I have 4 different complete drivetrain of Der, shifter, chain, and cassette. 1) XX1 Eagle 2) XX1 11speed 3) X01 11 speed 4) GX Eagle All are good, and function just fine. None of them are going to make us faster, but if I had to nitpick.... For me, the GX is not as refined, and has mis-shifts here and there. Even after cleaning up the adjustments (b screw and cable tenision), the GX goes out of whacked occasionally. GX also seems to wear faster. XX1 Eagle is butter! very few adjustments needed over the longer haul, and the parts sill looks and functions brand new after about 500 miles. xx1 11-speed and x01 11-speed also quite flawless (both are over 1000 miles now). For me, if I have the money, then I am getting x01 or xx1. However, I have no problems using GX either.
Great video. From my personal experience, rode GX for 3 years and no issues. Upgraded to X01, found a missing tooth on the 52T cog after 8 months. Replaced the cassette, a month later, again, same issue. The aluminum 52t cog does not seem to be able to handle up/down shifts well with the X01 chain. The material is too soft. No issues with other cogs, but they're chromium steel.
@@LoveMTB: I think that is it, combined with a very soft material on the 52T cog. Unfortunately, SRAM does not warranty cassettes: "cassettes are wear items that are not covered under the SRAM warranty against manufacture defects."
@@LoveMTB Not quite sure when it happened with the first cassette. While cleaning it, noticed the broken tooth. Stopped using the 52t cog until I swapped the cassette. With the second cassette, as I was climbing on a steep trail, saw with horror that my chain came off and got lodged between the 52t cog and the spokes. Freed the chain after some struggle. When I can home and was cleaning the bike, saw that one of the teeth had a crack and was bent. Not fun.
I have the same issue with the 11 and 12 cog. I was under the idea the problem was caused by the chain or maybe a damage on the X01 derailleur, but now I know is maybe a design flaw
I dont agree. XO1 has been proven to last much, much more than GX! XX1 even better. Worth the extra $$$. Getting the XX1 chain is of the outmost importance as well. Just so much better and durable.
Another awesome review..... complete with Cassette Cam®. For me, I won't be going to Eagle any time soon simply because of the out-of-sync issue on the two biggest cogs. Once SRAM fixes that - and they will, then I'll pony up my money.
Oh this out of sync issue happens on my bike all the time. I thought it was just me. I upgraded to an xx1 chain and XO1 derailleur. Cassette has little wear so I kept it on. Cassette seems to be okay for now. Glad to know the out of sync issue is not particular to me changing the chain not at the same time as the cassette. You have saved me from wasting money on changing more parts. 👍
i remain attached to Shimano 11sp shifters, and the notion (possibly theoretical, i've not owned a SRAM 12sp drivetrain, though i've demo'd) of easier adjustment and maintenance of 11 sp vs 12sp, not to mention cost. when my Shimano 11-46 cassette wears out, which takes a good long time, i'm most interested in the Garbaruk 11-48. if anyone has experience, do chime in. good video as usual BTW.
Are you replacing the whole drivetrain? I know Garbaruk is compatible with SRAM driver, not sure about Shimano though. I looked into it just browsing, and the common them was that is on par with SRAM's 1275 GX cassette, but not as crisp as the X01 and XX1 and it's louder. I think I read that on Pinkbike or MTBR and the comments mostly supported it. The Garbaruk is lighter, but it's main attraction is the aesthetics. Not my cup of tea but looks cool on Instagram.
Would argue the gx cassette is more resistant to wear because the cogs are made from stamped chromo rather than being machined so will have a better grain structure and be stronger than xo1 ? (un qualified opinion)
I would like to see a weight break down of these big cassettes. Some of these reach up to 650 grams. Yet claim to be xc oriented. Thatz an awful lot of weight. But then you look at carbon vs alu frames and the diff is about a pound.
