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Everyone knows the Blue Voodoo line was solid, despite the nickname. They can sound very good. Crate in general gave great value to cost conscious buyers. They had alot of fans for various reasons, including me.
And they had some great solid state models, too. Like GX-130C (as well as the rack preamp version called XLP), Excalibur and GX1200H.
I had the solid state GX-130C half stack. It sounded awesome but I used an EQ. Now I did get a weird digital sound with the delay, especially with high notes. It didn't matter if it was running through the loop or direct input. The delay wasn't a pedal but a rack unit, don't know if that was the reason or not. I also had the DOD MP-2. I never got a great overdrive or distortion out of it. If I could go back, I would have gotten OD pedal instead of the MP-2. I ended up selling the head about a year ago. The cabinet and other equipment ended getting stollen, long story.
I've been using my BV150h for about 10 years. I run a Fotin Zuul to handle that buzz.
@Admiral_Bongo dude I've got a crate g120cxl and with the pre amp in outs with a metal zone it's one of my favorite solid state amps I've heard
The best kept secret in the tube amp world. The blue voodoo is one hell of an amp. It just takes some time to dial in the sound you want, which if we're honest; it's the same for all amps. You have to spend time dialing in tone
all u gotta do is pull the hissy gain back a tad which reminds me of a 5150 that i chose my bv120h over ✌️ yes, thank u guys for keeping this thing affordable for us and quite frankly, not knowing how to dial in an amp!
I love mine. 120 scribble script.
@@nicholasnovak7106 you're not wrong about them staying cheap. I bought my 1st gen almost a year ago for $350. And I couldn't be happier with that purchase.
Sadly, though, they're becoming more known and the price is going up in them. The cheapest I can find them is currently around $500
@@misled_perceptions i just got one for 300 flat, just look around locally
And let them warm up before doing so..
What I dig is that you aren't justifying a somewhat shitty amp just to contrarian, you are explaining the pros and cons and showing what can be done with this amp to give it the best sound you can from it, good or bad.
I keeps it real!
That's what really stuck out to me as well. I'll be brutally honest.
I'm usually not easily impressed in the slightest, and also? I'm not exactly an A-Typical full bore Thrash Metal type of dude anymore outside my (Pre-Black Album) teenage years, but I DO know a creditably honest and un-biased demo/review when I see one.
Definitely nailed this one and knocked it out of the park. It's awesome watching a content creator beginning to find their groove and progressively develop a brand over time. Good hustle!
@@belligerentamateur That you do bro. Even in the comment thread. I appreciate you snappin' back at that obvious troll reply I got in the Single Rect thread. LMAO!
Much respect homie.
How videos should be done
Seriously underrated amp. I played in a southern rock, grungy, metal band in the late 90's through one of these and got lots of compliments on how great it sounded. My secret was I used the clean channel exclusively as a pedal platform. I think I ran some Korg mult-fx board through it (emulating a JCM800 I think?) anyway the clean channel is amazing, and loud as all hell. I was never a fan of the gain/lead channel, so I didn't use it. Always thought the guys running a tubescreamer into the gain channel sounded like crap, and maybe that's my opinion, but pretty much everytime I played a show with another band running a BV, their guitarist would be asking how I got mine to sound so good lol And I didn't scoop the mids at all, you need mids to cut, and I had them in spades with this amp
Ive used that same head live several times. It works PERFECTLY and cuts through the mix. I use a SD-1 to boost.
That seems to be it's intended use, is behind a loud rock band.
@@CFChristian there are plenty of amps that dont cut through the mix, even though that is their intended use.
I use a sd1 keeping the gain low clears some of the scratchyness.
I was going to say the best setting was in the “off” position but once you got it zeroed in, it sounded pretty good. And like you said, for the price, it’s hard to beat. 🤘🏻
Throw an EQ on it and you have something worthwhile for cheap as well
After almost endless years, a proper Demo of my first tubeamp. I had mine on top of an EVH 4X12 and boosted with a Rocktron Rampage. And to be honest, the cleanchannel on my Bv 120 was badass.
The boosted drop c tones where fucking nasty, I can't believe how good that sounds. It has strong Rectifier "vibes" but with this more chunky 5150 style of low midrange. Definitely a great sounding amp.
If I was in the market for a live rig, I'd definitely want to give one a try.
