Nice, I personally use a piece of tie wire for rural wire fences that i snipped off the make a sharp flat edge and bent it to shape so 😲 can feel the thinning of the brass. Cheap as chips, discard brass before it seperates 😉😜 Thanks for the video
These "tidbit" vids are excellent ! And hope to see more...even when it's about basic things you always either teach me something new or give me a different perspective...
I agree on all fronts... The only times I've had a case head separation is when I was pushing my brass to hard after to many firings. I watched a video on F-Class John's channel when he was showing that little line that appears on your brass once it's been fired and sized to many times. I also started to keep my brass in batches now so I know they've all been fired in the same gun and it allows me to keep track of how many times they've been fired. Ever since I started to watch for the signs and keeping everything in batches I've never had another case head separation. Great video as always keepem coming brother!!!
You and Sam provide by far the most intelligent data for us shooters and the equipment used/recommended does not dictate your choices. In other words, you are not a salesman for the various companies who make rifle equipment. My son and I both enjoy watching you and Sam, especially Sam calling your shots, shooting long range steel targets. Might add scenes of giant farm areas where you shoot provide all of us a bit different perspective of Australia. Wish I had visited Australia when I had the opportunity during Vietnam R&R.
A brass cleaning bush, pushed into the case neck, also works great. I used the tip of a cleaning rod that I shortened and bent to fit into my range bag, when a case separated I would screw the brush into the end of the bent cleaning rod and work it into the chamber to catch the case and pull it right out with no trouble. That is no longer an issue because I learned how to properly set up my sizing dies.
I have had more problems with primer pockets getting too big but I haven't separated a case yet (knock on wood) mostly with new brass some only after 1 reload , seems some of this brass is really soft. Thanks for another great subject and hope to see you out on the range soon.
Mark have you ever tried using a tight cleaning brush on a rod up into the case? That trick works like a charm. When you pull back the brush sticks in the case.
@@janne65olsson Works like a charm you just need a brush that will fit into the case when you reverse the direction the brush locks in tight enough to pull the case out easily.
@@markandsamafterwork No no, thank you I have learned so much from your videos. I have mad respect for your long range knowledge and ability, I am happy when I hit a prairie dog at 450 yards.
Whilst playing with some hot loads I noticed several pieces of brass had a light ring on them just above the case head. I decided it was best to 'retire' those cases rather than chance a stuck headless case. Besides, an extra 50fps wasn't worth the potential headache.
As you stated best to avoid the situation. To avoid round rupture I no longer use Wolf steel cased rounds as I have had two cracks part way around the rim and proved difficult to remove. Fantastic Information provided as usual.
Not just bottle-necked cases. I had a couple of 9mm cases separate in an AR-9, and they were buggers to get out. Picks, oversize brushes, Hoppe's... nothing worked. I had to use cerrosafe.
It’s also really bad when they get stuck in the sizing die. Like you said, best to cycle in a new lot after 4-5 firings or earlier if you notice that telltale ring in the weak part of the brass.
I watched a friend have a case head separate and not pay attention in his AR and next round didn't fully feed so he used the forward assist and it went in enough that it fired and what would have been really bad well could have he got lucky so just always if something don't go right don't force it make sure to check chamber if it's not going into lockup
I had that happen to me and my daughter out hunting. I had no clue what to do. My daughter said ""dad stick a bic pen in there"" luckily I had one. I pulled the bolt and put the pen in and it worked
The trick is, don't full length resize. Either neck size or partially resize and reduce headspace. Bump back the shoulder only one or two thousands of an inch. Me personally, I never full length size .only neck size and never had a problem. Even after multiple reloads.
_"The best way to get a piece of brass out is to not have it in there."_ So basically what you're saying is that we should just get muzzle loaders... Gotcha.... 😂😂😂 No, seriously though, great video! Wait, new video content for MarkandSam AfterWork... ELR Muzzle loader shooting!!!!!
I have been Hand Loading for 50 years and agree with you 100%! Great topic Mark, Thank you!
Thanks Titus, Cheers
Nice, I personally use a piece of tie wire for rural wire fences that i snipped off the make a sharp flat edge and bent it to shape so 😲 can feel the thinning of the brass. Cheap as chips, discard brass before it seperates 😉😜
Thanks for the video
Thanks Man
I enjoy this site, because Mark presents things so it is easily understood. This even applies to their shooting videos.
Cheers Lanny, thanks
These "tidbit" vids are excellent ! And hope to see more...even when it's about basic things you always either teach me something new or give me a different perspective...
Cheers Man,
I agree on all fronts... The only times I've had a case head separation is when I was pushing my brass to hard after to many firings. I watched a video on F-Class John's channel when he was showing that little line that appears on your brass once it's been fired and sized to many times. I also started to keep my brass in batches now so I know they've all been fired in the same gun and it allows me to keep track of how many times they've been fired. Ever since I started to watch for the signs and keeping everything in batches I've never had another case head separation. Great video as always keepem coming brother!!!
