Medieval Contact: China meets Africa

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    Booming cities on the eastern coast of Africa come in contact with dynastic China in the 8th century. For centuries, rumors and sporadic contact bring the two distant worlds ever closer. Then, in the 15th century, Zheng He leads a massive expedition to Africa. This is what he saw.
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    Jinyuan, G. (1984). China and Africa: The Development of Relations over Many Centuries. African Affairs. African Affairs, 83(331), 241-250. doi.org/10.2307/721561
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    Nuwer, R. (2013, March 15). Six centuries ago, Chinese explorers left this coin behind in Africa. Smithsonian.com. Retrieved August 31, 2022, from www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-...
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  • @HistoryDose
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    • @AMP3DUPASIAN
      @AMP3DUPASIAN ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Any chance yall could make a video on the korean dynasties?

    • @ELS-tone
      @ELS-tone ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I can't believe it's just two of you. From the writing, voiceover, & the one-of-a-kind artistry, I would imagine a whole team

    • @ronaldneal387
      @ronaldneal387 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Another great job 👍💯

    • @JP-br4mx
      @JP-br4mx ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey can you also do mythology or more Haitian histories

    • @GeorgeRamsey22
      @GeorgeRamsey22 ปีที่แล้ว

      This stuff is even more impressive when you realize its a team of just 2 making it.

  • @hornerfarah2282
    @hornerfarah2282 ปีที่แล้ว +2313

    Fun fact: The first African Ambassador to China Came from Mogadishu.
    It's bizarre how city like Mogadishu was overlooked in term of history even though they used to be the metropolis where people all around the world used to come to Mogadishu for trade since it was one of the Indian ocean trade road and one of the greatest city in Africa during medieval times. The fact that you can find ruined castles and Ports dating back to that period just shows how Prosperous the city was

    • @miguelservetus9534
      @miguelservetus9534 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Why do you say that the city is ignored? It is well known throughout the world.

    • @TheBushrangianOrder
      @TheBushrangianOrder ปีที่แล้ว +39

      The Arabs did a lot of great works in the area.

    • @hornerfarah2282
      @hornerfarah2282 ปีที่แล้ว +227

      @@miguelservetus9534 it's not that well known in our time. The fact is I learn about this information when I did history search in this city. You can find this mostly in Wikipedia but it's rare to find videos in TH-cam talking about this city comparing to other African city

    • @kappa3399
      @kappa3399 ปีที่แล้ว +336

      @@TheBushrangianOrder what arabs lol somalis built that city and madenit what it was

    • @TheBushrangianOrder
      @TheBushrangianOrder ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@kappa3399 It is my understanding that ancient Somali and Egypt were of an older ethnicity that is not around or known anymore. They built the spice trade in ancient Somali.
      But most of what exists of Somalia today is the result of the Arabic/Muslim slave and ivory trade.
      Correct me if I'm wrong.

  • @Jobe-13
    @Jobe-13 ปีที่แล้ว +1931

    These interactions between worlds is so fascinating

    • @fidelio9301
      @fidelio9301 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Like when china tried to find Rome

    • @ortox409
      @ortox409 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      They are the human spirit in its essence , to unify man under our passions and beauty. East and West is merely where our hearts lie , their stuff and wonder is synonymous throughout. All speaking in different languages yet the exact tone .

    • @davefekete7187
      @davefekete7187 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ortox409 what?

    • @TylerSolvestri
      @TylerSolvestri ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Civilizations*

    • @imperialhistati2348
      @imperialhistati2348 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      This is unalterated history my friend…

  • @dragonballsuper1519
    @dragonballsuper1519 ปีที่แล้ว +812

    In medieval cities of Somalia like Mogadishu, archaeologists have recovered coins dating back to the Song and Ming Dynasties, as well as coins from medieval Vietnam, Sri Lanka, Egypt and Venice, while Somali coins have been discovered in modern Turkey, Dubai and Iraq.

    • @jeze8346
      @jeze8346 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Interesante! Where can I read more on this?

    • @dragonballsuper1519
      @dragonballsuper1519 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      ​@@jeze8346 COINS FROM MOGADISHU, c. 1300 TO c. 1700 - by GSP FREEMAN-GRENVILLE · 1963

    • @jacobpeters3659
      @jacobpeters3659 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      I love this fact. The Horn of Africa and The eastern coast had a vibrant and prosperous relationship with Asia for centuries before the Portuguese landed ships in the Malaccas.
      Ethiopia specifically had relations with India and China for a long time before they shacked up with the Europeans

    • @dragonballsuper1519
      @dragonballsuper1519 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@jacobpeters3659 the Horn of Africa had a strong ancient link with the Greco-Roman world too, starting with Opone's trade with Mycenaean Greece and lasting as late as the Axumite-Byzantine Alliance against the Persian Empire.

    • @snowmoon7385
      @snowmoon7385 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice

  • @ronin3381
    @ronin3381 ปีที่แล้ว +943

    Zheng He is truly one of the most important yet often overlooked historical figures.

    • @arthas640
      @arthas640 ปีที่แล้ว +125

      I wouldn't say hes overlooked. the anglosphere is typically ignorant of chinese culture and history but you'll find tons of TH-cam channels with videos about him. I'd argue hes one of the more well known Chinese historical figures and his treasure fleet is one of the more well known parts of imperial chinese history outside of wars or dealings with Europe.