They don't sound bad at all.
@@untoldguitarist Everyone that poo pooed them were playing the things in their bedrooms. They were never going to get a good sound with the limits of their surroundings and they had buyers remorse. To anyone who had the means to actually crank the master, they've always been killers, and will do a lot more than a thrash JCM type sound.
@@willrichtor Or they'd buy a pre owned one with 20 year old worn out tubes in the thing. "iT dOesNt sOunD Good" well no shit... These and the Crate Stealth head's are killers
like i told other dude... i sold my 5150 and kept this! 👍
DUDE! Try a BBE Sonic Maximizer in the effects loop. You'll be AMAZED at the difference in tonality, and volume! I don't even use any kind of boost in front of it. With volume at 9:30, plenty loud with full band! The BV60 has a lot of gain. I think that's where a lot of people run into issues. With my BBE 462 in the effects loop you can make it sound nice and thick, and it kind of tightens the sound up. Good tubes make a hell of a difference! The other thing is the speakers you use with it. I'm using G12T75's and G12H100's in 4x12. I have a Celestion G12-80 in a 1x12 that I'm going to try with it. That speaker is a bit darker and should work well.
I picked up a Red Voodoo(Sammy Hagar model) half stack a couple years ago for $450. The cab is loaded with UK made Celestion G12T-75 speakers and together they sound pretty badass. I've run a Fortin Blade in front of it and got some great results too. It's a cool tone option aside from my 5150 and Dual Rec
Did someone swap out your speakers? My Red Voodoo 412 cab has V30
@@sqlb3rn I have always known the Red VooDoo cabs to have V30's as well. For certain most other Crates Ive seen or owned that were equipped with Celestions were GT-75's
Nothing wrong with these amps as long as you know how to tweak and dial in the sound. Definitely not plug and play.
I bought a BV 120 right when the came out with the matching cab. It sounded good with the stuff that I was using at the time. I had it for about 10 years. Here and there I look for one to own again.
I had 3 BV's. The BV60 in the screen shot looks exactly like my old one right down too the same missing gold caps on the knobs. The BV's have a nice clean but the drive is anemic in many regards. The best incarnation of the BV's is the later produce and tough to find 3 channel BV 150 and BV 300. They redesigned the amp and added a 3rd channel with more gains available. BV's are a good and cheap way too get into tube amps if you are hesitant too spend big bucks.
When I saw Megadeth on the Cryptic Writings tour, Marty was playing these with a Boss Metal Zone pedal.. and it sounded amazing.
That metal zone has some amazing eq for a boost
you serious?
These things will make you go into god mode with a mesa cab 4/12
I picked 1 of these up from a friend i went to high school with. He stopped playing years ago and he was tired of the amp just taking up space.i got it for $250 heanf and 4x12 cab. I have a PRS 408 and it sounds pretty good to me..
Thanks for your honest review and showing us what the amp can achieve with a little time and trial and error...
Just further proves never to judge gear until you play it! I think you got it sounding great!
Agreed man, use your ears! Thanks!
@@belligerentamateur I used to guitar/bass tech for the band PENNYWISE, and during my time with them Fletcher’s rig was a VHT Pittbull Ultra Lead and a Crate Blue Voodoo 120 going into four Mesa OS Rectifier 4x12 cabs. 😂 Each amp had what the other was lacking. The Crate was dialed in to have a really slicing tone (think “…And Justice For All”), and blended with the huge lows and low mids of the VHT just sounded massive.
Sounds pretty good in the intro. When you set it flat it changes so much! Great review and demo, the amp definitely punches above it's price point.
You made it sound really good bro! My first 2 tube amps I ever got back in the day that I could afford was a Mesa Boogie Caliber 50 and a Crate Blue VooDoo 120. Sure, it took me a bit of fiddling to dial it in and used a boost in front like you did here, but I thought it sounded good and was a fun amp to play. And some of my local well respected and awesome guitarists that I looked up to heard it and said they were surprised at how good I made it sound. If not for anything but sentimental reasons, I Kinda still wish I had it.
Thanks man! I thibnk they're perfectly usable
I remember when these were brand new. That blue accent head with all the tubes on a similar 4x12 cabinet. Memories of a care free time.
