Despite what some folks have claimed to have heard on The Colour and the Shape, there actually weren’t any drum samples on the album at all! What are some other rumours that you've heard about famous albums!?
I used to pink noise for EQ ,,, I also just turn up everything n sweep a frequency n when it squeals like a Pig turn it back two numbers below that... it sets the house for random EQ from walls n People... it Also sets Mic's with monitors so They don't Feed back...
Well, there are people claiming that some of the Beatles' music and also album cover artwork contains hidden messages about Paul McCartney actually having died and that he subsequently was replaced by a look-alike, in the mid 60's :-))
I love Foo Fighters! My biggest pet peeve is the amount of people who stated how good Wasting Light sounds ONLY because it was tracked all analog. I really respect that and I think it leads to amazing performances, certain creative limitations etc. But at the end of the day it was all mastered and listened to digitally. No Different than basically every AC/DC album (and many many more) who TRACK through tape (A800 at warehouse studio) before going to A/D...and then generally mixed again hybrid.
i always considered this a perfect sounding record. its so interesting to me that Dave understood how important it was to stay away from compression, instead, pushing these tech wizards for other solutions like slamming the tape and molting the parallel channels. made it all even more dynamic and interesting. So inspiring. What a visionary he is.
Hey, Warren! First of all, thank you for years of great content. Second of all, I think it’s absolutely amazing that you are now taking this new approach, which is analyzing famous mixes and interviewing the people involved. Nice evolution! Or should I say... marvelous?
I bet it's because, as a drummer, Dave really would have loved to hear the full drum sound as much as possible, and that's the same way I feel about guitar. Cut out everything from the bass and drums to make room so I can hear the full sound of the guitar. I'm not an engineer, so I don't really know how that works, but as a musician, his attitude about the drums makes a lot of sense to me. I'll be the same stubborn guy in the studio ;)
@@TheChadPad If recorded properly dominate guitar frequencies (in a rock context) shouldn't compete too much with drums and bass. EQ can correct if necessary, but, compression is a bit different when applied to certain instruments. So, that's why it surprised me a bit. The record sounds amazing, so in the end it doesn't matter.
Partly because guys like this take a .. perhaps questionable demand and apply the letter of the law, if not the spirit. Hitting the tape hard... that's not technically "using a compressor", is it? EQs to emphasize or subdue transients - that's not compression either. If I hire an intern to play the tape back at 1/5 speed and ride the fader to create a new volume envelope, that's not a compressor. As they said in the end of the video - it's all about learning how to say "sure, NP!" and then do whatever you need to do to make it work.
Warren, these 'Inside the Mix' vids are rockin'! All have great insight into what made the sounds. Thank you and your crew for taking the time. You rock, seriously rock!
I know these songs from the radio but I've never listened to the whole album. SO I looked it up and discovered it's provided with Prime. So now I'll finally give it a listen!
Thanks Warren, Chris is such an amazing mixer. I've been waiting for this since the start of PLAP. His work on bands such as Feeder, Biffy Clyro, Oceansize, Amplifier is. Would love to hear more about his mixing process.
This has made my day, week, month. I love this album, and to get all this background just makes me love it more. I always felt it was special for every step of its creation. Thank you for unearthing all these wonderful goodies as to why this album stands the test of time.
You are making my lockdown such a pleasure. I learn so much about my favourite albums and tracks off you! Any more 90s rock and grunge stuff would be awesome and really help my mixes.
Thank you so much for this interview :) So great to know better how this album was made! I remember being a teenager and finding it so powerful listening to it plugged in my tape cassette! Great, great content once again :)
These videos are so good and absolutely full of gems, it's been worth waiting all these years to hear the stories and have some of the magic explained finally. Thank you so much!
This is awesome! Thank you Warren! I use to work at Bear Creek, where The Colour and the Shape was first recorded, and its great to hear more stories about the recording process!
Another fantastic video Warren, thank you so much for everything that you contribute to the audio community. We're all the better for it! It'd be amazing if you could do a mix breakdown video with CLA at some point. That would be super fun :) Cheers, Mark.