    • @Yusuf.i
      @Yusuf.i ปีที่แล้ว +4

      indeed.

    • @snowmoon7385
      @snowmoon7385 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hm

    • @josephjoestar995
      @josephjoestar995 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is that the guy from dynasty warriors 4

    • @topochijo
      @topochijo ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@josephjoestar995 That's a different person. Zhang He (Dynasty Warriors) was active during the three kingdoms period 3rd century AD. And this Zheng He is from 14-15th century AD. And although their names look similar, they use different characters altogether.

  • @muhammedalisuleman1731
    @muhammedalisuleman1731 ปีที่แล้ว +987

    The Arabs, Persians, Africans, Chinese all had contact, the silk road. They had huge respect for each other not only exhanging goods but also knowledge and ideas at libraries and universities like Timbuktu.

    • @The_Art_of_AI_888
      @The_Art_of_AI_888 ปีที่แล้ว +351

      And then the Europeans came.

    • @pass3d
      @pass3d ปีที่แล้ว

      中国人并没有像虚伪的欧洲白人那样,到处搞殖民地。

    • @WendyHarris14350
      @WendyHarris14350 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      @@The_Art_of_AI_888 Goddamnit😆

    • @mint8648
      @mint8648 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Chinese and perisan designs influenced each other porcelain

    • @dAbaPEsTA123
      @dAbaPEsTA123 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      China back then was the world's superpower. Everyone traded and was influenced by Chinese culture. Much like now with American culture and the United States as the modern world superpower.

  • @AMP3DUPASIAN
    @AMP3DUPASIAN ปีที่แล้ว +1615

    Your channel acts as a portal into another time. One of the few places where I actually feel like I am looking into the past. Thank you for reigniting my passion in history!

    • @HistoryDose
      @HistoryDose  ปีที่แล้ว +103

      Thanks! That’s something we strive to do.

    • @balazamon
      @balazamon ปีที่แล้ว +14

      this is what the history channel was suppose to be. thank you.

    • @vipr1142
      @vipr1142 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@balazamon Nah History channel is still good. Ya'll just bunch of casuals wanna complain about stuff

    • @meetdavis1029
      @meetdavis1029 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @vipr
      Chill we ain’t trying to
      Hear none of that…….
      SMFH

    • @alexanderkorol677
      @alexanderkorol677 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HistoryDose Can we have the isolated soundtrack for all the videos, please?

  • @blususpect
    @blususpect ปีที่แล้ว +783

    Imagine being the first Somali to set foot in Imperial China, all the stories, trading, & shock of the era must’ve been amazing to witness. The art direction in this narration beautiful.

    • @snowmoon7385
      @snowmoon7385 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ya

    • @lastzulu180
      @lastzulu180 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      You mean to be a Chinese and set foot into Africa and see the vast Glory of his temples cities and people

    • @tonylee5222
      @tonylee5222 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lastzulu180 swahili cities are just dirt pits compared to imperial china

    • @sleepyjoe4529
      @sleepyjoe4529 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@lastzulu180 lol you're funny

    • @samanth.
      @samanth. ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Zoomalia is poor

  • @razshirwa
    @razshirwa ปีที่แล้ว +221

    As Somali I thank you for presenting this forgotten history,

    • @abepresume8132
      @abepresume8132 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not forgotten. Just surpressed by ytttppl.

  • @ibrahimhassan711
    @ibrahimhassan711 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    Fun fact: Sa'id of Mogadishu is said to be the first African to ever translate Mandarin into a native African language such as Somali.
    Both languages influence on each other can still be seen today. The Mandarin word for Giraffe is the same as the Somali word for it since Giraffes are native to Africa and the Chinees would've first been introduced to them by the Somalis.

    • @ibizawavey8630
      @ibizawavey8630 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Contrast that with modern abdis acting like roadmen. wtf happened?

    • @David-bf5il
      @David-bf5il ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Giraffe in Mandarin Chinese is 长颈鹿 which means long长 neck颈 deer鹿. Does Somali word call it in the same way?

    • @ibrahimhassan711
      @ibrahimhassan711 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@ibizawavey8630 all types of things colonialism, foreign intervention, civil war, becoming the children refugees, identity crisis, traitors etc. being born in a foreign place In destitute poverty is enough to push anyone to crime. If you get hungry enough you will do what is necessary to survive, when it comes to self preservation and all that morality goes out the window. Besides a lot of children of those first gen are angry at the cards they were dealt knowing full well how their great grandparents lived, also having your nation of origin constantly slandered in the media doesn’t exactly help u feel “British” or whatever that is so you reject that label “British” and maintain your culture I remember I use to hate speaking English felt like I was whitewashing myself, I’d be in top set English speaking fluent Somali to my friends my teacher would get so irritated because she couldn’t understand us lol. Most Somalis in the west are now 2nd gen entering adulthood raised by their parents raised in Somalia while growing up in Britain. You are stereotyping a bit most Somalis don’t engage in “criminal behaviour” even though some do. But I feel if you compare statistically to other first gen migrants communities criminality levels are equal or less then for example south Asians in the 20s or Caribbeans in the 50-60s or west Africans in the 80s. Criminality usually peaks in the second gen of immigrants as they usually have it the worse time. First gen are to scared to break the laws as they don’t understand the system second gen understand the system but have nothing to lose and third gen chill out because they have shit to lose.

