you make video's about interviewing people and studio tours, why do you not make with your self, touring your own studio and let some other youtuber interview you. like glenn or some other one
I think it sounds really neat. I guess the first few days you watch the moving rotaries, just like child with a new rc toy, but then you realize the sound and possibilities which come with such a concept. Also, a really good video.
I've never audibly said "Holy fucking shit" at a video while watching alone in my room... ...Until you dimed the lows on this thing. IT SOUNDS SO GOOD!
So now the question is, does the plugin have a Dual Mono mode button (like the new Schwerkraftmaschine one ) ? This also being a stereo unit still has two sides with identical sets of processing hardware. Both are probably driven by the MCU-DAC-VCA/Pot so one could (maybe) splitt the controls and send different amounts to the left and right side which would enable one to use it as a Mid side mastering unit with an external M/S matrix like the Konnektor .
Can i have more that 1 plugin of Tegeler on my session? if yes. How can the hardware control 3 or 4 plugins at the same whit different automations? thanks *
What do you think about the longevity of a product like this? I recently had a bunch of plugins go EOL when I upgraded my computer, it's tough to imagine development for the VST side continuing past 5 years or so...
I know this a different topic then the video . What do you suggest for sound treatment in a room what to use . This will be very helpful because I trust your opinion over many videos out there . The room I will be having soon , 12 feet × 14 feet × 8 feet ceiling . Thx very much your opinion is greatly appreciated.
Have had a Creme RC on my mixbus for several months now. The Low and High 'shelfs' are indeed subtle as someone has already mentioned. The HF one is incredibly subtle, and you sure need to have high frequnecies in the source material for it to do it's thing (obviously, it's not an enhancer!). I find the LF boost much more useful and it's a great effect. Thanks for confirming in your review that when the EQ/Compressor button is lit, the compressor comes first - the manual does not clarify the status of that button at all which is irritating!
@M Castile Great to have that comment from you re the HF! I was wondering that too. I actually sent my Creme RC to Tegeler in Berlin to have it checked - they found no fault with it. I also corresponded with the authors of the Sound On Sound reviews (Bob Thomas and Matt Houghton) and Bob has the unit across his mix bus as well. To leave it there shaows he finds it useful! He made the point that if you have the compressor AFTER the EQ then the HF boost may be even harder to discern. In some on-line reviews (not yours!) I think people are hearing things entirely due to expectation bias, and often pristine monitoring envoronments are required to discern stuff. All best!
For those that don't have Ethernet infrastructure (can't imagine who that would be..), you can always use a wireless bridge, which will adapt Ethernet to a wireless network.
Hey everyone! I just purchased a Tegeler VTC compressor from germany and it just came in today. I have a few questions that are urgent so I can use it! First, It came with a euro power cord. Can I simply switch this out for an amaerican power cord? It also came over with different fuses by default. Which fuse should I buy so it work? I've already switched the voltage to 115v, but I am afraid to try and power it on without the first two questions answered. Can someone PLEASE HELP!!!
don't care about that compressor, just here for the sample tunes, that bass line is so sweet.... could it be possible to make the knobs dance in rythme over some tunes ? that would be so satisfying...
Great minds think alike. Right at 00:00:24 I started busting out laughing at how it practically resembles the same thing I did in my last video. Anyways, I love the channel. Keep on pushing.
When you compare this to the cost of a Pultec and the SSL bus compressor it's a no brainer, it sounds at least as good but costs so much less and it a well built unit. I really want one of these and the Schwerkraftmaschine that can replace most compressors you own in one box, and has the motorized pots as well. I'd love to see you review the Schwerkraftmaschine, I think you would want to keep that one two but it's a little more money.
It sounds really good, but it's almost too gentle for my taste at least. I would probably prefer a pultec over this and a bus compressor after or before in the chain to get same result or something similar, and still have the chance to go more aggro on other things than just the mixbus. :)
i want one ... but the price is heavy. Its on my wishlist beside SPL VItalizer and warm audio bus Comp. That 3 would be my Master chain on the analog Mixing of my tracks. But it will take time to get money for it.
There's going to be good money to be made for anyone that can offer motorized knobs as a mod for every existing piece of analog gear in existence lol. I know I would seriously consider sending off my units if the price is reasonable.
I know someone who has the original Tegeler Creme and absolutely loved it until about 6 months in it broke, like something inside quit working. I have no idea how unusual this is.
He says he usually does EQ>COMP. the eq will change the way the comp responds (especially with changes to low end). use comp to eq if you want to eq without changing the comps response.
what about eq comp eq? first shape the sound with a pre eq in order to trigger the compressor the way you want it to be triggered then use the post eq to taste. best of both worlds.
