Not Again | The Steve Dangle Podcast

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  • On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, Adam tries to make us happy (00:00), what do you do with Mitch Marner? (07:30), revisiting the trade deadline and the Leafs lack of secondary scoring (47:00), where do the Leafs go from here (1:06:00), and Adam speaks on Residential Schools (1:29:00).
    Originally aired: June 2, 2021
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ความคิดเห็น • 783

  • @wilseph1
    @wilseph1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    Steven's reaction after Jesse Blake asked Adam Wylde "does it taste like mom?"

    • @nicelgie462
      @nicelgie462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Freud raising a glass to Jesse from the grave

  • @Danny9
    @Danny9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +269

    my anticipation for this episode is beyond comprehension

    • @rosstrapper7732
      @rosstrapper7732 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Legit just got back from a fishing trip. And this podcast was all I have been thinking about since Monday night lmao

    • @contrabis9365
      @contrabis9365 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You know it beother

    • @Danny9
      @Danny9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@rosstrapper7732 i thought of Steve, Adam and Jesse as soon as I saw the clock dwindled down to 0 😂

    • @39moe123
      @39moe123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You guys are ao miserable would your rather be us? Cause I will tell you I'd rather be bounced in the first round every year

    • @thegalactictimetraveler5829
      @thegalactictimetraveler5829 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hope you've enjoyed the last 3yrs of loss videos too lmaoooo this team sucks

  • @bigboi8770
    @bigboi8770 3 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Never clicked on a podcast faster

  • @chrislautoronto
    @chrislautoronto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    I want to understand why we gave the "A" to two guys who have not demonstrated any level of leadership. Nylander had to comfort Marner in game 6 who looked like he was crying. I am sorry, when Nylander was playing along side Matthews and Marner, esp. in game 6, all of the sudden the Montreal defenders who were effective against those two, looked ordinary. (Not a knock on Hyman, just that we need to stop making excuses for those two who are making $22 million)

    • @dilo146
      @dilo146 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      How tf do u know what goes inside the lockeroom. How tf do u know anything about their leadership. Stop being stupid and go live ur life. You, me and every other fan don't know anything what happens behind the scenes. There must be a reason why he has a A. Someone's talent is not correlated with leadership qualities

    • @motelbobby4104
      @motelbobby4104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @isthatyoubetha lmao you are both muppets

    • @MLGSandmayne
      @MLGSandmayne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Surely one of the A's should be going to/have already gone to Spezza? Aside from vet presence and established leadership he seems to regularly show up beyond his role on the ice - A leadership group of Tavares Spezza Reilly (Muzzin Hyman and if he stays Thornton) sounds fairly well rounded

    • @jalenblight2014
      @jalenblight2014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @isthatyoubetha Yea Hyman isn't a loser like Matthews and Marner. Never seen him lose before

    • @MJ-mt8qp
      @MJ-mt8qp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      um we all know what happens. Spring comes leafs loose. It's a good point why 2 spoiled rich kids are "leaders" when they've not.

  • @chrisl4665
    @chrisl4665 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Steve’s next book: “This team makes me sick, and I hate them.”

  • @BaneOfV
    @BaneOfV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Steve if you quit doing lfr's you shall be demoted to steve stickhandle

  • @jeffthibodeau3945
    @jeffthibodeau3945 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Thank You so much Adam for your history corner. So passionate, and explained so well. This Podcast is the best and my new favorite. To all those reading this, please share their link if for nothing more than their talk on the Residential Schools in Canada.

  • @PoolNoodleGundam
    @PoolNoodleGundam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Hello, it is I, sicko, here to declare that this series was the hockey gods punishing you guys for Adam's perennially atrocious takes

    • @andrewpoole160
      @andrewpoole160 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Well put!!

    • @BludFan
      @BludFan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Either that or his head bands

    • @erikmacaluso
      @erikmacaluso 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Adam, Steve, and Jesse's perennially atrocious takes.

    • @jamminninja8924
      @jamminninja8924 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@erikmacaluso all they have is atrocious takes . they make fun of edmonton when at least we have made the finals in my life time. the leafs havent made the second round in 17 years lol

  • @Kinvarus1
    @Kinvarus1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    "I don't want to know what Mom tastes like. Thanks very much Jesse." Words I never thought I'd hear Adam say :P

    • @johnmortimore460
      @johnmortimore460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Leafs need to reinstate policies of 60 years ago and send ANY young players who fail to perform when the stakes are high...down to the farm
      team, the Marlies, to
      LEARN!

  • @crenwrites
    @crenwrites 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Adam......OMG....."welcome to most people's jobs" A) Rude 2) Hilarious III) Fkn Nailed It. I had to stop the video, it was sooooo painfully spot on

    • @justusnixx
      @justusnixx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      can I get a timestamp for this? listening while I work and missed it(

    • @crenwrites
      @crenwrites 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@justusnixx 40:08 is where Steve's comment leads into Adam's reply

    • @justusnixx
      @justusnixx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@crenwrites thank you!

