October 2024 SSBM Tier List

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  • @Ghoats
    @Ghoats หลายเดือนก่อน +326

    someone teach this man about adblock🙏😭

    • @Tryc3
      @Tryc3 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

      Ublock Origin 💪

    • @joeykeilholz925
      @joeykeilholz925 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Or just crop 😭

    • @SaltInYourEye_ICs
      @SaltInYourEye_ICs หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Nah, he keepin it real

    • @robloxmasterxddd9856
      @robloxmasterxddd9856 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bro needs brave browser

    • @SludgeBob_
      @SludgeBob_ หลายเดือนก่อน

      Full screen would work for me honestly. Ad blocker would be a plus

  • @GoomySmash
    @GoomySmash หลายเดือนก่อน +79

    If amsa never picked up Melee Yoshi would still be considered unviable

    • @Nick-em8zi
      @Nick-em8zi หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I do think amsa makes it look so easy people overate how good you need to be to win with Yoshi

    • @nbshftr
      @nbshftr หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Nick-em8zi amsa is de coolest player to ever touch yoshi

  • @saymehname
    @saymehname หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I agree about your take on Link and Roy. I think with adequate work put into those characters we will see new results.

    • @jrodd13
      @jrodd13 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What about Mewtwo and G&W?

    • @xbox7912
      @xbox7912 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jrodd13mr game and watch is my second favorite character in this game (first is CF) but I don't think he'll ever be GREAT 😢😢

    • @saymehname
      @saymehname หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jrodd13 mewtwo for sure if he wasn’t so light and his tail wasn’t such a bit hurtbox. But he dies so easy :(

  • @revelation2-9
    @revelation2-9 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    Excellent list Hax. I think that Doc should be in C tier as well but other than that, great video. Keep up the good content.

  • @nathanprindler
    @nathanprindler หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Jiggy's tier break is also earned on account that there's a *wide* gap between Hungrybox and the next competitive Puff main. So it's more an attribute to the player than the character, like aMSa with Yoshi.

    • @LycheenutOWL
      @LycheenutOWL หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Falco is somewhat in the same boat. Feels like Hbox's Puff & Mang0's Falco may have somewhat stagnated in development due to them essentially solo paving the way for the character for over a decade.

  • @Lioni177
    @Lioni177 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Hax getting Tommy Bahama AD's is peak

  • @slugrex
    @slugrex หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Nice tierlist. Surprising part to me was when you said Peach loses hard to Marth. Armada said a lot that he thinks Peach holding a turnip wins the matchup, without one she is losing

    • @astrosandorbits5532
      @astrosandorbits5532 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      If I remember correctly... he said she goes even with marth with a turnip in hand. Either way, the matchup improves for Peach considerably when she has a turnip out and that can't go unnoticed. It's one of those quirky elements to melee that make it such a great game

    • @drakejoshofficialyoutubech5569
      @drakejoshofficialyoutubech5569 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah Peach does really bad against Marth from what I've seen.
      At the very least it's bad enough that back in 2016 Mango was experimenting with Marth as an FD counterpick against Peach, and the crazy part is that his Marth even took multiple games off of Armada at WTFox 2

    • @noyd4172
      @noyd4172 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@drakejoshofficialyoutubech5569 Mango was taking games off of Trif with Marth earlier this year too.

    • @TheBeggies95
      @TheBeggies95 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think Marth wins but Peach payers have to stop acting like it’s an atrocious MU. Marth can’t kill or get in against turnips + peach punish and ledge trapping are strong

  • @Mecinimi
    @Mecinimi หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    Hax, learn how to crop your recording area so that you don’t have to have the top part of your browser or the ads! Guides for OBS are available

    • @skedoom8421
      @skedoom8421 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Or just hit F11 bruh 😭🙏

  • @loganmyall660
    @loganmyall660 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Ready for some crazy opinions like fox in both place 1 and 2

  • @clemmm.
    @clemmm. หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    hey hax i've actually been waiting for your latest 2024 tier list. youre funny man

  • @boxob093
    @boxob093 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    1:07 "number one is fox, needs no explanation" *explains for 1 minute 11 seconds* 💀💀💀

    • @WesleyFiles
      @WesleyFiles หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It's an expression.