    • @The_Art_of_AI_888
      @The_Art_of_AI_888 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The Chinese just call the Giraffe as "Long Neck Deer"... So I don't really think the word necessarily originated from Somalis...

    • @xuchen4012
      @xuchen4012 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@The_Art_of_AI_888 ”Long nec deer“ actually is its modern name. In the history, it was called "Qilin" in Madarin or "kirin" in Japanese. I guess it might sound similar to the word in Somali.

  • @blessingmasawi3616
    @blessingmasawi3616 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    This fascinates me. In the early 1400s was when my people/ancestors, the Shona, were finishing building the Great Zimbabwe, which was the new capital of the Zimbabwe Kingdom then, while the Chinese were building the forbidden city, their new capital in Beijing, both world Heritage sites today, both States reached arguably their respective highest historical achievements at this time. At the time were Trading gold, copper, very likely Ivory or Rhino horn (and apparently maybe animals?) with China (and others, mostly Arabs) from the Great Zimbabwe Empire (later known as the Mwenemutapa Empire) through the Swahili city of Sofala who traded Chinese porcelain, as well as Both Chinese and Arabic cloth, glass beads and other goods with Great Zimbabwe (and it's satellite towns/centres).

    • @snowmoon7385
      @snowmoon7385 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmm.

    • @konmlahnsharba6946
      @konmlahnsharba6946 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's time for we Africans to take back what is rightfully ours, the world is depending on Africa to save guide the world hate it or love it

  • @josecabrera4902
    @josecabrera4902 ปีที่แล้ว +308

    Not many history channels do much on Ming China, so this was pretty great :D Hope you guys do something on medieval India and Ancient Greece, Rome, Persia, and Assyria as well
    Btw what is the music that starts at 13:00?

    • @HistoryDose
      @HistoryDose  ปีที่แล้ว +36

      A slightly slower version of "Way of the Warrior" by Yi Nantiro

    • @chacesimpson2856
      @chacesimpson2856 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      We need some west African civilizations too!!

    • @Facts-Over-Feelings
      @Facts-Over-Feelings ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chacesimpson2856 AFRICAN HISTORY IS THE LARGEST AND GREATEST AND THEY PREDATE EVERYONE

    • @PrinceOfDolAlmroth
      @PrinceOfDolAlmroth 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@HistoryDose Is there any chance you could post a link to this version of the song? It sounds far more somber and beautiful the way you edited it.

  • @ademzh
    @ademzh ปีที่แล้ว +121

    Thanks for this emergence of Far East worlds. As a Somali American learning more of my history, I found it pleasurable and educational.

  • @bfddefswagsweggwesgf
    @bfddefswagsweggwesgf ปีที่แล้ว +56

    There is also a Chinese bloodline in Lamu Island when a team of 20 Chinese sailors survived a shipwreck in the Indian occean, washing up on the shores of Lamu Island in 1415 CE which was one of the Swahili City States and married the local woman. Lamu Island is Kenya's 2nd oldest town (Mombasa being the first which Zheng He visited) and has been continuously inhabitted since the 12th century and is also the best preserved of the Swahili City States and continues to be an important center in Eastern Africa.

    • @sokhna-sl4fp
      @sokhna-sl4fp ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Watched this story in a Doc. There was a girl whose dna from thèse sailors, was offered Chinese purse to study Chinese médecine in China.
      Great how past and present are linked ❤

  • @SamOfSomaliaTV
    @SamOfSomaliaTV 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I live in Mogadishu and would love to dive extensively on these shores. Due to recent instability, not a whole lot of archeological work has been done and I can only imagine the relics on the beds of these waters.

  • @gustavovillegas5909
    @gustavovillegas5909 ปีที่แล้ว +245

    I’ll say it again: these videos are so insanely immersive. Love the fact that you touch on non Eurocentric history as well, wonderful stuff all around

  • @Sweet_Child
    @Sweet_Child ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I used to work in a museum in Mombasa (Fort Jesus). Chinese porcelain is there in mostly perfect condition. Thanks for the video! Amazing job. Keep it up.

  • @wooyyeah
    @wooyyeah ปีที่แล้ว +111

    The visuals and audio of this channel are absolutely awesome. Just to say, I'm a Baba Nyonya Chinese from Malaysia, meaning my ancestors came to the Malaccan Empire during this time and stayed. 600 years later, we're still here with a mixed culture of Chinese and local Malays. My Hokkien language is also mixed more than half with Malay words. A tradition and culture I'm absolutely proud of.

