Classic WoW: Warlock Leveling Guide 2.0 (Talents, Wand Progression, Rotation, Macros, Tips & Tricks)
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Why so much focus on private server macros when we know for a fact that Classic will use the modern code?
You'd be better of switching it for current retail macros, since they'll be more accurate.
solid point man..happy to do a v3 when we get conclusive info on how classic will operate :)
Thanks so much for reuploading
Really looking forward to a rogue leveling guide
Great guide Kargoz!
About gearing while leveling... What is more efficient for a warlock: Staves or 1H + Offhand?
Time stamps for the video:
0:00 Introduction
1:07 Pros and cons of Warlock leveling
2:09 Class overview
3:14 Before you start
4:29 Useful things to keep in mind
5:26 Macros
8:01 Life 1-10
9:30 Talent progression (10:27/14:32/14:44/15:49)
16:54 Life 10-20
19:14 Life 20-30
20:06 Life 30-40
20:52 Life 40+
21:58 1.12 Attributes + stat values
22:46 Alliance wand progression (Smoldering wand not included)
24:21 Horde wand progression
25:03 Class quests
25:43 Closing thoughts
not all heroes wear capes
Sir, you're a content machine ! The quality in these is ridiculous, really enjoying them. Thanks man
I love the way you end these videos with just a quiet shot from some zone. Gives it a really nice touch :)
Love the vids, seriously - great stuff! On the other hand, I'm conflicted. The more I watch, the more I get hyped for the release. But the more I watch, the more I remember, which leeches a bit of the fun of re-discovering things (if that makes any sense) Keep up the great work!
I'm really excited for Vanilla to come. Your amazing guides will blow up. I've been thinking about what class to pick and this has helped me a lot to understand each class. Keep going, you rock. :)
the only thin i would add to these guides is quickly go over the hit chance you would want to get for each class and for each build. other then that best guides ever
That’s a really good point.
Really like your guides man. I've made a few for the rogue community. And I know you've poured a ton of yourself into these guides in order to get them going. I also like how consistent your info is especially collaborating with people that know their class inside and out and then offering it to the community. Liked and subscribed.
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. Really appreciate all the hardwork and leg work you did to help people get started. Good Luck today in Classic!
The quality of your productions are amazing, keep it going ;)
Using wands is such a huge game changer
I appreciate the concise info, a lot in a small amount of time. Very useful for someone who hasn't played a lock much.
the amount of detail u put into these videos, especially the class guides, is unreal dude keep it up theyre super helpful!
My god classic WoW needs to come out already.
Private servers exist, dude.
6 months later.... FKKKKK
Aug 26/27th it will be out.
No way, i am happy its coming out in late august. I am taking 2 weeks off work so i can play while the kids are in school and i dont have to dad. its going to be like i am 25 again!!!
@@Joe-ck3ju same, but I have no kids and still living with.... fuck me I'm gonna be that guy 😭 😂
So cool that you upload 2 or more videos every day! Keep it up! :D
A comprehensive guide to my favorite class by my favorite WoW TH-camr? Sign me up.
Dude, you’ve made an old warlock nostalgic, I appreciate that.
The enchanted gold bloodrobe, in addition to being great right up to the low 50s, had one other big selling point: visually it was a perfect match for Whitemane’s Chapeau. Those two items were like the official uniform of an up and coming mid-range lock back in the day.
I'm almost totally new to WOW (had like a level 15 druid back in 2006) but always regretted not soaking in vanilla when it was available. So your videos are reaching not just veterans but some new folks too. Really quality content man.
My big takeaway: Agony is like a mortgage. Got it. :)
Great guide, very informative and concise with a direct approach and no fluff in between the tips/info. Thanks for making this
Appreciate your leveling guides! The trip back to vanilla has been fun and these guides have really been useful!
I found improved voidwalker extremely op when leveling. I recommend getting this ASAP after instant corruption.
You won't be able to pull agro on single targets, multi target threat is higher, and sacrifice is just OP^2.
The dps you lose is more than made up for by the better threat and survivability. Leveling is faster.
Good video!
Yeah, im at lvl 41 now and i cant really life tap and drain life efficiently because if i use more than corruption and curse of agony, my voidwalker can no longer hold aggro :(
Drain build better cuz you will eventualu oit aggro it so i got drain build plus sucvubus
Great video. So interesting to see the simplicity yet depth this game had at the beginning. Wish it could go back to this 😆
#soon ...
