How to Build Siege Defs? - Summoners War

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  • Of course, I know everyone wants me to tell them what comp and exactly how to rune it, but as explained in the video. that wouldn't work :( Therefore these tips in the video are what will help you and your guild best to improve on defenses :D
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  • @RafaelOliveira-ie7su
    @RafaelOliveira-ie7su 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Bruh i learn so much with u thats just impossible to express how thankfull i am, ur a necessary streamer for the sw community , thanks

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Really appreciate the comment!

  • @mariussim138
    @mariussim138 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you Master for the lessons! 😊

  • @aaronmartinez5607
    @aaronmartinez5607 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for the material. In the 20 minutes you spoke you said a lot of things. Is it possible to get a condensed bullet point list?

    • @ronlanders7354
      @ronlanders7354 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      U gotta take notes bro!

  • @sasukey1490
    @sasukey1490 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Question to the new AI Update:
    Our Guild is building Miyhang Cichlid Eshir and we are doing some on Vio and some on Swift. The Vio ones are Moving Cichlid -> Eshir -> Miyhang, but the swift ones u want Eshir to move first, but after around 60 Tests from different Guildies Eshir used S2 like 8 times out of all the tries. Was it just unlucky or is he using S3 after the Update just more often? And if is there a reason behind it?

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the def is very strong, but very rng depending on which skills they do yea.

  • @Msky228
    @Msky228 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello sei! Thank you for the video, in your opinion, are there any good defenses with the dark hell lady and the dark monkey in G3?

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      dark monkey is very hard to fit in, his kit often just doesn't do enough dmg to make him interesting enough on just a stunner.
      Craka is somewhat hard to fit in because she's often doomed by either the camilla team that i just showed or a sonia snipe. But you could build her as sonia counter maybe? And whats probably going to be meta is stuff with miyhang + 2 if you can find a team where she counters both camilla team, sonia, and leo. then ur pretty much in a good spot.

    • @Msky228
      @Msky228 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Seiishizo Defended by clara/dark monkey/theo, clara/dark hell lady, theo. But the results are disgusting, the idea is a random massive random def break and damage from theo, but it’s like it’s too easy to kill through camilla, windy. On paper the monsters are interesting, but there are no ideas at all on how to use them in terms of protection :(

    • @Msky228
      @Msky228 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Seiishizo miyhang, craka/monkey, wind mermaid?

  • @hanarker7750
    @hanarker7750 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what do you think about mihyang cichilid tesarion?

  • @moab1996
    @moab1996 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    9:10 isn't the enemy's turn order already what you recommended to be stronger?

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yea, but it's a def that has different options, which could make it better. however, the eshir didn't show that much dmg. that could have been better at this comp.

    • @klementyna227
      @klementyna227 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ken going for that juicy s1 on the first turn

  • @Wxrldend
    @Wxrldend 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i personally love my mimirr, dark&wind robo comb ...literally wins everything till g2
    Ps.: @seii i pulled vrita (dark asura) ..is eh any good or usable for siege def?

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      def not really, off might be useful because of the threat states

    • @unknown963_.-5
      @unknown963_.-5 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What's Ur build on mimirr n robos , what can't you take it into

  • @speculator191
    @speculator191 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    can you also show an example of how to rune it? and show the win loss records as well

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      moment i show how to rune specific teams, it will be countered right away. simply because of showing too much info.

  • @carlossernaballesteros3780
    @carlossernaballesteros3780 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I will learn a lot of your videos for prepare my team for Siege at basic level and then I will farm like crazy runes and artifacts for have complete stats, I recently ask in your server wich acc to buy and I decide for maxi elenoa combo for star learning, cause I think g2 on arena every week will help me with more free Cristal’s for keep farming a lot of dungeons for have a good account some day, thanks

  • @gabrielpl5261
    @gabrielpl5261 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello, do you have any idea about a cadiz def? Dont have seara for the raoq one :(

    • @gabrielpl5261
      @gabrielpl5261 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would like with theo but its rly tiana food then..

  • @Dark_aka_Leo
    @Dark_aka_Leo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    good topic!

  • @J_jae
    @J_jae 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sei, can you suggest a siege def that includes celia?

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      we ran some zeno celia deva's, its decent but nothing crazy good.

  • @palmon8973
    @palmon8973 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    13:40 but Sei, SeanB has like 100 leos in reserve...

  • @ttibaramser1608
    @ttibaramser1608 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Was expecting to learn what's strong for G1/G2/G3 def. I'm in G1 and one of my guildmate gave me two important advice :
    "In G1, our siege level rewards rng and vio set on tanky bruisers more than aggressive swift compo"
    "Don't invest too heavily in nat 4 def, 2 very good defs are enough for our level, nobody hits them compared to 5* tower"

  • @johannseifert8300
    @johannseifert8300 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My best pick is seara cp wind robo. Use that against everything that is cc-able

  • @Northern_Grace
    @Northern_Grace 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have 3 most common offenses. All 3 are also winning defenses. 1 of which, I will clarify, I was doing BEFORE the dark sniper HoH.
    1) Nephthys (L), Clara/Vereesa (depending on element)/Kaki. (18W - 10L Def.) - Cleave.
    2) Dragunov (L), Amarna, Fran (Fran, Amarna, then Dragunov. Sets up a 2-turn cleave with Dragunov on Vampire, so it acts as a budget Douglas. 12W - 5L Def.)
    3) The classic offense of Jeanne (L), Leo, Helena. (15W - 6L Def.)

    • @louistemple9909
      @louistemple9909 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What rank siege are you playing in?

