Spacefarers: The Sci-fi Wargame Games Workshop had Before Warhammer 40,000 - Codex Compliant

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  • @ShallowVA
    @ShallowVA 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +329

    Ah the 80s, when men were Men, women were Men, and robots were also Men.

    • @RipOffProductionsLLC
      @RipOffProductionsLLC 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Well, men is technically a gender neutral term in English.

    • @Thrano
      @Thrano 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@RipOffProductionsLLC I can one up that one: In german, the term "Männchen" or (in local dialect) "Manderl" is often use to describe any game piece that is vaguely humanoid shaped (like the conic ones) and roughly translates to man or men.

    • @kshadehyaena
      @kshadehyaena 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      @@RipOffProductionsLLC Sure, calling troops "men" isn't weird (especially for such an old game) but calling the individual model a "man" kinda is. And then there's the robots who just aren't in either way.

    • @loadeddice4696
      @loadeddice4696 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@kshadehyaena Some robots can be men. Data is a man. Bender is a guy, which is kinda like being a man.

    • @YossarianVanDriver
      @YossarianVanDriver 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@ThranoThis is probably because the common root word began as a gender-neutral one; in old english "man/men" just meant "person/people" and there were other words to refer to specific genders, and then somewhere along the way "man" became specifically masculine and they had to add a prefix to differentiate "wo-man".

  • @laurencerushton3544
    @laurencerushton3544 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +88

    With each video about the early days it makes me feel even more ancient. Luckily I have been bald for decades.

    • @stephenbarrett8861
      @stephenbarrett8861 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I was born bald!

    • @laurencerushton3544
      @laurencerushton3544 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@stephenbarrett8861 Were you copying my style?

    • @stephenbarrett8861
      @stephenbarrett8861 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@laurencerushton3544 I inherited it from my Dad.

    • @laurencerushton3544
      @laurencerushton3544 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stephenbarrett8861 Then we don't have a Pat Mustard style event. th-cam.com/video/0LvFn5kSABA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=h-Tu9rtrN6jtdoVf&t=85 The glory of Speed 3.

    • @FnRenner
      @FnRenner 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So has Snipe but he hasn't admitted it to himself yet

  • @Blacknight8850
    @Blacknight8850 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    Episodes like this and Laserburn always get me dreaming of this long forgotten age of weird little wargames and their accompanying miniature ranges, that you only hear about in specialist magazines and word of mouth at the hobby shop. ...then I remember "oh yeah, that's just what wargaming is outside of Games Workshop", lol.

    • @LordChesalot
      @LordChesalot 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Badsquidogames has this vibe

    • @Coinneach-ez7ec
      @Coinneach-ez7ec 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      alternative armies is pretty much entirely this and they also publish lazerburn in the modern era so fun!

  • @Kroeghe
    @Kroeghe 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    It bothers me to no end that in Kill Team they use a pentagon to represent a 6 inch move, a square for 3 inches, and a triangle for one inch. A continuation of a glorious tradition, I see.

  • @discordinc
    @discordinc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    Honestly these side trips into other games of the era are really interesting. I didn't really get into war games as a child so it's fascinating to see the evolution

  • @DeathInTheSnow
    @DeathInTheSnow 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    You know, those Star Trek figures would look pretty spiffy with some paint on them. Shame nobody has made a proper in-depth video about them all just yet...

  • @CharlesDantonio3
    @CharlesDantonio3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    As a Man, I am proud to say that I can fire (once) after moving!

  • @paullittle835
    @paullittle835 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The "bolt pistol" looks like a Gyrojet, the real world rocket pistol that is often said to have inspired the Bolter!

  • @zhouenlai2569
    @zhouenlai2569 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Great video. Never knew this existed. BTW "the men" is an older way to refer to soldiers or troops. It's not uncommon in that context, that's way you "man" a trench or position.

    • @AT-bq7vl
      @AT-bq7vl 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Don't let facts get in the way of them making a totally pointless argument about gender terms in a 1980's table top minute game....

    • @SuperMookles
      @SuperMookles 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      But by the standards of today it is faintly ridiculous. Don't be such a snowflake. ​@AT-bq7vl

    • @GwainSagaFanChannel
      @GwainSagaFanChannel หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@AT-bq7vl touch some grass

    • @tarnetskygge
      @tarnetskygge 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Unfortunately they obviously know this, since they mention and show (3:48) the historical games these rules were inspired by on and from which the terminology presumably originates, but they decided to lean into the "MEN!!" bit anyway... I'm a fan of progressive ideas, but not really a fan of that kind of culture war engagement-baiting.

