equivalent to these from Azure?
I use Amplify the reverse way. I first create the backend resources in AWS, then configure the Amplify SDK in the app to use the existing backend. This way I feel more confident.
Random question: would you say that using wordpress as an app backend infrastructure is a good idea (since it has a REST-api now)?
Google sheet is the best no cost option
AWS now have Lambda URLs. So they have the 'callable functions' base covered.
13:29 "Now I probably wouldn't build an app like this in the real world..."
...because? 🤔
Anthony because it gets very complicated
Thank you very much. Awesome video.
I love AWS, but Amplify & Cognito are not your best choice if you are looking to avoid the complexities of setting up user authorization. Which seems to be the point of using solutions like Amplify or Firebase in the first place. I lost hours and hours of developer time trying to get it to work. The difference in speed & complexity for setup are confirmed by this video, Firebase seems so much easier to get going compared to the Amplify/GraphQL steps showed during comparison near end of video.
is svelte native / native script available in any of the platforms ?
Didn't know anyone uses nativescript.
Great video, keep it up!
Still glad that react is everywhere 😌
arnold schwarzenegger in the video rocks
Firebase lets you attach a snapshot to a filtered collection, for example
.firestore()
.collection("collection")
.where("user", "==", user.email)
.onSnapshot(...)
What would the equivalent be on amplify? As far as I can tell, your graphql subscription listens for all todo's, what if you wanted to only listen to those owned by a specific user?
You would specify which todos you want in the query, then subscribe to that.
Waiting on that updated video
U forgot one meme: "Not bad, not bad, now you.." xD
Haha this would be good
Not a bad idea for a future video
FaunaDB also is a good option
Long time Svelte user here. I'm curious about your difficulty w/ Svelte and Rollup. Rollup is all I use w/ Svelte.
Its an issue with the way aws is packaged, nothing to do with svelte. Try buliding amplify in a vanilla svelte project to see what I mean.
@@Fireship dev.to/swyx/making-aws-amplify-work-with-rollup-2d9m