Another great interview Warren! You should get Chris back to talk about the making of Therapy?'s Troublegum album - that had it's 25th Anniversary recently...
According to multiple articles I've read about the creation of the Use Your Illusion albums by Guns 'N Roses in '91, they had to mix the album in Skip Sailor because November Rain was a 86 channel multi tape recording and Skip Sailor had the biggest console in LA during that time. Strapping a total of 4 tape machines together and spending weeks trying to sync them. Insane...
Loving getting insights from the people behind the records, especially with the Produce Like a Pro flava. With communication technologies where they are today it opens up so many possibilities for who you can interview! ;)
Absolutely amazing. I am floored by the sheer awesomeness that are your interviews/talks with such amazing professionals. As usual, thank you so much! Made my day.
Thank you for these great behind the Foo scenes videos. I would love one of these for Concrete and Gold. That is an incredibly crafted album with lots going on.
This is amazing thank you so much for sharing this! I love the Foo Fighters and seeing this is the best. Would it be possible to see more of the Foo Fighters recording process from the more recent albums?
I'm interested in how many tracks of elec guitars - left/right for Dave, Pat, and Chris plus lead parts? Were the EQ moves radical during mixing to help them mesh, or were the tracks complementary from Gil/Bradley and Chris S was just making subtle moves? Thank you for letting us nerd out on our favorite albums, Warren and PLAP team!
Warren, this is a top video! You should do a video about Feeder. Extremley underrated UK band. Worked with Chris and Gil on a few albums. Comfort in Sound, Echo Park etc. That would be cool! Get Grant on too!
About time that someone (relevant) complimented Nate's playing. I hate it when people treat him like the band's running joke. Same as Metallica's Lars.
Thanks Warren & Chris. Great interview! Warren, pleeeeeeease take me to London with you someday! I’ve never been out of the U.S., and your start to this video made me feel like Ally Pally would be a great place to check out. (Bucket List.) 🙋🏻 Anyway, no compression on drums is amazing. Never would’ve thought to use a synth to help with the drum sounds. This was the first time I’d ever heard “saved my bacon.” I love it.
We started the conversation with “I didn’t use compression” to a 4:1 on the bus compression. The whole thing is on tape so there is compression. Then he slammed the The 2 track tape. So there was plenty of compression happening. You couldn’t get away with that in 2019 with Pro Tools. Also, 1997 there was automation especially on a 80 channel SSL.
The vocal chorus’ of My Poor Brain sound panned sort of three & nine o’ clock and are double tracked. Presumably he didn’t quadruple track vocals so how was this achieved? Cheers, videos are absolute quality.
Wicked; between Bradley, Chris and yourself, I feel I was there at these sessions. One question; 'Molt, moult?', did I hear the word correctly? Correct me if I'm wrong, I took it's meaning to be; take an aux off a track, maybe out of one console into another, tweak the schnizzle out of it and push it back in along side the original; akin to parallel compression but in this case with EQ, gating etc. instead of comp; is that the idea?
@Bring MeSunshine He is saying "Mult" - A physical place on a patch bay with multiple patch points. He could patch from the Neve into a "mult" and come out to two or more separate channel strips on the board with very different EQs to bring into the mix more or less. Cheers!
Yes! Mult = Multiple! Meaning you can take one output and multiply it through the patch bay so it goes through multiple pieces of equipment and then often summed back to one input!
Thanks Warren and Chris. I have a question for Chris regarding Drum panning. How far apart did you pan the overheads in general? All the way left and right or somewhere in between? Thanks
I would really like to hear some thoughts on this as well. There's so much bleed between two overheads it feels like you can get away with harder panning than with other instances of panning two tracks left and right.
Hey Warren! Love these videos! (Well, all of your videos, really) Do you think you could get Kevin Shirley to talk about his work with Iron Maiden? (Brave New World in particular) Cheers, Warren! Keep up the good work!
