Ikr? But they all are comming back after a year still as a happy owners, yet would like to move into solid MTB which is always my recomendation as a do-it-all bike with air fork (with locking) and a 2nd set of wheels with city/asphalt tires and small range casette 9x or 10x 11-36 for roads and 11-42/48 for terrain.
I just ordered my Cooper, thanks so much for the $50 discount!!! I used it to add a fender set to the bike. I have two crazy nice road bikes but sometimes I just want to hop on a bike and roll around the neighborhood. can't wait to get my new bike and test it out.. $350 fora belt drive bike is insane.. Thanks so much Kev!
So, how has it been?? I ride my old CCM with new SA RD3 sp anywhere I feel like. I did 85.5 hilly miles a couple months ago. My SA RD5w is even better. Did 107 miles last week. Easy as pie, even with the 78 lbs. LOL
@@GordoGambler it's a great bike, I love the belt drive, super smooth. Only having 3 gears is not ideal but for rolling around town it's fine. Wish I could afford a Priority 600.
Hey Kev, Just received and rode my new Carmen. This bike is fantastic and exceeds all my expectations. I really like the belt drive. Thanks for inspiring me to take up bike riding again and for recommending such a great bike!
tarstarkusz true..but still relatively light. and soo quiet.. I have similar style bike..an aluminum motobecane cafe 8 with Nexus 8 speed and love it..7500 miles so far.
@@curtn7076 Thats crazy. Like a 9000 km or so. Im around this with my Trek X-Caliber 9 (2015 - orange/black/blue) and I already use 5th complete drivetrain setup. And those are not cheap since it was always a composition of Shimano STX and XT
@@habdman my collection took me a lil over 3 yrs...it took a lot of hustling,odd jobs,saving and trading things here and there to get it done as I have 7 kids,8 grandbabies and 2 more on tha way,so I KNOW THA STRUGGLE IS REAL BRUTHA but it has all definitely been worth it tho.
I love the green paint with tan seat and grips. That is a really nice looking bike. I have been scouring the internet recently in search of a three speed bike, with little success in my price range. The Cooper is a real contender.
$350?....how on earth do Gates pack this much beauty, refinement, & class into the super Cooper for such a giveaway price? They must value quality above profit. It deserves to sell in its thousands. As for the review, Kev takes us on his test ride of the Cooper... His gentle velvet-voiced prose hypnotises us into wanting to order one immediately.!He surely merits his claim to the title of... "The King of the 3Bs." Nice work Kev.
After watching your series of videos around Priority and Brilliant, I broke and bought the Cooper. Looking forward to getting it and riding my first belt drive bike! It wont be in until mid-July, so I will be impatiently waiting...
The coupon code seems to be working on the other bikes. I have the L Train in my cart and it worked. The $30 shipping was surprisingly cheap. Great video, Kev.
I have the Brilliant L Train, thanks in part to KevCentral's video review. I like it a lot. Throwing in my two cents here. 1) This Cooper looks like a bargain to me. Yes, back wheel removal is more difficult on an internally-geared hub, but the three-speed removal is WAY easier than a Nexus 7 or 8 back wheel removal. The bell housing is much simpler and easy to deal with. 2) I've heard you mention the L Train's leather grips and seat more than once. They're vinyl leather, not the real deal. I like the Cooper's rubber grips better. Sorry to be so nit-picky. Love the channel.
I look at the specs. One of the places that costs were cut to make price point is the frame material. The Cooper is 1020 steel. The L Train is 4130. That’s an important difference.
3 speed hub gears are very simple and normally very reliable and can be used for 10s of thousands of miles. There are old British bikes from the early 20th century that still have working 3 speed sturmey archer hub drives and the Nexus 3 speed is pretty much a copy of that. However more than 3 speeds and hub gears normally get a lot more complicated and have a shorter lifespan. So I see a 3 speed hub as a positive even though it has a smaller gear range. Personally I would prefer a fully enclosed chain so the chain is protected from rain and would also be a very low maintenance solution but I realise they aren't very stylish.