My first half stack in the 90s was this 60w amp and the slanted 412. I sold the head several years ago and bough an old 5150 which I still use with that CRATE BV 412 cabinet which came loaded with Vintage 30s. I love them together.
Great test! I really like the fact you're taking "the lesser" amps and demonstrate they can sound great! I've bought Peavey Bravo some time ago for next to nothing, and I suggest you try it out next. Just change the speaker or put it through a decent cabinet, cause original speaker is.... Doodoo
I have two Bravos a Black one and a Grey one. Awesome amps with the right speaker.
I have a BlueVoodoo 120 & I love it! It has a great clean channel for a pedalboard.
Brings back memories from the 90s
You made it sound good with all your tweaking good job 👍
Thanks man!
The Mud Killer engaged is where it's at! The Dirty Tree sounds pretty good too, but has a little more mid coloration than I like.
Never had an issue with this amp. They always sounded really good for a JCM 800 copy.
agreed! I live in Finland and if U can set the hands on JCM-800 or Crate BV60h they go right out of every store or where they are available! so rare these days!
*It's like every budget end tube amp for the last 30 years. It comes out, it's everyone's favorite, 2-3 years pass, rich kids beat them up in place of their superiors, people get them used and the reputation tanks by 4 years after their debut.* I remember this amp in the 90's and everyone was floored by it over Marshalls but only for a few years. I also remember ratty SS coming out as heads for $200 and $300 that everyone raved about, then they would replace it with something tube or 5x the cost digital or solid state, and suddenly they were POS.
*This is one of many reasons I became an electronics/electrical engineer. I know the reality behind the technology better than any other guitarist I talk to including those with adequate circuit and theory knowledge.*
The reality will always be if you like it play it.
Now watch as the price of these go up! this sounds killer!
I’ve always liked these amps. Always hoped I would see a made in USA refined version but then I guess the company went away. Good speaker choice! Everyone forgets, speakers are half your tone!
More than half! Thanks man!
I've had a Red Voodoo and a Blue Voodoo come through my shop for repair. The one was a broken input jack, the other was a broken solder connection for the IEC plug. Other than that, those two were killer sounding amps with a little work. These are great sleeper amps for those who want to take the time to get to know it.
I liked how crate notched the pcb board between the power tube pins. It surprised me that they put that much thought into them.
@@countzero5150 Nobody who ever knew what they were talking about trashed these amps, so it's great to see someone who obviously knows about amps giving Crate their due. Crate amps were quality builds, which is why so many of their cheap practice combos just won't die even after decades of abuse.
Some of the sounds you were getting here made for a pretty wild ride. Your playing demonstrates this amp's strengths very well.
🍻
Thank you my man!
These actually sound great. I had one running through GT12-75 as my live show rig in my early 20's and it sounded great for Metalcore and sounded it's best with the master volume cranked nearly to 100%. It's not a perfect amp, but when I was young and couldn't afford a $1,000 half stack for shows that were un-mic'd mosh pit / dancing venues for straight edge kids, this was awesome. I will say they seem to have an issue with the cap's in my experience. Since then I've been a high end amp owner, Fryette, Orange, Rivera, Vintage Fenders, etc and this is my honest opinion, it's a great sounding amp. Know how to eq and pair things well and you'll get a good sound.
It is a pretty darn good amp....agreed!
I still use my crate BV and use it for recording purposes. Used this amp heavily for live work from late 90’s through to 2010’s. Never let me down and always had a cracking tone for metal.
I have the 2x12 60 watt combo, it auto biases between 6L6s and EL34s. 6L6s were definitely buzzy but EL34s got rid of the buzz tone. Bought it used in high school around 2001. 2 channels, boost switch, and spring reverb, effects loop, all tube... for like $400 I think. I'd have to spend $1,000+ today to find a 2x12 like that, I'll keep rockin' my Voodoo, lol. I might change the speakers out for a VC30 + Creamback H75, that's still cheaper than finding a new combo.
I’ve owned a blue voodoo for a decade now. The right cab and overdrive makes it amazing, which applies for all guitar heads.
What overdrive do u use?
@@kinghubie68 precision drive with v30s 4x12, but sounds better in my opinion through my other cab with 4 g12-70m speakers for a more 90s sound..
Great review, thanks Kyle. One of these came up for sale recently locally, I think I may pick it up.
