6 Things EVERY BBSHD Mid-Drive Bike Should Have

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  • @dsp4392
    @dsp4392 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    List starts at 1:52:
    1. Rear gears
    2. Aftermarket front gear
    3. Good brakes (hydraulic disc)
    4. Shift sensor
    5. Big battery (20Ah+)
    6. Color display

  • @mick2d2
    @mick2d2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thanks for the video!
    One thing I would definitely add to this list is an "eggrider".
    The factory settings on the BBSHD leave a lot to be desired and by tweaking these, you can get a night and day improvement on how the motor runs.
    *WARNING * This should be done with extreme care after doing the proper research as you can bugger up the controller if you don't know what you're doing!
    It's really not that hard to tweak though and well worth it.
    The only problem is, in order to tweak the motor, you normally have to connect it, via a special USB/COM cable to your laptop which is a real pain, especially when it comes to fine adjustment.
    This is where the "eggrider" comes in!
    It allows you to reprogram the unit on the fly via your mobile phone, so it's really easy to tweak and test, tweak and test.
    It also gives you two, quickly switchable modes which you can use for a street legal mode and a not so street legal mode! ;)
    It has quite a few other features too.
    Sorry for all the "tweaks"! 8)

    • @SlightlyDazed.
      @SlightlyDazed. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for all the info :)

    • @JohnjOcampo
      @JohnjOcampo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Do you have a video tutorial on how to do this, im a bit of a beginner but a very fast visual learner so if you do please drop a link, cheers for the info!

  • @bluedolphin5792
    @bluedolphin5792 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Half throttle grip is another must have for me.

  • @melvinbelcher7606
    @melvinbelcher7606 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I bet this bike would pull the steep grade to my apartment every day on my way from work. That’s right I’m 70 and still working.

  • @rithlim6016
    @rithlim6016 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Who's watching this video in 2020...mid Corona pandemic?! I am! :D

    • @powerlifter3030
      @powerlifter3030 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too, installed my bbshd on my fattie yesterday

    • @arkhamkillzone
      @arkhamkillzone 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just bought my BBS03 and installed my self for Christmas. Just finished installing gear sensor and hydraulic brake sensors. Can't wait to ride it to my mums house which is about 20km away. :)

  • @cia4915
    @cia4915 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have the same kit and i love it. I got the 42 tooth bling ring from lekkie and its nice and fixed the chain line. I hope bafang will come out with faster kit, mabe 3000 watts,that would be fast. Cyclone makes a 3000watt mid drive motor ,mabe i will get a cyclone. thanks for tips and video.

    • @dougfurr5217
      @dougfurr5217 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just swap your current controller with the Ludicrous controller from Lunacycle or the phaserunner from Grin, and your BBSHD with be 3k watt too!

  • @sparkiekosten5902
    @sparkiekosten5902 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6 things you need with a Bbshd......Check!
    I am in the process of building one of these bikes and everything you mentioned I have covered.
    Looks like I am on the right track.
    20Ah 52v battery capable of -[10Kw]- 2.5Kw.....Check
    46 tooth Bling ring....Check
    Eggrider screen....Check
    GearSensor....Check
    Low range rear cogs for climbing and high gear cogs for speed......Check
    Quality brakes......no! Dammit I knew I forgot something!

    • @jayryan7473
      @jayryan7473 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      10kw is 10,000 Watts LOL.

    • @sparkiekosten5902
      @sparkiekosten5902 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jayryan7473 Yeah....Ouch, that is a little high!
      Fixing mistake now.

  • @MYANTIHEROES
    @MYANTIHEROES 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The auto shutoff is a pain with rear suspension , always shutting off over big bumps . Just get used to tapping the brake when changing , does the same thing and saves you the extortionate $40+ price

  • @mick2d2
    @mick2d2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would also say, an “eggrider” for better info, minimalist design and the ability to reprogram the controller on the fly (without a laptop).
    A Cycle Analyst is also a great compliment to the Bafang displays.
    A possibly “long term” investment and perfect compliment to the BBSHD is the Rohloff gear hub. Perfect chain line and higher and lower gear ratios than most derrailuers. Also less prone to damage.

    • @MYANTIHEROES
      @MYANTIHEROES 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      EggRider is the best . Its in depth tweaking really makes you feel in control. Especially being able to control throttle ramp. Also it is tiny . I am into minimalism when it comes to the display , small is discreet and doesnt shout out 'steal me'

    • @mick2d2
      @mick2d2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MYANTIHEROES I agree. The only downside, is I don't think it reads the battery with the same precision as the Cycle Analyst, although, once you've properly tested your battery, and are clear on it's power, limitations etc, I suppose this isn't such a problem.

