I like the idea of a sleeper agent being activated years after the group's cause is long over. I think this plot would work better set in the Alpha Quadrant.
It certainly osn't as dumb as Chuck makes it sound. The Maqis have long been shown to have varied reasons brining them to the cause, from petty vengence for the occupation, to the romanticosed anti federation resistance of Eddington on DS9. It's doing it on Voyager that makes it dumb.
@@chrisw207 I really wish PIC focused on answering all the deconstruction DS9 did since I feel almost all of its arguments are hallow and could be easily counted. In a Post Dominion War Federation, Eddington would sadly be seen as a heroic figure when he really shouldn't. A storyline where Picard has to deal with his cult of personality would be great but that isn't going to happen. If anything, Alex Kurtzman would see Eddington as a purely heroic man of action.
@@wdcain1PIC only dealt with DS9 in its last season and only in regards to the Founders since they chose one as the antagonist. LD and PROD are better suited since they’re only a decade separated from the Dominion War instead of a generation.
Watching movies in the holodeck is the kind of idea that quickly becomes more awesome the more you think about it. Imagine any given sci-fi spectacle film of the last few decades. Now imagine what it'd be like to watch the action take place in front of you, not on a screen, but as a three-dimensional presentation with full tactile realism. Out of everything Star Trek's cooked up, *that* might be the one idea I lament not having in our century the most.
@SFDebris I'm a longtime fan of your work. I remember thinking in 2011 or so that eventually you'd run out of material, but the current leadership of Paramount has pretty much made that impossible. I'm 40 and I look forward to watching your reviews of Strange New Worlds in my 60s.
This reminds me of the Simulation episode where Tuvok created a security training program to deal with a Maquis rebellion and it malfunctioned and tried to take over. Also, why have it be a Maquis? Just have the bad guy be a Cardassian who has made it his quest to purge the Maquis from the galaxy and who used to be in the Obsidian Order, "I may not have been able to save my world from destruction, but I can fulfill the one mission I was good at... murdering freedom fighters."
There's the True Way, which Chuck rightfully lambasted for being so ineffective and pointless in DS9. (STO did attempt to make greater use of them at least).
1:08 I remember that Voyager got really good at teasers. Janeaway slowly removing her black leather gloves befor torturing a prisoner. Janeaway, in a different episode, being played by a completely different actress. A flashback to Starship Voyager being constructed and SevenOfNine was there. The episode would then explain how. (For instance: How the other woman impersonated Janeaway) because it's easier than explaining why. That's the only one I remember, but there were several episodes like: "Here's an incongruous thing...and here's how it was done" Yes but WHY was it done? The gloves episode was good though.
You missed one of the best continuity errors. When Chakotay is organizing his BUddy System for former Maquis, one of the people in the mob is a female Vulcan. This contradicts Blood Fever which stated there were no female Vulcans on the crew to take care of Vorick's Seven Year Itch (AKA Pon Far). Admittedly, this episode was a target-rich environment for stupid.
Yeah. That fixes the rest of it. The programming could be a generic "take over the ship for the Maquis," and Mind Melding shares your mind, so it could share the programming. That could even have been the reason he chose a Vulcan. Though then you have the issue of how to make it accidental. I guess maybe the guy recorded it ahead of time to send, and then it gets sent out on his death by mistake?
@@ZipplyZane if the mind meld just shares the programming, why is it only used on the former Maquis? The actions here, melding with only the former maquis only make sense under very, very specific circumstances, otherwise he should have just started with Janeway.
@@EatThePath That does make it unlikely that transferring the program was an intentional part of the plan. But it does make sense if the programming was for the Maquis to take over, and Tuvok was free to improvise the how but not the what.
What always puzzles me about this one: why wasn't Paris included? He may not have been part of Chakotay's crew, but he was a Maquis, which is all that Teero's interested in.
I think Vulcans having mind control abilities is not that far fetched. You ever seen TOS? Spock was able to mind meld with robots and space probes. Their abilities were always whatever the writers needed then to be.