I have the BV 120 full stack and I think it sounds great.
Sounds like a brighter jcm900 to me. Would prob sound significantly better with gt75s or greenbacks. Great review Kyle!!
The tone you landed on with the Schecter was amazing!!
13:30 YOUR MOMENT OF ZEN!
just like that, you've got a killer tone there man 🤘
Hell yeah I got a Red Voodoo signature 412 cab with European V30 for 200 bucks used in great condition. Solid birch sleeper cab for sure at that price.
I probably have a different take away than a lot of people… I do not miss owning a 33 after watching this. wow. 🤣
I have one of these and you make it sound way better than I can. Could you include in your future videos a close up picture of the control panel in the bottom left on your zoomed out camera shots, so if someone wants to see how you have these set it’s easier?
I do close ups of the settings as I'm adjusting them my man!
@@belligerentamateur right but in this video it was really difficult to tell where the knobs were actually turned to. The close up shots showed the entire amp head, but what I’d really like is just a close up of the control panel. It would also be cool to do the same for the OD pedals just to see if you’re using gain or just boosting. That Drop C tone was so punchy. I believe the young folk would say that tone is very cash money.
PS: All you would have to do is review an Orange Jim Root Terror, and you’ve basically done my whole collection on the high gain side.
Inb4 Can't Really Afford The Equipment.
Great video. Always wondered about these. Sounds pretty good to me!
Hi Kyle thank you for all the video reviews of amps, I have a question do you ever review BlackStar amps ?.. I haven't seen a review on one of those amps yet by you.
I had three at one time back when i was younger. A 60 watt and two 120 watt heads. I had two straight and one slant cabs loaded with eminence texas heats and swamp thangs. I put a 12ay7 in the reverb section, mix of 12at7 and 12ax7s and it totally opened up the tonal spectrum, killed the buzzy distortion and sounded more rectifier like
You got it sounded good man. Still got my 100 watt Crate stealth. Good amps for the money. These were made in St. Louis County. Their Vintage Club line sounded good too.
Love my 120 . No pedals, but active emgs in my esp, ltd. And it rips
Marty Friedman used these live with Megadeth in the late 90s and sounded great.
I know he used Blue Voodoo amps for a while, but I've read/heard that he used Bogner amps with Megadeth.
@@MeTuLHeD bogner triple giants(dave and marty) and a b.k butler preamp for solos ... check michael nielsen video on those ... instante megadeth tone
i bought this amp because Marty used it!! lol.
I have one it was repaired and i like it very much
I have owned a crate 212 flexwave for about 12 years and I've loved it since the day I got it. I might have to check out one of these voodoo amps!
Great review and especially points made on CAB, guitar (and pickup), and pedal selection. I've been playing a Blue Doodoo for 19 years and still haven't got around to buying a "better" amp. I do play out of a Fender 4x12 with Celestion v30's and had all the tubes switched for JJ and amp biased... aside from that it sounds damn good with my teles, LP's and a PRS. The amp tech even said he doesn't like Crates but this one sounded great... he was genuinely surprised, and so was I when I bought it. Biggest thing is, is this going to be your dream amp or the most well rounded or even best at anything?... nope, but it does a lot pretty damn well if you're willing to play it long enough to find out what you want out of it.
I have never heard anyone say these heads are garbage. I use to run one in stereo with my Dual Rec. Aside from the great gain, the clean channel is fantastic.
Weird, because I've only heard that, and this comment section confirms it's a popular sentiment.
@@belligerentamateur Maybe it's because of the Crate name. I had a lot of people roll their eyes at it....until they heard it.
I played the 100 watt a blue voodoo for years and it was a modded head with different tubes and valves. It roared.
I played through a BV120 half stack in the 90s. I thought it sounded great. I only gave it up because I got sick of dragging around a big amplifier. I put it on consignment in the early 2000s. It sold in 24 hours so I guess others like it as well. Yes, the clean channel was superb. I thought the high gain channel was good. I have to admit, this amp looked extremely cool on stage even if the orange glow was not from the tubes rather from amber lights next to the tubes.
I'm in the middle of purchasing a blue voodoo 120 amp and cab. Now i have no worries about making the deal
I had one with a matching 4x12 cab loaded with its original eminence speakers. best amp and cab I ever played on up until I got my archon 100. I played so many so-called great amps before I got my crate bv60 and they didn't hold a candle to this gem of a sleeper. Never played the v30 version of the cab but the eminence one made this amp shine.
