I grew up in the neighborhood that bordered between Black ghetto area and Chinese ghetto area in New York during early 2000s. As a Korean American, I didnt gain any protection from Chinese gang elements because I wasnt them. The Black gang elements thought I was Chinese, so they let their animosity loose on me. I was jumped at least 3~5 times in the span of a year, and "robbed" countless times although there wasnt any weapon present, but implied threat of violence was always there. So, when I hear these upper middle to upper class film making graduates complain about the racism, its really tiresome to hear. Especially, the "racism" they are complaining about is some side eye glance they got at a grocery store, or perceived to be pass over for a promotion. Unless you got beat up for being Asian, please do not talk about Asian hate, I dont have patience to indulge in your privileged tantrum.
I was assistant director to a few well established film festivals in the New York City area. The sheer amount of politics that goes into not just what gets selected but also who wins is insane. Happy I left that world.
@@rafterscott indeed. I have in the past seen it as a donation to the festival, which I know usually run on the thinnest of margins. But, I've been taking a short on the circuit, and I've noticed a lot of politics this year
@@rafterscott If you even get that, I submitted to a lot of festivals a couple of years back and didn't get in, and didn't get any letters. Going forward, I doubt I would go anywhere near the festival circuit, not in it's current iteration at least.
Its really no wonder I watch, maybe, one fifth of the amount of films I watched 5-10 years ago. I simply cant stand this industry anymore. I dont want anything to do with these people.
My first films in theatre were Chariots of Fire and The Jerk. I can't believe how boring and pathetic big budget films are now. You can put millions in CGI on a pig but it's still a TV movie of the week.
Remember when our heroes on the screen showed us how to pick up our selves and use our "trauma" to strengthen our selves and our understanding of the world. Unlike now a days where most movies show us that we should use our disadvantages to victimise our selves and expect the world to change to our standards instead of learning to navigate the world as it actually is so we can adapt and survive.
Chinese Revolution, “struggle sessions”-over one million land owners murdered, Mao’s Great Leap Forward-30-45 million dead, many starved or executed, the Cultural Revolution, Uyghur genocide, the current colonization of Africa by China…
I ran a festival for a couple of years, I gave up because the quality of films were becoming more about being "woke " than about quality and I had people ( who had never made a film in their life) "advising me on what "kind" of film the festival should have been selecting.
This is why I love Film Threat and how you've democratized press for indie filmmakers. I've had two short films (Lonely Hearts & DOORS) favorably reviewed by Alan and yet they got rejected from the major festivals but we got into a lot of smaller ones where we were introduced to so many folks who we work with today. It's crazy because I always thought my films were good and could stand beside some of the other shorts in major fests but they didn't really have an agenda. I just wanted to make good movies that anyone could love. Still do. Anyways, I love you guys and you all have given me some great quotes for press blurbs. The end.
Thanks Chris. My dad was from Dublin and Irish people not only were enslaved then but appear to be treated as the test subjects for Europe now. Pisses me off big time.
The funny thing is, if the blame is going to be placed on generic White for whatever type casting or studio shenanigans were going on back in the day, should we turn around and blame "Asians" in the same way for the kind of nationalistic tantrums Mainlanders pull when talking about their country? Or the attitudes folks from K-Town can have when it comes to who they choose to work with? How about the arrogant ignorance some have of the actual historical culture that built and maintained the foundations that they now benefit from. I'm pretty sure it's not customary from any of these countries to tolerate someone sh*tting all over the nation that takes you and your family in. It just showcases and excuses the very thing festivals like this cry over when they're the ones indulging in it.
"And listening to all this, part of me was going... When did we as Asians become so weak?" Alan gets me. Just because the agenda offers a slot for us to become victims doesn't mean we have to take it. You don't _have_ to cash that victimhood check. And you don't need to do it to fit in.
"(When making Attack of the Doc) ...My movie's not a festival movie. I would have to have put something in about women being oppressed or something... I feel like what that does is weaken you... if someone's trying to bully you or troll you, giving them any oxygen makes them win." Chris is 3 for 3. The man keeps spotting the agenda and all he's doing is reviewing movies.
@@basementbrotherscollectibles no they won't, they have a gigantic back catalogue to mine for eternity. Until the public stops watching the classics AND the new stuff, they will keep on doing what they do now.
It’s the same way with gay-themed movies. I love older gay movies, but I watched one several years ago now in which a teenager started lecturing his mother on feminism and the patriarchy. And now that’s the norm. So I no longer watch current gay movies.
I want to see films to be entertained and get my mind off the real world, not be lectured about how awful I am. I haven't been to a theater in more than 5 years now.