![Recording Drums With Steve Albini [Third Circle Recordings]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/kmP9z-xTRz0/mqdefault.jpg)
Despite what some folks have claimed to have heard on The Colour and the Shape, there actually weren’t any drum samples on the album at all! What are some other rumours that you've heard about famous albums!?
I used to pink noise for EQ ,,, I also just turn up everything n sweep a frequency n when it squeals like a Pig turn it back two numbers below that...
it sets the house for random EQ from walls n People... it Also sets Mic's with monitors so They don't Feed back...
Well, there are people claiming that some of the Beatles' music and also album cover artwork contains hidden messages about Paul McCartney actually having died and that he subsequently was replaced by a look-alike, in the mid 60's :-))
I heard ACDC's first album was recorded about 15 times!
@@mightyV444 that's a classic reply ...
I love Foo Fighters! My biggest pet peeve is the amount of people who stated how good Wasting Light sounds ONLY because it was tracked all analog. I really respect that and I think it leads to amazing performances, certain creative limitations etc. But at the end of the day it was all mastered and listened to digitally. No Different than basically every AC/DC album (and many many more) who TRACK through tape (A800 at warehouse studio) before going to A/D...and then generally mixed again hybrid.
Warren we dont deserve these gifts you continually give us.
You are too kind my friend! You Rock!!
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUE
Hi@@Paul-HenryYou Rock!!
@@Producelikeapro Yeah because I'm inspired by the best 😏 ⬆️
Fluff...your worthy 🤘🏽
i always considered this a perfect sounding record. its so interesting to me that Dave understood how important it was to stay away from compression, instead, pushing these tech wizards for other solutions like slamming the tape and molting the parallel channels. made it all even more dynamic and interesting. So inspiring. What a visionary he is.
Agreed! Complete masterpiece!
As usual, top content, Warren.
This channel is a pure gem among others.
Appreciate all your effort.
Thanks ever so much my friend!!
Hey, Warren! First of all, thank you for years of great content. Second of all, I think it’s absolutely amazing that you are now taking this new approach, which is analyzing famous mixes and interviewing the people involved. Nice evolution! Or should I say... marvelous?
You're very welcome my friend!! You Rock! Glad to be able to help!!
Warren, you saint! These Foo Fighters videos are what have been lacking from my life!
Great episode!!! This album defined a specific time in my life and I still love it!
1upfx that’s great to hear!
I doubt this would happen, but I would absolutely love to see one of these with David Bottrill dissecting one of his Tool mixes!!!
Also some Joe Barresi stuff ! Tool, Melvins, Chevelle ! Anything about Melvins' Stag record would make super happy ! :)
No compression on the drums? Wow, very interesting. Kinda mind blowing actually. Thanks again Warren -- fantastic stuff.
I know amazing!!
I bet it's because, as a drummer, Dave really would have loved to hear the full drum sound as much as possible, and that's the same way I feel about guitar. Cut out everything from the bass and drums to make room so I can hear the full sound of the guitar. I'm not an engineer, so I don't really know how that works, but as a musician, his attitude about the drums makes a lot of sense to me. I'll be the same stubborn guy in the studio ;)
@@TheChadPad If recorded properly dominate guitar frequencies (in a rock context) shouldn't compete too much with drums and bass. EQ can correct if necessary, but, compression is a bit different when applied to certain instruments. So, that's why it surprised me a bit. The record sounds amazing, so in the end it doesn't matter.
Partly because guys like this take a .. perhaps questionable demand and apply the letter of the law, if not the spirit. Hitting the tape hard... that's not technically "using a compressor", is it? EQs to emphasize or subdue transients - that's not compression either. If I hire an intern to play the tape back at 1/5 speed and ride the fader to create a new volume envelope, that's not a compressor.
As they said in the end of the video - it's all about learning how to say "sure, NP!" and then do whatever you need to do to make it work.
@@billyhughes9776 Aaah ok I see. Thanks for clearing that up
Vertigo of Bliss and Effloresce are probably No. 1 & 2 of my top five albums of all time. Needless to say this man is rock & roll royalty in my eyes!