@@gusdee4844 in order for you to make that argument I should have said "this is the right way" instead I said, what about trying an EQ-Comp-EQ order? It's just a suggestion. so yeah, you're right, it's an old cliche. whoever uses that has the risk of becoming a vegan too. watch out for that.
Im considering this piece. However I hear mixed opinions,I heard people say they got exactly the same results with Pro Q and a compressor plugin. That creme is quite hyped. Also the positive reviews on TH-cam look very similar in ‘one for give-away’ structure or something. So I’m lost whether it actually is this good or that it all is a bit hyped. Any experiences from users? Also, how does crème compare to eqp-1? That seems very good as well, but my first solution I look for would be for mixbus. Thanks!
Use your own ears in stead of listening to a bunch of people. You can hear it in action in this video. Sounds good to me, but make up your own opinion?
In the future everyone can access analog gear w/o a need to buy stuff. You just need to rent a timeframe for RC analog gear and you run a VST which controls the hardware. I would like to see a open network for this purpose. Imagine using analog synths remotely via ethernet
That’s only something someone without any hardware would write .. I LOVE the Cream and I don’t have a SINGLE Software Compressor of this quality. Not even FabFilter.. but it IS a great one. And also the PA Shadowhills Class A (wich is the „Most“ hardware like soft comp I know) and the Townhouse. UA in many cases have this cheap“ish“ highend.. maybe because of the lack of oversampling or smthng..
@@guidosc3470 analog gear creates artifacts which are pleasure for human ear. the moment you can identify and mix these artifacts, you will get an identical result with digital. and still is better to buy hardware than chase money through the throat :)
14 days is total bullshit....after you pay for shipping and all customs and broker fees you’re pretty much have to buy it or you’re out of few hundred bucks.
Why do you copy Jon Sine so hard. You do the same light in a box joke just way worse and all other info is word for word of his video. I like you channel but pls stop copying makes your video feel cheap!
White Sea Studio its few months ago when i was watching your video, 2 days ago i found your channel again, and your production level are amazing stept up. Nice broll and nice editing skills, but i reccomend to learn your text some more, its sound like that your sturggling and that your read from a telepromter or pease op paper. my englisch is bad so i say also in dutch White Sea Studio paar maanden geleden was ik je video's aan het kijken maar op een van een manier was je kanaal weer vergeten, 2 dagen geleden weer je kanaal gevonden, je productie niveau is gigantisch om hoog gegaan, net voor de test, klinkje dat je niet goed uit je hoofd hebt geleerd of dat je van een papiertje / autocue leest, want het klinkt zo, Dit moest ik zeggen van tegeler, ik wil het niet fout doen. maar alsnog hele leuke video. ohja zou ik een keertje langs mogen komen en kijkje mogen nemen :D woon in de buurt (wijchen) lijkt me logisch na die corona goedoe Of als je het niet erg vind. groetjes lucas
@@Whiteseastudio autocue moet je goed in zijn, bij een autocue ga lezen en dan klinkt het ook al slecht. Wat je best is om een script uit je hoofdteleren en in stukje stukje te vertellen en dan meschien op een andere hoek dat over hebt. Of het makkelijkst is doe voice over en dan brol laten zien. Ik zou eerst de video aanraden van de videomakers over autocue
@@Whiteseastudio I personally like that you sound "real" and not like a politician, TV presenter etc... Use the money you save from not buying an autocue and and buy another couple of kilos of your favorite coffee ;-) Thanks for all you do. Peace. Cheers.
@@simontassano5992 yes, i say you can better learn out of your head, because you need to learn a autocue how to read of it. that cost lot of time. he can better take a day off, en in the morning learning the text or better make no text, and then talking, but so mutch that one take sound good
Great video! I agree 100%!! Tegeler make amazing gear!! The Creme sounds amazing and this is a wonderful addition to it!
My man Warren
you make video's about interviewing people and studio tours, why do you not make with your self, touring your own studio and let some other youtuber interview you. like glenn or some other one
@@PyroKalfje Warren might be too modest to do that
After John Sine it's the turn for Mr White Sea to get his RC Tegeler.
@@evanmartin4749 hello! Thanks ever so much!!
I love what Tegeler are doing with this remote controlled hardware thing, finally dragging the studio hardware world out of 1976! Great video ❤️
I wish I could be recording in 1976!
Is it just me or has this channel's production value been off the charts lately?
click farm is cheaper now that more lockdowns are implaced
3:39 Around the
world, around the world
around the world, around the world
around the world, around the world
Nice that the release knob starts turning as soon as the singer screams "RELEASE!"