    • @MYANTIHEROES
      @MYANTIHEROES 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I might have to look into a Rohloff . I switched to single speed because I was snapping too many 8-10 speed chains which cannot stand the torque of the motor. Also the mechanics of a chain flying through a very delicate derailleur at 30-35 mph whilst hammering over road potholes or off road is somewhat scary , the chain below was flapping around jumping off all the time. A chain guide is crucial for this and they attach to the bottom bracket , ISCG05 for most modern MTB or just make your own to stop the slack from the oversized long MTB derailleurs. I use a Paul Melvin tensioner instead of a derailleur and a Connex single speed chain otherwise carrying a chain splitter with you is a must for when you are 10 miles from home and your 10 speed chain bends and snaps . 10 speed chains by design are very weak because the design has to be so thin to go through the derailleur and also fit onto the thin gears on the cassette.

    • @MYANTIHEROES
      @MYANTIHEROES 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mick2d2 Yes and I run a 52v battery , so I don't look at percentage power left , I look at voltage because most displays are made for 48v batteries. The EggRider has a very interesting feature where you can immobilize the power with your cell phone. I havn't used this feature because I use a 6 pound Kryptonite chain and motorbike disc padlock every time I lock my bike up . I live in LA and its the new Bicycle theft capital of the USA .

    • @mick2d2
      @mick2d2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MYANTIHEROES The Rohloff is quite a chunk of money short term, I think all told, with the wheel build and all the other bits and pieces it worked out to about 1400€.
      Saying that, I've broken two Shimano Saints (about 140€ each) and a couple of cheaper derailleurs before fitting the Rohloff.
      Once you badly bend a 10 speed derailleur, it's almost impossible to get it straight enough to change through all the gears again properly. I did this with both Saints, when the sacrificial piece on the frame of my bike, where the derailluer is fixed broke, sending them into the wheel, which mashed the derailluers up pretty badly.
      I've heard people running the Rohloff for over 100K kilometres. It's also designed to be able to be fixed, with some sacrificial elements inside that are designed to break before the gears do.
      It's also great to be able to do sudden huge shifts up or down, although you do need to adjust to easing off the power for the changes. You can't grind it through the gears under power, like you can with a derailleur.
      You also get constant chain tension, perfect chain line and can use much sturdier chains.
      It gives you a huge range of gears too, more than you need for the BBSHD.
      I've done about 5000km on mine so far.
      I tried the locking feature on the Eggrider once and couldn't get back in for a while, so I deactivated it. I never really let my bike out of my sight when I'm out and about, so don't need it.
      I use the Watt hour reading on the Cycle Analyst as my "fuel gauge".

  • @aphexdruqks7751
    @aphexdruqks7751 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You know what really grind your gears? The chain not properly placed on your narrow/wide chainring xD

  • @dougfurr5217
    @dougfurr5217 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a year+ owner of a BBSHD, I agree with much of what is said here. But, IMO a cassette of gears are a waste. Both my BBSHD have been switched to 3 speed and 5 speed IGH's. The 3 speed is more than enough for most road use, and the 5 spd is perfect for hill climbs. All without ugly gear set that can get caked with mud and debris. Hydraulic brakes are a must for MTBs, but not so much for road use. Again, I chose an IGH with internal drum brakes that can not get wet or loose stopping power or get small rocks/ debris in. Drums are great for street, not so much for MTBs tho. With the numerous videos of BBSHDs out, I was hoping for some info not covered by everyone else, like light integration, puck converter uses, contoller programming, phaserunner/ ludicrous controller installation, etc. The info covered here is fairly basic. That is not meant as a bad thing. Many people can still use, and likely search for it, but with the BBSD being nearly 10 years old now, I was expecting some more up to date, and technical info. Well done otherwise.

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends on the terrain I'd say. 5 speed would function, but definitely wouldn't give me the range I'd like to have. In other areas it would be sufficient.

  • @richardcarey169
    @richardcarey169 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did most of these thing to my urban racer, only it has a 3 speed sturmey archer hub, chain alignment was perfect and I didn't need the gear selector cable because you have to stop pedaling on the 3vspeed, I get that speed easy, I even got over 50mph going down a long swallow hill

  • @tonielcock8891
    @tonielcock8891 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just bought the bafang 750w 48v and bought a no suspension claud Butler large mountain bike. So looking forward to fitting.
    A bit concerned about the controller, I did read somewhere there better now. Post were 4 yrs old

  • @2wheeler58
    @2wheeler58 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I thought it was necessary to keep the battery cool ? The company where I got my bike says to...and then too...putting a black bag over the battery would cause it to heat up more since it absorbs heat with the sun shining on it.

  • @wildtimez6445
    @wildtimez6445 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just little more insight to the sensors. You don't need any. I do suggest as I call it the front brake/clutch. Thats all you need. Bike is way more manageable without sensors. For power control. Motor stops on its own with just small back peddle or my only sensor. Which I only use under extreme conditions. I change gear all time no sensor make sure you have lockout on your derailleur. Try get best chain. Im running 2018 giant trance 2 full suspension 150mm travel f n b. Trail enduro mtb. 2nd build not alot bikes out there keep up. Ebike power notgimg like it. Once you can handle the additional weight. Ill try shoot pic. 41mph with just control options snaller wheels on 27.5 and such. Try shoot a pic.