I've owned three bikes with the Shimano Nexus 3, along with two Alfine 8, and the Nexus 3 is probably the most practical and easiest shifting of all the internal hub gearboxes, especially after you've tried one of those maddingly kick backwards shifters.
Kev I know you’re 5’10” and I’m a similar height…what size frame did you choose for the L-Train and Cooper? I saw their inseam sizing guide but it’s so hard to know how accurate that is. I’m usually a Medium I’m the Trek bikes, so 18-19” frame generally speaking.
I wonder what the parasitic losses are with the belt drive? On a motorcycle the difference with a chain and belt is great. Aprox 10% parasitic loss when switching from chain to belt. Any thoughts?
Nice bike for cruising. It reminds me of a British built bike (the name escapes me) that I had when I was in my early teens (sans the belt drive of course).
Yes but it is even more common on the continent. Netherlands, Germany, Denmark, France, Czech Republic, southern Poland you gonna find a LOT of those stylish bikes out there
Thanks for the great content. Will you be coming back to the alum comp Schwinn project? I’m now up to where the videos are with my bike and am looking forward to the next stage. Btw, great recommendation on the fork. Huge difference. I couldn’t wait to see what you do with wheels and tires and had to replace the original tires which wore out and also would get punctures all the time. I got Continental cross kings. Again thanks!
Internal shift hubs are great! I have a Nexus 3 gear shifter in my bike. No maintenance at all for the past 2 years and still rides super well. I just don't recommend a 3 gear hub if you live in a city with hills. The 7 speed is probably best there.
Can you tell me what kind of bike is this? I can’t afford anything from brilliant but I like the design for this one and gotham. They look very classic.
Nice bike but the price apparently went up 37.5% since it's now listed at $550. So not as sweet a deal as is was previously - perhaps unless you are a student since I believe they offer a $150 student discount if you qualify for it.
For the experts in the topic, would this bike being 1020 high tensile steel be a concern for a commuter style of bike? I plan on using twice a week for commuting plus fun leisure rides with friends on weekends. I was comparing this one with the L Train which uses chromoly which I like but I don’t see me needing the extra gears and cost more.
Do they make a belt drive bike... that is a single speed.. one that will coast, unlike the fixie? I know a lot of single speed/fixed gears have the flip flop hub. And a belt drive on a fixie would have issues... But a belt drive single speed that will coast... that would be sweet.
I've been lusting after a Priority bike for a couple of years now but was in OTR trucking with no room, now I'm retired in the Philippines and I can't get it here! Infact, it almost impossible to get an internal geared bike and even more so with belt drive. I wish I could be dealer in Makati, they would sell like hotcakes..
Any plans to ride around Florence and continue your historical sight seeing? I think I only saw that on one review, but I loved it !! Keep up the good work. 🇺🇸🚴
Could you do a video on ragley and vitus mountainbikes they look really awsome and well made for their price range especially for the vitus full suspension line
Amazing how much these have increased in price since you reviewed this model. I was checking them out today, as I was also looking at the Priority Gotham…the Cooper is now $550…so my question is, at that price is it still worth it? I’m also concerned about the seating position/angle, as I have the Trek DS and it causes me a numb right hand. The Gotham seems more upright, but I like the styling of the Cooper more. What are your thoughts? I was also looking at some less expensive options like the Kent Ridgeway, which Target has online for $379 for the Transit model (rack and fenders), or $399 for the Sport. My only concern with those is quality of components, as there seems to be some conflicting info between Kent’s website and Target…Kent says Shimano XT rear derailleur, but Target says Shimano Tourney.
Why on earth would you buy a Target or Walmart bike? I already did that and will never buy that garbage again. Spend the extra $ and get something that will last with minimal maintenance. Even my used Citizen Miami foldie is far better quality than any Kent/Huffy/Schwinn/Dynacraft bikes for the same price point [of an off the shelf bike].