I had only really ever heard of their reputation, but this sounded pretty damn decent to me.
I had the 150 head, I had two good days with it. The day I bought it and the day I sold it🤷
I've had several 120 models of the BV120H. They did need maintenance about once a year for the circuit board. They tended to get cracked solder joints which was typical for all the Crate and Ampeg amps of the 90's era. Put good tubes in it and it sounded great. What was weird to me was the blue tolex giant gold logo version sounded different than the black tolex with an industrial looking logo even though they were supposed to be identical. I A/B's them in the same cab and they sounded different every time I came across them. I tended to like the black ones a little better. They were a little fragile but other than that, they were pretty good amps. Heavy, as the 120's were like 65lbs. I ran gain and bass at like 1 o'clock, mids around 11 o'clock for most things. Highs were around 1 or 2 o'clock. It worked well. Good demo.
had just this Crate BV60 and it sounded better than the BV120h which is Black and chrome logo different font also but I am sure it sounds better and don't know why? Crate = Great?
Honestly I think sounds great. Nice raw sound.
As you say, you have to tweak a Mesa to get it where you like it! What's the difference between the Mesa Rectifier and a Creat Blue Voodoo? Well about 1500.00 dollars. That's it. I have a Mesa, the Crate 100 BV, Marshall's, EVH, Peavey, B-52, HiWatt, Fender, Vox, Orange, Bugera 1960 and so on! They all have their quirks. Also we all hear different things. It's all subjective. I can't stand the people who won't run a certain amp because it has a Cheaper name associated with it. I'll run anything that 1, Sounds good. 2, Has been Reliable for me. 3. Works for whatever situation I need it for. I've got expensive amps and amps that were a heck of a lot cheaper financially. If they do the job and do it well, I don't care what name is on the front. Usually it's a mob, pile-on mind-set. People want to sound and look cool. They don't want to stick out too much. Screw that crap! That's what Rock and Metal was built upon! Take your stand! Plant your flag! Do your thing! Don't back down! What's usually in a name? It depends how much money is thrown at it. Period!
Marty Friedman used this amp……..put a Maxon 808 and ISP Decimator in the front then a Noise Gate and Sonic Stomp in the loop and BOOM!!!!!! You’ve got gold. You can go crazy and but an EQ up front too.
Was just thinking that your description as buzzy with a tubby low end sounds a lot like a rectifier, then you mentioned it.
The last tone sounded amazing and totally usable on a modern mix, specially if paired with a massive active bass tone, to fill in the gaps and give it the balls it may lack.
I had the 120 150 and 300. The 150 and 300 where two off the best heads i ever owned.
Great video Kyle it's definitely getting shared in my crate group, in all honesty I prefer my BV 120 over my triple rectifier. Metolazone front boost, mxr 10-band in the loop and Wallah Godlike metal tones in my humble opinion.
It's "voila"
@@MetalZoned voice text sir LOL
@@garyshelly6555 happens to me all the time too 😂
Hey I fucking know you Gary lol I'm in your crate group as well!
Thanks man! Shoot me an invite to the group on FB
Hater of Crate amps for years. Had a G-10 once. Fun little amp. Just got a GX120C combo for free and it rips! Now if I can only work out intermittent switching and such!❤😂
I think Born to Land Hard by Cold As Life was recorded with one of these. Plenty of reason to use one.
I used one for years and it was sick. Never had any problem with it. Sold it because I didn’t need 120w
Drop C with the Mudkiller sounded awesome
Thanks, I agree!
Love this video man!!! I’m about to buy the 120w head with a 4x12 cab for $250!!! I play the same style but even lower in drop A with a schecter c-1plus with emgs so I’m stoked! Could you please tell me the exact same settings you used on the amp as well as the pedal you used for the last riffs? That’s the exact tone I want!!!! Thanks brother
I scored the 60w head and 4x12 cab for $250 a while back. My friend quit playing years ago and it just sat around taking up space. I've played a few schecters like the 1 you have. I've got a PRS 408, it sounds pretty good paired with the BV..