  • @n01928
    @n01928 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have a closeup of the brake levers? Are they diy or did you buy them? I'm having trouble finding a good hydraulic lever with the built in brake cutoff.

  • @BrunoPOWEEER
    @BrunoPOWEEER 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Wooowww very very nice video you covered lots of details!!! Great channel mate... SUBSCRIBED for more POWEEEEEERR ohhh yeaaahhh

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nice to have you Bruno! Love your videos, anyone watching the BoltonEbikes channel should subscribe to you too!

    • @BrunoPOWEEER
      @BrunoPOWEEER 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Bolton Ebikes hahaaaaa yeahhh I’m watching your videos here... you’re helping lot of people out there... keep up te good work =]

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks! Keep up with those crazy powered whatever you're making!

  • @westmibaddrivers2573
    @westmibaddrivers2573 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lots of videos about Ebikes, Few about E-trikes.. but I found the video to be helpful. I am adding the bafang to a Terra Trike Rover next month. This is a tadpole recumbent trike, (entry level trike, only 8 speeds). Looking forward to it.

    • @kirkjones9639
      @kirkjones9639 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I run one on a Catrike Expedition, with a 53T chainring and a 15 speed SRAM XO 10-50T setup. Damn thing can growl up any hill and is wicked fast.

    • @westmibaddrivers2573
      @westmibaddrivers2573 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kirkjones9639 well I am slowly doing the video shoot of my build for my Bent channel (Ranging Rover). And yes, I am getting very specific as to How i do each step, and what tools are needed, etc.. its a nice slow project. I still have to buy the battery and 2 cables to finish it, but this COV shutdown has put a crimp in the finances..

    • @nihilisticsoup2919
      @nihilisticsoup2919 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just can't get with the visuals of recumbent riding and the pointing and sniggering from high schoolers is quite off putting. He who rides recumbents is likely he who wears his bossier halfs knickers on a Saturday Eve. Just saying.

  • @adventureriders4515
    @adventureriders4515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What size leccy chainring did u put? How many teeth? U didnt mention when u were going through that

  • @kirkjones9639
    @kirkjones9639 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the BCD of the chainring? Why doesn't it look like a Velomobile? I was thinking of a SRAM XO 15 speed 10-50T cassette. Do you think that will give me enough range, without putting too much stress on the chain? Very nice video, by the way. Clear, concise and informative.

  • @LeedHD
    @LeedHD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello very nice video, but i was wondering what size your lekkie bling ring is ??? It looks like a 42T

  • @mickcarr5031
    @mickcarr5031 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, can tell me where you got the battery cover bag please, excellent idea, is it waterproof? are these kits, controllers etc all waterproof? - I tend to wrap mine in a plastic bag just incase. thanks.

  • @rdkuless
    @rdkuless 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you help..? I have tried every full color display that is offered by Bafang.. Problem: every review is done inside and they look beautiful and clear... BUT..Once you take them out into the full sunlight (where you would actually use your ebike) the display is impossible to see.. Do you know if there are compatible displays for Bafang that are "SunLight Readable"..? I need to monitor my wattage consumption, Speed and Power level to match it to the best gear... I have a Solar Trailer and i need to optimize by using the least watts. I have not tried the DC-P18c or the TFT-850c yet... they are expensive and once you put them on the bike you can't return them. I can't keep wasting money trying every display that bafang offers. LOLI notice that you even filmed this in the shade of the building.. Or do you know if they offer a display like the 961 or 965 with a Watt/volt/speed indicator.. Those don't have any visibility problems.. :). Thanks Robb PDX USA

  • @GopalanSampath
    @GopalanSampath 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oooooh! Enclosing the high power battery in Nylon cover; wot abt cooling mate; recipe for frying the stuff one whole lot????

  • @djc7039
    @djc7039 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to see inside the battery bag and battery dimensions. I am having a hard time finding a battery that will fit my full suspension MTB

  • @markweatherall7437
    @markweatherall7437 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, I Just came across your video, thanks. Could I just ask please how many teeth lekkie front ring did you go for to reach 36mph? Been on thier website and they have varius teeth options. Thanks.

  • @kimhyeongjinful
    @kimhyeongjinful 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    G'day Kyle,
    hope you are well mate.
    I watched some of your video then I made a decision to purchase BBSHD with 48v battery 6 months ago, installed on my Merida Crossway 40.
    I still remember on my first riding, it was just fantastic, a while new world.
    The 2 years old factory optioned Kenda tires didn't have any issues before however they were punctured within the next few weeks so I let them go. I bought specialized sawtooth 2bliss tires (I love this one the most) after that but ended within 2 months, the next one was Schwalbe Energizer plus greenguard, then now Continental ridetour.
    I think it is the time to move to TUBELESS.
    What do you reckon?
    Cheers,
    Jin

  • @ninjaman4119
    @ninjaman4119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where can I find the battery bag? Very helpful and informative video!