52 tooth gear is the same on all cassettes, GX thru XX1(other than graphics). If you ride and climb allot on the 52 tooth, they wear , sharpen, bend fairly quickly in about a year. Your getting GX quality 52 Tooth gear, no matter what level you pay for..
@@LoveMTB I can't seem to find any other reports of this. Do you really think the 52 tooth gear wears quicker or is more prone to bend versus the 50? I put more than 3K miles on my X01 10-50 but I don't spend a lot of time on the 50. I'm thinking of switching to the 10-52 since I have AXS and an opportunity to swap.
@@LoveMTB "all things equal" I would prefer the slightly wider range on my Enduro because I definitely use all of the range in the variety of stuff I ride, and anything that keeps me riding versus walking up climbs is welcome. I'm just trying to figure out if longevity or reliability is a factor since I love that the X01's (and the good hollow-pin chains) last forever and I don't want to give that up. Great helpful video btw, much appreciated!
same happens on smaller sprockets on XG-1150/XG-1175... thinking whether spending money for XG-1195 is worth it or not... I have also BOOST bike and those small sprockets are showing deterioration :(
1:58 @lovemtb was wondering if you succeeded to resolve that noise? since i have the same problem sometimes downshifts not as smooth on new XX1 cassete/chain RD is X01
Hi. I just bought the XO1 cassette. Just one question. With the cassette off the wheel, and using the cassette tool. The center locking mechanism should be able to turn right? Coz I can't seem to turn mine. And the cassette is new.
I have the NX on my Cube stereo Ebike. I was told that the NX being steel that it is better for ebikes. Do you think this is true and that the higher end cassettes would not be strong enough for ebikes?
I have a TREK MARLIN 6. I am about to upgrade my drivetrains group from a 3x8 to a 1x12. I have a shimano free hub so I am limited in my options. I wanted to know your thoughts on using a SUNRACE MZ90 cassette opposed to the NX cassette with the GX components.
If I have full NX 1x12 groupset currently on my mtb with the old style shimano casette hub and Not XD. is it worth upgrading my rear wheel to a XD hub just to be able to run the lighter x01 cassettes? grams vs $$$$ lost? tks!
So the x01 derailleur will work with no problems using the gx cassette right? And its mostly a weight difference not even a difference in shifting? If thats so i will go for money instead of weight anytime
@@LoveMTB Thanks for the answer mate! Im waiting for my just ordered new Enduro bike which got a full X01 Eagle setup, its my first bike, had to save a long time for it. Since I was a little shocked that replacing a cassette would be so expensive now (having a real MTB) I had to know if Im able to use a bit cheaper components haha.
Iv been to 2 different bike shops trying to get the GX on my roscoe 8. The problem is I have a QR in the back. Is it possible to get hubs that work with eagle and QR
adding more info, its not the axle but the driver body itself, XD driver is specific form sram 11/12 speed gx level above, you can have conversion endcap for qr with xd diver freehub lets say from hope brand
@@LoveMTB maybe that’s why my chain doesn’t fall off when I backpedal on the last 2 sprockets. But then again I am using XX1 chain. On my previous setup with KMC chain and NX cassette, the chain dropped when I backpedal on the last 2 sprockets. It’s probably a combo of the NX cassette not having NW tooth and that the KMC chain is not fully compatible with Eagle.
@@LoveMTB I know right. I started having trouble with 12 to 14 and 10 to 14 double shift and it turned out that my hanger was 0.7mm bent. Quick unbending fixed this problem. On Saturday I was climbing uphill a lot and I noticed the misaligned 50T problem. I guess I'll get my B gap adjusted with SAG and see if this fixes problem.
@@LoveMTB 12speed clusters when you change the chain at .5 new chain will not jump on cluster ? How many new chains on one cluster before its worn out those 12speed are expensive cheers from australia
hi. i just installed the eagle gx 12 speed on my xd hub body. but when I tighten everything back down the entire hub and cassette come off the axle. does the hub body need to be tightened before installing the cassette? I am missing something but can't figure it out.
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I have 4 different complete drivetrain of Der, shifter, chain, and cassette.