    • @pass3d
      @pass3d ปีที่แล้ว +11

      中国人那么早到达非洲,但并未像欧洲白人那样搞殖民。不同的文化、价值观。

    • @chillitopo2420
      @chillitopo2420 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Malaysia Boleh

    • @user-ue6ww6ut6j
      @user-ue6ww6ut6j ปีที่แล้ว +3

      明朝在东南亚设立过宣慰司,也算是殖民地吧,可惜满清丢了

    • @thembstrella4581
      @thembstrella4581 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do u mean that u are Baba Nyonya Chinese from Malaysia

    • @yumiyuki5851
      @yumiyuki5851 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-ue6ww6ut6j 那在哪里?公元1400-1511年的马来群岛完全由马六甲王朝统治

  • @Strat-Guides
    @Strat-Guides ปีที่แล้ว +446

    This was really good! I speak some Mandarin and nothing pisses me off more than lazy documentaries that don't try to learn how to pronounce names correctly. I can appreciate that you made the effort to learn them and they were very good! I remember watching a professional documentary (I think it was History Channel actually) and they completely butchered Wu Xetian, made me cringe every time they said it lol Thank you for all your hard work on the fine details like pronunciation. Beautiful paintings as always, I'm gonna see if my wife wants one up on the walls since she loves Chinese art :)

    • @HistoryDose
      @HistoryDose  ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Thank you! We'll have the art up in our store later this week :)

    • @Darkcamera45
      @Darkcamera45 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wow didn’t expect to see u here love ur bannerlord vids

    • @thehoboshack5253
      @thehoboshack5253 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just came from your Elon Musk video lol

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@thehoboshack5253 lol! Noice. These guys put out top notch content. I always stop working so I can watch when they publish something.

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Darkcamera45 Yeah man I watch everything these guys put out :) I tried to replicate some of their editing in my Amir Timur episode 1 intro, but holy crap did it take a long time! A couple minute intro literally took me 2 full days of work to complete lol I'll let these professionals do their thing and I'll stick to my numbers!
      Great to see you on their channel as well!

  • @Jordan-cs6bn
    @Jordan-cs6bn ปีที่แล้ว +123

    I’m speechless….this is legitimately one of the most well made videos I’ve ever seen on this platform well done!

  • @magellantv
    @magellantv ปีที่แล้ว +172

    Still hard to believe that this incredibly well-researched and well-made content is from just the two of you!

    • @bobswildoutdoors4297
      @bobswildoutdoors4297 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same here. These 2 gentleman made history enjoyable and informative to watch. Great job guys.

  • @views_by_mali
    @views_by_mali ปีที่แล้ว +234

    Rare to see any African related historical stories told that take place before European invasion. Thank you so much for this video😆😁🤩

    • @rediettadesse2828
      @rediettadesse2828 ปีที่แล้ว

      He talking about china Africa slavary it's bullshit ,
      there is not one person in china with black slave ancestor , Africa was not always slaves lies ,
      The Arab trade MOSTLY MAJORITY/80% included Europeans as slaves

    • @oliviamonteque6407
      @oliviamonteque6407 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      The Africans had the trade. The Europeans came and took Africans life, and took over the Trades.

    • @pro-tection9140
      @pro-tection9140 ปีที่แล้ว

      the Muslims had already invaded Africa centuries before Europe went to rescue Africa from Islamic colonization

    • @oliviamonteque6407
      @oliviamonteque6407 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@pro-tection9140 What do you mean "they went to rescue". They did no such thing! They went to CONTINUE THE EXPLOITATION!

    • @dominicfaison5889
      @dominicfaison5889 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@oliviamonteque6407 lol

  • @kevting4512
    @kevting4512 ปีที่แล้ว +404

    The story of Zheng He and his fleet will never ceased to amaze me. It signals the renewal of Han Chinese on the Dragon throne, the reopening of mercantile by the sea, and strength through diplomacy.
    But it also illustrated a lost opportunity for further maritime exploration beyond Africa and the Southern Pacific. As conservative opinion shifted away from foreign affairs. The CCP would raised Zheng He as a heroic Chinese who restored Han Chinese image abroad and brought the world closer through trade and diplomacy by naval power.

    • @admiralkaede
      @admiralkaede ปีที่แล้ว +24

      The ccp is still a problem tho

    • @cyborgchicken3502
      @cyborgchicken3502 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      In South Africa we have an ethnic group called the Basotho people, they splintered off from the larger Tswana people who came from modern day Botswana, they have this traditional attire where they wear these grass coned shaped hats called Mokorotlo that look very similar to the grass hats found throughout Asia and especially in China, I wonder if maybe either the Basotho or Tswana people got the inspiration from the Chinese, or if they maybe had contact with China in medieval times

    • @keshavtyagi948
      @keshavtyagi948 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@admiralkaede ccp have done a lot for its people, atleast better than most of governments. Only westerners and their slave countries consider them to be their enemy , because they are trying to challenge western dominance.

    • @VicmundLim
      @VicmundLim ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@admiralkaede how

    • @admiralkaede
      @admiralkaede ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@keshavtyagi948 lol NO it really isnt its horrible

  • @AnhNguyen-gk8hu
    @AnhNguyen-gk8hu ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Man I love the art work

    • @user-mg3zu3ej8t
      @user-mg3zu3ej8t ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Adolfizzz0 : This guys comment is longer than this video’s script..

  • @michaeldefeo3030
    @michaeldefeo3030 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    This is historically important. The Ming Dynasty made diplomatic overtures to a massive portion of the non-Western world. That's jaw dropping 😳

    • @user-cg2tw8pw7j
      @user-cg2tw8pw7j ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @tom suleman Except the Spanish pirates in the Philippines, to be precise

    • @BR0984
      @BR0984 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @tom suleman Europe and Asia had different environments. The whole reason for the European colonization was so that they didn't have to pay a high price for Eastern goods. The Chinese already had these goods.
      Hating Europeans incessantly is pathetic

    • @kensmechanicalaffair
      @kensmechanicalaffair ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BR0984 Europe is the one doing the hating.