Warren, these 'Inside the Mix' vids are rockin'! All have great insight into what made the sounds. Thank you and your crew for taking the time. You rock, seriously rock!
You're very welcome Dave!! Very glad to be able to help my friend!!
Thanks for these interviews. This is like "Grey's anatomy" t.v. show for music production nerds...
Thanks ever so much
As a huge fan of Grey’s Anatomy and a music production hobbyist, I fucking agree.
This was a fabulous interview. Such passion and experience!
Thanks ever so much my friend!
I know these songs from the radio but I've never listened to the whole album. SO I looked it up and discovered it's provided with Prime. So now I'll finally give it a listen!
Thats great to hear Loren!!
What a great interview. What a great album. Warren, this channel goes from strength to strength. Good work, man.
Thanks ever so much Sam!! Yes, great album!!
What a humble and unassuming guy. The kind that you immediately warm too,. Rare breed nowadays.
Marvellous interview Warren thank you! I always feel like we're privy to a conversation you're having with a good friend about music!
Love the show Warren. I learn more from watching stuff like this than almost anything else.
Damn this is great! I love when the guests are so open about that they did on the tracks
Thanks Keiran! Yes, me too!
Very good advice for life, in general. "Someone else did the work on this recording", treat it as their work.
Hi Abe, yes, I agree 100%! Great philosophy!
Thanks Warren, Chris is such an amazing mixer. I've been waiting for this since the start of PLAP. His work on bands such as Feeder, Biffy Clyro, Oceansize, Amplifier is. Would love to hear more about his mixing process.
What an awesome, humble guy. Thanks for the great interview
Yes, amazing guy!!
45 Minutes of Education and inspiration. Thanks Warren, love it.
Thanks ever so much Gary!!
Great Video! Would love to hear Chris Sheldon on the Oceansize albums ) !
Marvellous idea!!
yes please!
Yes yes yes!!! Thank you so much for this Warren!! So many insights and inspiration! More Foo Fighters please😊🤘🎸🎼
This has made my day, week, month. I love this album, and to get all this background just makes me love it more. I always felt it was special for every step of its creation. Thank you for unearthing all these wonderful goodies as to why this album stands the test of time.
great guy, great band, great interview
Thanks ever so much Henning!!
WOW WEE this is so so great . Thanks Warren! What a lovely sincere bloke
Yes! Chris is a wonderful bloke indeed!
Man, you truly are the gift that keeps on giving. These videos are so great. Thank you :)
Thanks ever so much my friend!
You are making my lockdown such a pleasure. I learn so much about my favourite albums and tracks off you! Any more 90s rock and grunge stuff would be awesome and really help my mixes.
Fantastic interview, so cool to hear how Chris got around the "no compression" restriction!
Thank you so much for this interview :) So great to know better how this album was made! I remember being a teenager and finding it so powerful listening to it plugged in my tape cassette! Great, great content once again :)
Another Great Episode, Thanks A Lot Warren for these great series!!!
Hi Rob B Thanks ever so much!
So interesting warren... pure gold. This is a seminal album from my teenage years.
Thanks ever so much Rafael!
These videos are so good and absolutely full of gems, it's been worth waiting all these years to hear the stories and have some of the magic explained finally. Thank you so much!
This album is so solid on every front. Thanks for your end of this mega important bomb ass record
Thanks ever so much
Yes! Great album to put under the magnifying glass.
Indeed!! Is there another album you'd put under the magnifying glass?
Yes! Sonic Masterpiece!!
@@Producelikeapro Deloused in the Comatorium by The MArs Volta!
I'm going to have to watch this one a few times. Thanks guys.
Thanks ever so much my friend!!
Looking forward to that youth episode !
Yes! Now that would be amazing!!
Spectacular as always... Thanks Warren and Chris
Oh man another Foo's video! Your really spoiling us. All of the ones you've done are great great songs. Thanks for what you do!
What an amazing interview! Thank you Warren and thank you Chris!
Thanks Warren and Chris. This was absolutely fantastic, and very informative....