    • @dtrips905
      @dtrips905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gots the cringy "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" feel. Steve does't have to subject himself to LFRs; no validation on Adam and Jesse's part

    • @crenwrites
      @crenwrites 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dtrips905 If it was anyone other than Adam or Jesse, I'd 100% agree. When it's your buddies you've known for years, I trust their judgement to know how far and how hard to push. I mean, neither one has tried to stop Steve from a "modified" LFR. It's like they know "you will be back" when it's the first game of the next season. They've only said "you have to do them", not how to do them. And at the end of the day, I think they all know that if Steve decides he doesn't want to do them anymore, they would support him. They've just done the friend math and know where this is going to end up.

  • @might33duck76
    @might33duck76 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Thank you SDP for talking about it. I’m Indigenous. I lived in my First Nation community for over half my life and it’s pretty rough. I grew up cheering for the Leafs like you guys and it was a way of escaping reality. I love this podcast. I watch every single one of Steve’s LFRs. They make me feel better about this heartbreaking team after heartbreaking losses. Thank you guys for creating the best hockey content! 💙

  • @QRM00
    @QRM00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    I guess CJ's take was right after all... The Montreal Canadiens are Juggernauts.

    • @sleblanc2009
      @sleblanc2009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      And the leafs are juggernots

    • @calebread6966
      @calebread6966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      until they meet the avs lol

    • @scottmcfarlane7524
      @scottmcfarlane7524 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hmm maybe wait to say that till you play teams other then in canada 🇨🇦

    • @QRM00
      @QRM00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@scottmcfarlane7524 lol I dont actually believe it. Just memeing on the leafs fans who wrote off mtl in 5 games

    • @LS-rw9yp
      @LS-rw9yp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@QRM00 This had zero to do with Montreal and everything to do with Toronto! Montreal is hot heap of rotten trash! Toronto blew it like they always do beating themselves! Did your hamster go off the rails...

  • @DACOSTA78
    @DACOSTA78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    I can’t wait to see the Sportsnet ticker with the caption “Chara is a Leaf” 🤪

    • @mildsuffering4734
      @mildsuffering4734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      👂👀👂
      👃
      👄
      Word

    • @Wexter0083
      @Wexter0083 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      The Leafs should try to sign all of the former 2003-2012 Senators. I wonder if Dany Heatley is still playing?

    • @DACOSTA78
      @DACOSTA78 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Wexter0083 lol, I wouldn’t be surprised

    • @DACOSTA78
      @DACOSTA78 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brady3491 lol, oh man! I can already hear them say it! 🤣

    • @jjRam
      @jjRam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fastest jersey I would ever buy

  • @alkaline1100
    @alkaline1100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I am not going to diagnose MM, but I can tell you from observation that it seems he's seriously impacted by a paralyzing fear of failure. Having a dad like his, I'm sure that played a role. He really needs a good sports psychologist if he's ever going to make it to the next competitive level.

    • @loo194
      @loo194 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you! This is what I have been saying but I get blown up everytime. We know his dad has been way too involved, theres videos of Mitch being like 8 years old getting scolded as if it mattered. I wrote a report about the emotional abuse of junior hockey players and he likely got that, plus his Dad. It's sad and you can tell his mental health isn't okay

    • @THIS---GUY
      @THIS---GUY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The majority of the world's best athletes were forced into practicing and perfecting their game by parents. It's usually bordering on what would be considered abusive behaviour but it takes a certain amount of that lifestyle to be the best in the world at something.

  • @kohlclarey3049
    @kohlclarey3049 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    The leafs got 12 goals, almost two a game from not the big four. I don’t think depth scoring was terrible personally

    • @Hockeyhobo89
      @Hockeyhobo89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ya the depth was there

    • @futuresequence.
      @futuresequence. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      5 of those were from the defense. They were talking about the forwards.

    • @vinitshah4457
      @vinitshah4457 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I’m not as upset at guys like Soup, Engvall and Kerfoot for not scoring as I am our $11 million forwards for combining for one goal through 7 games (obviously JT not included). Yes you need depth scoring but you also need your stars to score

    • @dominiquerichard1342
      @dominiquerichard1342 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@futuresequence. the depth is where we got out scoring from. Its the top line guys who didnt score. thats what theyre saying

    • @futuresequence.
      @futuresequence. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dominiquerichard1342 I disagree. They were very hard of Mikeyev etc.