@@joellebrodeur1015 the Kent bikes I mentioned are not on the shelf, they’re online only and ship from Kent. They seem to be good quality for the money. I ended up selling my Trek DS and got a Trek Verve, which has the upright riding position I was wanting.
Hello, looks like a price increase to $550 for the Copper - regardless for a 5-10 mile , dry weather, flat but, rough asphalt commute. Would you recommend the Cooper or Ace of Clubs at $499. I'm torn with 3 speed option or lighter aluminum single speed.
What size were you riding? I’m 5’10” and if I recall you’re the same height. Their website says I could go with a large or medium being that my inseam is right around 32”.
Can you do a maintenance video of oils, Greece, etc that you use or can use on your budget bikes to keep them in good running shape for years. But keep in mind that they are budget bikes like $100, or $200 bikes so we don't want to spend alot on Greece, Wd 40. Etc.
Honestly, add fenders and this bike will be brilliant's biggest selling model. It has alot going for it. A steel frame is a bit heavier. But the ride is much less stiff compared to aluminum. The gates drive I have yet to try. It's sadly limited to hub gears only. Which isn't a bad thing. It's just more expensive.
LIKE yur 'review' it reminds me if experts description of bottles/types of wine. w/all the knowledge & SO much experience yu have to use your inter-comparison ability
Hey, I have a question and I would greatly appreciate if you could answer it. My cooper arrived (thanks for the recommendation), but does your cooper make a sound when you pedal on gears 2 and 3? Mine runs silent on gear 1 but starts clicking louder on higher gears. Priority says this is normal and a good sign, but I wonder if this is how it is supposed to be or if the bike is supposed to be silent on all gears and mine is an exception, even if its normal. Thanks a lot.
Note old style shifter and bell on rear hub - but those should work fine, I even like look of this bell more than rounded style. Composite CDN drive components (cogs) would be bigger concern - if not price, which immediately takes away any right to blame parts. In Europe $400 bike comes with Tourney at best so you get a good value with this bike. If you look after you bike, those plastic cogs could serve you well, especially if you ride in a clean city and use front fender to make less of crud hitting front cogs (and even then belt has solid surface instead of chain which sucks in all road grime from wheel).
that's a beautiful bike in my favorite color! love me some green (pacific nw boy here), as green as our fir trees. nice looking otherwise too, but it's kind of hilly up here. we've got thousands of years of earthquakes and volcanoes, so prolly not too practical here.
For what it is, this bike seems to be more than worth that $400.00 price tag. I don't think it would cost so much if it wasn't belt driven because it puts me in mind of a line of State bikes I've seen. Of course, all those State bikes I've seen are all single speed flip flop, so there's probably another reason those are all less than $200.00. I'm almost 50, but, I still like putting air between my tires and what ever surface I'm riding on. Sometimes, spare of the moment like an unattended loading dock or wall, so I favor BMX cruisers, dirt jumpers and trail bikes, but this Cooper still looks classy.
Apart from the price the components are so similar to the Priority classic gotham so which is the better bike? Is it worth paying extra for the Priority?
This type of bike should be waaaay more popular than it is. But go to bike shops here in the US and you will be lucky to find one that looks like this.
I’d love to add a belt drive bike to my little fleet, but where I live has a lot of hills that a 3 or 7 speed probably wouldn’t conquer, and I really don’t feel like spending 2k for the priority 600 (At that point I’d just buy a road bike). Maybe later in life when I move to the city will I be able to buy one!
They eventually need replacing, but it’s some crazy high number like 8,000-10,000 miles. They’re designed to be practically maintenance free during that time. Efficiency...I’ve seen it reported both ways, but it would be close either way. The biggie is the reduced maintenance, resistance to elements, and long life.
@@KevCentral Hello thanks, for the prompt reply. That is a bummer, I guess I’ll have to look at the standard L-Train and Classic Gotham. Great reviews. I was not aware of these types of bikes.
Hey man i have a question plZ answer ..i have a 6 speed bike ,so can i convert it into 7 or 8speed without changing hub and any other adjustments plZ reply ....