😁😆😆
Finally a metal remix of Sandstorm
Some excellent versions of Sandstorm by Darude there.
😂😂😂 great comment
@@Jon415. yah, a decade ago.
beige LA why? Not sure I understand.
the boost in production quality >
I think it sounds really neat. I guess the first few days you watch the moving rotaries, just like child with a new rc toy, but then you realize the sound and possibilities which come with such a concept.
Also, a really good video.
I've never audibly said "Holy fucking shit" at a video while watching alone in my room...
...Until you dimed the lows on this thing. IT SOUNDS SO GOOD!
That Intro seems like a shot at Jon Sine about the light in da box..or inspired by
Your video quality keeps getting even better, now with all the B-roll too, it’s fantastic!
This is easily your best video yet. The B-roll and editing especially were perfect. Thank you!
The bass in that pop version of sandstorm is sick AF...
Nice device, but weird that they don’t use the USB for midi-CC’s. There’s something satisfying seeing those knobs move by them selves.
can you tell me how do I assign the creme to my master in reaper ? without REAINSTERT ... thx
Love the format !
will you ever review the schwerkraftmaschine?
That sounds really good. Love the creme setting and the air bands!
So now the question is, does the plugin have a Dual Mono mode button (like the new Schwerkraftmaschine one ) ?
This also being a stereo unit still has two sides with identical sets of processing hardware.
Both are probably driven by the MCU-DAC-VCA/Pot so one could (maybe) splitt the controls and send different amounts to the left and right side which would enable one to use it as a Mid side mastering unit with an external M/S matrix like the Konnektor .
even though you were boosting the eqs all the way it didn't sound like too much? what is your thought about the eqs boosting levels?
my exact thought!
The best review. Sold!
Can you A-B them with the heritage successor???
Or what would you choose between those 2 ?
Can i have more that 1 plugin of Tegeler on my session? if yes. How can the hardware control 3 or 4 plugins at the same whit different automations? thanks *
Fabulous display of its capabilities
didn´t not expect to hear that metal demo XD who is that band?
What do you think about the longevity of a product like this? I recently had a bunch of plugins go EOL when I upgraded my computer, it's tough to imagine development for the VST side continuing past 5 years or so...
i also am stoked to hear some metal/non-edm style music on here
Got the compressor & summing of Tegeler. Great stuff! And payable!❤
I know this a different topic then the video .
What do you suggest for sound treatment in a room what to use .
This will be very helpful because I trust your opinion over many videos out there . The room I will be having soon , 12 feet × 14 feet × 8 feet ceiling .
Thx very much your opinion is greatly appreciated.
🤗 Thank U 4 Da Review!
Bless Up!
Have had a Creme RC on my mixbus for several months now. The Low and High 'shelfs' are indeed subtle as someone has already mentioned. The HF one is incredibly subtle, and you sure need to have high frequnecies in the source material for it to do it's thing (obviously, it's not an enhancer!). I find the LF boost much more useful and it's a great effect. Thanks for confirming in your review that when the EQ/Compressor button is lit, the compressor comes first - the manual does not clarify the status of that button at all which is irritating!
@M Castile Great to have that comment from you re the HF! I was wondering that too. I actually sent my Creme RC to Tegeler in Berlin to have it checked - they found no fault with it. I also corresponded with the authors of the Sound On Sound reviews (Bob Thomas and Matt Houghton) and Bob has the unit across his mix bus as well. To leave it there shaows he finds it useful! He made the point that if you have the compressor AFTER the EQ then the HF boost may be even harder to discern. In some on-line reviews (not yours!) I think people are hearing things entirely due to expectation bias, and often pristine monitoring envoronments are required to discern stuff. All best!
For those that don't have Ethernet infrastructure (can't imagine who that would be..), you can always use a wireless bridge, which will adapt Ethernet to a wireless network.
A simple USB to Ethernet dongle should do the trick much cheaper and easier with significantly less possibilities for their to be issues.
For the master mix stereo bus only then?
Hey everyone! I just purchased a Tegeler VTC compressor from germany and it just came in today. I have a few questions that are urgent so I can use it! First, It came with a euro power cord. Can I simply switch this out for an amaerican power cord? It also came over with different fuses by default. Which fuse should I buy so it work? I've already switched the voltage to 115v, but I am afraid to try and power it on without the first two questions answered. Can someone PLEASE HELP!!!
Great vid man! Thanks
don't care about that compressor, just here for the sample tunes, that bass line is so sweet.... could it be possible to make the knobs dance in rythme over some tunes ? that would be so satisfying...