  • @Phantom_madman
    @Phantom_madman หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Sheik puff and falcon seem to change a lot based on tournament recency. And peach would be higher if armada still played, you cant have that dominance with a character and if be next to pika

    • @ariesomega2487
      @ariesomega2487 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The question is what is the argument for peach being higher. I am big peach believer but she clearly loses to fox, marth and puff. Gets beaten by sheik and goes evenish with falco/falcon. The fact that yoshi goes even with marth and puff alone makes him better. (Although he gets shit on by peach and falcon) it is a tough call but i would agree with hax that falcon is set and peach and yoshi could vary

    • @Phantom_madman
      @Phantom_madman หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ariesomega2487 fact that armada never lost to a non top 6 player for years with peach proves to me the matchup are not as bad as people say. I refuse to believe you can have that dominance if the character is as bad as they say. Armada had pretty delusional tierlist takes with puff being nr1 and stuff. Best believe he downplayed the character severly. Armada often destroyed m2ks marth and sheik. He never lost to falcon outside of s2j once and silentspectre years ago. Character is right behind falcon at the minimum

    • @quetzalcoatl4255
      @quetzalcoatl4255 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Phantom_madman Armada never lost to S2J

    • @Phantom_madman
      @Phantom_madman 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@quetzalcoatl4255 oh im remembering wrong then, even more impressive

  • @heydms
    @heydms หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great list! love hearing all the insight and thoughts around this!

  • @CosmicRadiationMusic
    @CosmicRadiationMusic หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Although I believe Ganon deserves a C tier placing and that Peach is maybe better than Yoshi, this is a pretty solid rule of thumb list.
    I also believe with so much player variance that a lot of match ups that people see as "slightly winning/losing" is just 50/50, no need to make it complicated. (an example being fox falco)

  • @fisss306
    @fisss306 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    You never mentioned who in B tier clearly beats Sheik

    • @papadelta9485
      @papadelta9485 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      ice climbers*

    • @ssbmhax
      @ssbmhax  หลายเดือนก่อน +81

      Ice Climbers, sorry

    • @xbox7912
      @xbox7912 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ssbmhaxhope your having a good day hax

  • @CoachOliverLynch
    @CoachOliverLynch หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is the most accurate tie list out there. I also agree Yoshui is better than peach. I would even argue that yoshi slight wins vs marth. The use of super armor and marth's lack of reliable strong knockback moves creates a unique MU. No one else in the cast has this unique ability to counter one of marth's only weaknesses. Epic video Hax$!

  • @MrPomegranX
    @MrPomegranX หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've been HEAVILY waiting for this

    • @InsyloFGC
      @InsyloFGC หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      oh yeah?

    • @MrPomegranX
      @MrPomegranX หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @InsyloFGC Yeah!

  • @wonkywombat12
    @wonkywombat12 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    hmm, I feel like I'd add a tier in between your current b and c tier and put pikachu and dk into that tier. my reasoning is that dk and pika have honestly fairly similar matchup spreads, with a few exceptions. they both do pretty well into spaces and marth, considering that they are mid tiers (I'd argue that dk prolly does better into spacies and pike better into marth but who knows), and both get absolutely trunched by sheik. However, dk has a surprisingly good puff matchup, while pika has a surprisingly good falcon matchup (I would say pika does better into falcon than dk does into puff, but I think dk also does better into falcon than pika does puff). Then both of them struggle with peach (though dk I think less so), for Yoshi honestly I have no idea because the gap between amsa and any other Yoshi is just so absurd that drawing conclusions on his matchups feels difficult to do, and they both get dunked on by it's. Incidentally dk also beats pikachu by a fair margin imo (just kills insanely early).
    So yeah I feel like they're similar enough that they ought to go in the same tier, ordering between the two of them I would say depends on your opinions on which matchups are more valuable and such, but they feel very similar to me despite being wildly different characters mechanically.