Asians don't appear as frequently in American films but to be fair there are massive Asian exclusive film industries all over the world. Half the shows on Netflix are Korean, almost all animation is Japanese and Hong Kong action films have dominated the global box office for decades. Also Asian Americans don't scream and cry if they are not in 100% of all media at all times like a certain other ethnic demographic.
As a British-Asian for a time I enjoyed films about Asian life but is that all these Asian Filmmakers can do? I wanna see more Asian Filmmakers make Sci-Fi, Horror and especially Fantasy there are rich mythologies & legends to draw inspiration from all over Asia
Did any of the documentaries look at Japan's attempted colonization of China from 1937-45? Or China's occupation of Tibet? What am I saying? Of course they didn't. Such topics would be inconvenient to the narrative.
Hong Kong peodiced great film for years. Where has alan been. The first film i saw as a child, in jamaica was a kung fu film in 1977. Not a single white person in it. Some of my favorite actors growing were not white. Some from hong kong some born in the u.s.
Seek a glimpse into the fantastic: truth will sing to you; ...or not . Seek a glimpse into the mundane: you will wade in the ( tepid if not toxic ) whirlpool of regression where very few can swim: Forcibly tell people you ARE the fantastic , then they might notice the sky is blue and changes color not at a whim or a whimper, but at the anvil of reality
u guys are awesome. I can't help but notice that Alan is still seduced by identity politics. a little bit anyway. but atleast he defends that it's gone too far.
@Film Threat thanks for the reply Alan!! 🙌🙏. respect. but yeah anyway. I found a quote from Joe Rogan just then where he says "I hate identity politics with a passion, I really do, it's so stupid". and i totally agree lol. here's the perfect filter I've come up with. ready? if you swap it around and put white people then say it again, if it then sounds cringe. then you'll see where I'm coming from ! it's literally the perfect filter. if people are traumatised by any past rac1sm then you just have to let it go. no point holding on
@Basement Brothers Collectibles I'm half way thru an excellent series called Alice in Borderland. so good! (and I'm not even represented on the screen lol)
Great clip, but disheartening. As a filmmaker in production with a narrative short, these observations about the ideological bent to so many film festival juries, is frustrating. Could my non-woke film be dead on arrival? 😢
We may look back and find these anti-rascist reactions totally appropriate. Recognizing others suffering should increase our empathy. Chris, slavery shaped our entire society and will always be a major story. If everybody has suffered like you, it might be good to have stories from other cultures showing the human will to live to compare your own relationship to your own will. Isn't seeing into a very different person's life by a good cinematographer more interesting than another stereotypical rom-com where nonwhites are just work friends/love helper?
So what all this be to say don't even bother trying to get into a festival if you've not got something that's incredibly woke? If I guess that kind of rules me out for being any Festival cuz I don't even know how to do awoke film they cannot logically make sense to me. Therefore I do not make them ever.
I dunno bro, you’re 6 percent of the population, I think your extremely well represented in American cinema. In fact, pretty much all the races (18% black, 12% Hispanic I think) including Asians get a way bigger part of the representation than you actually deserve.
I grew up in the neighborhood that bordered between Black ghetto area and Chinese ghetto area in New York during early 2000s. As a Korean American, I didnt gain any protection from Chinese gang elements because I wasnt them. The Black gang elements thought I was Chinese, so they let their animosity loose on me. I was jumped at least 3~5 times in the span of a year, and "robbed" countless times although there wasnt any weapon present, but implied threat of violence was always there. So, when I hear these upper middle to upper class film making graduates complain about the racism, its really tiresome to hear. Especially, the "racism" they are complaining about is some side eye glance they got at a grocery store, or perceived to be pass over for a promotion. Unless you got beat up for being Asian, please do not talk about Asian hate, I dont have patience to indulge in your privileged tantrum.
I was assistant director to a few well established film festivals in the New York City area. The sheer amount of politics that goes into not just what gets selected but also who wins is insane.
Happy I left that world.
It's disheartening as a filmmaker
@@HamishDownie It absolutely is. That and dropping 60 bucks for every festival you submit to just to get a rejection letter.
@@rafterscott indeed. I have in the past seen it as a donation to the festival, which I know usually run on the thinnest of margins. But, I've been taking a short on the circuit, and I've noticed a lot of politics this year
@@HamishDownie I don't even think I wanna submit my first film into a festival lol
@@rafterscott If you even get that, I submitted to a lot of festivals a couple of years back and didn't get in, and didn't get any letters. Going forward, I doubt I would go anywhere near the festival circuit, not in it's current iteration at least.