Great minds think alike. Right at 00:00:24 I started busting out laughing at how it practically resembles the same thing I did in my last video. Anyways, I love the channel. Keep on pushing.
I've noticed a lot of youtuber's are making vidoes about this unit. I wonder what kind of deal they are getting. Might need to start making videos.
No deal... Tegeler ships these units to us to make a video about, we need to either buy it or ship it back
@@Whiteseastudio So now the question is, is it good enough for you, and are you going to buy it?
@@franklynanderson My money is on YES he will buy it.
He loves tactile knobs and remote controlled knobs will just be too much for him not to buy it.
@@josephanderson3111 I second that.
When you compare this to the cost of a Pultec and the SSL bus compressor it's a no brainer, it sounds at least as good but costs so much less and it a well built unit. I really want one of these and the Schwerkraftmaschine that can replace most compressors you own in one box, and has the motorized pots as well. I'd love to see you review the Schwerkraftmaschine, I think you would want to keep that one two but it's a little more money.
It sounds really good, but it's almost too gentle for my taste at least.
I would probably prefer a pultec over this and a bus compressor after or before in the chain to get same result or something similar,
and still have the chance to go more aggro on other things than just the mixbus. :)
Jeap, it's really gentle!
How is USB not scalable but Ethernet is? Have you not heard of a USB hub or am I misunderstanding something?
i want one ... but the price is heavy. Its on my wishlist beside SPL VItalizer and warm audio bus Comp. That 3 would be my Master chain on the analog Mixing of my tracks. But it will take time to get money for it.
I Definitely getting one of these units .🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
That's my favourite compressor aside from the shadow hills. It have a solid tone too it..❤💛💚👌
Gotta admit that EQ sounds superb. So smooth and full
Yeap! Its amazing!
🔥🔥
This or the SSL Fusion?
If there is only one outboard unit one can have...this is the one...it's perfect...modern control and classic sound.
I can't tell if I love it or if it's too subtle for my taste.
There's going to be good money to be made for anyone that can offer motorized knobs as a mod for every existing piece of analog gear in existence lol. I know I would seriously consider sending off my units if the price is reasonable.
I second that, SoundGuy
So now you can actually automate hardware 👍🏻. These guys make great stuff
I know someone who has the original Tegeler Creme and absolutely loved it until about 6 months in it broke, like something inside quit working. I have no idea how unusual this is.
I think it's awesome, but off course we have to take in mind the quality of the mix that you thowed in
is sc lowcut automateable?
I love faders, this automation is even better.feels like superprogrammable robotics. Very cool.
I don't like the sound tho.
If I may ask, would you recommend to compress then EQ, or EQ Then compress? Love your videos 😁
(In the digital realm sorry! I’m using Cubase)
He says he usually does EQ>COMP. the eq will change the way the comp responds (especially with changes to low end). use comp to eq if you want to eq without changing the comps response.
what about eq comp eq? first shape the sound with a pre eq in order to trigger the compressor the way you want it to be triggered then use the post eq to taste. best of both worlds.
@@exshenanigan2333 its cliche but theres no rules. Seriously. Whatever works for your song works
@@gusdee4844 in order for you to make that argument I should have said "this is the right way" instead I said, what about trying an EQ-Comp-EQ order? It's just a suggestion.
so yeah, you're right, it's an old cliche. whoever uses that has the risk of becoming a vegan too. watch out for that.
Is this a sponsored video? Almost identical with Jon Sine video
Hahaha, nope 😂
Its very identical Yes...
It sounda great.
Any experiences from users for creme?
5:16 Yeah man, who's the metal/HC band? Sounds modern, yet old skool.
Can't beat a bit of Tegeler AM
Kinda like Miskatonic university.
I feel like the automation would only be helpful for recall, at least for the way I mix.
Maybe you can use that for automating the amount of compression and eq in the verse vs the chorus, just an idea
Im considering this piece. However I hear mixed opinions,I heard people say they got exactly the same results with Pro Q and a compressor plugin. That creme is quite hyped. Also the positive reviews on TH-cam look very similar in ‘one for give-away’ structure or something. So I’m lost whether it actually is this good or that it all is a bit hyped. Any experiences from users? Also, how does crème compare to eqp-1? That seems very good as well, but my first solution I look for would be for mixbus. Thanks!
Use your own ears in stead of listening to a bunch of people. You can hear it in action in this video. Sounds good to me, but make up your own opinion?
In the future everyone can access analog gear w/o a need to buy stuff. You just need to rent a timeframe for RC analog gear and you run a VST which controls the hardware. I would like to see a open network for this purpose. Imagine using analog synths remotely via ethernet
it exists! Look up Access Analog :)
Snake oil for drawmer 1978 pls
Love the second remix of Darude - Sandstorm 🦴
I've been using the original creme since a long time and still like it, but this would be way cooler :)
Song of the Pop Demo is really nice. If released ID anyone
Great review, but those lyrics on the dance track. goodness me.