Cheers my friend
or what I did was I changed out the speakers. For crate, MOD speakers are the best approach!! I almost got the voodoo until I saw and heard The Shockwave!!
Crate has always been a favorite of mine, but the BV line was dope as fuck. Buddy had the 120 half stack growing up and he didn’t really play metal, so when I came over to jam I’d crank it and rip. Fuckin love that amp so much.
If this were a brand new amp and not called a crate blue voodoo, I bet we/d be drooling over it. lol. Such an underrated amp. Ppl forget these were expensive USA made amps when released. They could sound really good when dialed in correctly like Kyle does toward the end.
I played one. Its useable. But my biggest problem was as you crank the volume the eq shifts dramatically and you have to try to redail it in. Overall its a fight to get rid of the rattiness. Idk i think i would rather just put the money towards a better amp.
Had them when first came out. Thin sounding. But the last versions of these before they discontinued when crate stopped making amps, they were much better. Had more beef and more full bodied tone. I look back i should have kept that amp. Was a real Ball buster!! Im look on reverb now.
Lol this man said "World Of Music" and immediately knew you're from my home town lol 814 🤘
That first boost on the far right side sounded the best with that amp to me.
Every BV I played in stores sounded great. I preferred the tube tone on these over everything in the early 2000s. My DX212 had a BV setting and used it as my main sound, which I recorded and played out with it.
Can't wait to get this amp! Thanks buddy, sounds sweet! 🤘
You bet, man!
@@belligerentamateur Not sure on the exact mods we're going to do but a bias mod, probably some KT88 tubes and a few key replacement caps with higher quality ones. Should slay 🤘
This sounds... Fine. Like I expected it to be awful considering everything I'd heard about it. But this is perfectly fine. Absolutely usable.
I think ZZ Top used the Blue Voodoo for a while during the 90s. It was Crate's entry to the high-gain tube amp world, and had a sound that was very typical of the era ("Mids? We don't need no stinking mids!"). I would love to run across one of these things now!
Nice. A Blu-DooDoo 60. They make good doorstops.
My BV-120H was the first tube amp I ever owned... 8 years and 5 Amps later I still have the thing 🤣🤣🤣
Nissssssssssssssssssce 🍻
Only bad thing I've ever heard about this it's fragile & breaks down allot. But I've alway loved the tone.
That mud killer sounds good. There's a BV halfstack near me for only $400. It's very tempting...
Great price these days
I had one and regret selling it. Was great.
I used to have the 120 half stack years ago. It was pretty decent but once I got my Marshall JCM DSL 2000 100 WATT head the BV was gone. Along with my Orange 4×12, the difference in sound was huge. Still, that price for a tube head, it was a good amp for what I could afford.
I know its rumored Marty Friedman used only the Power amp section on these but to my ears the Voodoo nails the mid 90s Megadeth tone pretty damn well. In other words, It Rocks!!!
I have the newer 120 version. Sounds badass with a 7 string, passive pickups, sd-1 in front, Marshall 1936 2x12 (gt75s I think). I play death/black metal.
Hey man great video, the amp sounded really badass. Just wondering if you managed to get really heavy sounds also from an original Carvin Legacy
Never played the Legacy!
I was in a band with a guy who had one of these but turned his treble to max. This was 15 years ago and it still bugs me to this day.
B b b b b but the internet said these were shit!
Every guitarist should have a "boost bench"
The problem with the the blue voodoo is simple,even if you can dail in a good tone,if you play with a drummer that plays with any kind of power your tone will completely just vanish,you will constantly be trying to turn the thing up,it can get a decent scooped sound,but just doesn't work when turned up it gets weak and just doesn't move enough air,try the crate stealth series,now that is a sleeper in the tube amp world,they come in 50 and 100 varsities and are really good amps.
I didn’t know some of the Blue Voodoo cabs came with V30s. Mine came with Eminence made Private Jack equivalents and man I have the Wizards in another can but these are fucking LOUD and good too 👍
I had this head many mmon ago and still have the cab that was made for this cab. Both the head and cab ogether is magic, but the head alone... well, you are missing out.
They were among the better crate amps. Cool of you to check it out, I think it sounds good.
I saw Blue Oyster Cult live a few times and they had these. Really good guitar sounds too.
no cleans!!! cheers, kyle!!!
The 120 version in a celestion vintage 30 cab is no joke.