  • @unapologeticasshat9214
    @unapologeticasshat9214 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    If you're using google chrome, google recently axed all adblocking compatibility with their browser. So anything chrome based is gonna experience ads now probably. Thats the reason you're getting that shit at the bottom. Also I'd argue that Jigglypuff is entirely and solely carried by Hungrybox, and wouldn't see her placings without him. I do agree with Yoshi above Peach but only very slightly. Unlike Puff whose tools are clearly defined, Yoshi takes a kind of gameplay only a very small niche of the community are going to be capable of getting to the level Amsa plays at.
    Also I think Ness might have a shot at being slightly untapped in the same way mewtwo is, they wont be winning tournaments but i can see some upsets in the future.

    • @boxob093
      @boxob093 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I use chrome, no issues here

    • @Krix08
      @Krix08 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      firefox my beloved

    • @HellCat_Kenny
      @HellCat_Kenny หลายเดือนก่อน

      >using chrome
      ISHYGDDT

    • @PolDlokay
      @PolDlokay หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree. Hbox solely carries puff

  • @Societyman123
    @Societyman123 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Captain falcon underrated

  • @soloconnell34
    @soloconnell34 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mewtwo should be 14 in the c tier, but I agree that all these 13 should be there. Mewtwo is the answer to falco that link is the answer to marth

  • @PolDlokay
    @PolDlokay หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There has been potential for Bowser lately.

  • @KaitlynBurnellMath
    @KaitlynBurnellMath หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    If the list is based on solo-maining, I don't think adult link would be 14th. Yes, he can counterpick one or two characters, just like young link can counterpick one or two characters (Armada's YL vs Puff). But from what I understand adult link has a miserable overall matchup spread.

    • @TheTechnopider
      @TheTechnopider หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Link is substantially better against fastfallers than younglink is. That, plus being good vs marth and a lot of the midtiers, actually gives him a much better matchup spread than YL who is actually IMO is SIGNIFICANTLY worse vs spacies

    • @ln8496
      @ln8496 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Young link has a much better recovery in thether>walljump>upb.
      But all of his moves are significantly worse than links. Link has very good moves he’s just dumb slow

    • @youri7229
      @youri7229 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also, both armada and hungrybox agree that puff probably wins the YL-Puff matchup but hungrybox was just inexperienced in the matchup and melee was a less developed game in general. Link is definitely the stronger character all around, Young Link just doesnt kill consistently outside of N-Air :(

    • @TheTechnopider
      @TheTechnopider หลายเดือนก่อน

      @youri7229 Although yl nair DOES go crazy but its very overshadowed by the tomfoolery that is links nair.
      they are both incredible but yl's is just incredible in a more traditional way

    • @youri7229
      @youri7229 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheTechnopider lmao at Link's nair literally not having the ending checkpoint flag and thus his limp legs can still deal damage. Melee is so awesome.

  • @YauDerAllerEchte
    @YauDerAllerEchte หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Absolutely forgot about G&W as another character to look out for
    Other than that pretty much agree with the Tier List except for a few nitpicks, well done

    • @LHSMeleeClub
      @LHSMeleeClub หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gnw shield holds him back from greatness tho :')

    • @YauDerAllerEchte
      @YauDerAllerEchte หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LHSMeleeClub
      I know. He would be at least High Tier with good Defense in my opinion. But still, I think his great offense with his huge disjoints, his edgeguarding, his combo game on fast fallers and his top 5 recovery still make him underated in todays meta

    • @ln8496
      @ln8496 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It has absolutely nothing to do with his shield. Dk, g&w, and the chus have no tech roll. They dont go anywhere. Pika can mitigate this by having an actual better tech in place than everyone else. Dk kills you when he touches you and he has good movement. G&w kinda just eats shit when hes knocked down

  • @michaeltallafs7731
    @michaeltallafs7731 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Sad to see peach go from 4th in your 2014 tier list to 8th