Excellent guide! I love that you put the wand part in there and where to get them. Its things like that that I appreciate, more of helpful hints than cookie cutter builds.
thanks man, havnt played in a decade, helped a lot
lvl 17warlock atm
What a lot of guys forget is that Vanilla WoW was probably most peoples 1st mmorpg and the competitive mindset of min/making, bis items, knowing the meta mindset etc came from private servers/moba games/online competitive scene of gaming.
Having the private server mentality of knowing everything, following a certain pattern will affect the true original vanilla experience. For example now when I play online games be it mmorpgs or mobas I always learn the meta and the competitive side of the game firstly. This mindset didnt exist before because it was all about the unknown, forging your own adventure and learning on the way not knowing everything which created a lot of adventurous memories, the true vanilla experience was before the competitive side of mmorpgs/mobas/online gaming in general came into play or when meta awareness wasn't a thing at all. I'm not saying it is the right way to play because you cant go back in time and reverse and erase memory but the true vanilla experience is not just about "no changes" it is also about the innocence of a child stepping into a world not knowing anything about wow/online gaming/competitive gaming/meta game & stepping into the unknown!
Im so freaking hyped for classic cya there guys we're going home! :'-) !
You are so right! Finally someone who understands :)
Meta awareness and min/maxing was there back in vanilla and something that existed in mmorpgs before WoW. Just because players new to the genre didn't know about it then doesn't mean it didn't exist. I would say it's more widespread and amplified now since people have had 15 years to add to the knowledge base but it wasn't something that originated from the private server culture.
I can attest as a player that came from EQ Online Adventures as my first MMO, and being there when wow launched on Xmas 2004. At that time in WoW I was a fkn moron. 👍
When you went through the talent tree part reminded me that I rolled the afflic/destro version
You have me so hyped for classic. I’ve watched this video twice. Wish I could upvote twice. Awesome video. You sound like you legitimately care about warlocks.
you break down vanilla wow really well. Take it from a player who's played since 2004. Nice to bring it back
you put much effort into your videos you deserve a sub !
When you pre like the video because you know it’s going to be quality content. Good stuff as always bro.
Quality video, great stuff. Will definitely be using this guide when the official classic servers are up
I am so excited for classic, Warlock will probably be my first toon to level up, for the reduced cost. Also probably taking Enchanting/Tailoring for easy costless profits. Back in original vanilla I was a clicker (was still new to computer gaming, had no idea what key binds were), didn't use any key binds, so I am stoked to see how much more efficient I can be now.
Do not skip curse of recklessness!!! If you fear a mob and it's running to aggro mobs you don't want you slap it with CoR and it will come back to you. Then you slap coa back up and it will start getting feared in a new direction..
pro right here
Great in stockades..where mobs flee into the open arms of the next group.
So thorough. Excellent work man. Thanks for all of this useful info!
I used to be a mage class officer is a raiding guild back in the day if you ever need help. Can't wait for Classic, thank you so much for the nostalgia and the hype!
As a warlock main for years I was thoroughly happy to see you do a warlock guide next. Great job btw! I'd like to add a petmacro to the list:
/script if UnitExists("target") then if a==0 then PetAttack(target) a=1 else if UnitExists("pettarget") and UnitIsUnit("target", "pettarget") then PetFollow("YourNameHere") a=0 else PetAttack(target) end;end; else PetFollow("YourNameHere") a=0 end;
This will make your pet attack whatever target you have. And when pressed again will have it follow you. Very handy as you only need to use one keybind for it.
Yours is quickly becoming one of my favorite channels. I am getting more and more excited for Classic and your videos are helping me decide what I want to play (as well as providing extra hype).
The production value is great, and I hope you do well. Why did your old guides get pulled?
hey bro thank you for the kind words of support...last guides got pulled in a copyright strike against me ;(
Well that is a shame, I don't see why. Perhaps music? Game guides are like the bread and butter of youtube videos, I can't imagine the grounds on which they put a strike on them.
In any case, I am glad to see you moving forward. I think that this will be a channel I use profusely come Classic 's launch. And I will make sure to send some others along too!
Austin Heller it got copyrighted cuz he had classic footage from pservers and not old footage from official blizz servers
Gotcha, that makes more sense. Thankfully, we won't have to worry about that much longer :D
You're awesome! Thanks for making these! I'm getting nostalgic just from watching these :)
After watching your hunter lvling guide, I subscribed! Nice quality of content sir! Thanks
WARLOCKS IN CLASSIC
Completely braindead in pvp
I've never played a Warlock in my life. But I've decided once Classic comes back around, that's what I'll be doing. >:)
@Ramen Eater That's my second choice. There's always a need for a healer lol
@Ramen Eater lmao dude same i just started. im picking warlock in classic. There were like 10-20 warlocks in elwynn lmao
may your bones rot demon.