When you said subtle.....you meant it.
dope!
Thank you for some metal music!!! This thing really sounds amazing, and the flexibility too. I need it in my studio!!
What is cram .
Me : like if you cram something together/ something that tightens ?
Also me after reading it's actual name : Créme ? Like cream ? T.T
Its pronounced cram
Sadly because of TH-cam compression algorithm, not much difference in sound whatever the settings...
I could hear it CLEARLY .. on my phone 🙃
Pultec guys and subtle are two things that don't fit together. I love pultec guys.
That 2nd track, Sandstorm never sounded this good : )
This is exactly the point when you would start being fat. I was skinny as you and bam, 105 kilos.
your a very great music man lol
Now compare it to a vst. So everybody can get an idea if hardware is worth it
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Ah, so Motorized knobs? Why isn't everyone doing this?
I wonder about that as well!
Ehhhh. Doesnt the fun come from turning the knobs?
New Sandstorm by darude, What!!???
Creme rules :)
You get a dude in to edit this one bro? Or maybe it's sponsored?
I editted it myself, and not sponsored.
If this is where we are heading at, remote controlled analog gear then take my money 🙌😏
Than again 2k for a compressor 🤔
That's pretty middle prices speaking the truth...and it's tube eq + vca comp
@@scacchomattho Fair enough.
can we get ur email sir ?
You can contact me via my website
I just can't get over the way it looks :-/
hardware producers can not understand the game is over: D
That’s only something someone without any hardware would write .. I LOVE the Cream and I don’t have a SINGLE Software Compressor of this quality. Not even FabFilter.. but it IS a great one. And also the PA Shadowhills Class A (wich is the „Most“ hardware like soft comp I know) and the Townhouse. UA in many cases have this cheap“ish“ highend.. maybe because of the lack of oversampling or smthng..
@@guidosc3470 analog gear creates artifacts which are pleasure for human ear. the moment you can identify and mix these artifacts, you will get an identical result with digital. and still is better to buy hardware than chase money through the throat :)
14 days is total bullshit....after you pay for shipping and all customs and broker fees you’re pretty much have to buy it or you’re out of few hundred bucks.
Impressive, so the next level of analog gear could be like that without any physical knobs.
Why do you copy Jon Sine so hard. You do the same light in a box joke just way worse and all other info is word for word of his video.
I like you channel but pls stop copying makes your video feel cheap!
I didn’t see his video tbh 🤔
White Sea Studio its few months ago when i was watching your video, 2 days ago i found your channel again, and your production level are amazing stept up. Nice broll and nice editing skills, but i reccomend to learn your text some more, its sound like that your sturggling and that your read from a telepromter or pease op paper.
my englisch is bad so i say also in dutch
White Sea Studio paar maanden geleden was ik je video's aan het kijken maar op een van een manier was je kanaal weer vergeten, 2 dagen geleden weer je kanaal gevonden, je productie niveau is gigantisch om hoog gegaan, net voor de test, klinkje dat je niet goed uit je hoofd hebt geleerd of dat je van een papiertje / autocue leest, want het klinkt zo, Dit moest ik zeggen van tegeler, ik wil het niet fout doen. maar alsnog hele leuke video. ohja zou ik een keertje langs mogen komen en kijkje mogen nemen :D woon in de buurt (wijchen) lijkt me logisch na die corona goedoe Of als je het niet erg vind.
groetjes lucas
Ik ga kijken naar een autocue, had t zelf ook al gezien, daar valt het meeste te winnen 💪
@@Whiteseastudio autocue moet je goed in zijn, bij een autocue ga lezen en dan klinkt het ook al slecht. Wat je best is om een script uit je hoofdteleren en in stukje stukje te vertellen en dan meschien op een andere hoek dat over hebt. Of het makkelijkst is doe voice over en dan brol laten zien. Ik zou eerst de video aanraden van de videomakers over autocue
@@Whiteseastudio I personally like that you sound "real" and not like a politician, TV presenter etc... Use the money you save from not buying an autocue and and buy another couple of kilos of your favorite coffee ;-) Thanks for all you do. Peace. Cheers.
@@simontassano5992 yes, i say you can better learn out of your head, because you need to learn a autocue how to read of it. that cost lot of time. he can better take a day off, en in the morning learning the text or better make no text, and then talking, but so mutch that one take sound good
Creeerrem not craaaaaam
No RGB , this thing sucks !