    • @therealdeal2163
      @therealdeal2163 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@BR0984 there wouldn't be a hatred of Europeans if the Europeans where like the Chinese and came to Africa and the far Eastern lands to trade and learn and explore ...but history has shown us the European came to loot , kill, enslave and colonise that is why Europeans are hated ....

    • @myrnaa1077
      @myrnaa1077 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BR0984 Defending Europe is even worse, that was a dumb example u used in defense of Western Colonialism, what makes Europe think they have right to said goods, and also chinese can justify the same for western goods and do evil, but they didnt do said acts, as compared.
      European colonialsim is the worse collection of acts in history, filled with much EXTREME EVIL more than anyone has commited before

  • @o-wolf
    @o-wolf ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I remember this rapper poet artist named Akala saying they once found Chinese artifacts in Nigeria (&Nigerian artefacts in Asia if I'm not mistaken) there is sooo much history lost to war &colonialism I'd love to see epic movies on the level of The Last Samurai/The Kingdom Of Heaven etc based on ancient African kingdoms &Africa's interactions with the far east

    • @headshotmaster138
      @headshotmaster138 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So you mean We Wuz KANGZ N Shiet?

    • @o-wolf
      @o-wolf ปีที่แล้ว

      @@headshotmaster138 get a life

    • @samuraijackoff5354
      @samuraijackoff5354 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      A show on it might work. A lot of untold history can work as shows. The immortal Chinese monk traveling with an Arab guide to meet with the Khan as trails of the dead are left, in an attempt to convice Ghenghis that taking a life is wrong. The ancient cities of Africa and it's connections plus growth, and so much more.

    • @o-wolf
      @o-wolf ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@samuraijackoff5354 honestly there are SOOO many untapped angles.. we have the talent &the budgets.. just need the goodwill & impetus.. once a couple movies or shows like that takes off.. it'll be hard to stop the snowball rolling.

    • @myrnaa1077
      @myrnaa1077 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@headshotmaster138 Pink whtebois like to have their gfs and wives be BLACKED in front of them💕

  • @bananaborealis9515
    @bananaborealis9515 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Can we just appreciate how incredible these artworks are in the video? So detailed and realistic, brings the whole atmosphere of this video to a whole new level.

  • @KingDanny9
    @KingDanny9 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    This was an absolutely beautiful video. I learned so much from this. I visited China for a few months years ago, and was blown away by the hospitality of the people, and the beauty of their artwork. Many good times I had in China.

    • @applejuice9468
      @applejuice9468 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Minus the government and egregious human rights violations

    • @KingDanny9
      @KingDanny9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@applejuice9468 Well yes, I enjoy not having to use VPN in America. The harsh anti marijuana laws there also suck.

    • @tuna5305
      @tuna5305 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@KingDanny9 well they had bad experience with opium so you can't blame them

    • @ikeice7726
      @ikeice7726 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +100000 social credits👍👍👍

    • @BarryAllen__1A23
      @BarryAllen__1A23 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ikeice7726 There is no war in Ba Sing Se

  • @swongdong3378
    @swongdong3378 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    I love all the work and passion that is put into these videos it's very hard to find something like this elsewhere!

  • @vaultscribe4501
    @vaultscribe4501 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sound design and tone!!! I love the atmosphere. Honestly have wet eyes whenever your videos turn toward the purple tone of nostalgia, when the highs of history turn low I feel the inevitability and it’s excellently executed. Great work!

  • @mctuckey4475
    @mctuckey4475 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I watch all of the big history channels here on TH-cam. Your narration and artwork and just the order in which you present the information is top notch. In my opinion you have the best history channel on TH-cam. I look forward to your next upload, keep up the phenomenal work.

  • @adamgeigerjr6995
    @adamgeigerjr6995 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    how you mix commentary with the music/sound fx are amazing ... legit could just listen to this on a podcast but would be absolutely ROBBED of the stunning visuals ya'll create. this is crazy good content

  • @name4601
    @name4601 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This video has to be one of my favorite just with the art alone. Everything from the depiction of Mogadishu with Zheng He's massive ship in the background, to the city scapes of ancient china, and the terrifying depictions of battles is so amazingly beautiful that I can hardly put it in words. The music selection is also incredible at capturing the mood and scale of the events happening.
    Everything about this channel is perfect.

  • @SmallGroups2go
    @SmallGroups2go ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I am grateful for the studious presentation of information that doesn't exist in our memory in the West for Africans. I thirst for accurate history and that is without bias. I have a rare collection of books on Asia, however, there are always those who cannot imagine a word with the man from Europe.

    • @myrnaa1077
      @myrnaa1077 ปีที่แล้ว

      Western colonizers subvert history in their favor

  • @zora4527
    @zora4527 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Man this was strangely relaxing. I can’t imagine what it would have been like to be one of the sailors and see all those lands for the first time. It must have been truly magical.

  • @Kyrdrake
    @Kyrdrake ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Stellar production, I was transported for full 15 mins :) You should be proud of what you accomplished.

  • @michaelhenton159
    @michaelhenton159 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This channel is an absolute masterpiece. The writing and preparation done for these are second-to-none. I don’t know if the TH-cam algorithm will ever allow it, but these two guys deserve so many more subscribers. I will be liking and sharing to as many people as I can to spread the good word. Thank you for giving us the ability to view this for free.