  • @Danny9
    @Danny9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    the album of leafs and bruins reference has me dying

  • @cameronschurek3462
    @cameronschurek3462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Oh you know it's a serious episode considering Adam dropped the headband

  • @Hockeyhobo89
    @Hockeyhobo89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I just wanted to see a series win for once in my life and the sad part is no one is surprised anymore when this happens.

    • @colester27816
      @colester27816 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Marner is 24 for all of next season same with Auston it’s fine. I believe we’ll be a great team!

    • @wagglewiggle
      @wagglewiggle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@colester27816 you believed you were great this year

    • @samwilliams2082
      @samwilliams2082 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@wagglewiggle you realize how long it takes a team to climb the mountain? rome wasn't built in a day. this team is nowhere near the top of the mountain. we have aways to go.

    • @thestonecanoe3159
      @thestonecanoe3159 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was more surprised that I was shocked it happened still lol. I handled it better then I thought, still got love for the Leafs and can't wait for next year's torture

    • @eunit8899
      @eunit8899 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have exciting news for you from the future

  • @emmanueliannacci9426
    @emmanueliannacci9426 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    "None of the first round 1-4 matchups are interesting. No way Habs wins, it's kinda boring" Your words. Not mine.

  • @thomascuccia9444
    @thomascuccia9444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    If anyone is interested in a movie on residential schools in Canada, check out the movie called Indian horse (2017). Just a heads up, it’s a very serious movie. Still, it does an excellent job at not only showcasing what life was like for these children but also shows how the survivor's life was forever affected. People tend to forget how recent these schools still existed the last closing in Canada; I believe 1996.

    • @dinosinspace
      @dinosinspace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We Were Children is a good doc too

    • @JeremiahAKAtheSportsBeard
      @JeremiahAKAtheSportsBeard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I will totally check this out. Grew up on a reservation in Montana beautiful area but some of the stuff I saw was pretty bad.

  • @jackcliffe6040
    @jackcliffe6040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    My school is in the Algoma District and there is a class in high school, that teaches you about the history of the indigenous peoples of Canada, and what happened like residential schools, and I’m currently taking this class.

    • @slipperynodd578
      @slipperynodd578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My school always covers it in history at least for a little bit every year just so we don’t forget

    • @spcoll7587
      @spcoll7587 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm glad to hear it. I'm in my 40s, in high school we just learned about treaties, tribes and yeah, touched on how we "mistreated and deceived" Indigenous peoples a little bit. Really glossed over the heinous treatment over the Native people.

    • @joer8854
      @joer8854 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spcoll7587 Yeah same and it's horrific that while they were teaching us about that the schools still existed and in my classes they never once said the words residential school. The very first time I heard about it and they told me when it ended I almost fell over literally.

  • @derekgray9774
    @derekgray9774 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    You know the Leafs lost an elimination game when the pod goes nearly 2 hours...

    • @Hockeyhobo89
      @Hockeyhobo89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I remember when 2hrs was the norm 😔

  • @erikmacaluso
    @erikmacaluso 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "Who the hell would take that albatross?"
    "Everybody"
    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Em-fz6eb
    @Em-fz6eb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    To be fair Steve, Hutch definitely *can* stop pucks well at the AHL level and he's said that he signed because he loves playing with the Marlies.

  • @usranger13
    @usranger13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dubas needs to bring in a shrink or something. I don't agree with Adam on a lot of things but he hit the nail on the head when he said (multiple times) that the problem with this team is between the ears.

  • @sollamander2206
    @sollamander2206 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Adam, you were literally blasting Marner on social media to the point of getting in a fight with his agent today, how dare you throw stones from your glass house about going after athletes on social media. Don't concern troll about therapy for something you did that day.

    • @shawn6745
      @shawn6745 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How is being critical of Marner the same as actually sending hate to Marner himself? They never said you can't be critical of these players, just don't be sending them hateful messages and take it to them personally

    • @getrektbud
      @getrektbud 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Literally blasting him? Wtf did he blast him with

  • @DevanTheMan
    @DevanTheMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "Taylor Swift.. I mean Taylor Hall" hahahahaha. Priceless. 😅

  • @hafizshariff6710
    @hafizshariff6710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    "Does it taste like mom?" made me spit my water out. 😂

  • @tronnoadam
    @tronnoadam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really really don't like Jesse and Adam's reaction to what Steve is saying about LFRs. LFRs aren't his job, people change what they do for their job all the time, and if it's actively making him miserable he shouldn't feel like he has to keep doing them.

    • @misslolohannah
      @misslolohannah 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      LFRs are certainly part of his job right now, but as it's on his own channel, he gets to dictate the direction of what he does. I don't want Steve to force himself to make LFRs if he's not passionate about doing them, that's going to show through and make them less enjoyable. If he wants to branch out, he absolutely should.