If it’s a 6-speed then it’s likely a freewheel. Most 6-speed bikes can take a 7-speed freewheel, but note that the derailleur (most of the time) and shifter will also need to be changed.
Good to see that belt drives are starting to become more affordable.
I can’t wait for all the new technology regarding enclosed gears. No worries about anything...I hope so.
It will not take too long until belt drives get cheaper than chains
It went up by $150 bucks
Honestly I love it, this is the type of bike I recommend when people ask what first bike they should get.
If it isn't Bruce chainstay
Ikr? But they all are comming back after a year still as a happy owners, yet would like to move into solid MTB which is always my recomendation as a do-it-all bike with air fork (with locking) and a 2nd set of wheels with city/asphalt tires and small range casette 9x or 10x 11-36 for roads and 11-42/48 for terrain.
You have one of the best organized and most informative channels on TH-cam.
Thank you.
$400?,$350?! That’s crazy talk. What a time to be alive.
Lol
Love this bike. Your review helped me make my decision. And Priority's service has been nothing but exceptional.
I just ordered my Cooper, thanks so much for the $50 discount!!! I used it to add a fender set to the bike. I have two crazy nice road bikes but sometimes I just want to hop on a bike and roll around the neighborhood. can't wait to get my new bike and test it out.. $350 fora belt drive bike is insane.. Thanks so much Kev!
So, how has it been?? I ride my old CCM with new SA RD3 sp anywhere I feel like. I did 85.5 hilly miles a couple months ago. My SA RD5w is even better. Did 107 miles last week. Easy as pie, even with the 78 lbs. LOL
@@GordoGambler it's a great bike, I love the belt drive, super smooth. Only having 3 gears is not ideal but for rolling around town it's fine. Wish I could afford a Priority 600.
Hey Kev, Just received and rode my new Carmen. This bike is fantastic and exceeds all my expectations. I really like the belt drive. Thanks for inspiring me to take up bike riding again and for recommending such a great bike!
The steel frame is a smooth ride for sure.
Keep in mind that it's 1020 and not chromoly. 1020 steel is Huffy material. Shouldn't really matter though if you are a normal weight rider.
tarstarkusz true..but still relatively light. and soo quiet.. I have similar style bike..an aluminum motobecane cafe 8 with Nexus 8 speed and love it..7500 miles so far.
@@curtn7076 Thats crazy. Like a 9000 km or so. Im around this with my Trek X-Caliber 9 (2015 - orange/black/blue) and I already use 5th complete drivetrain setup. And those are not cheap since it was always a composition of Shimano STX and XT
I THINK I JUST FOUND MY 18TH BIKE!!!🖤🖤🖤🤤👍
👍🏼
N+1
Hahahaha, nope
Lmfao and here I am struggling to get my mom to buy me one
@@habdman my collection took me a lil over 3 yrs...it took a lot of hustling,odd jobs,saving and trading things here and there to get it done as I have 7 kids,8 grandbabies and 2 more on tha way,so I KNOW THA STRUGGLE IS REAL BRUTHA but it has all definitely been worth it tho.
@@johnortiz667 3 years is very little.
I love the green paint with tan seat and grips. That is a really nice looking bike. I have been scouring the internet recently in search of a three speed bike, with little success in my price range. The Cooper is a real contender.
$350?....how on earth do Gates pack this much beauty, refinement, & class into the super Cooper for such a giveaway price?
They must value quality above profit. It deserves to sell in its thousands.
As for the review, Kev takes us on his test ride of the Cooper... His gentle velvet-voiced prose hypnotises us into wanting to order one immediately.!He surely merits his claim to the title of...
"The King of the 3Bs."
Nice work Kev.
I bought a Priority Continuum Onxy because of your review. Definitely worth the price!
Great bike. That was the first Priority bike i purchased. I still have mine.
Looks like a foreverbike. Something that will exist and ride for years and years to come, and beautifully at that.