  • @v1ncen715
    @v1ncen715 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are those shimano brakes 'with cut off built in'? Built-in from factory, or did you add a magnet and magnet sensor from Bafang kit?

  • @patientestant
    @patientestant 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This makes me more inclined to get a purpose built electric bike. I was thinking about just adding a more powerful motor than my 250w hub motor, but the hydraulic brakes would be safer and other features.

  • @arthurthompson9130
    @arthurthompson9130 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I look forward to your videos, they are full of helpful & practical tips. I own a Rad Mini (2019 Model) and thinking about increasing my gear rang with a mid pinion gear box. What do you think about that configuration. Is it doable?

  • @stefx7363
    @stefx7363 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi. Do you have a link to those Shimano hydraulic brake levers with integrated cutoff sensor? Thanks!

  • @dougfurr5217
    @dougfurr5217 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6 Things every BBSHD really needs:
    1- 52v battery pack(58.8v)
    2- Ludicrous Controller from Lunacycle(3000w output)
    3-10 are whatever suites your needs

  • @3dkiller
    @3dkiller 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    you do not need a shift sensor if your using internal gear hub, like a shimano nexus 7. It instantly changes gears.

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd still recommend it. With a mid-drive and internal hub my experience is that letting off the power is still the best choice.

    • @jpjay1584
      @jpjay1584 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      completely wrong!
      internal - external, both gears need to have no stress from the motor while shifting.

  • @Todd66
    @Todd66 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hahaha look how young you look there! ;) I just bought a BBSHD 52V. I’m going to convert my schwinn to a ebike.

  • @paulschmidtke425
    @paulschmidtke425 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have vbrakes on mine they work fine I finger lockup running schwalbe big Apple 2.1 tyres,and no disc drag

  • @rainmakr20
    @rainmakr20 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the look of that bike!

  • @SeantheRD
    @SeantheRD 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great video. Thanks for not making it 20 minutes long. Short and to the point! Do you recommend the brake cut off? I was just going to go with the shift sensor. I mean, I'm not pedaling and braking at the same time so wont the power cut off anyways?

    • @diggler2002
      @diggler2002 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree. Brake cut off unnecessary.

    • @mikethomas6051
      @mikethomas6051 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No the bbshd actually still powers for a few seconds after u stopped peddling, you can adjust this with programming cable but i'll tell you from the point of someone whos had bbshd for 3yrs its helped me but saying that, if you have powerful brakes u can live without them, i believe some countries including uk require them.

  • @Kegel_Destroyer
    @Kegel_Destroyer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it possible to put an electric conversion kit on my Trek Roscoe 8? It has a 28T chainring and i dont think a larger chainring could fit. The frame like bends around it. Im new to MTB and even more so to EBikes.

  • @jasondundom1390
    @jasondundom1390 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much would it cost me to add this set up (or equivalent ) to a Trek Mb for speed, street only ?

  • @melvinbelcher7606
    @melvinbelcher7606 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I will have get that electric bike pump when I can,it is awesome.

  • @turkeyssr
    @turkeyssr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The link to the kit is dead. I assume they're no longer available based upon your more recent videos. Let us know. Thanks!

  • @fxdeuce
    @fxdeuce 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am seriously considering converting a fat bike. I have been researching and watching lots of videos. I was going to save up and buy a production model with a rear hub motor, but after watching videos it looks like mid drive is the way to go. Problem is, I can't afford a factory built mid drive model, and I like to put things together. There is one nagging question I have regarding the speed sensor. Is there a proper place to put the magnet on the spoke or does it even matter? A follow up question: can you install a different style of speed sensor (forgot the tech term for that configuration).
    Thanks for your time and your easy to understand presentation.

    • @iIiWARHEADiIi
      @iIiWARHEADiIi 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      On ebay or amazon were a lot of fat bikes with price tag between 600-1500€. Only question which grade gear they have.
      Somewhere here on youtube was another video about the bufang mid motors. Everything regarding e-kit what was described in this video already included in the package.
      On that videos people put sensor close to back shifter, less to cut pipe channels, but potentially more dirt there.

  • @patrickchubey3127
    @patrickchubey3127 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You mention a shift sensor. Does the BBSHD come with one or do you have to buy it separately? Also, if the giveaway item is an ebike, would you consider me as a recipient? I live in the mountains and as I wheel into my 6th decade of life, riding just isn't getting any easier.

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That I'd a separate item. And I do plan on a bike giveaway again at 10k subs. :)

  • @pjanoo6973
    @pjanoo6973 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is a 48v 20ah battery enough for this bike or should I get a 48v 30ah or two 20ah batteries and connect it to the charger port of the first battery

  • @fastfridaysfacts3694
    @fastfridaysfacts3694 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does the BBSHD have drag when the battery goes out, or what I'm asking is can you ride it like a regular bike without the battery?