Its really no wonder I watch, maybe, one fifth of the amount of films I watched 5-10 years ago. I simply cant stand this industry anymore. I dont want anything to do with these people.
I am running out of motivation to watch anything these days
My first films in theatre were Chariots of Fire and The Jerk. I can't believe how boring and pathetic big budget films are now. You can put millions in CGI on a pig but it's still a TV movie of the week.
As a Filipino, I hate to see our people contribute to this victims mentality.
Bruh, we do it domestically too since we're a liberal country but adapting that entitledmentality from documentaries like 20 ft from Stardom is gross.
@little bee yeah looking at the r/Phillipines subreddit, my God it's literally r/Politics but Filipino edition
Activists: The USA colonized the Philippines!
Spain: Phew! We are off the hook!
Japan is happy that what it did in China from 1937-45 is being conveniently ignored. Or what China did to its own people at Tiananmen Square.
Remember when our heroes on the screen showed us how to pick up our selves and use our "trauma" to strengthen our selves and our understanding of the world.
Unlike now a days where most movies show us that we should use our disadvantages to victimise our selves and expect the world to change to our standards instead of learning to navigate the world as it actually is so we can adapt and survive.
“You guys did some horrible things” could be applied to every race.
Chinese Revolution, “struggle sessions”-over one million land owners murdered, Mao’s Great Leap Forward-30-45 million dead, many starved or executed, the Cultural Revolution, Uyghur genocide, the current colonization of Africa by China…
@@basementbrotherscollectibles Or what Japan did to China from 1937-45. Nasty, brutal stuff.
Welcome to the club,Alan..That's the only type of movies Hollywood wants to produce about us,like,that's all we have.
I ran a festival for a couple of years, I gave up because the quality of films were becoming more about being "woke " than about quality and I had people ( who had never made a film in their life) "advising me on what "kind" of film the festival should have been selecting.
This is why I love Film Threat and how you've democratized press for indie filmmakers. I've had two short films (Lonely Hearts & DOORS) favorably reviewed by Alan and yet they got rejected from the major festivals but we got into a lot of smaller ones where we were introduced to so many folks who we work with today. It's crazy because I always thought my films were good and could stand beside some of the other shorts in major fests but they didn't really have an agenda. I just wanted to make good movies that anyone could love. Still do. Anyways, I love you guys and you all have given me some great quotes for press blurbs. The end.
Thanks Chris. My dad was from Dublin and Irish people not only were enslaved then but appear to be treated as the test subjects for Europe now. Pisses me off big time.
The funny thing is, if the blame is going to be placed on generic White for whatever type casting or studio shenanigans were going on back in the day, should we turn around and blame "Asians" in the same way for the kind of nationalistic tantrums Mainlanders pull when talking about their country? Or the attitudes folks from K-Town can have when it comes to who they choose to work with? How about the arrogant ignorance some have of the actual historical culture that built and maintained the foundations that they now benefit from. I'm pretty sure it's not customary from any of these countries to tolerate someone sh*tting all over the nation that takes you and your family in.
It just showcases and excuses the very thing festivals like this cry over when they're the ones indulging in it.
"And listening to all this, part of me was going... When did we as Asians become so weak?"
Alan gets me. Just because the agenda offers a slot for us to become victims doesn't mean we have to take it. You don't _have_ to cash that victimhood check. And you don't need to do it to fit in.
The generation in charge of movies now IS THE WORST!! I miss the 80’s
The good ones are being gatekept out by the woke.
A Frickin Ikea chair!!!😮😮😮
"(When making Attack of the Doc) ...My movie's not a festival movie. I would have to have put something in about women being oppressed or something... I feel like what that does is weaken you... if someone's trying to bully you or troll you, giving them any oxygen makes them win."
Chris is 3 for 3. The man keeps spotting the agenda and all he's doing is reviewing movies.
As long as ESG scores are mandatory in California, the woke era is never going to end.
They will go bankrupt.
Decentralization of entertainment continues.
@@basementbrotherscollectibles no they won't, they have a gigantic back catalogue to mine for eternity. Until the public stops watching the classics AND the new stuff, they will keep on doing what they do now.
It’s the same way with gay-themed movies. I love older gay movies, but I watched one several years ago now in which a teenager started lecturing his mother on feminism and the patriarchy. And now that’s the norm. So I no longer watch current gay movies.
I loved the original Fab 5, and Will & Grace. Just people being themselves - no propaganda.
As a filmmaker who is straight white male, how can I get around these issues at film festivals?
Oppression =money , we need our cut as well!
Thank you guys
I want to see films to be entertained and get my mind off the real world, not be lectured about how awful I am. I haven't been to a theater in more than 5 years now.