I really, really, really like that. Have no use for one at all, still want to buy one. Arrrgh
n+1, man... n+1...
The drive train itself is so unique for the price it makes it a super bargain. I love the green and brown set up. :)
After watching your series of videos around Priority and Brilliant, I broke and bought the Cooper. Looking forward to getting it and riding my first belt drive bike! It wont be in until mid-July, so I will be impatiently waiting...
Worth the wait, IMO. Congrats on the new bike.
Thank you Kev. A lovely looking ride.
I just got what I dreamed of a free bike!!!! It’s a 1980s Schwinn cruiser and it’s kinda rusty but I love it
The coupon code seems to be working on the other bikes. I have the L Train in my cart and it worked. The $30 shipping was surprisingly cheap. Great video, Kev.
I have the Brilliant L Train, thanks in part to KevCentral's video review. I like it a lot. Throwing in my two cents here.
1) This Cooper looks like a bargain to me. Yes, back wheel removal is more difficult on an internally-geared hub, but the three-speed removal is WAY easier than a Nexus 7 or 8 back wheel removal. The bell housing is much simpler and easy to deal with.
2) I've heard you mention the L Train's leather grips and seat more than once. They're vinyl leather, not the real deal. I like the Cooper's rubber grips better. Sorry to be so nit-picky. Love the channel.
I like these bikes but where i live is so hilly that your lucky to even find flat areas. Sucks because i love this style
Do you live in San Francisco?
@@StephanieG1 southern Illinois. Land of the rolling hills.
@@xfactoroutdoors165 You're extremely lucky to live in that kind of terrain.
The downhill part is fun 😂
@@xfactoroutdoors165 Oh nice, you ride DH.
I look at the specs. One of the places that costs were cut to make price point is the frame material. The Cooper is 1020 steel. The L Train is 4130.
That’s an important difference.
Why exactly is this important? What are the disadvantages?
3 speed hub gears are very simple and normally very reliable and can be used for 10s of thousands of miles. There are old British bikes from the early 20th century that still have working 3 speed sturmey archer hub drives and the Nexus 3 speed is pretty much a copy of that. However more than 3 speeds and hub gears normally get a lot more complicated and have a shorter lifespan. So I see a 3 speed hub as a positive even though it has a smaller gear range. Personally I would prefer a fully enclosed chain so the chain is protected from rain and would also be a very low maintenance solution but I realise they aren't very stylish.
I've owned three bikes with the Shimano Nexus 3, along with two Alfine 8, and the Nexus 3 is probably the most practical and easiest shifting of all the internal hub gearboxes, especially after you've tried one of those maddingly kick backwards shifters.
I feel that yes, it will be a hit.
Kev I know you’re 5’10” and I’m a similar height…what size frame did you choose for the L-Train and Cooper? I saw their inseam sizing guide but it’s so hard to know how accurate that is. I’m usually a Medium I’m the Trek bikes, so 18-19” frame generally speaking.
Appears to be such a solid bike for the $
Woah. Incredible, I love everything about this.
I wonder what the parasitic losses are with the belt drive? On a motorcycle the difference with a chain and belt is great. Aprox 10% parasitic loss when switching from chain to belt. Any thoughts?
It's 2023. The Brilliant Cooper is $550 on their site, but if you go through Costco, it's $430.
$499 Costco July 2024
$199 at Costco now.
Nice bike for cruising. It reminds me of a British built bike (the name escapes me) that I had when I was in my early teens (sans the belt drive of course).
Yes but it is even more common on the continent. Netherlands, Germany, Denmark, France, Czech Republic, southern Poland you gonna find a LOT of those stylish bikes out there
Must be a Raleigh. Mine cost $24 new, with generator lights, seat bag, fenders and frame pump.
@@stevek8829 had a Raleigh in the early 70s, only 1 speed.
You should do review on priority apollo gravel and 600x!
With all those bikes, I imagine you have quite a bit of bike locks. Would you ever do a bike lock review/comparison?