    • @iZergCraft
      @iZergCraft หลายเดือนก่อน

      Recent(ish) tournament results fuel people perception of the cast. If not for Mango actually coming back into form, you might see Falco drop a position as well

  • @verbatim7508
    @verbatim7508 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Now my friends can't say Melee sucks because "half the roster isn't even viable" lol

  • @nwin4426
    @nwin4426 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Link mains rise up

  • @benjoleo
    @benjoleo หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I think Marth should be below Falco. Falcon, Pikachu, Yoshi and Sheik all seem much harder for Marth than for Falco and I think those matchups are important enough to outweigh Marth’s better Fox-Matchup

    • @TheBeggies95
      @TheBeggies95 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You get it. Marth is 3rd. Falco is 2nd. But keep in mind, most lists are from spacies perspectives, they tend to ignore Marth weaknesses

  • @CatFighterForce9
    @CatFighterForce9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you for the positive content hax, ur a legend m8

  • @Exl6243
    @Exl6243 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If Axe becomes dominant again, Marth would probably move down the tier list by maybe one spot, and Jigglypuff up by one spot

  • @Anybanks
    @Anybanks หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think this is the first time we have the exact same tier list, maybe it's a sign I've grown as a pplayer

  • @tkienjoyer
    @tkienjoyer หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    redxlink thinking his main is s tier if not top 1. (I don't sgree with it but you gotta respect the optimism)

  • @hylianmango8272
    @hylianmango8272 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    WE GETTING AN ADBLOCKER WITH THIS ONE 🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥

  • @ArtemisGlitch
    @ArtemisGlitch หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    GAME AND WATCH

  • @10Gpixels
    @10Gpixels หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Link will make it. I believe

  • @alexanderlane7863
    @alexanderlane7863 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I actually think DK could go up next to pika, possibly right Infront of him, but I can understand pika being ahead because of slipperiness and speed

  • @OmniAndro
    @OmniAndro หลายเดือนก่อน

    This year is DKs time in the sun; but my man Link is coming up!

  • @SharurFoF
    @SharurFoF หลายเดือนก่อน

    The problem with Roy is that there's no reason to pick him over Marth. If you're going to have a Roy secondary, it might as well be a Marth secondary unless you're Zain and you just like to mess around. So realistically he'll probably always be underdeveloped.

  • @redwarrior118
    @redwarrior118 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    DK might be better than Pikachu right now. DK does way better vs Fox than Pika does and has only one crippling matchup in the above tiers (Sheik) compared to Pika (Jigg, Peach, ICs). How DK does vs Peach is still unexplored though

    • @jebril
      @jebril หลายเดือนก่อน

      I main Peach, I think its slightly Peach favored but she doesnt dominate it like people think. She has great combos and neutral against him and can easily shield poke and pressure him but once he gets in he can destroy her with the cargo throw combo and easy kill set ups on her. Also his BAir is low key like Jiggs on her it’s so hard to space around sometimes.

  • @augustinius6586
    @augustinius6586 หลายเดือนก่อน

    link over doc for the possible 14th spot is crazy.

  • @tuckerovermann6635
    @tuckerovermann6635 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if we played that you had to split your 4 stocks between two characters?
    You pick the order they appear, blind to your opponents order

    • @tuckerovermann6635
      @tuckerovermann6635 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ooh or maybe we assign a point value to each tier and have a point limit.
      So you could have one stock of S tier and 3 stocks of C tier.
      Vs. 4 stocks of B tier.
      Or two stocks of S, two stocks of D

  • @Ghoats
    @Ghoats หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    genuinely surprised why people thought so low of link and roy for so long. there is no universe where mario is better then link and roy is right above pichu

  • @astrojunkey
    @astrojunkey หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hax made this video for the sole purpose of saying Leader of the bunch, you know him well

  • @relentlesszard8166
    @relentlesszard8166 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mewtwo, Link and Samus are all underrated. (Roy was too)

  • @slippy318
    @slippy318 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't see Luigi being more viable than Doc and the Links in the current meta.