Victims have status without effort.
It’s because everyone has to be a victim today.
The shortcut to clout in Hollywood these days is playing the victim.
Asians don't appear as frequently in American films but to be fair there are massive Asian exclusive film industries all over the world. Half the shows on Netflix are Korean, almost all animation is Japanese and Hong Kong action films have dominated the global box office for decades. Also Asian Americans don't scream and cry if they are not in 100% of all media at all times like a certain other ethnic demographic.
This needs to be pointed out. Asia built their own markets.
As a British-Asian for a time I enjoyed films about Asian life but is that all these Asian Filmmakers can do? I wanna see more Asian Filmmakers make Sci-Fi, Horror and especially Fantasy there are rich mythologies & legends to draw inspiration from all over Asia
Great video gents!
What movie is being shown behind Alan?
That's a really cool poster behind Chris. I have the exact same one, but mine has a bunch of autographs on it 😁
Did any of the documentaries look at Japan's attempted colonization of China from 1937-45? Or China's occupation of Tibet?
What am I saying? Of course they didn't. Such topics would be inconvenient to the narrative.
Hong Kong peodiced great film for years. Where has alan been. The first film i saw as a child, in jamaica was a kung fu film in 1977. Not a single white person in it. Some of my favorite actors growing were not white. Some from hong kong some born in the u.s.
yeah i dont understand the obsession with hollywood, old jackie chan movies were the best growing up
As a Norwegian American whose family arrived here after the Civil War, I apologize if my ancestors enslaved some of Chris's 1,000 years ago.
Seek a glimpse into the fantastic: truth will sing to you;
...or not .
Seek a glimpse into the mundane: you will wade in the ( tepid if not toxic ) whirlpool of regression where very few can swim:
Forcibly tell people you ARE the fantastic , then they might notice the sky is blue and changes color not at a whim or a whimper, but at the anvil of reality
u guys are awesome. I can't help but notice that Alan is still seduced by identity politics. a little bit anyway. but atleast he defends that it's gone too far.
Sorry, I like seeing Asians in movies.
@Film Threat thanks for the reply Alan!! 🙌🙏. respect. but yeah anyway. I found a quote from Joe Rogan just then where he says "I hate identity politics with a passion, I really do, it's so stupid". and i totally agree lol. here's the perfect filter I've come up with. ready? if you swap it around and put white people then say it again, if it then sounds cringe. then you'll see where I'm coming from !
it's literally the perfect filter. if people are traumatised by any past rac1sm then you just have to let it go. no point holding on
Bollywood, Korean Film and TV, Japanese anime…
@Basement Brothers Collectibles I'm half way thru an excellent series called Alice in Borderland. so good! (and I'm not even represented on the screen lol)
“When did we get so weak”
Right, when did y’all get so soft😅
That a sign of the culture
Great clip, but disheartening. As a filmmaker in production with a narrative short, these observations about the ideological bent to so many film festival juries, is frustrating. Could my non-woke film be dead on arrival? 😢
I think Chris owns about six or seven slaves.
Six or seven GAINFULLY EMPLOYED HUMAN LABOR. That's the politically correct term. I have a few myself.
I don’t get this?
Whatever happend to those other type of movies with Filipino nurses? Oh right the seventies ended!
What was so "bad" about Trump?
Oh noooo Asians wenta roke… 🙇♂️
Asians in the U.S. and to a lesser extent other countries. I doubt the Asians in Japan, China, Korea, etc., think that way.
We may look back and find these anti-rascist reactions totally appropriate. Recognizing others suffering should increase our empathy. Chris, slavery shaped our entire society and will always be a major story. If everybody has suffered like you, it might be good to have stories from other cultures showing the human will to live to compare your own relationship to your own will. Isn't seeing into a very different person's life by a good cinematographer more interesting than another stereotypical rom-com where nonwhites are just work friends/love helper?
So what all this be to say don't even bother trying to get into a festival if you've not got something that's incredibly woke? If I guess that kind of rules me out for being any Festival cuz I don't even know how to do awoke film they cannot logically make sense to me. Therefore I do not make them ever.
You guys... Bitch I wasn't even around.
Collectivism…a mindset of the woke
Doesn't mater, collective guilt is now a thing.
I dunno bro, you’re 6 percent of the population, I think your extremely well represented in American cinema. In fact, pretty much all the races (18% black, 12% Hispanic I think) including Asians get a way bigger part of the representation than you actually deserve.
12-13% black. 16-17% Hispanic
@@StratumPress Hispanic is not a race, however. The U.S. Census Bureau states clearly that Hispanics can be of any race.