  • @zainery
    @zainery 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    BEEN WAITIN

  • @SamaelBDS
    @SamaelBDS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Just want to say, as a Habs fan we miss all of you leafs fans. No matter what people say about you guys and no matter how nasty we were to each others in comments you all still stayed classy when it counted. Jets fans are already showing to be absolutely classless. Hope you guys make it far into the playoffs next year

    • @Northerngirl15
      @Northerngirl15 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thats very nice of you to say, it's not very often that anyone gives Leaf fans a compliment, much less treats us like we're humans, I understand it's a passionate game, but we have anywhere from 2-3000 trolls coming at us on every Leaf post, it gets overwhelming & ridiculous. All the best to your Habs, enjoy your playoffs 😊

    • @royalflushqc9933
      @royalflushqc9933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Northerngirl15 Leafs fans always stays behind their team. They are hard on them because they are passionate by them. Can’t say the same about Vegas fans I’m telling you if Vegas fails every year as Leafs done the last decades Vegas fans would go missing and that’s coming from a habs fan

  • @RamanN00B
    @RamanN00B 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I would also be devastated if the Leafs lose Zach Hyman. He's tied for my favorite current leafs player.

  • @vedicardi
    @vedicardi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    the part where you rip on pierre is very fun

  • @KOB2717
    @KOB2717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "dom ducharme is a bad coach" yet he still outcoached keefe lol imagine that. hope thornton is back next year on pp1

  • @predestinedbyGod
    @predestinedbyGod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Secondary scoring was not a problem, 16 and 34 choked

  • @mikefarino4368
    @mikefarino4368 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Want to know who might have been able to calm down Marner and calm his nerves, his close friend Matt Martin.

    • @MJ-mt8qp
      @MJ-mt8qp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      also some adversity earlier in life, he's SOFT!

    • @wagglewiggle
      @wagglewiggle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MJ-mt8qp you're probably softer

  • @tbmb9531
    @tbmb9531 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tampa had SEVERAL deep playoff runs prior to winning the cup. Not a great comparison

  • @WhiteChocoateify
    @WhiteChocoateify 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    People forget that Mikheyev was being talked about for the Calder last year. I believe he is a really good player with offensive upside. But he has become what he was told to become. Last year he filled in on the first line and second line a lot and did very well. This year Keefe played him as a 3rd liner and a penalty killer. He had 23 goal season in the KHL before he signed with the leafs. I think he has a lot more upside then we think. Minnesota would appreciate him with Kaprizov

  • @VED34
    @VED34 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    If there’s anything positive about being a Leaf fan, it’s having Steve, Adam, and Jesse to suffer alongside of. Love you guys

    • @matth268
      @matth268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm a bruins fan and still listen to these guys every episode. Lol

  • @commissioner1969
    @commissioner1969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    If the leafs stay the course they should be the San Jose Sharks in 15 years.

    • @cozumel7063
      @cozumel7063 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i don’t appreciate that

    • @MrPooly1459
      @MrPooly1459 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's not true... The Sharks at least managed to win a playoff series!

    • @jeremyfaller4338
      @jeremyfaller4338 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would anyone want that lol

  • @willd7757
    @willd7757 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If your a true leafs fan than after 4 game when they go up 3 to 1, your thinking immediately there going to drag this onto a game 7

    • @nathanmerritt9739
      @nathanmerritt9739 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is exactly what I thought when we won the 4th game

    • @THIS---GUY
      @THIS---GUY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I after the bruins game 7 I'll never get my hopes up again lol
      Marty killed us last time we had a stacked team and made a run and then Carey does the same thing before we can even get started ☠️😭

    • @kylespratt4072
      @kylespratt4072 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@THIS---GUY Marty?

  • @rowanblaze4185
    @rowanblaze4185 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "Nick Foligno's post game interview will be in a car on the way back to Columbus." LMAO. As a Jackets fan, I love that. We absolutely adore Foligno here, apart from his stupid Papa John's commercials. We were devastated to see him and Savard go.

    • @MJ-mt8qp
      @MJ-mt8qp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      you can gladly have him. Toronto barely even used him.

    • @futuresequence.
      @futuresequence. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't think he's going back unless he wants to make less then he can somewhere else. I think CBJ is going for the NYR retool after this season, especially now that they're likely to move Jones before the draft.

    • @rowanblaze4185
      @rowanblaze4185 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@futuresequence. hey you don't say that. You're probably right, and we might even lose Laine, which means PLD walked for basically nothing, and we're still paying him.

    • @futuresequence.
      @futuresequence. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rowanblaze4185 I don't think Laine will be going anywhere. Once he grows up and starts acting like an adult his skill will have him challenging Matthews again.