Thanks for the great content. Will you be coming back to the alum comp Schwinn project? I’m now up to where the videos are with my bike and am looking forward to the next stage. Btw, great recommendation on the fork. Huge difference. I couldn’t wait to see what you do with wheels and tires and had to replace the original tires which wore out and also would get punctures all the time. I got Continental cross kings. Again thanks!
I'd love to see a review on some of Priority's Cruiser bikes! They look like they would be a blast to ride
Damn that’s nice.
Wouldn’t mind one of them, would be nice to get one to the Uk
All it needs is some swept back bars. Then its a city bike.
Internal shift hubs are great! I have a Nexus 3 gear shifter in my bike. No maintenance at all for the past 2 years and still rides super well. I just don't recommend a 3 gear hub if you live in a city with hills. The 7 speed is probably best there.
Hi Man. I live in russia. What affordable bike would recommend with Shimano 7 or 8 hub .Thanks. I am 179in height .
2 x 7 with thumb shifters here ... works really good
@@ingoditrustcaucasianworth8916 Giant Talon 4 2021
This bike became a Christmas present from myself, to myself.
Congrats
Can you tell me what kind of bike is this? I can’t afford anything from brilliant but I like the design for this one and gotham. They look very classic.
Great coupon, fiddy bucks saving ain't no joke.
Nice bike but the price apparently went up 37.5% since it's now listed at $550. So not as sweet a deal as is was previously - perhaps unless you are a student since I believe they offer a $150 student discount if you qualify for it.
Covid pricing
That paint is gorgeous🤤
That's a great looking combination. It reminds me of the State Bike Co., Rigby minus the belt drive.
For the experts in the topic, would this bike being 1020 high tensile steel be a concern for a commuter style of bike? I plan on using twice a week for commuting plus fun leisure rides with friends on weekends. I was comparing this one with the L Train which uses chromoly which I like but I don’t see me needing the extra gears and cost more.
Nice looking bike my man 👌. Great review 👍. Happy riding everybody ✌.
Very impressive commuter bike, I love the components great modern color scheme I could see myself riding this downtown or at my local park...
Very good budget price for a 3 speed belt drive especially for those who don’t want to shell out half a grand or more on one.
That's not matt green, it's British Racing Green. And with that name, methinks someone at Priority is a Mini Cooper fan.
Mine Mini Morris was in German Post yellow with the black trumpet on doors. Loked awesome too si ce I used it in Poland.
Nice, been hoping you'd review the Cooper!
I've been thinking of this as an intro to belt driven bicycles to try out and see if I like them.
Do they make a belt drive bike... that is a single speed.. one that will coast, unlike the fixie? I know a lot of single speed/fixed gears have the flip flop hub. And a belt drive on a fixie would have issues... But a belt drive single speed that will coast... that would be sweet.
I've been lusting after a Priority bike for a couple of years now but was in OTR trucking with no room, now I'm retired in the Philippines and I can't get it here! Infact, it almost impossible to get an internal geared bike and even more so with belt drive. I wish I could be dealer in Makati, they would sell like hotcakes..
Hi kev anychance you could check out a trinx or java bike? Its really cheap kinda like a big box bike but packs a punch
Anyone know if they make a step though frame ?
Any plans to ride around Florence and continue your historical sight seeing? I think I only saw that on one review, but I loved it !! Keep up the good work. 🇺🇸🚴
Yep. That’s coming. I’ve been waiting on a chance for some additional footage for the first video in the series.
What an awesome city bike! Looks nice and light.
It is! Great entry level belt drive bike 👍
Could you do a video on ragley and vitus mountainbikes they look really awsome and well made for their price range especially for the vitus full suspension line
Nice video, I’ve just ordered one.
Man, that’s another great looking bike. Still, that L-Train is a stunning machine, and if I had the cash I’d have one!