"Let's fix problems at the script phase, rather than after it's been broadcast..." And with that one line I'm now curious to find out what Chuck thought of the Star Wars sequel trilogy...
This kind of story needs to be a 2 parter. One for the mystery and one for the induced rebellion. But here the mystery didn't work too well and the rebellion had to be quickly reversed in the last 5 minutes.
"Voyager's where potential goes to die." This summary really makes it sound like a terrible series for me. I hate seeing wasted potential. It's why I hate looking in the mirror so much.
There are some really fantastic episodes in voyager, but there are so many episodes and so many potential plot lines and the fact that they almost never have to worry about supplies just shows how little planning and how little effort went into making it anything more than Star Trek the next generation the next generation.
Something that's always bothered me about this show: the XO, pilot, chief engineer, and head of security were all maquis from the start (though granted the head of security was a double agent), every department head except the captain and chief stewards (who died in the pilot episode, which is why the stewardship department are run by a triage nurse AI and an incompetent hitchhiker), so clearly stealing the ship for the Maquis like Tom Riker did with the Defiant was the plan from day one. This plot would've made a lot more sense in season 1, is my point.
Know what I would have done? Replace the rogue Maquis with a Cardassian who brainwashed Tuvok and convince him to do the mind meld stuff. Bring in a guest star to do investigating in the Alpha Quadrant while Voyager can be an action set piece with the crew trying their best not to hurt the mind controlled crew. Resolution can be to find the Cardassian who reveals that he blames everything on the Federation and wanted to hurt them the only way he could. Then transmit the thing that would break the control. Guest star could have been Worf or maybe even Garak.
Problem is they already did the "sleeper agent" thing in Voyager multiple times. How many times has the whole 'traitor' theme been played out? I think it's around half a dozen. This whole motivation thing probably could have been fixed with a single line of like "The Federation will pay for what they did." making it be about misplaced anger and just wanting to hurt as many Starfleet personal as possible. Any any rate it was all redundant and pointless.
I can honestly argue that the alien that was messing with the Voyager crew makes more sense and is more justifiable than many of the other stupid episode plots in all of Star Trek. Because with Q and a wide variety of other super powerful aliens it is established in the Star Trek universe that there are a bunch of aliens out there who will either be curious about or just want to mess with random starships. They're both still stupid, but at least one makes sense, in a random mess with other people sort of way.
EASTER EGG i never noticed/i forgot chakotay's ship was the valjean! QED janeway is canonically javert! chuck...one day... sing Stars in the janeway voice for us... i will write paridy words for it if you prefer...
7:20, didn't they do something similar with that episode where Geordi is turning into an alien? Extrapolate information from a previous recording? You're just taking someone else's work and claiming it as your own, aren't you Tom?
At least in “Identity Crisis” all the information Geordi used was in the holographic recording, it just hadn’t be noticed before. Here Tom makes some crap up, which I doubt would even work, seen as both he and Torres stood in the same place as Tuvok when they discovered Tabor’s body!
This might have been salvaged as a Season 1 episode as part of the Seska arc or in Season 2 as the reveal for Jonas. Getting revenge on Tuvok as a turncoat, messing with Tom given his past and pushing B'Elanna into full Klingon fury would have worked then and made use of the Maquis presence on-board back when it was still relevant both in-show and in the wider universe. That could have been a romp at least. They had the opportunity via the basic premise to explore the morality of Maquis methods and how far is too far that way in the same kind of way that 'The Darkness and the Light' did for Kira and clarify why one or two others like B'Elanna actually joined. They would never do that though because that's not what Voyager was for in the eyes of creators Berman, Piller and Taylor and the Studio and Network executives, to them Voyager is the light, episodic alternative to serious sci fi just as Gene would have wanted and because let's face it UPN and Paramount didn't get a sophisticated show because they simply didn't want one, they wouldn't keep paying for it if they weren't happy. No use moaning about that, the moneymen got EXACTLY what they were paying for most weeks, Trek fanfic with little continuity. It's pretty obvious that they were running out of safe Trek ideas for this incarnation to burn through and they dipped into the reject pile of holdovers from a few seasons ago, hence why the whole plot is redundant, the circumstances in-universe where this would have been relevant had changed too much and they had invested too much time to back down and do something else when someone realised that. So they just went ahead anyway and hoped no one would notice. Why get angry when it's too typical for words?