I'm looking forward to giving Wow another 10 years of my life.
Really though....
This is so fucking epic!! People who really love this era will keep this server alive for years. The way they are releasing the content over the months will really keep the longevity going. Especially since not every guild will have everything on auto farm right away.
Keep up with the Good work, loving your vids :) props from Portugal 🇵🇹
Hey man, just earned yourself a subscribe. You gave ALL the info I was interested in, and kept it really concise and quick. Thank you so much!!! Please make a mage guide
25 days boys. Thanks for the guide Kargoz. good content.
Nice. I leveled my gnome warlock through vanilla with almost the same as his first build. But I never used macros back then...straight hardcore manual mode. Can’t wait to run a lock again.
Cheers for the refresher video! Always called the triangular trap something mechanically accurate, ping pong.
Some much content in this video. This rotation with the wand is so efficient. It blew me away home much of a difference it makes! Thank you!
Dude its insane, i played for 7 hours today and didnt drink or eat once. (Although i was duo leveling with a rogue and when they can ambush properly everything dies very fast)
I remember in vanilla on the lock I levelled, when I got the tailor gear (shadow weave iirc) in the late 30's 40's, I respecced closely to that third spec with 3/3 drain life and just drain life tanked everything. Nigh unkillable in open world with so much sp at that level.
I like this format so much better then the old dude
Kargoz I love all your videos! So much work put in, so well put together, and fast and concise. I’ve watched so many, and now deciding on class to play for turtle wow I’ve watched a ton of your vids to help visualize how my playthrough and endgame will feel. I’ve played retail and private servers since vanilla and played every class a ton, but I’ve usually been rogue main. Almost wanted to do rogue again but as herb alchemy as I never have done that or gone human, but I also think I should do a least played class like warlock for me, or pally or mage hahaha… hard to decide.
Your videos are just amazing, full of passion and hard work ! You are sharing so much, thank you for that !!
Watched both lock guides, would watch two more if you decide to make em 8)
amazing guide, please do warrior next - but also all the other classes : D
Enjoy all your work on this, thanks
Now THIS is a guide. Such a great resource. Well done!!
I'm currently working on an Orc Warlock speedrun path and strategy, using Joana's guide as a template and modifying it where needed. Got the starting zone down to a better time than Joana's record consistently and just finished optimizing durotar, basically until reaching XR.
Do you know any people or a community interested in working on this as well? I think there is a great potential in warlock speed leveling and I'd love to bounce ideas off someone and ask more experienced players about things that I don't know for sure - such as, when should I expect crafted wands to appear on AH after the server launch and other intangible things that can be only learned from new server experiences.
This guide is also helpful so thanks for the great work ;)
hey dude id be down to collab on this :) lets talk in discord?
All right, I joined your server I'll try to catch you when you're online ;)
Nice work! Love your guides
thank you brother
Amazing, gonna use this guide for WoW Classic next year. :)
Ready for my Warlock THANKS!
Really loving the videos!
ty for this. From Russia with love
great quality... really liked your Mage and Warrior ones
youve really been helping me pump up classic wow brother. subscription has been canceled since the day after i hit 120 in BFA just waiting for the classic experience to take me home.
Seeing how the macros don't work in the official version of Vanilla WoW will you be updating them?
tried the macros for recall pet whilst drainsoul is up. Got the error message "a macro script has been blocked...." etc any ideas guys. Great video btw
I've spent the whole night watching classic/vanilla wow vids. Mulling over what to make for classic; I'm definitely going a warlock. Maybe orc for the wolfie mount and the stun resist. The first character I ever made in wow was an undead lock. Loved that character so much. Also...earned a sub ;P I will watch all your guides. Now I have to wait until classic comes out play. I hope it's very early next year. BTW - Have been off wow for 9 years, played preBC and BC.
This is super nice bro. Thanks I'm stoked about classic.
Sorry, I'm not good with macros in WOW. Are you going to update them for Classic release/beta? I tried the Standalone Pet Send Macro and it just tells me it's blocked from the UI.
Yeah, same here. I would like to know how to write the Drain Soul macro with the new macro system as well.
The guides are the best vanilla clas guides i have ever seen. pls do mage next.
yes do a mage guide next please!!
Love the video, thanks! The link to talents is broken though, I came looking for it specifically but great info I didn't know I needed :D
Great content, 100K+ sub channel in the future. I’m 50/50 on warlock or warrior. I love the utility of warlock and the feeling of being “needed”
any chance you update this before launch?