  • @INSANECRAZYHODAPP
    @INSANECRAZYHODAPP หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I just don't see Ics being viable, just people being bad

    • @ln8496
      @ln8496 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I found you

    • @ln8496
      @ln8496 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Insane carzy guy from smash boards

    • @INSANECRAZYHODAPP
      @INSANECRAZYHODAPP หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ln8496 I recently made a pretty cool combo video if You'd wanna check that out

    • @TheBeggies95
      @TheBeggies95 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ICs benefits a lot of people inexperience in the MU

  • @dominater5
    @dominater5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    dr mario is definitely viable imo.

  • @kupaxykalee4454
    @kupaxykalee4454 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He’s finally back to kick some tail 🦍🦍🦍

  • @ImWeirdBoy
    @ImWeirdBoy หลายเดือนก่อน

    Much love.

  • @DrFate-dd7ek
    @DrFate-dd7ek หลายเดือนก่อน

    I kinda feel like Marth and fox could be in SS tier, but that’s splitting hairs I guess

  • @Rynopb
    @Rynopb หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think mario needs a little love. Some top player needs to push his meta. I think he is really good .

  • @AbefromanGW
    @AbefromanGW หลายเดือนก่อน

    this is a very good tier list but why on earth wouldn't you just edit in a black bar to cover those ads at the bottom lmao

  • @jpetrullo6890
    @jpetrullo6890 หลายเดือนก่อน

    NEVER GIVE UP HAX 🔥🙏🙏🙏

  • @FullTimeWilly
    @FullTimeWilly หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hell yeah roy mentioned

  • @PalPlays
    @PalPlays หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don't forget IC's abysmal Yoshi MU. They get destroyed by the next three characters above them. Their good MU against Marth doesn't save'em.
    You alluded that Marth/Yoshi was even. Did I get that right?

  • @Kawaiilolrofl
    @Kawaiilolrofl หลายเดือนก่อน

    Falcon should be in S tier, but otherwise it's looking fine

  • @lguy8476
    @lguy8476 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why does DK look like he's getting arrested in the thumbnail lol

  • @DoctorHazy
    @DoctorHazy หลายเดือนก่อน

    Surprised by no Gannondorf...

  • @duckbert3314
    @duckbert3314 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What's your opinion on Mewtwo? Because in my opinion I think he's underrated.

  • @cjfast11
    @cjfast11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ganon has untapped potential imo but i see the link yl arguments

  • @xbox7912
    @xbox7912 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can someone please explain, if Falco is so similar to Fox, then shouldn't they be right next to each other, then Marth?

  • @Singleparentof20000
    @Singleparentof20000 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just crop the website

  • @r84nf04n5937f423
    @r84nf04n5937f423 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Forgot link
    edit: I posted this before finishing the vid lmao my b

  • @heterodoxagnostic8070
    @heterodoxagnostic8070 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Didn't junebug say that both him and axe agreed that DK wins the matchup against pikachu? for that reason, i think DK should switch positions with pikachu.

  • @MrPomegranX
    @MrPomegranX หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Hax, you had a rank set fighting the Mario "A Rookie" who I think is considered one of the best Regular Marios
    What did you think of that set?

  • @Elivoltek
    @Elivoltek หลายเดือนก่อน

    Everybody sleeping on Ness. Someday Ness will be as refined as DK or Yoshi I believe

    • @WesleyFiles
      @WesleyFiles หลายเดือนก่อน

      How your comment finds me: 😴

    • @yobobby9
      @yobobby9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Naw i stay sleeping. He has a bottom 3 recovery in the game, just back throw and throw out any hitbox or get hit by his up b.
      His ground attack dont beat CC, his aerials get outranged and his special moves are bad. He just has yoyo/thunderjacket and a combo game better than Zelda, Kirby, Bowser. Pichu is better than him imo

    • @Elivoltek
      @Elivoltek หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@yobobby9 look up ness wallrides

    • @lotgxj9215
      @lotgxj9215 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Recovery is too bad sadly he would be great without it