This is a perfect set up for just about anyone
Dang it Kev! Your videos keep getting better, it's hard to try and copy you😂
Looks like a nice bike. Too bad priority/brilliant seems to really like skinny tires. Especially for comfort/commuter bikes
Amazing how much these have increased in price since you reviewed this model. I was checking them out today, as I was also looking at the Priority Gotham…the Cooper is now $550…so my question is, at that price is it still worth it?
I’m also concerned about the seating position/angle, as I have the Trek DS and it causes me a numb right hand. The Gotham seems more upright, but I like the styling of the Cooper more. What are your thoughts?
I was also looking at some less expensive options like the Kent Ridgeway, which Target has online for $379 for the Transit model (rack and fenders), or $399 for the Sport. My only concern with those is quality of components, as there seems to be some conflicting info between Kent’s website and Target…Kent says Shimano XT rear derailleur, but Target says Shimano Tourney.
Yes, I was so excited to see the price mentioned in this video, but I went online today, the price is $550.00
Why on earth would you buy a Target or Walmart bike? I already did that and will never buy that garbage again. Spend the extra $ and get something that will last with minimal maintenance. Even my used Citizen Miami foldie is far better quality than any Kent/Huffy/Schwinn/Dynacraft bikes for the same price point [of an off the shelf bike].
@@joellebrodeur1015 the Kent bikes I mentioned are not on the shelf, they’re online only and ship from Kent. They seem to be good quality for the money. I ended up selling my Trek DS and got a Trek Verve, which has the upright riding position I was wanting.
Hey Kev just letting you know the GT Aggressor Pro is on sale again for 299
Hello, looks like a price increase to $550 for the Copper - regardless for a 5-10 mile , dry weather, flat but, rough asphalt commute. Would you recommend the Cooper or Ace of Clubs at $499. I'm torn with 3 speed option or lighter aluminum single speed.
What size were you riding? I’m 5’10” and if I recall you’re the same height. Their website says I could go with a large or medium being that my inseam is right around 32”.
Medium. 5’10” with 30” inseam.
KevCentral Thanks! You rock Kev!
Can you do a maintenance video of oils, Greece, etc that you use or can use on your budget bikes to keep them in good running shape for years. But keep in mind that they are budget bikes like $100, or $200 bikes so we don't want to spend alot on Greece, Wd 40. Etc.
With the rough economy over there, you probably could buy Greece given enough cash
Or on oils, lubricants, Italy or France
Great review. Very thoughtful, keen insights, thanks!
Very nice. If I had space I'd scoop one up right now. 👍
I’m getting this!
Honestly, add fenders and this bike will be brilliant's biggest selling model. It has alot going for it. A steel frame is a bit heavier. But the ride is much less stiff compared to aluminum. The gates drive I have yet to try. It's sadly limited to hub gears only. Which isn't a bad thing. It's just more expensive.
LIKE yur 'review' it reminds me if experts description of bottles/types of wine. w/all the knowledge & SO much experience yu have to use your inter-comparison
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Nice review! It's very tempting at that price point. It's a bargain.
Thanks. I think the price has increased since this review (like everything else has)
Could you please, look into the Detroit Bikes? Thanks
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Where can I find a size of shipping box of this bike? Can you please help me with that?
Nice good price , not enough gears for me , but looks like good value.
Hey, I have a question and I would greatly appreciate if you could answer it. My cooper arrived (thanks for the recommendation), but does your cooper make a sound when you pedal on gears 2 and 3? Mine runs silent on gear 1 but starts clicking louder on higher gears. Priority says this is normal and a good sign, but I wonder if this is how it is supposed to be or if the bike is supposed to be silent on all gears and mine is an exception, even if its normal. Thanks a lot.
Noise is normal on 2nd and 3rd gears. Don’t worry and just ride. This is an amazing bike
Note old style shifter and bell on rear hub - but those should work fine, I even like look of this bell more than rounded style.
Composite CDN drive components (cogs) would be bigger concern - if not price, which immediately takes away any right to blame parts.
In Europe $400 bike comes with Tourney at best so you get a good value with this bike. If you look after you bike, those plastic cogs could serve you well, especially if you ride in a clean city and use front fender to make less of crud hitting front cogs (and even then belt has solid surface instead of chain which sucks in all road grime from wheel).