    • @nickasher8042
      @nickasher8042 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I will not tolerate this Foligno’s Favorite slander lol

  • @oharayoung4992
    @oharayoung4992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mitch was scared to do soo many things, i noticed that and i was telling my dad it seems like his body and mind is not built for the playoffs and sheldon keefe is a amateur coach lol sucks cheering for this team but im sinking with the ship and ill tune in next year soo the good old leafs will Fool me again lol

    • @84coleR
      @84coleR 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Keefe didnt adjust the lines well enough in the last 2 games. Mitch is has a smaller frame and is lacking a bit of muscle. If he could gain some mass I think that would help his on ice confidence and physical play

  • @charlesmartineau
    @charlesmartineau 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Habs does not have a good coach? Better than the Leafs... he outsmarted keefe who cant split marner and matthews

  • @spliffcliffdiff
    @spliffcliffdiff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You guys arent giving the habs their due. Built to win in the playoffs, leafs built to win in the reg season. Simple as that.

    • @DaaaaaBears
      @DaaaaaBears 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Habs are built to miss the playoffs and the leafs handed them a series lol they’re literally terrible

    • @spliffcliffdiff
      @spliffcliffdiff 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DaaaaaBears how's that take looking now... One win away from the cup.

    • @DaaaaaBears
      @DaaaaaBears 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spliffcliffdiff um no. No they’re not and they aren’t beating lightning or the islanders even if they manage to beat Vegas, they’re dogwater

  • @RyanandMarilena
    @RyanandMarilena 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good lord I came back to this and the Marner discussion around 20 min in HAS NOT CHANGED WHATSOEVER

  • @bucketophil
    @bucketophil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You can tell how distraught Adam is because he forgot the headband. 😔

  • @NerfKnuckles
    @NerfKnuckles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "Does it taste like Mom?" - Jesse Blake

  • @jasonb6860
    @jasonb6860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Indigenous Teacher here. I can tell you that Residential schools are no longer glossed over at the high school level in the places I've taught, which were in Manitoba, but I don't know how much it's affected education elsewhere. But I also remember barely touching on the subject when I was in high school. Also the guy you were thinking about at 1:43 or so was Chretien. He was head of Indian affairs under Trudeau and drafted the White Papers, which looked at amending the Indian act/dismantling residential schools. His white paper, however, called for the end of Indian status and dismantling the reserve system, which enraged enough Indigenous Canadians that resistance organized, spurring the National Indian Brotherhood (now called the Assembly of First Nations) to publish the Red Paper, which later morphed into their document Indian Control of Indian Education (ICIE for short). ICIE was a big influence on the 94 calls to action of the Truth and Reconciliation commission in 201, among other things.

  • @liambeard7067
    @liambeard7067 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Adam Wylde is terrible. I seriously feel for these fans ......the fans and the city of Toronto deserves better but 17 years of losing has dropped hockey IQ from most Leaf fans.

  • @keeganmoonshine7183
    @keeganmoonshine7183 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dangle if you want to step back to work on other projects you should consider weekly LFR's instead of after every game.

  • @drivethru6155
    @drivethru6155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jesse was trying to do a comedic bit at the start and Adam and Steve immediately call it weird instead of running with it, cool

  • @brendanorourke4727
    @brendanorourke4727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    As much as I'm enraged, I think you have to keep these guys. Mitch made me mad because he didn't score (assist, whatever), and when he doesn't for a while he fumbles the puck, and toe picks with a frequency unjustifiable for someone of his skill level. On top of that, he looked like he was going to cry game 5-7(put on your Brendan Gallagher face, you're still ahead).That doesn't sound like someone who doesn't care. that sounds like someone who needs a sports psychologist. If he gets his head together, he's a world beater. If he won't go to a sports psychologists, trade him immediately.
    Matthews made me frustrated a lot because he didn't score (SCORE DUDE SCORE WTF?). But he lead the first round in shots and was not a liability defensively in the least. He's not getting paid to be a Selke candidate, but this team should have been able to bang in one of his many rebounds in game 5, 6 or 7 so he had a chance to light up round two. He's too good to trade if he doesn't demand it.
    Rielly, Brodie were good and Campbell and Nylander (really) were very good. Tavares was decapitated and Muzzin was kneecapped. Freddy is out the door or maybe signing cheap if the flat cap and injury discourage other teams.
    Who do you get rid of from that group? Probably Marner. Who do you get rid of to make the team better? Probably nobody.
    These young men's failures are connected, in our collective hearts, to a history of almost infinite failure that stretches back to the dawn of time. Before they were born. before me and Jumbo Joe were born. Our pain is understandable. One of the goalies that last won the cup here wore palm aid in his hair instead of a mask on his face. Our dedication should be rewarded.
    These kids have been drafted to carry that weight, and no matter how many quadrillion dollars they get paid, it ain't easy. If they were Ducks, or Lighting, or not Leafs, or even had been less capable of overachieving in year one and two together themselves, an identical failure would be less catastrophic. They would still have years to do "the thing."
    I fear our collective anxiety is poisonous to whomever dons the blue and white, and if we can't manage it we'll we will manifest crushing elimination game panic attacks in all our potential heroes. I'm not one to be easy on multi millionaires (ever), and I know it's "not our fault", but we must manage our emotions as a strategy to get what we want. Nay, what we need.
    If we all chill, these guys might be the guys. or not, but chill.
    If you read this far, know that I love you, and I feel your pain and we should all focus our rage on the ghost of Harold Ballard.
    Stay strong