  • @CluelessinDorset
    @CluelessinDorset 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Excellent work as usual! I could look at the lenses of that imperial marine you painted up all day! 😊

  • @euansmith3699
    @euansmith3699 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    17:59 That's a great illustration of a sneaky space marine sneaking.

  • @Groovebot3k
    @Groovebot3k 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    >this game was designed for children
    >combat has 7 phases per round

    • @rmsocarroll
      @rmsocarroll 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Children were though back then; or you know had less options.

    • @Flamekebab
      @Flamekebab 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@rmsocarrollthat typo made me read it as "children were thorough back then!" which is a delightful notion. Back in my day we played the turn all the way to completion, lad, none of this phase skipping malarky you young people are so fond of!

    • @rmsocarroll
      @rmsocarroll 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      "Aye, we dealt out the warp cards even when there was no pysker on either side!"
      @@Flamekebab

  • @Scrombo2
    @Scrombo2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Man I'd love a Gorkamorka vid but, whatever you two wanna do next, can't wait

  • @darkstar1360
    @darkstar1360 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    To quote noted Vampire, Dracula from Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. "What is a Man?!"

    • @martincann5052
      @martincann5052 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oooh! Ooh! I know this! It's, er... I mean, um... sorry, what was the question again?

    • @kshadehyaena
      @kshadehyaena 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      A very small pile of stats and equipment, apparently.

  • @Kaninjadog
    @Kaninjadog 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Gotta say I really love the design for the Imperial Marines in Spacefarers. Would be cool if GW ever brought that look back sometimes, maybe as an Imperial Guard regiment.

    • @cleeiii357
      @cleeiii357 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Maybe its just me but they kind of remind me of the designs of the Harakoni Warhawks Imperial Guard regiment.

  • @meanmanturbo
    @meanmanturbo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    9:02 Man, the bolt pistol really looks like a gyrojet in this one

    • @Flamekebab
      @Flamekebab 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I hopped into the comments to say precisely that! Clearly bolt pistols really do share ancestry with the batshit Cold War weapon concept!

  • @ThomasMurch
    @ThomasMurch 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Ten seconds in, and I'm already laughing harder than many sitcom episodes or comedy movies have ever managed ... By the Hive Mind that secretly controls my every action on a subconscious level that I haven't actually realised yet, I love this series.

  • @dd11111
    @dd11111 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I cannot express enough love for the fact that the bolt pistol is a Gyrojet! Also that the handgun is a C96 broomhandle Mauser!
    I mean I think that gun is awsome. But it tickles me that thousands of years in the future people are apparently still using a pistol from 1896!

    • @paullittle835
      @paullittle835 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It had already been used as the basis of Han Solo's blaster as well, ofc...

  • @gar2yc
    @gar2yc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It's so good to see Snipe going strong. :)

  • @mikevincent8728
    @mikevincent8728 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is just the friggin' best channel. Keep nailing it, MEN. :D

  • @daviddalglish9430
    @daviddalglish9430 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Always love seeing the type of game that I remember from being a young un. On a personal note (unlike the personal note that I wrote above already...) that Lego space set you showed was the first ever "big" set that I had. I have no idea how my mum afforded it for my Christmas (dirt poor would have been a step up for us) but I loved it and seeing it again her brought back enough memories to have a bit of a happy cry. ❤️

  • @mrflapjacklover
    @mrflapjacklover 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    gun nerd here, the image of a bolt pistol is based off of the real gyrojet handgun, which uses rocket propelled ammo, cool they were thinking about that this early

  • @samb.8134
    @samb.8134 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Today's episode : discovering that Drummer Matt is in fact real, and not a figment of Snipe and Wib's imagination.

  • @crisisdevil9499
    @crisisdevil9499 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Snipe looks well, that makes me happy

  • @cptmachine
    @cptmachine 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Amazing work as always. I as a long time Ork fan waiting on the edge of my seat for your GorkaMorka video (it’s affecting my posture)

  • @SachikaRomanova
    @SachikaRomanova 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's now 40K canon that Conversion Beams are just the Saints Row Dubstep guns playing gothic choral tracks.