Eh, the part about the mind control spreading makes perfect sense. It's a mind meld. You share minds. So Tuvok could share the programming. I'd assume that was part of why he was chosen. The part about taking over the ship? Probably just a generic command to take over whatever ship they were on. The reason for activating him? Yeah, that's a plot hole.
For all marquis stuff. Chakotay probably wore that Indian thing. As for everyone else, maybe it was all out on a computer chip, put it in a replicator, you have it back.
You could have all the Marquis Mandchurian Candidated (including Tuvok). His Vulcan training and his status as a double agent would have been his way out of the competition. After the programming, monarchy would feel violated and have a reason to be apologetic and integrate with Starfleet.
@SFDebris Red, I deleted my comment once I realized I was incorrect and didn't see your response until it appeared in my email. Not sure why I thought it was Universal.
The Maquis were set up in 2 episodes of TNG and got developed in 8 of DS9. Come Voyager, where they were supposed to get main focus after two series of buildup and the writers go: "Oh yeah, the Maquis exist!..........Anyways, salamanders."
Seems to me like the plan was straightforward. Test the effectiveness of his mind control, humiliate Starfleet in the process, and possibly gain the only Marquis crew still alive so he could restart it with him as the leader. The guy hates spoon-heads. And if you put all that work into brainwashing a Vulcan, and now had the opportunity to see if your methods were successful, wouldn't you try it out? The only problem with the episode is that it was split between mystery and mutiny, and neither plot got enough time to become all that strong. The overall theme of mind-control and freewill also wasn't explored or confronted in any detail.
How does he end up 'in control' of a Maquis crew that is decades from the nearest Cardassian? One that he can only contact by trojan messages attached to an experimental Federation project. It's one thing to want to use resources you've developed; sunk cost fallacy is a thing. But by the time you're fighting weasels so you can deliver the mail, most people have realized they've gone off the rails. See, the thing about brain washing Vulcans so you can mind control yourself a crew... is that there are (at the least) _billions_ of them wandering in and around the Federation, most of whom could be abducted and brainwashed with less effort and more utility than getting a message to Tuvok.
@@boobah5643 According to what I read on Memory Alpha, he ordered Tuvok and the others to get Voyager back to him as quickly as possible. That means no stops or interventions or exploring, as Janeway was doing. In theory, they could have gotten the ship back within years if they found/stole technology, or utilized unethical means similar to how the Equinox did. That includes turning Voyager into a warship that could have stolen resources and defended itself better against any threats. Another opportunity for him would have been to order the Marquis to send data to him about any discoveries they found in the Delta Quadrant that could benefit him immediately. He wouldn't need to use Starfleet's mail at that point. Voyager would break contact with Starfleet and try to establish a means of communicating with Teero directly. Tuvok was the only one Teero had access to. You think Teero can wander into Starfleet HQ and abduct a Vulcan?
I love Voyager, sure there were mistakes. But let's hope you know everyone should be well past the farting infront of one another phase before marriage.
This is obviously one of those deep culture war divides between modern attitudes toward relationships and traditional ones that believe in saving yourself until marriage. 😉
Kind of reminds me of a portion of the anime/manga series called "Death Note" In it we have a Bad Guy with a Magic Killing Book, who later has his memory of the murders he committed wiped, and joins the force looking for the killer. In gathering information, he stops to consider if it could really be himself who is this killer, since a lot of the evidence seems to suggest it (as far as I remember, haven't seen the complete series in years).