    • @leighperreault785
      @leighperreault785 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Grew up hearing that the Leafs would win the cup once Harold Ballard died.

    • @stephentyler4352
      @stephentyler4352 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. The knee jerk reactions of the fans, especially before the game or series is even played, is what kills the mojo. While I agree the fans need to chill out, the players need to be more engaged in gameplay.

    • @spcoll7587
      @spcoll7587 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty insightful. As someone who hates the Leafs, and spent mon night laughing my head off, I actually agree with your analysis. Unless you are willing to risk trading marner for lesser plyrs that MAY provide stronger depth for the lineup throughout, you kinda have to give it another shot. But the Leafs window, with this group, is starting to slowly shrink. Muzzin is 32, Tavares is over 30 and isn't getting better or quicker, and his contract is becoming an albatross. Reilly is 29 and is a FA in a yr. And honestly, another failure like this, and Matthews could decide he's sick and tired of the TO media and market, and want to go back to the US.

    • @stephentyler4352
      @stephentyler4352 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spcoll7587 The Leafs players and staff can do a much better job unloading the pressure of winning Round One and beyond on to their opponents. That’s certainly easier said than done, however, nothing worth achieving comes easy.
      Kris Versteeg recently shared his insights on a telephone interview with the media. As a retired player he seems to offer a thorough understanding of what led to the early exit for the Leafs.
      Expectations and pressure management is ultimately what I firmly believe did the most damage to the team as a whole. That’s not to say that some players did not shine through. Looking for someone to blame always seems to come before any constructive criticism is shared. That could change for the better as well.

  • @tymetabooker
    @tymetabooker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Leafs are gonna have to win the cup twice to put this one behind them

  • @detwin
    @detwin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They bring Pierre on to talk about how he coached for the Penguins and that time Lemieux and Jagr got together and scored a goal during a game.

  • @johnefrederick1590
    @johnefrederick1590 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Any London Knights fans here? I am curious about Marner’s playoff career in the O, they had long playoff runs and that league is no walk in the park come playoffs as well. How did he handle the physical stuff as a teenager is my question?

    • @bencrncich5088
      @bencrncich5088 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was incredibly dominant on a line with Christian Dvorak and Matthew Tkachuk. I don’t really recall too much physical play from him then, because most teams couldn’t keep up with their talent, and our depth lines were far more physical as you might expect. Marner’s line was just so much more skilled than the opponent it seemed like they scored at will, and Tkachuk’s style of play handled so much of the physicality that Marner could stay on the perimeter. In some of the toughest games, including the memorial cup final, Marner was still good, and deserved the MVP, but wasn’t always the one who scored the big goal.

  • @mst3k54
    @mst3k54 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Leafs are screwed. You think they’re gonna beat Tampa in the 1st round of the playoffs next year?!?!?

    • @casautddg
      @casautddg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They’ll play Boston

  • @ulmwilliams57
    @ulmwilliams57 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So, what I've learned in the last two playoffs is that come postseason I'd rather have Jamie Benn and a one legged Tyler Seguin than Matthews and Marner...

  • @CJ-oj8om
    @CJ-oj8om 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There world view going to be so shook when Montreal beats Jets. First game to the tired Montreal Canadians.

  • @KennethBarr1957
    @KennethBarr1957 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What was Joe Thornton’s reason for being a Leaf? Leadership? What has he lead the Bruins & Sharks to? He’s a classic under achiever. As the British say, he flatters to deceive.

  • @AD-Dom
    @AD-Dom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    TJ Brodie had more goals in the playoffs than Mitchell Marner. There's the trade.

    • @basilictrone42
      @basilictrone42 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And 34 as well lmao. And Brodie did it in 1 period compared to 34 and 16 who had 1 goal COMBINED in 7 games

  • @noahpepin49
    @noahpepin49 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    100% as an inuk (for you guys inuit) id like to be part to talk about what happened with indeginous people

  • @Matthews34
    @Matthews34 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My issue is that CAMPBELL HAD A HIGHER SAVE % THAN PRICE

    • @nexusog2474
      @nexusog2474 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      save % was very misleading in that series. price was way more clutch.