Yay you uploaded.
Looks like an awesome set up.
that's a beautiful bike in my favorite color! love me some green (pacific nw boy here), as green as our fir trees. nice looking otherwise too, but it's kind of hilly up here. we've got thousands of years of earthquakes and volcanoes, so prolly not too practical here.
For what it is, this bike seems to be more than worth that $400.00 price tag. I don't think it would cost so much if it wasn't belt driven because it puts me in mind of a line of State bikes I've seen. Of course, all those State bikes I've seen are all single speed flip flop, so there's probably another reason those are all less than $200.00. I'm almost 50, but, I still like putting air between my tires and what ever surface I'm riding on. Sometimes, spare of the moment like an unattended loading dock or wall, so I favor BMX cruisers, dirt jumpers and trail bikes, but this Cooper still looks classy.
Reminds me of my Sheffield Free Spirit.
Mustache bars would be great on that bike. You can find new chrome mustache bars for $15-$20 on eBay.
Apart from the price the components are so similar to the Priority classic gotham so which is the better bike? Is it worth paying extra for the Priority?
Classic Gotham is lighter and built with a bit of utility in mind. Cooper is a trendy city bike, IMO. That’s the difference as I see it.
This type of bike should be waaaay more popular than it is. But go to bike shops here in the US and you will be lucky to find one that looks like this.
Could you maybe review a e motor that’s attachable to your bike yet affordable?
That’s not a viable option on a bike with an internally geared hub. I don’t do front hub motors.
KevCentral Ok, thanks though.
I’d love to add a belt drive bike to my little fleet, but where I live has a lot of hills that a 3 or 7 speed probably wouldn’t conquer, and I really don’t feel like spending 2k for the priority 600 (At that point I’d just buy a road bike). Maybe later in life when I move to the city will I be able to buy one!
3 gets old on hills quickly.
KevCentral I think when I move to NYC I’ll nab that 7 speed L train!
shimano 2 x 7 with thumb shifters
Do belts stretch ? Need replacement ? Are belts more or less efficient than standard chain drive?
They eventually need replacing, but it’s some crazy high number like 8,000-10,000 miles. They’re designed to be practically maintenance free during that time. Efficiency...I’ve seen it reported both ways, but it would be close either way. The biggie is the reduced maintenance, resistance to elements, and long life.
Does the stem adjustable in Cooper like in the Gotham?
No. It has a threadless headset
@@KevCentral Hello thanks, for the prompt reply. That is a bummer, I guess I’ll have to look at the standard L-Train and Classic Gotham. Great reviews. I was not aware of these types of bikes.
How much giddy up does it have? Sometimes I like to ride fast when I'm late for work 😅
The 3 speed requires some leg gusto, but it will move pretty well.
Yeah I need this in my life.
Kev, which size is the Cooper in this review? (S, M, L) ?
M
I guess fall, winter and spring are preferable times of the year to ride in your neck of the woods.
Hey man i have a question plZ answer ..i have a 6 speed bike ,so can i convert it into 7 or 8speed without changing hub and any other adjustments plZ reply ....
If it’s a 6-speed then it’s likely a freewheel. Most 6-speed bikes can take a 7-speed freewheel, but note that the derailleur (most of the time) and shifter will also need to be changed.
@@KevCentral i have sis Shimano drealiver ....
cool bike, should be available in Belgian bike shops. Tasteful.
I have the option to get this for $420 or the Gotham for $600. I really love the Gotham but I’ll go with what you recommend.
I can’t tell you what to buy. I can tell you which I prefer. I like the Gotham
Does the belt stretch after a while because I am looking to get my Mam this for Christmas?
I’ve seen people put lots of miles on the gates belts. They’re rated for thousands and thousands of miles.
Where does the frame split though to put the belt on?
There is a removable section on the seat stay
good bike. do you have any new code? :)
How are the brakes??