  • @richardb1816
    @richardb1816 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So glad I found this channel, so informative about the deep company and in-universe lore, and super friendly and warm atmosphere to each video! Definitely something valuable in the community, keep up the awesome work!! ❤️

  • @johnsowerby7182
    @johnsowerby7182 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I really enjoy these side trips into the stuff like this, tangentially associated with Warhammer and 40K, and yet so very different.

  • @EDSKaR
    @EDSKaR 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Making a hard to play game to sell the models they make.... truly the origins of Citadel.

  • @echsecutioner
    @echsecutioner 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You guys are awesome! I don't even really care about these weird obscure pre-warhammer games, but your content is just so engaging, I love it!

  • @SimonClark
    @SimonClark 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Whenever I see a new codex compliant has been released it honestly just makes my day better

  • @laguaridadelgremlin
    @laguaridadelgremlin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love it when you unearth things like these. I'm so adding "sarulite" to my sci fantasy metals collection in my games xD

    • @EntropicEcho
      @EntropicEcho 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah mate, sarulite is way more brittle than plasteel!

  • @Retrosicotte
    @Retrosicotte 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I particularly love the sublight ship that departs Earth and gets to Alpha Centauri in 26 years.

  • @brycemaster
    @brycemaster 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The BLAH table and shouted "SPACEFARERS" absolutely sent me. Another absolutely amazing video.

  • @TheMaltesefalcon204
    @TheMaltesefalcon204 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Odd they decided to use "men" opposed to "units" or even "troops". Very archaic, but I suppose it got the rules across, so it isn't wrong.

    • @SuperFunkmachine
      @SuperFunkmachine 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Men is shorter and saves text, also it makes it clear that its about single entity's.
      Units and Troops have wargaming conation's of them being a group acting as one.

    • @BR-bn1mz
      @BR-bn1mz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@SuperFunkmachinegits would be better

    • @TheMaltesefalcon204
      @TheMaltesefalcon204 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      AWFUL standards of that day as well, just poor wording, I am not referring to anything else

    • @GwainSagaFanChannel
      @GwainSagaFanChannel หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@craigjones7343 boomer alert

  • @geoffwalker9210
    @geoffwalker9210 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I dunno why force sword next to normal sword cracked me up.
    There's a few peices of artwork in rogue trader that feels like it could have been for spacefarers. Especially some Imperial army stuff, that look radically different from the models for that faction. It is one page 164-165
    I spent way too much time tracking that down

  • @doc_eyebrow
    @doc_eyebrow 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    20:32 thanks for my new ringtone guys

  • @Thoughtsmith
    @Thoughtsmith 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Please keep showing us random semi-related stuff. It's always fascinating.

  • @kdisley
    @kdisley 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I actually owned a copy of this game - I found it in some random second-hand bookshop while on holiday in Cornwall back in the early '90s for pocket money, and bought it with the intention of trying to actually run it with my scattered collection of WH40K miniatures someday. Never got round to it, though, and it's now somewhere among the random stuff in my loft.
    I will say that the whole _"manly men men men"_ thing is more of a cultural difference over time than a pointed microaggression... I don't mean in terms of the "Oh, granddad's making racist jokes again" kind of difference where it was okay in olden days to make clearly-discriminatory othering comments because it was considered harmless by white people but rightfully upset minorities, but more a case of institutionalised education.
    I remember that the masculine form was considered to be the grammatically-correct pronoun for a plurality of mixed- or indeterminate-gender persons when I was learning English Language back in the dark days of the previous millennium - it was just easier than saying "men and women" every time. It's the reason we still say "mankind" as a catch-all term for humanity of all genders rather than "men-and-women-kind".
    Was that morally right, or justifiable in modern times? No, of course not - but in terms of how English was taught back then, it was _grammatically_ correct. It was what was drummed into us over years of school, it was the answer that would earn you a tick on your exam paper rather than a cross, and it was deeply-ingrained habit by the time you were let loose on the world. If you wrote "men" it was implicitly understood by the reader that the term didn't necessarily exclude other genders - "women" was only used when talking _specifically_ about women, but "men" was a catch-all umbrella term.
    The point I'm making is, while it probably does highlight the implicit low-grade institutionalised sexism baked into society back then, it would be unfair to suggest that this was an intentional shot fired in terms of exclusive gender politics when it's more likely that it's just how the writers had been taught to write at school. While this sort of thinking is clearly archaic to modern sensibilities, it's not like this is Victorian-age grammar - I'm 46, and this was still how I was being taught English when I was at school in the early '90s, so it's only one or two generations back that this was the _correct_ term to use.
    I can remember as a small child first finding out that the term "men" could include women but "women" couldn't include men, and asking my Mum why this was, and she just shrugged - she didn't have an answer, that was just how language worked back then. It never sat well with me, but if you're going to write something like a business letter or an essay which you wanted to be taken seriously (or, for that matter, a set of games rules), then you used the grammatically-accepted vernacular or risked being discounted as uneducated. I mean, why take what you have to say seriously if you can't even write words good...?