You're underselling it. This is a scheme by the villain to manipulate everyone - including his unknowing self - in order to not only wriggle out of multiple seemingly-inescapable traps, but restore his memories at a later time in an ideal situation to avoid suspicion. And this is in a show that relishes every detail of the cat-and-mouse game being played out.
@@Redshirt434 His time in the Maquis was more eventful than the "long eventful career" Malcolm Reed had from 2150 to early 2151 when he joined the Enterprise.
This episode is just so lazy. Janeway was reaching for Bond villain ineptitude when she put the bad guy in jail and then left his computer access in place. Whoopsie.
I like the idea of a sleeper agent being activated years after the group's cause is long over. I think this plot would work better set in the Alpha Quadrant.
It certainly osn't as dumb as Chuck makes it sound. The Maqis have long been shown to have varied reasons brining them to the cause, from petty vengence for the occupation, to the romanticosed anti federation resistance of Eddington on DS9.
It's doing it on Voyager that makes it dumb.
@@chrisw207 I really wish PIC focused on answering all the deconstruction DS9 did since I feel almost all of its arguments are hallow and could be easily counted. In a Post Dominion War Federation, Eddington would sadly be seen as a heroic figure when he really shouldn't. A storyline where Picard has to deal with his cult of personality would be great but that isn't going to happen. If anything, Alex Kurtzman would see Eddington as a purely heroic man of action.
Honestly, if you just made the trigger be something random the basic premise is easily workable. The trigger does actually make it that absurd.
@@wdcain1PIC only dealt with DS9 in its last season and only in regards to the Founders since they chose one as the antagonist. LD and PROD are better suited since they’re only a decade separated from the Dominion War instead of a generation.
Watching movies in the holodeck is the kind of idea that quickly becomes more awesome the more you think about it. Imagine any given sci-fi spectacle film of the last few decades. Now imagine what it'd be like to watch the action take place in front of you, not on a screen, but as a three-dimensional presentation with full tactile realism. Out of everything Star Trek's cooked up, *that* might be the one idea I lament not having in our century the most.
@SFDebris I'm a longtime fan of your work. I remember thinking in 2011 or so that eventually you'd run out of material, but the current leadership of Paramount has pretty much made that impossible. I'm 40 and I look forward to watching your reviews of Strange New Worlds in my 60s.
“You can’t make your villain hyper competent, and then explain everything else he does with ‘and he’s fucked in the head’ “. Lex Luther in BvS anyone?
1:02 I can’t believe it took 7 years for them to name Chakotay’s Maquis ship!
After seven years, I'm astonished that the writers even remembered that Chakotay HAD a ship.
The Val Jean was named in Caretaker
@@Redrally The name is only referred to in “Repression”. The closest it got to “Caretaker” was a line cut from “Parallax” where it was called Zola.
I can’t get enough of these videos. Good thing are so many.
This reminds me of the Simulation episode where Tuvok created a security training program to deal with a Maquis rebellion and it malfunctioned and tried to take over.
Also, why have it be a Maquis? Just have the bad guy be a Cardassian who has made it his quest to purge the Maquis from the galaxy and who used to be in the Obsidian Order, "I may not have been able to save my world from destruction, but I can fulfill the one mission I was good at... murdering freedom fighters."
There's the True Way, which Chuck rightfully lambasted for being so ineffective and pointless in DS9. (STO did attempt to make greater use of them at least).
1:08 I remember that Voyager got really good at teasers. Janeaway slowly removing her black leather gloves befor torturing a prisoner. Janeaway, in a different episode, being played by a completely different actress. A flashback to Starship Voyager being constructed and SevenOfNine was there.
The episode would then explain how. (For instance: How the other woman impersonated Janeaway) because it's easier than explaining why. That's the only one I remember, but there were several episodes like: "Here's an incongruous thing...and here's how it was done" Yes but WHY was it done?