1) XX1 Eagle
2) XX1 11speed
3) X01 11 speed
4) GX Eagle
All are good, and function just fine. None of them are going to make us faster, but if I had to nitpick....
For me, the GX is not as refined, and has mis-shifts here and there. Even after cleaning up the adjustments (b screw and cable tenision), the GX goes out of whacked occasionally. GX also seems to wear faster.
XX1 Eagle is butter! very few adjustments needed over the longer haul, and the parts sill looks and functions brand new after about 500 miles. xx1 11-speed and x01 11-speed also quite flawless (both are over 1000 miles now). For me, if I have the money, then I am getting x01 or xx1. However, I have no problems using GX either.
Great video.
From my personal experience, rode GX for 3 years and no issues. Upgraded to X01, found a missing tooth on the 52T cog after 8 months. Replaced the cassette, a month later, again, same issue. The aluminum 52t cog does not seem to be able to handle up/down shifts well with the X01 chain. The material is too soft. No issues with other cogs, but they're chromium steel.
Big jump to that 52t from 42, why I still use the 10-50 on all our SRAM bikes, no issues whatsoever with GX or X01 cassettes
@@LoveMTB: I think that is it, combined with a very soft material on the 52T cog. Unfortunately, SRAM does not warranty cassettes: "cassettes are wear items that are not covered under the SRAM warranty against manufacture defects."
@@valmiles Hmmm interesting. How do you "feel" that missing tooth?
@@LoveMTB Not quite sure when it happened with the first cassette. While cleaning it, noticed the broken tooth. Stopped using the 52t cog until I swapped the cassette. With the second cassette, as I was climbing on a steep trail, saw with horror that my chain came off and got lodged between the 52t cog and the spokes. Freed the chain after some struggle. When I can home and was cleaning the bike, saw that one of the teeth had a crack and was bent. Not fun.
@@valmiles That's a bummer, glad I held on to my 10-50s!
Great comparison lots of focused footage of the actual parts. Thanms
Awesome!
Really looking forward to that xtr 12 speed with sram cassette test!
Are you using a Boost spacing chainring? They space the chainline differently as they're offset by 3mm compared to a non-boost chainring.
Xo is stronger, lighter and will last much longer than GX . I've gone through 3 chains and the X0 cassette looks good.
agreed. X0 cassette are really good. and expensive)
I'm curious about the e13 12 speed cassette. Looks closer in price to the GX cassette but lighter.
Had the same problem with the chain not sitting well, turned out to be a stretched chain. Check to see if your chain is within spec.
Great review, I'm going to use all this information, as always. Thank you very much. Cheers from Portugal.
Whats the surprise for early viewers? Haha. God Bless man. Thanks for the review!
These are the sort of videos we need! Great stuff 👍🏻
Awesome review!
Keep up the great work. 👍
I have the same issue with the 11 and 12 cog. I was under the idea the problem was caused by the chain or maybe a damage on the X01 derailleur, but now I know is maybe a design flaw
Thank you for all of your videos. I have learned a lot from you. Keep up the good job :-)
Nice review..xo1 made it for that.
I dont agree. XO1 has been proven to last much, much more than GX! XX1 even better. Worth the extra $$$. Getting the XX1 chain is of the outmost importance as well. Just so much better and durable.
LuisManuelHdez You sound like an idiot.
You are correct. Most durable cassette I have used.
Does it last twice as much as the gx cassette?
XX1 is overpriced I think as most of this but it does las much longer. Yes could las twice as long or longer if properly maintained. Smoother too.
@@MaxMustermannnnnn The XO1 cassette lasts >x2 as long as the GX.
Another awesome review..... complete with Cassette Cam®. For me, I won't be going to Eagle any time soon simply because of the out-of-sync issue on the two biggest cogs. Once SRAM fixes that - and they will, then I'll pony up my money.
Same here, heck I've been known to stop a ride and head home if a creak pops up...... It ain't easy being me!