    • @EntropicEcho
      @EntropicEcho 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Good write-up! I also think Snipe and Wib obviously know this and were just making jokes about how cultural contexts shifts, where older contexts viewed in a modern one can give some funny results. :)

    • @commanderjarak
      @commanderjarak 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Originally mann referred to all humans in old English, with modifiers added to refer to people of a specific gender being wer- for men, and wif- for women. So you'd have mann for all humans, wermann for adult males, and wifmann for adult females. The term wer or wif were also used on their own some times as a shortened version. This died out sometime around the 1300s from memory.

    • @EntropicEcho
      @EntropicEcho 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@commanderjarak Cool bit of trivia, thanks!

  • @darkfalc007
    @darkfalc007 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Omggg I love Snipe’s eyeshadow in this video

  • @NathanielGarr0_96
    @NathanielGarr0_96 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    16:40 the model of the boltgun is literally a Gyrojet Rocket Pistole, so the Bolger is directly inspired by this weird pice of 70s weapontechnology

  • @ArbitorIan
    @ArbitorIan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    MEN (or stationary jet scooters)
    Those are the options.

  • @harbl99
    @harbl99 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    1:53 -- Is that some 'strong resemblance to but legally distinct from' Paul Darrow likeness? I think it is.

  • @BR-bn1mz
    @BR-bn1mz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great to see another video from you two
    Totally killing that hair style and the matching colours with eachother is adorable

  • @AAhmou
    @AAhmou 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    9:02 That laser pistol makes an appearance as Archaeotech in Blackstone Fortress (the board game).

  • @redhood1060
    @redhood1060 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This show a pie and a can of Diet Coke. It is a good day.

    • @apocrypha5363
      @apocrypha5363 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What type of pie?

    • @redhood1060
      @redhood1060 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@apocrypha5363 pie flavoured. No is chicken

    • @apocrypha5363
      @apocrypha5363 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@redhood1060 nice! :D

  • @TheZombiemofo
    @TheZombiemofo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Me thinks a running gag of finding a way of shoehorning the imperial marine model into every video is required. 😆

  • @CocoHutzpah
    @CocoHutzpah 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With all the tables and modifiers, I can't imagine playing this game with more than 3 or 4 models. It would take forever remembering everything with 10 or 12 MEN in my group.

  • @YossarianVanDriver
    @YossarianVanDriver 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Stuff like this does really help contextualise elements that nowadays seem just intrinsically part of 40k, but when they were initially put in fit into a broader "nerds hopped up on Dune" milieu.

  • @Bluecho4
    @Bluecho4 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This game, Laserburn, and old school D&D reinforce in my mind that Game Design is a skill, and possibly a Science (or at least an Art). There are many ways to lay out the rules for a game, but some are less helpful than others.
    My rule of thumb is that if you're printing while matrices into your rules that players must check every two minutes, maybe you should rethink the game design to NOT include a matrix. Any player who isn't already very used to looking up huge tables like this is going to go cross-eyed. This is true of both children and most adults. This is why D&D eventually dropped their to-hit charts and went with THAC0, and then later dropped THAC0 in favor of a simple "roll higher to hit" style of Ascending Armor Class.
    Basically, a lot of 70s-80s tabletop game design could use an editor to cut down on needless complexity, and just enforce basic consistency. Simulationism is one thing, but most games of this era made even that granularity more complicated than required.

  • @Flamekebab
    @Flamekebab 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is that the same Dave Morris that wrote Heart of Ice in the '90s? I created a Twine adaptation of that game!

  • @Attilargh
    @Attilargh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love these forays into weird other games! It'd be neat to see you guys play some weirder miniatures games on video.

  • @bloodrunsclear
    @bloodrunsclear 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There are few things more adorable than early Space Marines

  • @Spongemonkey26
    @Spongemonkey26 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I read it as "the game gameworkshop had before gamesworkshop had a game."
    Like the how much wood could a woodchuck chuck... lol

  • @maxbrandt6
    @maxbrandt6 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @13:00 So that's were that robot priest comes from! I've recently painted up that old figure!