The gloves episode was good though.
You missed one of the best continuity errors. When Chakotay is organizing his BUddy System for former Maquis, one of the people in the mob is a female Vulcan. This contradicts Blood Fever which stated there were no female Vulcans on the crew to take care of Vorick's Seven Year Itch (AKA Pon Far). Admittedly, this episode was a target-rich environment for stupid.
Honestly, I'd have Tuvok being activated as a mind controlled sleeper agent happen completely by accident.
Yeah. That fixes the rest of it. The programming could be a generic "take over the ship for the Maquis," and Mind Melding shares your mind, so it could share the programming. That could even have been the reason he chose a Vulcan.
Though then you have the issue of how to make it accidental. I guess maybe the guy recorded it ahead of time to send, and then it gets sent out on his death by mistake?
@@ZipplyZane if the mind meld just shares the programming, why is it only used on the former Maquis? The actions here, melding with only the former maquis only make sense under very, very specific circumstances, otherwise he should have just started with Janeway.
@@EatThePath That does make it unlikely that transferring the program was an intentional part of the plan. But it does make sense if the programming was for the Maquis to take over, and Tuvok was free to improvise the how but not the what.
@@EatThePath Maybe it could've been a Cardassian plot to wipe out the Maquis cell or make them defect.
What always puzzles me about this one: why wasn't Paris included? He may not have been part of Chakotay's crew, but he was a Maquis, which is all that Teero's interested in.
I think Vulcans having mind control abilities is not that far fetched. You ever seen TOS? Spock was able to mind meld with robots and space probes. Their abilities were always whatever the writers needed then to be.
If I was in Neelix's mess hall with a dead body, I'd leave the lights out too. Less likely for him to find and cook the body.
That won’t stop him, he’ll just have an excuse this time!
That thumbnail looks like tuvok is giving Chakotay a surprise
Neelix was a sleeper agent and is actually a competent soldier.
I choked on my drink when I read your comment... thank you
LOL!
"Let's fix problems at the script phase, rather than after it's been broadcast..."
And with that one line I'm now curious to find out what Chuck thought of the Star Wars sequel trilogy...
Let's not and say we didn't, because I would rather Chuck spend that time on reviewing good shows, like Fullmetal alchemist or Trigun.
This kind of story needs to be a 2 parter. One for the mystery and one for the induced rebellion. But here the mystery didn't work too well and the rebellion had to be quickly reversed in the last 5 minutes.
Can't disagree with any of the critique, but this is still one of my most rewatchable episodes! Love the mystery part
The paranoid joke had me laughing.
"Voyager's where potential goes to die."
This summary really makes it sound like a terrible series for me.
I hate seeing wasted potential. It's why I hate looking in the mirror so much.
There are some really fantastic episodes in voyager, but there are so many episodes and so many potential plot lines and the fact that they almost never have to worry about supplies just shows how little planning and how little effort went into making it anything more than Star Trek the next generation the next generation.
Something that's always bothered me about this show: the XO, pilot, chief engineer, and head of security were all maquis from the start (though granted the head of security was a double agent), every department head except the captain and chief stewards (who died in the pilot episode, which is why the stewardship department are run by a triage nurse AI and an incompetent hitchhiker), so clearly stealing the ship for the Maquis like Tom Riker did with the Defiant was the plan from day one.
This plot would've made a lot more sense in season 1, is my point.
SfDebris post? This is a holy time.
Know what I would have done? Replace the rogue Maquis with a Cardassian who brainwashed Tuvok and convince him to do the mind meld stuff.
Bring in a guest star to do investigating in the Alpha Quadrant while Voyager can be an action set piece with the crew trying their best not to hurt the mind controlled crew.
Resolution can be to find the Cardassian who reveals that he blames everything on the Federation and wanted to hurt them the only way he could. Then transmit the thing that would break the control.
Guest star could have been Worf or maybe even Garak.
oh my gods... the rubble of cardassia joke... i had to spit my tea back in the cup...
