An Overview of the P&H Virgo
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ส.ค. 2024
- As we prepare to release the Virgo in a third, HV size, Mathew talks us through the finer details which set it apart as the ideal compact sea kayak for weekend warriors.
Find out more in our blog post: www.phseakayak...
I’m 6’2” 240lbs, currently I paddle the Venture Islay 14’. Do you think I’ll notice a speed or performance gain with the Virgo HV?
Yes, absolutely - the Virgo's hull is certainly more performance-orientated than the Islay's, without sacrificing too much stability.
The question is, when are you going to make them in green or red? 😀
We have some good news for you... we offer both those colours on a special order basis!
@@PHSeaKayaks I was going to say. I just had some coaching from someone who was lent one for testing and when she asked for a green one she was told 'we don't make green ones' 🤣. She managed to get one specially made but the colours on the website are still only orange, blue and yellow if I recall. Good to know 🙂👌
@@livz666 we're pretty busy right now, so we've kept it on the down-low... but now you know 😉
@@PHSeaKayaks Thanks! Good to see you're busy :)
I’m 165 cm tall. Should I go for LV or MV?
Most likely the LV, unless you're approaching the top of the weight limit (80kg) or you're planning to carry a lot of gear with you - i.e. a long week in cold conditions or more.
I’d avoid buying Pand H products as they have a tendency to discontinue hatches for example meaning boat has limited life span . Stay with Valley
Thanks for your comment.
The case you're referring to is a polyethylene model which was produced by a third party before we took ownership of the brand, producing both composite and polyethylene models in house ourselves.
Examples of the particular model in question are at least 18 years old, and therefore well beyond the 12-year maximum advisable lifespan of a polyethylene kayak (based on research conducted by ourselves and our supplier, but not a stretch of the imagination if you think of the longevity of any plastic item designed for outdoor use, most of which aren't intended for use in extreme environments where the user's life depends on their durability).
Moreover, the quality of the hatch covers was not reflective of our standards, and rather than having an average lifespan matching or exceeding that of the kayak shell itself (as is the case with the KajakSport hatch covers we've used on all models since we took ownership of the P&H brand), often required replacing after just a few years. Valley still use a similar compound for the construction of their current hatch covers as those we have discontinued. The mould used for their production had also reached the point where it required replacing, which would have bumped the cost of the replacements up significantly.
In short, contrary to your statement, we discontinued those items as no longer felt it was responsible to enable the continued use of those boats long past their advisable lifespan, and also as the items did not meet the standards we strive for and customers expect from P&H.
More information can be found, here: www.phseakayaks.com/blog/the-sun-is-setting-on-pre-2004-ph-capella-product-support/
Thank you.
Big time disappointment. Went to sit in the Virgo HV to try out the fit and wow, it’s way too tight across the hips, guess these boats are for the super skinny. I’m 6’2” tall, 240 lbs, 40” waist and it’s super tight because the seat sides taper inward towards the seat back. To fit in there with the hip pads you’d need a 36” waist. My size 13 feet were also catching on the back of the deck pod. Maybe you could make one that’s made for a larger person.
Sorry to hear that! It sounds like you were sitting in the boat with the hip pads - many actually prefer to go without these (it allows easier trunk rotation for more efficient forward paddling, which of course, is the majority of sea kayaking!), and there are pre-installed foam shims that can be removed if you find them too tight but don't want to lose them completely. It's also important that you make sure they're adjusted to hook over your hips, rather than press into them. I'm a similar size to you (6'1", 250lbs, 40" waist - but only UK 9.5 feet) and found I was relatively comfortable in the boat, so I am confident there is hope for you to find comfort too! I'm surprised your feet were catching on the deck pod, as they should be well past it at your height - are you sure it wasn't another internal fitting the were touching? Perhaps try adjusting the footrests to a slightly different position, or positioning your feet on them differently. We can fit the footrests to a custom position if required, and/or build a boat without the deck pod for you. If you're looking for a boat with guaranteed comfort room, then I'd recommend taking a look at the Scorpio MKII HV.
I'll give you £1500 for X2 MZ3 . I'll collect them on Wednesday 👍👍.... seriously.
Hi, thanks for the interest in our kayaks!
We primarily sell through dealers, and the lead time is a little longer than a few days at the moment (although some dealers may have stock themselves); best to speak to your nearest: www.phseakayaks.com/find-a-dealer.php
@@PHSeaKayaks 👍 so a deal 'could' be had 😉
@@thejasongenova4327 probably not, our dealers have gone through a rough few months and are now in a period where they can barely get enough kayaks to meet demand, so they're unlikely to want to give money away without a good reason!
@@PHSeaKayaks ah well, don't ask don't get. Kind of expecting no sales this year as Covid-19 travel restrictions have pushed demand through the roof. No need to reduce anything if it's all flying out before it's even in stock. Even used prices are crazy high right now.