  • @Rob-nq6br
    @Rob-nq6br 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a lovely little collection of the Spacefarers miniatures, now pressed into Rogue Trader as an actual playable game.

  • @obnoxiouspriest
    @obnoxiouspriest 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Living for the BBBBBBLLLLAAAAHHH phase right now....

  • @biteme9593
    @biteme9593 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    as a long time suffer from 'droopy gun' I'd like to thank your channel for dealing so sensitively with the topic

  • @manofaction1807
    @manofaction1807 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great find!
    Spacefarers falls in there with Laser Burn, and Heritage's Galacta 25.
    A couple of D6's, and you have a game!!

  • @redspy6018
    @redspy6018 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The ‘men’ thing is still somehow better than the home brew D&D supplement I found which had an entire page at the beginning justifying its use of he/him pronouns including a line that said something like “Centuries of use have rendered this pronoun gender neutral” going on the explain how grammatically horrific constructs like ‘his/her’ and ‘theirs’ were.

    • @dashiellgillingham4579
      @dashiellgillingham4579 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Such rants often contain the bizarre subtext that actual men don't exist in this language and that will never not be funny to me.

  • @AndrewMcColl
    @AndrewMcColl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That's it. Every time someone mentions the Emperor of Mankind, I'm going to respond with "who, Jonathon?"

  • @TheBigAristotle1
    @TheBigAristotle1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lookin good, Snipe!!! So glad you're on the mend

  • @AllPossibleDogs
    @AllPossibleDogs 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the thing about the solar power satellites actually *isnt* science fiction! its a real concept known as "space-based solar power" and its basically big solar panels in space which then transmit the electricity down in the form of microwaves or lasers to ground-based receivers. and if youre wondering what the advantages are, solar panels in space would generate more power (about 1.5x to 2x), they'd generate that power for a greater portion of the day (depending on orbit), you can rewire the power grid as need demands by aiming the satellites at different receivers

  • @theRx
    @theRx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    *bopping along to the cheery outro music not expecting a Snipe Mouth Sound jumpscare*

  • @LOBricksAndSecrets
    @LOBricksAndSecrets 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Future episode from Snipe and Wib: "Chess, the true precursor to 40k?"

  • @andersingram
    @andersingram 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    love these vids about early gw obscurities, add them up and you really feel like you start to get a picture of how stuff came together ...

  • @aidanfarnan4683
    @aidanfarnan4683 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I do love these old 70's and 80's games that are just a little bit more convaluted than they need to bee, but that have a lot of charm.

  • @lordofuzkulak8308
    @lordofuzkulak8308 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Regarding the 1cm=1m means the minis would scale to 2.5m tall thing; unless I'm mistaken, at this time, and for some time after, it was common for games to differentiate between 'figure scale' and 'ground scale', so figures would be disproportionately big compared to in game distances. As I understand it, this was largely used to explain why ranges for weapons were unrealistically short and why battlefields were vastly smaller than real life ones and why a six turn game would be able to represent a battle that lasts the better part of a day rather than maybe an hour like it would if everything was the same scale as the minis. I think its also related somewhat to how some people will look at a unit of, say, twenty goblin minis, and say it represents several hundred goblins.

  • @roganzar
    @roganzar 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Shooting Matrix table nearly broke me.

  • @GelatinousStube
    @GelatinousStube 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Me looking at the shooting matrix table: BBBBLLLLLLAAAAAAHHHH!

  • @majortom7186
    @majortom7186 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Laserburn I know well, but Spacefarers was before my time. The cross-inspiration between these minis and the 15mm Laserburn stuff seems strong.

  • @mjdoombreed
    @mjdoombreed 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    BLAH
    BBLLAAHH
    BBBLLLAAAHHH
    BBBBLLLLAAAAHHHH BBBBBLLLLLAAAAAHHHHH
    What an incredible set of charts

  • @faithkerns1626
    @faithkerns1626 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Soviets invading Iran and NATO launching nukes is likely a reference to Threads, a movie with the same backstory. Its a good movie but horrifying.

  • @danesorensen1775
    @danesorensen1775 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I keep coming back to Heavy Metal... That aesthetic when all space sci-fi was generic and interchangeable, with the resulting worlds all feeling infinite and endless. I wish I could've been there for that.