Thanks Daniel, Cheers
You and Sam provide by far the most intelligent data for us shooters and the equipment used/recommended does not dictate your choices. In other words, you are not a salesman for the various companies who make rifle equipment. My son and I both enjoy watching you and Sam, especially Sam calling your shots, shooting long range steel targets. Might add scenes of giant farm areas where you shoot provide all of us a bit different perspective of Australia. Wish I had visited Australia when I had the opportunity during Vietnam R&R.
Thank you Jeff, glad you like em, Cheers and all the best.
A brass cleaning bush, pushed into the case neck, also works great. I used the tip of a cleaning rod that I shortened and bent to fit into my range bag, when a case separated I would screw the brush into the end of the bent cleaning rod and work it into the chamber to catch the case and pull it right out with no trouble. That is no longer an issue because I learned how to properly set up my sizing dies.
Thanks Bud, Cheers
Thank you great tips 👍👍
Cheers
Professor Mark with another rifle 101 lesson!
Thanks Man
I have had more problems with primer pockets getting too big but I haven't separated a case yet (knock on wood) mostly with new brass some only after 1 reload , seems some of this brass is really soft. Thanks for another great subject and hope to see you out on the range soon.
Cheers Gary
I had a case separation in my AR-15, a chamber brush pulled it right out. getting the case off the brush wasn't as easy.
That works, thanks man, Cheers
Mark have you ever tried using a tight cleaning brush on a rod up into the case? That trick works like a charm. When you pull back the brush sticks in the case.
This one i will put in my remember/recovery list. 😊👍
@@janne65olsson Works like a charm you just need a brush that will fit into the case when you reverse the direction the brush locks in tight enough to pull the case out easily.
Probably the most common way from the comments, thanks Chuck, Cheers
@@markandsamafterwork No no, thank you I have learned so much from your videos. I have mad respect for your long range knowledge and ability, I am happy when I hit a prairie dog at 450 yards.
Whilst playing with some hot loads I noticed several pieces of brass had a light ring on them just above the case head. I decided it was best to 'retire' those cases rather than chance a stuck headless case. Besides, an extra 50fps wasn't worth the potential headache.
Yep, Cheers
Great info as always Mark, thanks. Cheers!
Thanks Mike, Cheers
Good info thanks
Thanks Bob, Cheers
Good information
Cheers Rob
I always learn!
Cheers Bill
Another great vid
Cheers
As you stated best to avoid the situation. To avoid round rupture I no longer use Wolf steel cased rounds as I have had two cracks part way around the rim and proved difficult to remove. Fantastic Information provided as usual.
Thanks Colin, cheers
Not just bottle-necked cases. I had a couple of 9mm cases separate in an AR-9, and they were buggers to get out. Picks, oversize brushes, Hoppe's... nothing worked. I had to use cerrosafe.
Cheers
It’s also really bad when they get stuck in the sizing die. Like you said, best to cycle in a new lot after 4-5 firings or earlier if you notice that telltale ring in the weak part of the brass.
Yep, Cheers
I watched a friend have a case head separate and not pay attention in his AR and next round didn't fully feed so he used the forward assist and it went in enough that it fired and what would have been really bad well could have he got lucky so just always if something don't go right don't force it make sure to check chamber if it's not going into lockup
Thanks Allen, Cheers
i had four separations on the last range trip. hornady brass five times fired.
Damn, Cheers
@@markandsamafterwork i went to pacific tool and bought their case extractor because i just loaded 300 rounds with those cases.
Good. Chears
Thanks Walter
Had good luck with epoxying another case into the stuck case if a brass chamber brush doesn't retrieved the stuck one.
Thanks Man, Cheers
I will put that one on my recovery list.
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I had that happen to me and my daughter out hunting. I had no clue what to do. My daughter said ""dad stick a bic pen in there"" luckily I had one. I pulled the bolt and put the pen in and it worked
Thanks Stirling, Cheers
The trick is, don't full length resize. Either neck size or partially resize and reduce headspace. Bump back the shoulder only one or two thousands of an inch. Me personally, I never full length size .only neck size and never had a problem. Even after multiple reloads.
Thanks Kim, yes can help in some circumstances, although doesn't suit or cure all, can sure suit some, Cheers
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_"The best way to get a piece of brass out is to not have it in there."_
So basically what you're saying is that we should just get muzzle loaders... Gotcha.... 😂😂😂
No, seriously though, great video!
Wait, new video content for MarkandSam AfterWork... ELR Muzzle loader shooting!!!!!
No thanks lol, Cheers
Hornady factory brass is thin and soft I reloaded it and stopped using it quick and went to Peterson which is far superior brass
Yep, Cheers
“The way to get it out is to not put it in there”
Hey Mark…. You can’t tell us you weren’t talking dirty there
Lol, cheers
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