Thanks ever so much Tony!!
Gracias Warren!! . Excelente video, como siempre!!. The kick EQ trick was awesome! Can wait to try it out! Greetings from Paraguay
Hi Sergio, greetings in Paraguay!!
This is awesome! Thank you Warren! I use to work at Bear Creek, where The Colour and the Shape was first recorded, and its great to hear more stories about the recording process!
Hi Ben Worrell Thanks ever so much for sharing!
Another fantastic video Warren, thank you so much for everything that you contribute to the audio community. We're all the better for it! It'd be amazing if you could do a mix breakdown video with CLA at some point. That would be super fun :) Cheers, Mark.
Yes! That would be quite amazing!!
I've watched about ten of these and they're great but I just realised you're the Nick Clegg of Hollywood rock n roll and I love it
Amazing interview. Thank you so much for doing these.
Thank you Chris and Warren! 😃
brilliant chap that chris, some wonderful stories he has told here, thanks for sharing warren!
Another great interview Warren! You should get Chris back to talk about the making of Therapy?'s Troublegum album - that had it's 25th Anniversary recently...
According to multiple articles I've read about the creation of the Use Your Illusion albums by Guns 'N Roses in '91, they had to mix the album in Skip Sailor because November Rain was a 86 channel multi tape recording and Skip Sailor had the biggest console in LA during that time. Strapping a total of 4 tape machines together and spending weeks trying to sync them. Insane...
Crazy! Yes, mixing with multiple machines in analog was very tough indeed!
Most excellent!! Thank you Warren and Chris for sharing.
Yeah!!! New video! Thank you!
You're welcome Denis!!
Fantastic interview Warren! Very insightful. Love that album. Chris seems like a cool guy!
Just a note to say Thanks for more great content cheers guys, great hearing how Chris went about getting things done.
Loving getting insights from the people behind the records, especially with the Produce Like a Pro flava. With communication technologies where they are today it opens up so many possibilities for who you can interview! ;)
Thanks for doing these vids, they are always really interesting and I learn heaps!
You;'re very welcome my friend!!
Born and bred in Watford here! Now in Canberra, Australia.
Marvellous
A phenomenal video with a truly humble professional. Would love to see more on Chris' work in future.
CATS. You can listen from start to end without skipping. I reckon those songs were brewing for a while. (Deja vu). . Brilliant guest
Yes, amazing guest Oliver!
29:09 Oh man. What a precious moment. Imagine being there!
Absolutely amazing. I am floored by the sheer awesomeness that are your interviews/talks with such amazing professionals. As usual, thank you so much! Made my day.
Thank you for these great behind the Foo scenes videos. I would love one of these for Concrete and Gold. That is an incredibly crafted album with lots going on.
Chris is a legend. Troublegum is one of the best albums of all time.
Congratulations from Brazil . Great video
Awesome record! Thanks!
Thanks ever so much Jürgen!!
Great interview, thanks Warren!
Warren, thank you so much for doing these amazing insights into some great records.Your channel is part of my morning regime. Top Banana !!
Thank you so much for your work! Awesome video!
Amazing good interview. I’m inspired to try automating an Eq for an improved mix.
That’s great to hear!
Warren you are way too cool!!!
You’re way too kind!
Love these videos. Would love to see you talk to Rob Cavallo talking about recording Basket Case or Even just talk about How they recorded Dookie.
excellent! great companion video.
Thanks ever so much Brandon! You Rock!
Great video. Thank you, Warren. Would love to have one with Chris about early days of Biffy Clyro.
Awesome stuff. Thanks
I enjoyed the hell out of this. Thank you!
This is amazing thank you so much for sharing this! I love the Foo Fighters and seeing this is the best. Would it be possible to see more of the Foo Fighters recording process from the more recent albums?
I'm interested in how many tracks of elec guitars - left/right for Dave, Pat, and Chris plus lead parts? Were the EQ moves radical during mixing to help them mesh, or were the tracks complementary from Gil/Bradley and Chris S was just making subtle moves? Thank you for letting us nerd out on our favorite albums, Warren and PLAP team!