  • @Boxcarboxingboxer
    @Boxcarboxingboxer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Watching Mitch borderline cry in the box with willy was tough. For how good he can be i dont think you trade him. You ask him to work on adding muscle and going to the front of the net.

    • @Thomas_Erickson
      @Thomas_Erickson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He’s too afraid of the moment. That’s why he has those derp moments. I think he would honestly do better in playoffs in a different environment.

  • @grahamrenfrow8059
    @grahamrenfrow8059 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As an American, your reactions to learning about the residential schools is the same as to when I learned about the Tulsa Massacre, or the Wilmington Coup, or the Philadelphia bombing, which happened in the far off time of 1985!!!!!! I learned about these things on Twitter after I graduated, not in school. I grew up and went to school in the same state as the Wilmington Coup and there was never a hint of it in our education. It is a horrible realization as to how far systemic racism reaches

    • @emotionallyinvestful
      @emotionallyinvestful 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The US has just as brutal of a history towards our indigenous people. It's astounding.

  • @scorpiocanuck6321
    @scorpiocanuck6321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I will always remember the smugness of our "star players" in the press conference the day after. Especially when the thought of accountability came up. Boy I'm finding it harder to cheer for this franchise every year. I'm definitely done watching in the regular season. It's kind of worthless tbh.

  • @brendanroe8604
    @brendanroe8604 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Caps fans gave up on the team the season before they won the cup...same story for the lightning after that 1st round sweep...keep the faith gents

  • @jamesp7972
    @jamesp7972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Adam I've been usually in a Love/Hate relationship with you but by golly I've been lovin' ya lately buds!!

  • @JimRook
    @JimRook 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I laughed so hard and played over the mom part about 5 time. Steve’s face absolutely kills me

  • @nanoscientist23
    @nanoscientist23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    (1:21:39) where they're talking about the hamburgler moment, the sad part is that what we had in Jack Campbell this year

  • @thispersoncommented
    @thispersoncommented 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For all of his faults. At least Nylander plays the same no matter what the situation. they could be in a really close game in the playoffs or they could be getting completely destroyed and he still plays like Nylander. People say that he doesn’t care and while I don’t think that’s true if it is it actually might be an advantage in close games in the playoffs because he doesn’t get nervous and start making mistakes.

  • @StonedSpagooter
    @StonedSpagooter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If the leafs were 20 Zach Hymans they would win the cup

  • @Marixa1979
    @Marixa1979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Here's a curve ball for you Leafs fans that you won't want to hear: If the Leafs trade away Marner who is Matthews' best friend, does this change his desire to re-sign with the Leafs in a few years when his contract is up?

    • @motelbobby4104
      @motelbobby4104 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've never even heard they were best friends so who gives a fucks. It's not a preschool picnic where Matthew's will only sign if mitch is too. Get real

    • @Marixa1979
      @Marixa1979 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@motelbobby4104 It's more of a case of why would Matthews stay in Toronto at the end of his contract if it isn't even fun playing there? Toronto fans think people desperately want to play in Toronto, but it can be a brutal place to play. Mitch being there would be the one thing I would see offsetting his desire to leave.

  • @Mohyl888
    @Mohyl888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I get the point but I disagree on trading the core pieces (unless it's favourable ofc). It may be too early for some to acknowledge, but there was progress on almost all ends --- steamrolled everyone in regular season, more engagement and commitment defensively..
    Loosing to the Habs in 1st round is bad, but not something that can't be redeemed. It came down to the two individual mistakes in OT. It's a thin line between winning and loosing... Playoffs are all about matchups and adjustments - the Leafs didn't make any adjustment but I'd argue they didn't had much room to begin with... Too many similar "status quo" players i.e. Engvall, Mikheyev...
    In saying that, I would like Kyle to further diversify our depth.. More abrasive, mean, tough and able to wear down/annoy opponents - as opposed to betting on speed and... tenacity? And I don't think trading Mitch is a necessity here.
    All-in-all, I think the team (the core) is still heading down the right path and on the verge of something good. Cheers!

  • @Decembersown21
    @Decembersown21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:06:35 LMFAO "Look at steves face. I just wanna kiss you. Im so sorry. I just wanna tell you itll be okay"

  • @martinklatt6937
    @martinklatt6937 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's time for Sandin, Liljegren and Robertson to get regular ice time.

  • @patrickrusso9919
    @patrickrusso9919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    To be fair, Kadri was more harmful then beneficial with his yearly playoff suspension...but his grit is missed out there

  • @SF1886
    @SF1886 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The amount of Leafs fans who complain about them being in a tough division now have totally forgotten choking this series to Montreal and the ridiculous loss the year before to CBJ.
    Also the Marner discussion is exactly the same 3 years later.