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      A small amount, but can certainly be pedaled like a regular bike.

  • @gordonwest2655
    @gordonwest2655 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks again for sharing your time and experience! Very helpful.

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Gordon! I'm glad I could help! Come back soon for more videos

  • @johnhoward7298
    @johnhoward7298 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I need some advice ( I meant to say I NEED some advice ) !! I haven't been on a bike before Nixon was in office !! Now I live 2mi. from work , soooo.... I'm thinking ... MAYBE , I could ride a ebike to @ from work . The 2 main problems I see with it are 1 cost ( of bike @ acc. ) @2 maintaince ( well while I'm at it 3 I need cargo capacity .. a 19 qt engle dry box cooler to be exact ) What should I try to buy ( other than more life insurance ) ?

    • @kirkjones9639
      @kirkjones9639 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Install a Bafang on a Catrike and use a B.O.B. trailer. Worked for me.

    • @johnhoward7298
      @johnhoward7298 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kirkjones9639 what is a catrike

    • @kirkjones9639
      @kirkjones9639 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnhoward7298 Recumbent trike. Great for us old guys, that have heart problems, too many back surgeries. There a lot of different brands and price points. After trying a bunch of the different ones out, I chose the Catrike Expedition. On my 5th one (Candy Purple) now. catrike.com and for a bunch of people who can answer any questions bentrideronline.com

    • @johnhoward7298
      @johnhoward7298 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kirkjones9639 thanks I understand what You're talking about now ( I'd get killed on one ... My Wife would LOVE for Me to get one though )

    • @kirkjones9639
      @kirkjones9639 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnhoward7298 You're multiple times safer on a recumbent trike, as opposed to a bike. Just don't tell your wife. An odd thing I've noticed over the years, car drivers for some reason they get a kick out of us being on the road. They wave at you, give you all kinds of room, I've even had them hold up traffic, so I could get out of a parking lot. Take yer life in your hands, riding a bike as far I'm concerned.

  • @anthonymc76
    @anthonymc76 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would recommend the stabilizer bar sold by California Ebikes. The BBSHD has so much torque it will become loose and chew up your bottom bracket shell.

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      If properly torqued that shouldn't happen, but if running more power than stock I would definitely use that! I have not had any stock BBSHD motors comes loose.

    • @HighVoltageKits
      @HighVoltageKits 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The same shop sells a tool for the bbshd that allows you to use q proper torque wrench. If you stick it on with 80 to 100 ft lbs and get the mounting plate flat as specified it wont shift.

  • @phillip_ino
    @phillip_ino 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was thinking about buying a mid drive kit for my $300 Diamondback with crappy cable disk brakes....but after watching this I think it actually makes sense now to buy a purpose built ebike for safety sake.

  • @dougfurr5217
    @dougfurr5217 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    #1 item needed by all BBSHD owners...........3000 watt Ludicrous controller from Lunacycles. Ditch the display(less wires). Agree with most the rest.....my$.02

  • @Fitzninja1
    @Fitzninja1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will you tell me where you found the triangle battery bag. I can't seem to find one anywhere.

  • @brokeandbrokenbikes9272
    @brokeandbrokenbikes9272 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would there be any issue with having a 58ah battery? Would that overload the circuitry?
    I recently built my bike and am having troubles with it randomly shutting off. Also if there any real reason to have a speedo sensor on the bike? Does it aid in functionality?

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      More ah = more range. No downside aside from cost and weight. Speedometer sensor is necessary on a mid drive like this. Won't work without it.

  • @chasewinters7050
    @chasewinters7050 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is your shop? And is there a better place i could ask you a few questions.

  • @patrickbonin137
    @patrickbonin137 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    HELLO KYLE
    I like the TFT screen is this screen suitable on your KT controllers.??? I noticed you had the old style fashioned LCD screen on one bike and then the new Bafang TFT on your last bike shown ??
    One tech question why do rear Bafang rear hubs don't have a electronic gearshift inbuilt gearbox. If theres space for a 8 speed cassette and a set of planetary gears why can't they put all bits in one unit?
    This would get rid of of all those shimano bits...cassettes would disappear..chains and cables and quickshiters as well. Motor and gear box together with a direct drive shaft via a reduction box to the pedals.I propose to call it a e fat velex....A bit like the old solex 2 stroke bikes in France.
    Ps don't forget my enquiry for those bits ....will send you photo of rear plug when it stops raining ...5 days of non stop cats and dogs and no space to get the bike stand out.😁
    A good video to make would be how to fit brake lights on e fat bike using strip leds fastened to the rear frame support .😎

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Patrick, that particular screen is not compatible with the KT controllers, but I do have a color display, the KT-LCD8H that is. As far as an internal gear set within the hub, Bafang does not have one. It is certainly possible however as I test rode a bike with it at Interbike this year!