  • @TastyLemon123
    @TastyLemon123 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good list

  • @Swampson1738
    @Swampson1738 หลายเดือนก่อน

    HYPE

  • @memeaficionado
    @memeaficionado หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wish there was more representation for the other almost viable characters. Big fan of watching any of the plumbers and Ganon. Interesting that you think Roy has lots of potential, brings me back to the "skilled roy" meme

    • @rachelivy9712
      @rachelivy9712 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think Roy gets bodied by every high/ top tier except spacies so I thought that was weird that he is potentially a mid tier. Those are important match ups to be good in but a character does have to be good against the cast to be good. I think if Zain was playing Roy all the time there would be about 10 non-spacie characters to use as a counter pick for people to pick up without much effort. However Mango has won tournaments by going only Falco because he had all fast faller brackets meaning he didn't have to think about warming up his fox for Marths/ floaties. Maybe Roy is the most likely to get good bracket luck because of how many spacie players they are even though think Doc, Ganon, Link and others are all just solidly better characters.

  • @skii_mask_
    @skii_mask_ หลายเดือนก่อน

    gotta switch to Firefox for ad blocker!

  • @supwithit
    @supwithit หลายเดือนก่อน

    Am I crazy to think Marth/Fox and Marth/Falcon are both 50/50?

    • @TheBeggies95
      @TheBeggies95 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Marth slightly lose both MU imo

    • @rachelivy9712
      @rachelivy9712 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no that's a very reasonable take

  • @Perc1000
    @Perc1000 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    sorry hax but armada didnt become the greatest melee player of all time for you to put peach in B tier

    • @catandfishfc
      @catandfishfc หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Armada is our mid-tier hero!
      I think if Armada never quit he'd be going Fox/Peach around 50/50.

  • @ln8496
    @ln8496 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Roy has a few workable top tier matchups but he has like way more completely unplayable ones. I actually think ganon/climbers vs roy are the worst matchups in the game, worse than bowser sheik. And it might not be close in comparison. The ganon chaingrab on roy is just as bad if not worse than sheiks on bowser.

  • @MUGEN64
    @MUGEN64 หลายเดือนก่อน

    good list :)

  • @lorenzoricci4551
    @lorenzoricci4551 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How can Falco be S when no one other than Mango won with him?

  • @Haywire5714
    @Haywire5714 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    only cody can make fox work tbh

    • @holyknightthatpwns
      @holyknightthatpwns หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      People have been making fox work for decades, and Mang0 could make it as a fox solo again if he wanted to. Terrible take

    • @TheBeggies95
      @TheBeggies95 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Awful take, 33% of the top 100 are fox players. Thats 1/3 of top players AND fox has the most representation in the top 30

    • @trademarked2476
      @trademarked2476 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TheBeggies95 also like, everyone has a fox, cant say that abt other characters.

  • @SBLPanda
    @SBLPanda หลายเดือนก่อน

    GOATTTTTTTTTTTTTT 🐐🐐🐐

  • @johawk360
    @johawk360 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    lets go hax

  • @stradeup207
    @stradeup207 หลายเดือนก่อน

    CONTENT

  • @avantchop
    @avantchop หลายเดือนก่อน

    y is luigi so much better than doc? especially with franz's results and doc lee

  • @saulgoodguy1840
    @saulgoodguy1840 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No way youre putting dk below ICs and pika

  • @nickmayer1651
    @nickmayer1651 หลายเดือนก่อน

    but where's giga bowser?