Chris Shifleff didn’t play on TCATS.
great album!! thank you for this video 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thanks ever so much!!
Warren, this is a top video! You should do a video about Feeder. Extremley underrated UK band. Worked with Chris and Gil on a few albums. Comfort in Sound, Echo Park etc. That would be cool! Get Grant on too!
Thanks ever so much! Yes, Feeder are a wonderful band!
Use to live in sutton!!!
I have family from Sutton!
About time that someone (relevant) complimented Nate's playing. I hate it when people treat him like the band's running joke. Same as Metallica's Lars.
How do you recall these mixes with such an amount of fader and EQ riding? Were there no revisions??
EDIT: at 30:40 he talks about recalling mixes...
Thanks Warren & Chris. Great interview!
Warren, pleeeeeeease take me to London with you someday! I’ve never been out of the U.S., and your start to this video made me feel like Ally Pally would be a great place to check out. (Bucket List.) 🙋🏻
Anyway, no compression on drums is amazing. Never would’ve thought to use a synth to help with the drum sounds.
This was the first time I’d ever heard “saved my bacon.” I love it.
Great interview I’ve never been to Epsom but I’m a big fan of the salts and the Foo 🤘🏽
haha yes! Epsom!!
I like to take a Little Dipper in it once a week if urei catch my drift
We started the conversation with “I didn’t use compression” to a 4:1 on the bus compression. The whole thing is on tape so there is compression. Then he slammed the The 2 track tape. So there was plenty of compression happening. You couldn’t get away with that in 2019 with Pro Tools. Also, 1997 there was automation especially on a 80 channel SSL.
Jan 1997 id say ..Chris is a great producer...he deploys the old sm57 on the floor behind the drum stool technique all the yime i believe
OMG OMG.... CONTENT!! Mega content!
Thanks ever so much!!
The vocal chorus’ of My Poor Brain sound panned sort of three & nine o’ clock and are double tracked. Presumably he didn’t quadruple track vocals so how was this achieved? Cheers, videos are absolute quality.
These videos make me wanna rob a bank, buy an SSL and make records till I die.
great great great
Thanks ever so much my friend!!
Wicked; between Bradley, Chris and yourself, I feel I was there at these sessions. One question; 'Molt, moult?', did I hear the word correctly? Correct me if I'm wrong, I took it's meaning to be; take an aux off a track, maybe out of one console into another, tweak the schnizzle out of it and push it back in along side the original; akin to parallel compression but in this case with EQ, gating etc. instead of comp; is that the idea?
@Bring MeSunshine He is saying "Mult" - A physical place on a patch bay with multiple patch points. He could patch from the Neve into a "mult" and come out to two or more separate channel strips on the board with very different EQs to bring into the mix more or less. Cheers!
Mult. Just a patch point to split the signal to two outputs
Yes! Mult = Multiple! Meaning you can take one output and multiply it through the patch bay so it goes through multiple pieces of equipment and then often summed back to one input!
Mult, right. Thank you all very much, it all helps the translation. Have a marvelous time recording, mixing AND 'multing'
Thanks Warren and Chris. I have a question for Chris regarding Drum panning. How far apart did you pan the overheads in general? All the way left and right or somewhere in between? Thanks
I would really like to hear some thoughts on this as well. There's so much bleed between two overheads it feels like you can get away with harder panning than with other instances of panning two tracks left and right.
Marvellous question Paul!!
@@Producelikeapro thank-you Warren, I look forward to Chris's reply
Nice to hear a Skype interview with proper audio equipment :)
Thanks ever so much!!
Hey Warren! Love these videos! (Well, all of your videos, really)
Do you think you could get Kevin Shirley to talk about his work with Iron Maiden? (Brave New World in particular)
Cheers, Warren! Keep up the good work!
2:58 of "Hey, Johnny Park!"....There's gotta be a story about this!
This was so fucking cool, how come I missed out on this video several months back?
great
Fucking ace! If you get the first album on interview - my life will be complete.