  • @melvinbelcher7606
    @melvinbelcher7606 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am a 20 year retired solder and one day I will have enough money saved to own a mid drive a mid drive bike. I am 70 and still working

    • @1975supermike
      @1975supermike 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only £1000 max won't break the bank

  • @1975supermike
    @1975supermike 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did you get hydraulic brakes without that stupid glue on magnet thing ??

  • @mennopieters3512
    @mennopieters3512 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can i buy a shift sensor? Do you have a link im from europe use the bbshd to race against the boosted speed pedelec from my mate but we both keep ruining our cassettes when shifting

  • @djkenny1202
    @djkenny1202 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have discs but they are non hydraulic. Came on my Big Dummy. I don’t really desire changing them. Will they work alright?

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  ปีที่แล้ว

      If adjusted properly they'll work.

  • @lupstarr4379
    @lupstarr4379 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to put a bbshd on a trek stache that has a pf92 bb is this possible without big issues?i know o need a pf92 to bsa adaptor but im concerned about the elevated chainstay and chainring also boost spacing chainline.can you give me any advice?or should i scrap the stache for another bike with a 72mm bb?

  • @Onealmightypod
    @Onealmightypod 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder what thar top speed would be if you opened it up on the road with a narrower tyre more suited to tarmac?

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Perhaps we will know with the new mountain bike coming up!

  • @shaunbriggs77
    @shaunbriggs77 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the same battery as you described in your video. What kind of range would you expect from the battery?

    • @HighVoltageKits
      @HighVoltageKits 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I built a similar bike but slightly bigger battery at 25 amp hours. I can do 60-80 km accross varied terrain including decent hills. This is full throttle use only. Using peddle assist you could go all day easily.

  • @hixyhicks
    @hixyhicks 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello im in the uk.Could you tell me the brand and model of your frame bag please.

  • @lukescholey5872
    @lukescholey5872 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What does “speed unlocked” mean? I have the 1000w and at power level 9 it doesn’t feel as fast as I imagined it would have.

    • @wesdiezy
      @wesdiezy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      speed unlocked means that it removes the street legal speed and power limit.

    • @markweatherall7437
      @markweatherall7437 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Time has passed now, did you get upto speed?

    • @lukescholey5872
      @lukescholey5872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@markweatherall7437 I did yes but it never was enough for me. I ended up getting a Sur Ron X and it’s one of the best decisions I’ve ever made!

    • @JohnjOcampo
      @JohnjOcampo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lukescholey5872 how did you remove the street legal speed?

  • @delj3875
    @delj3875 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Overheating bbshd ? I live in Scotland and only over heating in the hottest of days we don’t get that much heat here. But still I wonder what’s causing it . Tyre pressure ? I have smaller fat tyres 20”. Heavy bike ? Have you come across this problem thanks

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Make sure everything spins freely and you're not running in a gear too high from a stop. Should run easily on a 20" wheel.

  • @jamesschiano6668
    @jamesschiano6668 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone have any information about the the Befang 800 mid drive that is in the Motobecane gravel bike? I'm very interested in this bike but a little nervous about the system and how long it will last. Thanks Jim S

  • @brokejaw
    @brokejaw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    did you use your stock hydrolic brakes and get the cut off accesory or did you buy them integrated?

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I added brake cutoff switches to these.

  • @adventureriders4515
    @adventureriders4515 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the range from the 20 amp hr battery? U didnt say...

  • @thomashamilton4579
    @thomashamilton4579 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    were did you buy the shimano cut of brakes Thanks

  • @paulfennell01
    @paulfennell01 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where is your store located?

  • @timgreen2718
    @timgreen2718 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Kyle. I installed a BBSHD on a 2012 Jamis Dragon 29 a couple months ago. Since it has gotten colder the chain rolls off the chainring most times I stop pedaling. I bought a Lekki 42 tooth and same scenario. The chainring keeps turning when I stop pedaling, even with pedal assist at 0, and with the chain on the most aligned cog in the rear(4th largest in 9 speed). Would a chain guide fix? Any thoughts?

    • @n8sg861
      @n8sg861 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if you have one try leaving the front derailer on as a guide. or yes the chain guides are a good chance too.

  • @innersanctumoccultube278
    @innersanctumoccultube278 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kyle, I love your videos and the whole concept you're presenting here. If you're interested in I partnering with a creative drive train and power delivery systems designer who has unlocked keys to performance, efficiency and all out balls out power that can make just about any bike I've converted dust every bike you've ever showcased, I'd be willing to entertain the idea. If for no other reason than the fact that it would allow me to make more ebike Magick happen. I will be coming out with a conversion kit of each type I have designed soon, so get in touch if you think you or your customers would like bikes that are faster, have more torque, and whose battery life to range ratio is triple, we can talk. All the best to you man. Keep it up. My bikes will dust that Bafang at 48v.
    V-amp-Higher™

    • @jayryan7473
      @jayryan7473 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Inner Sanctum I don't see any reason for that. There are limits to how fast a bicycle should go. You do realize they make electric motorcycles intended for higher speeds right? Whole different ball game than what this video is about.