    • @HistoryDose
      @HistoryDose  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much! This one is a little slow on takeoff, so your efforts are appreciated!

  • @joshywoshy2441
    @joshywoshy2441 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    You give detailed history on things no one else does in an interesting and entertaining way. Keep it up man

  • @benjaminsailer2159
    @benjaminsailer2159 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow! I am getting more and more impressed by your stories. The music makes it even more powerfull. It makes me want to see a whole movie, or a series about it.
    Thank you History Dose!

  • @bernardoohigginsvevo2974
    @bernardoohigginsvevo2974 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your channel is the only one I can think of on TH-cam that weaves facts with storytelling so well. Your videos really manage to capture the atmosphere of the times and places they depict.

  • @bjmccann1
    @bjmccann1 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    This entire production was both informative and artfully done. Bravo!!!

  • @timmyflapjack6350
    @timmyflapjack6350 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Another great video man. Worth the wait

  • @yannsteunou-murray6512
    @yannsteunou-murray6512 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Great history and expert storytelling, you always deliver!

  • @mvajuru7620
    @mvajuru7620 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is just phenomenal content man. Well done kabisa.

  • @Johtho
    @Johtho ปีที่แล้ว +2

    best scriptwriting/narration/animations ever for this type of thing, cant tell you i love you guys enough.

  • @backtobettertimes5864
    @backtobettertimes5864 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you SO MUCH for this content! It's amazing!

  • @goncalojones3474
    @goncalojones3474 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    As always, I find myself amazed at the quality of your videos. From the images and paintings, sound and music, narration and pacing, everything is perfect! I would love to see a video about the portuguese discoveries such as the arrival to Brazil and to India, as well as the conquest of Ceuta and sailing around Africa! Thank you!

  • @highly.not.likely
    @highly.not.likely ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are unbelievably good at writing and narrating. Hands down my new favorite history Channel. It really makes you feel like you are there.

  • @Shaby15v
    @Shaby15v 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is one of the least violent History Dose episodes! Yet it manages to be goosebump-inducing. It's super cool to see Africa portrayed as this fantastical, idealistic, and content land. Imagine seeing a giraffe for the first time after never knowing that something like it is even anotomically possible!
    I rarely buy it when people claim that any civilization before 1970 was happier than today's version; I'm big on modern comforts and medicine. But after watching this video, I think some areas of the 15th century Somalia region were likely happier than the country today.

  • @samuelgiraudo8748
    @samuelgiraudo8748 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you shining a light on this part of history. You two never fail to impress :)

  • @sharkballs4104
    @sharkballs4104 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I felt so good watching this video, the sound design, music and everything is just so perfect

  • @Xind0898
    @Xind0898 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The artistic value of this video is insane!!!! some image shots gave me goosebumps (combined with the BGM and the narration)

  • @turtlenugget15
    @turtlenugget15 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    For how much work you guys put into these videos I dont think you get nearly enough recognition these videos are amazing!

  • @callumjohnson7554
    @callumjohnson7554 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Easily one of the best channels on TH-cam, with this video being such a strong example of why. Fascinating content only enhanced by increasingly grand production. The sense of a narrative unfurling, not merely a recitation of fact, really sets you guys apart from other history channels.

  • @seandre9611
    @seandre9611 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    The way you easily navigate the English language, the beautiful artwork accompanied by the amazing sounds, genuinely transports me into the past. Amazing work as always.

  • @lucho4037
    @lucho4037 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This content is so amazing, keep up the good work!

  • @sebastianalvarez8872
    @sebastianalvarez8872 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for sparking a passion for ancient history🙏🏽I’ve always enjoyed history mostly world war’s and the Vietnam war buh recently been doing a lot of research into ancient history thanks to ur videos

  • @heisenstein6392
    @heisenstein6392 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    8:27 "That was Africa!" sent chills down my spine, amazing narration, editing, and music!

    • @toontown9854
      @toontown9854 ปีที่แล้ว

      Somalia really.

    • @zuesadam7143
      @zuesadam7143 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@toontown9854 isn't that the same thing?

    • @sahraabdulahi7996
      @sahraabdulahi7996 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@zuesadam7143it is

    • @visuali235
      @visuali235 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s Somalia a country in the African continent

  • @kayo5011
    @kayo5011 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is so wild to me. Thank you so much for this wonderful video

  • @melo7572
    @melo7572 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always, incredible art, music usage, everything. Love the direct primary source quotations, makes it feel so much more alive.

  • @_thomas1031
    @_thomas1031 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As always, another beautiful and tactful telling of this time period👏👏👏👏

  • @larshofler8298
    @larshofler8298 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fascinating history, great content (love all of your drawings).
    But many would put Ming China in the Early Modern period. In fact, Zheng He's sails were just decades before Portugal and Spain's maritime adventures.

  • @zenrick903
    @zenrick903 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    how is this free ? Amazing content ! the art, the narration, everything. Thank you really.

  • @jamalyusuf7679
    @jamalyusuf7679 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    These are always incredible pieces. Epic history told through master storytellers, win win.