I feel like I'm at a briefing lol
Can’t wait till this comes out. Got my self a full setup built and just sat there waiting till August
I love how really exited he is every leveling guide
“Nutty”
Warlock is the only class where I’ve consistently been at 20% heath and 20% mana and still going for more pulls.
Dammit! I thought I knew for sure I would play Priest in Classic, but now you are reminding me how much fun I had with Warlock in Vanilla/BC! :D I loved playing Affliction... dot dot dot! :D Warlock was the only class I was ever able to get the achievement for 20 kills without dying in Warsong Gulch, and one of the most fun for leveling and grinding. Yes, locks are a ton of fun, and highly useful for both damage and CC in dungeons/raids.
that achievement wasen't even in vanilla or BC lol.
Awwwwwwsome! Thanks so much for this quality guide! NOW I can be a good warlock :)
I have played Warlock almost exclusive. A few things that I think should be noted:
PVP: Stuns should be cons or as at least considered as a major weakness. In pvp stuns will destroy most warlocks as you don't have a great counter to them unless you are an Orc. Past that you can be very good in PVP just a good rogue will always be a weakness.
Raids and Dungeons: Warlocks are great because of their stamina in fights, but I would not classify their damage as great or even that good, especially without a shadow priest or regular heals, in raids that comes in TBC when they become the unstoppable shadow bolt machine. You don't even get a great AOE until TBC. Most of the time you will be managing your threat in raids and the utility they bring is more important (Curses, Hstones, Summoning, etc.). Many times you will be able to spike damage, which means you really have to watch threat sometimes, but not sustain it in raids. Going into Naxx is when you will start to shine some.
Warlocks are probably the highest skill cap in Classic.
You level extremely fast, but at 60 it becomes much harder to provide value outside of utility.
Chance to hit is pretty much your most needed stat at 60.
Warlock was a kitchen sink type class that always seemed like Blizzard didn't quite have a clear idea what it was early on other than a dot class. Dot classes are notorious for trying to balance in MMOs, so in many ways I think they were originally overtuned in some areas and undertuned in others. That is also a reason there are so many conflicting opinions about the best way to level and play the class. In Vanilla I had a warlock buddy in my raiding guild, and we would go back and forth over the best specs, etc. for this very reason, and it is still going on in many ways to this day.
I just see a lot of hyping up warlocks these days, but just be warned there are some serious downsides to the class that I believe are getting majorly understated. Don't get me wrong I love the class beyond any other class but be for warned it is a messy rough class in Vanilla that didn't shine until The Burning Crusade with Shadow and Flame and SL/SL.
As a fellow WL main till the end of Wrath of the Lich King (stopped playing on Cataclysm release), i totaly agree with you on every point but one.
Stuns are your biggest enemy in PvP, agreed. You can do something about it though (Talking about 1v1 situations). You have your Sukkubus to seduce the enemy while youre stunned, on top of that you can take ingenieur as a profession wich gives you those lovely stun explosives (wich you can precast since the traveltime of the projectile is quite long, even if you throw them right on the ground youre standing on).
You also have a lot of instants to prevent taking further damage after you got stunlocked (if you die while stunned anyway, its most likely a matter of gear difference, wich is a thing with every class).
I did a lot of pvp in classic and the only thing i found where overwhelmingly hard to manage where heal Druids wich could just outrun you 24/7 and there was nothing you could do about it (shapeshifting bastards).
I agree on the "a good rogue will always be a weakness" part, even though that counts for every Class.
@@derbudz I should have been a little more specific. I am mostly referring to world pvp. What I meant by "good" is most of them will pick their fights and know what to do. Your succubus can help against a bad rogue, 1v1, or one you can catch off guard, but the succubus being so fragile and being the only invisible pet you have you don't stand much of a chance. You are right though succubus is the one counter we have.
Druids can be tough, Warriors can be really tough, etc. A rogue worth his salt will still outpace a warlock most of the time.
Rogues are fairly easy to counter, theres stun remove potions and visability potions. But yeah if they jump you first then you are in difficult times. Tho anything can counter anything in Classis and TBC
@@serza7254 Warlocks have a harder time with rogue than most other classes. On top of that many other classes can be really tough as well. The fact is Drakedog and many others that have made Warlocks out to be some overpowered pvp are simply wrong. Warlocks is Vanilla had great CC and quite few tricks, but were far worse in pvp than they have been made out to be.