  • @MantisRay861
    @MantisRay861 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have any issues changing to the outermost gears as far as chain having to bend sideways?

    • @mikethomas6051
      @mikethomas6051 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      U do get issues, lining up may require u to true the hanger alignment but i find most often its just cable tension slack if they don't change as good, the chain ring wears the most.

  • @JamesTsividis
    @JamesTsividis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How far does that go with normal riding across a city?

  • @n8sg861
    @n8sg861 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i am having a heck of a time finding a 48v 13ah battery that will fit my 15.5inch 29er frame. super small triangle on it. any advice for this? i really want it to fit in the triangle, having all that weight on a rear rack is not going to work for the trails.

    • @kirkjones9639
      @kirkjones9639 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Put a battery on the chain stays on each side and run them in series. Keeps the center of gravity low.

  • @davidcostello2818
    @davidcostello2818 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did you get the chainring from m8,please?

  • @2kMario
    @2kMario 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We need more and more about Bafang BBSHD and new one Bafang M510 / M620 Ultra

  • @sh4rkhappy
    @sh4rkhappy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello where u got that nice Triangle battery bag? :)=

  • @stefanwhite100
    @stefanwhite100 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does it damage the motor at all when pushing a bike fitted with a Bafang Mid-drive Motor backwards?

    • @MoyesAdventures
      @MoyesAdventures 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would love to know the same as well. I can't imagine it would, but it would be nice to know

    • @jayryan7473
      @jayryan7473 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MoyesAdventures At the bare minimum it will explode. The whole world feels the fun is worth the risk.

  • @JamesBondJB007
    @JamesBondJB007 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can I just buy the winning prize? Looks cool. How much would it be?

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Feel free to email me at kyle@velomobileshop.com for information on current bikes.

  • @kristianwhiskin1070
    @kristianwhiskin1070 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are the stock front sprockets for the bafang really that terrible? Everyone that uses the bbshd/bbs02 uses the lekkie

    • @-joo3033
      @-joo3033 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The stock one is Really heavy and ugly... And its 46Teeth

  • @videosforcatsanddogs214
    @videosforcatsanddogs214 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How often do you have to replace the chain and cassette?

    • @paulschmidtke425
      @paulschmidtke425 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably half a dozen times a year ,if daily riding of 50+ miles

    • @geegee8625
      @geegee8625 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulschmidtke425 then your bike set up is not corelated
      Possible using the wrong gears when tackling incline
      And using throttle taking on steep hill .
      Do you have a gear shift sensor ?
      That would give your chain much needed protection

  • @evanbell3238
    @evanbell3238 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you put a chain guard on?

    • @dertyberty
      @dertyberty 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It really needs one I have caught my trousers twice in the front ring . First time I had to ask some kids to help me getting my trousers of the teeth and chain as I laid on my side. Lol remember the chain wheel can’t rotate backwards. Beware ...

  • @markweatherall7437
    @markweatherall7437 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great informal video thanks. How many teeth did you have on the bling ring to be able to reach 36mph please?

    • @diversifyingincome6986
      @diversifyingincome6986 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This has been asked twice now. Can't see any reply! I have a BBSHD with 42T chainring. (9 speed rear cassette 11t-32t). I can't anywhere near that speed on mine. Mine is about 25mph I think- it goes up hills great).

    • @diversifyingincome6986
      @diversifyingincome6986 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      52v - 17.5ah battery

    • @markweatherall7437
      @markweatherall7437 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@diversifyingincome6986 just seen your reply bro, thanks.

  • @mr.raiders7029
    @mr.raiders7029 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does it matter which way the cable from the gear sensor goes?

    • @dertyberty
      @dertyberty 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it doesnt

  • @chevyssboy89
    @chevyssboy89 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought QS makes the motor ebike motors out there?? If not then who makes the best of the best ebike motor?? Please answer sir

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends on what you need or want. QS does make good powerful hub motors, but not the "best" in all situations.

    • @chevyssboy89
      @chevyssboy89 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bolton Ebikes then whos make the best motor then?

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chevyssboy89 who makes the best tires? Depends on what you need. Off-road? On road? Hills? Top speed? Lightweight? What is it that you want?

    • @chevyssboy89
      @chevyssboy89 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bolton Ebikes i want on road, off road, high high top speed... basically something to play with have lots of fun with racing!!! Sir thanks

  • @mightfight
    @mightfight 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man 36 MPH must be nice I run a 46T on a Trek Marlin 5 standard 7 speed in the back cant move much over 30 mph and I run a 52V 32 AH 14s10p NCR18650BD cells. I dont think its gearing cuz sometimes I downshift to a lower gear and actually gain speed. I run the 30A continuous profile 24/7 pulling about 1600W all the time sigh.