Problem is they already did the "sleeper agent" thing in Voyager multiple times. How many times has the whole 'traitor' theme been played out? I think it's around half a dozen.
This whole motivation thing probably could have been fixed with a single line of like "The Federation will pay for what they did." making it be about misplaced anger and just wanting to hurt as many Starfleet personal as possible.
Any any rate it was all redundant and pointless.
Maquis season! Cardassian season! Maquis season! Cardassian season! Maquis season FIRE!
I can honestly argue that the alien that was messing with the Voyager crew makes more sense and is more justifiable than many of the other stupid episode plots in all of Star Trek.
Because with Q and a wide variety of other super powerful aliens it is established in the Star Trek universe that there are a bunch of aliens out there who will either be curious about or just want to mess with random starships.
They're both still stupid, but at least one makes sense, in a random mess with other people sort of way.
I have no idea who these people are that he's naming but goddamn do I love to listen to him ripe the ever-loving-shit outta them. Poor bastards.🤣
EASTER EGG i never noticed/i forgot chakotay's ship was the valjean! QED janeway is canonically javert!
chuck...one day... sing Stars in the janeway voice for us... i will write paridy words for it if you prefer...
0:33 - The shadow looks like Guybrush Threepwood.
7:20, didn't they do something similar with that episode where Geordi is turning into an alien? Extrapolate information from a previous recording? You're just taking someone else's work and claiming it as your own, aren't you Tom?
At least in “Identity Crisis” all the information Geordi used was in the holographic recording, it just hadn’t be noticed before. Here Tom makes some crap up, which I doubt would even work, seen as both he and Torres stood in the same place as Tuvok when they discovered Tabor’s body!
This might have been salvaged as a Season 1 episode as part of the Seska arc or in Season 2 as the reveal for Jonas. Getting revenge on Tuvok as a turncoat, messing with Tom given his past and pushing B'Elanna into full Klingon fury would have worked then and made use of the Maquis presence on-board back when it was still relevant both in-show and in the wider universe. That could have been a romp at least.
They had the opportunity via the basic premise to explore the morality of Maquis methods and how far is too far that way in the same kind of way that 'The Darkness and the Light' did for Kira and clarify why one or two others like B'Elanna actually joined. They would never do that though because that's not what Voyager was for in the eyes of creators Berman, Piller and Taylor and the Studio and Network executives, to them Voyager is the light, episodic alternative to serious sci fi just as Gene would have wanted and because let's face it UPN and Paramount didn't get a sophisticated show because they simply didn't want one, they wouldn't keep paying for it if they weren't happy. No use moaning about that, the moneymen got EXACTLY what they were paying for most weeks, Trek fanfic with little continuity.
It's pretty obvious that they were running out of safe Trek ideas for this incarnation to burn through and they dipped into the reject pile of holdovers from a few seasons ago, hence why the whole plot is redundant, the circumstances in-universe where this would have been relevant had changed too much and they had invested too much time to back down and do something else when someone realised that. So they just went ahead anyway and hoped no one would notice. Why get angry when it's too typical for words?
Eh, the part about the mind control spreading makes perfect sense. It's a mind meld. You share minds. So Tuvok could share the programming. I'd assume that was part of why he was chosen.
The part about taking over the ship? Probably just a generic command to take over whatever ship they were on.
The reason for activating him? Yeah, that's a plot hole.
For all marquis stuff.
Chakotay probably wore that Indian thing. As for everyone else, maybe it was all out on a computer chip, put it in a replicator, you have it back.
Maybe it was a leftover plot form season 2?
You could have all the Marquis Mandchurian Candidated (including Tuvok). His Vulcan training and his status as a double agent would have been his way out of the competition. After the programming, monarchy would feel violated and have a reason to be apologetic and integrate with Starfleet.
An obvious Vulcan nerve pinch and they can't tell? After ALL the examples they've had? Come on, Doctor.
