Elon musk, Deepak Chopra's Metahuman vs Human | With Dr Tony Nader Part 3
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2024
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Elon Musk acquired twitter for 44 billion $ but what does that mean for all the user data? Apart from all the expectations of users regarding freedom of speech, the concept of cognitive speech and thought themselves come into question.
What will the algorithm do with all the user data? Will it create the next intelligence and sentient digital being? Deepak Chopra calls this a Meta Human . Will Meta Humans be alive or simply complex stimuli?
Timestamp:
00:00- Meta-Human/ Trans-Human/ Post-Human
06:45- Meta-Human vs Humans
15:06- Is AI sort of an yantra & who controls it?
21:08- Should spiritual people get involved with AI?
25:42- Conclusion
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Timestamp:
00:00 - Meta-Human/ Trans-Human/ Post-Human
06:45 - Meta-Human vs Humans
15:06 - Is AI sort of an yantra & who controls it?
21:08 - Should spiritual people get involved with AI?
25:42 - Conclusion
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Through the planet's darkest hours..... a candle.
From two great Souls
serving Humanity at it's most needful hour.
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I was first introduced to TM and Maharishi from watching Rajiv's videos. Its just been a few years and I am already a MIU student doing MS in Consciousness and Human Potential. I am grateful that I watched those videos and got inspired. Immensely proud to witness this colloboration.
Wonderful discussion! Yes, please do collaborate. This idea gives me hope.
Although really liked all the points, one particular made by Rajiv ji resonates with me the most. AI is a human attempt to produce yantras and the crucial ethical question is who will control these yantras. Our bodies are the yantras too, the grahas and ultimately the Devatas being in charge of them. Modern technology, as far as I perceive, mainly comes from the lower heavenly planets (as described in the Bhagavata Purana) where the life is all pleasure but without God, which means raksasa mentality. And THAT'S the main ethical problem: if raksasas start controlling the new created yantras (Meta or trans humans) we are in a great problem!
Dear Sir - It was absolutely a great discusions you had with "RAAM" Dr. Tony Nader... In fact I was following Maharishi snd listening to his great discourse on Vedic tradition and ultimately leading to ultimate Unity conciousness. Listened to Dr. Tony Nader, John Hagelen, Beven Moris and others through their Maharishi TV Channel. In fact, I made a trip to Vlodrop in Netherland when Maharishi was alive but unable to see to take his blessings... I wish that you could have some similar discussions with Dr. Hagelen and Beven Moris on these topics in raiding the awareness of AI and understand what thus could potentially do to the evolution of human conciousness as well as worldly conciousness. Truly, your association with them could add value on your pioneering research work that you do for Hindu Dharma and ultimately for a Hindu Renaissance for the better India and the World... Thanks very much Mr. Rajiv Ji...
Star Trek warned us about this with the Borg.
Mr Malhotra-ji thank you for all your amazing work and unparalleled knowledge into our human condition. Namaste from South Africa
Wonderful! Thank you for your insight.
Real fundamental questions have been raised in this deep discussion. The Consciousness of people who have developed and sustain their daily spiritual practice, their meditation evolves through their personal effort and Blessings. People who rely on external devices or AI and think these tools are a means for progress, are in fact accelerating their own process of entropy and increasing their addiction to illusory ways and means that lead to delusion. That's also part of the choice between Wisdom and Ignorance. Thank You for this wonderful research into Truth.
The proponents of AI want to give all good things we can have on the surface of life, which proponents of Consciousness also want. Yet by developing Consciousness through the simple, effortless process of transcending through the Transcendental Meditation technique, we will get not only the goals of AI but also have "an opportunity... to gain... the strength of unlimited, eternal, absolute Being and thus be powerful to the maximum extent possible"("Science of Being and Art of Living" by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi). It is so simple and COST EFFECTIVE to get a small percentage of our world doing their TM and TM-Sidhi program in groups to fulfill all our goals. The knowledge is available, let us use our "Can do" attitude and DO IT!
After a long time Rajivji is back. Is a boon for mankind
Unfortunately humans only learn from experience, good or bad - this is the choice that creates karma. This implementation of transhumance technology may be one of the most tragic lessons humans learn. Wonderful discussion which the biotechies would benefit from hearing if they would listen.
I really like wisdom in dr tony nader,it is really rare someone like tony nader
Superb questions asked by Rajiv Ji and equally amazing answers. Though would love more free flow of words without sounding diplomatically correct
All bets are off. This changes the game completely. All you have to do is install a linear generator vertically, underwater. Weight makes magnets sink, generating current. Then, with a small amount of energy, the magnet container expands, causing it to float back up, making more electricity, 24/7. Or a small blast of air, to empty ballast tank, will also do the trick. No fuel, wind, or sunlight needed. Energy used to change density of container is 100X-1000X less than generator produces. At the top, the container contracts, or air in tank is replaced with water, to make it sink again.