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would certainly expect more out of that bike. I'd check brakes, rolling resistance of both wheels, any unusual drag on the chain, etc. 1600 watts on the BBSHD with a standard mountain bike at 30mph seems on the slow side.

    • @BrunoPOWEEER
      @BrunoPOWEEER 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      mightfight 30mph on 46T and big battery??????? I easily get 50kmh on a fatbike 42T front 11T back no pedaling with any small and old shitty battery
      You may be getting a massive voltage sag or something... can you watch the voltage on your display or CycleAnalyst after 10-20 seconds full throttle?

    • @BrunoPOWEEER
      @BrunoPOWEEER 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Look what I get up to with 46T
      Pro cyclists vs 1500w road e-bike • Top Speed test on flat • BBSHD motor th-cam.com/video/MjefSotenIU/w-d-xo.html

    • @mightfight
      @mightfight 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BrunoPOWEEER idk but there is a small vibration in the bbshhd at a certain rpm it goes away after the rpm gets higher or lower you can slightly feel it In the pedals I run a 52v pack and sag is about 2 volts 56 off throttle 54 on at 30 amp draw 100% of the time. Now run a 8 speed 11-40t. Yea idk

    • @BrunoPOWEEER
      @BrunoPOWEEER 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      mightfight ohh yeaahh your battery is very healthy very little sag, this is what we expect from a big 10p
      Yeah 11T rear is a must for high speed.
      Vibration you described unfortunately is normal, it’s to do with rotor balancing and machining tolerances. If you pedal it goes away, happens to mine too.

  • @poppa5289
    @poppa5289 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The bbshd runs 30 amps at 48 volts or 28 amps at 52 volts

  • @TrikeSquadron
    @TrikeSquadron 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    36 mph? doesn't that put the bike into the "mo-ped" class according to most legal definitions of e-bike vs a license required mo-ped?

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It wasn't on the road for the test, but if riding legally it can be easily limited to 20mph and 750 watts. :)

    • @BrunoPOWEEER
      @BrunoPOWEEER 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      dregerclock haha here is a real life BBSHD road test vs Pro cyclists th-cam.com/video/MjefSotenIU/w-d-xo.html
      So much POWEEEEEERRR

    • @navidmehdi6
      @navidmehdi6 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      the first rule of fight club also applies here.

    • @dickflinghammer7643
      @dickflinghammer7643 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Stupid laws we don't need. Ignore...

    • @MichaelPoage666
      @MichaelPoage666 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't know where you are, but where I live, cops aren't putting e-bikes on a dyno or whatever to see if they're overpowered. My BBSHD has "750W" stamped on it. I'm no bike doctor, who am I to argue with the good people at Bafang?

  • @Razorokc
    @Razorokc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who's going to start making add-ons and upgrades for lectric XP bikes?

  • @snappyfish
    @snappyfish 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What size lekkie chainring you running?

    • @markweatherall7437
      @markweatherall7437 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I asked the same question but it appears he's ignoring us? :( Did you find out what number teeth lekkie ring for higher speeds?

    • @jayryan7473
      @jayryan7473 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markweatherall7437 More teeth equals higher top speed so I'm assuming it's 46T.

  • @melvinbelcher7606
    @melvinbelcher7606 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice looking bike

  • @1975supermike
    @1975supermike 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I get a link to the brakes pls

  • @Yoel_Yasharala
    @Yoel_Yasharala 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    how do you get into programming mode on the bafang display?

    • @Wayk123
      @Wayk123 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      you have to buy the cable and download bafang software. Connect the cable to display connector of your motor and usb port on PC.

  • @deanoboland
    @deanoboland 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work on video mate

  • @lahsukramuk5251
    @lahsukramuk5251 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How fast it motor get heated up on higher gear

  • @mennopieters3512
    @mennopieters3512 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you program the bbshd to lower the torque to max 80?

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But why would you want to?

    • @mennopieters3512
      @mennopieters3512 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Area13ebikes i dont know if my frame can handle it they sell a version of my bike with a 350w bafang mid drive but on a chain version i have a gates cdx centertrack belt drive also have a weight limit on the frame since its full aluminium 120kg is the max i heard that belt drive bikes the rear triangle must be really stiff but dont know if that's true i have a lekker bike Amsterdam edition non ebike version older one

    • @mennopieters3512
      @mennopieters3512 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Area13ebikes want to use the bike for long distance riding bikepacking so with 20kg of gear including food and such

    • @mennopieters3512
      @mennopieters3512 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I weigh around 75kg btw

  • @melvinbelcher7606
    @melvinbelcher7606 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I sure need that beautiful red mid drive bike here in Reno. I’m 70 and it is hard for me to make it up the grade to get home every day.

    • @jime9305
      @jime9305 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you're 70 and still can "make the grade", you better not quit and start using an ebike, or you'll never make the grade again...keep on pumping pop !!

  • @Hyprmtr
    @Hyprmtr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't mind me, I'm just looking for the Spence comments.

  • @Fitzninja1
    @Fitzninja1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video.