  • @pnutz_2
    @pnutz_2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the bolt gun actually looks like the IRL gyrojet pistol

  • @eldritchmorgasm4018
    @eldritchmorgasm4018 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There was something called "Havok", which came out in the 90s, and died pretty quickly.
    It's more like toys quality-wise, but still nice.
    I think I still have a set, somewhere...

  • @reallyidrathernot.134
    @reallyidrathernot.134 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    11:29
    I got super into reading it's lore just then

  • @ChampionOfSkyrim
    @ChampionOfSkyrim 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Snipe and Wib should do a codex compliant on some of the old adventures for various games GW used to publish in white dwarf.

  • @Quick-Silver206
    @Quick-Silver206 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rules like these make me realize using imagination is often more fun.

  • @online-me5jr
    @online-me5jr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic video. Love your work!

  • @kshadehyaena
    @kshadehyaena 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That hand flamer is just a spicy squirt gun, isn't it?

  • @PrincessHaily
    @PrincessHaily 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really like these videos on old GW systems I've never heard of. Its way more interesting to me seeing where everything started, rather than the popular stuff that there's already a lot of folk talking about!

  • @jaysunbodaysun3302
    @jaysunbodaysun3302 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey! Here's an idea: Get learned on WH Fantasy and do those great codex compliant for those codexes....BECAUSE YOU GUYS ROCK!!!! DO IT!!! YOU GOTS SKILL!! SKILL!!

  • @mus_cetiner
    @mus_cetiner 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love you both. Good to see another Codex Compliant.

  • @clockmonkey
    @clockmonkey 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When Space farers came out Beer was about forty five to fifty pence a Pint, making the Rules around four Pints.

  • @connor9024
    @connor9024 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I feel like if I ever fall into a terry davis level of madness, these heavily table based war games are the ones I’d play on an excel spreadsheet with chat gpt armed with a random number generator

  • @dalek4463
    @dalek4463 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As an *AGGRESSIVELY GENDERED MAN* I enjoyed this video :>

  • @AFnord
    @AFnord 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Quite like those old models. Sure, their faces might look a bit off, as faces tended to do in that era, but particularly the helmeted ones have aged remarkably well.
    And the flipped tables and other such oddities... I don't know why companies kept doing that, but when reading rules for early 80's games, be they wargames or tabletop RPGs, it seems to be pretty par for the course. Why so many companies and designers just collectively decided that this was the right thing to do I'll never understand.

  • @taytonclait
    @taytonclait 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    HAIR IS BACK!!!

  • @bosshogg8273
    @bosshogg8273 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rest assured, I enjoyed seeing him in this video.

  • @bobbler42
    @bobbler42 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    12:00 I'll know the meta is a satire when Melonkus is revealed to have been a lost primarch, whose electric legion eventually dissolved after one too many of his elaborate electric death engines failed to achieve a strategic objective after catching fire, leaving his super squeaky legion unable to buid appropriately ranged vehicles in which to truck about. And then accidentally taking over vox casting and filling it with spam in which the Emperor's official channel is taken over by someone talking about drops in stim prices.

  • @jonathandamattamoreira6324
    @jonathandamattamoreira6324 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another great vídeo!! The work you two make is simply amazing!!

  • @lurkinggrey7492
    @lurkinggrey7492 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Danggit, between this, laserburn, space crusade, I don’t have the money for all this

  • @Mystyx-Sama
    @Mystyx-Sama 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh thank God. I've been a MAN for a few decades now, and I had no idea what my stats were. Phew! Life's gonna get easier from here on out!

  • @micheal4526
    @micheal4526 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For as annoying as it is, they probably intentionally swapped directions for ranged and melee combat modifiers to make the two different in a little more than distance

  • @thomasrobertson4213
    @thomasrobertson4213 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My partner… “what the fuck is ff9, it looks like a pig crossed with a rock”

  • @CarlosRuiz-zw5lr
    @CarlosRuiz-zw5lr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We're just normal men. We're just innocent men.

  • @OrakelofDeath
    @OrakelofDeath 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Okay, this was interesting and all, but what about the one question everyone needs to know about: Can we play with the Miniatures at Warhammer World?

  • @paulcocks7299
    @paulcocks7299 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm sure there was an opportunity for some BLAH related puns at 7:16 with the Shooting Matrix. [Damn it. I really should have waited 45 seconds before commenting!]

  • @Outlawcarl
    @Outlawcarl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes! its always a good day when there is a Codex Compliant