The western quick fix instead of the slow eastern tapasya. Earlier LSD, then other drugs, more powerful,like heroin, now bionics. What one attains from within can NEVER be replaced by the limited pleasures from without, just labelling it Ananda, cannot make it Ananta Ananda
awesome
Grateful for Insights...
May all sentient beings be at peace,
may no one suffer from illness,
May all see what is auspicious, may no one suffer.
Om peace, peace, peace. 🙏
Amazing! But it will not work for 98% of the audience but you yourself know that. The fact is that Tolle's "Pain Body" turns out to have a physical body too, which works reflexively, automatically and constantly! You must discover it in yourself first!
Rajiv ji, a great and very stimulating topic. I am not at all a physicist nor have had much science background, but have a very ...very vague idea of quantum mechanics and its relation with human spirituality which I think is purely influenced by the energy manifestation or quantum wave function - quantum physicists call it that way if I understood them right 🙂. You as a physicist yourself ... I request you to Please clarify on my ignorant observation / question below ...
Please trash the below if it doesn't make any sense and pardon my lack of proper insight in this area.
I think the Meta human or AI-human will all be a resultant state of external stimuli using common data pattern in a closed loop alogorithm that still falls and deals with Matter or material or classical physics -- observed states.
But, spirituality and consciousness from my ignorant understanding purely is quantum behaviour or electromagnetic / gravitational forces / energy fields ... oscillating in various frequencies and will be in a state of flux until observed or experienced by consciousness. Perhaps, as you know, sometimes E=MC**2 may not fit perfectly with quantum mechanics observations.
How about equating the particles behaviour in a wave pattern / function - state of energy vibrations or a state of flux where everything is a probability / illusion with that of the spiritual pursuit where we may say "I am not this body and i am not this mind" ( like for e.g. either the cat is alive or dead in Schroedinger cat experiment scenario) ,- May be in the state of "Agnamaya kosha". And, physicist say the wave function collapses when the observer observes it to become particles or its position on the probability wave function for a known state for itself (observed or realised state) - this, my ignorant logic says where the consciousness observes or experiences the union of athman with the purush or perhaps the state of being in or at singularity???? - Anandamaya Kosha, that is???
Isn't consciousness universal ??? and a wave function as theorized by quantum physicists? - The ultimate observer of the observed or the experience? If so, will meta human or AI human stimuli be in that state, ever? If consciousness is something that assume the role of an observer how can meta-human be equated to human consciousness? Perhaps it is a difference between the experience we get from 3-D movies or VR gadgets and the 1st hand experience that our soul experience. Like Mahirishi Mahesh Yogi mentioned and you quoted - the difference between the influence of LSD to our psyche and the state of Nirvana! - being in a state of nothing!
Not sure, my blabbering make any sense at all to you 🙂
Enjoyed your comments, I think you are getting close to the reality with your observations. Suggestion: read Dr Nader's latest book on consciousness. It is available on Amazon. For me, it cleared up many of the questions about the nature of life, and what consciousness is and does.
@@changingworld7467 🙏 for the guidance, appreciate it!
Ty
Thanks!
Good discussion
Jeesh, let Tony get a word in….
Thanks for this, I think Dr Nader is the world's greatest mind...bringing Vedic Science into the mainstream of contemporary thinkers, philosophers, and most importantly, the field of modern medicine. This is an extraordinary series of talks...wishing here that you do more of them with Dr Nader!
Part 3 😀
Very interesting
"don't disrupt that" (the natural tendencies of the Self) "with outer values" (like ... vaccination ? )
You are describing the Matrix. Everyone was plug 🔌 into
Please explain the relation between yantra,consciousness and raavan?
I feel that We as humanity, need growth in spiritual infrastructure outpacing the growth of economy and technology. And for spiritual infrastructure we need dedicated human spirits to work upon that. And that's what Rajiv ji is trying to tell I guess.
would love to hear what Daaji, spiritual leader of Heartfulness has to say on all of this...
Namaste
Why does Shri Deepak Chopra like to complicate himself !!!?
Wish All The Best to Our Shri Rajiv Malhotra ji.
Intellectual bridges sometimes make us go haywire....
He’s a fraud (deepak chopra)
🙏🙏🙏🙏
This interview at 22 min reminds me of kartikeyen 2 movie in some way.
🙏🏼🙏🏼
All previous attempts to raise the consciousness of the lower fourth dimension reptoids failed. We are all in grave danger
27:06 - Does this "ancient wisdom" have any evidence to back it up?? NO.
So these are all just BLIND BELIEFS.
Blrss you all