Oh this out of sync issue happens on my bike all the time. I thought it was just me.
I upgraded to an xx1 chain and XO1 derailleur. Cassette has little wear so I kept it on. Cassette seems to be okay for now. Glad to know the out of sync issue is not particular to me changing the chain not at the same time as the cassette. You have saved me from wasting money on changing more parts. 👍
i remain attached to Shimano 11sp shifters, and the notion (possibly theoretical, i've not owned a SRAM 12sp drivetrain, though i've demo'd) of easier adjustment and maintenance of 11 sp vs 12sp, not to mention cost. when my Shimano 11-46 cassette wears out, which takes a good long time, i'm most interested in the Garbaruk 11-48. if anyone has experience, do chime in.
good video as usual BTW.
Are you replacing the whole drivetrain? I know Garbaruk is compatible with SRAM driver, not sure about Shimano though. I looked into it just browsing, and the common them was that is on par with SRAM's 1275 GX cassette, but not as crisp as the X01 and XX1 and it's louder. I think I read that on Pinkbike or MTBR and the comments mostly supported it. The Garbaruk is lighter, but it's main attraction is the aesthetics. Not my cup of tea but looks cool on Instagram.
Would argue the gx cassette is more resistant to wear because the cogs are made from stamped chromo rather than being machined so will have a better grain structure and be stronger than xo1 ? (un qualified opinion)
I would like to see a weight break down of these big cassettes. Some of these reach up to 650 grams. Yet claim to be xc oriented. Thatz an awful lot of weight. But then you look at carbon vs alu frames and the diff is about a pound.
What about the durability of both?
52 tooth gear is the same on all cassettes, GX thru XX1(other than graphics). If you ride and climb allot on the 52 tooth, they wear , sharpen, bend fairly quickly in about a year. Your getting GX quality 52 Tooth gear, no matter what level you pay for..
@@LoveMTB I can't seem to find any other reports of this. Do you really think the 52 tooth gear wears quicker or is more prone to bend versus the 50? I put more than 3K miles on my X01 10-50 but I don't spend a lot of time on the 50. I'm thinking of switching to the 10-52 since I have AXS and an opportunity to swap.
@@LoveMTB "all things equal" I would prefer the slightly wider range on my Enduro because I definitely use all of the range in the variety of stuff I ride, and anything that keeps me riding versus walking up climbs is welcome. I'm just trying to figure out if longevity or reliability is a factor since I love that the X01's (and the good hollow-pin chains) last forever and I don't want to give that up. Great helpful video btw, much appreciated!
@@LoveMTB my real question is " does the 52 tooth gear wears quicker or is it more prone to bend versus the 50?"
NX cassette fits shimano free hub 8-10 speed BODY ??? Love MTB
same happens on smaller sprockets on XG-1150/XG-1175... thinking whether spending money for XG-1195 is worth it or not... I have also BOOST bike and those small sprockets are showing deterioration :(
1:58 @lovemtb was wondering if you succeeded to resolve that noise? since i have the same problem sometimes downshifts not as smooth on new XX1 cassete/chain RD is X01
LoveMTB guess wax lube doesn't help me also :D
Hi. I just bought the XO1 cassette. Just one question. With the cassette off the wheel, and using the cassette tool. The center locking mechanism should be able to turn right? Coz I can't seem to turn mine. And the cassette is new.
@@LoveMTB Thanks for the advice.
The lifespan of my XG 1275 is always about 3300Km.
Am i better off with the XO1295?
Is that X01 cassette the black or polar grey colorway?
I have the NX on my Cube stereo Ebike. I was told that the NX being steel that it is better for ebikes. Do you think this is true and that the higher end cassettes would not be strong enough for ebikes?
Muy buen video , y buenas conclusiones. Enhorabuena
happy New Year
the channel is very good !!!!!!
If I have a GX derraileur from the new group and I have a X01 10-52 cassette, what kind of chain should I use with it, GX or X01?