@SFDebris Red, I deleted my comment once I realized I was incorrect and didn't see your response until it appeared in my email. Not sure why I thought it was Universal.
The Maquis were set up in 2 episodes of TNG and got developed in 8 of DS9. Come Voyager, where they were supposed to get main focus after two series of buildup and the writers go:
"Oh yeah, the Maquis exist!..........Anyways, salamanders."
Seems to me like the plan was straightforward. Test the effectiveness of his mind control, humiliate Starfleet in the process, and possibly gain the only Marquis crew still alive so he could restart it with him as the leader. The guy hates spoon-heads. And if you put all that work into brainwashing a Vulcan, and now had the opportunity to see if your methods were successful, wouldn't you try it out? The only problem with the episode is that it was split between mystery and mutiny, and neither plot got enough time to become all that strong. The overall theme of mind-control and freewill also wasn't explored or confronted in any detail.
How does he end up 'in control' of a Maquis crew that is decades from the nearest Cardassian? One that he can only contact by trojan messages attached to an experimental Federation project.
It's one thing to want to use resources you've developed; sunk cost fallacy is a thing. But by the time you're fighting weasels so you can deliver the mail, most people have realized they've gone off the rails.
See, the thing about brain washing Vulcans so you can mind control yourself a crew... is that there are (at the least) _billions_ of them wandering in and around the Federation, most of whom could be abducted and brainwashed with less effort and more utility than getting a message to Tuvok.
@@boobah5643 According to what I read on Memory Alpha, he ordered Tuvok and the others to get Voyager back to him as quickly as possible. That means no stops or interventions or exploring, as Janeway was doing. In theory, they could have gotten the ship back within years if they found/stole technology, or utilized unethical means similar to how the Equinox did. That includes turning Voyager into a warship that could have stolen resources and defended itself better against any threats.
Another opportunity for him would have been to order the Marquis to send data to him about any discoveries they found in the Delta Quadrant that could benefit him immediately.
He wouldn't need to use Starfleet's mail at that point. Voyager would break contact with Starfleet and try to establish a means of communicating with Teero directly.
Tuvok was the only one Teero had access to. You think Teero can wander into Starfleet HQ and abduct a Vulcan?
Scary spooky words!
I love Voyager, sure there were mistakes. But let's hope you know everyone should be well past the farting infront of one another phase before marriage.
This is obviously one of those deep culture war divides between modern attitudes toward relationships and traditional ones that believe in saving yourself until marriage. 😉
Kind of reminds me of a portion of the anime/manga series called "Death Note"
In it we have a Bad Guy with a Magic Killing Book, who later has his memory of the murders he committed wiped, and joins the force looking for the killer.
In gathering information, he stops to consider if it could really be himself who is this killer, since a lot of the evidence seems to suggest it (as far as I remember, haven't seen the complete series in years).
You're underselling it. This is a scheme by the villain to manipulate everyone - including his unknowing self - in order to not only wriggle out of multiple seemingly-inescapable traps, but restore his memories at a later time in an ideal situation to avoid suspicion. And this is in a show that relishes every detail of the cat-and-mouse game being played out.
How long was Tuvok even with the Maquis?
Like....weeks!
@@Redshirt434 His time in the Maquis was more eventful than the "long eventful career" Malcolm Reed had from 2150 to early 2151 when he joined the Enterprise.
Anaconda. The snake gave the best performance.
Lol. Are you intentionally setting your release schedule, to mirror the airing schedule of H&I?
Such a shameful waste of the always-captivating Keith Szarabajka
A lesser reviewer would have turned this into 20 minutes of Amogus jokes.
This episode is just so lazy. Janeway was reaching for Bond villain ineptitude when she put the bad guy in jail and then left his computer access in place. Whoopsie.
What a waste of Keith Szarabajka's voice.
Is the Bajoran in the beginning the same actor who voiced Dr. Kynes in Dead Space?