So I have a question for you Kargoz. I noticed you are preferring Orc over and Undead and I'm wondering why? Pure visual or do you actually believe that Orc>Undead if we min-max?
25% stun res in classic >>>
Blizz or wowhead should contact you for a collab man the amount of work you put into that you deserve the spotlight. Theres even a google doc ffs.
Definateley my go to guide thank you Kargoz for your hard work!
one small note for warlocks who want to be a bit more advanced from the jump, do not bake your pet attack into skills like he mentioned in the video. yes, it will get the job done but there will be times when you want your pet staying on 1 mob while you either dot or shadow bolt another mob or while you refresh dots on a mob that your pet already has aggro on. if you bake pet attack into an ability it's a lazy way to get the job done but you will ultimately notice that you are using globals and mana inefficiently just to move your pet around with these casts.
find 2 binds that make sense to you for making your pet attack and return, i personally use mouse wheel up for attack and mouse wheel down to go passive but it's whatever works for you. if you're new you can bake it in like he said to get a grasp, but ultimately you will not want to keep it this way once you know what you're doing.
I personally disagree with macroing pet attack to your abilities. binding pet attack to a key is more effective, as you can pull with your pet that way, and it isn't running around from mob to mob when you're multi dotting. i bind attack, then DoT up. that way if I fear/dot another mob , my pet won't hit it and break it out of fear, or spend time running in circles between enemies .
Same
Agreed. Shift+T works fine for sending the VW to a desired mob.
Mouse scroll up for pet attack and mouse scroll down for pet follow is super easy to use
AsmodeusClips that's a great tip. Thanks!!
Same here
Thank you so much bro, Very well put together video!
I was on the fence of what class I was going to play before this video. But after watching this guide, WARLOCK IT IS!!
Hello there Kargoz. The macros/scripts doesn't seem to be working? Any suggestion?
-Love the guide btw
Same issue here
If you're using /script, it won't work because those are private server commands. Only type what you want happening, don't use script.
Pet commands are simply /petattack and /petfollow
Is starting with immolate really that good, it does have that initial damage after all. I personally liked putting it last, when VW has some aggro already, or avoid it at all sometimes. Just personal preference. Great guide man.
no you start with 2 shadowbolts from max range. or one then immolate. then cast dots as you move away from target unless its a mage then get on top of his ass or he blinks away
Was going to give the official Classic a try when I wasn't playing live already but, your videos have made me feel a decent amount of hype to juggle both versions 😄
Germany loves you and your Guides. Great!
A little gnome warlock with red pigtails (don’t judge, I was a 10 year old girl 😆) was my first wow character ever! She kicked some serious horde butt back in the day! :)
How'd you get a picture of me as your profile pic? :p
Gnome power! That +5% intellect really makes a difference
Same here, male gnome with the "my head just exploded" hairstyle in white.
I loved the flavour of the Warlock and was proud as all hell, as I managed to get my Lvl 60 mount via the quest!
Alliance wins
@Matt Lang
Simple: We don't. :D
11:05 Man this is getting intense
Your guide will be usefull when i'll play wow classic. Thank You very much ^^
nice work man!
Hello Kargoz!
I like your leveling guides and I think that they are clearly above average considering other vanilla guilde content on TH-cam. I'd like to point out two things about the talent builds you show:
1. I dislike how your kind of brush over the significance of lifetap talent. Lifetap is an ability you very well might use more the once / mob you pull. Some of the builds you show does not go directly into 2/2 lifetap and I have to disagree with that. 7 Points spent into Affliction and 2/2 lifetap aligns perfectly with Lifetap rank 2 that you learn at level 16 - not going for this is highly dubious.
2. This is more of a special case. But on a fresh server, if you level with a Group, you may want to take Supression over Corruption. Due to how overpopulated the starting zones are its a common strategy to go outside of the startzone and defeat higher level mobs as a Group - "raiding" level 16 mobs with a level 12 party etc... If you are leveling on fresh and find yourself ending up in this scenario it is highly viable to get Supression so that your Corruption and Agony actually land.
/script isnt allowed in classic, all the macros needs to be redone
how can i make them then?
i havent gotten any of the macros to work, any help?
@@stevenroberts5740 bump - same here
@@stevenroberts5740 I have managed to do the "pet - attack / cast spell" as following:
/petattack
/cast *spell*
I was just trying to make em and yea any new macro video up?
Beautifully done guide, thank you.
Never played a Warlock and I've been out of the game for years but Classic has pulled me back in.
Good luck and I hope you try out warlock. I tried melee warlock at the beginning. That experiment failed.