    • @ln8496
      @ln8496 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Getting knee>falcon punched as a true combo. Unviable

  • @yobobby9
    @yobobby9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imo it goes:
    S: Fox, Marth
    Fox is even or + on whole cast, he is on any stage.
    Marth is 55:45 on Fox in Bo5, Even or winning on anyone else. But for Sheik who he is 44:55 with. So basically loses 1 MU but Wins against the best character.
    A: Falco, Jigglypuff, Sheik
    - Falco is 50/50 against Fox and Marth, but has a slight disadvantage on some stages. He could slightly beat Puff and definitely beats Falcon. Otherwise he is 50/50 with everyone else in top 8, he is basically A+.
    - Puff beats Sheik, so she goes ahead of her but they are pretty much tied for 4th.
    B+: Falcon, Peach, Yoshi
    Hot take: Falcon is 6-4 against both spacies, it is uncommon for him to get lamed out by them. He losses to Sheik 45-55 as well. Against Marth and Puff he is 50/50 and beats lower tier characters except for Chu. Falcon is basically B+.
    - Peach goes 50/50 with Falco and Falcon, but every other MU is slightly losing. Yoshi doesn’t really win any MU’s, but losses 3 for sure.
    B: Ice Climbers, Samus - Pikachu, Luigi-Doc
    -Icies beat Sheik, Pika and Doc. They lose to almost everyone above them.
    - Samus who is tied with Pika, goes 55:45 with Fox. Does okay into Marth & Peach depending on stage. Does not totally lose into Puff & Sheik. However, does lose to Falcon and Falco. While Pikachu goes even with Marth & Falcon. Does okay but losing to Falco and Sheik. But he gets destroyed by Puff, Icies, Peach and Fox.
    - Luigi and Doc are kinda opposite of eachother MU wise. In MUs like Fox/Falco, Marth/Sheik, Falcon/Puff. One is good and the other is bad. They lose to everyone in their tier except Pikachu.
    C: DK, Mario, Gannon, Both Links
    DK is bad when behind in stocks almost like puff. Once people figure out safe, non cc able approaches and edge guard setups for his character he will end up around here. The rest is self explanatory, this is the pocket pick tier, they only have 1 good top tier MU and 2-3 decent high tier MU.
    D: Mewtwo, Roy, G&W
    Pretty much, good character but “fatal” flaw tier. I think M2 has the highest potential due to his execution kinda like DK’s meta but way harder. Roy does good into spacies for this tier, bumping him up. G&W does good into floaties who arent peach or icies.
    D-: Pichu, Zelda, Ness
    Pichu has the best punish game here and recovery. He’s defensive game is poor but has a good ledge dash, shield and small hurtbox. Zelda > Ness due to recovery since ness is basically like lil mac when it comes to edgeguarding.
    F: Kirby, Bowser.
    Kirby is actually bad, if just punish roll in up tilts and know how to edge guard him due to his low air speed. Bowser is pretty much unplayable except on Yoshi’s, which will be banned in bo3s.

  • @kylemanley915
    @kylemanley915 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Luigi beats Samus

  • @alexanderespinoza
    @alexanderespinoza หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    im gay

  • @Wishael
    @Wishael หลายเดือนก่อน

    why isnt puff S tier?

  • @CollynsTV
    @CollynsTV หลายเดือนก่อน

    hax ma boy

  • @bobrze
    @bobrze หลายเดือนก่อน

    ublock origin

  • @iHealix
    @iHealix 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    W

  • @David-eo5ik
    @David-eo5ik หลายเดือนก่อน

    🎉hax$ babyyy

  • @lotgxj9215
    @lotgxj9215 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🎉

  • @RiqMoran
    @RiqMoran หลายเดือนก่อน

    dont show this to leffen

  • @orionparsons7631
    @orionparsons7631 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I would genuinely love to see link and DK (low tiers in general) go far in the current meta i honestly believe DK has A tier potential or possibly even S

  • @murlock792
    @murlock792 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Joke video
    Forced to watch ADS
    Weird tier list

  • @NiekloLaarman
    @NiekloLaarman หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dk better than doc, luigi and samus is so just a bad opinion.

  • @lotgxj9215
    @lotgxj9215 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice haha

  • @PolDlokay
    @PolDlokay หลายเดือนก่อน

    Unlock origin

  • @5gods
    @5gods หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dorf, Doc, and Luigi where??

  • @hvndal7662
    @hvndal7662 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    #FreeHax

  • @tomoflathead
    @tomoflathead หลายเดือนก่อน

    noice