    • @Northern_Grace
      @Northern_Grace 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@louistemple9909 mid G1. Very rarely if we hit a hard guild do we go borderline. Occasionally we hit just inside G2

    • @Northern_Grace
      @Northern_Grace 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@louistemple9909 But this account was also an alt of Furyn - a G3 Tourney player who farmed somewhat extensively on it before he gave it to me, so my rune qualities I would say are on par with at least mid G2

    • @ronlanders7354
      @ronlanders7354 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Surprised with the Leo def result, anyway nice job!

    • @Northern_Grace
      @Northern_Grace 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @ronlanders7354 Well, my Jeanne is on a double nemesis will trap, Leo is on vamp destroy, hp/cd/attk, and Helena is on a crit damage 0 speed build with 81% S2 accuracy including artifacts for AoE def break. So it tricks a lot of people.

  • @boartank
    @boartank 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hate bruising. If the fight lasts more than 3 mins I get apoplectic. Some tested and fast offense teams:
    1. Fran Loren +Theo/Beast Rider big boy single target dmg that doesn't get 1 shot. This team has a lot of variants
    2. Kashmir Daphnis Bastet/Megan/Wolyung
    3. Galleon Tiana + Kaki/big boy AoE
    4. Chloe + Twins on crack
    5. Susanoo Orion +1
    I also have 3 Windys, Bolverk Mo Long, Ashour Liu Mei Abello, etc. tucked in the back.

    • @LeniusRiven
      @LeniusRiven 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      One team I use is Dominic, Woosa, Yeonhong which has not lost an offense yet even against a 17-3 defense (Dominic Theo Molly). Yes, it's Yeonhong but Mihyang is literally better. Mihyang S2 into Dominic S2, kills something or gets them to

  • @BeefStewGaming
    @BeefStewGaming 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can I see your Grogen stats? I just pulled him and not sure what to aim for

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i have about 240-250 spd, 100 cr 200 cd rest all cd as much as possible

  • @raimundopilotto2675
    @raimundopilotto2675 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Most common ofense it's not creative at all, but Gemini Hraesvelg and Light Chun Li are awesome against "almost" anything.

  • @benjaminmesserer2471
    @benjaminmesserer2471 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    12:05 Why do I want Feng on a little bit of Speed? There is Leo in the comp

    • @ryuox
      @ryuox 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      bc leo getting oblivioned

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      exactly what @ryuox mentioned, in case of oblivion or leo death.

  • @TrueHunter999
    @TrueHunter999 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I cleared my guildie's tian lang defense with fast pace homie, kahli and fat lushen. Tian lang didn't even get to move lmao

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thats a very solid team yea. But then again Swift tianlang is a great trap against that ^.^

    • @TrueHunter999
      @TrueHunter999 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh yea for sure. Still haven't fought any tian lang defense that isn't from my guild. I use quite a bunch of offenses, mainly cleaves (Baleygr teon lushen, Galleon tiana Bael, Galleon Eshir Leah, Galleon Clara Kaki). I also use Bolverk Mo Long Amelia/Laima depending on the enemy team threats@@Seiishizo

  • @aryogmr97
    @aryogmr97 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    make counter team for siege but 2nd turn pls,

  • @TheJordanallen14
    @TheJordanallen14 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How much is AI taken into account when making a defense?

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hmm depends, if your thinking about perfect AI like clara, pretty much just that, but if you are thinking about dropping RNG armorbreak/aoe armorbreak and therefore switching off targets a lot

  • @thoments
    @thoments 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Can you organize your key points please? You tend to ramble on and on and it doesn't really go anywhere.

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      in this video, nope, since it's on the fly rather than by script :) this is also a very dynamic topic with many key points, because there's not just 1 answer.
      I understand that a whole bunch of you would like all the information in 1 small part of the video, and simply view that and skip the rest of the video ^.^ But on the other hand I would appreciate it if you guys watch the whole video.
      However, this is pretty much a dynamic topic. and if you feel it's not going anywhere, then it means that you are skipping through the video trying to find key parts rather than listening to the story. I notice this often by getting questions in the comment section about things that are explained in the video. even if the video is just 8 minutes and all key points. People still miss those parts.

    • @Kevin.E.
      @Kevin.E. 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lil hint : Put sustain/heal on ur def

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Not always needed, it depends on the comp

    • @R0m0n3
      @R0m0n3 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also 'let me tell you vaguely how to do things and say it's a guide'.

    • @mikaelcrucible
      @mikaelcrucible 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@Seiishizo i appreciate the longer content cause people don't seem to realize a pvp game is already not black and white, but with as much rng is in this game there's no single answer to anything. general knowledge like you put out is really nice!

  • @That_Borkin_Ninetales
    @That_Borkin_Ninetales 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well I'll humor it, but I have been enjoying Iselia, Luer, X

  • @brunoantkiewicz2207
    @brunoantkiewicz2207 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never lost with ayalah bolverk mo long

  • @andytpatt
    @andytpatt 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Doesn't win against everything, but I love claire kona elenoa. Have dupe elenoas so can do 2x

  • @krzysztofmazur245
    @krzysztofmazur245 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1st

  • @yeonhong342
    @yeonhong342 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:45. can’t Spoiler counter ? Then why you make videos and don’t wanna help at the same time ? That’s actually lost af lul

    • @Seiishizo
      @Seiishizo  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      because if i spoil exact counters, or exact defenses, it will be counter productive in the long run, because people will adapt to what i say and change their offs/defs based on it towards a step further than what is explained.
      However im teaching you here how to think of making defs rather than saying what to do exactly. As in this quote:
      Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and you feed him for a lifetime