  • @eltall5145
    @eltall5145 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The work put on is just beautiful

  • @yoyohighness
    @yoyohighness ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the narratives, dresses, ships and details in the background paintings totally reflect the history of Ming Dynesty China. Someone did very thorough research in the making this documentary, which is very rare by a non-Chinese production team

  • @martindurand5354
    @martindurand5354 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    As a former Chinese student, your history videos teach our history way better than any of our teachers ever did. Well done !

    • @cheungchingtong
      @cheungchingtong ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The story of Zheng He‘s imperial voyage is not even taught properly and thoroughly here in China, history class from middle school to college, got so many to tell, teaching each individual story happened in ancient China like this, is simply mission impossible.😭

    • @zhhaosh
      @zhhaosh ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@cheungchingtong 郑和下西洋你历史课没学过?
      没好好听课吧你

    • @cheungchingtong
      @cheungchingtong ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zhhaosh properly and thoroughly, dumb.

    • @axxxxxl1249
      @axxxxxl1249 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zhhaosh former student😒

    • @thegunner7887
      @thegunner7887 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@zhhaoshhahaha😂

  • @philliplyn2692
    @philliplyn2692 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loving this one thanks for sharing very information blessed love to all knowledge is power hopefully everyone pays attention keep up the good work 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲

  • @chaanthee2bros94
    @chaanthee2bros94 ปีที่แล้ว

    The story telling and the art work is perfect thanks for bringing back quality to TH-cam

  • @bosanskenaufalevic7370
    @bosanskenaufalevic7370 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Indonesian here, Admiral Zheng He is highly admired in Indonesia even until right now. I bet there's no Indonesian that doesn't know about him (Indonesian peoples know him as "Cheng Ho"). He brought at least 27.000 army with 307 fleet to Southeast Asia not to attack but to established a peace between two major races. He came with many gifts to Indonesian rajas(kings) in return of tributes but the biggest remnant of him is Islam. Now he is a legend, a symbol of tolerance between races in Indonesia. May his soul rest in peace in the afterlife.

    • @seanmikaeel90s50
      @seanmikaeel90s50 ปีที่แล้ว

      Salaam alaikum brother 🙋🏾‍♂️

    • @justineanastacio931
      @justineanastacio931 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's the difference between chinese explores,traders and navigators compared to euroassholes who's bringing nothing but a curse,hate and prejudice to whatever land they set foot on medieval era

    • @The_Art_of_AI_888
      @The_Art_of_AI_888 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yet Indonesian massacred so many innocent Chinese people living in Indonesia and never felt sorry or apologized for that. I wonder what Zheng He would've thought if he knew, in 500 hundred years later, his people got treated by the Indonesians like that.

    • @davidivory3234
      @davidivory3234 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL, he is not even a legend although some places in java established by the chinese during this period. My point is he is no one to our soceity. Islam must be erased, the return of buddhism in our land.

    • @davidivory3234
      @davidivory3234 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nonsense many majority of indonesians have no clue who Zheng He is, even in java the place Zheng He most visited in the entire southeast asia the people here are clueless about him.

  • @jakob9614
    @jakob9614 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    One thong that made me appreciate history so much more is realising how many things happened simultaneously. Not specific to this video it just reminded me of that
    Thank you for these great videos

    • @HistoryDose
      @HistoryDose  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, love finding history that completely changes my perception of different eras

  • @wimbardilaksono3147
    @wimbardilaksono3147 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    History dose always amaze me.
    We will watch your career with great interest

  • @spartan1010101
    @spartan1010101 ปีที่แล้ว

    The art, music, and the narration is just amazing. I could watch hours of these.

  • @Shinigami8143
    @Shinigami8143 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You two are my favorite channel for history. Vivid story telling paired with beautiful animation and editing. Not to mention the sounds intensifying it all. You are a blessing!

  • @Jattmafia313
    @Jattmafia313 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the only history channel that transports you into the subject of the video. I hope you work on some sort of VR history videos that immerse you into the story

  • @killingjoke535
    @killingjoke535 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love this channel!!

  • @syncmaster915n
    @syncmaster915n ปีที่แล้ว +13

    One slightly off topic but interesting tidbit regarding the nephew emperor whom Emperor Yongle overthrew. Legend is that he survived and escaped overseas, and his descendants gradually settled in France. One of the reasons Yongle sent Zheng He overseas was to look for this nephew, as was rumored at that time. Former France footballer Frank Ribery claims that his ancestry is from this usurped emperor.

  • @muhammadbilalkhan9870
    @muhammadbilalkhan9870 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best history channel.
    Top Quality!

  • @qingbusiness6713
    @qingbusiness6713 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Presentation was great, respect from Kenya 💪🏽

  • @imarioiv
    @imarioiv ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This channel is my current favorite. The graphics are INSANE and the storytelling is extraordinary! Is it possible to get the artwork as a wallpaper?

    • @HistoryDose
      @HistoryDose  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks Mario! There are prints available for purchase in the art store linked in the description, but Joe will also later upload downloadable versions to his ArtStation page here: www.artstation.com/joefly

    • @imarioiv
      @imarioiv ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HistoryDose I really appreciate it! Looking forward to all the great content you all are putting out!

  • @lumiam6982
    @lumiam6982 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Nice video! Just a quick reminder. Please distinguish the Somali coast and Swahili coast. Both coasts had different demographics and political structure. The Swahili coast were divided into city-states with significant presences of Arab, Persian and other African tribes from the interior. The Somali coast were under two central Somali governments. The Ajuran and Adal sultanates. The demographics of the coast were predominantly Somali with insignificant foreign presence.

