It would be extremely interesting and very valuable for the community if someone hosted a conversation between Dave Snowden, Daniel Smachtenberger, and Daniel Görtz. These three bring together unique perspectives on complexity, systems thinking, the metacrisis and cultural evolution that could lead to a really deep, challenging and fruitful discussion. Snowden’s focus on “scaffolding” and his skepticism of holistic thinking would be a fascinating counterpoint to Görtz’s metamodern vision of integrating new cultural narratives. I believe Smachtenberger could help bridge the two, given his work on meta-crisis solutions and civilization design and overall temperament in talks. It’s a conversation that could really push the boundaries of where we’re at, and leave us with some precious jewels by the end of it.
I agree. If calendars work out I'll have the opportunity to speak with Daniel S later this year. Dave 'd wager would be interested. While I haven't spoken to Daniel G we have had some light touch digital contact and I would for sure be interested to invite him in.
16:16 I think he means weird here in the westernised educated, industrial rich democratic sense of the word. The weirdest people in the world; great book. 🎉
Marvelous discussion!
My first experience of Dave Snowden. He is excellent.
It would be extremely interesting and very valuable for the community if someone hosted a conversation between Dave Snowden, Daniel Smachtenberger, and Daniel Görtz. These three bring together unique perspectives on complexity, systems thinking, the metacrisis and cultural evolution that could lead to a really deep, challenging and fruitful discussion.
Snowden’s focus on “scaffolding” and his skepticism of holistic thinking would be a fascinating counterpoint to Görtz’s metamodern vision of integrating new cultural narratives. I believe Smachtenberger could help bridge the two, given his work on meta-crisis solutions and civilization design and overall temperament in talks.
It’s a conversation that could really push the boundaries of where we’re at, and leave us with some precious jewels by the end of it.
I agree. If calendars work out I'll have the opportunity to speak with Daniel S later this year. Dave 'd wager would be interested. While I haven't spoken to Daniel G we have had some light touch digital contact and I would for sure be interested to invite him in.
@@Voicecraft Awesome. Then the idea is in very good hands, and might very well materialize at some point not too far away in the future.
This is brilliant! Thank you very much for such a rich conversation.
Thank you
This is brilliant. Thank you for this video discussion.
Wow, this covers A LOT!
15:10 This reminds me of the role of the therapist in therapy - moves to quickly support or disrupt the substrate.
Tim, I don't envy you! Maintaining the conversation with Dave is like trying to drink from the firehose.
Can you do a podcast with vimoh. He is Indian atheist rational
16:16 I think he means weird here in the westernised educated, industrial rich democratic sense of the word. The weirdest people in the world; great book. 🎉