I have a TREK MARLIN 6. I am about to upgrade my drivetrains group from a 3x8 to a 1x12. I have a shimano free hub so I am limited in my options.
I wanted to know your thoughts on using a SUNRACE MZ90 cassette opposed to the NX cassette with the GX components.
LoveMTB I am still looking into Shimano XTR and XT vs SRAM GX.
My biggest issue is what Cassette to use Shimano XT, SRAM NX or SUNRACE.
Your accent is very cool, where are you from? I’m getting freaked out because my aunt has an accent that sounds so similar to yours.
If I have full NX 1x12 groupset currently on my mtb with the old style shimano casette hub and Not XD. is it worth upgrading my rear wheel to a XD hub just to be able to run the lighter x01 cassettes? grams vs $$$$ lost?
tks!
Yes but weight saving on 650b mtb you will never improve on the superseded 26inch mtb weight
What caused it to be out of sync in the GX?
So the x01 derailleur will work with no problems using the gx cassette right? And its mostly a weight difference not even a difference in shifting? If thats so i will go for money instead of weight anytime
@@LoveMTB Thanks for the answer mate! Im waiting for my just ordered new Enduro bike which got a full X01 Eagle setup, its my first bike, had to save a long time for it. Since I was a little shocked that replacing a cassette would be so expensive now (having a real MTB) I had to know if Im able to use a bit cheaper components haha.
@@LoveMTB Sounds interesting, I will for sure watch it, already subbed you! Thanks!!
something isn't right. chains shouldn't do that. is the chain worn out?
Iv been to 2 different bike shops trying to get the GX on my roscoe 8. The problem is I have a QR in the back. Is it possible to get hubs that work with eagle and QR
i think Hope still makes qr hubs in xd
adding more info, its not the axle but the driver body itself, XD driver is specific form sram 11/12 speed gx level above, you can have conversion endcap for qr with xd diver freehub lets say from hope brand
Really struggling with myself paying a few hundred bucks for wear parts! WEAR PARTS!
Which sprockets on the GX cassette have NW tooth profile? Thanks
@@LoveMTB maybe that’s why my chain doesn’t fall off when I backpedal on the last 2 sprockets. But then again I am using XX1 chain.
On my previous setup with KMC chain and NX cassette, the chain dropped when I backpedal on the last 2 sprockets.
It’s probably a combo of the NX cassette not having NW tooth and that the KMC chain is not fully compatible with Eagle.
Is there any chance to get rid of out of sync 50t problems?
@@LoveMTB I know right. I started having trouble with 12 to 14 and 10 to 14 double shift and it turned out that my hanger was 0.7mm bent. Quick unbending fixed this problem.
On Saturday I was climbing uphill a lot and I noticed the misaligned 50T problem. I guess I'll get my B gap adjusted with SAG and see if this fixes problem.
Do you run 1chain 1 cassette or rotate 2chains for 1 cassette
@@LoveMTB 12speed clusters when you change the chain at .5 new chain will not jump on cluster ? How many new chains on one cluster before its worn out those 12speed are expensive cheers from australia
What about the noise that you get on your gx?
@@LoveMTB noise that you described @1:48 compared to x01
hi. i just installed the eagle gx 12 speed on my xd hub body. but when I tighten everything back down the entire hub and cassette come off the axle. does the hub body need to be tightened before installing the cassette? I am missing something but can't figure it out.
@@LoveMTB not sure what hub. but its normal after installing the cassette and torqeu to 40 nm to have the cassette slide left and right on the XD hub?
I have the SRAM XD hub and i purchased a new gx 12 speed cassette.
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Eagle GX...always buy a warranty on Amazon for it. The largest Cog breaks teeth.
I hope you notice me. Can you give me cassette hubd and sprocket.. Im from philippines. Hoping that you notice me im your big fan
Your riding the top of the teeth due to chain stretch.
Terrible vid all u had to do was say 75 vd 95 very confusing
75 vs 95 is in the title? No?😉