    • @HistoryDose
      @HistoryDose  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thanks! We mentioned a Swahili-speaking and Arab-descended presence in Mogadishu not because those would have been native to the Somali coast, but because Mogadishu was a metropolis filled with traders from the Swahili coast.

    • @lumiam6982
      @lumiam6982 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@HistoryDose ​ That's very true Mogadishu was a metropolis hub in the medieval period. It was the largest and richest city in East Africa and one of the most important commerce and religious centers in the Indian ocean. It was known as the white pearls of the Indian ocean. What amazes me is that its rival was Zeila which was the second largest city in East Africa located in northern Somalia and was the capital of Adal Sultanate.

    • @ethiopia9011
      @ethiopia9011 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lumiam6982 Zeila city is not located in Puntland, state of Somalia, but located in Somaliland.

    • @mohaahmed3162
      @mohaahmed3162 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ethiopia9011 is zeila or somaliland in ethiopia? Don't talk about what you don't know

    • @ethiopia9011
      @ethiopia9011 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@mohaahmed3162 Zeila is an ancient port city in the Awdal region in the extreme northwest of Somaliland. Ethiopia is a country cut off from the sea, so Zelia does not belong to Ethiopia. You have to be quiet and learn world geography.

  • @Darkcamera45
    @Darkcamera45 ปีที่แล้ว

    The quality is impeccable love your videos

  • @fariwah4770
    @fariwah4770 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been waiting for a vid !! Thanks H.D!!

  • @bisharGellowMahad
    @bisharGellowMahad ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The Somali word for giraffe is still used in china,Korea and Japan

  • @conorwilliam2558
    @conorwilliam2558 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I had no knowledge of this fascinating part of history, I appreciate your dedication to research and commitment to make this video possible for us all.

  • @scootersachs9999
    @scootersachs9999 ปีที่แล้ว

    Literally had goosebumps all throughout the video! Fantastic narration/storytelling!

  • @Pfyzer
    @Pfyzer ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you so much for putting your sources as it helped me dig more interesting trivias about the past and how words and culture are exchanged

  • @ablackghostmyguy3741
    @ablackghostmyguy3741 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    10:10-10:30 idk why but this is hands down my favorite scene, u can feel the festival and pure happiness between two worlds

  • @corynn.l5146
    @corynn.l5146 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I hate how the government and schools don't teach us such history

  • @ebscoHOSTpub
    @ebscoHOSTpub ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. Informative and impressive as always. Thank you for shining light into areas of our human history that I would have been ignorant in another time if not for your team.

  • @zh2266
    @zh2266 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video is beautiful. Thank you for portraying history this way

  • @tylerperrow3680
    @tylerperrow3680 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I loved this episode. Very fascinating seeing two worlds collide! Could we perhaps see one on China and the Philippines and how they interacted with one another?

    • @rampage4695
      @rampage4695 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      we are interacting way before spanish came in in fact we have our own dynasties like tondo dynasty here in the Philippines

    • @obey4038
      @obey4038 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      South East Asia is part of maritime silk road

  • @jeffchad6481
    @jeffchad6481 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This is the right way to do it not the European way of death and colonisation

    • @KingDanny9
      @KingDanny9 ปีที่แล้ว

      So correct!!! If only the Europeans weren't so violent back then.

    • @mugikuyu9403
      @mugikuyu9403 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Western Europeans will storm this comment section to say “It Wuz A DIfFEreNt TiMe. eVEryONe rApEd AnD MurDeREd.” Yet here is Zhang He and the Chinese showing that you don’t need to brutalise people to get the trade goods you need out of them. Europeans did it because they loved blood and war not because it was necessary.

  • @Lancemoolied
    @Lancemoolied ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The art choices are great too. along with great information.

  • @danteduruisseau6854
    @danteduruisseau6854 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You do some amazing work. I am addicted to your videos and how well you narrate the stories of history.

  • @dakotac180
    @dakotac180 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I love that we are talking about other cultures in history more. I've been to Beijing, definitely interesting culture super deep history, too many dynasties. Africa will someday be next

    • @dingleberry4234
      @dingleberry4234 ปีที่แล้ว

      How were you treated?

    • @Abdikaiser
      @Abdikaiser ปีที่แล้ว

      No. Only nort Africans and horn of Africans. The rest of Africa was primitive beings

    • @makutumafwa7496
      @makutumafwa7496 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Abdikaiser If you paid to have that type of info, go ask for a refund. You deserve it.

    • @malcolmkamara7127
      @malcolmkamara7127 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Abdikaiser you never heard of the Mansa of Mali? The Benin Kingdom? The Ghanaian Kingdom? The Sokoto Empire? I can go on forever.

    • @silverking2181
      @silverking2181 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@makutumafwa7496 I think he's a troll. Don't give him consideration.

  • @steli9955
    @steli9955 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The art in this is breathtaking

  • @MegasReborn
    @MegasReborn ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible work as always!

  • @bboy1514
    @bboy1514 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ur the best history channel on the platform, keep up the good work!!.

  • @adewalemandeylah4974
    @adewalemandeylah4974 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Please do more African history your videos are so gooooddddd