  • @MushroomMelt
    @MushroomMelt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is gonna be a tough one...

  • @thomasiacobucci7260
    @thomasiacobucci7260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Marner for Eichel pls 😂👍🙏

  • @BrotherAlpha
    @BrotherAlpha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HIRE. AN. ARMY. OF. SPORTS. PSYCHOLOGISTS.
    Three seasons where you worst game of the playoffs is the do-or-die final game is a clear sign that this is mental. You need to fix that if you want to win.

  • @maxv658
    @maxv658 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "...I'm going all in on 'Deez Nuts'."
    *Later*
    "...it's actually raising money to fight testicular cancer."
    I don't think I've ever gone from hysterical laughter to "aw, that's nice" so quickly.

  • @chez0102
    @chez0102 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yo its 2024 and they are still talking about the same stuff like the power play, mitch and choking in the playoffs

  • @thelovefromupabove7347
    @thelovefromupabove7347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    *in outer space looking at the Earth*
    Steve: when did everything become a meme?!
    Astronaut: always has been...

  • @Christhegreatbro
    @Christhegreatbro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We as Leaf fans are at the point that if and when we finally win a series : we won’t even cheer, it will be like “Finally you bastards”

  • @Blackphillipsupporter
    @Blackphillipsupporter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Keep that beard growing!

  • @Flyyyy453
    @Flyyyy453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I miss the Mats Sundin ERA -- haven't had a playoff team SINCE then frankly speaking.

    • @THIS---GUY
      @THIS---GUY 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Marty shut us out when we had the best team of that Era and Carey just did the same to us again ☠️

  • @WeLearnByLiving
    @WeLearnByLiving 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Adam saying Ducharme is not a good coach when he clearly outclassed Keefe with the Danault vs Matthews match-up, the managing of his top 4 in Def and the line changes...while Keefe kept Matthews and Marner together so Danault could shut them both...

    • @lewisgriffin9684
      @lewisgriffin9684 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's what I was saying and Montreal won game 1 against Winnipeg so I think the team does better than everyone is giving them credit for

  • @peterblomert2622
    @peterblomert2622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Steve I feel for you really but habs fans will harass laffs fans about this series win because all we ever hear year after year is we are the best,we are winning the cup and we’re Canada’s team! 😩

  • @PataJuzmo
    @PataJuzmo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "you suck" ...off to a watch-list and therapy, and no licence.
    Not a thing one should do, but geez...

  • @ngrosskurth
    @ngrosskurth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Speaking as a Bruins fan, I don't even have the heart to "play the classics" anymore. This feels like the pre 2004 Red Sox that would do just enough in the season to get your hopes up just to rip your heart out and stomp on it in the playoffs.

  • @Duussif
    @Duussif 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember certain someone commenting that Montreal will be a juggernaut before the season. Just saying.

  • @martinklatt6937
    @martinklatt6937 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was injuries, circumstance and coaching that lost the series. Not fair to blame this on Marner!

  • @360flip19
    @360flip19 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can't blame the flat cap for any problems. Many other teams are in a tough spot for the same reason. I know it sucks, but it's not an excuse. Marner is overpaid, no matter how much gerrymandering you try to do.
    Edit: Thank you for shedding light on such a serious topic. Is so tragic and so many of us need so much more education on this. I'm ashamed to admit how little I know and how much of a bubble I have been living in my whole life. It's just disgusting. This needs to be acknowledged and we should all do our part.

  • @tinmanpickle7212
    @tinmanpickle7212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Faleno should resign for 1 more year,Joe should retire, Jason Spezz and Yak should be back back. Give a 2 way 1 year deal too Gel. Resign Anderson for 1 or 2 years,No save can go to the Krack

  • @kylespratt4072
    @kylespratt4072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imagine dangle stops lfr n that same year the leafs do the thing lol. Cup

  • @spatuloso
    @spatuloso 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think its incredibly important to remember that:
    The Government == The People.
    We can say all the things we want about how its the governments responsibility to educate and reperate, but WE are the governemnt. WE as Canadian citizens bear that responsibility as well, and we need to do all of that and more.

  • @Mirjegan
    @Mirjegan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I appreciate history corner. You gave a very measured recollection, but I really wanted to drive home how completely ill intentioned residential schools are. They wanted to ‘beat the Indian out of the child’. All the abuse was quite intentional. Truly horrible.

  • @darrenfleming7901
    @darrenfleming7901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If Ducharme is such a terrible coach then why did he come up with an effective strat to shut down the top scorer in the league while Keefe was too cocky to adapt and ran straight into the habs plan?

  • @andrewsutton2266
    @andrewsutton2266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I dont know what game it was, but when matthews was being ragdolled from behind and he had a huge smile on his face, I knew right then and there the leafs still dont have the killer instinct to win